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The Curse is broken - Hawks win in San Jose

The Hawks actually won this one?  In regulation?  Even with that bizarre first period?

Wow.

Right from the start this was one hell of a game.  First shift for Toews ends up with him roofing one over Nobokov to end his two game shutout streak and put the Hawks up in fine position for the rest of the game. 

Halfway through the first Bolland put in another great chance to take a huge two goal lead with plenty of time left... wait.. what?

For those that didn't read the comments here's the rule:

78.5 Disallowed Goals – Apparent goals shall be disallowed by the Referee and the appropriate announcement made by the Public Address Announcer for the following reasons:

(viii) When a Linesman reports a double-minor penalty for high-sticking, a major penalty or a match penalty to the Referee following the scoring of a goal by the offending team, the goal must be disallowed and the appropriate penalty assessed.

So the refs got it right.. no complaint there.  Here's the bitching though - why not let the linesmen stop play?  And if you don't want to change that - then why not set time back on the clock?  It was 2-3 minutes of play before the Hawks goal.. what if it went longer?  What if it had been later in the game and the period ended before a stoppage in play? Why just a double-minor high-sticking penalty? 

Great to see the zebras also show how stupid the penalty is by putting the wrong Hawk in the box.. Granted VERSTEEG! and Kane are about the same size so it's not like when Foley confuses Kris and Buff..

Here's another complaint about stupid NHL rules - everyone seems to be under the assumption that a high-stick that draws blood is cause for a 4 minute in the box.  Here's the actual rule though:

Double-minor Penalty - When a player or goalkeeper carries or holds any part of his stick above the shoulders of the opponent so that injury results, the Referee shall assess a double-minor penalty for all contact that causes an injury, whether accidental or careless, in the opinion of the Referee.

When injury results?  So yeah, if there's blood.. that's an injury.  What about a bruise?  Just a bit sore?  Others have railed on this stupid rule before but if it had cost the Hawks the game we'd have a hell of a lot more on it.. but it didn't.  So fuck it.

Even though the Sharks were able to even up the game the Hawks didn't let up the attack.  This was exactly the kind of game we've been waiting to see for a few weeks now.  Every shift was on - Everyone was flying around creating chances, blocking shots, getting in the way and generally annoying the shit out of the Sharks.  We saw some of that frustration come out late in the third when the Sharks really started throwing their bodies around.  Thankfully the Hawks were smart enough not to take the bait and continue to stay on their game.  Toews and VERSTEEG! both had great games - We'll still have to wait for Toews' first hat trick but I don't think we'll have to wait forever.

The Hawks finally showed they were able to beat a high-caliber team even if they do it while still going something around 11 for 89 on the face-offs (approx.) - that might be something they want to work on, but for now lets all just savor these two points and get ready for another trip up to Western Canada..

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Glad January is over

Took 15 out of a possible 28 points, not as good as I had hoped but not bad considering how they played for a lot of the month. Hopefully last night was a better indicator of how they’ll be playing from here on out.

"Yeah, you can write, you can feel, you can think. Whaddaya want, a medal?" - Paul Westerberg

by Edbird on Feb 1, 2009 10:12 AM CST reply actions  

so i don’t understand what’s wrong with the assumption that if it draws blood its an injury? your going to have subjective calls in every sport as to what a ref feels is the proper call. the important thing is to make sure the refs are impartial. i would like to see statistics to see how the numbers look when a canadian team faces an american team. personally, i feel that american teams (on average) get penalized more.

by torpedo0126 on Feb 1, 2009 11:12 AM CST reply actions  

Fair enough..

But here’s something else I thought of recently. Cheechoo went to the locker room right after he left the ice and had to be called BACK out to the bench once the refs heard about the call. I don’t think this happened, but who is to say that the Sharks (or any other team this could happen to) couldn’t embellish the injury while the player is in the locker room?

If this happened in a close game in the playoffs I could imagine there’d be some pretty desperate teams. There’s just too much room for error when you let an unknown period of time pass between the actual penalty and when it’s called.

by Killion on Feb 2, 2009 8:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Even though the Hawks ended up winning, I’m still a little steamed about that first period. One, even after seeing the replay like 100 times, the refs still got the wrong guy in the box, and Versteeg is a much better PK man than Kane. And even though that is the rule, it is incredibly stupid. How is it possible that you can have a rule that allows 4 minutes of hockey to disappear into thin air. Either you let linesman call penalties, or you just leave it. If the referee doesn’t call the penalty, it’s not a penalty. It’s just wrong to call a penalty 4 minutes after it happens. Even with that it was a fantastic game for Toews and Versteeg was excellent in his first game back. Hope we can ride this momentum into Edmonton.

"When I die I hope they don't cremate me 'cuz I'll burn forever."-Harry Caray

by dutchboy93 on Feb 1, 2009 12:05 PM CST reply actions  

I agree.

the situation ended up being moot in this game, but why wait until the rule affects the outcome of a game to change it?

I hope someone from the NHL took notice, because it really is a ridiculous rule.

by mjthor on Feb 1, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

What an exciting year for hockey

The Hawks are back, finally beating San Jose, they are selling out the United Center consistently, hockey jersey sales are flying out the roof…..looks like hockey is back my friends! Go Hawks

WOW WHAT A SEASON!

by SouthsideCUBSfan on Feb 1, 2009 1:25 PM CST reply actions  

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