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Let the Huet Hate Start Again: Hawks 3- Stars 4

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Well... that was an odd one.  The Blackhawks came out in the first looking like this would be an easy one.  They didn't get a goal but I don't think we were that worried... they'd come.  

Something changed in the next period and the Hawks were down two... Two insanely bad goals later and the Hawks can't come back... oh and the power play really sucks at the moment

Now.. I could spend the rest of my Saturday night re-capping this game but I don't want to do that and you don't want to read it.  See you in the morning.


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TRADE HUET

Huet is about as consistent as John Goodman’s bowel movements.

by Kid Douche on Oct 17, 2009 10:08 PM CDT reply actions  

It,s not even going to be possible.

So quit asking for a trade. His contract is to big, and guess what, his play sucks…. Would you take him?

by alive again on madison on Oct 17, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't

But I bet a team in Toronto might consider it.

by Let'sGoHawks on Oct 18, 2009 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who?

The Marlies? I’ll take Toskala if you mean the Leafs.

by ohbehave1980 on Oct 18, 2009 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Unlikely

Toskala is in the last year of his deal and the plan is for The Monster to take over. They would be just as excited about riding out the rest of Huet’s contract as we are right now.

by burgstrom on Oct 18, 2009 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

There may be...

…several teams interested in goalies this year. Discussing it last night while watching, due to the compressed schedule this season there may be more injuries than usual, goaltenders in particular.

So which teams out there have injury-prone goalies and are contenders? Maybe somebody desperate enough will offer up a decent proven back-up for Huey, with our D and potent offense a second-tier goalie might be ok.

Discuss!

by Ryan! on Oct 18, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh

It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. - Albert Einstein

by Novy on Oct 17, 2009 10:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Take it easy on huey

The glass in that corner has a helluva shot.

by CaptainPorkchop on Oct 17, 2009 10:16 PM CDT reply actions  

You got that right!

The accuracy it took to slip that puck between the pipe, the left leg pad and the left glove was amazing. That puck couldn’t have been traveling more than 15 mph?
What a pitiful display of goaltending =-(

by ohbehave1980 on Oct 18, 2009 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Goalie 101

Protect the post where the puck is. Get your damn pads over there. If something strange happens, you’re covered.

Bad bounces happen, that why a goalie needs to be diligent for them. Huet was not.

I have no idea how to rescue this guy. Outside of Jose Theodore, he’s the poorest starting goalie I’ve seen on a Stanley Cup contender in years.

Even an average netminder like Toskala would perform better with the Hawks defense in front of him, as he wouldn’t be facing a shooting gallery every night as he does in Toronto.

It’s not as if the Stars had a multitude of scoring chances….it was scary any time the puck was in the Hawks zone

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 18, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well Tretiak

you could also make the argument that it’s his responsibility to stop the puck as it rings around the boards otherwise he risks getting his defensemen destoryed by a forechecker.

I’m loving all these goaltending experts who have decided to grace us with their prescense at the start of this year.

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by El Duque's Raft on Oct 18, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Devil's Advocate time

The two goals tonight were horrendous. And the performance against Calgary — well, you saw it.

Still: there are flashes of competency in every game he plays. Is his best moments better than Niemi’s, or Crawford’s?

What is required is a bit of consistency and full concentration, for sixty minutes. (After that 2nd period, that’s a message for everybody.)

I think that you put him right back in there on Wednesday. He doesn’t need to be told to perform better, but he should be told anyway. If we get more clown-ass goals, then we can talk about What Next.

WAIT FOR THE WHISTLE!

by Sec 326 Bureau Chief on Oct 17, 2009 10:25 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I was saying the same thing before that second goofy ass goal.

It’s a bit harder to make the argument that he looked strong after that second goal, but I made the comment that other than the one awful goal from the boards, he had a good game.

I don’t think anyone needs to tell Huet that those two goals shouldn’t have gone in; he already knows that.

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on Oct 18, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

It is annoying to have the 2nd best goalie on the ice night in and night out...

…but I agree you can’t hang this all on Huey.

Dallas looks improved- they are one of the better 5-on-5 teams in the league so far this year.

A combination of a decent opponent, a less-than-dominating game from the home team, and a couple of guh goals is what it took for us to get a zero. Despite all this and 3 late 3rd period penalties, we had a shot to win this game.

Sixteen different Hawk position players have now scored through eight games (everyone with a skinny stick except for Frasier.) This is mind-boggling. Other than the 2 goals against scum, the Hawks have put up at least 3 every night. Between Baby Huey, Auntie Em, and Crawdaddy, we should continue to expect to win most nights.

Versteeg hasnt registered a shortie yet, but he’s playing like he expects to get one every time he’s out there. I love it.

Deep breath, come back from the ledge, this too shall pass.

by cliffkoroll on Oct 18, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

oops

…Sopel also still looking to find some twine. Still, my point remains.

by cliffkoroll on Oct 18, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

No defense tonight

His two suck ass goals were the difference. The team in front of him played well enough to win against a team that got its balls kicked in the night before. If he would have stopped the dump in, we at least get a point. Huet, Q and the team are in a bad spot now. This town shows no mercy when they are “done” with someone. Fair or not, Huet is now in a hole that no one or two games with stand on his head performances will be enough to quiet people. Booing him and yelling shit from the stands isn’t going to change anything or make the team feel any better for that matter, but it’s what people are going to do until they get bored with it or Huet wins five decently played games.

by NKLHD on Oct 17, 2009 10:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Huet

I almost jumped on the Hate the Frog bandwagon. The third goal was inexcusable. Get out, stand up, make the catch. You can make the argument that Huet should have been on the post for the 4th goal. You could also say he should have been behind the net, on the other side of the crease, or where he was in order to play the shoot-in. The booing on the goal was assinine. Never seen that play, will never see it again.

I think it’s time to worry about Barker (he did have one good play) and let Waite work with Huet. He flashed some good glove tonight.

We win that game 95% of the time. Bad Luck, a bad goal and some crappy officiating. We’ll get that one back. Huet gets another game from me.

The other options ain’t so hot. 1st game this year next Wed. Go Hawks

by Gbubbs on Oct 17, 2009 10:59 PM CDT reply actions  

That clearing shot was much to fast for Huet to leave the net

into the trapezoid to play it. He just needed to keep his pads against the post.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 18, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I sure am glad

I chose to watch killer clowns from outer space instead of this game. I’m trying really hard not to be another cog in the huet hate machine. Judging by everyones comments his performance tonight would have made steam come out of my ears. I refuse to believe he will continue to under perform. Let’s just not boo him for like 2 games. He’s not rex grossman dammit.

They brought their fuckin' TOYS with 'em!

by ZootSuitZombie on Oct 17, 2009 11:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Damn

That would have been a good idea for the bears/hawks mashup commercials. Have huet and grossman putting earplugs in and blinders on before every game.

They brought their fuckin' TOYS with 'em!

by ZootSuitZombie on Oct 17, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dammit!

Where did you find that movie? I’ve been looking for it for about 20 years now.
Well, at least a cheep copy of it.

SHOOOOOOOT IT!!!! Anon

by burpchelischili on Oct 17, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think I saw it on tv like a month ago.

On Svengoolie. It was on at a party I was at.
Completely random.
Completely awesome.

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by Original Six on Oct 18, 2009 4:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Huet was complete and utter garbage tonight

Anyone who thinks that this clown can win the hawks a cup is insane. One Goal: Trade Huet

Lets Go Hawks!

by CubsBall2202 on Oct 18, 2009 2:28 AM CDT reply actions  

Thats what the problem is...

Huet is secretly a Killer Clown from Outer Space. I just thought he was related to Denis Lemieux “My allergies to those fahking fans…Has Returned!”

Victim was found murdered by a Chelsea Dagger.

by pucknut on Oct 18, 2009 7:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was at the game...

And I was very impressed with the stunning play of Alex Auld and Brendan Morrow.

Victim was found murdered by a Chelsea Dagger.

by pucknut on Oct 18, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Alex Auld?

Seen this guy in Ottawa. Give it some time and he might remind you of another goaltender…Ty Conklin. He’s the Brian Savage of goaltenders…hot in October, cold in March and April. How else could you explain how he lost the starting job in Ottawa over Brian Elliot?
Don’t insult Huet with that for he is a much better netminder than Auld.

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Oct 18, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Watched the whole game and Huet was the reason we did not get 2 points

3rd goal would have been stopped by an AHL level goalie, 4th goal was a circus and needs to be stopped. Do you honestly believe this guy can lead the hawks to a cup?

Lets Go Hawks!

by CubsBall2202 on Oct 18, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Huet was the only reason?

The fact our power play looked like a Special Olympics team didn’t come into play?

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Oct 19, 2009 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Good point

Why are we not discussing how to make the PP more effective? It’s been lame, and there really doesn’t seem to be a reason or need for it to be that way.

If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning

by Trixietrx on Oct 19, 2009 1:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's nearly impossible to trade

And with that inflated contract, who would want that? He was given that deal because he had about 15 good end-of-regular season games with the Capitols and a good playoff run 2 years ago.

That’s a pretty small sample size to award such a bad contract, given that the Habs were more than eager to deal him away.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 18, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Been away from the site for awhile

Two nieces, one that is now my goddaughter, have taken up a bit of my time, but I actually got to go and see the game. Very disappointing, especially after the first period. One guy next to me kept yelling shoot, and the other knew just enough to get everything fucking wrong when he talked, screaming for guys to make passes when they didn’t have the puck, and getting hopeful about breakaways while 2 defenders where still between Toews, the blue line, and the goalie. I’ve been trying to defend Huet to my family and anyone else I hear talk shit about him, but it’s getting harder and harder. It was incredibly disheartening to hear boo’s for Huet while being introduced in the lineup, and the sarcastic cheers when he made “saves” afterwards. The calls to trade him are useless, he has as much value as cedric benson did a few years back. If I could remember who posted it, i would quote them, but I can’t so I’ll just repeat it, goalies don’t get traded, they get signed. I had a more precise and thought out plan of what I wanted to say, but the beer at the game, and the vodka, vodka, and vodka following it have made it hard to remember exactly what I wanted to say, and have also added to the time it took to type this up, thankfully there is a nice red squiggly line under words I mess up, so I can at least seem soberish while I type. Final thought before I forget it, it seemed like two different teams played against the stars tonight, at different times the hawks played with the same intensity as the first period, and at other times it was as if they decided they were already going to lose and shouldn’t bother trying to win, any more insight on that or how weak the goals were? I love watching live but sometimes it’s easier to see stuff while watching from home.

wait what?

by pepe126 on Oct 18, 2009 2:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Killer Ass Clown...

You weren’t in the 312 section were you? We had the wonderful experience of sitting in front of some fuckstain wearing a Hawks jersey and cheered for the Stars all night. Yelling Point every time he thought that the pass should go to… well… the point and yelling random Star’s player name as if that’s where the pass should go (swear he just got done playing NHL2010). He didn’t stop yelling for them to pass to modano until halfway through the 2nd when someone told him he was scratched from the game. Every defensive clear he would yell “Icing” until most of the section started yelling “Icing” for every pass.

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by Hawkmares on Oct 18, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good comments

but hard to read. Paragraphs are everybody’s friend.

by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Oct 18, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Congrats

Good to see you back, sorry that was the game you got to see.

I don’t know what to think of this team, except I don’t think they play the full 60 minutes.

Although, I must say, my SPG picks were top for the night, so there’s always a silver lining, right?

If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning

by Trixietrx on Oct 18, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I missed Mastodon and Svengoolie for that game.

At least tell me that Mastodon kicked all form of ass.

Victim was found murdered by a Chelsea Dagger.

by pucknut on Oct 18, 2009 7:26 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Trade talk?

Like the other guy said, who would take him?

Do you think we could just give him back to France?

by noteeth on Oct 18, 2009 7:39 AM CDT reply actions  

He can be moved

It’s a longshot, but Atlanta might be the only option right now. A trade can be strung along on this basis:

To Atlanta
Christobal Huet (Cap hit $5.625 mil)
3rd round pick in 2010

To Chicago
Kari Lehtonen (cap hit $3.00 mil, RFA 2010)

Atlanta’s got about $8 mil in cap space, and they can eat up the salary thrown at them. This deal is mainly a salary dump for Chicago, while Atlanta gets another good deal from an obvious salary dump (see: Pavel Kubina trade). Atlanta is most likely fed up with Lehtonen already, and they’re going to need a #1 goaltender (though their offense is their defense). Chicago gets Lehtonen, who if he plays well enough, can be traded off to a team that needs a cheap goalie, or can have his salary dumped if the Hawks don’t give him the arbitration contract. That gives the Hawks all the $$ to resign Kane, Toews and Keith to contracts, and maybe even keep Madden as well

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Oct 18, 2009 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Some of this makes some solid points but still a few issues.

Yes, Atlanta has $8MM in cap space, but they NEVER spend to the cap. The team doesn’t generate enough money.

Assuming you got Lehtonen out of it, who has looked as terrible as Huet has at points, and then you trade him as mentioned, who is your goalie? Even if you are going to make the argument that you bring up Niemi and Crawford, whoever is the starter is going to argue for a raise at the end of this year, negating the cap savings for the players you mentioned.

The biggest issue is any goalie the Hawks could get in a trade, that probably doesn’t involve moving Huet, is going to be another team’s cast-off. Realistic choices are Vesa Toskela, who needs security to leave Toronto every night. Biron, who was blamed for bringing down a great team with bad goaltending in Philly the last few years (sound familiar?). Jose Theodore? I’ll keep Huet in that case. Perhaps a super long shot that the Hawks could pick up Turco at the deadline if the Stars are out of the hunt and don’t want to resign him, but even if al the stars align for that you are going to give up a lot and when Turco walks at the end of the season you are still looking at 2 more years of Huet.

Your last option is to try and trade for an unproved backup like Josh Harding. You would end up giving up way too much for him and you still will have Huet’s big contract sitting on the bench, like Giguire in Anaheim. The Hawks just really don’t have the money to do that.

by burgstrom on Oct 18, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

i traded for biron in nhl 10 and he did great, does that count for anything?

by Donuts on Oct 18, 2009 1:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

no one wants Huey in mine. I’ll have to put his suck ass on waivers

by G8K33P3R on Oct 19, 2009 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not going to happen..EVER!

If the Hawks management finally decides that Huet isn’t going to help them get to where they want to then they will deal for a top notch netminder…and sorry Lehtonen isn’t one of them.
Given Scotty’s history with bringing in netminders with other organizations (Detroit and Pittsburgh) I would most likely lean towards Giguere. There is no other netminder available that has his credentials in fact not many netminder within the NHL has his credentials. A 2003 Conn Smythe and 2007 Stanley Cup Champion Giguere is the only netminder at this point I would consider to have over Huet for there really isn’t any better options out there. Maybe Roloson or Biron, but if the Hawks are going to upgrade this position it would make little sense to acquire a netminder with credentials similar to Huet’s. Right now it’s Huet (although he could use a break) and if need be then Giguere, anything else would just seem inadequete.

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Oct 18, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Take solace in the fact that Auld stole the game for the Stars. The Hawks, except Huet, were much better than the Stars

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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Oct 18, 2009 10:10 AM CDT reply actions  

I only saw the last few minutes of the second period and the third

But it seemed to me that Huet came up huge in the third period—aside from that freakshow goal he looked really really good making tough saves while we were killing off a couple PP’s. All this hate is directed toward that BS goal.

Something to ponder, though—there has been a lot of love thrown at Huet from Foley and the radio team…think they were told to talk him up to avoid a Grossman-esque 2006 season in the media?

by illinikc33 on Oct 18, 2009 11:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Let the Huet hate start again?

I don’t think it’s ever going to stop either this year or ever. Let’s face it the media and fans have basically drubbed this guy as the guy who will ruin the season if the Hawks don’t win the Stanley Cup and in essence has become another Patrick Lalime. For those who don’t know the Ottawa Senators waltzed into the 2003-04 season as the overwhelming favourites to win Lord Stanley’s mug after reaching the Conference Finals the year previous and capturing the President’s Trophy. They were loaded top to bottom with the likes of Hossa, Havlat, Alfredsson, and Spezza up front with Chara, Redden, and Phillips on the back end it looked like nothing could derail this powerhouse except one thing…Patrick Lalime their inept netminder. Game after game Lalime struggled all season while his back-up Martin Prusek was stellar throughout the season yet come playoff time it was Lalime who started (eventhough fans begged Mucker to trade for a new #1) and after 15 minutes of the first period the Sens were down 3-0 in Game 7 to the Leafs after Lalime let in 3 hideous goals and then, and only then, did Prusek get a chance but then it was too late. Does this sound familiar?

What is the point of trotting out Huet time and time again when it is clear he is not capable of performing at the level the Hawks expect and need from him? And why should it be fair that Niemi consistantly be religated to the back-up role all the while the starter continues to flounder? This thought process makes no sense. Huet is struggling to the point of no return with now reports that goaltending coach Stephane Waite is restructing his mechanics and based on his recent performances it hasn’t helped one bit, in fact you can make the case it has made him worse. Huet mentally is in a mess right now and trotting him out there isn’t going to help and if he is the guy moving forward then it would be the best to put in Niemi right now and let Huet work on his game with Waite until he feels 100% confortable and confident.
Huet has proven to be a good goaltender throughout the past just ask any ‘Les Canadiens’ fan, many of whom were shocked on far Huet has fallen since his days in Montreal, and will get back to that level again but not by being thrown to the wolves and playing game after game. He needs a mental rest and practice time to restructure his game and most importantly his confidence and if he can’t do it in time then the Hawks should deal for another top netminder (preferably Giguere) but let’s give it some time shall we? I don’t think anyone needs to tell him how horrible he had been I think he already knows that.

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Oct 18, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Impressed

This is probably my favorite post you have written Hawks61.

I think the only approach right now is wait and see, and when the deadline rolls around or we are at least closer to it, you make the call on what needs to be done (Also making Giguire and several other goaltenders cap hits significantly less).

Huet’s softies aside, the Hawks are still 5-2-1, and if he does come around, this is going to be an even more terrifying team. Given the financial situation, you are pretty much hand cuffed into giving it more time.

by burgstrom on Oct 18, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huet couldn’t win the job last year, he shouldn’t just get the job this year…I want to see more of Neimi…I think we will, too. Despite the fact that the organ-I-zation thought Huet would be the man last year, Q wasn’t afraid to make Khabi the #1 down the stretch. If Q comes to the realization that Niemi gives us the best shot to win, he’ll pull the trigger

by HawkInExile on Oct 18, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huet has never been good

He had a lucky season in which he didn’t even play that much, won some games in front of a good team, got traded for a reason, and again for another reason. He has never done well in the playoffs. Maybe he has shown to get hot for a few weeks at a time, but his mechanics have never been good. His play last year was below average and his play this year is terrible. Do not play him anymore. Niemi shows adequate mechanics and is much quicker on his feet. Id Niemi would have started every game this season the Hawks would have zero losses. It’s as simple as that. There is no point talking about him anymore, he is not our guy.

by Puckpowwow.com on Oct 18, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then please,

don’t ever post about him again, or comment on any post about him again. So hackneyed.

by illinikc33 on Oct 18, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Hossa had played in every game this season

The Hawks would have won 23-3.

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Oct 19, 2009 1:37 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

If you were a sweater

you would be on the clearance rack at kohls.

Got more soul than a sock with a hole.

by chrome on Oct 19, 2009 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hate to pound my chest but...

…after watching Brouwer score I have to do a little bragging considering I predicted he would. Anybody can predict that Toews, Sharp, or Kane will score in a certain game but Brouwer…and it happen? Now that’s pretty fuckin good I have to say.
Make note though that I’m more often wrong than I’m right (picked the Wild to win the Northwest..can you say UGH!) but in this case I just couldn’t resist the temptation to brag a little.

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Oct 18, 2009 12:22 PM CDT reply actions  

In theory we could make a deal for a goaltender giving up some of our offensive surplus and then send Huet down to Rockford if he clears waivers, which would clear up salary cap space whether he’s claimed or not. It might make sense to let the season progress and make a trade closer to the deadline when some teams are looking towards the future, as we are going to make the playoffs and our main need will be to have better goalending for the postseason. In the meantime Waite can keep trying to work a miracle and maybe Huet will get back on track. We definitely aren’t going to compete for the Cup if things continue this way in net.

by Wolverine16 on Oct 18, 2009 12:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Just read somewhere...

Some guy thinks Antii Niemi is a future hall of famer!!!!!!

by Wanker751 on Oct 18, 2009 1:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Probably the same guy with the “No Wiz, No Wins” sign.

by burgstrom on Oct 18, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Darren Pang isn’t much of a Huet believer apparently…

http://www.670thescore.com/topic/play_window.php?audioType=Episode&audioId=4090875

it’s an audio interview btw

by Crease Monkey on Oct 18, 2009 3:34 PM CDT reply actions  

Christobal Huet is the achilles heel

The Blackhawks are not a serious contender for a Stanley Cup challenge under the current goaltending situation. Surely Stan Bowman understands that. Hence why I predict he makes a blockbuster deal for a goalie within a matter of weeks. Kris Versteeg will be the primary trade bait.

Huet is not good. Simple as that.

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by BLou on Oct 18, 2009 4:12 PM CDT reply actions  

I still don’t see many options for the Hawks. In moving Versteeg you free up a little cap space but the Hawks really can’t afford to take on more salary, so you will get a $3MM goalie in return. Any goalie on that list that could realistically be moved is not looking like an upgrade. You also give up one of your biggest options for a salary dump next summer when it’s truly needed.

And let’s be real, no one wants Huet for the same reasons we don’t want him. Would you take him for 2.75 years at almost $6MM? Meaning you have to work the cap with Huet on the bench the same way Giguire is in Anaheim.

Your last option is to send Huet to the minors where he will probably clear waivers (teams won’t want the contract even if they don’t have to give anything up), but Rocky is not big on paying guys to not play.

by burgstrom on Oct 19, 2009 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

What happened to all the rational posters here

have the newbie fanatics really scared anyone with a half a brain away from this lovely place?

FifthFeather.com

by El Duque's Raft on Oct 18, 2009 4:34 PM CDT reply actions  

I think the Daily Herald

site must be down….

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by Tiocfaidh ar La on Oct 18, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

There have been very few victories in the field of rational thought around these parts of late. It’s getting irritating, but it’s not quite ESPN/Puck Daddy comments bad just yet

http://accordingtwomey.blogspot.com

by hawksfan21 on Oct 18, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

The worst part is that they repeat themselves incessantly,

See: BLou, Cubsfan202012031232222

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on Oct 18, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's turning into the Blackhawk message boards from the official site...

it’s painful to see the same remarks on here. Can’t we just talk about beer, grammar, & what a stud John Madden is?

http://twitter.com/hawksfansince08

by hawksfansince08 on Oct 18, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Telestrator has been on fire

I guess not drinking that Meadowlands tar-water has lightened his skates, but I don’t remember him moving so well in his years with NJ.

Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.

by russellguldin on Oct 18, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's nothing irrational about the hate for Huet

I don’t think we have been watching the same games, because anyone who watches can see that this guys confidence is shot and, CURRENTLY, does not have what it takes to lead this team anywhere. The team may say they have to play better in front of him, but really how much better can they. They lead the league in shots per game, fewest shots allowed, and fewest penalty minutes, yet are 5-2-1 when they realistically could be 8-0 if they had, say, Khabibulin in net. Hawks don’t need Huet to be Patrick Roy, just make the saves you are supposed to, and so far, he can’t even do that (See goals 3 and 4 from last night), which cost the team 2 points last night in a game they outplayed the Stars. Then again if you still want this guy in net come April I can assure you the season will not end with us lifting the cup

Lets Go Hawks!

by CubsBall2202 on Oct 18, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

You do make some good points

But I don’t think anyone has suggested that they indeed want Huet to be the goaltender come April for it’s still late October and winter hasn’t arrived yet (except in New England…was Tennesee afraid of the snow? 59-0?) so all of this is speculation. Come the end of February we’ll know who are #1 netminder will be come playoff time but probably not before then so it’s either Huet gets going or Niemi.
As for Khabibulin, did you watch him from October 2005-April 2008? If you did you wouldn’t be insinuating that the Hawks would be 8-0 if he was the netminder leading us right now. That’s all I’m going to say.

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Oct 18, 2009 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

To be honest the defense's that he played behind in those years

were horrifying. Last year when the team was pretty sound defensively he put together a pretty good year. The defense he would be playing behind this year is allowing the fewest shots in the league, I don’t think it is that much of a stretch to say we would be 8-0 with him in net

Lets Go Hawks!

by CubsBall2202 on Oct 18, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well if his confidence is shot, why not try to rally around him and support him like his teammates are doing? Unless something changes dramatically, he’s not going anywhere and there’s not going to be anybody to replace him. If you’re a Hawks fan, get behind him and ride him as long as you can. If you’d rather just be an irrational douchenozzle, keep booing Huet and come up with all of these impossible scenarios about how we can replace him. (not just you, but all the Huet haters in general could benefit from a cooler head on this topic)

http://accordingtwomey.blogspot.com

by hawksfan21 on Oct 18, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think anyone is rooting for Huet to fuck up

Everyone wants the team to succeed, I just think a lot of people, myself included, don’t have the confidence that this guy can perform under the highest pressure circumstances in the playoffs, when it appears the team in front of him is primed for a legitimate cup run for the first time in a while. While it appears that they are going to play Huet for a while, im hoping he can at least turn it around and get this team some wins, however if he continues at the level that hes been at this year, I won’t hesitate to say that we need a change in net.

Lets Go Hawks!

by CubsBall2202 on Oct 18, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Although

What you haven’t considered is that perhaps he’d perform better under pressure. Maybe he gets bored with the few shots sent to him, loses focus and that is the cause of all the problems.

If you think this defense is rock solid, you haven’t been watching Barker very much.

If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning

by Trixietrx on Oct 19, 2009 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

He certainly played pretty damn well in Game 5 against Detroit… that’s some pressure

by Killion on Oct 19, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good point. I’ll admit that I’m a Huet apologist, but it’s pretty fucking hard to get a good feel for the puck when you’re not getting a lot of shots, and a good percentage of the shots you are facing are really good scoring chances.

by Geoffhawk on Oct 19, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh no

You had my interest until I read that the Hawks would be 8-0 if Khabibulin was in net. What a meathead comment.

Also, it is great that the Hawks have given up so few shots, but try watching the game and not just looking at the scoresheet after the fact. There have been some absolutely terrible defensive breakdowns and turnovers (see Barker…in every game, for an example) that lead to some pretty prime scoring chances. It’s pretty tough to goaltend like that, when you’re only seeing 18 shots a night, but half of those are prime scoring chances.

Saturday night’s game was the only game this season that you can blame on Huet and actually have something. The goal on an unscreened slapshot from the top of the circle was inexcusable.

by Geoffhawk on Oct 19, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

You bother watching the ankle-grabbers

that cost the oil slicks two games? against their fiercest rivals? Khabby making the hawks 8-0 is a ridiculous assertion. And I was one of the 3500 (if that many) season ticketholders watching him let in LOTS of pucks that should have been stopped, no matter how bad the defense was.

"Youuuu Suck, Mayyyyers!!"

by Tiocfaidh ar La on Oct 19, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uhh

Huet hasn’t been good but the way that some goals are being blamed entirely on him is irrational

Huet has also looked really good occasionally. I think they will trade him but its not like we have a better alternative.

by 815Sox on Oct 19, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Hawks are in a tough spot. With Huet’s contract being what it is, he is going to be tough to trade and the way he is playing doesn’t help. The Atlanta deal is questionnable as he has that groin history.

Now, a name that probably no one is considering is Tomas Vokoun from Florida. I am a lifelong Hawk fan living here in Fort Lauderdale since 93. The locals are getting fed up with Vokoun’s play which at times has been subpar, but the defense in front of him stinks most nights. As we saw the Panthers give up a ton of shots. The contracts are almost the same, and if both players need a change of scenery it could be a good swap. I do think Vokoun is better than he has shown, and wants to play for a winner.
Who knows, this could be something for both sides to consider.

Thoughts?

by Iron Mike on Oct 18, 2009 4:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Vokoun isn’t that much better than Huet in terms of numbers. HE’s played more games with stats that are very similar to Christo’s. I think we are fine with Huet; it will get better as he adjusts to our team defense.

Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.

by russellguldin on Oct 18, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd definitely take Vokoun over Huet

but you’re right…basic stat wise they’re virtually the same until you look at teams they’ve had in front of them.

Vokoun – 218-215, 2.57 GAA, .915 SV%
Huet – 105-78, 2.47 GAA, .915 SV%

I’d love to see what Vokoun could do on an actual team considering he’s been wasting away on the Preds and Panthers his entire career save for one start in MON. I think PuckProspectus had Vokoun rated as their #2 G behind Thomas via their VUKOTA metric.

by Crease Monkey on Oct 18, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would also think that the organization would want to dump salary and not take on the same contract if they can help it.

Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.

by russellguldin on Oct 18, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

TSN Reports!

Wolves trade Legace to Hawks for,Frank Pellico,the organ,half the beer concessions from the 300 level,half the hard booze concessions from the 100 and 200 level, half the Hawks parking revenue and wait……….. Huet!

by idiot man on Oct 18, 2009 5:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm glad most of the commenters aren't the Blackhawks

Winners don’t panic and throw team members under the bus. It’s a long time until the playoffs. Keep the faith.

by maxachium27 on Oct 18, 2009 5:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Keep the faith?

It’s hard to have faith in Huet when he’s so wildly erratic from period to period, and it’s not like this is a new problem for Huet, either. He was good when Khabby got hurt last winter, shaky down the stretch, had an awful display in game 4 of the Detroit series, and then played his brains out in game 5. Erratic.

Not acceptable for a Stanley Cup contender.

He has delivered a full game only once so far, against Nashville. And yes, the season is young, but so is my nephew, and he huffs glue.

Faith is just stubbornness for people who don’t want to face the facts.

by Kid Douche on Oct 18, 2009 6:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Or fairth is for people

who don’t want to let performance over less than 6 full games lead to complete panic and DOOOOOOOOMSAYING for the rest of the entire season. Especially since the team is 5-2-1. Again, why are you not ragging Toews for failing to put the puck in the net? That guy’s shot is pathetic. Why are you not praising Tallon for signing Buff to that contract? Surely he’s playing much better than a 3 mill/yr player—what a steal!!!

Is a goalie with a 2.94 GAA and .897 SV% a Stanley Cup caliber goalie? Because that’s what Khabi was in the playoffs last season—shit. How quickly everyone forgets how brilliant Huet was in Game 6 last year when the season was on the line. An earlier commenter was right—what happened to the rational thought on this site? Maybe it is all of the new ‘fans’ that are popping up. I have a few who didn’t know hockey existed until last year who are bitching about Huet and how terrible he is. Do they know hockey? No. Do they watch the games? No. Do they know what kind of a puck is stoppable and which is not? No. Do they have any patience? No—-maybe it’s b/c they are Cubs fans too.

This is getting so old.

by illinikc33 on Oct 18, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

RE: Irrational commenters

One of the reasons I haven’t been posting here much anymore. We’ve been overrun with morons. I blame Yahoo.

… but leave baseball out of this.

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on Oct 18, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

is yahoo why all the morons are at the United Center now too? I need someone to blame for that.

by burgstrom on Oct 18, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on Oct 18, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Doesn't that compound the problem?

For one I don’t think we have been overrun by morons. I think everyone (except a few) have very good opinions that I respect and like to read but it does seem that we keep belabouring the same point over and over. Some like Huet and believe it’s just a slump, other think he just sucks and want him out of town, others believe that Huet and Niemi need to split time and that’s fine, but was isn’t is that we have been debating this since the pre-season and we’re not eventhrough October.
I originally thought the “Niemi should be #1” after his shutout was just in good fun but it has evolved into complete stupidity.
Irrational comments happen during the course of the game and I am “guilty as charged” when it comes to that, but a day after the game one would like to think that a sense of sensibility would eventually breakthrough.

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Oct 18, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is true LOL

Very true and guilty as charged when it comes to that as well.

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Oct 18, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAHA

Mjthor’s comment made me laugh about your posting.
Don’t take it the wrong way. You post many valid thoughts, just loooonnnnnggg thoughts. Kinda reminf me of my friend from Long Island. Real Long on words.

   I havent’ posted as much so far this year because of all the BS posts on here. I’m a Cubs fan, ya say what you will, and this is sounding like way too many of the North side fans already and i hate.
Keep on keepin on hawks61

by Roos-34 on Oct 19, 2009 7:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

and i hate

it

damn that missing edit button

by Roos-34 on Oct 19, 2009 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

But I say douchenozzle more than anyone, right?

Cause I want some award.

If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning

by Trixietrx on Oct 19, 2009 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

That whizzing sound is Thor's comedy zipping over heads...

…hawks61 does tend to be…prolix at times, but it seems to me he means well.

Others who have taken to the ledge in October though, are simply badly scarred Chicago fans. Aren’t they more to be pitied than censured?

Thor, you have to believe these people are educable. Quiet, unemotinal persistence. Don’t put the hammer away, or the hand-wringers will already have won.

I’d rather goofs spew nonsense on SCH than at the UC. Get it out of their system.

If the boo birds don’t care what I think, maybe Captain Marvell will impress them: “It’s not only frustating for him, but for us sometimes when we hear jeers during a game.”

Or Madden on Huet: “He’s not getting any breaks.”

This is true- when a puck goes in off a skate or hip, I wanna kick the dog across the room as much as the next guy, but sometimes, it’s just bad luck.

In closing, all you boo birds should listen to Da Coach: “Get your mouth shut! Jerks!”

by cliffkoroll on Oct 19, 2009 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Oh, the majority of them are certainly not lost causes.

But these comment sections are getting downright exhausting—they’ve turned into townhall meetings, with the rational minority being “shouted down” by asinine drivel. It’s been a lot easier to avoid the comments lately than try to combat widespread, obstinate ignorance.

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on Oct 19, 2009 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Morons?

Ive been a fan since Hall,Hull,Wharram, Nesterenko,etc.Thinking Huet sucks make people newbies? Imo your comment is not totally valid.I WAS paying to see Calder,Arnason etc.They were our future stars! So although my opinion of Huet may be worthless its not because im a bandwagon-jumper.

by idiot man on Oct 18, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Valid point

You remind us of the long, dark past that existed before this dawn of real, no diggity Stanley Cup contention. We should remember the days of Jocelyn Thibault, Chris Passmore, and Michael Leighton before we even begin to talk about Huet.

Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.

by russellguldin on Oct 18, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I always

liked Chris Passmore’s brother, Steve, much more. He just had that #3 goalie aura about him.

by Crease Monkey on Oct 18, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I meant 'Steve"

I have no idea who Chris Passmore is. I’m sorry for my error.

Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.

by russellguldin on Oct 18, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know

I was just busting your marbles.

by Crease Monkey on Oct 18, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was afraid there was a Chris

 and I missed another shitty former ’Hawk goaltender in my mini-rant.

Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.

by russellguldin on Oct 18, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Rozner wrote a bot

and it pollutes the boards so he can write “Ask many Hawks fans….”

"Youuuu Suck, Mayyyyers!!"

by Tiocfaidh ar La on Oct 19, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Obviously you do not watch much Hockey

You commented earlier that you missed most of last nights game and yet here you are bashing people for commenting on something you did not watch. No one talks about Toews’ play because, even though he hasn’t done much in the points department, he is playing well and doing the things that need to be done. Something a person who knows and watches the games would see. There are lots of guys on the team who are doing what is needed and one guy who is not, who never has for the Hawks. Yes, he played really well in one game last year that the Hawks still lost. If you have been watching hockey you might have noticed that Huet is not a great goaltender and no matter how much time you give him or how well the Hawks play, they will not win a Stanley Cup with him in net. He makes a crap ton more money than every goalie that has beaten him this year. Why do you like him so much. No fan has more patience than Cub’s fans.
Every puck, with the exception of one has been stoppable by Huet this year.
But I will not say anymore about him, just watch the rest of the Hawks play some damn good hockey. Regardless of Huet it is great to be a Hawks fan right now.

by Puckpowwow.com on Oct 18, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

well

no one talks about Toews because he has a track record, albeit only two years. He started out slow last year and we know how he fared. The problem with the Huet bashing is that no one can really say with certainty either way because he’s never been a full-time starter.

by Crease Monkey on Oct 18, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Two points do not make a pattern

they form a line.

Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.

by russellguldin on Oct 18, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Lemme guess, are you a dedicated longtime hockey player?

by ChicoMaki on Oct 18, 2009 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice!

"Youuuu Suck, Mayyyyers!!"

by Tiocfaidh ar La on Oct 19, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Every puck, with the exception of one has been stoppable by Huet this year.

That statement alone makes every comment you make unreadable.

by illinikc33 on Oct 18, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're right

Every puck should be stopped by every goalie. That’s their job, what they are paid to do.

I want to see more 0-0 scores in hockey. It would make for a great game.

If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning

by Trixietrx on Oct 19, 2009 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’m sure most would agree that Luongo, Thomas, and Brodeur are among 3 of the top 5 or so G’s depending on how you rate Nabakov or Lundquist. FWIW Brodeur was matching Huet in sucktitude until he posted a 2-0 SO the other night.

Huet – 3.25 GAA, .844 SV%
Luongo – 3.41 GAA, .870 SV%
Brodeur – 2.68 GAA, .903 SV%
Thomas – 3.20 GAA, .896 SV%
Kiprusoff – 3.26 GAA, .902 SV%
Khabby – 3.11 GAA, .898 SV%
Vokoun – 3.80 GAA, .903 SV%
Osgood – 3.20 GAA, .886 SV%
C.Price – 3.36 GAA, 886 SV%
Toskala – 5.56 GAA, .812 SV%

fwiw Huet is only averaging 18.1 shots per game faced in his 6 starts

by Crease Monkey on Oct 18, 2009 7:46 PM CDT reply actions  

I’ll take all bets. Not one of these goalies makes it to the end of the year. All of them finish the season with their AHL affiliates. They suck, each of them, look at the numbers.

by ChicoMaki on Oct 18, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that "Luongo" asswipe is a scrub

Brodeur? Is he a new rookie? Never heard of him.

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Oct 19, 2009 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's CLEAR to any real hockey fan

That Luongo has lost his confidence and needs to go down and work things out. Guess Buff’s giant ass and Kaner’s backhand are still haunting his dreams

"Youuuu Suck, Mayyyyers!!"

by Tiocfaidh ar La on Oct 19, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was sarcasm.

I am realizing that some folks need that pointed out…

"Youuuu Suck, Mayyyyers!!"

by Tiocfaidh ar La on Oct 19, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Change in play

I wish my recall was better, but I do remember hearing/reading that there’s this idea of changing Huet’s style of play from his Euro hybrid to a NorAm butterfly. I don’t think this can be true. It would be akin to hiring a stand-up comic due to his hilarious jokes and timing and then train him to wrestle bears in the circus.

But if it is true, then the play we’ve seen from him is because you teaching an old dog new tricks. He’s 34 and has had success with the style he plays. Hell, it’s probably the reason he has the job he has now. You don’t sign free agents to train them; that is what the draft is for. If the ’Hawks are so put off by his style of play as to try and teach him a new style, then they had better trade him for whatever they can get for him and put Craw/Niemi in net right now.

As a former goalie, I can tell you that no coach ever told me how to handle a ridiculous bounce off of the glass partitions. Of course, I did not ever play in the NHL. Maybe all the rest of you NHL goalies and coaches can tell me that is a regular part of practice.

Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.

by russellguldin on Oct 18, 2009 7:53 PM CDT reply actions  

No there is no practice for that

Huet has not been the first victim of this and certainly won’t be the last either for I’m sure we’ll see more of this from other netminders as the season unfolds. All I can say is that it’s better to have it happen during the regular season than in the playoffs.

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Oct 18, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

no way he could change up his style

I think alot of people simply just do not understand the benefits and negatives when it comes to the Butterfly vs Euro style.

Huet is a European goalie, no way around it. That is why you get so many saying he goes down to early (which is sometimes true)

by 815Sox on Oct 19, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uh umm....

Did you not post this an hour ago?

It’s as simple as that. There is no point talking about him anymore, he is not our guy.

And add to it I do watch every Hawks game before commenting here and it was last night that I was at my cousin’s party in Montreal and yes I missed about half of the game but guess what?…when I got home a watched the game in it’s entirety thanks to an invention called PVR!!!
I like many people would talk about Toews more, but I do find myself trying to be one of the few rational people here when it comes to Huet. Is he as good as Brodeur?No. Is he as good as Luongo?No. But many people come on here and suggest he’s worse than Emery, Theodore, Toskala, and Auld which is ridiculous. I will bet any money that Huet ends up with better numbers than all those 4 netminders.
He isn’t the best, but far from the worst either. He just needs a mental break like Osgood last year, Brodeur in the 1994 playoffs vs. Boston and in the 1995 regular season, Roy in 1988 when he was struggling and Hayward took over for a while under Pat Burns and I can go on. Even the best ever have had stretches when they have strugged, Huet is no different.

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Oct 18, 2009 7:57 PM CDT reply actions  

RE: PVR

Canada is just now getting VHS recorders?

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on Oct 18, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Easy now!

Bell ExpressVu’s new receivers have that feature where I can set the time and it just records the game. All I know is that when I tried it Saturday before I left it worked this morning and that’s all I care about.

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Oct 18, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

My comment was not targeted towards you

It was towards illinkc33. Sorry, I actually was just saying to myself that you are one of my favorite commentators on this sight.
I do sound a bit harsh at times, but I have been watching Huet for a while and have always felt that his fundamentals were poor, no matter whether he was winning or loosing. Numbers have nothing to do with it and mean nothing to me. He never looks sound and if he is making saves they are often as a result of being out of position and having to try really hard. Something I have not seen yet this year from him. Osgood, Brodeur, Roy have always relied on great fundamentals. I would never use their names in the same sentence as Huet’s, well maybe Osgood, but Brodeur is the greatest goalie that ever played the game. Hands down. Sorry again, for sounding arrogant and or pompous, I just have not liked the guy for many years and now he is ruining the best Hawks year in a very long time. Too much hype over an average goaltender.

by Puckpowwow.com on Oct 18, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the compliment

But I don’t think it does anybody good belabouring this point day after day after day….it’s becoming quite ridiculous if you ask me.
Have no problems with posts suggesting how he can get better or some of the posts that suggest that down the road if he can’t who to replace him with, but a lot of this talk is a little premature.
Let’s wait until the Olympic break until we decide whether or not to unload Huet’s contract and how. For right now let’s focus on how Huet can improve his game for that’s how were going to get better for as of right now I don’t think there are any sellars- even Anahiem and Long Island. Think all GM’s are waiting to meet one another in Vancouver in February so until then it’s Huet for the Hawks and the AJ for Greentree calibre of deals across the NHL.

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Oct 18, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Things are really getting scary around here

if hawks61 is trying to quell the masses.

FifthFeather.com

by El Duque's Raft on Oct 18, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Utter randomness

I am going to be Key-rok, unfrozen caveman lawyer for Halloween this year. Does anybody have a suggestion for the neanderthal forehead that doesn’t involve skulling Chris Pronger?

Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.

by russellguldin on Oct 18, 2009 8:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Just look at Kevin Bieksa

His whole face could be used as a point of reference.

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Oct 18, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point.

Does anybody know where I can get a pic of Bieksa with an 80’s era Mel Gibson mullet?

Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.

by russellguldin on Oct 18, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just a rough patch

Huet is going through a rough patch, that’s all it is. He may not be a future hall of famer, but he’s also not this bad either. A lot of people, myself included, thought that Huet wasn’t good enough to be a Stanley Cup winning goaltender this year as THE GUY, but that sentiment seems to be driving some overreaction to his poor play. My criticism of him was meant with more subtlety, meaning that in a tough playoff series that’s relatively evenly matched where every little difference matters and you need your goalie to face down the game’s best players is Huet a guy who can carry a team through a series? I’m not convinced that he can, but it’s a near miss. He was solid last year during the season and excellent when needed in the playoffs, but the truth is that Habby was a little better and deserved the playoff job.

But this is different with Huet this season. Right now he’s had a few really, horribly bad games, like comically bad, as in literal laugh out loud moments. This isn’t one of those more-of-the-same situations where a mediocre player keeps breaking your heart, this is a trainwreck on ice. That means it’s an outlier, just a horrible, horrible streak that people go through from time to time, completely magnified by the questions surrounding Huet and people extrapolating that to being something bigger. He’s going to improve and get out of this funk and be fine because he’s a much better player than his output so far, and given the sheer number of games played the law of averages isn’t going to let him play that much worse than his talent. Regardless of whether or not you believe Huet can ultimately become THE GUY, this isn’t the body of work to use to make a final decision on that.

I just wish the fans in the Madhouse were more understanding of that. I don’t have a problem with a demanding fan base expecting the players to earn the fans’ support nor do I have a problem with booing bad behavior and expecting a professional to turn in a professional’s day’s work. But the relationship between the fans and Huet is approaching adversarial and that’s just not healthy for any of us in the long term.

As for whether or not we can trade for a better goalie we’re almost certain to trade some players here no matter what. We’ve got three unhealthy forwards that are eventually coming back and after you send Skille to Rockford and maybe take Frazier out (as they did for most of the playoffs) you still have to figure out 1 more cut from the list of Bolland, Buff, Kane, Toews, Sharp, Ladd, Madden, VERSTEEG!, Brower, Kopecky, Eager, Burish and Hossa. You can start going through the scenarios in your head to try and figure it out, but eventually you come to the realization that we have a lot of depth up front and not much at the blue line and could probably use some help between the pipes. We could really use a big body to pair with Soupy and I don’t think anyone would lose any sleep if Unfrozen Caveman Hockey Player was the odd man out as he and Barker have looked very poor defensively at times. If we can get a #1 goalie great, but if not it is what it is. But let’s not go overpay for somebody else’s Huet-equivalent out of desperation. Let’s get Huet on the ice to turn it around, let’s get Hossa and Eager healthy and let’s make a trade to get more physical on the blue line, and if in that process a deal becomes available for a #1 goalie then great but if not then let’s stay rational and improve the team wisely.

by Scott13 on Oct 18, 2009 11:25 PM CDT reply actions  

A shame

This is the best Hawks team in my lifetime, and the bitching here is incredible. Paying full price to actually go to games and then boo and put classless posters up to trade Huet accomplish nothing. Why not just save up the rage from the game and smash a windshield in the parking lot on the way home? That would accomplish just as much waving a trade Huet sign.

by NKLHD on Oct 19, 2009 12:02 AM CDT reply actions  

Thank you!

I don’t like people who play the whole “I’ve been a fan longer” pissing match, but I sometimes really wish more people here had been around for the dark ages that were the past 10 years. Spotty goaltending or not, I watch every game KNOWING this team can win,and we can skate with the best in the league. You couldn’t say that for a long time…

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Oct 19, 2009 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think how long you have been a fan in some cases actually is relevant. I would bet the guys holding “Trade Huet” signs were not hanging out in a near empty UC.

If they were fans of hockey for that long they would know enough about the game that they would could apply basic logic to why moving him is near impossible, and that we are 8 games into an 82 game season and perhaps we should allow a little more time before doing something irrational with a deal that still has 3 years and almost $18MM on it.

I would have begged for this to be our biggest problem a few years ago (although I guess it kind of was…).

by burgstrom on Oct 19, 2009 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Please don't smash one in the handicapped parking

at least until after 1/1/10. Until then it could be my car. Let me suggest the non-UC lots or some street parked cars instead…. Thanks in advance

"Youuuu Suck, Mayyyyers!!"

by Tiocfaidh ar La on Oct 19, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Would u take Biron from Islanders along with Witt or Sutton

I would even take Huets contract (if anything we have in assets is lots of salary cap) but u would have to through us some your youth say Versteeg and Barker for starters and maybe a Beach or Skille

by steelermafia on Oct 19, 2009 12:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Nice try Garth

you’re not getting anything but a draft pick for Biron. Try trolling some other site now.

FifthFeather.com

by El Duque's Raft on Oct 19, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

If only Huet had the mental composure

of the posters on this site.

Then we’d be in good shape.

Got more soul than a sock with a hole.

by chrome on Oct 19, 2009 6:31 AM CDT reply actions  

I really hope

I’m missing the sarcasm of this post hahaha.

Classic

by Roos-34 on Oct 19, 2009 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well

most of them have been watching or playing hockey for 142 years so you obviously don’t know what you’re talking about. What’s your resume look like, champ?

They know what it takes to be a good goalie. They use a stopwatch on a nightly basis to determine Huet’s post-to-post time, it sucks. They’ve scouted his whole career, that’s why they actually know Montreal gave up on him and didn’t decide that Carey Price was their future.

FifthFeather.com

by El Duque's Raft on Oct 19, 2009 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have been watching hockey for as long as

Joe Morgan’s been watching baseball. And Matt Millen’s been watching football. And Jerry Taft’s been watching the weather.

This is why I agree with ‘them’. There is only one solution. TRADE HIM! And as a loyal fan, I am going to help the Blackhawks by making the United Center as hostile an environment as I possibly can, thereby worsening Huet’s stats and providing the Blackhawks more leverage in this unfortunate situation.

Got more soul than a sock with a hole.

by chrome on Oct 19, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ice Hockey from NES

Huet couldn’t stop that fat guy from the game Ice Hockey from scoring. I don’t care what you all Huet backers say, He sucks and the org. knows it but they are going to start him because of his contract. As much as they preach they want to win it for the fans all all this hype for the past two years, when it comes down to it money comes first and they will make sure he plays the games if he is going to get paid all that money, its commen sense. If Huet got paid way less then what his contract is, his ass would have been benched a long time ago. Now if their is a blind team out there that thinks they can use Huet and so be it, but I highly doubt it. We are stuck with.

by redtribe14 on Oct 19, 2009 9:49 AM CDT reply actions  

Counterpoint!

Got more soul than a sock with a hole.

by chrome on Oct 19, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

So...

…the fact that the alternatives are two untested greenies and the NHL trash heap has nothing to do with it?

by cliffkoroll on Oct 19, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why does he suck?

Can you explain it? Also, what evidence do you have that the organization is keeping him only because of his contract?

by 815Sox on Oct 19, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

The medium bulit guy did?

Is that supposed to be a reply to thor or an answer for Clue?

Got more soul than a sock with a hole.

by chrome on Oct 19, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fat guy had, by far, the best shot, especially shooting from center ice, just before your buddy’s goalie comes into view on the screen. He never knows where the fuck his goalie is!

by Geoffhawk on Oct 19, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

sorry

this was a reply to thor, i though the medium bult guy had the best shot in ice hockey. What ever it was just a refrence to poor play.

by redtribe14 on Oct 19, 2009 10:11 AM CDT reply actions  

No..

Thor is right – the medium guy was “average” in every category. Picking the Medium guy is the same as always ordering the chicken dinner when you go out to eat… it’s boring

by Killion on Oct 19, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder how long it will take for me to get bored of

swimming upstream against the latest iteration of Chicago Sports Fan Stupidity.

Got more soul than a sock with a hole.

by chrome on Oct 19, 2009 10:22 AM CDT reply actions  

It's like

banging your head against a brick wall expecting to put a hole in it.

by illinikc33 on Oct 19, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Einstein’s definition of insanity.

About two hours ago I had a cogent thought about the situation, and now I have forgotten it. At the cost of being burned at the stake I will say this. Huet is not expected to be a HOF goalie, we just want him to stop the easy ones and maybe that wicked slapshot from the glass. Scum has won with that turd Osgood by playing a good defensive game. Thus far we have seen soft goals, strange deflections off Hammers skate, Barker making miscues, and more.

From my seat at home, it seems like Cris is having some mental issues. Maybe a couple of days to clear his head will help. I for one will not jump on the trade Huet bandwagon, long season (70+) ahead of us.

It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. - Albert Einstein

by Novy on Oct 19, 2009 11:00 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

We all have seen Huet play better. We have seen him play great actually. And all we really need out of him is average.

The problem is in his head, which makes it all the more frustrating that people “boo” him on home ice. I don’t want the fanbase to get a reputation for running players out of town like they have in Toronto, but that’s exactly where we are headed.

My bold prediction is he turns it around on the circus trip with 2 weeks away from the United Center.

by burgstrom on Oct 19, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just got me an inner tube

and tied a 12pack to it. Now I just drink my way downstream. So much easier then fighting it, and eventually the river will get to an ocean. Hello, beaches!

"Youuuu Suck, Mayyyyers!!"

by Tiocfaidh ar La on Oct 19, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

The hawks should not have to score 5-6 goals game in and game out to be assured of a win. Not that they can’t do it, but still.

I am still for platooning the goalies till one of them shows they are a number one or at the very least ride the hot hand.

Huet maybe more seasoned, but Niemi goaltending seems to be more fundamentally sound.

Pain is a good reminder you are alive

by Bad Ass Burish on Oct 19, 2009 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

is anyone else sick of...

hearing/reading about Huet’s/Niemi’s/Khabibulin’s/Crawford’s fundamentals? Not saying that you don’t necessarily know about goaltending fundamentals, it’s just getting a tad ridiculous to read about “fundamentals” from fans who more than likely know little about goaltending. Huet’s “fundamentals” are just fine, not perfect, but fine. His problem is in his head. There are no goalies playing in the NHL who have bad “fundamentals.” It seems like if someone sees a goalie playing a little different style than what they are used to seeing, then something is automatically wrong.

Not trying to be a dick, but if you’re going to say that Niemi seems “more fundamentally sound” than Huet, please at least elaborate on what you mean.

by Geoffhawk on Oct 19, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

The problem may very well be in his head, but he still needs to work on his fundamentals. Such as not sprawling out all over the ice on quite a few occasions when he does go down. He takes himself out of the play. He needs to keep his glove higher when he does go down. If you are going to cut off the bottom part of the net with your leg pads your glove better be in a more favorable position to make those high saves. There are a few other things he does, but I don’t have a game on to get more into it.

Pain is a good reminder you are alive

by Bad Ass Burish on Oct 19, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

When Huet is sprawled out on the ice, it is in desperation mode, like on a rebound, deflection, one-timer, etc. You can throw form and fundamentals out the window in those situations.

I’ll agree with your second thought, though. Huet would be better served by keeping his glove higher.

by Geoffhawk on Oct 19, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are times where there is nothing he can do about being spawled out over the ice i’ll concede that. There are other times though where he needs to stay postured up, get back up, and reposition himself. IMO this is something Niemi does very well.

Pain is a good reminder you are alive

by Bad Ass Burish on Oct 19, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rec this

However can’t do that from a mobile device.

Other than that, my thoughts exactly.

It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. - Albert Einstein

by Novy on Oct 19, 2009 1:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

rec'd it now

It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. - Albert Einstein

by Novy on Oct 19, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

[NOT SO WITTY UNINFORMATIVE POST]

Pain is a good reminder you are alive

by Bad Ass Burish on Oct 19, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can I use that on the Herald boards?

Rozner might pay to use it for his column…

"Youuuu Suck, Mayyyyers!!"

by Tiocfaidh ar La on Oct 19, 2009 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure.

I think that’s the most recs I’ve ever gotten. I feel… accomplished.

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on Oct 19, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec's are not easy to earn around here. It's a tough crowd ..

Actually I don’t post on the Herald site. Tim Sassone is my favorite Hawks beat writer, and that’s why I’ll keep my DH subscription. But every time I start reading the posts there I feel like I’m watching some weird mash of The Office and Slapshot. I very quickly start cringing until I can click on SCH.
But I bet Rozner goes with that format by the end of the week.

"Youuuu Suck, Mayyyyers!!"

by Tiocfaidh ar La on Oct 19, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Add another

I love returning to a story every other day or so and seeing the genius just blossom over time.

Due to comments like this, I petition for a Super-Rec button.

Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.

by russellguldin on Oct 20, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Maybe a Rec of the Week or Month – with prizes of course. ;)

If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning

by Trixietrx on Oct 21, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Manny Fernandez

What about Manny? The only problem with him is he’s a lot like Huet…..He’s never been a true #1 goalie, but maybe splitting them half-and-half could work out. He’s still a free agent which means added salary….just a thought.

Also, maybe if DiPietro can come back healthy enough, the Hawks could make a push for Dwayne Roloson. He was real good for Edmonton last season and has proven he can be a workhorse in net. I think his salary is around 3mil/year which is affordable.

Giguere? Forget it he makes even more money than Huet and the Hawks aren’t in a position to be adding salary.

That being said, I think the Hawks best course of action would be to stick with Cris. He is a good goalie, no matter what he’s shown so far this season…..we’re only 8 games in. He could stand to be more consistent but the talent is there. If there was any way to get his salary off the books though….that would be nice with the RFA’s coming up.

First post on the blog….it’s tough digging through the crap comments sometimes but it’s still a fun read.

by HawksFTW on Oct 19, 2009 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Fernandez was the #1 in ‘05-’06 in MINN – 58 starts. His success there was a product of the Lemaire system. His numbers in BOS suggest he’s a #2, and of course he has that whole chronic back injury issue.

by Crease Monkey on Oct 19, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tony O

hell Tony O looked like he was ready when called upon to skate in center ice. What is he askin for these days.

by redtribe14 on Oct 19, 2009 2:30 PM CDT reply actions  

but Tony O had such bad fundamentals.

by Geoffhawk on Oct 19, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

My Goal

when Huet comes out in a commerical he should say " My goal is to stop smoking grass before the game." then you see a puck fly past him. lolololol

by redtribe14 on Oct 19, 2009 3:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Wanna get way commerical from south west

south west should make one with Huet’s goal off the boards that went in then the commercial stops and says wanna get a away. lolololol

by redtribe14 on Oct 19, 2009 3:12 PM CDT reply actions  

LOLOLOLOLZZZ

Lets go Hawks! Detroit Sucks!

by TimG58 on Oct 19, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

we get it man..

you don’t like Huet. No need to keep hammering it home over and over again.

by Killion on Oct 19, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last blog

this will my last blog, since I will most likely be band from this after my post. I have never known hawks fans in here had a pms problem. And im going to call them out Matthew Dirt who looks like a sad case of a welfare problem and by looking at his pic, I my not be so far off. and TimG58. Whom from the four I don’t know which is the flake. looking at the pic, it must be the one that is on the right of Seebrook, whom is touching Seebrook’s ass. Anyway, If anyone else in here feels the same way as I. Feel free to check out a real sight run by my nephew called indianheadnation, that I assure you is a site with real ties to the team and thousands of members. And has many options as to topics to choose from. Please feel free to check it out you will not be disappointed. Fairwell to a flaky site.

by redtribe14 on Oct 19, 2009 4:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Please

take your spelling with you.

wait what?

by pepe126 on Oct 19, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

by the way..

I didn’t actually ban this guy – but I bet we don’t see him back very much.

by Killion on Oct 19, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Prolly not

He’s got to get the band back together.

If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning

by Trixietrx on Oct 20, 2009 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yet I doubt

He’s on a mission from God.

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Oct 20, 2009 2:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

You may have had better luck promoting that other blog had you not mentioned that it is run by a relative of yours. Is this nephew a blood relative or through marriage?

by Geoffhawk on Oct 19, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

it's not a blog..

it’s a message board. I actually go there from time to time but don’t really post. There’s a link up to them on our main page.

Some of the commenters there were the ones responsible for the JHC poster that made it to the playoff games

by Killion on Oct 19, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow

so eloquently put! I am in awe of your bodacity, and your inability to spell properly.

so we have PMS because we don’t agree with most of your statements and opinions? Your behavior reminds me of the mouthbreathing meatballs who wish the Bears still had Kyle Orton because the Broncos are undefeated. If you chose to discuss your opinions rather than hurl insults at the individuals who participate on these boards, you might have been received differently.

It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. - Albert Einstein

by Novy on Oct 19, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Buh Bye

Peeked at indianheadnation. All the hand-wringing, none of the more sober counterpoint. Many of the commentators on this site would be more at home there.

For the record, Dirt’s picture always makes me think of an older Jim Anchower.

by cliffkoroll on Oct 19, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got through

about two pages of their discussions re: Sassone’s column and wanted to stab myself in the eye with a #2 Pencil. It appears that at this moment rational thought is beyond some members of the fandom with their calls for Huet’s head on a platter. 8 games in an 82 game season and the sky is falling . . .

It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. - Albert Einstein

by Novy on Oct 19, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t know whether that’s another insult or a compliment… I don’t want to have to band you though so I’ll take it as a compliment

by Killion on Oct 19, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just a superficial observation

Please don’t band me. I look forward to your posts as much as The Cruise. As far as I know, Anchower has never been on welfare.

by cliffkoroll on Oct 19, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta love the swipe at public aid recipients

As a Social Worker, who’s foster kids depend on public aid (welfare) things like that just piss me off. A large majority of public aid recipients are children and they are on it for a reason. It is simply disgusting to try to use that as a derogatory remark.

by 815Sox on Oct 19, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

PMS

Posting Moron Syndrome? Yeah, I’m hoping that one of the pharmaceutical giants will make a pill to cure us…

"Youuuu Suck, Mayyyyers!!"

by Tiocfaidh ar La on Oct 19, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, God

Another proud graduate of the CPS “Riting Acrozz tha Kurrunkulum” program.

Even spell check abandoned you, you sad, sad asshole.

Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.

by russellguldin on Oct 20, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Glad to see things haven't gotten out of control

Another day of Huet talk? What’s going on here? What is this accomplishing by posting the same thing over and over again? And now there are some resorting to derogatory comments about those who they know nothing about? All on the basis of what their profile picture looks like…pretty sad if you ask me.
Yesterday it was Auld, today it’s Fernandez. Are these 2 that much better than Huet? Add another goaltender (Fernandez) to the pack that I would be shocked if Huet at the end of the season had worse numbers than.

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Oct 19, 2009 10:34 PM CDT reply actions  

I think it’s time we gave the Eagle another run in the Indian head. He always had solid fundamentals.

Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.

by russellguldin on Oct 20, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

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