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Have Another Bowl And Shut Up: Hawks 1 - Nucks 0

Yep, that's directed at all the yappy Canucks fans we've encountered this evening.  Let's review:  You caught the Hawks on a second of a back-to-back.  You had our backup goalie who hadn't played in weeks.  You've played twice this week.  You played your game to a T.  You were at home.  And you lost.  So, to quote the great orator Moe Siczlak, "Pipe down, rubadub."

Was this a vintage Hawks performance?  No, it most certainly was not.  The Hawks were second to most loose pucks, lost most of the battles on the boards, and were suckered into the gameplan Vancouver wanted to employ.  But on these kind of road games, you find a way, and tonight, that way was Antii Niemi.  He was spectacular, and a lot of the 30 shots he turned away were of the prime scoring chance variety.  Didn't matter.  It's a confidence builder for all.  We know Huet can't start 60+ games, but after tonight, Q will not hesitate to throw Antii-goal the odd start.  Sure, there was luck involved.  Ehrhoff rang a post, Bernier should have lifted his breakaway, that odd bouncer could have gone anywhere.  But at the end of the night, there's a goose egg up there.  

Considering the trip and last night, there aren't too many Hawks I want to light up.  Buff took an dumb and lazy penalty, but he'll do that.  The Sharp-Versteeg axis was invisible, but that hardly matter because You-Know-Who arrives Wednesday.  You get these wins how you get them.

It's now official, where there's a Kane and Toews, there's a chance.  Though they didn't create many shots, they had a few shifts where they toyed with the Canucks.  They created the goal, Kane with sweet dish to 51 Phantom (but go ahead and tell me why he sucks, because I'm dying to hear it) who then fed it in front for Bickell to poke home.  It's a shame, because Bickell deserves to stay up.  But with Fraser's new-found proficiency at the dot, he can't be sent down, so Bickell will be headed back to The Rock.  But on any other team, he's earned an elongated stay.  

Other than that, there's not much to say.  In my mind, the Hawks are the best team in hockey right now, but Wednesday will settle that.  Oh, have we mentioned our best all-around player will suit up for the first time Wednesday?  The Hawks started out last Circus Trip like this, and then biffed the last three.  But they didn't get a jump like they will when Marian Hossa takes the ice.  One win out of the last three makes this a very good trip.  Two make it a great one.  Sweeping all of them makes it a punch-yourself-in-the-genitals-it'll-still-feel-great trip.  Do that, then.

  Player Of The Game

Is there any doubt?

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Okay, he doesn't have this on his mask anymore, but it was ace when he did.  It's Antii "Assassins Creed" Niemi. 

Reminder:  Join us at Whirlaway for  Wednesday's game.  There'll be food, there'll be booze, there'll be silliness.  What more do you want?

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nubadub- nice

After Niemi, Soup was the star. Great scoring chance in 1st, beautiful seam pass to Kane in 2nd, assist, and some defense to boot.

Outshot, but not outplayed, methinks. How many times did we miss the f-ing net? Also, played field position in the 3rd.

Wouldn’t say Buff bogarted the hits (see Seebs, Ladd), but he got his share.

Kane’s scoring drought is attributable to his laziness.

Good team playing well and coming up empty in their own building- datsa spicy meatball revenge.

by cliffkoroll on Nov 23, 2009 4:20 AM CST reply actions  

I love sarcasm.

Yeah, Kane was a real piece of crap last night.
I don’t know if that kid will ever make it in this league…because he seemingly doesn’t care. We’d better trade him now while his value is still pretty high. I CAN’T believe I own a jersey of his. What the FUCK was I thinking!?!?!

"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon

by HawkVision on Nov 23, 2009 8:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Aside from the obvious Niemi, I thought Keith had an outstanding game with a very active stick. And Seabrook just put every blue jersey on their ass, it’s so much fun to watch him play.

Also, it’s going to be great to add Hossa to the lineup, but it’s going to take him a while to get his timing back so we’re going to have to beat the Sharks with the team we put on the ice tonight essentially.

by Scott13 on Nov 23, 2009 5:42 AM CST reply actions  

Can't wait til Wed.

Does the Whirlaway allow underage people? It’d be a long haul for me, but it sounds like fun, I’d just need to find a DD.

If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning

by Trixietrx on Nov 23, 2009 5:43 AM CST reply actions  

Another annoying thing about Vancouver......

is their ability to bring up people you just want to sllap. If it isn’t the ever annoying " I got my name and look at the WB" Taylor Piatt, who they then lose only to replace him with the just as 90210-ish Tanner Glass.

Does Vancouver have a farm team or a casting agent.

On to California!!!!!!

"I can't be held responsible for what I personally tell my goons to do...."- C. Montgomery Burns

by yahoodi on Nov 23, 2009 5:58 AM CST reply actions  

Hey guys, I'm new to the site.

I signed up just to ask: Does anyone know exactly when Hossa is coming back?

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on Nov 23, 2009 6:39 AM CST reply actions  

Welcome.

Who is “Hossa”? Get your teams right, pal.

"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon

by HawkVision on Nov 23, 2009 8:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Hopefully....

You caught thor’s sarcasm
if so funny
if not, ya really missed it

September 26, 2007 The day a Franchise was reborn.

by Roos-34 on Nov 23, 2009 8:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I refer you to the title my post above in my reply to cliff

and in particular, I’m quite the fan of thor’s brand.

"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon

by HawkVision on Nov 23, 2009 8:56 AM CST up reply actions  

more like...

antti “walter sobchak” niemi.

“MARK IT ZERO!”

by a name i call myself on Nov 23, 2009 6:55 AM CST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Let’s review: You caught the Hawks on a second of a back-to-back. You had our backup goalie who hadn’t played in weeks. You’ve played twice this week. You played your game to a T. You were at home. And you lost.

To rookies, too.

Hawks are finding ways to win. I like it.

by chiblackhawks on Nov 23, 2009 7:04 AM CST reply actions  

"To rookies, too."

What?

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on Nov 23, 2009 7:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I get it now.

He was adding on to the last quoted sentence fragment with a fragment of his own.

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on Nov 23, 2009 8:33 AM CST up reply actions  

i’m pretty sure there was a misspelling. It probably should have read “two rookies too”.

Or maybe he wanted to salute the contribution of the Denver baseball team with “to Rockies too”. Or maybe it was the last word that was misspelled and it should have read, “to rookies loo”, which is pretty self explanatory.

by Scott13 on Nov 23, 2009 8:53 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe Bickell and Niemi are the rookies being referred to here? As they were the difference makers?

by hawksfan21 on Nov 23, 2009 8:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm gonna say 'duh'

I thought Thor was being ‘deliberately obtuse’ to begin with, and thought I’d add to the ‘confusion’. Sorry.

by cliffkoroll on Nov 23, 2009 9:00 AM CST up reply actions  

We should have made a bet with these Nucks fans. They win and we have to send them Chicago’s finest: deep dish pizza and corrupt politicians. We win and they have to send us their best: decriminalized marijuana and a jersey design that changes every 2 years. Then nobody would care if these silly posts made any sense.

by hawksfan21 on Nov 23, 2009 9:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Why not cut out the unnecessary game here and just buy weed from a Chicago politician?

by Scott13 on Nov 23, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

You get these wins how you get them.

nuff said…keep it rolling!

by Ken Doll Type on Nov 23, 2009 7:16 AM CST reply actions  

I thought

THE NIEMINATOR was amazing last night,obviously the big star of the game….Buff,well what else can be said,had some nice hits,actually moved his feet again,tried to skate,had some nice poke checks and what not,he gave the same effort as in the Calgary game,and thats basically all i want from Buff,if he scores,thats just gravy…Bickell looked good again,he is big,and can skate,and is coordinated,any chance we can change him into a defensive man,and trade barker?i think he moves better than Barker….I thought Kane was good,not great like the last couple games,but good,he set up the score….

and the 2 4 on 4’s were funny,on teh first one,the Hawks dominated the puck,passing and cycling and all,and on the second they wouldn’t allow Vancouver to get out of their own zone

GO HAWKS!!!!

by csm on Nov 23, 2009 7:36 AM CST reply actions  

our goalies ability to grasp pucks flying at them...

far exceeds their grasp of the english language.

Check out niemi’s post-game comments, it’s painful. But, for the kind of performance he turned in last night, all his responses could be fart noises and i wouldn’t care.

by SLoop on Nov 23, 2009 7:37 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

LOL!

You are right,their english isn’t there yet,but u are also right about the fart noises too,LOL!!

Niemi looked good,and even though the Hawks were outshot,they had a few quality chances,Brouwer missed and open net,and Kane couldn’t lift the puck agains Bobby Lu…but all in all a win is a win,3 games in 4 nights especially on the road equals very very tired legs,so hats off to the Hawks….i think you can say that the circus trip is a success,they will be at least .500 at the end of the trip,and that is huuuuuuuuge!!!!

by csm on Nov 23, 2009 7:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Pure gold

wait what?

by pepe126 on Nov 23, 2009 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

As all mentioned above.......

A gutsy win!

"Let 'em say all those nice things," he says, "but I know my mistakes, and I make plenty of them.-Bobby Orr

by taBruiser on Nov 23, 2009 8:56 AM CST reply actions  

Alright lets play GM again

Since there isn’t a game till wednesday!!How bout we trade Buff,looks like Bickell does exactly what Buff does,just younger and cheaper

by csm on Nov 23, 2009 9:04 AM CST reply actions  

LOL!!!

hahahaha….good one!!i was just messing around,gon for the sarcasm angle like thor,buuuut,i guess cause i’m sorta new here u didn’t get it….thats ok…the t-shirt kicks ass though!!!hahahahahaha

by csm on Nov 23, 2009 9:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Hahahahaha

you are right… i apologize…if i were seriously playin GM i would admit it,but i’m not,just goofin around

by csm on Nov 23, 2009 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Great job by Antii

The Hawks looked pretty pooped in my opinion and still beat a team full of assholes. I have this hate building for the Canucks not just because they pull hair, there is just something about those pricks that doesn’t sit right with me, but i digress.

Question, what the fuck was Eager’s lazy ass doing in the 3rd when they needed a change and he didn’t bring the puck one foot closer to the red line and took an icing call? Is he rooming with Buff?

I’d have to say that Soupy had a great game.

and the time has come to see this machine of a goal scorer in Hossa, can’t wait.

On a side note, where can I find corsi ratings by game? I can’t seem to find it on behind the net, anyone know?

jt

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Nov 23, 2009 9:29 AM CST reply actions  

I don't want to get too giddy over one great start

but I figured our backup goalie was one of the few legitimate weaknesses of the team. If Neimi can even come close to maintaining that level of play, even that may turn out to be another strength.

Alright, fuck it. I’m giddy. Huet’s playing great, Neimi looked awesome, Kane is a monster, Toews can’t lose a faceoff – and Hossa’s coming back.

We are traveling at ludicrous speed.

I be on my green like Irish Spring.

by chrome on Nov 23, 2009 9:38 AM CST reply actions  

Its great to go 3-0

on the road trip so far,but i wouldn’t get too giddy….there are still 3 games left on the trip,imo the trip is already a success because they will be at least .500 on the trip,but it would be nice to see them get a win or two or three with these last three games….

on another note,is anyone afraid that Hossa may not be all that good?You know,that new Chi-Town curse?When a new star arrives in town he doesn’t seem that good of a player,you know,the Cutler syndrome….and even though he had a nice rookie season it seems as though Derrick Rose has that syndrome as well

by csm on Nov 23, 2009 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

No.

That’s a stupid, superstitious belief.

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on Nov 23, 2009 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

on the road trip

just tryin to strike up a conversation :) LOL

by csm on Nov 23, 2009 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

I was responding to this:
on another note,is anyone afraid that Hossa may not be all that good?You know,that new Chi-Town curse?When a new star arrives in town he doesn’t seem that good of a player,you know,the Cutler syndrome….

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on Nov 23, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I got that

but i was typing something else and then….ah whatever….i messed up the subject,the subject wwas supposed to say i’m with you on the silly superstition……

by csm on Nov 23, 2009 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Sometimes the people who come to Chicago have what I like to call Walter Payton/Michael Jordan syndrome where they set all kinds of records and they build statues of them. So I too am worried about Hossa catching the “Chicago disease”.

by Scott13 on Nov 23, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

I believe the fact that they failed to finish during last

years ’Wha’s so circus about this?’ trip will prevent them from doing the same this year.

That, combined with the fact that Marian fucking Hossa is about to join the team.

I be on my green like Irish Spring.

by chrome on Nov 23, 2009 9:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Cutler

Needs a better supporting cast around him, while Hossa is coming to a team filled with talent. Also, basketball is lame.

wait what?

by pepe126 on Nov 23, 2009 11:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah - going season overall

let me enjoy the morning after before I start the workday.

I be on my green like Irish Spring.

by chrome on Nov 23, 2009 9:54 AM CST up reply actions  

haha, sorry dude

hope you like the smell of victory and the taste of Canucks tears to start off your day. ;)

by chiblackhawks on Nov 23, 2009 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

LUDICROUS SPEED

GO!

"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon

by HawkVision on Nov 23, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Ok....."ludicrous speed"

how many “Assholes do we have working here?”

"Let 'em say all those nice things," he says, "but I know my mistakes, and I make plenty of them.-Bobby Orr

by taBruiser on Nov 23, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

kesler's comment.....

They had nothing all night, then get a cheesy one in the third," visibly frustrated Canucks forward Ryan Kesler said. “It hits a couple legs and goes right on (Bickell’s) tape for a tap-in from the blue. It’s frustrating. I definitely thought we should have won this one tonight. We dominated the game.”

Its amazing how this team never gives credit to the Hawkst, like they are the best team in the NHL or something and when they do beat the Hawks, well then its ok. I really wished some one from our side put Sunden back on IR yesterday. I slept so much better last night as they defeated the team I dislike the most.

by redtribe14 on Nov 23, 2009 9:51 AM CST reply actions  

the canucks and the blackhawks just don't like each other

Willie Mitchell was the one who said Kane can only score on power plays right before Kaner scored three ES goals on Luongo, too.

Suffice to say, they can whine all they want but we’ll get back on the scoresheet.

by chiblackhawks on Nov 23, 2009 9:55 AM CST up reply actions  

didn't Kane

pretty much make Mitchell look silly on the first of those goals too? Like embarrassing and-you-get-paid-to-play-hockey-why silly?

by runningquicklynowhere on Nov 23, 2009 10:22 AM CST up reply actions  

hah, yes he did

Forgot that bit, but yes. Mitchell was the d-man Kane undressed.

by chiblackhawks on Nov 23, 2009 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

I didn't appreciate

Kerslers comments either….The Hawks played a good game considering it was their 3rd in four nights…and not to mention they are missing Hossa Bolland and Burish,and Huet wasn’t in net,even though Niemi was gold last night…he seems like a sore loser,as do all the Canucks players,they stole one in Chi-Town,and the Hawks stole one in Vancouver,get over it Kesler!!!!

by csm on Nov 23, 2009 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

we should get them a violinst....

that way everytime they lose and do an iterview they play a sad song in the back round.

by redtribe14 on Nov 23, 2009 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I love that movie

“The Ref” is one of my family’s traditional Christmas movies, the other being “Scrooge” / “A Christmas Carol” with Alastair Sim as Scrooge.

The power play is still f**king clown shoes

by HappyHuman on Nov 23, 2009 8:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed. The best movie version of a Christmas Carol.

Alastair Sim was a great Scrooge. Worst version (IMHO) the version with George C. Scott as Scrooge. I think he was trying to slip a little Patton in from time to time, and it was terribly awkward – Scrooge as a general.

"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon

by HawkVision on Nov 24, 2009 8:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Don’t forget the very underrated Bill Murray/Bobcat Goldthwait version.

by Scott13 on Nov 24, 2009 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

my family’s favorite has always been the Muppet version.. but that’s just us

by Killion on Nov 24, 2009 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm a HUGE fan of the The Muppet Christmas Carol

“I am here to tell the story.”
“And I am here for the food!”

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Nov 24, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, I rather enjoy the Muppet version

as well. Michael Caine, excellent Scrooge…overall Muppet hilarity, always good.
(singing rats) “This is my island in the sun!”

"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon

by HawkVision on Nov 25, 2009 8:06 AM CST up reply actions  

I love it.

Ryan Kesler: “Who’s that?”
Chris Kuc: “Oh, we brought this guy in to play while you answer our questions.”
Kesler: “Okaaaay?”
Kuc: “So, Ryan, how come you guys lost this time?” (knods to violinist) (violinist begins playing slow, sad music)
Kesler: “They had nothing all night, then get a cheesy one in the third. It hits a couple legs and goes right on his tape for a tap-in from the blue. It’s frustrating…” (a crying Roberto Luongo walks over and hugs Kesler during his response, Kesler beings crying, they hold each other tighter, crying louder, violinist plays louder for greater effect)
Kesler: (in a shaky voice) “No more questions, please.”
Kuc: (to violinist) Perfect. That’ll do. Thanks. (to Kesler) Thanks Ryan.

"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon

by HawkVision on Nov 23, 2009 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

That was terrific!

It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!

by hawks61 on Nov 23, 2009 9:59 PM CST up reply actions  

He's right

They should be frustrated. Vancouver should have won the game. The Blackhawks totally stole one from them.

But why he thinks anyone would do anything but point and laugh at him while he sits there stewing is beyond me.

by Brian C on Nov 23, 2009 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Cryin' Ryan
It’s frustrating. I definitely thought we should have won this one tonight. We dominated the game.

buuuuuuuuuuut…ya didn’t. I love having only to use that statement as a comeback for the coulda-shoulda-woulda cry baby bitches like Kesler. “…we should have won” Ya didn’t. “We dominated the game.” Ya didn’t. You lost. You get nothing. Good day sir.

"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon

by HawkVision on Nov 23, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

I didn’t get a chance to see the game, but I fail to grasp the concept of how you can “dominate” the game without scoring any goals. I guess you can say they controlled the flow of play, but one would think they would put at least one in the net.

twitter.com/BlackhawksDL

by Original Six on Nov 23, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

He's got a point

Vancouver outplayed every one of the Hawks except the one wearing the scary mask and that was the difference in the game. They played good enough to win and if I was in their shoes I’d be frustrated too.

by Scott13 on Nov 23, 2009 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Fine.

I’m not saying he shouldn’t show his frustration. But he should at least end the comment with something to the effect of “…but they (Hawks) found a way to win.” or “Their goalie was great tonight…” They still got shut-out at home, no matter how they played. And that should garner at least some acknowledgement, instead of sounding like they got cheated/screwed out of a victory.

"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon

by HawkVision on Nov 23, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Samfels....

great fuckin post!!!!!! You took the words right out of my mouth. They are all just a bunch of freakin cry babys when they don’y win. And they had every thing going for them like you mentioned. Great post!

by redtribe14 on Nov 23, 2009 9:59 AM CST reply actions  

Your post

was spot on,you hit the nail on the head,i just added a little to it….good line about the violinist LOL!!!

by csm on Nov 23, 2009 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

just saying...

last year on the circus trip, wasn’t san jose undefeated in regulation at home until we beat them?

Well, they’re undefeated in regulation at home right now, perhaps a new tradition starting?

Also, does anyone else feel like san jose is dominating with out really being cup contenders? I don’t know if it’s because their early playoff exits or what, but it’s just an impression i get.

by SLoop on Nov 23, 2009 10:40 AM CST reply actions  

true...

I feel the same, also did anyone catch the guy who sang both anthems last night. Man you could here the pin drop, even when he sang the candian anthem. Wow, I thought hawks were at a funeral. Hawks anthem the BEST!!!

by redtribe14 on Nov 23, 2009 10:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah And he rushed it!

Sounded like a lawyer giving a disclaimer at the end of Viagra commercial.

 "If you experience an erection for more than 4hr" you probably just watch a hawks game!!!

"The only thing worse than making a mistake is justifying it!"

by Hawkmares on Nov 23, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Don't know

what to think of the Sharks,they are very very talented,especially with dany Heatley now,he does afterall lead the league in goals scored….It would be awesome if Hossa came back against the Sharks and the Hawks winning in his Hawks debut,that would really make my day!!!

by csm on Nov 23, 2009 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

san jose beat us on the circus trip...

that was the game where the hawks were up 2-1 when nik got hurt right at the end of the second. we gave up a wrap around to marleau in the third and then a bad give away 30 seconds into OT put it on thorton’s stick which gave the sharks the win.

we did, however, beat the sharks 4-2 in january and scored a fifth goal (by bolland) that came off the board due to a high sticking penalty (which they charged to versteeg, but it was kane). and that game wasn’t the sharks first regulation loss on home ice, but it was only of only a handful.

and on a personal note i was in the building for both of those games, hence the recollection.

by modnar on Nov 23, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions  

a little national love
In my mind, the Hawks are the best team in hockey right now

Lebrun agrees with you.

I know you guys post this mid-week, don’t mean to step on toes……….just pumped up about the new rankings despite the fact that they don’t mean anything.

"If you're scared, go buy a dog" - Stacey King

by Hack on Nov 23, 2009 10:52 AM CST reply actions  

I guess Bickell

being sent down means Hossa is playin on Wednesday,or are they gonna call Bickell back up on Wednesday?

by csm on Nov 23, 2009 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Do you know when Hossa is supposed to return?

Have you read anything regarding his suspension? Seems like a pretty harsh punishment considering the situation.

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on Nov 23, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

That hit was legal

The league just hates American players, same as Detroit coaches.

wait what?

by pepe126 on Nov 23, 2009 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

I don’t know, steroid use is pretty serious shit. I doubt we see him back this year.

by ChicoMaki on Nov 23, 2009 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I donno

Hopefully on Thursday vs. Winnipeg,i can’t believe they suspended him for his knee to face collision with Selanne,it was an honest mistake

by csm on Nov 24, 2009 2:41 AM CST up reply actions  

i don't think that's the last we've seen of him

given his good effort for the few games he’s been up here, i don’t think Q would hesitate to bring him back if there’s another injury.

by SLoop on Nov 23, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Detroit...

keeps losing players, now Kronwall, but they keep finding ways to win.

by redtribe14 on Nov 23, 2009 11:48 AM CST reply actions  

They need to play Detroit again soon...

…lest Vancouver turn into my most-hated team. Not even the Scum dress as many players that I despise. Not to mention, as covered above, the Canucks’ stubborn refusal to ever tip their hats to the Hawks.

I hate to nitpick after a win, especially after 7 in a row, but is anyone else even a little concerned that the Hawks haven’t managed to really crack Vancouver’s clog-the-neutral-zone game plan? If Niemi didn’t have that Norse black magic working, well, they wouldn’t have walked away with 2 points. I keep telling myself that the boys sorted it all out in the playoffs last year, but I’ll be wary until I see it again.

p.s. I don’t know if it’s been covered before, but in some shots, the Sedins have an eerie resemblance to Rickety Cricket from Always Sunny…

...Feeding Rene Bourque his own dick since 11/19/09

by Hjammer of the Gods on Nov 23, 2009 11:56 AM CST reply actions  

Not too worried ...

I think it had to do more with a defensive gameplan for a road win. If you look at the TOI the top offensive players for the Hawks were Kane (19:29), Toews (18:54) then Madden (17:34), Ladd (17:34) and Brouwer (15:56). I remember thinkng that Ladd/Madden/Brouwer line seemed to be playing the whole game and Q was intent on matching them up with the top scoring line. Also, given the way Q likes to play the matchup game we’re always playing behind the 8 ball on the road with the first change, and how many times to the Hawks dump and not chase to change into the matchup they want? And you could tell with about 10 minutes to go in the 3rd that Q was playing for the one goal win as he was already sending two centermen out for the draw in the defensive zone.

The one stat I was wondering about was Toews faceoff prowess. We’ve had a home friendly schedule up until now and that gives you an advantage at the dot. I wonder if his faceoff % will level off as the schedule gets more even. We’ll have to watch and see, but of course facing SJ twice so early in the year will probably have an effect on the numbers too. We’ll see.

by Scott13 on Nov 23, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Sam makes his usual good points

(and his usual slam on Buff. Interesting that you didn’t mention your Bromance Object, Brouwer, once again showing his usual scoring touch around an open net.)

Sam’s got the best quote of the season so far: “You caught the Hawks on a second of a back-to-back. You had our backup goalie who hadn’t played in weeks. You’ve played twice this week. You played your game to a T. You were at home. And you lost.”

Apparently Kesler left out the fact that the Nucks had every advantage going into the game.

No-hitters are fun to watch. One-hitters aren’t. This was like a one-hitter, but I’m glad we got the hit.

by Preacher000 on Nov 23, 2009 12:22 PM CST reply actions  

Ben Eager.

Hasn’t been mentioned here much, shy of his 3rd period red line brain-fart. But he kinda made my night laying the bitch slap on Rypien in the first. These two have a good hate-on for each other spawning last spring. Why the fuck 5’11", 185 would pick 6’2", 230 to decide to hate (other than this) baffles me, but happy salmon fishing anyway. That, and I’m tired of watching Fraser constantly bite off more than he can chew so it was nice to see a cocky-ass Canuck eat some Hawk knuckles.

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by Hungryhawk on Nov 23, 2009 12:28 PM CST reply actions  

nothing beats last years fight...

when Ben Eager beat the living daylights out of I believe it was Rypien again, I mean the guy looked like freddy Kruger had just shredded his ass. that was the game when Burrishes hair was being pulled by the other vancouver Bitch.

by redtribe14 on Nov 23, 2009 12:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I think it is safe to say that

your recollection of last years spring brawl is just a touch off…..

Ben Eager beat the living daylights out of _______, I mean the guy looked like freddy Kruger had just shredded his ass. that was the game when ______ hair was being pulled by ______.

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by Hack on Nov 23, 2009 12:39 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Freddy Krueger was more or less an accurate reference.

by ChicoMaki on Nov 23, 2009 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I was there last night

Just some really quick bullets/thoughts:

The boys were pretty tired, which was understandable. Even then, they were still capable of bursts of outstanding play.

Niemi was incredible. He got lucky on a couple of shots, but he also made several ridiculous saves.

Buff is lazy as shit. Twice when the hawks gave up the puck while on the attack, the rest of the team hustles back to play some defense, and he stayed in Vancouver’s zone, just lazily skating around like a fat ass Sasha Cohen.

That pass from Kaner to Phantom is what ultimately set up Bickel’s goal, and I had the perfect perspective from my seat. As soon as the pass left his tape and it opened up the entire ice, I told my wife we were going to score. You MUST fear Kane. You MUST fear the assist, shots, passing, the mouthgaurd…everything.

We never got an explanation about why they blew the goal horn. It didn’t even look close on the replay.

Anyways, it was my wife’s first live hockey game, so I was hoping for another high scoring effort from the Hawks, but she enjoyed still enjoyed it.

by HawkInExile on Nov 23, 2009 2:05 PM CST reply actions  

Musta been nice. I hope you didn’t have to endure too much of the “how lucky for you” rhetoric that was doubtless resounding around GM place post game. January 23rd we’ll have them on a meat platter.

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by Hungryhawk on Nov 23, 2009 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Why are there props being thrown to Campbell when he almost F'd that play up?

Campbell lost control of Kane’s pass almost ruining a prime scoring chance. Thankfully it bounced, hit off of Toews skate and landed near Bickell’s stick. Don’t give him a pat on the back for messing up. Campbell did play a decent game, but he looks better when the rest of the Hawks are hurting. In fact, going back and looking at the points Campbell gets credit for reveal an interesting pattern. In almost all of them he is the last player accredited with an assist on the play. Meaning that he might not have had a significant impact on the goal being scored. In the game against Calgary he was given two assists that he did very little to acquire. One could argue that this shows his ability to be the "Quarterback" of the team, but I have a hard time seeing it that way. I really don’t understand the Campbell love here guys.
Niemi was extremely sound in net making saves from a variety of spots such as, stick side, glove side, butterfly, down low, the splits (DIE MAPLELEAF, DIE!) and he controlled rebounds with a quick stick. He was everywhere and showed composure. Simple things like, slightly turning his pads, causing the puck to bank to the sides rather than in front of him go a long way. Great Game.

by Puckpowwow.com on Nov 23, 2009 7:27 PM CST reply actions  

UGH

www.secondcityhockey.com

It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame.

by McClure on Nov 23, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Complete and utter stupidity.

“In almost all of them he is the last player accredited with an assist on the play. Meaning that he might not have had a significant impact on the goal being scored.”

Wow.

Taking this inane generalization to its logical conclusion I offer the following query: Assuming the puck had not glanced off of Toews’s skate last night, would you be petitioning the league to remove Kane’s assist, which would have been granted to him, because he did not have a significant impact on the eventual goal? Or are we just making up absurd generalizations in an attempt to fly in the face of hockey history and basic logic in order to pile on Campbell because he allegedly makes too much money?

by illinikc33 on Nov 23, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions  

well he was right about one thing. There was no “feed” from Phantom on the Bickell goal. He either lost control of it or had it poked away, but I thought that this was arguably Phantom’s strongest defensive effort of the season to date.

by Crease Monkey on Nov 23, 2009 8:18 PM CST up reply actions  

WOW

This is um, geez, what word would you use for it? Ridiculous? Asinine? Ignorant? Puck, your logic is mind-boggling. Or perhaps mind-numbing is more accurate.

(McClure, if bad language or insults to other commenters don’t get one kicked off this blog, what does? Can’t you use being a COMPLETE IDIOT as a reason to block someone’s posts?)

And who’s going to tell Gretzky that a bunch of his assists were insignificant since he was the last player accredited with an assist on a play?

by Preacher000 on Nov 23, 2009 11:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Sadly, we don’t have any rules, official or unofficial, regarding being a numbnuts. One does so at his or her own peril, and we hope that those of you with your synapses firing put the offender in his or her place accordingly, and eventually will learn.

However, as Sam said when he and I discussed this subject, he dropped a little Cool Hand Luke and noted “Some men you just can’t reach”.

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by McClure on Nov 24, 2009 12:49 AM CST up reply actions  

We’ve set up a policy that the only reason to really kick someone off the site is repeated trolling.

Don’t think we’re not tempted to change that occasionally though – so it goes.

by Killion on Nov 24, 2009 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Congratulations! You are the lucky second member of the "hawks61 Club."

One earns membership in this club by typing an extraneous amount of words into the comment box. However, there is another requirement: this assembly of words has to amount to nothing but utter fucking nonsense. So, let me personally congratulate you on your acceptance into this illustrious society.

Feel free to honor your membership in this club by advertising it in your signature.

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by mjthor on Nov 23, 2009 8:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Your awesome post doesn't make Campbell a stronger player.

Nor does it defend him in anyway, in fact it only adds to notion that you fail to watch the games closely enough to provide any opposition to what I just stated.
I believe the congrats should belong to you my friend for being so mature and poignant.

by Puckpowwow.com on Nov 23, 2009 8:57 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL

thor definitely doesn’t watch any of the games ever, and the fact that Campbell touches the puck should be overlooked, since he is terrible and sucks at hockey.

wait what?

by pepe126 on Nov 23, 2009 11:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes, it was one of his better defensive games as of late.
It is a shame that Campbell gets credit for a point when Kane’s amazing pass made it all come together. It is not an absurd generalization since I am providing a prime example of the point. Campbell lost control of the puck and still gets credit. How much clearer can It be. In Calgary he was credited with two points from two plays that he touched the puck in the our end, just happening to be the third from last player to touch it, almost having nothing to do with the goal. One specific play was when Keith made the cross ice pass to Ladd who scored on the breakaway. Campbell happened to be the guy to touch it last before Keith. I also find it to be a perfectly logical argument to question his play when thrown into the perspective of his pay.
I am just stating the facts as I see them to exempt any argument that his offensive skills make up for his lack of defensive skills. Also adding to the argument that he is a liability to this team, at this moment.

by Puckpowwow.com on Nov 23, 2009 8:40 PM CST reply actions  

OHMYGOD

I’m going to ignore the fact that you’re not whining about Toews getting an assist for having his skate in the right place and “still get[ting] credit” for an assist. But he’s a man and mature beyond his years and he digs in the corners so it’s OK. But on to the real point:

"In almost all of them he is the last player accredited with an assist on the play. Meaning that he might not have had a significant impact on the goal being scored."

I repeat, if Toews had not touched the puck,would be whining that Kane would have been credited with an assist, because according to your logic and your infallible theory, the last player credited with an assist doesn’t have a significant impact on the goal being scored. Or does that logic only apply to Brian Campbell?

by illinikc33 on Nov 23, 2009 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I am not saying that it is an absolute. No, of course not. Certainly, the player who is credited as being the third from last to touch the puck can and does in most times have a big impact on the play. Most don’t even have to touch the puck to make an impact. I am only speaking of certain situations that do involve Campbell because they offer examples to counter other views that he is an offensive strength on D. Never said it was infallible. Campbell is. And YES IT MATTERS THAT HE GETS PAID OVER 7 MIL TO PLAY THE GAME. HE IS THE HIGHEST PAYED PLAYER IN OUR HISTORY, HE SHOULD START PLAYING LIKE IT.
Look, no one has said anything yet to counter the fact that Campbell lost control of a puck that resulted in a goal. I am only stating that the number of points he has do not have to correlate with his play.

by Puckpowwow.com on Nov 23, 2009 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

If you don't like what Campbell is paid, blame Tallon

It’s also stupid to say his 2nd assists aren’t earned. How do you know his pass wasn’t involved in setting up the play? How can you say for sure his pass wasn’t the best possible option to set up a scoring opportunity?

As far as last night goes, who cares that he lost control of the puck? It was his choice to handle the puck toward the crease- not pass it back out, not look to shoot it around the end, not any of the other options he had. It was that choice that moved the puck into position for the score. I’d say that means he had a lot to do with the goal.

Chicagoan in the Lou.

by Mike Martin on Nov 23, 2009 10:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, I understand now.

You want him to play defense like Keith and score like Kane. Brilliant. If you read this site at all over the summer, I believe there was an entire post dedicated to analyzing players of Campbell’s skill set and conclusively proving that he is being paid market value for what he does. And I honestly don’t know what you’ve been watching this season; he’s been remarkably improved over last season, not to mention he was our only competent D (outside of Hammer) in the WCF last season.

And I repeat again—it matters not what he is paid. He is paid what he is paid and he will get that money and be a member of this team for quite a while regardless of whether he starts scoring on his own net multiple times per game or whether he is a PPG player and a shut down defenseman.

by illinikc33 on Nov 23, 2009 11:00 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I think I understand now

Because his name is Campbell, it doesn’t count when he gets an assist, but when anyone else is the third from last to touch the puck they had a big impact on the plat and deserve an assist. Also, he plays the exact way that he was paid to do when being brought into the organization. Lastly, I also judge players on the number of points they provide, since

Most don’t even have to touch the puck to make an impact
Campbell does not deserve a single point he has earned, since it is always someone else doing the scoring, and that person deserves all of the credit.

wait what?

by pepe126 on Nov 23, 2009 11:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Put the $7.1 million to one side

The guy is a good hockey player/average defenseman. This year, his D has been better. He’s actualy using his speed in his own end and taking hits to make plays.

I thought he was #2 star last night. The assist wasn’t even the top reason. Two straight games now he’s made great shots that coulda gone in. Plus the d-work.

Assists are quirky. If Kane finishes a breakaway, Campbell picks up a well-deserved assist. But no? Lazy f-er couldn’t get it done.

This is not “Campbell love”, but once you get past the salary, there’s a fair amount to like about the guy.

by cliffkoroll on Nov 24, 2009 8:50 AM CST up reply actions  

One more point

on the taking hits to make plays. It seems in the last two weeks or so teams have really made a point to hit Campbell hard. They seem to be running at him the way Calgary/Vancouver went after Kane in the playoffs. But it seems to have had no negative effect, if anything he’s played more focused and some of the best regular season hockey I’ve seen him play since he became a Hawk. I’ve actually been pretty impressed with Campbell lately.

by Scott13 on Nov 24, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

It is amazing....I have seen Cambpell

jus get alienated into the boards and keep moving as if he was made out of some type of new alloy.
Is it me —-I have never seen Keith or Campbell sweat and they are both high energy players

"Let 'em say all those nice things," he says, "but I know my mistakes, and I make plenty of them.-Bobby Orr

by taBruiser on Nov 24, 2009 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

campbell is probably made of metal

Hordichuck and Demitra tried to hit him, and both came off worse for wear. In fact, Demitra’s probably out for the season because he tried to hit Campbell.

It amuses me every time I see someone try to hit him, and he skates away unscathed.

by chiblackhawks on Nov 24, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions  

We didn't get him to play stellar

defense…He was brought here to quickly get the puck out of our zone and keep pressure on thier zone. He flawlessly performs this day in and day out. I really can’t think of another defensemen who excells at that part of the games like he does. He was not brought in to be a stay at home defense men.

"Let 'em say all those nice things," he says, "but I know my mistakes, and I make plenty of them.-Bobby Orr

by taBruiser on Nov 24, 2009 10:35 AM CST reply actions  

Oh god. I find myself agreeing with the Bruiser on this topic. Is this the bitter end? Or did I just get hot boxed by Foley and Eddie O the other night?

by hawksfan21 on Nov 24, 2009 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Although, on second thought, if you’ve come to this understanding about Campbell, why is it so hard for you to understand and appreciate Kane’s role?

by hawksfan21 on Nov 24, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

While I understand Kane is an offensive threat....

I still expect him to back check….as he has done now for a number of games. I don’t need him being physical—jus a pest

"Let 'em say all those nice things," he says, "but I know my mistakes, and I make plenty of them.-Bobby Orr

by taBruiser on Nov 24, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

The best thing so far about Kane is he is a PLUS 8, I know that doesn’t tell the whole story but some of you haters really need to get the blindfold off. This kid can play and every other team in the NHL would have him starting.

by SLAZZ on Nov 25, 2009 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Jesse Rogers

isn’t always perfect, but he did well on this one. He’s been doing a team evaluation every 10games and the 20 game mark happened late last week and so he did his recap. I thought he hit the nail on the head, I wouldn’t argue with any of it. Hadn’t seen it mentioned anywhere so I thought I’d share.

by Scott13 on Nov 24, 2009 10:59 AM CST reply actions  

Nope
Burke won’t wait much longer. On the weekend he thought he was close to making two trades, including this odd deal with Chicago for Brent Sopel (as if that would make a difference). By Monday, both deals were all but dead.

Link

by hawksfan21 on Nov 24, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

SUNshine Girl

Scroll down to the bottom left side

Nice Gallery

How many more days til Burish is back?

Brian Campbell SuckS!

by PJ-Blackhawk on Nov 24, 2009 3:22 PM CST up reply actions  

SUNSshine Girl

Score down to the bottom left side

Nice Gallery

How many more days til Burish is back?

Brian Campbell SuckS!

by PJ-Blackhawk on Nov 24, 2009 3:21 PM CST reply actions  

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