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I Have To Sum This Up??!!!!: Hawks 3, Canucks 5

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Well, that sucked.  And then it didn't.  Then it kinda did.  If you've come to this wrap hoping to find out how you should feel, I can't help you.  I have no idea how I feel about it.  There's much to like, and much to not.  Chicago is watching one series filled with insanity come to a conclusion, with Bulls-Celts Game 8 (that's how many overtimes they've played) ending Saturday, and we very well be getting another one right here.  Christ, buckle up.

So, I guess the best thing to do is to take this in order.  The Hawks started pretty well, I thought, and maybe just shaded the play, and even caught the first power play, which unfortunately didn't do much with.  What a difference that might have made.  However, things began to go pear shaped right about the `12 minute mark, when Toews started the parade to the box with a soft hooking penalty.  But all hooking penalties are soft these days, so no complaints there.

If Layne Stayley were still with us, he definitely would have told us the Hawks were buried in his eye, and claimed they were denying their maker.  The Hawks took 5 straight penalties, and this is going to have to stop now.  Some were flukes, not much you can do about Ladd's or Kane's high-sticking double minors, and Keith was just unlucky when Bernier (?) pretty much stepped on his stick.  But if the Hawks have designs on winning this series, they'll have to be more disciplined.  I don't have to list all the games during the season here where the Hawks had a penalty-filled 1st and couldn't get going the rest of the game.  It also allows the Sedins to get going, and even Helmuth Sundin can find some joy with a man-advantage.  Eventually, the pressure told when Demitra was rewarded with a pretty crap finish.  Khabby could've had it, but it was a pretty glorious chance that even Waldorf couldn't fuck up.  

More of the same in the 2nd, though no more power play goals.  Toews made a turnover in his own zone (I hope you're not counting on that happening a lot, Canuck fans) and the Sedins made him pay.  This was followed later when Campbell went chasing Wellwood behind the net, even though Hammer was already out of position and couldn't get to the front, for Kesler to tap one home.  I noticed people are hammering on 51 Phantom, and this was definitely a mistake.  But his Corsi, and the eye test, actually would say he was skating a strong game.  He's high-risk, high-reward, so there it is. 

It was at this point that I became terrified that the three friends who are owed playoff tickets with me, one of them is going to be hurt, because I was starting to think that we might not even get that far.  Whatever, I'm a reactionary.  I shouldn't have been.  Kaner got the ball rolling, and from then on the Hawks were EVERYWHERE.  A power play here, goal there, and it was just a shot away.  And then Fabulous Weapon provided that shot.  Madness.

But, we've seen this movie before.  I'm not going to jump on Barker for joining the rush, because the Hawks were rolling and there was no reason to sit back now.  I know some have been on Walker, but he did all he could after Versteeg's turnover.  It was a 3-on-1, and even after the great save, what's to be done?  VERSTEEG! simply can't make that risky a pass when everyone's committed.  Kane was covered, and it was at his feet.  That's just got to go to the net where everyone's crashing.  That was essentially the game.

So, what do we make of it?  Plenty of bad:

-Penalties, too many

-Khabby was spitting up some bad rebounds

-The Hawks struggled to get anything going in the first two, though that might have something to do with constantly being on the kill.

-They were abysmal at faceoffs

-Toews pretty much wasn't anywhere to be found

-And there's probably more

The Good:

-Heart o'plenty

-The power play clicked, which it'll have to do all series long

-The Hawks know Luongo isn't unbeatable.

-At even-strength, the Hawks can be the better team.  Now stay on it.

Unfortunately, the Hawks can't play fire-drill hockey from the outset.  It takes too much to come from three down to expect to keep it up, so guess what?  DON'T GO THREE DOWN.  They now face another situation they've never seen, i.e. being down in a series.  But it's hardly fatal, and even a Game 2 loss wouldn't signal The Reaper, but let's not try it that way.  The only thing I know for sure now is that Vancouver knows it's in a series.  Can't wait for Saturday.

Is that even close to a wrap?

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Was that Demitra's 900th career goal against the Blackhawks?

He has to be the all-time Blackhawk killer. What a piece of trash.

Sam, I hear ya on staying aggressive but you have to pick your spots and Barker chose poorly. He’s hardly the only one to blame on that play, though, just the most obvious.

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by El Duque's Raft on May 1, 2009 12:31 AM CDT reply actions  

The game strangely reminded me of

Game 4 against the Flames, after which the Hawks must have realized in a John Madden-esq way, that generally the team with more goals wins, and that they should try and score more than the other team. Hopefully they do just that and take the next two games and/or the series like they did in response after game 4 in Calgary. They were down by 3, then tie it up only to give up the winning goal, and have an empty netter finish the game. Follow that up by outscoring the opponent 9-2 in two games afterwards, hopefully we can start a pattern.

by pepe126 on May 1, 2009 3:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Well....i was close

My call was 5-2 nucks

I have to admit,i was impressed with hawks comeback in the 3rd….but like i said yesterday,lack of playoff experience was their downfall.
I cant remember the last time i saw a 3 on 1 late in a tied playoff game….and campbells pass into the corner was the icing on the cake

More of the same to come on saturday me thinks

by dave1205 on May 1, 2009 3:45 AM CDT reply actions  

And btw....

im gonna be dreaming about “Sportsgal” watching the game in her underware soon…..hehehe

by dave1205 on May 1, 2009 4:57 AM CDT reply actions  

ok,ive had one to many beers but...

thats no excuse for me saying……you HAD YOUR CHANCE……..luongo was human…..and you blew it

my prediction for game 2?

nucks 3 and hawks 0

and while i agree a 2-0 series lead going into chicago is not a sweep…….if game 3 goes to nucks i’m gonna have a broom ready

Hey Sportsgal,you are AWESOME…..i love a gal that swears with the boys……..join us when the hawks regroup for next year ok?

by dave1205 on May 1, 2009 6:12 AM CDT reply actions  

you’re really starting to annoy me kid

by Killion on May 1, 2009 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think he deserves the Big

BAN if he comes back after game 2. Kid’s no where to be seen during the actual game and then POOF arrives shortly after the recap is up. I don’t care if it was another Nuck fan from their baord but we’ve pretty much proven he’s just a troll

by Roos-34 on May 1, 2009 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

dave1205 we missed ya last night buddy?

where were you? I see you’re more than happy to show up and post today though. Good seeing ya…

Note the SARCASM

by Roos-34 on May 1, 2009 7:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Ignoring the keyboard muscles...

Toews didn’t have much ice time last night, and was brutal on faceoffs. Whatever is going on better fix itself quick – maybe he still has a little brown-bottle flu from turning 21?

The fact that all 3 Hawks goals were on rebounds is significant – they a) can set up around the net on this team, and b) plenty of opportunities on an out-of-position Luongo.

Overall, the Hawks didn’t bring their “A” game, and still damn near pulled it out. I think they’re coming home 1-1.

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by Forklift14 on May 1, 2009 8:16 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't have a problem with Barker pinching there

They were playing aggressively and that’s what got them back into the game. As they say, you play for the win on the road and play for the tie at home. The danger with that style of play, of course, is a good chance at odd man rushes coming back the other way. The bigger question to me is what is Walker doing out there with a minute to go in a tie game? I have no idea why he’s out there at such critical times. I realize that no one has much of a chance against a 3 on 1, but Walker even screwed that up and didn’t take away the pass. Khabby made an incredible first save that he shouldn’t even have had a chance at because he should have been playing the shooter counting on Walker to take away the pass. If the backcheck had been a little quicker or if Walker didn’t whiff on the clearing attempt, that’s a huge sequence. I know, if, if, if.
Good news is the team showed heart again coming back from 3 down and now they know that Luongo isn’t unbeatable. Chalk this one up to one that got away that they probably didn’t deserve to win anyway.

by stickhandler on May 1, 2009 8:17 AM CDT reply actions  

Bottom line is

VERSTEEG needs to get that puck in deep in the zone, that can’t be a fancy back pass to the middle of the zone there. That’s just asking for trouble.

As far as the 3 on 1. Walker did what he could and tried to take away the pass but when you have a flying V comin at you its pretty easy to pass around the defenseman

by Roos-34 on May 1, 2009 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Walker

Never takes the pass. And given that he is the 6th defensemen he is out there in situations like that at critical times all too often

by runningquicklynowhere on May 1, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Walker

He was in the same situation not too long ago. That pass was lifted perfectly both times over his stick, there really isn’t much else he can do besides get luckier. And don’t forget, even if he had gotten his body in the pasing lane there was still a trailing man they could have dropped to.

by ChargingMajor on May 1, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know

I realize that even if it’s Seabs or Dunc back there, there’s still a real good chance of a goal. I guess in a perfect world I’d like to see Walker give up the body and force either a shot or a pass to the trailer. At least both of those would be easier angles for Khabby to cover. I still have no idea how he got over to cover the cross-ice one-timer though other than by reading that Walker was out of position and more on the puck carrier and he had to take a chance and play the pass.
It’s not totally Walker’s fault no matter how much I’d like to blame him. That play’s going to end badly more often than not no matter what. I just hated seeing it at such a crucial time.

by stickhandler on May 1, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm with Roos

If any guys are to blame it is VERSTEEG and perhaps Barker for jumping into the rush. Can’t blame Walker for the 3-1, it’s impossible to take away 2 passing lanes without a mistake by the puck carrier. Great first save by Khabby.

by Geoffhawk on May 1, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

It looked to me like Versteeg and Barker were slow to react to the fact that Vancouver had turned the puck over.

Also, the fact that Versteeg and Kane stayed out for 1:13 on that shift and were both deep in the Vancouver zone when it was turned over didn’t help either. That late in the game, you’ve got to simplify things and make sure the puck gets deep. You sure as hell can’t have three guys deep in the zone and another guy behind the play when it gets turned over like that.

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by Brandon Bibb on May 1, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

The kicker

Barker has first chance at that rebound as he is falling into Khabby. Barker has a better chance of getting his stick on that than Walker had breaking up the 3 on 1. Thats the way the puck bounces. Especially when you send 4 guys at the net in what is basically overtime. ugh. Versteeg has a great look to throw that in front of the net when you freeze the replay.

by ChargingMajor on May 1, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

NOW FREEZE IT RIGHT THERE

Sorry couldn’t help myself, haha

by Roos-34 on May 1, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha

Yes. I channeled my inner eddie o there

by ChargingMajor on May 1, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Walker was out there

because Keith and Seabrook can’t play the entire game. They both got probably too much time in the first because of all the penalties. I’m taking some solace in the fact that we can’t possibly play that undisciplined too often, and that we were still able to make a game of it. Hopefully the Hawks keep their sticks down a little more and swing the Power Plays back in their favor.

by hawksfan21 on May 1, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope people have learned not to say "game over" if the Hawks are down 3

Because I think we’ve seen ample evidence that the game most certainly isn’t over at that point.

White Sox: Trying to roll a hard six.

by vince_ on May 1, 2009 8:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Never over till fat lady sings

BUT…we have a cool fat dude who sings…….then its over

by dave1205 on May 1, 2009 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

ok,still no sportsgal

sighs……im going to sleep and im thinking its gonna be a wild ride……

prob gonna watch game 2 at home……..fair warning

by dave1205 on May 1, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Will you just F-off. You comments are asinine.

by The Admiral on May 1, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nucks played well, Hawks played well

Now the Van Clan knows they have to take the Hawks seriously.

The Sedins are great players.

Coach Q needs to remind the boys that drama is great, but winning is better.

Can’t blame Luongo for the three goals in the third…it was the extra weight from all those ‘new fans’ jumping on the Nuckwagon.

Should be even better on Saturday!

Let’s go, Blackhawks.

by DaveTheRave on May 1, 2009 8:33 AM CDT reply actions  

DAVE needs to go!

he’s posting this crap on Nucks now as if he’s their boy

im the new guy
and sorry for giving Nucks Misconduct a somewhat black eye with the hawks……but ALL teams need a goon right?

im the GOON…..this is gonna be an AWESOME series and im gonna shove it down their throats…..esp sportsgal hehehe

ummmmm…..ok,that was 2 mins for taunting lol

by dave1205 on May 1, 2009 4:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

by Roos-34 on May 1, 2009 8:39 AM CDT reply actions  

That your mother's a whore.

Got more soul than a sock with a hole.

by chrome on May 1, 2009 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

this

and im gonna shove it down their throats…..esp sportsgal hehehe

Taking it a bit too far maybe?

by Roos-34 on May 1, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

if i did

im sorry…….but she looks hot…….no excuse for my comment

by dave1205 on May 1, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

game 2 will be NASTY

PROTECT your women hawks fans even though i think they can handle themselfs

game 2 is gonna be scary….3-0

but still a series…..the key will be game 3 in chi……..nope,i’m looking for one of them old fashioned brooms

by dave1205 on May 1, 2009 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Game 2

Saturday will turn nasty.

And if the Hawks buck up and get back to the way they were playing in Games 5 and 6 against Calgary, both teams will find themselves in perhaps an epic round-two battle to earn the right to play in the conference finals.

I won’t be surprised if we see a couple overtime games- obviously we came close to forcing an extra period last night. The Hawks showed me last night in the third period that when they’re on their ‘A’ game, they can be right up there with the Canucks and furthermore, they once again proved that they never stop fighting until the final horn sounds.

Like I said before the third period last night… we better do some shit. Tomorrow night, that is ;)

Feel free to email me at any time. =] Just let me know you're from SecondCityHockey!

by chisoxfan1473 on May 1, 2009 9:06 AM CDT reply actions  

yup

just some lack of playoff yadda yadda yadda

by dave1205 on May 1, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

speaking of grammar

great, proper execution of the there/their/they’re usage and all 3 in the same sentence! rare

by Geoffhawk on May 1, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

i still send invite

to sportsgal to join us in next round

be cool to swear as we watch the bruins wilt under the canucks sedin corner cycle

kisses to sportsgal

by dave1205 on May 1, 2009 9:06 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't even want to respond to this discussion, but I feel the need to.

What have you contributed to either one of these blogs? Sexism; boring, cliche taunts; unfounded predictions? I guess uneducated, backwoods dolts never learn what sexual harassment is. And yes, it’s the fucking internet; and yes, I realize you’re trying to be funny — but nobody finds you funny, and you’re contributing nothing to this otherwise diplomatic discussion.

You’re doing nothing productive for the Canucks and their fans. In fact, to people who don’t know any better, you’re not doing a very good job representing your team and its fanbase.

To be perfectly honest, I’m not quite sure why you’re still here. My best guess is that you really like the attention. Are you really that lonely?

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on May 1, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

and of course

we need to get past the wings…….im no hockey noob lol

by dave1205 on May 1, 2009 9:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Only children say 'noob'

and only an idiot is overtly rude to women. I would tell you to think of your mother reading what you write when you make the comments you’ve made to sportsgal, but I’m sure she had the sense to abandon you at an early age.

by russellguldin on May 1, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

MJTHOR

i stopped laughing………you look like the type of person who is killing us in the REAL world

this is a GAME…..why the fuck do you post a pic like that???
lossen up….have some fun………save the “look” for when you hit your 60s
im just saying

by dave1205 on May 1, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

You Fucking Dolt

his picture is of Ed Olzyck, which if you were watching the game last night was the commentator for VS and is the Hawks home Play by play guy as well. Hence his Sig of “Now STOP IT RIGHT THERE”

Get a clue

by Roos-34 on May 1, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

i KNOW DAMIT

thats whats so sad……..be real……..i am

by dave1205 on May 1, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Being rude for the sake of being rude and not meaningfully participating in a discussion is not “fun,” it is ignorant. Stop being ignorant. If these posts are a reflection of who you are, then go away.

And harassment is harrasment, wherever it takes place.

by russellguldin on May 1, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Nucks in the second scared me

That is what I don’t want the Blackhawks to face this series. What I would like to see is more of the 3rd period Hawks, but for sixty minutes.

by russellguldin on May 1, 2009 9:30 AM CDT reply actions  

IF the hawks can open up

the play like they did in the 3rd then they can dictate the flow of the game. They really need to stay disciplined as that cause them to scramble in the first and then again in the second.

by Roos-34 on May 1, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

yup

and when given and early power play gift they need to capitalize like they did those last two games against Calgary.

by runningquicklynowhere on May 1, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Speed is the key to Hawks success

and I saw in the first two how effective the VAN D can be with funneling us to the boards. I am not a big fan of the dump and chase, but we are faster on the attack and the DnC might be advantageous.

The PP did look good last night. And I love how the fourth line just goads Mitchell into dumb penalties.

by russellguldin on May 1, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

????

how was i being rude?

just my opinion…..if you disagree,im rude?

by dave1205 on May 1, 2009 9:33 AM CDT reply actions  

nope

i be here saturday

and quietly goes into the motions for a “mj” makeover……….CRAP……sorry dude,they say you cant be done

by dave1205 on May 1, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

and yet

you ask how you are being rude. fucking priceless

by runningquicklynowhere on May 1, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

My head is going to fucking explode.

The level of incoherence increases with every one of your posts.

At this point, I’m going to assume you are/have:
a) 10 years old
b) the result of an electroshock therapy experiment gone horribly wrong
c) some sort of cognitive disability

I’m guessing it’s not c, but if by some fucking incredible chance it is, I will leave you alone. Can you offer an explanation for your complete and total idiocy, or are we just supposed to attempt to tolerate it in some way? If you can offer any suggestions or explanations, that would be great.

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on May 1, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

my theory is d) we keep feeding the troll so it sticks around amusing itself

by runningquicklynowhere on May 1, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's so hard NOT to feed the troll.

But we really shouldn’t…

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on May 1, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ok....i been warned

not sure why,but im gonna continue to test you guys in good humour of course

and while i wasnt asked to do so……i do send an “im sorry” to sportsgal……but if the guys here would man up…..you look AWESOME hun!!!!!!

by dave1205 on May 1, 2009 9:50 AM CDT reply actions  

so...

you apologize, then follow that up with the same mysoginistic crap at the end of the post that prompted any possible need for an apology in the first place…

by runningquicklynowhere on May 1, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Worst. Apology. EVER.

“I’m sorry for objectifying and sexual harassing you, but damn girl, you got a fine ass!”

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on May 1, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Anyone planning a Game 2 boozer?

This is far more important than feeding some troll…any plans for a bar run for Saturday? Not sure if I’m going to be free or not, but I want to know what my options are.

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by Forklift14 on May 1, 2009 9:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Good Grief

If all the games are going to go like that one, the boozing will take care of itself. No planning required!

My blood pressure and poor liver cannot take much more of this.

by Temujin on May 1, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

After last night

and game 3 of Calgary, I am not watching a game in a bar again. I am bad luck in a bar.

by russellguldin on May 1, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’m thinking that yes – there will be a bar to watch the game at. We’ll be competing with the Bulls crowd but we can all get along, right?

Details soon

by Killion on May 1, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I may have said this already

but watching the game at West End is well worth the trek to the west loop.

Gene Honda will be there, they play the Rage/Hawks scoreboard montage before the game, along with a video of Big Jim singing the anthem before the game. And every TV is on the Hawks.

So I’ll be there again on Saturday, hopefully keeping my undefeated streak alive in that bar.

Got more soul than a sock with a hole.

by chrome on May 1, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

DAMN

ok its quite simple……..“sportsgal” posted a pic……i saw the pic……..i say she looks hot…….where did i go wrong?

by dave1205 on May 1, 2009 9:57 AM CDT reply actions  

“im gonna be dreaming about "Sportsgal" watching the game in her underware soon…..hehehe”
“sighs……im going to sleep and im thinking its gonna be a wild ride…”
“and im gonna shove it down their throats…..esp sportsgal hehehe”

Clearly you were raised by Wendigo, the cheap-ass Canadian Sasquatch knockoff. No one raised by a woman with any self-respect would speak, write or suggest such behavior.

by russellguldin on May 1, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

im still here

just hiding in corner till saturday

by dave1205 on May 1, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

10 years old, 12 years old, first time ever getting drunk?

Enjoy embarrasing Canada again, for come the end of these playoffs they will have no cup

Lets Go Hawks!

by CubsBall2202 on May 1, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Playoff beards

I need a ruling. My brother and I are growing playoff beards…and they are as ugly as Wellwood’s face after the game. My brother decided to shave his before the game yesterday. His claim is that since it’s a new series it’s okay. I feel that he’s personally responsible for the loss last night but he disagrees.

by Who'syourKhabby on May 1, 2009 10:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Holy shit,

what a terrible image that is.

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on May 1, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

wife still awake?

cmon man……i am not disrespecting anyone,well…..the actual hawks,yes i am lol
no disrespect when i see sportsgal in her underware…….oh wait,that was a dream…….you know what i mean…….CMON for fuck sakes……..defend yours but DAMN

by dave1205 on May 1, 2009 10:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Maybe he sees himself as a modern James Joyce.

by russellguldin on May 1, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

of course not

Canadians only listen to NIckelback and other various no talent hair band hacks. Or Rush.

by Crease Monkey on May 1, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok....time to sleep

sportsgal starts to toss in her bed……..you CANT prove anything!!!!!!!

see ya all on saturday…..and hey sportsgal……like i said,you are cool and i hope you know you make this site BETTER…..i should BE so lucky but just a dream

HUH…..you want coffee??…….

by dave1205 on May 1, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Your apologies mean nothing

as you continue to disrespect people

by Roos-34 on May 1, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Chicagokill continues to be my online hero.

by russellguldin on May 1, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

and there was much rejoicing.

by stickhandler on May 1, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

First banhammer appearance on SCH?

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on May 1, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

The right call

You know my feelings about banning, but this wasn’t a case of someone simply disagreeing, it was much more than that.

Not that you need my approval or anything, but it violated the most basic rule of any site…don’t be an asshole.

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by Forklift14 on May 1, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah.. i really didn’t want to.. and sent him a warning.. but that kid wasn’t going to learn.

yeah.. i really didn’t want to.. and sent him a warning.. but that kid wasn’t going to learn.Glad I have your approval anyway – hope to see you at a bar somewhere Saturday

by Killion on May 1, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

If not this week, then absolutely for Game 5. I will dominate that shit, and turn the women to jelly with my rakish charm, rapier-like wit, and Astaire-like dancing.

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by Forklift14 on May 1, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

'Disrespect' is a noun, not a verb.

It cannot be done to anybody.

No one has a problem with a dissenting opinion, and no one has a problem with a little trash talking. The problem arises when you make someone feel uncomfortable about posting here, or reading posts here. We all have impulses and opinions and the ability to express them. What you need to work on is controlling your expression.

You’ve been picked on quite a bit here; how does it feel? It is all a result of what you consciously decide to write. When you make disparaging remarks about someone because of something they cannot control and had no choice in, something that is simply an accident of birth, just imagine how that makes her/him feel.

Sexism is just as bad as racism; in some ways, it’s worse.

by russellguldin on May 1, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

No one on the corner has gramma like us.

Got more soul than a sock with a hole.

by chrome on May 1, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Shit, you're right

and I’ve been telling my kids otherwise. Either way, they’re not using it because they define it incorrectly.

by russellguldin on May 1, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Toews injured?

Does anyone know why Toews TOI is down about 5 minutes in the last 3 games? Games 5 and 6 versus Calgary and last night’s game against the Canucks. He’s gone from about 17 min down to 13 in the last 3 games and missed practice two days ago. There was an article saying he may be hurt, but I can’t find it to post the link.

by Who'syourKhabby on May 1, 2009 11:34 AM CDT reply actions  

Wow.

First, thanks to all my fellow SCH posters for defending my honor! Second, WTF is wrong with that guy? Good christ.

Whosyourkhabby – I believe Toews missed practice because he was given time off to celebrate his 21st birthday. I don’t think he’s hurt.

by Sportsgal on May 1, 2009 11:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Considering he’s a Winnipegger, he most likely needed a full-on rest after his 21st.

by russellguldin on May 1, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

He may be banged up from that Calgary series

He took a big hit along the boards in Game 3 and didnt seem to be quite the same after that, I hope im wrong, but then again theres no reason for him not be out on the ice last night with a minute and a half left in the game

Lets Go Hawks!

by CubsBall2202 on May 1, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh

I’m sorry Sportgal, and the rest of SCH, for the comments in here. Not sure where that guy came from (and looking at his account he joined your site before ours and has already been warned over there too). All good natured joking aside, I assure you we’re a better crew then that.

My apologies again.

'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.

by Yankee Canuck on May 1, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

No worries

at least from my perspective… We noticed he joined here then claimed allegiance to Nucksmisconduct. That’s what i posted on your board that we knew your crew(especially after last night) and everything was fine between SCH and NM.

Dirty little troll he was

by Roos-34 on May 1, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

No apology necessary

This isn’t the first time some random creepy dude has made comments at my expense. If I had been around I’m sure I could have gotten him to shut up. I know he’s not a representation of Nucks Misconduct.

by Sportsgal on May 1, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hell, I've made comments about you being a member of the female species.

But it was pretty well-understood that I was just fucking around, and, although I haven’t personally met you, I’d hardly consider myself a “random creepy dude” on Second City Hockey.

That said, I was really hoping you’d be around for him. I can only imagine the things you would’ve said to him.

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on May 1, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

considering how well she handles

you and I when we get out of line when we are fucking around, I’d say it would have been classic if she had been here with that moron.

by runningquicklynowhere on May 1, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least you guys write funny stuff

I can appreciate comments at my expense if they’re the least bit humorous, but pea brain couldn’t come up with something funny if it bit him on the ass.

by Sportsgal on May 1, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have always had a good time when in Vancouver, and everyone that I have met there is the opposite of that asshat. You have demonstrated the class and general good naturedness of everyone I have met in your Emerald City with your competely unnecessary but appreciated apology.

It’s really too bad our team is going to beat your team. ;)

by russellguldin on May 1, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

its all good

We know he wasn’t one of your crew.

by runningquicklynowhere on May 1, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

word

Nucks Misconduct are good people.. that guy was just a creep

by Killion on May 1, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Glad you guys recognize that.

People like that whose only goal is to be argumentative and piss people off are incredibly frustrating. I’m surprised you didn’t ban him sooner…

by Metzgerhau on May 1, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

toews played like he had swine flu last night, pick it up chicago don’t you ruin my pool! i don’t like khabby to be consistent, your offense has to outgun their offense, Vancouver more solid defensively.

by kolparty on May 1, 2009 11:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Jesus Havlat Christ!

I’m just getting to the wrap and comments now, and great Ceasar’s ghost was that kid (dave1205) a gigantic-ginormic tool. But that’s what the pre-teen kids do on the internet: harrass with sexual innuendo they just learned from their creepy uncle or some other delinquent kid at school, and offer zero intelligent contribution whatsoever to any online conversation. I’m surprised he didn’t tell all of us Hawk fans that we smell bad, or our Mother’s are sluts, etc.

Once again Kill, bravo to you for putting the hammer down.

"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon

by HawkVision on May 1, 2009 1:09 PM CDT reply actions  

In fairness, I did call his mother a whore.

That’ll be my insult till my dying day.

Got more soul than a sock with a hole.

by chrome on May 1, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

And let's be honest, the way that guy wrote,

it’s a safe bet his mother wasn’t at home reading him bedtime stories when he was younger.

Got more soul than a sock with a hole.

by chrome on May 1, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

So… focusing a little more on the wrap-up now?

I think that game probably left fans on both sides emotionally gassed. I was happy with the Canucks through two, liked that they had been staying out of the box. What can you say about the collapse in the third… amazing/shocking. Hawks showed some real guts getting back in it. Usually when this team is up 1 going into the third it is money in the bank, nevermind 3. But there you have it. So do we interpret that as “there it was, you had your chance, not happening again” or “it can be done now”?

Is there any indication in any of your media that anything is wrong with Toews? Because he was really bad last night, and throw that on top of the missed practice and reduced minutes…?

by Metzgerhau on May 1, 2009 1:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Not sure about him being injured

Wednesday was his Birthday and from what i heard when Quenneville met with the media Wednesday and said he was resting he had quite a smirk on his face.

The Hawks have come back from 2-3 goals down before so it’s a definite,It can be done. Size and Strength may not be a strenght of thier but they’re quick and can turn the tide of Momentum pretty quick in the way they can score goals

by Roos-34 on May 1, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe it's just me

but I find it hard to believe that Toews was out partying and that is why he was “resting.” I mean even back in my college days, we had team rules against drinking the night before a game, and that was just a club team, let alone an NHLer in the 2nd round of playoffs, the captain no less. I know it was his 21st b-day, but I just don’t see Toews doing that.

by Geoffhawk on May 1, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was

a replay of game 4 vs Calgary for us. They came back from down 3 in that one only to lose it late in that one as well. What we are hoping for is they come back tomorrow against Vancouver like the did in game 5 of the Calgary series.

by runningquicklynowhere on May 1, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

It can be done now

All the talk going in was that Luongo was unstoppable and he was going to post 4 straight shutouts. Putting 3 behind him throws that out the window even it was still a loss. There’s no such thing as a moral victory at this point, but if that game ends 3-0 or 4-0 last night, too many people would start buying into that pre-series hype and it would make Game 2 even tougher.

by stickhandler on May 1, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can’t imagine anyone saying that the ’Hawks would be shut out once, much less four times. We have been one of the more offensively productive teams, and while Luongo can win a game by himself, he has always been a good source of rebounds, which the ’Hawks demonstrated time and time again to be very, very good at knocking in.

by russellguldin on May 1, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t think anyone was thinking the Hawks would get shutout more than once. Luongo’s only real weakness is rebound control and that doesn’t come into play when the Hawks didn’t feel the need to get to the front of the net until the 3rd period. Buf and Ladd and Toews were all disappointing in that regard last night. Kane was there more than those guys at least executing his fly-bys to the corners of the net…then Bolland of course too. They’ve got to do that as a group at every possible chance.

by Crease Monkey on May 1, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

When Kaner is on

he is so fun to watch. I always root for the little fellas!

by russellguldin on May 1, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lui also can’t stick handle to save his life. He’s gotten better at rebounds, but I shit myself when he plays the puck behind his own net…I fully expect it to go over for the penalty or for him to whiff it completely and be out of position badly.

'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.

by Yankee Canuck on May 1, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was exaggerating

The recurring theme seemed to be that the Hawks couldn’t win this series because Luongo was too good and would shut them down. Hanging 3 on him shows that he can be beaten just like anyone else.

by stickhandler on May 1, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I choose to believe "it can be done now"

but it very well might be the case that its the former. It’s tough to take a loss after mounting such a furious comeback, especially so on the road. Then when you take into consideration how Vancouver regained the lead, it becomes all the more infuriating.

If there’s one thing you’ll learn about this team, it’s that the play of the last game, period, shift bears no indication of the next game, period, or shift. Unfortunately, they’ve failed to put together a complete 60 minutes for much of the playoffs. Since Calgary was injured and Keenan’d, the Hawks still got by them easily enough. But obviously, the same won’t work against the Nucks.

Got more soul than a sock with a hole.

by chrome on May 1, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

All I want

is for the Blackhawks and play 3 full periods of hockey, not just one. I haven’t been impressed with Q’s ability to get this team motivated and ready to play the second the puck drops. And if Luongo is going to continue to give up rebounds, then the Hawks need to have a shoot first mentality. VERSTEEG! should have shot it last night, plain and simple.

by Sportsgal on May 1, 2009 2:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Anybody have any good trash talk about the Sedins?

A bobblehead of the two of them would be the equivalent of Madame Tussaud. That’s all I got.

Twins freak me out.

by russellguldin on May 1, 2009 2:38 PM CDT reply actions  

From the game recap:
The Hawks know Luongo isn’t unbeatable.

Isn’t that the bottom line? Damn, I still hate our win. If we would have just shut you down in the 3rd and not blown that lead I’d still be jumping. But the Hawks have way too much to draw from that game, even in the loss.

by Sean Zandberg on May 1, 2009 3:00 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

that’s what I like to hear…

by Killion on May 1, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

joining in late today

For some reason I took last night’s loss a bit harder than I expected, probably (obviously) due to having done a great job to get 3 in the third, something I doubt has happened to Luongo all year. Was a good recap, though, Matt, and I’m encouraged again.

I think we gain more from having almost come back than Vancouver gains from having re-grouped; and if we stay out of the box and play 5-on-5, the Hawks have discovered earlier in the series than I anticipated that they can be the better team, that Luongo isn’t going to be the goalie he was in St. Louis throughout this series, too. That should be enough to feed their hunger. I’m not discounting Luongo, that’d be idiotic … but discovering early in this series that we can score on him was vital.

by ChicoMaki on May 1, 2009 3:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Sam wrote the recap...

Just sayin’.

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on May 1, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

oops

Thanks … never mind, Matt

by ChicoMaki on May 1, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

All three of you are there in spirit in every post, right?

by ChicoMaki on May 1, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

And mj, I’m gonna start mailing letter bombs if you keep correcting me. Never mind it’s usually warranted.

by ChicoMaki on May 1, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hawks fans

Firstly I’d like to thank you for being 100 times classier than Blues fans (for the most part) We had Blues fans saying stuff like they were going to roll Taylor Pyatt’s recently deceased fiancee (RIP Carly) out to Scottrade and things of that nature so thank you. Secondly I think this has the prospect of being the greatest 2nd round series of all. Good luck to both teams. Go Luongo!

by HockeyFan on May 1, 2009 3:26 PM CDT reply actions  

in fairness

to St Louis fans… they have a quiet anger which most don’t really understand but I sense it deals with their beloved Cardinals who have an ownership group who immediately cut payroll after getting their new stadium built and winning a World Series. Also their heroes like Al Pujols, McLiar, Ankiel, Glaus, Edmonds, Duncan, Ryan Franklin etc are all roiders so it gets to be a daunting task for them to keep defending their beloved Cardinals who are a group of cheaters and run by a drunken lying alcoholic who falls asleep behind the wheel while writing books for PETA and booking an isolated room at a famous Chicago steakhouse where he could eat a steak in private…true story.

by Crease Monkey on May 1, 2009 4:00 PM CDT reply actions  

That was a tough pill to swallow...

…coming back like that only to lose it in the final 91 seconds was really tough- excruciatingly tough! But the Hawks once again showed the desire if a champion and came back against all odds with 3 goals against a seemingly unpenetrable Luongo. The momentum, even with the loss, is with the Hawks heading into Game 2 so hopefully the Hawks can take advantage an win in convincing fashion on the road something they’ve yet to do in the playoffs so far. The Hawks are due for a all-around effort on the road and the Canucks are due for a stinker at home and in the playoffs in general. So LET’S GO HAWKS!!!

As for dave1205 or 90210 or whatever the fuck his name or number is just another example of how classless Canadian hockey fans can be (this coming from a Canadian)!
The series is far from over and ‘Nucks have won nothing yet so please stop the bullshit!
If you’re going to get into a war of words with Hawks fans I suggest you don’t ’cause your going to lose and BIG TIME!!!

by hawks61 on May 1, 2009 5:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I was pretty down last night

But I have almost nothing but good thoughts on the game looking back. The Hawks won’t allow the Nucks to have the edge in penalties for most of this series. They restored a lot of confidence that they can beat Luongo. I just keep picturing Fabulous Weapon stuff in the 3rd and hearing that crown go silent. So sweet. Lets go take one boys!

by ChargingMajor on May 1, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

The only person that was getting into a war of words with anyone was that Dave pylon, and he’s been banned so I’m not sure who you’re talking to/about. Obvisouly the series is far from over only 1 game has been played. Sounds like you’re just an angry Hawks fan looking to take your anger out on any Canucks fan you see. The ‘Nucks deserved the win last night, they just wanted it more. The Hawks did outplay them for 15 minutes in the 3rd very very heavily and there are no excuses for that. I just don’t see Luongo giving up 3 goals again. However, that’s why they play the games right! Go Nucks Go!

by HockeyFan on May 1, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bah, lacking class knows no borders. Show some pride, man! :)
Don’t get me wrong though, 90210 was out of line. He doesn’t represent Canucks fans.
Canucks fans are generally harder on the team and themselves than other people. Years of futility are to blame.
Anyway, this series is far from over.

by Sean Zandberg on May 1, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Canucks fans are generally harder on the team and themselves than other people. Years of futility are to blame.

As a Hawks fan.. we have no idea what that’s like.. at all

by Killion on May 2, 2009 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

HockeyFan what are talking about?

That message was clearly for dave whatever number! Read my post again!
Nice to see another arrogant Nucks fan that thinks Luongo is unbeatable (I just don’t see Luongo giving up 3 goals again) but yes i agree the Nucks deserved it more but it was heartbreaking to watch the Hawks comeback only to lose with 91 seconds left.
My point of view is from a Hawks fan point of view and seeing this is Second City Hockey a blog for Hawks fans I think I should be allowed, just as your allowed to post your comments about the Canucks on Nucks Misconduct. Catch my drift? Don’t be mad at Hawks fans for their comments on their OWN blog site.

by hawks61 on May 1, 2009 8:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Take your own advice

Read my post again, at no point was I mad at you for anything you said. It’s a free country you can say whatever you want, when you want it. I wouldn’t say it’s being arrogant when he has given up 3 goals what twice in his last 10 games? He comes to play in the playoffs, thats why he has a career goals against under 2 in the post-season. The Hawks are a great team, and will be for years to come, I just happen to believe this Canucks team is a bit stronger that’s all. However, as I said at the end of my last post, there’s a reason they play the games.

by HockeyFan on May 1, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

*grabs popcorn*

This should be a good one.

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on May 1, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Luongo comes to play in the postseason?

The guy has won a total of 2 playoff rounds that’s all! 2 Count’em! It easy to have a great GAA when you’ve only played a total of 16 career playoff games. Until Luongo wins a Cup nobody will consider him to be top notch money goaltender as unfair as that seems for many of his years were spent in Florida. He’s a phenominal goaltender but he can be beaten and I think the Hawks have what it takes to beat BobbyLou. That’s All!
Luongo is not now, nor ever was, nor ever will be Roy or Brodeur and for that I feel confident that the Hawks could potentially take this series!

by hawks61 on May 1, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Of course he won’t be a Roy or Brodeur! He can’t handle the puck! :) In Luongo’s defence, he has not played in front of great teams like Roy and Brodeur did. This current Canucks team is the best one he’s seen.
That being said, the Hawks do have some insane snipers who can beat Luongo, yes. That’s why the Canucks have to trap trap trap.

by Sean Zandberg on May 1, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

We will defeat the trap

Got more soul than a sock with a hole.

by chrome on May 2, 2009 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

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