"OH NO! NOW DAVID KAPLAN WILL SAY WE'LL NEVER WIN WITH HUET!": Hawks 4 - Stars 5
by SamFels on Dec 29, 2009 10:12 PM CST
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Well, that was weird. What we've learned tonight is that the Hawks are so good the only team that can consistently beat them is the Hawks. At least that's what I thought after seeing that. The Hawks had periods of play where they were brilliant. And then some were...not so much. Turnovers, penalties, bad decisions, and oh yes, fun-bad goaltending. These nights happen, although I'm sure I'll have to break out Chicken Little around here after too long.
The first period was an ass-kicking that somehow only ended up in a 3-2 lead. The Hawks were all over the Stars, causing penalty after penalty, and simply fustigated them when they had the man advantage. The puck movement was beautiful, the player movement even better, and the effort top notch. It resulted in two power play goals, one each from Brouwer and Kane. But the Hawks gave it right back when Huet fell over on a Stars power play, leaving a whole net for Willa Ford to shoot at. Later, Huet decided to do an impression of a drowning man when Ribeiro went around the net, leaving far too much ground to cover to get back. Thankfully, Versteeg made a stupid good pass that left Fraser with a chance not even he could miss, and I think we all felt it would be pretty academic from there.
Whoops. The 2nd saw the Stars tighten up their ship considerably, and a nightmare of a minute got them going. Toews lost a board battle (dogs sleeping with cats!) which let Brad Richards find Loui Eriksson (one of about seven supremely annoying forwards Dallas has) who dribbled one through Huet's legs. And we thought his problem was going down to quick. Seemingly, the next shift Steve Ott (another one) sent a cross ice pass that hit troy Brouwer's skate and popped about three feet in the air, wrong-footing Huet and heading in. Perhaps he overplayed the pass a bit, but this is more down to just rotten luck. Still, a change needed to be made. The Hawks stabilized somewhat, and Kane and Toews once again brought us back with some hard forechecking, resulting in another Kane goal. Can he miss right now?
I'm sure I wasn't the only one who thought after that late 2nd period goal, the Hawks would cruise to the two points. And then Brent Sopel got caught isolated and flat-footed. Still, the Hawks had their chances, and Niemi made some big saves to keep them within one, including spitting one guilt-edged chance back at Mike Ribeiro, just like Steve Ott spits back Ribeiro's semen at him after he's done blowing him in the shower.
Meh, can't win them all, and this was just one of those goofy nights.
Notes:
Yes, Huet was bad. But I don't think it's a trend. He's been so good for a while now, and this was just one of those drink-it-off-at-the-bar-days at the office. Still, I have an itchy feeling the boo birds will be out on Thursday.
-Though the numbers won't reflect it, there's been a slight drop in Marlboro 72's play in the past couple games. Couple more turnovers, couple mishandled chances. They're still playing well, but they've slipped slightly from the incredibly lofty standard they've set.
-Teams may decide the best way to attack the Hawks is to furiously forecheck their d-men. The Preds did it, and the Stars did it tonight. It's not a bad idea, because the Hawks only have one and a half defensemen who are a sure thing to handle their way out of trouble (Campbell and Barker). Keith can get a little jumpy, Seabrook isn't all that quick, and neither is Hjalmarsson. Though that may leave teams short at the back, which would be death.
-Coach Q needs to calm the fuck down. It's hard to complain about a coach behind the bench of the team that's top of the Conference. But his impatience at times can be baffling. After mauling the Stars for the 1st, one bad minute resulted in line-a-palooza again in the 2nd. Versteeg was shifted to play with Sharp and Hossa, then we saw those two wingers with Madden, and on and on it went. For a team that had won 7 of 8, I think it's entitled to one bad period, or even game, before we start rolling the old Linemates Slot Machine. This was after Sunday's game where Patrick Kane was on the ice in the last minute protecting a one goal lead. Strange days, indeed. Most peculiar, mama.
Anyway, I wouldn't get too upset about this one. You can't win them all, and there will just be some nights where your goalie spits it. There have been far more when he's let none in. Happens. Get 'em Thursday. Though it does ruin my dream of the perfectly symmetrical 3-loss months. Oh well.
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Thank God
thank you, thank you, thank you for dispensing some level headed common sense. Bad games happen, and 5 or 6 of them over 82 is nothing to worry about. Huet is still an above average keeper and this team will be fine.
Everyone has their sanctuary. The Catholics have churches, fat people have Wisconsin, and I have the United Center.
photo should have been chicken little.
you should have seen the nonsense that went on in the game thread.
I absolutely Loved the way you responded to the anti-Huet-posters. Made me fall in love with you all over again.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 30, 2009 9:15 AM CST up reply actions
Games like this are going to happen
That said, two comments….
1. Marian Hossa is in a slump and clearly getting frustrated out there….to the point where I suspect Coach Q will see fit to rearrange his line pairings. The Sharp-Hossa thing isn’t working well for either player. Not sure the answer, other than to hope for Dave Bolland to get back playing to his standard level SOON.
2. For the last week or so Brent Sopel has skated like he’s tied to a piano. Good grief. Why can’t Sopel not dress for certain games in deference to Jordan Hendry? I don’t get that.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
agreed w/ hossa comment
time to show up.
On Hossa
He’ll be fine and will start to produce sooner than later you’ll see. He does look frustrated out there and tonight it seemed to reach a boiling point which usually means (well, at least in Ottawa it did) he was about to embark on a massive goal-scoring streak.
He’s an impressive player that just needs to simplfy his game a little and stop trying to do too much as his breakaway attempt would indicate.
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
Generally agree
But, it is clear to me that the Hossa-Sharp thing is not working at all. Coach Q is going to have to mess with his line pairings. Until Dave Bolland is hopefully back and healthy I’m not sure there is an easy answer. Fact is Hossa needs to be on a line with a bonafide centering pass oriented center.
Maybe you put Madden and Hossa together for the time being.
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Sopel
I’m gonna suggest there’s 2.3 million reasons why he’s playing and Hendry’s not, but I could be wrong. He sure as hell ain’t being showcased as trade bait. Whoever made the comment he looks like he’s skating in wet cement was spot on.
"Andre, as you know, has been living in semi-seclusion in Northern Quebec ever since the unfortunate Denny Pratt tragedy. "
by Sergei Skateyerassov on Dec 29, 2009 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
Regardless the big money owed Sopel he doesn't need to be dressing every night
You’ve got Jordon Hendry available and able to contribute distinctly more than what Sopel can, especially in certain match up games.
Sopel being showcased was a joke from the beginning. The only way to move Sopel is to dangle a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick to some bottom-feeder team. Which I am sure Stan Bowman has done but with no takers.
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Thank You
I’ll take credit for that cement comment. I just wish I didn’t have to make it in the first place.
by it'snotsomuchmeasitisroenick on Dec 29, 2009 11:38 PM CST up reply actions
The Huet Hate Debate
Well, it was only a matter of time before it recommenced and some of his protesters came out of the woodwork only to persecute him with falsified information. Huet has another terrible start against the lucky Stars (and they really were lucky) and is falsely blamed for goals that he had zero chances at.
-I mean Modano top corner on the fly sure that’s stoppable from a guy that has only 567 career goals, he’s never done that before.
-Ribeiro is the Stars leading scorer and scores on a wraparound that Seabrook eventually pushes Huet’s pad into the net. O.K.
-Eriksson is only a 30-goal scorer standing alone in front of the net and nets the twine which Huet gets a piece of it but not enough.
-4th goal. Really? After Robidas goal they get this? The hockey gods must shine on the city that won the Campbell Bowl in 1999. Did anyone else see that banner? The Campbell Bowl? FML.
Face it Huet wasn’t at his best tonight but neither was the defence in front of him either and in the last 6 games it has deteriorated immensely large in part due to this ridiculous schedule that had the ‘Hawks compete 7 times in 12 days including the Christmas break. Losses happen and it was to a team that has little chance at making the playoffs this season and if the ’Hawks continue to dent the twine with this regularity they will win the Western Conference with ease. We’re 1st in the West so let’s no get too carried away.
New Year’s Eve brings us the Devils that are tops in the East as it shoud be another classic and with the ‘Hawks getting 2 days off (which is huge) this should re-energized thier batteries a little. A little practice time on D zone coverage couldn’t help either
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
Long, but I agree.
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by Original Six on Dec 29, 2009 10:53 PM CST up reply actions
Huet is entitled to a lousy game once in awhile
It happens.
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Seabrook (#7) and Keith (#2). 72
VERSTEEG!
by Bwana on Dec 29, 2009 11:38 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Eh…Huet’s attempt on the wrap-around was awful no matter how unfairly critical fans and talking heads on terrible local tv shows have been. And man is that show bad.
But its one loss in a long season, and it gives those who blindly hate Huet something to do in the meantime.
What to do with Hossa and Sharpie is the biggest issue of the nite…
Oh god look out behind you...
Its the Salary Cap...
Huet played bad.
Unfortunately, Huet still has no margin for error, as evidenced by the persistent idiots in the game thread.
Now, how long will it take for someone to tell me that ‘persistent idiots’ is an “oxy-moron”.
I be on my green like Irish Spring.
I wonder how many
people in this world think the definition of minority is “small number”
by it'snotsomuchmeasitisroenick on Dec 29, 2009 11:42 PM CST up reply actions
Huet hate?
I HATE HUET! But its not because of his goal tending. It might be that stupid grin that he always gets at the worst possible moment. For the record, I was also at the UC the last time they played the Stars and that horrible bouncing puck off the partition is just seared into my cornea. But he has been playing well, and sometimes you just don’t have it, and he just didn’t have it. Whatever it is. I also think Sopel belongs in the Geico commercials, but that’s another story.
I just think Q needs to get rid of the inner-Penn and stop juggling the lines every five seconds. The Hawks as a team need to calm down. Whenever they start racking up the shots and the pucks don’t roll their way, it seems they start to get manic. They turn the puck over more, try to force idiotic passes that wind up going the other way, whiff on shots more, and just plain forget to put the puck on their stick.
Comportment allert
I HATE HUET! But its not because of his goal tending. It might be that stupid grin that he always gets at the worst possible moment
Consider also hating Jay Cutler because of his facial expression(s) on the bench.
David Haugh is that you?
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
HUET isn't smiling...
He isn’t smiling; it’s a tick where he flexes his face wide.
But you only see his mouth widen so it looks like he’s smiling.
Still, somewhat weak reason to bring temperament into the fold…the guys a fucking goalie…
by WirtzGMnomore on Dec 30, 2009 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
"blindly hate Huet" and "persistent idiots" geez whatever!!!!
Huet finally found himself on the bench and watched Neimi attacking the puck. Everyone would love to see Huet be the number 1, but c’mon. Despite having a great D in front of him-The defense is number 1 in shot allowed- only 24 per game three less then the next team at 27. He is a terrible 23 out of 30 in SV%. Play-offs are all about great D and even better goal-tending. Expecting tosee Neimi get more ice time as this season unfolds.
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
Welcome to the website....
Mr. Rozner….. Guess when Neimi played the Hawks played 2 D-men short all the time…. Maybe it’s the fact he faces quality shots that the get in…
Let’s look at other stats as well…. 2.13 GAA….
His stats are similar to a guy you might have heard of…… Martin Brodeur
Marty = 2.15 GAA .920 Save% 3 SO
Huet = 2.13 GAA .910 Save % 3 SO….
Also Bring back Orkman!
total saves Broduer 854....Huet 598
The more I dig into stats the more I am blown away by the defense. I sure I will catch some(more) shit but Cambpell is my MVP , his abilty to get the puck out of the defensive zone and deliever quickly it to the offensive zone is flat out spectacular—doesn’t hurt to have Keith/Seabs/Hammer and others also
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
ugh
Broduer has played in 6 more games than Huet- of course he has more fucking saves. Why don’t you just make shit up instead of using misleading numbers??
by ChargingMajor on Dec 30, 2009 8:09 AM CST up reply actions
ok...u got me on that stat...per game
Broduer faces 4 more shots then Huet—I know big deal.
I still feel ,mentally, he ain’t got it. Would love to see Broduer’s numbers as a Hawk goalie,….blah..blah….blah…still a top 3 team in the league…..Jus don’t think huet is play-off material
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
I still feel ,mentally, he ain’t got it.
This is where I declare SHENANIGANS. Where does this “feeling” come from that apparently Huet rose up through just about every level of hockey in the world and then suddenly hit the NHL and thought “OH SHIT I FORGOT HOW TO DO THIS” When you’re making saves like these on the best players in the world, its got nothin to do with what’s between the ears. If you want to make a case for his goaltending skills being sub-par then go ahead, but I’m sick of the lazy excuse of not being as good mentally. Like any of us could understand his mental state and the effects it has on his reaction times and things that affect his play.
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by Original Six on Dec 30, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions 7 recs
It's official
-Sure it was a bad game for him, but the Stars have Huet all messed up in the head. Never again should he start against them as long as he’s a Hawk. Niemi tonight and Huet vs. Devils maybe?
-Doesn’t Ott look like VERSTEEG!’s older brother?
-PP actually looked like a TEAM effort, rather than individual.
-Q-ville stopped short of putting a Huet-Kopecky-Eager line out there…can be such a scatter-brain, that guy.
-I actually thought the Hawks would never lose another game as soon as Hossa started playing, beating opponents by at least 4 goals. Hossa should go all VERSTEEG! and start taking matters in his own hands. He’ll come around as soon as Kane stops being so damn lazy and pulls his weight.
-The Hawks seem to bring out the best in opposing teams, especially goalies. Bet Alfonso Ribeiro and Co. lose big to the Ducks in 2 days.
could someone explain to me what Kopecky does out there that Jake Dowell doesn’t? besides fall down and generally look lost every time he steps onto the rink?
Dowell has yet to make Hossa feel like he’s back in the old country…
by Killion on Dec 30, 2009 2:23 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
OH NOES!!!!
THE HAWKS ARE TERRIBLE! HUET IS TERRIBLE! HOSSA IS A BUST! BRING BACK HAVLAT! KANE IS LAZY!
LET'S GO HAWKS!!!
i agree.
they need to shooooooooooooot it more.
by bangbangerang on Dec 30, 2009 8:48 AM CST up reply actions
Excellent game
to miss thanks to being on Versus. I don’t think we are being hard enough on Coach Q! Lets shit it out like a bad night of drinking Old Style and prepare for NJ! And yes, let the netminder debate continue. It’s a healthy problem to have!
Enjoy the silence!
by thepuckstopshere on Dec 30, 2009 6:49 AM CST reply actions
the Huet haters who harp on low shots and poor save pct
display their ignorance.
low shot totals often go along with mediocre save percentages. goalies get a little cold on few shots and there are usually a higher pct of better quality chances
by krome on Dec 30, 2009 8:16 AM CST via mobile reply actions
I tried this argument earlier this year...
…and I think Dirt did some crunching and conculuded the link here was tenuous.
Huey is #23 in the league in save percentage (note- he’s ahead of Fleury. While goaltending is important, it’s generally overrated.) He actually fell down OUTSIDE THE NET on Modano’s goal. Please do not defend the turd he laid last night.
This is at least the 5th or 6th game this year when the Hawks outskated an opponent and came up empty. Hell yeah, it’s aggravating. By comparison, how often have they been outplayed and won? (Maybe in Vancouver.) This is because the Hawks goaltending has been ok with a 20% chance of suck. The Hawks could have run away from the conference by now with good goaltending.
This is not a new issue- we saw this most of last year. And I’m not suggesting we resurrect Giguerre talk or any of those other idioicies. The Hawks will sink or swim with the current roster.
But if you’re looking for this team’s Achilles heel, it’s pretty obvious.
Goaltending aside, the game was tied after 2 and the Hawks didn’t score in the 3rd.
Oh, and the Sopel resurgence has officially ebbed. Looked like a hitching post on Ott’s last gosal.
Quit the sky is falling.... Are we the cubs?
Don’t forget this team is first in the western conference minus their 2nd line center and top energy line player. Imagine how scary good we would be with Bolland dishing Kane and co passes and Burish helps Eager quit being such a meathead? Remember how good Burish and Sharp played together in the playoffs? Can’t wait for him to come back!
Huet is allowed to be bad. I remember when a BAD hawks team lit up Patrick Roy for 5 goals in Chelios’ last game. It happens.
So it could be worse, remember when Jon Klemm was supposed to be our savior?
by ChewyLemonHeadsAndFriends on Dec 30, 2009 8:17 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Annoying Dallas Players
As a Stars fan, I’m just curious which players you find so annoying. Ott’s a given — he’s the kind of guy EVERYONE hates (unless he’s on the team you’re routing for… and even then, sometimes) — but Loui Eriksson? Really?
I’m not here to start a debate. You’re entitled to your opinion and I’m entitled to mine. I’m just wondering who else rounds out your list of “about seven supremely annoying forwards Dallas has”.
Ott? Modano? Morrow? Neal? Those’re my best guesses.
Ribiero
That guy has a face that just screams “punch me”.
by lordcrapulus on Dec 30, 2009 8:36 AM CST up reply actions
Good Call!
I don’t know how I over-looked him when I was making my guesses! He plays for the team I route for and I still can’t stand the guy. He’s extremely talented, and he’s creative with the puck, but I’m not a fan of his antics. (I’m not a fan of embellishing infractions, and he’s gone over-the-top in the department on several occasions.)
Re: Coach Q needs to calm the fuck down.
Anyone catch Q at the end of the game? Right after the timeout, he was barking out orders and in midsentence, stopped, and dropped a “I’m the fucking coach” and then a I swear- to- God- I’m- going- to- kick- your- ass- if- you- say- another- word- stare for about 4 seconds until the camera cut away. Not sure who he was talking to.
Anyway… excellent wrap-up. Not sure why, but this one felt really bad. Yeah, I get it that even the best teams lose every once in awhile, and even the best goalies can have an off night. And reading your calming words has definitely convinced me to stop sucking on the brown paper bag. The thing is, how many more times is Huet going to look that bad before we admit that we aren’t winning the cup with him in the pipes?
I mean, sure, stopping Mike Modano flying down the wing is always tough, even when you don’t get tangled up in your own skates. And beating a wrap around is ten times harder when you over commit to one side. So while I agree, that even the best goalies make mistakes, it just seems like Huet has too many nights where he looks worse than a top tiered goalie having a bad night. Can we win the cup with him? Time will tell.
Thanks for walking me off the ledge. If you think I’m cynical now, you should have heard me last night.
Huet
I really don’t understand why there is such love and staunch defense of Huet here. I don’t hate him at all. I just don’t think he is very good. He is not the worst goalie in the league. His stats and the weak goals that we have all witnessed that he allows establish that he is average at best. If the Hawks do not make it to and/or win the Stanley Cup this year, there is a 99.9% chance that it will be because of Huet’s play. He is the weakest link on the team by far. I challenge anyone here to point out a bigger weakness on the team.
Hilarious
a 4th liner who plays 8 mins or less a game and in the playoffs will play even less. Good call.
It was clearly meant to be tongue-in-cheek. If you had been on the site longer than a day, you might know that harassing Tomas Kopecky is something we like to do from time to time. But I’ll ignore that for now.
As for Huet, you’ve shown a clear propensity to trumpet the effectiveness of one stat (SV ) that makes Huet look bad, all the while claiming that some other stat (GAA) that makes him look good is totally useless. I say that stats can be used to prove anything you want, and SV and GAA are both the wrong ones to use here.
To everyone who thinks Huet will cost us a Stanley Cup- his record on the season is 17-8-2. Just for fun, let’s call the 2 shootout losses regular losses, because there are no shootouts in the playoffs. That gives him a record of 17-10, yes?
The record you need to win the Cup? 16-12 or better. I may not be bright, but I’m pretty sure 17-10 beats 16-12.
Good points indeed, except that some of those wins are not against playoff caliber teams. Secondly, the playoffs are not round robin so you can’t simply go 16-12 and win the cup. However, using your logic (basing it on record) we should be starting Niemi then who is 9-3, which would extrapolate out to 18-6, with wins over quality teams like boston, nashville, calgary, vancouver,pittsburgh, and detroit.) He also has a better goals against and save %.
I am sorry I brought up the entire Huet thing. I didn’t realize he was so beloved here.
Huet isn’t exactly beloved, but this is hardly a new conflict around here, and it’s a baseless one.
16-12 is based on 4 series going to 7 games. The point wasn’t supposed to be that Niemi is better, but that Huet is good enough to win a Cup with this team.
Based solely on my opinion, Niemi has better numbers despite being a worse goalie.
Niemi
Has put up good numbers however does he have the stamina to play more games? And if anything, Huet can have one or two bad games per series, and we would still be able to win four games before the other team does (hopefully).
wait what?
I’m about to be the second rec on this that will make it green, oh how far you have come from when you first started posting here. We should all be proud.
wait what?
Thoughts
I think Huet will be ok……….but last night’s game…………damnit.
Love Hossa’s overall game………..but I’m still waiting to see him roof a wrister.
Sopel……..that can’t happen dude.
T.Brouw is much more valuable to this team than some other forwards that are getting paid like 3 times as much as him……………..I’m looking at you Buff and Versteeg (phenomenal dish to fraser aside).
I know I’m looking ahead a bit, but is anyone else just a scoch worried that Q might screw us over in the playoffs with this constant line juggling? He’s about as patient as toddler standing outside an occupied bathroom after a few too many juice boxes.
Negative thoughts aside…….I still love this team.
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
I'm one
who at the start of this season said and was convinced this was not our year for the Cup. Was thinking next year probably.
Now, I’ve changed my mind. This team has what it takes, they just have to focus. They seem to play down to the level of the team they are playing against. So I figure, once they’re in the playoffs it’s game on for 60 minutes a game. I can’t wait for June.
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
what do you mean again? He doesn’t show up for the regular season.
by runningquicklynowhere on Dec 30, 2009 10:11 AM CST up reply actions
this was a weird one...
we played awsome and and also played like shit if that makes any sense. As for Mike Madano. I hate that Bitch, I wish some one would put a fist in his mouth, freakin AARP CEO.
Lets try history and perspective for a change
Year / Winner / Goalie / Reg Sea. SV % / Reg Sea. GAA
08-09 / PITT / Fluery / .912 / 2.67
07-08 / DET / Osgood / .914 / 2.09
06-07 / ANA / Giguere / .918 / 2.26
05-06 / CAR / Ward / .882 / 3.68
03-04 / TB / Khabby / .910 / 2.33
09-10 / / HUET / .910 / 2.13
Ward obviously a special case so you can toss that out. Huet fits in very nicely with the last 5 Cup-winning goalies with SV% and GAA.
by ChargingMajor on Dec 30, 2009 10:03 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
Ward was a beast in the playoffs.
by runningquicklynowhere on Dec 30, 2009 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
his playoff numbers were 2.14 and .920. Just a little more in line with the others when it came down to the end.
by runningquicklynowhere on Dec 30, 2009 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
yeah...he's good.....if you're a "numbers man."
i once had a co-worker say that to me in an argument over the POPULATION of detroit………..she would probably be a huet basher too.
huet is doing fine. last night was awful. the previous game against dallas was AWFUL. everything is going to be ok.
by bangbangerang on Dec 30, 2009 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
SOOOOO.....
Who do you think will start against New Jersey then?
Hot Dogs are like a T-Bone Steak where I come from.
by Uncle Buttershoe on Dec 30, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions
"Attention Ass Munchers"...stop the Huet bashing
One bad game out of how many? Your begining to remind me of Southern California sports fans. Put down your Cosmopolitans and Sushi and stick with supporting the guy. Oh Craayyypppp.
Hot Dogs are like a T-Bone Steak where I come from.
by Uncle Buttershoe on Dec 30, 2009 10:26 AM CST reply actions
Heavens to mergatroid
The Hawks will be just fine. This is a very gifted team with an exceptional, crazy like a fox coach.
The biggest dilemma on hand right now is getting Marian Hossa figured out. He looks frustrated and pissed, and for good reason because his performance has sucked. The Hossa-Sharp thing is not working out. Time to rearrange the lines. GIven that Bolland is still out and in my opinion Hossa has screaming need to be paired up with a pass-oriented center, I’d stick him with Madden for the time being.
Ladd – Madden – Hossa
Brouwer – Toews – Kane
Buff – Versteeg – Sharp
Also, if I have one criticism of coach Q it is his goofy passion for Brent Sopel. For the love of God can we not dress Sopel and get Jordon Hendry out there….there is NO showcasing Sopel, he of the skating that looks like he is pulling a cement truck and has a load of hoey in his pants. To get rid of Sopel is for Bowman to attach a 2nd round draft pick and therefore entice some bottom dweller team to take the deal.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Q always has an affinity for one bad defensemen. In Colorado it was Brett Clark. Last year it was Matt Walker. This year it’s Sopel. It’s a “Q thing”
If this is a re-build...we should do it every year.
Trying not to get too worked up over the 6th defensive lineman
But….when you have a viable option like Jordan Hendry lying around and what you do as a team is hugely predicated on defensive energy, then I think it high time you simply not dress Sopel for every bloody game. Sopel played like a 50 year old man out there last night. There are some games against certain opponent where he simply cannot move, and the Dallas game was one of them.
The danger is running Keith and Seabrook into the ground. And Campbell too for the matter. Hence why it is time to really think smart about the role of Sopel.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
He may be slow
so maybe not a good fit for some games, but the guy has blocked so many shots and given up his body to help the team, I think he’s been valuable. Personally, I think he’s better when paired with Hendry and Barker is out. Kinda like how Hammer paired with Cambpell has made (IMO) a big difference in Cambpell’s play. I just don’t know if a Barker/Hendry pairing would be any good.
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
barkers the problem
get some speed back there with sopel and it could be the solution. at least sopel tries. barker on the other hand always looks as if he just got out of bed with a north avenue cross dresser. there must be an injury clause in his contract wherein he doesn’t get paid if hes injured. he hasn’t hit anybody in weeks. he’s a plus 3 only because he gets all those power play opportunities
is it just me
or did you just paraphrase your comments earlier?
That said, two comments….
1. Marian Hossa is in a slump and clearly getting frustrated out there….to the point where I suspect Coach Q will see fit to rearrange his line pairings. The Sharp-Hossa thing isn’t working well for either player. Not sure the answer, other than to hope for Dave Bolland to get back playing to his standard level SOON.
2. For the last week or so Brent Sopel has skated like he’s tied to a piano. Good grief. Why can’t Sopel not dress for certain games in deference to Jordan Hendry? I don’t get that.
What is it with you and incessant repetition?
by chiblackhawks on Dec 30, 2009 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
when he feels he has a point
he repeats it a few times (like on a gamethread and a recap) until he’s sure everyone has seen it…………it’s kind of his thing.
Blockquoting tip, just highlight all of the text that you want to blockquote and then hit the blockquote button, as opposed to individually placing the blockquotes where you think they should go. Not criticizing, just trying to help.
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
i noticed that
And yeah, bit of html fail there— should have looked it over after I clicked the blockquote button. But I figured people would know what I meant.
by chiblackhawks on Dec 30, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
your fist line
is one of the funniest things I have read here.
Huet made an “exit stage left” “he couldn’t stop the puck even”
"Stay thirsty my friend"
Goalies!
ALL goalies are head cases.
Did anybody watch the Nashville game Sunday? I was there, Niemi kept Nashville in the game.
Last night Huet lost his concentration because his team was overwhelming the Stars. He was not good, and needed to be pulled, but every goalie sucks sometimes and gets pulled.
These maroons that say Huet sucks should (1) try to play goalie or hockey for that matter, and (2) Thank the hockey gods that we are not stuck with Osgood and Howard. I know Osgood has some cups, but he played with teams that had Chelios, Lidstrom, Murphy, etc on D plus Yzerman, Shanahan, Hull, Federov, etc scoring a few goals. Pange could have one a cup with them.
Just how good do they expect Huet to be? Do you know that he will not have a shutout in every game?
The biggest problem I see with our Harks is Quenneville. He could screw this thing up. He is crazy! Why else would you play Sopel instead of Hendry? Wasn’t he a defenseman? If Sopel doesn’t play last night I think they win. He needs to go to Rockford via waivers. So what if they get stuck with 1/2 his salary. The time to win is now. Sopel is probably a knowledgable player and could help in Rockford. He is in the big house now, and sadly is past his usefulness. Hendry – Barker, while not the best pairing is better than Sopel – Barker. Who knows, maybe if Barker had some faith in his partner, he could take another step in his development. Remember he has been paired with Campbell (not exactly a stay at home D man) and Sopel.
I can’t wait for NJ. Madden should be a monster for this one. Hopefully, Sopel doesn’t have to defend Parise too much.
Have at me!
"Stay thirsty my friend"
I love the argument made by people, “if you think he sucks, lets see you try and do it”. That somehow makes him not suck because he is better than someone who does not earn a living or has ever even played goalie in a competitive setting? By that standard, any person who has not played professional sports could never criticize any professional athlete. Absurd.
Yes that is correct
The reason he gets paid what he does is because he is better than 99.999% of all other people who try to do what he does. Any dumb ass can say what they think, but if you have no knowledge, like a lot of current Hawks fans, you sound like a fucking dunbass, especially when you post on this site.
Having no knowledge and making a comment about something is what is absurd my good man.
"Stay thirsty my friend"
I think whether Huet is a playoff caliber/stanley cup goalie is quite debatable bud. Not only is it a heated topic here obviously, but it is quite frequently brought up by many of the top analysts in hockey….so I don’t think it is unfounded, without knowledge, or baseless. I will be the first one to praise him if he steps up and provides the goaltending to help them win the cup but the inconsistent goaltending we see from him cannot happen in the playoffs where leads are harder to overcome, the play is more intense, and you cannot come back from multiple goal deficits in games.
He's looked great in the playoffs before.
Then again, we brought Khabby because of his run with the Lightning, but last year he was generally underwhelming in the playoffs.
Here’s the deal. Huet’s our goalie. He will be our goalie all year. He can be a great goalie, he can be a terrible goalie. But there’s scant evidence that a professional athlete performs better when any misstep he makes is greeted with a chorus of boos and ‘you suck’ reigning down on him from the home crowd. If anything, it hurts.
That’s the only thing I care about.
If you get off by writing a bunch of hyperbolic bullshit about how much he sucks here, go crazy. Just ask yourself who you’re helping the next time you light the torches with the rest of your rih-tard colleagues at the UC.
I be on my green like Irish Spring.
by chrome on Dec 30, 2009 11:32 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Rih-tard???
Hey, I have a “rih-tard” kid who plays hockey, and he’s not even a goalie. Now THAT hurts.
Hot Dogs are like a T-Bone Steak where I come from.
by Uncle Buttershoe on Dec 30, 2009 11:59 AM CST up reply actions
Thank You
Huey and Niemi are our guys. Yell at the TV, kick the dog, rant on this website, but don’t boo your guys at the UC.
Great goalies are like lead-off hitters- nice to have, but there’s only a half-dozen to go around. Everyone else has to make do, and our guys are all right.
As amply demonstrated, you don’t need a great goalie to win a Cup.
Four lousy games in net in the past two weeks is enough to get anyone aggravated, but booing is strictly for fucktards.
Have a nice day.
NOWHERE
did I ever say I booed him. I just ranted here because I am sick of his lackluster substandard play.
Comment was not aimed at you...
…but it’s one of my pet peeves, so I make a point of applauding and echoing these sentiments.
So
your comments to me last night were a debate? Hahahaha, I stand by my initial call of troll.
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
ouch
i might cry now because some lady who knows zero about hockey is calling me names because i questioned the skill level of her hero. boo hoo
She’s been around for a while, guy who signed up yesterday. She remembers the glory days: mjthor’s feeds and beer, the beard of the day, the days when Versus was still complete bullshit but at least it was on DirecTV. Some may call them the dark days, because there was no Hi, I’m Bob LeDonne, but she was there.
She knows her hockey and she’s a regular. SCH is full of drunks just like a bar, and you don’t mess with the regulars.
/Matt Walker sticking up for Campbell.
by hawksfan21 on Dec 31, 2009 12:16 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Ahhh, I miss the glory days
Thanks Ralph. :*
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
hey, lost my link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtfXK6JoRys
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
Oh my God
Look, he made a save in the playoffs….let me know when he wins his first playoff series….oh, that’s right,he was the backup then…
Welcome....
Mr. Rozner… or did you just turn on the score today and here him talk about it? What’s next wanting Buff back on D?
Read above EEEEEEEEdiot
You base this an what analysts say? You probably think Pierre M at TSN is great.
Did you get your bleacher tickets yet?
"Stay thirsty my friend"
Not a Cubs fan. Sorry. I highly doubt Huet is reading this or that any of it hurts his feelings. Again, I will cheer him when he does well and when he plays like he did last night and in several other games, i will say that he sucked.
I don’t get off on it and made a simple comment that he is average at best and has horrible games too often to be dependable in the playoffs. Some people here for some reason believe that he is the greatest netminder in the league. I have watched a lot of bad hockey in this town for a long time and I am very excited about the team the Hawks have put together and it is very concerning that he has the success or failure of this team in his hands as he flops around like a drowning man on the ice. I hope he proves me wrong but I think it is going to be a very tense and nervous playoff run with him in goal. Hopefully it will be a run and not a single series.
oh man- which people said Huet “is the greatest netminder in the league?” Those people are really dumb and need to be called out. Please provide the list of people post-haste!
by ChargingMajor on Dec 30, 2009 12:06 PM CST up reply actions
Here's why people get annoyed with you:
You cheer for Huet when he does well and when he lays an egg, you let everyone know why the Hawks can’t win with him. If it was as simple as you saying “Boy, Huet really sucked last night, hopefully he won’t be as bad next game” I don’t think you’d get the reaction you’ve received.
Treating a stink-bomb of a game as though the world is ending and flashing his Save % as though it’s some big secret to everyone on this site isn’t going to get many folks on your side.
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by El Duque's Raft on Dec 30, 2009 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
multiple games with weakass inexcusable goals that a squirt goalie would stop (see calgary, san jose, dallas, dallas. When was the last time he stood on his head and won a game for the Hawks? I can’t recall the last time I saw a goalie trip over his own skates trying to simply slide from post to post. String a few of those bad games together and we are watching a lower seed go by us into the next round of the playoffs in mid april.
And he's had multiple games of competent play
Worry about April when it gets here.
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by El Duque's Raft on Dec 30, 2009 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
Worry about April when it gets here? Holy crap…and then when it does get here you have now done nothing? Ignorance is bliss? Ignore the problem and it will go away? Failing to prepare is preparing to fail.
Well, then enlighten us all with your hockey wisdom
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by El Duque's Raft on Dec 30, 2009 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
Pucks are hard?
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 30, 2009 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
I was telling you to worry about April when April comes
All the bitching and moaning in the world isnt going to get Stan Bowman to do what you want. You have no control over what the Hawks decide to do. Learn to deal with it.
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by El Duque's Raft on Dec 30, 2009 1:16 PM CST up reply actions
However, I do believe that the fans are of utmost importance to the Hawks and if there was enough discontent both with the players and the fans about the goaltending, well….
I gave up once on this silliness
I’m going to give up again. I was trying to help you and explain why people were treating you with such scorn. Goes to show you can’t help the helpless.
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by El Duque's Raft on Dec 30, 2009 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
What exactly is a blog for? I though it was for discussions regarding the team. Is questioning a player’s ability and raising questions about a team’s capabilities and potential prohibited here? Is this just for blindly praising a team like Cubs fans do year in and year out?
No, discussions are fine
but when you spew diarrhea with no regard to statistics and simply based on some self-judgment, well, then you’re going rile up some people because there isn’t much patience for dead-horse arguments.
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by El Duque's Raft on Dec 30, 2009 1:35 PM CST up reply actions
I would be happy to post articles and statistics to support my argument/discussion/point of view/opinion. Did you happen to see the one about Huet never being a number one goalie anywhere before, Interesting for someone in his 30s, huh.
That was asked for earlier, and?
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 30, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
Your knowledge of the game of hockey is second to none.
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by El Duque's Raft on Dec 30, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
Yup
right behind it…;)
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 30, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
You all are very easy to get worked up…if you all really think Cristobal Huet is that good…it is you who are hockey ignorant. Spin any stat, etc etc…he has bounced around for years for a reason, has never been a #1 for a reason, has never won a playoff series for a reason, has a bottom half of the league sv% for a reason…HE IS NOT VERY GOOD.
I hope to God that the Hawks offense and defense dominates like it should for the rest of the year and in the playoffs so I don’t have to say I told you so. I want nothing more than for this team to win. I have loyally watched in horror and disappointment for years as Wirtz dumped his shit product on the ice and this team may be the most exciting team in hockey since the 80s Oilers.
Start a website that Dale Tallon Sucks
because that’s who you should be directing your anger at.
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by El Duque's Raft on Dec 30, 2009 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure he was #1 in Montreal
AND in the same season in Washington.
Why did Montreal trade him to Wash? $$$$$$
Carey Price cost less. Look what that did for them. Halak is probably their #1 now.
How much fun would we be having right now if we were debating who was worse Niemi or Crawford. We would most certainly NOT be in the top of West. Most likely bubble playoff team.
"Stay thirsty my friend"
he split with Aebischer in Montreal and was only with washington briefly (13 games). he was also a 7th round pick.
Also interesting to note are the multiple websites out there that are dedicated to “Huet Sucks” For some reason I can’t find those for other goalies on Stanley Cup contenders. I wonder why he draws so much ire? Maybe his play has something to do with it. Good day sir.
lol
Now there’s a good reason to think Huet is bad.
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by El Duque's Raft on Dec 30, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
I can find the same thing for Lance Armstrong.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 30, 2009 1:43 PM CST up reply actions
Oh God,
He said good day! Now whatever shall I do?
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 30, 2009 1:44 PM CST up reply actions
I though it was for discussions regarding the team.
The way you wrote that is interesting.
A discussion is an excange of ideas.
Exchange is not just posting the same opinion over and over.
Exchange is give and take.
Now then, give it a rest, and take a break on this one.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 30, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
love a good cubs shot
sounds like someone has had the “attendance” argument crammed down their throats one too many times eh?
Sounds like you know as much about cub fans as you do about what is good for the Hawks…….bravo sir, bravo
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
hahahahaha.
i like that websites made my other ignorant morons that troll the internet were just part of this ignorant moron’s argument.
i’m convinced now- huet sucks. the blackhawks suck. life sucks. fuck everything ever forever.
by bangbangerang on Dec 31, 2009 7:07 AM CST up reply actions
Ryan Miller was pulled last night
There goes the Gold medal he really sucks!
Oh by the way his team didn’t panic they lit up Fleury for 5 goals.
Fleury sucks too!
Brodeur was pulled after his 105 shutout. He is way past his prime.
Luongo is intimidated by Buff. He sucks!
Tony Esposito had 15 shutouts in one season and is top 10 goalie of all time. No cup for him, he sucks!
"Stay thirsty my friend"
are you aware HUET HAS NEVER WON A PLAYOFF SERIES!
I sure am glad he is backstopping this team and getting paid so much. In fact, he has never been a team’s #1 goalie. Doesn’t seem like a great choice given the goal of this team. This is not development time for a 30+ year old goalie.
hhmmm
I didn’t know that. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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by El Duque's Raft on Dec 30, 2009 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
i agree with esquire
More times than not we have to count on huet not losing us the game by letting in soft goals.
For laaarmer…guys like luongo and brodeur win games for their team…we hardly get that from huet. Throw around all the stats you want, but you look at game play and the kinda shit that those goalies do…yes huet is maybe a middle of the road goalie.
Pain is a good reminder you are alive
by Bad Ass Burish on Dec 30, 2009 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well then you agree with the others then
because esquire is the only one claiming Huet can’t be relied upon. It seems as though everyone else is quite aware that he’s a middle of the road goalie. And that’s not necessarily a bad thing.
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by El Duque's Raft on Dec 30, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
So you want a middle of the road...
unreliable goalie leading you into the playoffs and a run at the cup? Here is your Mercedes sir that you paid top dollar for, but it has a Chevy engine in it, are you ok with that?
I'm good with that
The Chevy engine is easier to work on and more reliable and cheaper to fix.
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
middle of the road goalie
People are comparing goalies in the past, but look at rest of the team as well as the goalies. Last year the penguins had cup expierence as a younger team with a middle of the road goalie. The year before that the red wings were a veteren team with osgood in net. You can compare numbers all you want, but the hawks are not in the same situation as either of those teams.
Pain is a good reminder you are alive
by Bad Ass Burish on Dec 30, 2009 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
*sigh*
I give up. This is impossible.
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by El Duque's Raft on Dec 30, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
Yes they are,
the Hawks have Hossa. Kind of exactly the same…
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 30, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions
oh nevermind i am wrong
Pain is a good reminder you are alive
by Bad Ass Burish on Dec 30, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
Like Osgood
Fleury, Khaby,
BTW – I said above Huet sucked last night, but he doesn’t suck every night. To be compared to a squirt goalie is “absurd”
All Huet has to do is keep them in the game. Last night he could not do that.
He can get the job done.
"Stay thirsty my friend"
The entire argument is simple…are you all comfortable relying on Huet to win a game or multiple games in the playoffs if theHawks offense or defense lets down for a game or games. This is a must in the playoffs and there are games in every playoff run for every team that has won a cup where this has happened. Like I said before, I have not seen Huet win one game for the Hawks through his play when the team was struggling. So, can any of you say you are comfortable that he can do this or not?
Nothing is simple, and this is not an argument. This is just the counterproductive flogging of a post-mortal equine.
You have your opinion, and it reeks like an overloaded water treatment facility. All the arguing in the world is not going to prove you right. Time will tell, but only if you’re ears are open will you hear.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 30, 2009 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
Fuck
your, not you’re
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 30, 2009 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
Through all of your similes, I dont see anywhere in your reply where you say you are comfy with huey standing on his head for a few games…..interesting.
I am “comfy” with Huet standing on his head for a few games.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 30, 2009 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
Heh...
The leopard spotted one.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 30, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions
no one cares
screw his game play…look at his stats
Pain is a good reminder you are alive
by Bad Ass Burish on Dec 30, 2009 1:06 PM CST up reply actions
ugh
Yea we shouldn’t compare players based on numbers. We should compare them by:
1. Comfiness with Head-standing
2. Easy-Goals Given Up Rating System
3. Toews Post-Game Face Scale
by ChargingMajor on Dec 30, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
taking stats by face value
and not analyzing them is a great idea
Pain is a good reminder you are alive
by Bad Ass Burish on Dec 30, 2009 1:48 PM CST up reply actions
Uhhh...
I looked back through your comments… I could not see any post from you saying that Huet “did good”. I admit that I was just scrolling through, but you are the one who stated the following,
Again, I will cheer him when he does well and when he plays like he did last night and in several other games, i will say that he sucked.
Notice, I am not “jumping on you” I am just bringing up a point.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 30, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions
IIRC
You did not in any way imply you would cheer him on. In fact, I could’ve sworn you tried to argue to have Niemi as our #1. And what is with you calling people names, douchebag?
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
He doesn't suck.
He isn’t among the NHL elite, but he’s more than enough to make a run for the cup with.
Take a look at Chargingmajor’s last post about the last few Stanley Cup winning goalies. Huet matches up fine, and that’s despite a pretty dismal start.
This desire to shellshock Huet into a Grossman-like defeated zombie, is so counterproductive and stupid, that’s why you see people defending Huet against people like yourself.
I be on my green like Irish Spring.
by chrome on Dec 30, 2009 11:08 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
If someone goes all "Tonya Harding"
On Sopel’s knee resulting in a season ending injury does insurance pick up his salary?
After watching him try to skate it appears he’s already been whacked a few hundred times. The only skill worse than his skating is his puck handling. He can’t go more than 1 stride without looking down to see if the puck is still near his stick. If he had to do a drill where you can’t look down he’d be skating around the ice like a blind man with a walking stick in a maze.
by Duck99 on Dec 30, 2009 11:09 AM CST via mobile reply actions
We could just get Mike Komisarek
to murder him as soon as he’s done dumping Jeff Finger’s body into Lake Ontario.
by HungryHungryPanda on Dec 30, 2009 11:51 AM CST up reply actions
Great write-up, Sam
And with the added bonus of this gem:
…just like Steve Ott spits back Ribeiro’s semen at him after he’s done blowing him in the shower.
You were successful in making me gag. Absolutely disgusting. Bravo!
Huet/VS
Ok first Huet was bad and the turnover ratio and dumb mistakes also killed us. Huet is allowed a bad game and I’m not hating on him. Can’t get a shutout everynight but either way we didn’t do enough to win in the 2nd and 3rd period.
OH and were the announcers from Dallas? First they bored the shit out of me and 2nd I could swear all they talked about was Dallas. There coverage for last nights game was AWFUL!!
Either way we should come out strong and play better against NJ. Lets go Hawks!
Since you mentioned the announcers, I have to comment on what I felt was the best part of last nights game.
Puck sent into corner and VS goes to stupid isolation camera where you can’t see anything, and the announcer mentions how awsome that camera angle was. The entire time I’m thinking, yeah, it’s great, but I don’t know what is going on.
Huet's Goals
First, my last post about Huet’s twitching was more tongue in cheek than anything.
Everyone is talking about how good Huet’s stats are. But the one thing I haven’t really seen talked about is the quality of the goals Huet let’s by him. Sure, he’s got relatively amazing stats as everyone is pointing out. But he lets the worst goals in. And you can see it deflating the team. The announcers mentioned it last night, but I’ve seen it throughout the season. Those soft goals go in, and the looks on the player’s faces scream, “Not again.” And no, not all the goals are Huet’s fault. Sopel being caught flat footed. Turnovers. Bad play. But then after the game Toews (good captain that he is) and co. has to rush in and deflect some of the Huet-hate. It has to be distracting.
by hawks4624 on Dec 30, 2009 12:11 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Oh no
now we’re trying to figure what professional athletes are thinking based on facial expressions
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by El Duque's Raft on Dec 30, 2009 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
You know what the Hawks need?
They need a player that is Arabian…
Then we would have a new horse to beat to DEATH!
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 30, 2009 1:02 PM CST reply actions
Yea but he would be another Olympian for sure
by ChargingMajor on Dec 30, 2009 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
so Bowman needs to find a way to acquire Nazem Kadri?
by Crease Monkey on Dec 30, 2009 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
yikes
i read the first 10-15 comments on this thread and moved on
Please sir,
may I have a job?
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 30, 2009 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
Electronic Tech
I have worked in Process Controls, Flow Valve calibration and repair, and for a turnkey EMS plant as a SMT programer, trainer for SMT rework, supervisor of Hand Solder, and process control.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 30, 2009 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
can you fix my Harmon Kardon CDR30 component cd burner?
by Crease Monkey on Dec 30, 2009 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
Probably
but I live in Decatur right now.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 30, 2009 4:32 PM CST up reply actions
Hubby works at Motorola
Last time I asked him he said there’s no jobs there, but if you want to forward me your resume, I can send it to him, see if he has anything or knows anyone hiring. For obvious reasons (ie trolls) I’m not going to post my e-mail addy here, but if you know me, you should be able to figure it out.
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
Nope,
I’m not sure why, but evidentally I don’t know you well enough.
my name is “tony” my wifes name is “denise” and my last name is “teague”, and we reside at “yahoo”
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 30, 2009 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
e-mail sent
hopefully I got it right. ;)
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
I'll sum it up for you
HUET SUXORZ – I NOW PRESENT NUMBERS AS PROOF
Huet is good enough, and most of the numbers say that.
I WANTS NIEMI PLAY NET STOP PUCK NOW!
Ugh.
That is pretty much it.
wait what?
You've made your point so-crates.
Maybe go sledding for a few hours now?
I be on my green like Irish Spring.
actually...
I was kind of hoping that since now he’s established that Huet sucks, perhaps he’d favor us with some brilliant general manager strategies for moving him or burying his cap hit in Rockford. Then maybe we can hear some advance scouting on who we can bring in for a backup in the 5% of games Antii “The Redeemer” Niemi doesn’t start for the rest of the year.
...Feeding Rene Bourque his own dick since 11/19/09
by Hjammer of the Gods on Dec 30, 2009 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
I hear that Mikita guy is pretty good.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 30, 2009 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
AS I SAID EARLIER>>>>>
I am not saying that the Hawks have a better option RIGHT NOW. I just think it blows that we are stuck with a weak unproven 35 year old goaltender that could undo an unbelievable team. They should have never signed him in the first place, especially for the ridiculous money they paid him given his history (never a # 1). Based on statistics, Huet and Niemi give up 3 goals a game about equally so it seems that hawks lose nothing by playing Niemi but could gain something giving him the experience by splitting the time more equally and seeing how good Niemi really is.
Huet is 23rd in the league on a team that is first in the league in points. I think if you look at the other point leading teams, their goalies are all near the top in their statistical categories. He is their weakness. Period. He could easily sabotage a playoff series for them with his soft play. Just because i can’t acquire a goalie TODAY does not mean the hawks should not be looking and does not mean that he has shown he is a reliable playoff goalie (0 series wins.) He can suck even though there is not an immediate solution to filling his spot. They are separate issues. I don’t really understand why people can’t see it for just that, he is not very good. Yes, we are stuck with him for now and I hope the Hawks can overcome his subpar skills.
So...
…you admit there are no real personnel options here. Why again would we not wait and see how our guys are doing in April?
Huet has three shut-outs this year. I defy you to find a goalie on the planet who would have had a better result in those games.
Fleury is behind Huey in SV%.
If you just wanted to vent your spleen about an acquisition two years ago, I hope you feel better now.
Huet has three shut-outs this year. I defy you to find a goalie on the planet who would have had a better result in those games.
Lazy french bastard should have scored a goal.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 30, 2009 3:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry cliffkoroll, I couldn’t help it… :P
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 30, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions
The huet nut hugging is strong in this blog
Fuck making sense… good playoff teams will be so scared of GAA that they will stop shooting, his SV% will make those clutch game saving stops in big games, and his SO will be the weapon that drops sarah kustok’s panties. FUCK YEAH HUET!
Pain is a good reminder you are alive
by Bad Ass Burish on Dec 30, 2009 6:18 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, look at how he's undoing the team now...
that we only have 55pts out of 78 is all on him.
by chiblackhawks on Dec 31, 2009 12:32 AM CST up reply actions
yeah, because I almost eluded to that
Pain is a good reminder you are alive
by Bad Ass Burish on Dec 31, 2009 9:40 AM CST up reply actions
Ugh...
Huet is 5th in GAA… That’s the amount of goals against per game… So he’s not 23rd he’s 5th…..
Numbers are fun….
Maybe I should read everything.....
Sorry Laaarmer…..
2.13 GAA 4th in the league Stats are stats.
Not 3 goals. Niemi stats are better, but he is not listed because not enough games?
This team is good enough to be good enough to beat any team in the league in a seven game series. Huet allows 2.13 goals in a game.
I know, it’s that .13 that will get him.
If Keith, Seabrook, Campbell, or Toews gets hurt, things will be different.
2.13 GAA gets the job done. Would it be better if we had an 18 year old Roy or Brodeur? Yes it would. We don’t.
I will cheer for Huet all season, Neimi as well. Huet is just good enough to allow this team to be in the top 4-5 teams in the league.
In the end all that matters is W’s. He is 11th in the league in wins and all 10 ahead of him have played more games. If he had played 35 games like Brodeur, there is a pretty good chance he would have 24 wins like Brodeur.
This team is awesome. The goalies are good enough. Esquire — enjoy it
"Stay thirsty my friend"
by laaarmer on Dec 30, 2009 3:20 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I know he averages 2.13 goals a game, Niemi averages 1.75. I was comparing when they give up 3 goals or more and they have done it about equally. I am enjoying it, I just lose my mind when I see goaltending like I have seen out of Huet recently. my apologies to everyone here for wasting all of your time.
TOGETHER
they are good enough to take them where we want to see them go. I am having a great time watching this season with my kids. It will be fun to watch the whole thing play out whatever the outcome.
They can beat any team in the league (except Dallas).
When Hossa gets his game figured out, they could score more goals than Huet can possibly give up.
"Stay thirsty my friend"
Niemi Sucks
Before subbing in last night, in 2 of his last 3 games he let in 4 goals, and had save percentages of .800 and .862. We need a better backup to play behind Huet
wait what?
Kane sucks too
He never gets a hat trick. He is really starting to worry me
"Stay thirsty my friend"
I don’t know, what is Sopels save percentage? I know he has blocked a shit load of shots this year, well, inbetween his post-in-the-ground impressions.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 30, 2009 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
Knae and Huet both suck as goaltenders........enough said
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
Kane would rock as a goalie
Cause his lazy ass could just stand there, and all the pucks would come to him.
All your pucks are belong to us.
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
....meanwhile this guy keeps shuffling and stumbling on
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
Good Lord people
In less than 24 hours after one bad game, the comments thread here has really degenerated as far as the Huet vs. Niemi argument is concerned. Yeah, OK, Huet’s let in some softies. He’s also stood on his head when needed. Guess what? Every pro athlete has their stellar days and their dog days.
Huet so far hasn’t crapped the bed to the point some of you think he has. He’s done better than many expected, which seems to really piss off the meatballs. Now every bad game he has, which ain’t many, the meatballs jump out with “SEE?? WE TOLD YOU SO!!!” You want Niemi? Crawford? You gonna defend them when we start jumping all over their shit when they crap the bed for a night? What’s your defense? Hmmmmm, I bet it’s “Well, hey, everyone has a bad game every now and then.” Evidently this isn’t a luxury to be afforded to Huet.
"Andre, as you know, has been living in semi-seclusion in Northern Quebec ever since the unfortunate Denny Pratt tragedy. "
by Sergei Skateyerassov on Dec 30, 2009 11:03 PM CST reply actions
trade cam barker
sure barker has a good shot but he constantly gets caught flat footed and lately refuses to hit anybody other than marshmallows. jordan henry has stepped up his game and needs to be playing. maybe we can trade barker for chelios
That,
would make me happy, and most of the people on this site bitch like esquire02.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 31, 2009 9:22 AM CST up reply actions
Actually Esquireo2 is quite refreshing
breaks the chain The Emperor has no clothes" routine that goes on here
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
Thanks
I am glad someone else can SEE that. God forbid someone offer an opinion that upsets this little cozy group of lemmings illusion of a utopia based on the rules of: let’s all pat each other on the back, let’s all agree, don’t want to upset any of the regulars by disagreeing on any point, defend each other although we have never met, and ignore the facts. Lets just gang up on the new guy because we dont like what he said…God forbid an independent thought is offered…
That is the whole problem, you have offered ONE opinion, and refuse to let it go. I have seen very few “regular” posters here that say that we are living in utopia. Most of them will admit that there are problems, “Looking at you Sopel.” Now then, having said that, THE FUCKING SKY IS NOT FALLING! THE FUCKING TEAM IS NOT IN LAST PLACE. STOP BEATING THE DEAD HORSE. THERE ARE WORSE GOALIES TO HAVE THAN HUET.
And let’s not forget my two personal favorites, DETROIT SUCKS! and SHOOOOOOOOT!!1
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Dec 31, 2009 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
THERE ARE WORSE GOALIES TO HAVE THAN HUET
and tonight, it was Broduer. Pure fucking poetry.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 1, 2010 12:29 AM CST up reply actions
Your problem, Esq, is one of tone...
…There’s a tiny grain of truth in what you say about the “orthodoxy” here. For the most part, however these “orthodoixies” are well-thought out and have been hashed out over months or years on this board.
The orthodox view is sometimes distorted, particularly as a reaction to Campbell and Huey bashers. Again, this is not to say that criticism of these guys is never warranted, but there is a tiring drumbeat against them that draws ignorant fans like moths to a flame.
The complaints, like yours, are never really constructive, just venting, which is fine, but God knows how many keystrokes have been spilled on this site by Huey and Campbell haters. It gets old, and sometimes the orthodoxy is a bit quick to defend these guys, but damn if they haven’t been vindicated so far this year.
In closing, state your views, don’t be a deustche bank, and you should find a forum way beyond what is on offer elsewhere on the subject.
by cliffkoroll on Jan 1, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
steve ott
steve ott was open all night because he is really steve the pirate from dodgeball
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