Who is your Second Round MVP for the Hawks?
We tried this poll for the first round - so while we wait to see who the Hawks will take on in Round 3 lets do it again.
We tried to include who we thought the front runners would be but we probably left someone deserving out.
In my mind, the MVP is between Buff and Campbell.
These six games were arguably the best we've ever seen Campbell. He was his normal self carrying the puck, setting up chances and skating laps around the neutral zone (some of the best skating we've seen from him) but the biggest surprise was how solid he was on defense. Never known as a good defender, Campbell really stepped up his game. He was +5 for the series and made some stunning plays to break up chances for the Nucks. Who knew he had it in him?
Buff wasn't a factor on the score sheet but his 32 recorded hits made himself known to the Canucks. You can listen to the Nucks say they didn't notice him or Luongo downplay his presence in front of the net but I wouldn't put much stock in it. Using means legal and other Buff was a constant headache for the Canucks. How much of the sub-par performance of Lou was a result of Buff's harrassment? Hard to say...
Ultimately, I'm voting Soupy on this one...
Who is your Hawk MVP for the second round? - If it's "Someone else" let us know who and why in the comments.
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Kane was better in more important situations, but Buff had a nice series as well.
by SLAZZ on May 13, 2009 1:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Buff has caused the most epic amount of Canucks crying. He gets the vote for getting everyone thinking about how Big Bad Buff was so mean to Luongo, that they forgot to watch Patrick Kane.
by acidix on May 13, 2009 1:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Soupy
I agree with Campbell. He raised his game especially in his own end and started to change the minds of many Campbell bashers (myself included).
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by stickhandler on May 13, 2009 1:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Buff
he was definitely in Luongo’s head and had enough of the rest of their team’s attention to have them publicly deny thinking about him. And how many goals was he standing in front of the net on this series? Seemed like quite a lot of them
by runningquicklynowhere on May 13, 2009 1:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They should really keep track of that
(goals scored as a result of a player screening a goalie).
Got more soul than a sock with a hole.
by chrome on May 13, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It'd be neat to have that factor into +/-
Kind of like this Puck Prospectus article, which is a very good read
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by mjthor on May 13, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was a good read, particularly after seeing how important
O’Brien’s penalties were to the Hawks winning the series as they did.
Got more soul than a sock with a hole.
by chrome on May 13, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see something along the lines of this in a modified +/- system:
+ .5 for scoring the goal
+ .3 for an assist
+ .2 for an effective screen (I know this is subjective, but that’s why we have official scorekeepers and such. Other sports have similar statistics — errors in baseball come to mind.)
+ .1 for being on the ice
Obviously the numbers could be tweaked — I was just throwing out an arbitrary hierarchy, and the different weights for individual roles would require some statistical analysis and hard thought.
Even if it’s not some sort of awesome, newfangled +/- system, it’d be nice to have a stat that keeps track of effective screens — even screens that don’t result in goals. That way there would be a quantifiable metric for evaluating how often guys stand in front of the goal and how good at it they are.
We need to keep a list of all these great ideas for next season, and we should form a SCH stat commission. With the help of a community, we could keep track of stuff like this. Keeping track of all sorts of stats would be a daunting task, but I’d be able to handle keeping a tally of effective screens, someone else can keep stats such as the ones mentioned in the PP article, etc.
Who’s with me on that idea? Maybe I’ll make a Fanpost about it later.
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by mjthor on May 13, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
sounds like a great idea. I think we get a lot of great statistical analysis on here with the behind the net, CORSI, shift charts, etc. I think having more stats can only help us become more knowledgeable fans and give credit to the guys who do the little things to win.
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by Original Six on May 13, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just made a Fanpost about it.
Let me know what you guys think.
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by mjthor on May 13, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spin-o-rama
This was a hard one – Big Buff pissed so many of them off and Kaner really followed through under pressure…
But I have to agree and go with Campbell – a more quiet impact, but I’ve never seen him skate like that. He always had the Canucks on their heels – and how about that savard spin he pulled in game 6! Unbelievable. The building went wild.
by PepeSilvia on May 13, 2009 2:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WOW I'm really voting for him??
All Jokes aside I have to vote for Soupy His hustle back and diving poke check of Kesler on Game 5 was great. He skated well, took shots(checks) and twice ended up injuring the Checkor. Great series by Campbell. Buff was a factor in the series too no doubt
by Roos-34 on May 13, 2009 2:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
twice ended up injuring the Checkor
Hahaha, these were secretly two of my favorite moments in the series.
by gmh on May 13, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Secret?
I’ll tell anyone Demitra knocking himself out after trying to hit Campbell was one of my favorite moments.it
by runningquicklynowhere on May 13, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is reallllly odd … Buff or Soupy? The only thing stranger would be having to consider Walker up there, too, as part of the 1-2-3 punch.
I go Buff, though. If we had to remove one of them from all 6 games, which absence would have had the greater impact given how the series played out? Without Campbell, we’re definitely worse defensively; but without Buff, the entire tone of our play could have changed, especially in the games we played in Vancouver … he was the biggest reason we as a team never succumbed to the Luongoid intimidation factor.
by ChicoMaki on May 13, 2009 2:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's why my vote went to Buff.
Got more soul than a sock with a hole.
by chrome on May 13, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i voted for byfulkjdfadsfsdfglien
but i think marty ought to be on that list, as well. His goal at the end of game four to prevent the series going 3-1 canucks was easily the turning point of the series. I think he finished with 5 A & 2 G, and a +3, pretty solid.
by SLoop on May 13, 2009 3:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Taser
I’ll take Taser and his faceoff wins.
by Aaron G on May 13, 2009 3:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
way too long of an explanation
I voted for Napoleon Dynamite on the basis of consistency. In this series, success started at the back; while Keith and Seabrook did a tremendous job on the Sedins, Campbell quietly led breakouts, controlled the puck, and piled up assists. He had relatively easy minutes, but he made them count. What killed the Canucks? Speed, mobility, the transition game. Campbell was a huge part of that.
- Kaner’s hat trick can’t be discounted, but over the course of the series, he sort of averages out.
- We first saw this battering ram version of Buff in the Flames series — the two goals in game five were huge, and he likely played a huge role in the dismantling of Luongo’s mental stability, but I still feel he has more elevated game left in him. I’m hoping to vote for him as the Conference Finals MVP.
by gmh on May 13, 2009 3:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I may have to agree
it would’ve been Buf for the first 4 games but he stopped hanging out in front of the net after Game 4 for the most part. He contributed hits and all but like Seabrook his physical presence sort of waned as the series went on. That’s when Ladd & Brouwer stepped it up in Buf’s place.
by Crease Monkey on May 13, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His Name Is
Just because the Younger Hawks have ALL stepped up their game since he hit town, even Lord Love ’Em Wiggums “best boy.” Whom I have actually praised, out loud, in public. So my hats off to Mr. P!!!
Well, at least the hats that I have left. I donated the one I was wearing to the dogs when Kane tricked me out of it. The dogs want a LOT more hat tricks!
SHOOOOOOOT IT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on May 13, 2009 6:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I concur
Also, he deserves more than a little credit for the relative quiet from Vancouver’s big scorers.
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by Forklift14 on May 14, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s the “problem” with his role though – he’s there to make things quiet so you don’t notice him until he’s screwed up on something. There’s nothing glamorous about what he does but he’s very very good at it.
Amazing trade.
by Matthew Dirt on May 14, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's our long snapper.
As a fan of the NY Football Giants, and having seen a season go down the crapper a few years ago because of a bad long snapper, I think the roles they each play are similar. You don’t hear announcers call their names unless something goes wrong.
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by Forklift14 on May 14, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dustin Byfuglien
What a series for this guy? Unbelievealble! Not only did he get into Luongo’s head but his 2 goals in Game 5 were huge in the overall outcome of this series. His 32 hits cannot be forgotten for his size and strength and his willingness to use it created a lot of turnovers by the Vancouver defence. Bieksa, Ohlund, and Mitchell by series end were giving up a lot of turnovers due in part of the Hawks physicality and Byfuglien was a major part of that. Definitely a coming-out part for Byfuglien and hopefully a defining moment as his career unfolds!
Don’t forget about JHC Marty Havlat and his series turning goal in Game 4 that ultimately changed the series back into Chicago’s favour once and for all. Once again Havlat proved to be cluch at precisely the right moment and just at the moment the Hawks needed him most!!!
by hawks61 on May 13, 2009 6:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted Buff...
…because his presence cannot be denied, but I’d have to agree with the comment above that Havlat’s goal to prevent going down 3-1 was the most significant moment of the series. He’s not J.H.C. for nothing!
by rsievert on May 13, 2009 9:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Soup
Buff’s net presence and all around physical play puts him in a close second.
We talked all series about how Keith wasn’t his usual outstanding self, and it seemed that Campbell more than made up for it. Aside from his usual work (only better) quarterbacking the PP, he was just as good at even strength carrying the puck and helping to beat that dreadfully boring trap. He stepped up his play defensively, played a little more physical, and what I’m sure none of the players are talking about is the calming veteran presence he probably had in the dressing room.
You could say many of these things individually about any player on the team with the right argument, but Campbell seems to be the only one you could say ALL of those things about.
by hawksfan21 on May 13, 2009 9:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
365 fucking votes?!?!
People are piling in here non stop. Are you 3 giving shit away to people that vote?? I didn’t get my SCH prize. Seriously, that is pretty nice work guys.. Congrats on the ballooning success- keep it up. And oh yea, how do I get you my $10 for Nucks Charities?
by ChargingMajor on May 13, 2009 10:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
People just seem to like us for whatever reason.. we don’t get it either.
We’ll probably have more viewing get togethers for the conference finals.. so if you come to one just give it then – or if you go to a game get it to Sam and he’ll get it to me. I’m writing the check tonight so I’ll include it now and we can worry about the rest later.
by Matthew Dirt on May 14, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buff for getting in Luongo's head, throwing them off their game
and for leading to Luongo’s tears after game 6, a priceless sight
Lets Go Hawks!
by CubsBall2202 on May 14, 2009 12:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Buff, Soupy, Kane YES but...
Went with Bolland as a bit of an unsung hero. Overshadowed by absolute brilliance as it were. His Game #2 shorthanded breakaway game winner (plus empty netter), his Game #3 stonewall by Luongo could have been the finisher, the Game #4 OT toss at the net for Ladd to tip & win the match, and finally I remember he had a monster hit in Game #6, amongst others (was it on Burrows who limped to the bench?). PLUS, I’m still in love with the first series season ender hit on Phaneuf… overstepping the parameters, I know, but wow. Bolland has been another major part of the overall picture, but what a TEAM!
"Call Detroit, tell dem... BULLSHIT!"
by Hungryhawk on May 14, 2009 5:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Soup's On!
I finally don’t feel the need to defend the Soup! His play was much, much better this series. Without his ability to join the rush, that soul-sappingly boring trap of VAN would have done us in. And that game six deke, where Bernier broke his ankles trying to turn around after the spin-o-rama, was a thing of beauty.
We are going to need more of his effort from this series no matter who we play next; a defenseman who joins the rush will help set up an odd-man situation with Detroit, and a fast skate up the middle will force Ducks d-men to ignore at least one forward.
This is going to get very, very good.
by russellguldin on May 14, 2009 8:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There was a quote from one of the Russian players defeated by the US squad in 1980 (I want to say that either Mikhailov or Fetisov said it, but I can’t confirm it here at work) that the reason they lost is because, of the US players, “they were team.” Anyone who has ever played a team sport knows that he did not use poor grammar; team can be a verb, and the ’Hawks are team right now.
by russellguldin on May 14, 2009 8:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Makes perfect sense to me
What other freakin’ teams out there are reasonably spreading a poll like this between 6 or 7 players this year? The magic is real. We are team. Period.
"Call Detroit, tell dem... BULLSHIT!"
by Hungryhawk on May 14, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like it. The Hawks are team. This resonates with me, I might begin repeating it ad nauseum.
by ChicoMaki on May 14, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Campbell was hugely important in that series
Campbell demonstrated precisely why Dale Tallon went out and signed him in the first place.
by BLou on May 14, 2009 9:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I vote for Huet
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by Hawk is God on May 14, 2009 3:01 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Stats don't lie
My goal? World domination.
by stickhandler on May 14, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

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