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Well, That Was Relatively Quick - Hawks 3, Lanche 2 (Shootout)

At least it wasn't eight or nine rounds deep this time.

Being at the schedule makers' mercy, in an Olympic year, the Hawks met the Avalanche for the third meeting of four total in this young season, and the pace in the first period was quite brisk. The teams traded chances in the early going of the first, and Colin Fraser and Matt Hendricks renewed acquaintances with a tussle, and Colorado opened the scoring on a goal Huet would like to have back. Kyle Cumiskey picked up a rebound off the glass behind the left of Huet, and threw it at the net before Cris was back in position. It was a bad goal, but, again, we've seen worse. Aside from that Huet was rather sharp in the first, aggressively taking away angles and the bottom of the net. His counterpart Craig Anderson was peppered as well, with Patrick Kane finally solving him with a top shelf short side snap shot to tie things up. The Hawks allowed an uncharacteristic 12 shots during the first, while putting 12 shots on goal themselves.

The second was all Colorado, as the Hawks again seemed to have trouble entering the offensive zone and sustaining pressure. Wojtek Wolski scored on a broken play, again to the left of Huet after a giveaway by Andrew Ladd in the neutral zone led to a chance that had the puck pop up in the air, where Cris lost it, and then then again could not get back in position in time to stop Wolski's bid.

Conversely, the third period was all Hawks, with shots throwing rubber at Anderson at every opportunity, and finally getting their forecheck in gear. Cam Barker tied things up on a nice individual effort rushing the puck up ice from his own zone, capped off by beating Anderson again high and to the short side. From there, the Avalanche seemed content to try to escape with the point, but the Hawks kept their foot on the gas, outshooting Colorado 15-3 in the third. It should be noted, however, that two Avalanche shots drew iron during the third, but that won't show up on the scoresheet. Regulation ended tied (AGAIN), and the teams went to overtime (AGAIN).

The attack didn't cease there, as the Hawks put four shots on Anderson in the extra frame, and even had a competent, abbreviated 4-on-3 power-play to end regulation. But it was not to be. So let it be written, so let it be done- these two teams are seemingly forever destined to settle their difference in the skills competition.

Huet was down and out to lead-off man Wolski, but again, he hit the post with his Forsberg-esque half-spin backhand. Toews answered with his now trademark rifling of a shot through the goalie's five-hole. Marek Svatos converted a pretty backhand high and to Huet's stick side to knot the shoot out at 1-1. The last attempt fell to Patrick Sharp, who has had his difficulties in these situations, but made no mistake in dipping his shoulder left, then cutting back right to go high over Anderson's glove for the winner. Hawks 3, Avs 2.

  • Again, the defense pulls the boa constrictor act in the third and overtime, only allowing 3 shots (posts not withstanding) in the final 25 minutes. Even more impressive was that the Hawks managed 19 shots of their own in that time. We've said it before, we'll say it again - you can't shoot the puck if the other team has it the whole time.
  • Andrew Ebbett seems to be getting more comfortable and more noticeable, which is likely a function of not being asked to check and provide physicality, neither of which are his specialty.
  • In spite of the two goofy goals, and getting help from the iron, Huet was again solid tonight, making several key saves.
  • Nice to see Sharp convert on the winner after being seemingly snakebitten the last few games. Hopefully this, along with the approaching return of Marian Hossa will spark one of his now signature scoring binges to compliment his droughts.
Player of the Game
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Tonight's honor goes to Patrick Sharp, who was a factor on all 200 feet of the ice tonight backchecking and contributing offensively assisting on Kane's goal and scoring the shootout clincher.

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Nice Win

I am not sure what has gotten into Fraser. It’s as if Martina Navratilova stole his girlfriend or something. I guess this new aggression is a good thing?

Huet is playing much more aggressive. When the shooter is isolated, he comes out of the net almost attacking the shooter forcing the shot into him or wide. Pipes are not always an accident. Often, hitting the post is a result of well-played angles and aggressive play. That first goal sucked though.

Nice to see Toews, Kane Sharp together. I am sure it won’t stay.

Eager’s presence seems to help. I wonder if he’ll fight. Maybe Fraser is trying to prevent another concussed melon.

by Gbubbs on Nov 12, 2009 12:42 AM CST reply actions  

Good/Bad

Good – I give Cam Barker more shit than probably anyone else on Earth, but I’ll give props where they’re due. His end-to-end rush and goal in the 3rd was tremendous.

Bad – Penalties…If we weren’t a great PK% team, we’d be in serious trouble right now. We seem to always be on the short end of the PP chances.

by hoorock89 on Nov 12, 2009 1:19 AM CST reply actions  

Actually

The Hawks have taken 30 fewer minutes in penalties than their opposition to this point in the year, and even that number is skewed by Ladd’s misconduct for the hit on D’Agostini.

www.secondcityhockey.com

It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame.

by McClure on Nov 12, 2009 1:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Pretty clean game.

The only real idiotic penalty was the trip by Barker in the 1st. Right in front of the official….doh.

by AirTrafficAJ on Nov 12, 2009 1:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Dear Coach Q,

It is time.
Please force Byflugin to stay home or drive to Rockford.

Thank you.

"Let 'em say all those nice things," he says, "but I know my mistakes, and I make plenty of them.-Bobby Orr

by taBruiser on Nov 12, 2009 1:48 AM CST reply actions  

Really?

Should he take his team-leading 6 goals (tied with Sharpie) and 50 hits (2nd on the team) with him?

If there’s anything to complain about with Buff this year it’s how he’s much better suited for his role in front of the goal than playing the point, but that’s really not his fault if he’s doing what he’s told.

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Nov 12, 2009 5:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly.

Guy behind me was saying that Buff “Hadn’t shown up for the start of the season.” False. But then again, this is the guy who last season decided “Aaron Johnson really isn’t impressing me tonight” during AJ’s neverending stretch of healthy scratches.

by hawksfan21 on Nov 12, 2009 6:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree...

…he may have 6 goals but he’s not getting to the net as often as he should and from what I’ve seen he’s got a low hockey IQ; making passes and shots that should NOT be taken. And he’s horrible at the point, worse than Sharp on the PP. Plus he’s WAY overpaid for his role…

by Ryan! on Nov 12, 2009 8:54 AM CST up reply actions  

So you say “I agree” and then disagreed with me. Nice!

by hawksfan21 on Nov 12, 2009 9:05 AM CST up reply actions  

"I agree....

that your an idiot"

I be on my green like Irish Spring.

by chrome on Nov 12, 2009 9:09 AM CST up reply actions  

… I bet the inability to correct that “your” hurts just a tiny little bit.

by ChicoMaki on Nov 12, 2009 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

haha, nice

"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH

by Illini0509 on Nov 12, 2009 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Actually, that was intentional.

That was supposed to be followed by exclamation points with a few 1’s in between to hint at that, but that was replaced by a box with a red x for some reason.

Let’s see you compunerds explain that one.

I be on my green like Irish Spring.

by chrome on Nov 12, 2009 12:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, actually, I was more accurately

summarizing Ryan’s sentiment into a brief and snarky response, thereby noting the absurdity of leading an incongruent thought with a statement of approval!

…idiot.

I be on my green like Irish Spring.

by chrome on Nov 12, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

50 hits ?????

Are you kidding me??……..I have yet to see him “open up his physical game”..I seen him on his ass countless times and his “hits”….well I’ve seen Kaner hit harder. Please the guy doesn’t have the heart right now…he is a fraud living on the Canucks play-off series last year ….when he did give a crap . Someone needs to give him a map to find the front of the. Net

"Let 'em say all those nice things," he says, "but I know my mistakes, and I make plenty of them.-Bobby Orr

by taBruiser on Nov 12, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

It’s not like Mike was lying about the 50 hits… that’s what the official scorers have given him. Granted it’s a pretty subjective stat but I think Buff has been alright so far. 50 hits is also good enough for 13th in the league. Only Brouwer has more.. and it’s just one extra hit.

It’s hard for him to get in front of the net when he’s asked to play the point.

by Killion on Nov 12, 2009 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I asume playing the point on the power play......

but the rest of his shifts……..50 hits? who is keeping count the same guy who counts the tackles our injured middle linebacker has and then multiples by 2.5????

No offense to Mike , but I am in shock.

"Let 'em say all those nice things," he says, "but I know my mistakes, and I make plenty of them.-Bobby Orr

by taBruiser on Nov 12, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought

Buff has kind of disappeared the past few games, but there is no way you can send him down to RFD. If you want to try and move him, you gotta showcase him. Personally, if we do move him (which I am not convinced we should do) I hope to god we send him to an Eastern Conference team, as I don’t want to see him 4-6 times a year against us.

by AirTrafficAJ on Nov 12, 2009 7:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Not to rain in the Huet love fest.....

and he has played “better” lately, but he gives up more weird angle, and fluke goals than any goalie I’ve ever seen. Even the second goal, he was all confused. Sure it happens to the best of them, but this often? When you play in front of a goalie, you get a sense of what he can and cannot bail you out of, and it’s the same when you watch a game. You think silently, “easy stop”. With Huet, I never feel comfortable that he’ll make an easy save, and deep down his teammates have to feel the same way. It’s like a Ringling Bros Circus out there. Lets look at the shootout, shall we? Wolski clearly beat Huet and just hit the post. Svatos scores on a high stick side shot, that was fairly rudimentary and uneventful move. AAAAAAAND Darcy Tucker really didn’t even get any kind of shot off. So, he really didn’t make ANY saves in the shootout. I’ve resorted to the fact that we’re stuck with him, and there is nothing we can really do about it, but I don’t have to like it.

by G8K33P3R on Nov 12, 2009 7:42 AM CST reply actions  

Not quite a love fest . . .

I wouldn’t say I am in love with him. The weird goals get really annoying. Posts are often the result of good D pushing the opposition to the outside, aggressive goaltending and well played angles. I remember when Huet was hot last year, I found him a little unorthodox but effective because he was being aggressive, Sometimes he looked like a circus clown, but if you get the shooter to guess wrong or shoot too soon or too late, you are effective. Am I comfortable, not always, bit the Biron love I heard on the radio this week is asinine. If you think people hate Huet . . .

by Gbubbs on Nov 12, 2009 8:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Not to rain on the Huet criticism fest

but he kept them in that game last night when they were getting outworked and gave them a chance to win it. Just as the D had some good stretches of shutdowns, they also had some REALLY bad turnovers that Huet had to deal with, which for the most part he did. If I had to rank the things that the Hawks did not do well last night, goaltending would not be near the top. He did his part admirably if at times a bit ugly. Shoot outs are crap shoots to me rather than measures of anything meaningful. The home team has won each decision now and it wouldn’t surprise me if the Avs do it in April if we end the same way.

by NKLHD on Nov 12, 2009 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

thank you

talk shit all you want, but he doesn’t make those saves on Svatos and we’re down two goals going into OT, oh wait, that’s right…we’d have lost. which we didn’t.

by Kevin Kujawa on Nov 12, 2009 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Here we go again with Huet.

The last time I checked a 2.21 GAA is pretty fucking good. That first goal that he gave up was a crazy bounce off the glass that Cumiskey just took a whack at and lucky for him it hit Huet in the back and went in. The 2nd goal was a result of a brutal turnover at the blueline coinciding with some shotty defensive play in front of Huet.
The shootout was what it usually is-a crapshoot. Huet must be doing something right as Wolski is 0-for-3 against him, but is 17-for-26 (65.4%) against every other goaltender for his career. Svatos just put on a Semin-like slick move to score that is pretty unstoppable with a backhand like that as I challenge you to find a goaltender that would stop that. And Tucker’s shot was stopped as it wasn’t pretty in the way of style points but it was stopped and that’s all that matters.
Huet’s numbers this season are 7-4-1 .901 SV% 2.21 GAA, which is what the Hawks were expecting out of Huet.

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

You read his teammates not being comfortable with him

To me, it seems more like he’s not comfortable with his D. He darts around like he expects his D-men to get beat to the puck. He’s been coming further out of the net to meet attackers. I would say this new-found agression is a sign he’s afraid the skaters won’t make a defensive stop, so he has to do it alone.

Can I prove it? Nope. But it makes just as much sense as your claim.

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Nov 12, 2009 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Where did I say I “read” anything? I’m saying, as player who has been both a goalie, and a defenseman in front of a questionable goalie, I know how my teammates and I felt. When goalies are letting players do things like bank shots in from behind the net, you get frustrated and overcompensate.

by G8K33P3R on Nov 12, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Fuck. First, NHL players’ confidence in other NHL-calibre players might work a little differently than it does in beer leagues, no?

Second, that goal wasn’t Huet’s fault. Both Sopel and Barker over-committed to the shooter. Huet was where he should have been, above the blue challenging the shooter. Without both d-man on the shot, Cumiskey was left to skate to the puck completely unimpeded and bank one in. Huet might have been able to move back a bit more quickly, but he’s skating backwards and trying to hug the post basically blind.

If you hate Huet, go ahead and hate him … but for the sake of some of us on here, hate him for reasons that make sense.

by ChicoMaki on Nov 12, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

He was all confused? An Avs forward had the puck in traffic 12 feet in front of him—after a horrible turnover that had our d scrambling. The guy sends off a shot that hits a Hawk defender and bounces directly onto Wolski’s stick on the complete other side of the net. What the hell do you want from him? Are you serious?

by ChicoMaki on Nov 12, 2009 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

not to get all purist and shit

can we stop saying “he beats the goalie” when the shot hits the pipe. he didn’t beat the goalie. if he did, it would be in the back of the net.
And i’m not even a goalie. (its especially annoying to hear an announcer say it)

i think its its funny how different viewers/attendees see the game completely different. After perusing 5 different articles about the game last time, the gamut ran from “Hawks dominate the 1st and 2nd” to “the Hawks were lucky to win this” to “the Hawks didn’t deserve this”

And with that: it was the first game this year that, with each shot, i felt confident Huet was going to make the Save.

by WirtzGMnomore on Nov 12, 2009 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

it was the first game this year that, with each shot, i felt confident Huet was going to make the Save.

Seconded.

by hawksfan21 on Nov 12, 2009 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Agree

Even with the two strange goals, I felt like this was far-and-away Huet’s best game of the season so far.

by Dr. Ice on Nov 12, 2009 10:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I AM a goalie, and if he hits the post he DOES beat the goalie. He just doesn’t SCORE on the goalie.

by G8K33P3R on Nov 12, 2009 10:30 AM CST up reply actions  

How does one prove that if the shot was an inch inside the post, the goalie doesn’t save it??

And i’m not talking exclusively…obviously there are occasions where you can see broad daylight between the goalie and the pipe and the shot misses….or woooould it…?

but…i can live with being disputed

by WirtzGMnomore on Nov 12, 2009 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

All I’m saying is, no one knows it’s going to hit the post til it actually does, and the shot is VERY close to being in the net. If the shooters skill was able to get the shot past the goalie, and it is within 2 inches of going in, you’ve beaten the goaltender. I’ve never thought of a shot off the post as anything more than luck from a goalie’s point of view. It’s similar to a defensman sliding in behind me and making a save I couldn’t. I was beaten, and had no affect on the shot staying out of the net.

by G8K33P3R on Nov 12, 2009 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

i love

how bantam A goalies get to comment on how they’ve discovered the truths of being a goalie in the NHL. the fact of the matter is that saying Huet played poorly last night is not true. style points or not, he kept us in the game and eventually won it. end of story. what does he need to do to shut up all the haters?

by Kevin Kujawa on Nov 12, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

that

was not supposed to sound so asshole-ish and mean. i get excited sometimes. i guess it’s just my nature.

by Kevin Kujawa on Nov 12, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

I used the beat the goalie all the time with shots that went six inches wide.

I was quite the sniper.

by Dr. Ice on Nov 12, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Shit. I’ll read til the end next time. Yes. Like Ice says.

by ChicoMaki on Nov 12, 2009 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

So from now on, too, every time a puck goes 2 or 3 feet wide of the net and the goalie makes a stab at it, I’ll claim he was beaten.

By the way, are you a goalie? I haven’t picked up on that yet.

by ChicoMaki on Nov 12, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I, too, am a goalie,

And I beat him because I made him miss!

Well, I was a goalie. Now, I fit a little too snugly in my chair and drink beer amazed at being able to have a computer on my lap and commenting on a game that has long passed me by. I’ll be damned if Coach Gervais was right.

by Gbubbs on Nov 12, 2009 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with you

on the silent “easy stop” thought and some uneasiness as to what he should stop, I completely disagree with you on the shootout.

    Wolski made his move but if you watch again Huet used his body to keep pushing Wolski wide enough so that Wolski couldn’t complete his move and hence the post….. Svatos… I mean shit that was his move. Feign a shot glove side and roof the fucker as high as possible which he did, tip of the cap to that move. as for Tucker. Well how can you blame Huet on that, that’s not on him to make sure a shot gets off on him to make a save

by Roos-34 on Nov 12, 2009 8:13 AM CST reply actions  

I agree with

You about Wolski,good goaltending by Huet by pushing him further out…..Svatos had a nice move,and hats off to him….overall i think Huet was solid last night

by csm on Nov 12, 2009 8:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I don’t blame Huet on Tucker’s gaffe, I’m just saying he really didn’t do much but flop. I guess after watching the 11 round Caps/Isles shootout, I was spoiled by some real nice shootout saves.

by G8K33P3R on Nov 12, 2009 8:42 AM CST up reply actions  

are you a goalie?

by Geoffhawk on Nov 12, 2009 1:03 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Better question

Are you now, or have you ever been, a professional goalie starting in the best league on the planet?

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Nov 12, 2009 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Nooo........

but my 5 hole has a speed limit sign

"Let 'em say all those nice things," he says, "but I know my mistakes, and I make plenty of them.-Bobby Orr

by taBruiser on Nov 13, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I was up till

5am watchin this game…the ahwks had their ups and downs…first period even….second period the avs were the better team…..but the third period is when the Hawks dominated again,for the second straight game,loved it!!!and obviously they dominated the overtime…..i thought Huet was solid again,Kane was great again,he back checked,he razzled dazzled,scored a nice goal,the complete game…Toews was his usual sharp self,and even though i hate him,hats off to Cam Barker,wicked goal,and he was ok defensively,didn’t have any of those stupid turnovers….i hope the hawks can put together a few more wins before the big road trip……

And obviously,i dont wanna sound like a broken record,but u have to find a way to sign Kane this offseason,along with Keith and Toews….i’m seriously u guys

by csm on Nov 12, 2009 8:15 AM CST reply actions  

Yes

Seriously(like when cartman says i’m seriously you guys on south park)

by csm on Nov 12, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

He did say he is seriously.

/brain asplodes from existential conundrum

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on Nov 12, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Still pretty early to be drinking like that.

by ChicoMaki on Nov 12, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed about Kane. That kid looks like he has the puck on a string every single night.

by G8K33P3R on Nov 12, 2009 8:43 AM CST reply actions  

That

sounds about right

by csm on Nov 12, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

2 More Points

1. Knucklehead Barker with one of the top plays for ANY Hawk this year, when we really needed it. Does this not speak to the kid’s potential?

2. Huey has been good, not great, lately, but that’s all he needs to be. His last 7-8 games are as good a stretch as he’s enjoyed since coming to town.

3. At some point, 20 cent will hit a dry patch and the hand-wringers will reemerge, but over the past month, he looks like he has moved a full notch up, joining the NHL elite, right in front of our eyes.

by cliffkoroll on Nov 12, 2009 9:02 AM CST reply actions  

What? It ended before sunrise?

Although it wasn’t one of the Hawks best efforts we’ve seen, they did manage a way to right themselves and come away with a victory which is all that matters and are now 8-2-1 at home this young season as well as sitting atop (all alone) the Central Division.

- Special thanks to Sharpie for ending it before the Hawks engaged with the Avalanche in another marathon, hopefully this just kickstarted one of Sharpie’s goal-scoring streaks.
- Speaking of OT, this year the Hawks seem destined to reach a shootout everytime out which is, however, better than last season’s mantra of taking a stupid penalty late in the 3rd or OT and lose on an OT goal.
- As for Barker, where did that come from? Did he hit his head and someone tell him he’s Bobby Orr? That was one of the nicest end-to-end rushes by a defenceman I’ve seen in a while.
- As great as Kane was last night he needs to finish off more wide-open nets like the one late in the 1st as those are one’s he can’t miss, although his goal was a pretty sick.
- For those who think the Avalanche are going to drop considerably in the standings, give your head a shake as they’re going nowhere. Will they win their division? Probably not, but will they make the playoffs? A resounding yes as they’re a pretty fast skating team with an incredible goaltender. If any team is going to drop considerably is Columbus. Any team ranked dead last in team GAA is probably not going to have a successful season, not to mention that things can’t be too good at the camp when the team serves up an egg on the coaches’ 1000th game milstone losing 9-1. Ouch!

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 9:28 AM CST reply actions  

Craig Anderson is

playing well, but an incredible goaltender? c’mon. if he was wearing the indianhead, no one would be confident heading into the post-season with him. he’s had a good start. good for Craig, but seeing all those shots and playing all those games has already started to chip the paint.

by Kevin Kujawa on Nov 12, 2009 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree. He’s an average goalie playing a very good stretch. You don’t travel around the league like he has being “incredible”.

by G8K33P3R on Nov 12, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

I think

Anderson is a really good goalie….and he is savin the Avs this season….as for the AVS they started off really hot,but i think they are 2-3-1- in their last 6,its a long season,so we’ll see what happens,but i do think they will make the playoffs,first seed in the west?definately not

by csm on Nov 12, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

I’m still not convinced the Avs will stick around for the playoffs. It’s not unheard of but I think they’re playing well above where they should be and a return to earth is coming. Anderson’s only played 31 games in a season before.. he’s already at 18 for this year. Their young players could start to fade as well and their already being outshot in just about every game…

We’ll see though

by Killion on Nov 12, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

if the avs make the playoffs

i will not want to see them. how many overtimes do you think we’ll get in a single round? no thanks.

by chiblackhawks on Nov 12, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

A reply to all on the Anderson/ Avalanche debate

Sure Anderson has bounced around a couple of teams but the main reason why was because Khabibulin was ahead of him in Chicago and Vokoun in Florida and that’s precisely why he’s in Colorado today as finally he has received, and earned, his opportunity to become a #1 netminder on an NHL club.
As far as where or how far the Avalanche will go is up for debate and will all season but in my mind they do remind of the 2003 Anahiem Ducks. A combination of a very young and unproven team and head coach that maximized their talents and acheived great success ultimately ended in Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals. Will the Avs’ go that far? Doubtful, but they do draw some similar parrallels such as Sacco and Babcock as head coach and Giguere and Anderson. There are others I could list but you get my point. This team is very fast, young, and hungry (maybe they don’t know any better) which leads me to believe that this team will be playing game 83 come the 17th of April.

As Matt said, we’ll see though.

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 5:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I think this was actually the player of the game

No disrespect to Sharp, but it seems to me this is what saved us about three times late.

by GenPabloSecobar on Nov 12, 2009 9:43 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

Hee heee

"Let 'em say all those nice things," he says, "but I know my mistakes, and I make plenty of them.-Bobby Orr

by taBruiser on Nov 12, 2009 10:12 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree...

do you think we could get him a long term contract?

by GirlHawk on Nov 12, 2009 6:08 PM CST up reply actions  

2 Decent Teams Get Scalped by Our Boys...

…mediocre team tomorrow night but there might be some tired Hawks legs on the ice…a character test fo’ shizzle. Two more things…anyone meeting before tomorrow’s game? I’ll be @ Boundry on Division (10% off your tab w/Hawks or Bulls’ gameday tickets). Also, where do our fearless leaders sit? I wanna have a beer w/you fellas.

...anarchy burger, hold the government!

by EdisonParkVinnie on Nov 12, 2009 11:25 AM CST reply actions  

Section 321, Row 2, seat 13

www.secondcityhockey.com

It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame.

by McClure on Nov 12, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

section 321...

…just renamed ‘the strip’…see you there.

...anarchy burger, hold the government!

by EdisonParkVinnie on Nov 12, 2009 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

If it’s getting called anything, it’s getting called “Managua”.

www.secondcityhockey.com

It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame.

by McClure on Nov 13, 2009 1:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Your dime, your dance…‘Managua’ it is!

...anarchy burger, hold the government!

by EdisonParkVinnie on Nov 13, 2009 10:07 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Unless I find a cheap ticket..

I’m probably not going.. but I’ll let you know

by Killion on Nov 12, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

It’s sad to see how the Chicago/ Toronto rivalry has lost some of it’s bite. They need to play each other more often which begs the question why can’t we exchange some games against Nashville, Pheonix, and Minnesota for a few more against Montréal and Toronto? I think the NHL needs to rekindle some of these longtime rivalries as they were the foundation of games in which the league built itself off of.

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 6:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd rather see the season expanded by 12 games

6 games (3 home, 3 away) vs. each divisional team- 24
4 games (2 home, 2 away) vs. each conference team- 40
2 games (1 home, 1 away) vs. each non-conference team- 30
Total- 94 games.

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Nov 12, 2009 7:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it’s long enough right now as is. Dropping a few conference games in order to have each team visit every rink across the league would be a good option though.
Maybe bring back an 84-game schedule where you play your division 6 times a year but everyone else only twice, which does make a lot of sense but it won’t happen for a while as the Wings tried back in 2005 to get that type of schedule but instead we got that horrific 8-games a year against your divisional foe. Thank goodness they got rid of that debauchery.

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 9:44 PM CST up reply actions  

What a difference it is with both eager and toews in the line up. I think it makes over all line combinations alot more favorable for tha hawks and will highlight the importance of who plays on what line and with who(although toews looks pretty well adjusted already)

Pain is a good reminder you are alive

by Bad Ass Burish on Nov 12, 2009 11:30 AM CST reply actions  

I need less Bufligylin and .more Eager

One is a rock head who skates hits and the other is a burn-out who bogarts the hits…….and I have nothing to back this up either

"Let 'em say all those nice things," he says, "but I know my mistakes, and I make plenty of them.-Bobby Orr

by taBruiser on Nov 12, 2009 11:47 AM CST reply actions  

You've made your point about Buff already.

You won’t get many more responses because we usually just skip your comments.

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by Original Six on Nov 12, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

.more cowbell

I be on my green like Irish Spring.

by chrome on Nov 12, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

every once and a while

you get a comment that you just can’t pass up

"If you're scared, go buy a dog" - Stacey King

by Hack on Nov 12, 2009 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Funny.

I be on my green like Irish Spring.

by chrome on Nov 12, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m intrigued by the idea of “bogarting the hits” though…

by Killion on Nov 12, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

There are few things as entertaining

as someone using a word in direct opposition with its definition. I mean, using a word incorrectly is one thing, but the exact opposite, really?

"If you're scared, go buy a dog" - Stacey King

by Hack on Nov 12, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

thank you ......a long lost phrase

"Let 'em say all those nice things," he says, "but I know my mistakes, and I make plenty of them.-Bobby Orr

by taBruiser on Nov 12, 2009 1:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Why do I feel this is the young-- up and comin suck hole message board

How do you really tolerate the lack of effort from the a number of players who are still living on last years accomplishments?

"Let 'em say all those nice things," he says, "but I know my mistakes, and I make plenty of them.-Bobby Orr

by taBruiser on Nov 12, 2009 2:20 PM CST reply actions  

Because us Generation Y'ers

Don’t do anything but want recognition for EVERYTHING….

You know that scene where a bunch og guys walk into a bar and the record player comes to a screeching hault and there’s that uncomfortable silence?

Ya that’s YOU we’re all staring at

by Roos-34 on Nov 12, 2009 2:29 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Sounds like I walked in on a sausage fest.....

……………………….sorry I had to take the shot.
Still seems like the fire from last year hasn’t arrived ..yet. We had to go thru a Coaching change….a Kaner benching and Buf benching …. a A.Johnson injury…a Sopel injury …the call ups played with "fire’ …..that fired spread and it was dam fun to watch.Jus don’t see that fire from the team ….maybe a few individuals but not as a team.

"Let 'em say all those nice things," he says, "but I know my mistakes, and I make plenty of them.-Bobby Orr

by taBruiser on Nov 12, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

They’re winning.. that’s all you can ask right now.

If they play with the intensity you want to see in November then they may burn out by February. If the Hawks don’t step things up later, when things really matter, then we’ll have a problem. Right now I think we’re OK.

by Killion on Nov 12, 2009 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

10-5-2. Leading the division in early November. Relax. For. Fuck’s. Sake.
The passion will return and be at it’s highest point come March (after the Olympics) and on into April, May, and hopefully June.
I like to think the Hawks have already dealt with enough trama given the glorious summer they had this wonderful off-season that wouldn’t and couldn’t end fast enough. Please enjoy the fruitfulness that the current Hawks team is giving us as it wasn’t too long ago I was watching the last game of the season with my Hawks jersey on cheering for them just so they’d have a 20-win season. Remeber those days?

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 6:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Last years accomplishments?

Not exactly.

(reminder: The Hawks played exactly 0 games with their full roster this season.)
Now should I provided statistical evidence to prove you wrong about Kane’s play, or should I just pick out one time when I was watching that he did something good and then you come back with a story about one time when he did something bad. We could do that all day and I’ll still win out. Even Steve Konroyd pointed out his excellent forecheck last night. He used the telestrator and slowed it down just for you.

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by Original Six on Nov 12, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

That wasn't slow motion

That was Kane disinterestedly skating slow because he didn’t have the puck………..how could you not see that?!

"If you're scared, go buy a dog" - Stacey King

by Hack on Nov 12, 2009 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

these announcers are starting to sound like company spokesmen.......

“Wat a great circle Buff is makin around and around and around………wat a great shift!!!” ‘\
“wat great charactor Frazier has…..” Years ago Tallon woyld have pointed out "the guy can’t fight his way out of a wet paper bag"

"Let 'em say all those nice things," he says, "but I know my mistakes, and I make plenty of them.-Bobby Orr

by taBruiser on Nov 12, 2009 3:17 PM CST up reply actions  

who the hell else is going to answer the bell, if not Fraser?

Burish is out, and you can bet management wants Eager to stay away from the head shots, at least for now. Buff? He’s more valuable on the ice than off it, despite what you think. One of the d-men? No thanks. He held his own, at least.

by gmh on Nov 12, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

If Buf has Fraser heart .....

Then Buf becomes a force and Fraser ….would be dead….I am exhausted

"Let 'em say all those nice things," he says, "but I know my mistakes, and I make plenty of them.-Bobby Orr

by taBruiser on Nov 12, 2009 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

A handful of people openly debate your opinion on Buff’s play … and this is what you conclude? You seriously feel you have a better feel for Buff’s level of effort than Q?

by ChicoMaki on Nov 12, 2009 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes .....

I am a very keen observer of laziness………you should see my employees!!

"Let 'em say all those nice things," he says, "but I know my mistakes, and I make plenty of them.-Bobby Orr

by taBruiser on Nov 12, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope you won’t feel slighted by this “young— up and comin suck hole” when I say that I’ll trust to Q’s judgment more than yours, despite your obvious qualifications.

Buff’s not Cam Neely, he never will be. His contract is bigger than it should be, which has nothing at all to do with him, but he’s in only his second year as a forward at the NHL level … and I really don’t think people factor that in enough when they talk about his occasional poor positioning. He’s still a defenseman playing the wing.

If you’re putting the team’s troubles on one guy, or two, or whatever, I think you’re missing a bigger picture. Three things have kept us from being among the league leaders so far—injuries, the power play, and the early play of our goalies. That’s it.

by ChicoMaki on Nov 12, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

ok

……next up Toronto

"Let 'em say all those nice things," he says, "but I know my mistakes, and I make plenty of them.-Bobby Orr

by taBruiser on Nov 12, 2009 3:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Riiiggghhht, I’m beginning to see your argument now.

by ChicoMaki on Nov 12, 2009 5:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Friggin' Killjoy

This team, basically minus last year’s best player and, for stretches, others like Toews, is 10-5-2. A couple breaks and they could easily be better still. It’s hard to criticize the night-in night-out effort of the Hawks overall.

WTF? So you’re George Patton or something- never satisfied, prowling, stalking behind the bench. Already this year, minor bad patches have led to unleashing Chicken Little both here and in the press, yet, when the team is grinding out two points a night, you dismiss positive posts as shameless homerism.

Maybe something special is happening here. What’s wrong with that? We still gotta nitpick Buff (or, depending on the day, Sharp, Kopecky, Ebbett, Huey, Auntie Em) in every post?

God knows the cap limits personnel moves. For the most part, the Hawks will sink or swim with hands currently on deck. This includes Buff who, frankly, has had a good year so far.

by cliffkoroll on Nov 12, 2009 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Ok....I see the beating will continue......

is buff playing at the same level as last year??——remove his time on the PP. This includes his play-off run.

"Let 'em say all those nice things," he says, "but I know my mistakes, and I make plenty of them.-Bobby Orr

by taBruiser on Nov 12, 2009 6:04 PM CST up reply actions  

No, he's not

He’s playing better for the most part, IMO.

If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning

by Trixietrx on Nov 12, 2009 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

The answer is yes, easily.

.Buff was invisiable for vast swaths of last year, and was bouyed by a big series against Calgary. No question his trajectory from a year ago is upward.

If the Hawks move any top-10 forward for a(nother) shutdown d-man or savior goalie, it will be a big mistake. The Hawks offensive strength is their depth.

Bide your time till the next two-game losing streak before you start chucking guys overboard.

BTW, great Bobby Orr quote. I hope every player has this mentality.

It’s great to have high standards, but you haven’t lost sight of how far this team has come in 2 years, have you?

by cliffkoroll on Nov 12, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Not chucking him.....

motivating him……c’mon we let players slack and wait for them to turn it on when they are ready…..I don’t think so

"Let 'em say all those nice things," he says, "but I know my mistakes, and I make plenty of them.-Bobby Orr

by taBruiser on Nov 13, 2009 12:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Another thing that’s holding us back is our offence (10th in the West and 15th overall) and that we’re the only team in the entire league without a multiple goal-scorer in any game. That’s right, nobody has scored at least 2 goals in any game so far this season. Unfathomable to think at season’s start.

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 6:17 PM CST up reply actions  

sometimes I can't log in

because the site can’t find the OpenID server. FML. I’m sorry to have missed such a scintillating back-and-forth on two of our favorite topics.

Pretty goal aside, Barker backchecking into his own zone still makes me nervous as hell sometimes.

by gmh on Nov 12, 2009 2:54 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I had that problem last night, hence I couldn’t make it for the Game Thread last night. The first one I’ve missed all season. I hope it doesn’t happen again.

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Nov 12, 2009 6:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Best part about this article...

The fact that you called them “The Lanche”. I thought I was the only one who still called them that. Whoever started calling them the “Avs” is a jerk. An “Av” could be anything!

(smiley face with sunglasses)

by ProgMichael on Nov 12, 2009 6:33 PM CST reply actions  

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