Tear Down This Wall: Oilers @ Blackhawks Preview and GDT
by Killion on Oct 14, 2009 12:49 PM CDT
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Tonight's match up is going to be all about goalies. If you're sick of the arguments going back and forth on who should be the #1 or whether the Hawks did the right thing by letting Nikolai Khabibulin walk... well then I suggest you scroll down a little bit more til we get to some other stats. For right now though, lets talk some more about goalies.
First up, there's this contradictory story from the Trib today. Right off the headline, we get something odd - "Former Chicago Blackhawks goalie off to good start". Good start? Obviously they didn't see this:
Now, Chris Kuc wrote the article but we have to wonder why he let some editor put that headline on it. Especially since he points out the Khabby's numbers are pretty damn awful so far this year. Khabby's coming in with a 3.13 GAA and .890 SV%. Those aren't quite as horrible as Huet's 3.69 GAA and .831 SV% but neither goalie is in the top 30 for either stat.
Odd then that both teams are off to pretty hot starts. With identical 3-1-1 records, they also have 15 goals against while the Oilers have scored one more goal than the Hawks (20 compared to 19). However, as Fifth Feather pointed out today - the Hawks are also killing it in faceoffs, winning 56.4% of the draws which is good enough for 3rd overall. Then McClure pointed out the Hawks are 2nd in Shots For/Game and 1st overall in Shots Against/Game. Any goalie should be able to win with this team - as long as someone (aka Barker) doesn't cough up the puck and give opposing forwards a clear shot 8 feet out.
Here I had originally written a bunch of shit about why we should not worry about Huet starting tonight and looked at his split stats against the Oilers (summary - small sample size, but they're really good). Then Kuc broke the news that Niemi is starting tonight. So thanks for that..
This is hardly going to be a cakewalk for Niemi. The Oilers just put up 6 against the Predators on Monday night and drove Pekka Rinne from the game. They're also 3rd overall in goals per game at 3.8. They don't shoot a lot though so if the Hawks can play the tight defensive game we've seen then Niemi stands a good shot at getting another win and this insanely annoying debate continuing. If the Hawks play the sloppy defensive game we've also seen, then Niemi is fucked. So good luck Antti... Go nuts in the comments
Lets Go Hawks
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Should be a gooden
Hopefully the sloppiness from Monday isn’t apparent for the first 10+ minutes of this game. If so, does Antti get pulled after 3 goals because the defense makes ridiculous turnovers (I’m looking at you Cam) and gets caught out of position at times?
jt
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2009 12:57 PM CDT reply actions
It's only a debate for some
Even a distorted sense of reality can’t change the fact the Huet has a contract, the Hawks have a cap, and the people that the followers of this blog would be okay to see let go in a trade, (Barker and Brouwer) are simply not playing well consistently enough to make anyone also take Huet as a package deal. What Khabbi does this year is irrelevant. He got his retirement package from the Oilers and I say better them than us.
I'd beg to differ on Brouwer
He’s been playing quite well in the early going this year. It’s not reflected on the stat sheet, but he’s made himself a presence.
www.secondcityhockey.com
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame.
No begging required
Brouwer HAS played much better and more consistently that Barker, but I stand by my main point which is that his play has not been impressive enough to make him a centerpiece in a fantasy trade that brings an alleged top tier goalie here. Just to entertain fantasy for a second that we could actually make some kind of trade that sends Huet’s cap hit away, I can’t see any team giving up a goalie for Brouwer when there is a VERSTEEG! in between Brouwer and the top talent that is considered untouchable.
I can dig it...
…but we don’t have the cap room for so much as a flaming bag of poo…It’s Huet’s job to lose (again), or we go with the kid…but either way, we’re all in…
Read some of my posts...
…you’ll see there are ways in which we can make room in order to improve our goaltending.
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
Nice Preview
I’m gearing up for a track meet. First team to seven wins, or something like that.
BTW- is there any team in the league that the Hawks owned more decisively than the Oilers last year?
I’m going off memory on this, so correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t we only lose one regular season game in Canada last year.
by warrenjm2006 on Oct 14, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
how about tony-o in net?
he looked pretty limber the other night.
by SLoop on Oct 14, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
While we're at it
Burish is out…So, who’s calling Proby?
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
Savvy was the only one who could even skate anymore when they came out on saturday. I was afraid someone was gonna fall and break a hip.
Stan
looked pretty nimble. It was Jet that looked like someone pushed him down a ramp onto the ice.
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
Evidently the sciatica in his legs really prevented him from skating well and completely prevented him from stopping.. that’s why Toews and Mikita had to basically catch him.
I remembered reading that
after I posted. That apparently was the first time he’s laced ‘em up since the ’91 all-star game?
Well, I guess that’s what I’ll look like now as I enter hell…skating with sciatica, and alzheimers.
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
I'm just praying for a win in regulation.
Preds have one of the worst offenses in the league right now, and from what some of my Oilers fan-friends are saying, Pat Quinn has been spreading around the scoring — each line has a legitimate threat (Sam Gagner has been centering the fourth line), so that’s something to worry about. Should be a good one.
Smart move by Q
Starting Niemi makes all the sense in the world for he really is the more confident of the 2 netminders and is a more logical choice to start in net due to the reasons of having the rookie netminder start at home and have the veteran start on the road, especially in these back-to-back situations.
Another plus is that TSN is televising this game and I didn’t want to hear McGuire rag on Huet all night long with the same rhetorical analysis. Tonight Pierre can have his Love-In with Niemi and consistantly question whether or not there is a goaltending controversy.
The Oilers are red-hot offensively after notching 6 against the Predators Monday night chasing Rinne from the game and have scored 3 or more goals in every game so far this season and are playing the up-tempo game that Quinn desires. Led by Ales Hemsky the Oilers do pace a vaunted attack but are hampered somewhat on the PP without the services of one Sheldon Souray due to a hit deemed by Quinn as “dirt” that was caused by the “vigilante” Iginla. Khabibulin was very good the other night against Montreal however has not won over the Edmonton faithful after his early season failures against the Flames highlighted (or lowlighted) by the video above.
Thing to look out for is the face-off battle. This is the place where the Hawks can dominate all night because Edmonton, for the most part, is not a very good face-off team with only Horcoff being the only true centremam on that team. Watch for Horcoff to take most, if not all in the 3rd, face-offs in the Oilers end for really he is all they have.
Should be a good one let’s make 4-1-1 and take back first place in the Central (or is it too early to talk like that?)
LET’S GO HAWKS!!!
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
?When?
then, is the right time to gently re-enter Huet’s troubled confidence back to the game? I was pretty sure, given his record against the Oil and the fact that most of us can agree he was once again left hung out to dry Monday night, that Q was going to start him tonight after righteously reaming out the D and their sad, pathetic start in that last debacle. A 9th round SO victory surely helped somewhat. In his career against Edmonton, Huet is 2-1-0 against with a 1.68 GAA. Have we simply accepted that we will throw someone to the greasy dogs tonight and protecting our expensive #1 and his ego?
I agree Edmonton is playing like a firing squad right now. Tonight, however, represents a bit fuck of a lot more of a challenge for a team that has opened this year by playing Calgary, Montreal, Nashville, and Dallas.
I’ll throw my vote-of-confidence for tonight’s game into Huet’s corner. If we come out flying… and we sure as hell better, and Niemi gets the W, we are destined to drag this quagmire of goaltending controversy on for just that much longer. With the D still bleeding from coach Q’s lashing, I would have thought tonight belonged (or not) to Huet.
"Call Detroit, tell dem... BULLSHIT!"
I was concerned by Q’s postgame comments Monday where he did anything but endorse Huet. When asked about the goaltending, I expected him to at least mildly stick by Huet and place more blame on the D for hanging him out to dry. Didn’t happen and all he did was acknowledge that they have goalie problems. Couple that with Niemi starting tonight and maybe’s something’s up. Although it could just be as others have said, to have the veteran play the road game and the rookie get the more favorable home game. Maybe Huet will play better tomorrow in Nashville where he won’t get booed?
My goal? World domination.
by stickhandler on Oct 14, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Obviously there will be applauding
for Khabby before the game and such. But after the puck drops, do we launch into the sarcastic “Khaaaaaaaaaby, Khaaaaaaaaaaaby!” or “Buuuuuuuulin, Buuuuuuuuulin!” ??? I mean, I’m not really in that camp, as I group those people with the “shooooooooot!” people, but his name is great for that type of jeer.
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
Not quite sure where all the Khabibulin love comes from
Nik was a complete suckfest his first three years here, and last year was a contract year, which he normally makes it a priority to perform well in (Anyone remember his tenure with the Long Beach Ice Dogs because he felt Phoenix wasn’t paying him enough?). And other than a couple flourishes last spring, Khabibulin was ordinary in the post season.
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It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame.
this is what pisses me off most
about all the false nostalgia we see from ‘Hawks fans when they gripe about Huet — yeah, he’s not doing so well, but people forget so easily how BAD Khabby could be. There used to be beach ball and swiss cheese goalie manips of Khabby floating around the O-boards, for chrissakes.
No one wants to raise his jersey to the rafters
by any means. Nor should he receive a standing ovation. But I think a respectful applause when his name is announced in the lineup isn’t out of order.
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
I lived in Long Beach when he played there.
He didn’t do so well. But, man, he had/has that tantalizing ability to dazzle for some stretches. I was still a fan. He’s a weird dude, I bet. Tim Sassone always mentioned that Nik was very competitive, but personally I wouldn’t think that. Ha, also got the chance that season to witness Patrik Stefan’s ordinary-ness.
Questionable leadership decision
Q is throwing Huet under the bus due to poor play on the part of the defense. Not exactly a move to inspire the team. Niemi’s two goals against were even softer.
I see your point
But good goalies are able to bail out their team every now and then. I’m not ready to run huet out of town yet but I’d like him to be able to help steal a win at some point. Huet is obviously better than he’s been so far this season. He was good for stretches last year so let’s hope he gets his act together so we don’t have to make a trade.
They brought their fuckin' TOYS with 'em!
by ZootSuitZombie on Oct 14, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Or this had been planned to give Huet a night off
I wouldn’t put too much into it. The players knows who was at fault in the goals on Monday.
Chicagoan in the Lou.
LETS GO HAWKS!
So, do I wear my Khabby jersey tonight, with his name crossed out and Huet’s written in?
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
by Trixietrx on Oct 14, 2009 6:11 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
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Go Hawks!
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
Feel a lot better with Niemi in net tonight
What most people have failed to realize so far is that this team plays a lot more confidently with Niemi in net than Huet
Lets Go Hawks!
by CubsBall2202 on Oct 14, 2009 6:53 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
You say "confidently"
I say panicy about letting the puck into the defensive zone.
Chicagoan in the Lou.
I dont get why you are such a Huet fan
The fact of the matter is this team has played better when Niemi has been in net.
yeah, point blank shot.
Routine save right? If Huet lets that in you blame Sopel, but Neimi lets it in and you blame him. Looks like you’re more of a Huet fan then a Hawks fan.
And there is such a large sample size
its of no use arguing this fact.
Got more soul than a sock with a hole.
I agree with the fact its too early to make a decision on a definitive number 1.
But why not play Neimi when the team has played better with him in net? Mr. Martin just doesn’t make much sense.
Playing better?
really? I’m missing something yet again.
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
Question:
Do you guys think that Q had any confidence in Huet in the first place? I mean, this is a player who lost the starting job last year to a guy that isn’t even with us anymore, who the organization was ready to send back to Russia. If he couldn’t step up to win the job last year, given that he had every opportunity, how much faith can Q really have in him?
I’m not saying we should run Huet out of town, and I think Q will still give him several chances to be the #1, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Niemi wins the job at some point in the season…plus, if it happens, it will happen sooner as opposed to later.
GO HAWKS
Ok let’s not start the game down 5-0
Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Oct 14, 2009 7:27 PM CDT reply actions
pat says...
he aint finnish hes just starting!
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by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 7:40 PM CDT reply actions
GOAL!
Patrick Sharp! 1-0 Hawks
Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Oct 14, 2009 7:42 PM CDT reply actions
Sharp!!!
That was easy! Start to agree with Admiral we’re going to FUCK these guys up!
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
jack out for blood!
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by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
KA-CHOW!
tazer with the back hand pass!
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by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 7:42 PM CDT reply actions
Wow great assists
Hammer, Ladd, and Toews all made great plays.
Proudly flying the Blackhawk banner in the City of Detroit
DOH!
Don't assault me and I won't assault you, because you don't know what I will, or won't, do. I'm going to end it with that. - Milton Bradley 2003 to Paul Lo Duca
by SouthsideCUBSfan on Oct 14, 2009 7:46 PM CDT reply actions
Or maybe horrible D?
I guess you have to find some way to bash Niemi.
I’m sure Huet makes that save….
Lets go Hawks! Detroit Sucks!
Sure I can
As Hawks61 says, we need a goalie who will stop ones he shouldn’t sometimes.
Chicagoan in the Lou.
Where in my post tonight did I suggest that?
Just said that Niemi looked a little more confident that’s all, but Huet is still the #1. I’ll take blame when it lies at my feet, but I won’t stand to be blame over something I didn’t say.
If you don’t like that I think Huet isn’t a Cup material goaltender that’s O.K., but don’t put words into my mouth. Enough said!
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
Back in the Red Wings or Avs thread
When we pointed out how the goals would have been tough for almost any goalie, and your reply (along with a few others) was along the lines of we need him to stop the ones he shouldn’t.
I’d give you a quote, but I’m too lazy to go look for it.
Chicagoan in the Lou.
"Sometimes"
Huet has consistently let in goals that he could have saved. Granted they arent all his fault, but all we are saying is it seems like when we’ve needed a big save, most of the time Huet can not be relied on. Neimi saved the shot on the breakaway last game which would have made it 6-1 and more then likely completely deflated the Hawks. That big save just added to our momentum last game, and I really do believe is one of the reasons we won.
And you can honestly blame more than half of Huet's on him?
There is one constant here: the Hawks are playing shitty defense in front of their goalies.
sopel needs training wheels!
...i was nominated for the nobel prize for science b/c i have good chemistry w/my neighbors!
by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 7:47 PM CDT reply actions
C'MON!
...i was nominated for the nobel prize for science b/c i have good chemistry w/my neighbors!
by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 7:53 PM CDT reply actions
Dear God
Why isn’t anyone streaming CSN’s feed tonight?
Pierre McGuire makes me want to punch things.
Chicagoan in the Lou.
Why?
Because he doesn’t like Huet? By the way, he has said nothing about Huet tonight. Think he’s been pretty good so far and actually accurate which is breath of fresh air. A nice change for him, hope he keeps it up. This coming from a major non-McGuire fan.
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
are we gonna have to seperate you two?
...i was nominated for the nobel prize for science b/c i have good chemistry w/my neighbors!
by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
im bring sexyback!
...i was nominated for the nobel prize for science b/c i have good chemistry w/my neighbors!
by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
did you see the hottie he was w/@the bulls game last nite?
…mos def!
...i was nominated for the nobel prize for science b/c i have good chemistry w/my neighbors!
by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions
MY MAN JACK!
...i was nominated for the nobel prize for science b/c i have good chemistry w/my neighbors!
by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 8:03 PM CDT reply actions
and the helper
...i was nominated for the nobel prize for science b/c i have good chemistry w/my neighbors!
by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's not send him back to Rockford, Mkay?
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
hes rackin up mad grayhound miles
...i was nominated for the nobel prize for science b/c i have good chemistry w/my neighbors!
by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I get the cap thing
But he’s gotta make the roadie after, you know, being helpful like that. Just the decent thing to do, really.
WAIT FOR THE WHISTLE!
by Sec 326 Bureau Chief on Oct 14, 2009 8:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Lots of them have
Hammer, Sharpie…
They may be winning, but I don’t see the quality they can show.
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
Dumb question
Why do you guys call the 4th line the checking line?
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
checking line
is slang for a line that specializes in defense
"I hate to sound like a broken record, but I guess it's better than sounding like a broken mp3 player because then you would'nt hear anything." - Len Kasper
It's usually where you put your grinders/best checkers. Hence the checking line.
Lets go Hawks! Detroit Sucks!
Because the 4th line is usually made up of guys who don't score much...
but are usually tougher and bring a more physical game, a la Burish and Eager.
by DetroitSucks! on Oct 14, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
The checking line really isn't the fourth line
My understanding is that a team’s “checking line” goes out there to shut down the opposing teams’ top forwards. This doesn’t really apply to the fourth line. The fourth line (as is mentioned above) is more appropriately called an energy line. Skate hard, hit, grind, dump and chase, get pucks to the net, these qualities can be similar to a checking line, but the matchup with the opposing teams’ top scoring line is really the key.
Take last year for example. The hawks checking line was havlat, bolland, and ladd. They were routinely sent out against top scoring lines, whereas burish, eager, and fraser went out as the energy line. It is somewhat rare for checking lines to be as proficient offensively as ours was last year, but that is certainly the icing on the cake so to speak. This year, we really haven’t clearly defined a checking line. Whenever madden is out there, he probably heads up the checking line as is. Once Hossa (and to some extent Eager) get back, you’ll see Q form a real checking line to be headed up by Madden. Oh and, the checing line will usually get a significantly larger amount of ice time than a fourth line, especially in the playoffs.
"If you're scared, go buy a dog" - Stacey King
not pretty but effective!
...i was nominated for the nobel prize for science b/c i have good chemistry w/my neighbors!
by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 8:14 PM CDT reply actions
ouch
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by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
pardon?
...i was nominated for the nobel prize for science b/c i have good chemistry w/my neighbors!
by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
flipped over to nhl network...
tuomo 2 assists and +2 tonite.
...i was nominated for the nobel prize for science b/c i have good chemistry w/my neighbors!
by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 8:18 PM CDT reply actions
Never like to guarantee anything but...
…I think the Hawks will be seeing Ellis in goal for the Predators tomorrow night. Renne just go pumped for 4 GA against the Stars tonight in the first period on a whopping 8 shots.
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
Actually, Ellis got pulled.
Ellis let in 3 goals on 3 shots. Rinne came in and has 4 saves on 5 shots so I think we’ll be seeing Rinne tomorrow.
espn says one thing and yahoo an other...
…i just checked
...i was nominated for the nobel prize for science b/c i have good chemistry w/my neighbors!
by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
TSN interviewed Q before the game...
…said that Huet is still the #1 goaltender but must be significantly better and that the position is being evaluated continuously, but that he is more concerned with the starts of games.
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
there' sthose friggin' ads behind the goals again...
…price of getting home games televised.
...i was nominated for the nobel prize for science b/c i have good chemistry w/my neighbors!
by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 8:35 PM CDT reply actions
KLINK!
...i was nominated for the nobel prize for science b/c i have good chemistry w/my neighbors!
by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 8:36 PM CDT reply actions
Just thought I’d use his name and see if it might start another 10 minute thread (lol).
"Call Detroit, tell dem... BULLSHIT!"
i heard niemi voted for daley!
...i was nominated for the nobel prize for science b/c i have good chemistry w/my neighbors!
by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
how many, mickey?
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by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Four
1 to screw in the lightbulb, 3 to stand around smoking cigarettes talking about how great the last lightbulb was.
Chicagoan in the Lou.
can i be so bold...
…nice stop by our auntie!
...i was nominated for the nobel prize for science b/c i have good chemistry w/my neighbors!
by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 8:43 PM CDT reply actions
is it possible to french-canadian and...
a leprechaun?
...i was nominated for the nobel prize for science b/c i have good chemistry w/my neighbors!
by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Easy big fella
What out for those Canadian comments….just joking, carry on!
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
all day and he still shot it into malcolm ten's parking lot!
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by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
He was looking for the tip at the side of the net...
…which Versteeg missed. It was a good play on his behalf.
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
SUPER!
...i was nominated for the nobel prize for science b/c i have good chemistry w/my neighbors!
by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 8:59 PM CDT reply actions
right idea...wrong result
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by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 9:00 PM CDT reply actions
If we can keep putting up shots like this...
It’s gonna be damn hard to beat us. As long as we can get decent goaltending, opposing goalies are gonna have to stand on their heads just to keep their teams in the game if we keep outshooting teams the way we have so far.
Bulin has played well...
…and he did do that in Chicago in these types of games but couldn’t deliver when it ws the Hawks who outshot their opponents…kind of the same problem we have right now.
That rebound by Niemi when the Oliers player shot the puck from behind the net and kicked it out to the slot definitely had me shouting WTF? It was really that bad, and good on McGuire in spotting that. If only he could be that judiciuos when Huet plays, or for that matter Price which begs the question…is he blinded by Habitant love?
Khabibulin did have some spectacular games with one coming to mind when the Wings outshot the Hawks something like 54 to 14 and the Hawks won 5-3 on the strength of 3 SH goals.
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
4 assists for Campbell in the last two games
Great to see. Bad for my fantasy team. :(
Chicagoan in the Lou.
i got 2 shutouts outta the same game the other night!
...i was nominated for the nobel prize for science b/c i have good chemistry w/my neighbors!
by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Man, I was PISSED that Nabby got a SO after that
It makes sense since he didn’t allow a real goal, but if you lose the game you should lose the SO.
Chicagoan in the Lou.
initially he didnt get it...
…when i checked my roster in the am it was changed.
...i was nominated for the nobel prize for science b/c i have good chemistry w/my neighbors!
by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Can we call 1st goal in the 3rd?
Or something, I’m kinda bored
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
i need sharp for spg!
...i was nominated for the nobel prize for science b/c i have good chemistry w/my neighbors!
by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
defense has been going ballistic
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by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
Well, it’s like taking a long shot bet. Unlikely, but if it hits I win! :)
Chicagoan in the Lou.
"sopel trailing way back on the play...he shoots, he scores!"
...i was nominated for the nobel prize for science b/c i have good chemistry w/my neighbors!
by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
P.S.
NSH 0:5 DAL in 2nd.
That might be one pissed-off crew tomorrow night.
WAIT FOR THE WHISTLE!
by Sec 326 Bureau Chief on Oct 14, 2009 9:25 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
agreed
they could be trouble… but then again, they suck… so lets hope the Hawks put up double digits on them
Quick Question
Is Kopecky really pronounced Kopeski? Or is Foley crazy?
Proudly flying the Blackhawk banner in the City of Detroit
yes and yes!
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by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
not smart!
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by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 9:29 PM CDT reply actions
nice play by both guys there!
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by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 9:33 PM CDT reply actions
How often does he actually play like that though?
Find that answer, and you’ll see why we let him go.
Chicagoan in the Lou.
Watch the video above
And there would lie your answer on why the Hawks let him go.
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
by the versteeginator!
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by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
4 minutes of penalty killing?
That’s a paddling.
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by Sec 326 Bureau Chief on Oct 14, 2009 9:34 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
thats a goal
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by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 9:37 PM CDT reply actions
Why would they have called it no goal?
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
HUGE!
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by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Now I am not trying to start an argument
but can be blame that last goal on just an unfortunate bounce?
Lets go Hawks! Detroit Sucks!
I was seeing if you were ignorant enough to put that on Niemi's shoulders.
Lets go Hawks! Detroit Sucks!
IT'S A TARP!!!!!
Really, he shouldn’t have left room between him and the post with an attacker swinging around from behind the net.
Chicagoan in the Lou.
Obviously...
You do right? That was a tremendous save….take notes Huet.
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
all these close games are giving me IBS!
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by EdisonParkVinnie on Oct 14, 2009 9:40 PM CDT reply actions
Sopel almost had a goal there
Kinda glad he didn’t, I don’t think my mind could handle it.
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
Well, he's had a lot of time to rest
;)
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
What's Buff saying to Khabby?
Talking shit, or “hey man, how was your summer vacation?”
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
I love watching guys try to move Buff out of the way.
The guy must be made of cement or something. He sure is a big boy.
then he rotated down
and aided in the goal!
"The Hawks need a lube job on their offense right now."-Pat Foley
BARKER!!!!!!!!!!
Right after I was wondering why he was out there.
"Call Detroit, tell dem... BULLSHIT!"
WTF
Why was Sopel out there?
And I love Madden. Really.
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
great shot blocking by madden. Complete garbage goal
by chelseadagger16 on Oct 14, 2009 10:00 PM CDT reply actions
penner on niemi's arm
will someone please explain why penner was allowed to hold niemi’s arm on the ground? is that legal, dont know specific rules too well
man, i'd be all over that
if the team were anywhere BUT Chicago.
by chiblackhawks on Oct 15, 2009 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Very tempting...
…but the backstory is eh.
“Why do you call him the mayor?”
“Well, a guy posted that he wanted him to run for mayor.”
“Oh.”
Still, we may be able to consign boom and telestrator to the dustbin. If we head down this road, should we consider “Da Mayor”? When in Rome…
I’d also like to keep Tinactin in the running.
by cliffkoroll on Oct 15, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
HAWKS WIN
bolland looks hurt though
"The Hawks need a lube job on their offense right now."-Pat Foley
Blocked a shot and he looked pretty gimped.
Let’s just hope it hit somewhere with no padding and he just ends up with a bad bruise. Pray for nothing broken.
by DetroitSucks! on Oct 14, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Just a stinger that's all...
…with that said it fucking hurts taking a shot off the foot for anybody who’s ever played hockey sure knows the feeling. Depending on how severe it is he may be out tomorrow but that would be it.
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
True.
But it didn’t look to me to be that severe, but then again I’ve known to be wrong about these kind of things. He did skate off on his own power so I hoping for the best.
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
Still in Chicago?
Did you go to the game or are you back home in God’s Country?
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
He couldn’t place any weight at all on it, though, none. Looked like more than a stinger to me. Could be, but if it was, then Fab Weap’s tolerance for pain isn’t very high.
I went to the Calgary game on Monday, but can’t make any others, unfortunately, even though I’m here til next week.
Watch the game at a bar? friends? or at your hotel?
Chicago is truly a beautiful city and probably even more so this time of year that’s for sure.
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
It’s a work trip … was working here at my hotel, watching the game online.
(Best city in the world, love it.)
Gotta go now though.
Take it easy
Enjoy the trip! See ya tomorrow.
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
Thank god for the skates
The skates now do a great job of keeping everything together for the most part. Just sucks when the foot starts to swell in the skate.
Speaking of skates did you see the blade holder on Ladd’s skate after the shootout winner vs the AVS? He took a puck to the blade holder earlier in the game and it put a hole in it, he skated the rest of the game in it. Nobody noticed it until the game was over.
It's THE GOAALLLIEEE!!!!!
The main thing
They: 0 pts
We: 2 pts
Take me drunk I’m home.
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by Sec 326 Bureau Chief on Oct 14, 2009 10:06 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I love Niklas Hjalmarsson
How underrated-ly smart was that play where he held the puck between his legs. He drops that puck then the Oil have a prime scoring chance with the puck laying right in front. I’m gonna go have myself a Ham Sandwich
Nice win
But goaltending and defense are a major issue. Having the 2nd most shots in the league combined with allowing the 2nd fewest shots in the league to go along with allowing at least 3 per game is pathetic
Lets Go Hawks!
Actually tonight the total defence was good...
…don’t know what the final shot against total was but the overall effort defensively was superb with even Kane making a fine defensive play in the 2nd. The goaltending was solid, but that’s all the Hawks need. Not spectacular, but solid when need be. Not to mention how many teams in the NHL right now aren’t giving up an average of 3 GA per game? Not many.
Tonight the Hawks achieved their 4th win of the season which took them until Halloween night against Dallas last season. 4-1-1 is an excellent start and, by the way, 1st place in the Central Division.
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
Defense was pretty solid for the first 2.5 periods
Campbell has been much improved this year defensively along with Hammer, Barker and Sopel have been mediocre. Would really like a shutdown effort from the defense-goaltending tandem sometime soon. Nashville would be a good place to start
Lets Go Hawks!
by CubsBall2202 on Oct 14, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
That's the NEW NHL for you...
…the game is being televised on the main network in Canada (TSN) so let’s call a lame one to make it 4-on-4 and then a questionable call to give them a PP so they can make it close is appauling. That play was let go all night but they decide at 1:47 left in the game to call it. Give me a break! All in all we won and that is that.
HAWKS WIN!!! HAWKS WIN!!!
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
Wow
Comcast crew just said the Hawks haven’t scored a home penalty shot goal since Troy Murray in 87. That’s a longass time.
How often does it happen?
But that is a long time…before my Hawks days time.
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
Yeah they don't happen very often....
But you have to figure at least 10-20 penalty shots have been taken at home since then, and to not score on any, that’s pretty bad.
by DetroitSucks! on Oct 14, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually the Hawks hadn't scored one at all...
…until Byfuglien scored against Conklin in the 2nd to last game of the season last year.
Hopefully Toews is the one granted the opportunity next time for he looks pretty automatic when it comes to one-on-one shots. (especially on shootouts)
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
You know
At times Barker makes Campbell look like a defensive God he’s so bad, but man he’s got a hell of a shot.
Barker looked awful out there. That first goal was his defensive lapse covering the late man. He looked like he wasn’t even trying.
by runningquicklynowhere on Oct 14, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Just got back from the game...
Did they show the “One Goal: Trade Huet” sign some asshats hung in 213 or 214 at the start of the third on TV? Pretty fucking ballsy. Security let them keep it up for the first 5 minutes of the period too. I’m sure that has to be great for the guys confidence.
Also heard that while Q said Huet would start in Nashville tomorrow earlier today, that in the post game he said it would be a gametime decision. I honestly would not blame Huet one bit if after seeing that sign he said “fuck this shit, trade me”.
by runningquicklynowhere on Oct 14, 2009 11:55 PM CDT reply actions
I'd prefer he said "Fuck this, I'll show you assholes"
And then come out and play like Marty Brodeur. His trade value due to his stats and cap hit is next to nil right now.
Chicagoan in the Lou.
by Mike Martin on Oct 15, 2009 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I concur
but he has never struck me as the type who has that fight in him.
Still after seeing that banner, and I am by no means on the Huet bandwagon, I kind of want the guy to succeed more now that I did before seeing it.
by runningquicklynowhere on Oct 15, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions
He'll bounce back.
All goalies have bad games, his just happened to be really, really bad. Now if he comes out and lets up 3 goals in the opening period tonight against Nashville, then we have something to worry about.
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