Quick, Someone Stab Me To See If I Still Feel: Hawks 0-Preds 2
Well that was awful. A bad effort against a bad team in a bad hockey market on a bad ice surface. It's three hours you won't be getting back.
The Hawks have not shaken their incredibly annoying habit of playing to their competition. On a night where we all knew the Preds were going to do their utmost to keep things tight, the Hawks insisted on trying to beat 11 guys at the line on what was probably a warm slurpee of an ice surface. When the Hawks did manage to figure out to get it in deep, they didn't seem all that interested in outworking the Preds. Thankfully, Huet kept them around the whole game where they still should have gotten something out of it.
Obviously, this game was lost on the power play, and hopefully the abortion of a performance will cause the changes that seem so necessary. First off, get Bolland or Sharp off the point. Neither has a skill set that would suggest they can do a job back there. If you're looking for a booming shot, put Buff back there. If you need a handler or distributor, as weird as it sounds, Kris Versteeg would actually be your best bet right now. But neither of those is necessary. Keith, Seabrook, Barker, and Campbell should provided everything the power play needs from the points. Now, why it Tomas Kopecky on with the man-advantage? Why is he on the ice at all? If anyone can explain what he does well, I'll buy you a coke. Oh, and the one guy who's scored a power play goal recently, Troy Brouwer, didn't get any time. Awesome.
Aside from the 3rd against the Wild, and maybe a period against the Preds at home, when was the last time this team looked really good? It's hard to complain about 7-4-1, especially when you're two best all-around forwards have missed time. But there have definitely been some points gone to waste, and you never know when that might come back to haunt you. Luckily, the Habs might be just what the doctor ordered.
Player Of The Game
Look in a mirror. It's you, for surviving watching that drech. Night.
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I'm glad I didn't watch
Sounds like a painfull evening. Good to hear Huet had a good game.
by dkdan on Oct 29, 2009 11:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kopeckey sucks the sweat off a dead man's balls.
by CaptainPorkchop on Oct 30, 2009 1:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He definitely hasn’t been outstanding, but I wouldn’t go as far as you have.
http://accordingtwomey.blogspot.com
by hawksfan21 on Oct 30, 2009 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kopeky is Slovak for...
“nipples on a fish.” Actually, I was thinking of describing someone who is bland and mediocre as “kopekian.”
Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.
by russellguldin on Oct 30, 2009 6:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll be the contrarian
and say I really like Kopecky. He doesn’t get much ice time but when he does I notice him and he always seems to find the puck in space in the offensive zone. Last night he had two back to back bad plays, first he got stuffed on a pass on a two on one that was just bad, and then they got it back and he got stuffed on a pass trying to send it down low. But he’s been the lion’s share of the 4th line chances this year and a line with him, Eager and Burish could really be punishing late this year.
Now go ahead and flame me.
by Scott13 on Oct 30, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe...
…if Bolland’s back gives out or we suffer another injury or make some stupid trade.
Otherwise, do the math- 10 easy forward spots plus two of the following five:
Burrish, Eager, Skille, Kopecky, Frasier.
by cliffkoroll on Oct 30, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Getting ahead of myself dept...
…the lines are in disarray right now, so I thought I’d play “all healthy”.
Toews-Kane-Brouwer (worked last year- nice to have some muscle with JT)
Bolland-Ladd-Hossa (pick up where Havlat left off)
Madden-Versteeg-Buff (better than many 2nd lines)
Sharp-Burrish-Eager (remember the playoffs? Plus, Sharp seems a bit lost lately, and he’d still pick up special team minutes AS A FORWARD.)
by cliffkoroll on Oct 30, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I fell in love
with that Sharp-Burish-Eager line in the playoffs. They only did it a couple times, if I remember correctly most of the games had Eager and Burish with Brouwer, but it was great when they were together.
by Scott13 on Oct 30, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off an injured man's balls
I think that’s what you meant to say, and I want my coke now.
Apparently he’s Hossa’s lover, and thus is kept around to keep Hossa a Happy Panda. More ice time for him = quicker panda recovery.
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
by Trixietrx on Oct 30, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok...
…but if Eager or Burrish gets thrown under the bus here, it’ll be a bad hockey move and SCH shitstorm.
by cliffkoroll on Oct 30, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brouwer
Once again Brouwer was out there working hard, throwing some bodies around and making things happen. I’m surprised, but pleased by that.
by dtkindler on Oct 30, 2009 1:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Lulled to sleep
Nashville & alcohol (there’s a country song in there somewhere). Woke up, saw the final score and cracked another bottle. Good for Huet.
"Call Detroit, tell dem... BULLSHIT!"
by Hungryhawk on Oct 30, 2009 1:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
still pissed about that slash
that kane took with about 10 seconds left, right when he was winding up for a shot.
The refs were pretty horrible tonight.
I think if anyone was sucking dead men’s balls it was the zebras tonight
Second City Hockey
by Battery on Oct 30, 2009 1:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There were, by my amateur count, four blown offsides calls, two hooks, one slash, and one boarding call missed on Nashville; there was one hook, one slash, and two interference calls missed on the ’Hawks. Most of those missed calls were in the 2nd and 3rd, and if I were the refs I would be worried, because if you miss two periods you might be pregnant.
Was tonight the “BE A REF” promo night in Nashville? It was certainly officiated like four yokels from Hill Country were calling the game.
Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.
by russellguldin on Oct 30, 2009 6:55 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'll argue that
He seemed to be flopping quite a bit. He was lucky to get one interference call as is
by Roos-34 on Oct 30, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i saw that slash...
but then i saw Kane slam his stick on the ice (lame) complaining about the non-call…pretty weak by kaner even though the call should have been made. i saw buff got a game misconduct with 4 secs left. what the fuck. shit game last night all around.
huet played well. keith should have had ward on that goal. guessing Q gives froggy the net tonight against his old mates.
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
by west_fulton on Oct 30, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watching this game was as pleasant as getting sodomized by a parking cone.
www.secondcityhockey.com
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame.
by McClure on Oct 30, 2009 2:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You're not using enough lube
Chicagoan in the Lou.
by Mike Martin on Oct 30, 2009 3:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
huh?
but I thought it was a bad game?
"It takes brains. It's not like a forward, where you can get away with scoring and not play defense. On defense you have to be thinking." - Chris Chelios
by crosscheckyou on Oct 30, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't rec that til I try it.
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
by Trixietrx on Oct 30, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll await your opinion and then form mine. Don’t knock it ’til you try it, or know someone who has, right?
"Call Detroit, tell dem... BULLSHIT!"
by Hungryhawk on Oct 30, 2009 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watching Ovechkin school Atlanta in the first half of the first period was more entertaining than any point of this game.
As much as I loathe Huet, and I do LOATHE Huet, 0he wasn’t at fault at all. That goal was a bad coverage goal, and Keith was late to the party on that one. Big man in front all alone = easy tap in goal. I did like what I saw from Kane’s puck handling for the most part. I really DO think he has the puck on a string, except when Shea Weber gets near him. Then, well, not so much.
by G8K33P3R on Oct 30, 2009 7:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WTF?
Goals = Bad goaltending
NO Goals = Good Goalteanding
I WANT TO SEE
GOALS = GOALTENDING!
Also that ice surface was so shitty lastnight. It looked like it was a pond that has had the sun beating down on it all day.
It's THE GOAALLLIEEE!!!!!
by hauthisis on Oct 30, 2009 8:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Kane
was skating with a lot of confidence last night, and he looked really sharp at times in the offensive zone, albeit against a poor team… sharp should not be at the point, that move makes no sense to me, I know people like buff in front of the net, but when he was wearing #52, he was really effective from the point, and has the potential to be more dangerous from there than from in front of the net on a PP IMO. Put Kopecky in front of the net, maybe he can be of some use there, he’s a big boy too… if nothing else, it limits his turnovers
"It takes brains. It's not like a forward, where you can get away with scoring and not play defense. On defense you have to be thinking." - Chris Chelios
by crosscheckyou on Oct 30, 2009 8:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess we weren't going to win all 6 against Nashville this year
No matter how much better you are than another team, you aren’t going to pick up two points every time.
I’ll count tonight as a win because Flippula is out for eight weeks.
by warrenjm2006 on Oct 30, 2009 8:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
just saw that
the deadWings are just breaking down.
by runningquicklynowhere on Oct 30, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll admit it
I changed the channel and watched a good portion of the Wings/Oilers – Nashville just rips my guts out and then I fall asleep. Watching the Deadwings lose is the next best thing to watching the Hawks win.
"Call Detroit, tell dem... BULLSHIT!"
by Hungryhawk on Oct 30, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else see a potential trend???
Of road ice being soup?
I know that if I am the next team hosting the Hawks I am looking for the heat lamp.
I’m not expecting glass but to my untrained eye it looked a lot like the hockey version of long infield grass.
"The only thing worse than making a mistake is justifying it!"
by Hawkmares on Oct 30, 2009 8:58 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Blah...
…but Huey and Kane were great, and we did have some chances (Sharp, Ladd, and Madden.)
I wonder if Kopecky can do a forward headcount (including injuries) and see how quickly he gets to 12.
PP- whatever you think of Barker, he has the best and quickest shot from the point on the team. First PP, it looked like we had a great chance from the point, but I think Sharp or Bolland was out there with Barker on the bench.
I’m ready to pull the plug on the Roger Ebert wheeze for now. What am I missing with Skille?
Send out the frog again tonight?
by cliffkoroll on Oct 30, 2009 9:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Where's the Buff
He has been a non factor in the last few games…..I think last night he didn’t get much power play time either…
by Bargeman68 on Oct 30, 2009 9:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Buff...
has been doing his things trying to generate chances / wreak havoc. I would rather like to turn all of your attention to Patrick Sharp. This guy has been a ghost since the Edmonton game. Through the past 6 games he has only 1 assist. Patrick Sharp seems to be a playing like a rover, just waiting for a opportunity to present itself to HIM.
Three things from last night: 1- John Madden affirm his worth every single game. 2- When Hjalmarsson looked hurt after blocking that shot, I nearly fainted. Thank God he didnt get hit in the ankle / foot. 3- Shea Weber is awesome
by The Admiral on Oct 30, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
4 weeks can't come fast enough
The sooner we see Toews and Hossa back and no more of Fraser and Eabett the better. Additionally, we won’t be subject to Kopecky on the PP. I’m happy with our record with the AHL guys like Eabett, Fraser, Dowell, etc. getting so much ice time. I knew we would have a couple of games we would struggle to score, I just didn’t think it would be against Nashville. Oh well, get it back tonight and I’ll be happy again.
by Southside Hawks Fan on Oct 30, 2009 9:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Q gets weird on PK and PP
While I have no big complaints about Q as a coach at even strength, it seems like he’s trying to put the shittiest people on the ice sometimes during the PK and PP. He is very fond of placing two of the team’s slowest skaters, Fraser and Sopel, on the PK, and now he has gone to placing Kopecky and forwards at the points on the PP. I just don’t get it. The team just SLOWS DOWN AND STOPS SKATING on the special teams — that’s the problem.
by maxachium27 on Oct 30, 2009 9:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sopel is on the PK because he is a shot blocking machine (if the idiots at Versus notice, well…neon lights and advertisements must have been there to tell them). The slowness, well when he gets in a shooting lane it is all that much longer for his wildebeest ass to get out of the other teams way. I’d be terrified if he were on the PP, but the PK is where he belongs.
by runningquicklynowhere on Oct 30, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sopel
is a shot blocking machine. That’s why he’s out on the PK. You’re not going to have soupy out there and with Seabrook just getting back i don’t think Q wanted to give him too much TOI. You’re not going to have Barker out there(thank you again for another 2 0n 1 you forced Sopel to break up). For all the shit Sopel gets around here he’s a good stay at home defender. And as mentioned ohh so often by Sam(i believe) he didn’t force Tallon to give him that contract.
About the PP though, I can’t F’n Stand to see the fwdes on the point, what does Bolland and Sharp have a Howitzer of a shot we don’t know about? I know they can’t keep the puck in the zone worth a shit at the point. This experiment is a huge failure and Q neds to get that fixed, I suspect it will be done once, Toews and Hossa are back in the Line up
by Roos-34 on Oct 30, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
KOPECKY
Plays good defense (above-average backchecker) and he is a physical player. Can I have that coke now?
by The Admiral on Oct 30, 2009 9:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
so..
keep on the PK, not the PP.
by runningquicklynowhere on Oct 30, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want him on the PP
The question was: “If anyone can explain what he does well, I’ll buy you a coke.”
by The Admiral on Oct 30, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
you are owed a coke
by runningquicklynowhere on Oct 30, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's -4...
…in limited minutes. He won’t be here in March at this rate.
by cliffkoroll on Oct 30, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what a trash of a team....
God! I hate the preds. Next time I hear.. I like it… I love it…I want some more of it… I want to shoot a pred. But mama said there will be days like this mama said.
by redtribe14 on Oct 30, 2009 9:49 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
couldn't even watch much of the first period
though thanks very much to the SCH reader who stepped up and streamed the game for everyone. He deserves the star.
Positives to take away from the game:
- I nearly threw a fit when Hammer was writhing on the ice, but he’s one tough cookie for coming back out to play afterward.
- Good game for Huet, and I suppose it’s nice that we’re able to say our goalie can keep us in games, even though the rest of the team can’t.
- If not for the empty netter (which, come on, doesn’t really count, does it?), this would have been the fifth game out of five where we had just a one goal deficit.
- Ladies and gentlemen, it is true: a game against the Preds CAN keep us on the edge of our seats. I guess.
by chiblackhawks on Oct 30, 2009 9:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
the hawks had a few of these games last year
i remember a 1-0 loss to the blues where the effort and energy were just not there. This team just seems to be subject to take nights off. A difference between a 90-95 point team and a 100+ point team, i suppose. At least this team seems to be able to turn around bad efforts quickly.
I guess the positive you take from Sam’s last paragraph is that as underwhelming as much of the hawk’s play has been this year they are still doing fine in points. You figure if you can earn points playing so-so, when you hit that hot streak you should just rake them in.
Let’s get a win from the habs and then rest for a few days and work on the PP. I think Nov. is going to be the key month for the hawks to demonstrate where they are going to spend most of their time in the conf. standings.
by SLoop on Oct 30, 2009 10:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They also had a game like this last year....
against these very same Preds.
It’s funny you mention that 1-0 Blues game. That was the game I chose to take a large group of friends to. I wanted to expose them to the thrill of Blackhawks hockey. Needless to say, I was a little disappointed.
by The Admiral on Oct 30, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
very weird...
i also had a few friends come in from out of town to show them excited blackhawks hockey. It was so bad that i got too drunk and ended up as one of those douchebags yelling “shoot”. If i were at that game and saw myself yelling all the crap i did that night, i would have punched myself in the nuts. (i guess that game was actually 2-0, there must have been an empty netter)
at least last night was an away game and where i could keep that in the confines of my apartment.
Anyways, after that game the hawks won like 4 out of 6 and beat the sharks in san jose, so i’m not to worried about this team going in a slump. If the past few games is what a slump looks like for this team, i’ll take it.
by SLoop on Oct 30, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Buff took 12 minutes in penalties with four seconds left in the game. Chirping about the goal? Maybe about the slash on Kane? Did they mention anything on the broadcast?
by Dr. Ice on Oct 30, 2009 10:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They just plain looked sloppy.
These are the types of games when great teams separate them selves from the rest. I know its early, and every team has bad games, but If we are suppose to be a great team, we should not lose to the preds. And it seems like we lose alot of games like this.
by redtribe14 on Oct 30, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Is a concussion contagious like the swine flu???
Brought back Seabrook too quickly and now he has infected the whole team.
Luckily Kane’s super human strength has protected him. Thank to the whole team playing concussed , Kaner was able to look good with out elevating his play.
by lilbruiser on Oct 30, 2009 10:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, that sucked.
First Star…the schedule as the Hawks only travel to Nashville one more time this season. Sometimes there are games like this you ask yourself ‘why am I watching this?’. It was putrid beyond explanation.
Kane and Byfuglien were once again the stars for the Hawks offensively as they created a plether of chances around Renne, unfortunately the one they were passing to couldn’t put the puck in the ocean last night.
Seabrook after a tenative first 5 minutes looked steady as always and was probably the Hawks best defender with honourable mentions going to Hjalmarsson, as he is looking more and more like Niklas Kronwall in Detroit.
Huet was spectacular last night as it might have been his best performance of the season. Huet did his best to keep the Hawks in the game, too bad his team wan’t in the mood to reward him for his efforts. Tonight Niemi gets the call, hopefully his mates can reward him with a little more offensive support.
What Kopecky does well? A physical presence on the 4th line and can play all positions and situations. I like Kopecky but his tenure on the PP should be abandoned quickly. Better suited on the PK where he could take Fraser’s spot as he couldn’t be any worse.
Can I have my coke now?
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
by hawks61 on Oct 30, 2009 10:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll admit where I had my doubts about Hjalmarsson last year...
…I’ve been really, really pleased with his play this year.
…and when he went down, I yelled a clearly audible “Aw crap!” across the bar I was at. Props for him getting back in the game.
by KingTalkyTiki on Oct 30, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
luck was on our side...
all but the preds, lost in our divison.
by redtribe14 on Oct 30, 2009 10:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
PP does suck
But so does our effort against a trap. Every weak offense team we play is likely to take this tack against us. It’s not as important as fixing the PP right now, but if we don’t learn to deal with it, it will come back to bite us.
by NKLHD on Oct 30, 2009 11:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully when Quenneville is driving to the game tonight,
he will see a billboard that reads:
Q – Stop Putting Forwards on the Point.
-Harris Bank
Got more soul than a sock with a hole.
by chrome on Oct 30, 2009 12:11 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Love it...
Or maybe the Fidelity green arrow for how to break the trap.
"The only thing worse than making a mistake is justifying it!"
by Hawkmares on Oct 30, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the book
The Jordan Rules which followed the Bulls behind the scenes for one season in the late 80’s (I think) there was one night where the Bulls just walloped Barkley and the 76ers at the old Spectrum and Barkley’s quote after the game was, “that’s one of those games where afterwards you just want to go home and beat your wife”.
That quote came to mind for some reason.
by Scott13 on Oct 30, 2009 12:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
guys whats the word on Eagers come back..
I haven’t heared anything mentioned about this guy???
by redtribe14 on Oct 30, 2009 12:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
For the parts where I was awake
I don’t think Seabs was 100% recovered.
And I also felt that double shifting 20 cent made him look a bit tired, might not be such a good move.
The penalties need to stop, too.
And I still don’t like Barker.
And Huet rocks.
As does the guy who posted a live stream with an awesome link.
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
by Trixietrx on Oct 30, 2009 1:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You Know that
MJThor is gonna take that last line personal right?
haha
by Roos-34 on Oct 30, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, as noted last night
He has received internet punishment from me which requires him to only drink Bud light for a month. I miss my gameday beer and feeds. Even though I don’t need the links, I tend to need the beer.
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
by Trixietrx on Oct 30, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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