Trade Deadline Bonanza!!: Hour 4
12:40: We start off hour four with Antoine Vermette being interviewed on one channel and Vesa Toskala being interviewed on the TSN streaming. Fuck. My. Life.
12:45: Still waiting on officialy word about Moore. LaGreca reported it on NHL LIve, possibly for a 2nd round pick, but still haven't heard anything else.
12:50: More on Moore, though not official. According to Behind the Net, he hasn't been that good on special teams, but is a plus player at even-strength. There's no spot for him on the PP, maybe on the kill, though Toews should be first replacement there.
12:52: The Leafs are telling TSN that Moore has not been dealt to us. This was always going to go pear-shaped at some point.
12:53: TSN is reporting that Peter Forsberg is retiring today, and in other news, tomorrow's thursday.
12:55: Bob McKenzie puts down the sandwich long enough to report that talks over Moore have broken down, and the Hawks are turning their attention to Sammy Pahlsson of Anaheim.
12:58: TSN is on fire here, as now the Avs say there's no announcement tonight about Forsberg, due to lack of interest. Also Guerin seems to be going to Pittsburgh.
1:01: Pahlsson isn't the pick up that Moore would, despite the rep. Good faceoff guy for sure, but overrated as a defensive center, and nothing at the other end. He's a negative player in +/- and Behind the net, has been for a few years. One good playoff run, though. Maybe he can repeat that. As Bart said to Homer the Train conductor, "Think harder, Homer."
1:15: Absolutely nothing going on right now. I'm looking forward to my nap.
1:18: Oh shit, Pierre McGuire is standing up now! He means business! What a douche!
1:20: Anyone else starting to worry that we won't end up with a center today?
1:23: I'm sitting here listening to Jim Fox talk about his groin pain. I think it's time to make some changes...
1:27: Thanks to Hawk Is God for pointing us to Pierre LeBrun's report that Havlat and the hawks are close to an extension, and won't be moved. However, it's been rumored to close for weeks now, and the longer it's "close" and not "done" makes me queasy.
1:31: I'm sorry, TSN is up to 13 analysts for this. There's a group of old guys on the left here they go to once every couple of hours. They're obviously the remedial class.
1:41: Malin Akerman looks so fucking hot as Laurie Jupiter. I'm so fucking ready for Watchmen. I'm gonna keep swearing out of boredom.
1:42: TSN reporting the Leafs are holding out for more than a 2nd round pick for both Antropov and Moore. good fucking luck, Burke.
1:45: Phoenix has send Daniel Carcillo to Philly for Scottie Upshall, because Philly didn't have enough slobs on their roster.
1:48: Antropov has gone to the Rangers. That dam is breaking, we'll see what Antropov went for, Moore certainly couldn't go for more.
1:50: TSN reporting it's a 2nd and a conditional for Antropov. So a 2nd for Moore is more than reasonable. Keep firing, assholes!
1:55: Five minutes to go here, Dale needs to land us Moore. There isn't anything else out there. 2nd round pick, throw in some late rounder if you have to.
2:00 Deadline is here. I'll stick around for another hour or so, news of these deals comes late sometimes. Well, wasn't this fun?
2:04: Derek Morris has gone to NYR for Kalinen, Nigel Dawes, and Petr Prucha, which seems like a lot. I've always wondered about Prucha, broke into the league with 28 goals, Renney then shuttered him, and Rangers fans were never able to figure out why.
2:04: Dominic Moore is going somewhere, TSN reports...
2:07: Watching Matthew Barnaby in the background is fucking hilarious, and I can't tell you why.
2:09: Moore went to Buffalo for a 2nd round pick, which I find it shocking we couldn't have come up with. It's looking shockingly like Dale is going to come up empty.
2:12: Time for a rant here: I have to say if this is all that's going to happen it's very disappointing. I didn't want a blockbuster deal or anything, but a 2nd rounder is all Moore cost? It's not like we're trying to replace someone, WE DON'T HAVE A #3 CENTER. It's an open spot. You can't go into the playoffs with Tim Brent being iced. Sharp back to the middle? Seems the only option now. He had some chemistry with VerStud, but he's hit a wall. This is not encouraging.
2:20: Right, I think that's it. If there's word of a deal, I'll chime back in, but it looks like the Hawks come up empty on deadline day. Thanks for sticking around, I hope you enjoyed it.
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toskala out for the year???
thats what I read???
"Oh, that's easy. White Sox. I'm not one of these fair-weather fans. You go to Wrigley Field, you have a beer; beautiful people up there. People aren't watching the game. It's not serious. White Sox, that's baseball. South Side." -O'Bama
by Hawk is God on Mar 4, 2009 12:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Watching on tsn right now … yup, he’s now on IR, scheduled to have some surgery next week.
No details on Moore yet??? Is this a credible lead, or just something tossed about?
by ChicoMaki on Mar 4, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nhl.com mentioned it before a commercial break 20 min sgo.
not a word since
"Oh, that's easy. White Sox. I'm not one of these fair-weather fans. You go to Wrigley Field, you have a beer; beautiful people up there. People aren't watching the game. It's not serious. White Sox, that's baseball. South Side." -O'Bama
by Hawk is God on Mar 4, 2009 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
tsn just this second reporting that Toronto is claiming it’s a false rumour
by ChicoMaki on Mar 4, 2009 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm getting annoyed
from espn.com
Hradek (1:50 p.m. ET): A source says the Hawks are close to a deal for Leafs C Dominic Moore. We don’t know if it’s done … we’re working to confirm it.
"Oh, that's easy. White Sox. I'm not one of these fair-weather fans. You go to Wrigley Field, you have a beer; beautiful people up there. People aren't watching the game. It's not serious. White Sox, that's baseball. South Side." -O'Bama
by Hawk is God on Mar 4, 2009 12:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i wouldnt trust espn with anything, there analysts outside of melrose are a joke
Lets Go Hawks!
by CubsBall2202 on Mar 4, 2009 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That doesn't mean they don't have sources and access to inside information
There’s a difference between being a good reporter and a good analyst.
by thejd44 on Mar 4, 2009 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I understand your hesitance
But Hradek is one of the few who knows what he’s doing around there.
by SamFels on Mar 4, 2009 12:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
more updates
LeBrun (1:58 p.m. ET): Just heard from the Toronto war room and the Leafs deny having dealt Dominic Moore to Chicago … stay tuned.
Must be because we have a deal for Antropov :)
"Oh, that's easy. White Sox. I'm not one of these fair-weather fans. You go to Wrigley Field, you have a beer; beautiful people up there. People aren't watching the game. It's not serious. White Sox, that's baseball. South Side." -O'Bama
by Hawk is God on Mar 4, 2009 1:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
tsn was reporting teh false Moore rumour 10/15 minutes ago (see above). I hate Pierre Maguire more than any other single announcer, but the others no the site are pretty solid, and well connected. TSN.ca has a live feed going right now if anyone’s interested …
by ChicoMaki on Mar 4, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Guerin to Pens for a 5th round pick, conditional. If Pens make the playoffs, it’s a 4th rounder; if they win a round, it’s a 3rd rounder. That seems like a steal for a legitimate scorer to play beside Crosby.
by ChicoMaki on Mar 4, 2009 1:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
HAVLAT BONER TIME!!!!!!!!!!
LeBrun (2:15 p.m. ET): Just a quick note on Martin Havlat. He’s close to signing a multiyear deal, but it won’t be completed today. But they’re close enough where the Hawks are not going to move him today.
"Oh, that's easy. White Sox. I'm not one of these fair-weather fans. You go to Wrigley Field, you have a beer; beautiful people up there. People aren't watching the game. It's not serious. White Sox, that's baseball. South Side." -O'Bama
by Hawk is God on Mar 4, 2009 1:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Moore won't be resigned.
A second round pick is more than enough.
by chrome on Mar 4, 2009 1:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
antropov to nyr
"Oh, that's easy. White Sox. I'm not one of these fair-weather fans. You go to Wrigley Field, you have a beer; beautiful people up there. People aren't watching the game. It's not serious. White Sox, that's baseball. South Side." -O'Bama
by Hawk is God on Mar 4, 2009 1:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
A couple options
ESPN just reported Chicago is still mulling over a couple center options.
by Old World Flavor on Mar 4, 2009 1:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
1:41: Malin Akerman looks so fucking hot as Laurie Jupiter. I’m so fucking ready for Watchmen. I’m gonna keep swearing out of boredom.
look who made the front page today
http://egotastic.com/
"Oh, that's easy. White Sox. I'm not one of these fair-weather fans. You go to Wrigley Field, you have a beer; beautiful people up there. People aren't watching the game. It's not serious. White Sox, that's baseball. South Side." -O'Bama
by Hawk is God on Mar 4, 2009 2:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i’ve got midnight tickets for Watchmen.. i’m pumped
by Matthew Dirt on Mar 4, 2009 8:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh dear
LeBrun (2:59 p.m. ET): Just confirmed the Nik Antropov deal to the New York Rangers. The Leafs get a second-round pick plus a another conditional pick, which will depend on how many rounds, if any, that the Rangers win in the playoffs. We also hear the Leafs are talking about a three-way trade involving Dominic Moore.
"Oh, that's easy. White Sox. I'm not one of these fair-weather fans. You go to Wrigley Field, you have a beer; beautiful people up there. People aren't watching the game. It's not serious. White Sox, that's baseball. South Side." -O'Bama
by Hawk is God on Mar 4, 2009 2:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
No Moore
Looks like Buffalo landed Moore
by Old World Flavor on Mar 4, 2009 2:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Had to be because of Cap issues, right?
Otherwise not doing anything just doesn’t make sense. Oh, and did anyone pick up Adams off waivers?
by AngryHack on Mar 4, 2009 2:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well, that's a shame.
Finally the Tallon contract blunders of last offseason come back to bite us.
by chrome on Mar 4, 2009 2:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
How does the NHL draft work?
Are picks assigned by point total? Is there a lottery?
I’m just wondering if Buffalo’s 2nd rounder is worth more than a Hawks’ 2nd rounder due to Buffalo having a worse record.
White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.
by vince_ on Mar 4, 2009 2:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yup exactly
Buffalo has a worse record than the ‘Hawks therefore their 2nd round pick will somewhere in the 40’s. My guess is Toronto wanted 2nd round and a conditional from the ‘Hawks and they felt he wasn’t worth that much.
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Mar 4, 2009 2:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Draft picks are gold baby!
Dale really must be eyeing someone with that 55th pick of next year’s draft.
by DetroitSucks! on Mar 4, 2009 2:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm not too upset....
as long as we get this Havlat deal done now. I wasn’t all that excited about Moore.
by Old World Flavor on Mar 4, 2009 2:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Nor was I, until I realized how cheaply
he could be had.
by chrome on Mar 4, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Pahlsson from Anaheim
for Wisnewski, up a few different places
by lordcrapulus on Mar 4, 2009 2:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
"up a few different places"
¿QUE?
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
by mjthor on Mar 4, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just shaking my head
We need a center and we get a guy who has 15 points in 52 games with a -16 plus/minus coming off of mono……
And we let Moore go when a decent draft pick or one of our other mediocre people could have closed the deal.
Not that Moore was the second coming, but he scored three times as many points this year as Pahlsson
by Return of the Roar on Mar 4, 2009 2:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Puck Prospectus not digging plus/minus these days
White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.
by vince_ on Mar 4, 2009 3:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yikes.
I’ll read it all when I get home, but it looks like the type of shit I like — actual statistical analysis. I’m guessing Puck Prospectus is like Baseball Prospectus but for hockey? If that’s the case, then they’re probably right, but nobody who matters will listen to them.
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
by mjthor on Mar 4, 2009 3:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Its more a call to arms
than any deep analysis yet – pointing out the major flaws with the plus/minus system, but no detailed alternative or analysis yet.
White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.
by vince_ on Mar 4, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, throw out the plus/minus
1. TSN reports that Pahlsson also has an abdominal injury to go with the mono for which he has not been medically cleared of yet.
2. Wiz was one of the only d-line players we had that could clear the puck out of the d-zone, block shots, and actually throw a check once in a while.
Now I am just waiting to hear how Khabi will go back to the Ukraine to finish his career and how we can look forward to five hole Huet to get us through the playoffs.
Dale, I love ya man, but you are no GM.
by Return of the Roar on Mar 4, 2009 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Injuries handcuffed Tallon
Now that I think about it, the injuries to Sopel and Khabi probably had as much to do with Dale’s inactivity as anything. They were both mentioned in trade rumors earlier in the season and together take up about 10 million in cap space. Now it’s no sure thing that either of them would’ve been traded, but they would’ve been decent bargaining chips and might’ve brought the Hawks a better player than Moore or Pahlsson.
by DetroitSucks! on Mar 4, 2009 4:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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