Swimming With Sharks
by SamFels on Jan 31, 2009 4:30 PM CST
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Swimming with Sharks was one of the more unsettling pictures I've ever seen. It was a small film, most of you probably haven't seen it. It starred Kevin Spacey as a movie studio Exec, and Frank Whaley was the assistant that Spacey abused and yelled at for the entirety of the film (it also had Michelle Forbes, one of lower level actresses who never attained the fame her hotness deserved). Whenever Whaley screwed up, Spacey would yell, "Shut up, listen, learn!" I kind of feel like that's what the Sharks will be doing to us tonigh...
Matt pretty much summed it up, the last time the Men of Four Feathers took the ice, to was craptacular. Or at least the first 30 minutes were. When the Hawks finally came to life, they dominated the Kings, and only a silly Havlat turnover cost them tying the game. We'll give Havlat a pass, he has been the best Hawks player for close to two months now.
The Hawks got back into it Thursday by just outworking the Kings I thought Toews and the 4th line in particular were hellions along the boards. They'll have to do 60 minutes of that tonight to even stand a chance, in a building where the Sharks have lost all of once in regulation. No tricky passes, no clever plays, just simple road hockey, where you want it more than the other guy. That would seem to be the only way to beat a team that's bigger, faster, and probably more skilled than you.
You know the drill with the Sharks. They're everything. The Hawks have tried two different ways to beat the Sharks, and only came up with a point from them. The first time the Hawks tried the run-n-gun route, and lost 6-5. They played a tight defensive game the night before Thanksgiving, and lost in overtime 3-2. The Flames became the first team to win at The Tank by doing the latter, so perhaps that's the way to go.
The lines have been a jumble that past two games. We mentioned the changes, and Q has gone back and forth with them, sometimes having Sharp with Toews and Ladd, and sometimes putting him with Daydream Nation (we're gonna try that nickname for Kane and Toews together. Let us know if it works for you) We've seen the Bolland-Ladd-Havlat combo and we haven't. I think Q is going to go with the two combos that work best, which is Sharp and Daydream Nation and 36-16-24.
VERSTEEG! probably won't be back tonight, so our 3rd line will once again be Brouwer skating his ass off but showing nothing for it, because Adams is too short figuratively and literally, and Buff will be wasting more of our precious oxygen. The Hawks will probably need another big effort from the 4th unit to compensate.
Look, the Sharks are better than we are, but the Hawks best effort will give them every chance, and 2 out of 3 in California will always be taken. Even a point would be acceptable for the West Coast swing. Do it.
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Daydream Nation
Oh, I like it.
Teenage riot in a public station gonna fight and tear it up it’s a hyper nation!
"Yeah, you can write, you can feel, you can think. Whaddaya want, a medal?" - Paul Westerberg
by Edbird on Jan 31, 2009 4:55 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Had to look up which band did that album
I’ve heard of Sonic Youth. Never heard their music, as far as I know.
"Carlos Quentin? Where's Hamilton?"
"I ate him."
by HappyHuman on Jan 31, 2009 8:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You should change that… If it’s good enough for the Library of Congress it’s good enough to listen to at least once
by Matthew Dirt on Jan 31, 2009 9:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hawks site says VERSTEEG! will be playing tonight
He’ll be on a line with Kaner and Buff.
"Carlos Quentin? Where's Hamilton?"
"I ate him."
by HappyHuman on Jan 31, 2009 8:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
VERSTEEG! at center? This could be interesting
by Matthew Dirt on Jan 31, 2009 9:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
TOEWS!
Great way to start a game.. good job from Campbell to wait for that play to develop
by Matthew Dirt on Jan 31, 2009 9:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
So much for Nabokov's shutout streak!
"Carlos Quentin? Where's Hamilton?"
"I ate him."
by HappyHuman on Jan 31, 2009 9:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sharks fans booing Campbell
Why do the fans boo a guy who only played for them ONE year? If he’d been with them his entire career and then left, I could understand it, but this is just silly.
"Carlos Quentin? Where's Hamilton?"
"I ate him."
by HappyHuman on Jan 31, 2009 9:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Attaboy Bolland
"Carlos Quentin? Where's Hamilton?"
"I ate him."
by HappyHuman on Jan 31, 2009 9:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
this is taking forever
way to kill the momentum refs…
by Matthew Dirt on Jan 31, 2009 9:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand why they took away the goal
But I don’t like it. And they got the wrong guy for the penalty.
"Carlos Quentin? Where's Hamilton?"
"I ate him."
by HappyHuman on Jan 31, 2009 10:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How can they take the goal away?
Wtf crazy rule is that.
White Sox '09 Slogan: Maybe we can?
by vince_ on Jan 31, 2009 10:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
speechless
don’t even know what to say about that. Kills all that great start momentum.
by eternale1 on Jan 31, 2009 10:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Let's go Hawks
Get that goal back!
"Carlos Quentin? Where's Hamilton?"
"I ate him."
by HappyHuman on Jan 31, 2009 10:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
That rule is stupid
If that’s how it works, it amounts to a what, 2-3 minute delayed penalty situation? Except its worse since the penalized team doesn’t even KNOW that anything it does during that time is for naught.
They should either allow the linesman to call penalties right away or not allow them to call penalties at all. The way it works right now gives a double-bonus to the team that was the victim just because the refs missed something.
White Sox '09 Slogan: Maybe we can?
by vince_ on Jan 31, 2009 10:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Found the rule..
78.5 Disallowed Goals – Apparent goals shall be disallowed by the
Referee and the appropriate announcement made by the Public
Address Announcer for the following reasons:
(viii) When a Linesman reports a double-minor penalty for high-sticking, a
major penalty or a match penalty to the Referee following the scoring
of a goal by the offending team, the goal must be disallowed and the
appropriate penalty assessed.
by Matthew Dirt on Jan 31, 2009 10:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
thanks
was wondering about that. What a fucking terrible rule, for the reasons vince said.
It’s ridiculous to play for 3+ minutes following a penalty when neither team knows it’s coming. Why waste 3 minutes of everyone’s time? Just let the linesman call it, or let the time played after the penalty count.
What a horrible turn of events to go from 2-0 to 1-1 with a double-minor.
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by mjthor on Jan 31, 2009 10:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Did they add time back onto the clock? I didn’t notice..
by Matthew Dirt on Jan 31, 2009 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that's what Pat Foley said
I’m probably wrong. I didn’t notice the clock when the goal was scored.
by mjthor on Jan 31, 2009 10:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
the thing that burns me is what would happen if San Jose scored
they’d get a goal and a 4 minute power play. that is an incredibly dumb rule
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Jan 31, 2009 10:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, I never even thought of that.
Are you sure? Are there any other provisions to the rule?
by mjthor on Jan 31, 2009 10:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I'm almost 100% positive
only thing in the rule book mentioned the attacking team scoring
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by El Duque's Raft on Jan 31, 2009 11:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So...
If it had been hooking or interference or any other minor penalty, the Hawks would’ve been able to keep their goal. It just happened to be a high-sticking double-minor, so the Hawks got screwed. That stinks.
"Carlos Quentin? Where's Hamilton?"
"I ate him."
by HappyHuman on Jan 31, 2009 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Bettman Sucks
My wife says I say that every game.
While I don’t necessarily disagree with the Linesman calling that, or the call itself, there should be discretion.
Kane raised his stick because the Shark Stick was face high coming at him. It should have been crosschecking on the Shark. The elbow follow through pushed Kane into the other Shark. And, if you can’t call the right guy, it shouldn’t be a penalty.
I called the time thing before Foley/Olcyk did.
Did I mention I hate Bettman?
by Gbubbs on Jan 31, 2009 10:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The fact that they called the penalty on the wrong guy is fucking embarrassing.
If you’re going to reverse a goal and give a double-minor based on a video replay, at least make the right call.
I hope the Chicago sports media makes a big deal about this, or someone sends the NHL a link to SCH.
by mjthor on Jan 31, 2009 10:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I also thought that it was kind of unfair to penalize a guy when the offending action was caused by the victim’s teammate.
"Carlos Quentin? Where's Hamilton?"
"I ate him."
by HappyHuman on Jan 31, 2009 10:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Another reason why that rule is dumb
Imagine it were late in the 3rd period and the Hawks were down. If they knew a penalty would be called (which they would if a ref saw it), they’d be better off icing the puck or freezing it rather than eating a lot of time. But it puts you in an impossible situation the way it is right now.
Either the goal should stand or the time should go back on the clock, but to take both away is patently unfair given that it was the refs’ mistake.
White Sox '09 Slogan: Maybe we can?
by vince_ on Jan 31, 2009 10:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You are correct sir
Great point. Changes the way the game is played.
But as my old man says, “Bettman, it’s NBA, Marketing all the way.”
Can’t have blood.
by Gbubbs on Feb 1, 2009 12:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Good to see a little fire from the Hawks.. but the last thing Keith needs is to get into a fight
by Matthew Dirt on Jan 31, 2009 10:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Do the refs EVER catch the original offense?
"Carlos Quentin? Where's Hamilton?"
"I ate him."
by HappyHuman on Jan 31, 2009 10:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
VERSTEEG!
White Sox '09 Slogan: Maybe we can?
by vince_ on Jan 31, 2009 10:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
YES!
A shortie by VERSTEEG!
Good effort by Bolland to get the play going.
"Carlos Quentin? Where's Hamilton?"
"I ate him."
by HappyHuman on Jan 31, 2009 10:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
YES!
That’s now three goals in a row with a shortie… glad to see the Hawks on the good side of that one though
by Matthew Dirt on Jan 31, 2009 10:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
hell of an effort by bolland on the shortie
Lets Go Hawks!
by CubsBall2202 on Jan 31, 2009 10:53 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hawks really bringing it this period
Nice to see.
White Sox '09 Slogan: Maybe we can?
by vince_ on Jan 31, 2009 10:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Lots of heart and hustle
They better keep it up in the third.
"Carlos Quentin? Where's Hamilton?"
"I ate him."
by HappyHuman on Jan 31, 2009 10:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Tazer again!
"Carlos Quentin? Where's Hamilton?"
"I ate him."
by HappyHuman on Jan 31, 2009 11:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great effort on the power play.. Sharks barely touched the puck.. that’s becoming his signature goal this season.. I really want him to get the hat trick
by Matthew Dirt on Jan 31, 2009 11:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wow thats a great shot
Really takin it to them this period
Lets Go Hawks!
by CubsBall2202 on Jan 31, 2009 11:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great period
White Sox '09 Slogan: Maybe we can?
by vince_ on Jan 31, 2009 11:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sharks are going to throw everything at them this period,
we’ll see how they respond to it
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Jan 31, 2009 11:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah.. it should be a great period.. and hopefully we get a good ending out of a weird game
by Matthew Dirt on Jan 31, 2009 11:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's go Hawks
Don’t relax now. Keep the pressure on!
"Carlos Quentin? Where's Hamilton?"
"I ate him."
by HappyHuman on Jan 31, 2009 11:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Dunc!
Woohoo!
"Carlos Quentin? Where's Hamilton?"
"I ate him."
by HappyHuman on Jan 31, 2009 11:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Oy...
Come on Hawks, you can’t give away goals like that!
"Carlos Quentin? Where's Hamilton?"
"I ate him."
by HappyHuman on Jan 31, 2009 11:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hawks win! Hawks win!
"Carlos Quentin? Where's Hamilton?"
"I ate him."
by HappyHuman on Feb 1, 2009 12:00 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Woot!
White Sox '09 Slogan: Maybe we can?
by vince_ on Feb 1, 2009 12:00 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wait a minute
Aren’t the Hawks only the second team to beat San Jose at home in regulation this year? That’s sweet.
"Carlos Quentin? Where's Hamilton?"
"I ate him."
by HappyHuman on Feb 1, 2009 12:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Vancouver was in preseason
Does that count? :-)
"Carlos Quentin? Where's Hamilton?"
"I ate him."
by HappyHuman on Feb 1, 2009 12:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No..
I say the Hawks are the second team to beat them in regulation.. Pre-season is meaningless
by Matthew Dirt on Feb 1, 2009 12:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great win
Nice to have Keith and VERSTEEG! back. Good game for Khabby – 32 saves.
"Yeah, you can write, you can feel, you can think. Whaddaya want, a medal?" - Paul Westerberg
by Edbird on Feb 1, 2009 12:32 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great game all around
Nice to see them bring a full 60 mins tonight. Now hopefully Quenville can actually ride the hot goalie in Khabi after another solid performance
Lets Go Hawks!
by CubsBall2202 on Feb 1, 2009 12:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Bolland
Is it to early to spend money on a Bolland Jersey. Reminds me of Kasper. Guys like that stick around, right?
by Gbubbs on Feb 1, 2009 12:47 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
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