So Much For Momentum - Canucks 3, Hawks 1, Canucks lead series 2-1
by McClure on May 6, 2009 12:48 AM CDT
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PrintThe Hawks came into Tuesday night's game riding high and thinking the home crowd would propel them to a victory on home ice after storming back twice in Vancouver. But it was not to be.
Once again, the Hawks spotted the Canucks the lead after a spirited first with the Hawks controlling much of the play. But a smart pinch by Kevin Bieksa and a great pass from Ryan Kesler to Mason Raymond led the Vancouver squad to drawing first blood. It was a lead they would never relinquish.
A lazy, late-first-period penalty by Patrick Kane led to a power play that the Canucks would capitalize on early in the second by Steve Bernier banging home a puck in front, and led to Kane's benching through the majority of the second period. Khabibulin let a softy by Henrik Sedin fart through his pads shortly thereafter, and the Canucks would never look back, in spite of Campbell's power play tally, and Byfuglien's subsequent jawing at Luongo.
Though the Hawks would win many of the battles tonight, the Canucks were quick to counter, and Luongo was rarely seriously tested. As early as it was, the pass from Sharp to Kane out front that Luongo redirected proved to be the difference maker tonight. Had the Hawks converted, it would have been an entirely different story.
Now home ice shifts back to the Canucks, and Thursday becomes the first true must-win of the Hawks season. We as fans can only hope that they adjust to Vancouver's newly discovered neutral ice trap, and that this was the game Luongo was going to steal. Toews, Havlat, and Keith are going to need to be much more of a factor if this series is going to make it back to the United Center for game six. There weren't a lot of positives tonight, and here's hoping the men of four feathers put together their first 60 minute effort together on Thursday night. In all reality, what remains of the season hangs in the balance.
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i was at work so i didn't see most of the game but.....
did kane really sit most of the 2nd because of the penalty he took? was it basically to teach him a lesson? i sure hope it worked……….
Keith
Dunc had a pretty terrible game with a lot of horrible passes and turnovers. Hope that he’s sick and will get better because unless he really picks his game up I don’t know if we can win this series
First Four Picks in the 2004 NHL Entry Draft: 1.Ovechkin 2.Malkin 3.Cam Barker 4.Andrew Ladd
Hawks thought fans would help
fans thought hawks would play a great game
0 for 2 and series is basicaly over now
fans deserve it for leaving with over a minute left to play
ummm yeah
I’m missing the point of the “0 for 2” comment. Last I checked, this was game 3…and it’s 2-1 Canucks. So…nevermind
Sloppy game in general. The Hawks need to stop with the dumb 1st period penalties…they can only come back so many times
Penalties not the problem
from what i saw……hawks didnt skate like i expected……fans didnt respond like i expected…..the “wall” fell apart
once again heres my prediction…….nucks 5 and hawks 2 in game 4
nucks 2 and hawks 0 back at gm place
ITS OVER!
WOW
i NEVER thought a hawks fan would agree
well,there ya go hawks fans,one of your own agrees with me
its right up there…..no wonder your hawks are at deaths door lol
HEY…..he/she agreed
Is Davey90210 back?
Or is this his equally intelligent twin brother?
Hey Nucks in 09 if Pierre McGuire is hired by the Wild as a GM i bet NBCwould hire you to fill his spot “INSIDE THE GLASS”!!
Beat the Trap
What’s the Hawks strategy for beating the trap Thursday night? I felt the momentum turned when Big Buff got sent off for interference. Before that the Hawks were flying around, Buff was crushing people and the Hawks looked good. I feel that Luongo’s bitching between games paid off. After Buff’s penalty we weren’t as aggressive in the crease.
what the hawks need
SUPPORT in game 4………i mean DAMN,the blues were rocking and rolling till the bitter end…..where are you guys?
Not to drill into you guys but
your fans kinda suck………i mean we here in nucks land were expecting blues like rocking……ONE goal shuts you up?
Keith is key
I sat in the stands last night, hoping for some magic; it was my first playoff game since 1994, after all. I saw Soups skate very well but miss a few plays behind his net; I saw Eager completely blow a clearing attempt by Khabby that lead to a goal. I did not see Dunc. I can’t recall a single shift of his, and I was watching for him and big Biscuit. When Dunc is off his game, then Seabs can’t lay down any crushing hits, or use his body to create turnovers, in the neutral zone. No turnovers mean no quick rushes that force those big, slow VAN D-men to turn around and try to catch us in the corners.
There was a lot of wrong on the ice last night, but there were some sweet highlights:
Soupy joining the rush again! And the PP worked!
I liked seeing T-Bone with Eager and Badger; nice line shift
Ladd and Havlat skated really well together, as always.
I still believe the ’Hawks can win this series, but without Dunc at his best and brightest it is going to be very difficult.
I hate replying to my own comment, but...
for those who watched it on TV, did the Burish-Eager-Brouwer line look good? I liked two of their shifts in the second, but didn’t see much going on from them before or after that. It may have been my perspective.
by russellguldin on May 6, 2009 7:38 AM CDT up reply actions
it hurts
but admit it……no way hawks win 3 of next four
i personally welcome you to the nucks site russell…..if you refuse,it will cost you in the future!!!!!!
I believe I am already a member. Oh no, I confused it with a site dedicated to the writing of special ed kids. My mistake.
by russellguldin on May 6, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
more bad news
salo will be back for game 4
not like we need him after last nights game,but gonna be SWEET when i can sit behind luongo and watch as we pluck the last feather in game 5
Hey, dave, you do realize that chicagokill and Sam can ban this account too, right?
As soon as they see that the IP address is the same, you’re gone.
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
OH CRAP
did my brother get banned here?……..damn,i will now say a HUGE “im sorry” for him…….i kick him in the nuts every time we play soccer
Yeah, um, this "my brother" trick has never worked.
Trust me, I tried it when I was 12 years old too.
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
This sucks
i never clued in to “davey”…..im brian and yea,that dude WOULD get himself banned
but did i say anything that requiers banning?
i think NOT
Alright dude. You got your point across.
Vancouver won yesterday.
Now fuck off.
Got more soul than a sock with a hole.
by chrome on May 6, 2009 7:58 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Well, enjoy it while you can.
As soon as Matt and/or Sam awaken from their respective drunken hazes, you’re making a one-way trip back to bantown.
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
Don’t drag me into this. You’re on your own. I got nothing but respect for Chicago (and I enjoyed going to game seven of celtics-bulls… did you guys like that?)
by Beantown Canuck on May 6, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry
computer lag
hey,look im just trying to interact with you guys………smack talk is part of hockey,esp in second round
But you're saying the same shit over and over.
All you really had to do was say: “The Canucks won last night, and it is my personal opinion that they will win the series.”
Look, we’re all glad you dropped the sexist crap, but if you really want interaction, say something halfway intelligent or ask a question or something. And if you want to talk trash, at least be creative or funny or something along those lines. If I want to read unintelligible garbage along the lines of “woooohoo we wun u guys suck lol” then I’ll go to the ESPN boards.
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
Oh, death threats now too.
This keeps getting better and better.
There’s nothing better than a 12-year-old melting down on the internet.
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
And Just some News
Many of us are already memebrs of Nucks Misconduct,
far earlier than you joining them last night.
No Charge for that news either
You say "WE"
Like you’ve been a long standing member and can speak for them, You joined last night rookie.
That’s what my point was.
Come back when your balls drop finally
ok
you are in the know……whats with towes?
sundin is hurt…..but playing thru it
luongo is gonna be your worst dream over the summer
Shouldn't you be getting ready for school?
Hurry up, you’re going to miss the bus!
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
Accidently mistake the Stanley Steamer van for your bus??
The window for winning a World Series may have waned.
The youth is showing
This is a very young squad and are bound to show it in a game or two. The Hawks will be fine. I still say they win in six. Vancouver is pretty much a one trick pony. Luongo has a good night they win, he has an off night they lose. The rest are a bunch of bums. Go Hawks!!!!
The problem wasn't really Luongo last night, it was the trap.
The ‘Nucks could’ve had Pat Lalime in goal last night and they would’ve won. We didn’t challenge Luongo at all.
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
Agree with this staement 100 %
Can’t tell you how many times i saw the Hawks D-man carrying the puck up and seeing 5 Nuck between the red line and their blue line. We need to play the dump and chase at that point. Eager.Brouwer, Bursish need to grind it out from there. As with the rest of the team.
Gonna have to fight thru that, Nucks will continue to do this Game 4 5 and 6 until it isn’t effective anymore
Unfortunately, we've said that anytime the Hawks play a trap team
which they struggled against all year.
The solution is pretty obvious, anytime Foley and O!check interview Haviland or Torch they say exactly what you said, but for some reason, it doesn’t happen. The unfortunate result of last night was how predictable it was.
Got more soul than a sock with a hole.
If anything
I think this is an indication of their youth. They know what to do, obviously the coaches are telling them what to do, but they decide to say fuck it, I’m a badass, I’m going to stickhandle through a clogged up zone instead of making the smart play. Usually that results in a turnover and too often a rush the other way. Rinse, repeat, and you end up with last night’s result.
Frustrating game last night. Trap hockey is sooooooooo boring.
I think you are right.
We’ll see how they come back next game. They have undeniable talent, but they can play curiously stupid sometimes. Fortunately, the talent they have can lead to bouncing back quickly.
Got more soul than a sock with a hole.
Yeah
To be honest Luongo didn’t look that good. There were a couple times when he was sprawled out on the ice and we just couldn’t get it to the net. It also seemed like we didn’t get many quality chances whatsoever.
And someone please tell some of the crowd to stop yelling shoot constantly. We need to get off quality shots to score, not just shooting whenever we get the puck.
CANT we all just get along???
like next saturday i shake hands with all of you?
and you cheer uson to the cup?
To be serious
I think the hawks have lost the “we can come back from anything” and are ripe for the picking on thursday…….thursday will show a GREAT hawks team that falls just a little short
many of the media are compareing them to the oilers of the 80s…….GOOD……just not yet
and thats the best i can say…..GO NUCKS
Yes, because when I think of the 80's Oilers I think
“good, just not yet”.
Better trolls, please.
Got more soul than a sock with a hole.
Ok,im out but
will be back later today
And of course during your last home game,i will try to ease the pain
Thanks for the powers that be letting me hang out here,if it werent for guys like me it would be somewhat boring,dont you think?
NUCKS IN 09!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously
I came here to read some intelligent posts and learn more about what went wrong with last night’s game. Unfortunately, I had to sift through all your shit since I can’t just set “ignore” on your posts.
Oh, and I’m so sorry to tell you, it’s over for the Nucks. We let them win their two so they have some amount of dignity left, but that’s it.
So will you go to your room now so the adults can have some adult conversation?
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
Nucks in 9?
I thought all the Vancouver fans were saying the ’Nucks were going to win this one in 5.
Well, I guess that was after game 2. Before that they said they were going to sweep.
how obnoxious
“Boring? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
“I thought it was pretty exciting from where I stood,” Canucks winger Alexandre Burrows said."
die in a fire.
just a game....
um, i know you’re probably just going to say it’s a figure of speech, but i think “die in a fire” is a bit much, no? i’d love it if byfuglien would finally man up and fight mitchell so he can get beat down, but i’m not rooting for him to die a horrible death. it’s hockey, chill out.
yes but
It’s not a figure of speech for me. Really. I actually hope Burrows dies in a fire. I hope the fire begins in his asshole and burns upward through his alimentary canal to his mouth, and that the only thing left of him is liver, which I’ll feed to flu pigs.
by ChicoMaki on May 6, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great, so what you're saying
Is that you have a better grasp of the English language than Nucks in 09, but that you’re just as immature.
Actually, what you’re probably saying is “Gee, that Burrows is a great player, I really wish he played for my team.”
Well let’s talk about that after the Canucks finish ripping your heart out of your chest and spoon feeding it up your ass, shall we?
I'm not really sure you can "feed" an ass.
Maybe you could “force” it up his ass? “Jam” it up there? “Stuff” it up there with a broken-off broomstick?
Just a few suggestions.
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
Observations
1. Vancouver played stiffling defense the entire game
2. Toews and Havlat have got to be back in sync, or Vancouver could run the table
3. Keith has his worst game of the season on Tuesday
4. The YOUTH is definitely showing right now…but that’s to be expected as part of the longer-term building process
The window for winning a World Series may have waned.
Re: #2
I thought they both were playing much better.
Some of my disappointment was that when Luongo gave up rebounds, there was no one there to capitalize on it.
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
Luongo was not seriously tested
The Canuck trap killed the Blackhawks. They had no answer for it. Also, the Hawks looked gassed out there. Especially Toews. I wonder if he is battling the flu or virus or something.
The window for winning a World Series may have waned.
OT - Wisnewski
Hoping he’s OK:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRHwM58ACFc
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
yeah saw that
and Wiz has had a great series against the Wings too.
by Crease Monkey on May 6, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Gotta crawl before
you can walk
and you have to walk before you can RUN.
Insightful huh? call me Nuck in 09
But seriously, many of us would have been fine with making the playoffs. Now that we’ve had that we want more. The Youth does show (Kane’s dumb penalties, and running around like they have no heads) Q needs to pound into their heads today to Dump and Chase, not to be cute and when on the PP Take some damn shots! Not over by any means and i still see this going the distance but they need to improve some things still.
i dont wanna
but i HAVE to
hawks let us win 2 games for dignity?…..and this from someone who wanted to read “intelligent” posts?
hawks gals are cute and im sure she is too……..but CMON
Sorry about this troll guys
I’m not even sure he’s a Canucks fan since he keeps joining this blog before Nucks Misconduct.
Good luck the rest of the series, and please ban him.
Seattle Seahawks: We've got Brian Russell and TWO kickers!
Don't worry, we already understand that he doesn't represent Nucks Misconduct or Canucks fans in general.
Unfortunately you can’t herd all the morons on the internet…
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
sniff, sniff...
what’s that smell? Ah yes, I recognize it now – burnt ego, clearly you were a Flames fan last week, ya punter. And like we endured from the pathetic ‘Pee of Red’, your smack at such an early point in the SEVEN GAME SERIES shall eloquently sink it’s hawk’s beak firmly in your hiney before we prepare to meet Anaheim in due course. Now might be a good time for that mega-earthquake to erase your pathetic ass from the globe and save you some embarrassment. Free willy! GO HAWKS!!
"Call Detroit, tell dem... BULLSHIT!"
The view from section 328
The Hawks are exhausted. That is what I took away from last night’s game. There was very little energy from them at all. This I believe led to mental mistakes. I heard that only three players made the morning skate yesterday – not a good sign.
We had NO presence in front of Luongo, an inability to win faceoffs and clear the puck out of our zone, and as I stated in another post yesterday, the trap was not what would take the crowd out of the game, it was an early lead.
And please, please, please Dale Tallon, find a way to unload Campbell… He was HORRIBLE last night. He spent more time skating around, turning the puck over, and wasting valuable power play time.
The trap gave Vancouver the stamina they lacked in previous games to play a full 60 minutes of solid, basic hockey. Vigneault is to be credited with an effective adjustment.
While disappointed with the outcome, the atmosphere at the UC was incredible. It was the first time I have heard the crowd drown out the anthem. Got lots of great pics and enjoyed playoff hockey for the first time in too long.
Game 4 will be the series. All we can hope for is a renewed sense of energy, and an answer to the trap from Coach Q.
They have still gone farther than most objective Hawks fans would have hoped for, and we should be proud of what they have achieved this season.
by Return of the Roar on May 6, 2009 9:58 AM CDT reply actions
Agreed on most accounts,
but man, can’t we save the “We should be proud of what we achieved” speeches for if/when we actually are eliminated? It sounds too much like a concession.
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
Also in 328
Yeah, I was in 328 last night, too. I’m no hockey expert, but it was one of the worst games I’ve seen in awhile. The ‘Nucks weren’t anything special—the game was the Hawks’ for the taking, if they’d actually shown up and played some hockey.
And this is an aside, but I find that the UC musical selections actually seem to take energy away from the crowd. This is not a group of people who need to be told to “make some noise” or who need 30 seconds of some loud bangy music (which, hey, I like as much as the next person, just not at the damn game) to get into it.
I wonder if this is my own biases as a Hawks fan
but it certainly seems like when the opposing team clears the puck on the power play, we always seem to waste 30 seconds in our own zone before even beginning to enter the offensive zone again and set up shop. Campbell’s certainly guilty of that. He’ll often circle back in his own end when there’s just not a need for it. Pass the damn puck.
I don’t have anything to back up that perception, but it seems to be amplified in this series. When we clear the puck, Van has it back in our end in 10-15 seconds. We typically take 30-45 seconds.
Got more soul than a sock with a hole.
Soup's On
All I heard last night was how Campbell sucked. I was there, I watched what I believe to be the same game as everybody else, and I don’t think he sucked. He drifted last night on some plays, but so did Dunc and Hammer and Biscuit and Wiggum. Last night was not the failure of one person = loss, but a lack of commitment from the entire team to their previous game plans.
Back to Soup. Let’s remember that the ‘Hawks PP was never below 18% this year; it’s lowest percentage occurred when 51 was not on the #1 unit. He led defensemen in points (5th on the team overall) and is one of our best skaters. Sure, you hate it when he gets cught behind the net, but when he starts moving forward we all hold our breath. He did not come here to bang and crash but to skate and score. There are no excuses for sloppy defensive play, but let’s remember that without him Roberto Lozenge-o would have a shutout.
I think I should change my screen name Soupsshield51. I must have a serious man-crush on that ginger bastard.
by russellguldin on May 6, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
I like to pile on the gingerkid as much as anyone, but I was there last night also and I thought Campbell was one of the better Hawks last night. And not just because he was the only one to light the lamp. He carried speed several times and broke into the zone through the trap. He also had a couple of good hits and corner plays. He seemed to me to be one of the few last night who was skating hard and trying to make things happen.
by stickhandler on May 6, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
as a Canucks fan...
I don’t get the Campbell hate. I thought he was one of your most effective players. The guy can fly…
I'm not bashing him
I still like the signing as he adds an element the Hawks sorely missed last year. But the fact remains he got a GIGANTIC raise to do pretty much what he’s done all along. I’d love to know how to pull that off in the real world.
I know the Hawks had to overpay to get him to Chicago and it is what it is. I’m just saying that I can understand the bashing to a certain extent because given how much of the cap he eats up, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to have high expectations of him.
by stickhandler on May 6, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed
he did have a pretty good game last night but overall he’s been a disappointment…and most of that is in regard to his contract. It’s unfair to him because we all expected things that aren’t part of his game. When you only see the Sabres once or twice a year you don’t get a good gauge on his all around game but obviously when you see him on a game to game basis over the course of an entire year he’s just not a Blackhawk type of player…esp for a D-man. I had no idea he was this bad defensively. Going out of your way to avoid checks while continuing to turnover the puck to avoid said checks isn’t going to fly with the typical Hawk fan. He’s nearly a one to two dimensional player…like a speed only guy in baseball like say Juan Pierre. Great skater with blazing speed and an above average passer(most of the time). Not a great or accurate shot, and he’s below average to horrible defensively on most nights. That’s not worth $6-7 million a year or whatever it is he’s getting. Outside of goalies, you can’t pay specialists that kind of money in a salary cap sport….imo anyway. Then again maybe I’m biased because most of my fave players are the two-way types.
by Crease Monkey on May 6, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I was talking about that on the way home too
The guy sitting next to me complained every time Campbell got the puck. It went from move faster, check more, and oh he finally scored.
Nucks fan here. Funny how we see things different. You say trade Campbell cause he was horrible last night. Granted he didnt have his greatest game, but hes the one Hawk d-man who scares me pretty much everytime he picks up the puck. He is fast and shifty, and last night he was flyin. I guess it depends on what side of the fence we look from. Unloading him most likely will be attempted within a year or so, i’m not positive on the cap situation in Chicago, but aren’t Seabrook and Keith due for big raises after next season?
And I used to watch Chicago a lot when I was a kid, back in the days of Manson and Jocelyn Lemieux, I remember the anthem was always rockin, and it was cool as a hockey fan to see Chicago regainin there form last night.
And finally, Lou did have a relatively easy night last night. Maybe it was tiredness, or maybe Van just executed there game perfectly. Now its Hawks fans who can scratch there heads and wonder which Hawk team shows up Thursday. Its what Van fans were doin for the last few days. Its not fun, but it worked out for us this time. Maybe you’ll get the same on Thursday.
PS. I’ve always liked the Hawks, and even though I should “hate” you. Since the team is pretty good to watch, i’m having a hard time even comin up with dislike. Thursday should be a beauty.
Ticket situation
Anybody get a handle on ticket availability outside the UC? Prices? I was thinking about making the drive in from the Iowa City area and looking for a single ticket in the 100- or 200-levels. Craigslist is crazy, but StubHub and some of the other brokers are even worse.
Any info would be appreciated?
An idea
I never really trust people selling outside the venue. Do yourself a favor and just get the standing room only tickets. The view from on high is still excellent and for $50 you can see playoff hockey. There are no outlets selling 300 level for under $100 each once you include “service charges”. In retrospect (maybe just because they lost last night) I wish I would have just bought the SROs.
Just a thought….
by Return of the Roar on May 6, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
I would advise against it...
I saw some plainclothes Chicago police nab a couple guys trying to buy tickets during the Calgary series. Also, I have heard stories of unscrupulous ticket hawks outside the gates. You’re best and safest advice is to buy tickets via stub-hub or something similar. You probably will end up spending the same amount of money too.
The window for winning a World Series may have waned.
All in all, I thought Campbell was okay
The problem was that the Blackhawks don’t know how to handle the trap, and Vancouver was playing it to exception last night. Keith really struggled last night, but so too did the Hawk forwards. Loungo wasn’t really tested the whole evening. Very similar to how Vancouver beat St. Louis is their 4 game sweep.
The window for winning a World Series may have waned.
I saw it like that too
Khabi was ON last night. That score coulda been a brutal one. The reason Soupy was turning back more often and the same for the lethargic appearance of our forwards seemed to me to be the new trap Vancouver busted out. It was four men across the neutral zone on almost every Hawks breakout attempt. Coach Q will rectify this in short order so let’s not panic. We have the speed, and personally I would have liked to witness a little more dump and chase given the circumstances. Scotty B. took home more than one Cup employing the exact same trap so I’m extremely confident that the brains will have something effective worked out for Thursday. Free Willy! GO HAWKS!!
"Call Detroit, tell dem... BULLSHIT!"
The Nucks were unafraid of a 2-man forecheck all night. That hurt to watch.
by russellguldin on May 6, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Completely off -opic
Whoever was sitting in section 306, row 9, seats 11-13 should never be allowed back in the game. Some of the inanity my boo and I had to tolerate last night:
“Why are they (’Hawks) so stupid?”
Her: “Who’s the Goalie?”
Him: “Khabibulin.”
Her: “Who?”
Him: “Khabibulin!”
Her; “Who?” (repeat exchange twice more)
Her: “He sucks. He’s stupid.” (repeat entire exchange nine times per period)
Her: “The players look different on TV.”
My Boo: “Then stay at home and fucking watch it there.” (I love her.)
Sometimes I am uplifted by my section and row mates in a game. We have smart, informed and thoughtful fans. I am thankful to this site for reminding me of that after a game where I sat in a sea of drool provided by too many mouth-breathers constantly screaming such classics as “Shoot the puck!” and “Hit somebody!”
It's like you read my mind
My seats are in 304 and last night just about killed me. I think brokers own a lot of seats in our section as there are only a few familiar faces that were pretty constant all year. Last time had to be a high though for the playoffs so far for first timers and other assorted oxygen thieves.
So to you, whoever was behind me yelling, “SHOOT IT!!!!” 8,000 times a period, you’re an idiot. Pleading and begging for a shot while Campbell skates along the blueline with the puck on his backhand and two defenders in front of him. Just knock it off and try to understand the game. Yeah, I’d like to see a few more shots and fewer pretty pass attempts, but wildly firing into the defender in front of you is generally a bad idea. Best case, if deflects off to the side where you may or may not maintain possession. Worst case, it goes right off his shinpads behind you and leads to a shorthanded breakaway. There’s a difference between shooting through a screen and shooting at a guy 2 feet in front of you.
Please try to remember that these are NHL players and they kind of know what they’re doing out there.
“GO WRITE THAT EMAIL!!!! WRITE IT!!! WRITE IT!!!”
“WE NEED THAT TPS REPORT NOW!!!!!!!!”
by stickhandler on May 6, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
IMO
I think you guys may be being a bit harsh. Fans are fans. I know I hadn’t watched hockey since probably the 80’s til this year, and the rules have changed tremendously. I grew up in a hockey family (doesn’t everyone from the north shore?), but there are still so many things I’m learning from being here, and from reading more. Even in spite of all that, I still can’t keep up with everything, as I also am trying to keep up with rules changes on another sport I love (F1), and politics, and everything else in the world.
Then again I wasn’t there so I don’t know how annoying it was.
Just asking people to perhaps teach as opposed to insult if the opportunity arises? No offense intended.
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
No offense taken
The fact that you are here and looking to learn all you can says it all and puts you so far ahead of many. People are always going to be yelling, “SHOOT!!!”, so it’s nothing new. It was just jarring for me last night that I seemed to be surrounded by a lot more novice fans. In round 1, my section seemed to have a lot more knowledgeable fans in it and that just makes it even more fun, at least for me.
Not trying to turn away new fans or anything as hockey needs all the fans it can get. I have no problem answering questions and have done so all year when I take friends with me that are new to the game. What I don’t like is the fan that thinks they know what’s going on and screams it at the top of their lungs.
by stickhandler on May 6, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough
And I agree with you that part of the thrill of actually attending a sporting event or concert is to in a sense share it with others. I’d be pissed if I went to a concert with someone next to me singing the wrong words to a song I love. ;)
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
Just a guess, but based on a number of guys I know with season tickets
but round 1 most season ticket holders went to the game and enjoyed the playoff experience. Round 2 more might be taking advantage of the high resale value of the tickets, making the first round free.
Got more soul than a sock with a hole.
My thoughts exactly
Or from a darker perspective, I wonder if a lot of ticketholders had no faith in the Hawks making Round 2 and sold to bank the profit on the markup. Can’t say that I blame them, but it would kill me not to be able to be there just for a little extra cash. Especially if I missed out on a classic 4 OT game or something like that.
by stickhandler on May 6, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
In these economic times...
That’s what I love about the 300 level prices, is that a lot of the STH are regular guys (or girls). But, if you’ve got an opportunity to sell playoff tickets and make your own tickets free, or pay for a decent portion of next years games, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
Got more soul than a sock with a hole.
When I was a new fan, I kept my opinion to myself and asked questions of my dad and our neighbors. They were excited to answer my questions and point stuff out, just like I am when someone asks a question or makes a comment. And I love nothing more to have a conversation about the game with a fellow fan. But fans who know nothing and broadcast their ignorance are distracting.
As a teacher, I would love to have a new fan to help understand the game at every game. I can do without the drunken idiot who has no appreciation for the finer points, nor any desire to learn them, broadcasting his bullshit so as to attract a mate, or something.
I hope I didn’t discourage you, or any new fans, from talking during the game. I totally buy into the excitement and wanting to scream, but my wonderful experience was based on a woman who would call the ’Hawks stupid no matter what they did. I have no patience for stupid people. Hence why I am leaving CPS!
by russellguldin on May 6, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
No
I do see what you guys are saying. I haven’t been to a game since back at the Stadium. My neighbors may be complaining about my loud yelling though. ;)
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
Good for you!
Keep yelling! As stickhandler said, we need all the passionate hockey fans we can get!
by russellguldin on May 6, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's play a fun game of "Who said that?"
I didn’t think we skated very well tonight. We’ve got to find a way to have a better first period than what we’ve had in the series so far. It’s not acceptable.
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
As a thinking Canucks fan...
Let me apologies for ‘Nucks in 09’. He’s clearly a trolling asshat. Don’t feed him, and he’ll go away.
It’s the same kid as before.. no need to apologize anymore about him. We realize what he’s all about.
I think he has a crush on
you, chicagokill. He just can’t get enough of your warning messages. They are like manna to him; the written songs of angels.
by russellguldin on May 6, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
First Goal
I’ve watched the highlights (lowlights) on NHL.com. What happened on that first goal? Khabby failed to clear the puck, Eager looked lost and then the next thing you know it’s a jail break of Canucks. Where were the forwards coming in to help?
by Who'syourKhabby on May 6, 2009 12:12 PM CDT reply actions
Kane was on the ice
trailing Raymond, not sure if there was a change or what. Not throwing him under the bus but in the reply i saw him WAYYYY behind Raymond which makes me think there may have been a line change.
Habby needs to be smarter about when and how he plays the puck, Too many times he tries to clear it himself with 2 D-men right there and all to often those clears arpund the boards go right to the opponents wingers.
It's never been a secret
That Kane is not highly involved in the defensive end. It’s just not who he is, and it’s not what he does.
That goal made me scream
Eager definitely spaced out during Khabby’s pass. I haven’t yelled “Fuck!” that loud since I nailed my foot to the floor.
by russellguldin on May 6, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
No longer a lurker :)
Warning: I am a Canucks fan.
I’ve been reading your site as well as nucks misconduct since our series started, but haven’t been posting. I just wanted to get a feel for how the opposing teams fans are feeling. But I had to post after reading what the brilliant mind of ‘nucks in 09’ had to say. Not all of us are complete, fantastic idiots.
I appreciate reading the commentary here and you have a lot of quality posters.
Also, I have to say I get annoyed with fans at the game constantly yelling out idiotic things. It happens too often at Canucks games because it’s ‘cool’ to go to the hockey game, even for people who know nothing about the sport. A couple of years ago, I sat a couple rows in front of a guy who would scream out “Hit him!” or “Shoot it!” very LOUD, ever minute or so, and just keep going back and forth between those two phrases. Unreal.
by sunshine and lollipops on May 6, 2009 12:36 PM CDT reply actions
The guy sounded like he had a point.
If they would just hit and shoot more, he wouldn’t have to yell.
I like when those guys yell “hit someone” for a few minutes, then, inevitably, there’s a hit and they’ll say “see, I told you that’s what they need to do.”
Got more soul than a sock with a hole.
I wonder
What experience with any sport, hockey or otherwise, some of these people who yell “SHOOOT” even have. My hockey experience is fairly limited from a playing standpoint, but I’ve played enough of other sports to understand the concept of passing lanes, shooting lanes, defense, etc.
I recognize that checking and fighting are unique to hockey and may make the game more exciting for some people, but I wonder how many of them realize the actual goal is to score more goals than your opponent.
I asked the asshats in my section
if they had ever played hockey; none had. So I tried to tell them about lanes (passing, shooting) and their eyes glazed over like a student during grammar lessons. “Aw, don’t teach us, ‘cuz then we won’t be ignorant! Shoot the puck!!”
I wonder if it may have some connection to Tourrette’s Syndrome…
by russellguldin on May 6, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
It reminds me of a Brian Regan skit
I think this is an accurate representation of what those kids were like in school.
by russellguldin on May 6, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I meant to reply to this with my "Brian Regan" comment
I will see the duty torturer for my failure to properly reply.
by russellguldin on May 6, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Hawks are too cute with their passing on PP opportunities
From watching the game today it seemed as if they were forcing that extra pass, which 99% of the time resulted in a Nuck clear. I really think the Hawks needed more traffic in front of the net and a few more shots on goal during the powerplay. We should have capitalized on the stupidity of the Canucks penalties and punished them, we really let one slip away last night
Yes!
What the hell happened? Maybe those loud, ignorant, and obnoxious fans were onto something there. Quit trying to be so goddamn pretty and get some pucks to the crease!! The best chances we had, and the only ones that took my breath away were when we had traffic at the net and a few bodies slamming away at Luongo’s pads. Hopefully it’s a lesson learned (again).
"Call Detroit, tell dem... BULLSHIT!"
We're fine ... still 4 more games left to play
The series is just 2-1, everyone. It was just one game. We have another home game tomorrow and we’ll respond. It’s a must-win, yep, and so was Game 5 against Calgary when we mustered our best game of the playoffs so far.
Vancouver played a great game start to finish, but we helped them with an insane number of turnovers and for some reason a lack of spirit in the second half. Our mistakes are fixable, and a crucial fact right now is that we don’t have to depend on Vancouver playing worse in order for us to win. They can play the same game; if we just play a smarter game with fewer turnovers and more bodies in front of Luongo again, we’ll be fine.
Tie up the series tomorrow, win one more at home in game 6, and anything at all can happen in a Game 7. This is a good test. Tomorrow we get the chance to see what this team is really made of … I’m excited about that, and I expect a great game.
Seriously, how can everything be fine before game 3, but then everything is a disaster without hope after one bad game?
The players know they can win if they stop turning the puck over and dictate the pace of play rather than have it dictated to them. Win one game and it’s a best of three … a lot of cliches fit, of course, but we can win 2 or 3 with one of those at home … if we can just tie it up.
Congratulations to Khabibulen
On the start of his new 11 year losing streak to the Canucks.
“Smithers, who is that Buttfuglyen fellow?
I like the cut of his jib”.
i thought so too – but it’s a different IP address. So for now we’ll just assume it’s another dumbass.
You know you're an idiot when you can't spell a name correctly in the age of google.
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
You mean Buttfuglyen is not the correct spelling?
Oh gosh, my bad.
You Black Cock fans have the sense of humour of Mullah Omar.
No, you fool. You misspelled "Khabibulin."
“Black Cock.” Real original. Enjoy your ban.
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
Maybe that was a bit premature, and I don't want to put Matt or Sam on the spot.
They’ll ultimately decide your fate. But at this point, there really only seems to be one destination for you.
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
Khabibulen....Khabibulin who gives a fuck, he's still a loser
Only a Black Cock lover would care.
Sorry to interrupt your circle jerk.
I cannot believe
how terrible your jokes are. They have absolutely nothing to do with hockey. Plus you are basing your jokes off of the idea that Blackhawks fans are gay? How old are you?
This guy kind of entertains me so far.. he may stay. For now.
who gives a fuck, he’s still a loser
Remind me which goalie has his name on the cup again?
by Killion on May 6, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Are you kidding me?
This idiot is still posting here? He must of signed up at his work address . . .
. . . lets hope he keeps posting and he gets fired from his job manning the fryer . . .
by allmyfriendsareindians. . . on May 6, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
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