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Where Do We Go Now?

So, there are two ways you can look at last night's game.  The first would be that the Hawks took the Nucks best road game, and survived it.  They can play against a trap, do the simple things, wait (and wait and wait) for their chances, and eventually bury them, while pretty much limiting the Canucks to nothing in the offensive zone.

Or, you could look at it and say the Canucks were a mere two minutes from a commanding 3-1 lead, and that they can snuff the Hawks out whenever they want, and it was only due to a couple bounces and saves here and there that kept the Canucks from winning it.

Where it really gets interesting is how Vancouver decided to play Game 5.  Can they trap like that at home?  Will the pressure of the Cancuk faithful be too much?  But it's already been proven they can't run and gun with us, so don't they have to?  Will be awfully interesting to watch, no?

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Another way you could have looked at this, was, the Hawks could have had a multiple goal lead if it wasn’t for Lou. A few of those stops were pretty sexy.

by Let'sGoHawks on May 8, 2009 12:40 PM CDT reply actions  

if

at the beginning of the series had you said that the Hawks would almost entirely (save for one PP) shutdown the Sedins you would probably think the Hawks would have at least a 3-1 lead. Granted after the way the Hawks offense sputtered at home in this series I’m happy to be tied 2-2 but when the opposition’s top scorers are getting shutdown you’d like to be better than even but that’s where having the best goalie in the world, and an entire roster committed to playing solid team defense comes into play. Kane and some other Hawks should take note of that.

by Crease Monkey on May 8, 2009 12:47 PM CDT reply actions  

I think you phrased it about as accurately as anyone can. I don’t know what Vancouver will do differently, short of some new lines, in game five. They don’t mind trapping at home, but the lesson learned in game two was we can’t trade chances with the Hawks back and forth. Game four showed we can’t sit back and milk a slim lead and expect to win either.

Will say this though: it’s a hell of a series. I didn’t see much of your first round but this is by far more interesting then ours (and that’s not taking anything away from the Blues. Just saying ’Nucks and Hawks are very well matched up)

'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.

by Yankee Canuck on May 8, 2009 12:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed. But if it works, it works. Tough to argue against when you think back to game three (at least from a Canucks perspective)

'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.

by Yankee Canuck on May 8, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't blame the Nucks for using it.

But please tell them to stop.

Got more soul than a sock with a hole.

by chrome on May 8, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey if they’d listen to me, they wouldn’t have the coach who I wanted gone back in January. Or sundin for that matter. More people should listen to me honestly.

'Nucks Misconduct - Housing Swedish Millionaires Since 2000.

by Yankee Canuck on May 8, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a Hawks fan...

I would hope they would have listened to you earlier on getting Mats Sundin. I mean he’s been SOOOOOO effective and worthwhile since he got his prorated $10 million

by Roos-34 on May 8, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bounces and saves go both ways

Vancouver’s best chance is to jet to an early lead by being aggressive and then rely on the trap to hold.

The challenge for Vancouver in doing this is that it is when they get aggressive that our best chances happen. The challenge for the Hawks is to limit youthful mistakes in passing and staying out of the box when they do get their chances.

Mistakes are increasingly magnified as teams figure each other out. The Hawks have to be 100% on the PK and have to score on the PP.

by Return of the Roar on May 8, 2009 1:39 PM CDT reply actions  

It's nice the Trib is giving more print to the Hawks

but its always cringe-worthy when Rick Morrisey tries to write about the Hawks. Today’s article is no exception. It will also provide everyone’s local “shoooot!” guy with some more ammo…

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/chi-08-morrissey-blackhawks-may08,0,7612837.column

Got more soul than a sock with a hole.

by chrome on May 8, 2009 2:29 PM CDT reply actions  

You're hilarious

in your never ending hate for the “shoooooter” people. I was in Section 329 last night and could not stop laughing everyt time this guy 7 rows behind me was yelling " Hit him already" or the “Shoot it already” I literally laughed out loud a bit.

by Roos-34 on May 8, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had a mouth breather in my section

(304) who alternated between yelling “SHOOOOOOT!” and “PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE!”

incredible

by Geoffhawk on May 8, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was sitting to the most annoying person ever.

First, he spilled half his beer on me and said it was my fault (even though I wasn’t standing anywhere near him). Second, he was wearing so much cologne my friend could smell him from three seats away. Third, he asked me if my dad or ex-husband bought my season tickets for me. And fourth, he told me multiple times that Walker is a playmaker. WTF?

that's what she said

by Sportsgal on May 8, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think we might have a winner.

Got more soul than a sock with a hole.

by chrome on May 8, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

The "dad" or "ex-husband" ticket conversation really pissed me off.

I swear to god I almost punched him when he said that. Oh, and I forgot to mention his hair. He had long, gray, curly hippie hair.

that's what she said

by Sportsgal on May 8, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess that's pretty similar to my last comment.

I’m still hungover. My brain’s only giving me 10 words to play with today.

Got more soul than a sock with a hole.

by chrome on May 8, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

No explanation needed

We’re all hungover today. Or at least we all should be. I know I am.

that's what she said

by Sportsgal on May 8, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Walker is a playmaker, a bad-playmaker

by The Admiral on May 8, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly what I said to him!

He kept getting Walker and Hjalmarsson mixed up too, so every time Hjalmarsson cleared the puck, this dipshit would say “Nice job Walker!”

that's what she said

by Sportsgal on May 8, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well you know they do look a like. Both have black helmets, red sweaters, and are on skates.

by The Admiral on May 8, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m in 304 also. The SHOOT guy sounded like someone maybe in SRO, but they were definitely the same person from Tuesday. He took it to a new level last night, demanding shots even when the Hawks didn’t have control of the puck. Seriously dude, go to a monster truck rally or something.

My goal? World domination.

by stickhandler on May 8, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha, yeah the guy was definitely SRO. I was only a few rows from the back so he was right on top of me. I can laugh and make fun of the SHOOT comments, but the PUNCH HIM IN THE FACE was really starting to get to me

by Geoffhawk on May 8, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do they even watch the game?

Some of the articles i read make me think they just review stats and other articles and come up with their own bullshit.

If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning

by Trixietrx on May 8, 2009 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice change to the title bar guys

I think that’s new. If not, I just noticed it.

My goal? World domination.

by stickhandler on May 8, 2009 3:41 PM CDT reply actions  

nucksmisconduct

boy are there some idiots on that side.

“A bit late to the party here. My thoughts are as follows.
1.) We played pretty much the perfect roadgame. The Havlat goal was a bad break and they happen.
2.) Chicago HAS to be breathin a sigh of relief, they got dominated both games at home but still managed a split.
3.) Toews HAS to be hurt, there was a shot of him at the bench rollin his shoulder and grimacin tonight. I bet that a strained shoulder or torn labrum is keepin him down.
4.) This series is 2-2, but in my mind its there for the Nucks takin. Chicago has no answer for our defensive game, the youth just doesnt have the experience.”

I had to answer with :

EXPERIENCE IS OVERRATED, OVERTIME GOALS ARE NOT

by Battery on May 8, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Heh

1) If they played a “perfect” road game, they would have won.
2) A team dominates with 15 shots on goal?
3) Thanks for the diagnosis, doctor. How’s Kevvy’s leg?
4) It’s 2-2 and both teams still have a chance to win? STOP IT RIGHT THERE!

by the wolf on May 8, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love how he can spell “labrum” correctly, but somehow forgets about the letter g if it ends a word. Is there a contingent of Brooklyn or Southie in Vancouver that we didn’t know about?

Great answer. My answer to something like number four is “So your experience of not doing shit past the second round in the playoffs is clearly paying off now. For Chicago, at least.” You know what, I’ll go post it now. I can’t sleep when I’m hung over.

by russellguldin on May 9, 2009 7:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Denial, no longer just a river in Egypt

First, the Havlat goal was bad defensive positioning coupled by a gutty dig out on the boards by Ladd.
Second, I’ll give them dominating game 3, but it’s wishful thinking to think they dominated Game 4. Luongo is the only reason that game wasn’t 3-1 or 4-1.

My goal? World domination.

by stickhandler on May 8, 2009 4:20 PM CDT reply actions  

lol

I was pretty trollish, over there, just to rile them up and I refuted his points, basically saying:

1. BORING BORING BORING, YOU PLAYED A STUPID ROAD GAME AND BASICALLY GOT LUCKY ON YOUR ONLY GOAL. WAKE THE FUCK UP AND PLAY SOME HOCKEY.

2. GAME 3 YES, GAME 4 NOT SO MUCH. LU WAS STANDING ON HIS HEAD MORE THAN KHABI WAS, AND YOU GUYS DIDNT HAVE MUCH OFFENSE AFTER THE 2ND PERIOD. KEEP PLAYING THE TRAP DEFENSE. ZZZZZZZZZZZZ

3. GOOD CHANCE, IT’S THE PLAYOFFS YOU SUCK IT UP.

4. EXPERIENCE IS OVERRATED. OVERTIME GOALS ARE NOT.

to which some genius named “Nuckels” (wow how clever and witty….)
responds with this crap obviously seen through canadian lebat blue goggles:

Hmmm, obviously we were watchin different games.

1. We did dominate, Chicago probably hasnt played a game all year as badly at home as the last 2. Oh wait, there was one late in the season VS Vancouver where they got shut down just as badly.
2. Lou didnt stand on his head, he made a couple great saves in the 2nd, but that was it. Khabi did his part also, but the chances were pretty even. The commentators can run out there numbers all they want. We know though when a scoring chance is a real one or not.
3. I’m not knockin Toews, i’m just pretty sure he’s hurt. Its an indirect compliment, cause he is an all-world player. I expected him to not put up to many points, but I still thought he would be a force.
4. The Nucks will win this series, last night was a glitch for the team. Hawks are done, and they will bank this year as a success cause of the all the experience they are getting.

Enjoy your last few games of the year.

by Battery on May 8, 2009 4:27 PM CDT reply actions  

careful with the trolling – a little back and forth is fine but don’t be a dick about it.

by Matthew Dirt on May 8, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nuckels really isn't worth the time/effort

He’s not a bad guy, but he’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer either.

NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE

by mjthor on May 8, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

I’m not being a complete dick, just trying to rub it in that they played the most boring 60 minutes of hockey and got what they deserved.

I just had to after the Nucks in 5 crap they were slinging a few days ago.

by Battery on May 8, 2009 6:45 PM CDT reply actions  

also, put any other goalie in the league in there instead of Lu and it’s a 3-1 game in the 2nd imo

by Battery on May 8, 2009 6:46 PM CDT reply actions  

That's why they pay him the $$$$

Because he’s a stud, that game was boring as hell, but it almost worked. I think Chicago really really needs to get the first goal in the next game to have a chance. Their dependance on the comeback is going to get a little long in the teeth.

by HockeyFan on May 8, 2009 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too true.

The first goal scored tomorrow could go a long way in determining the series. More than any game this season, the Hawks need to get the lead first tomorrow. If they make Vancouver play straight up 5 on 5 hockey, we’ve got a good chance of coming back to the UC looking to clinch it. If not, it’s going to be tough.

Got more soul than a sock with a hole.

by chrome on May 8, 2009 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

For sure

Compliment the Hawks on staying out of the penalty box to, 1 power play against all game? Are you kidding me, that’s a pretty amazing stat for a playoff game. But it also showed what kind of style the ’Nucks will play 5 on 5 and it is effective if they eliminate mental mistakes. Should be a doozy tomorrow night!

P.S. Loving the closeness of the playoffs this year, 3 series 2-2 and Carolina leading 2-1 currently tied 1-1 in game 4. So little parody in the league these days.

by HockeyFan on May 8, 2009 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yappy McYapper will play

“Canucks D Kevin Bieksa, who left early in overtime Thursday and was spotted limping after the game, said he will play Saturday, calling it a ‘lower-body injury, but nothing serious.’”

by the wolf on May 8, 2009 9:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Best. Post. Ever.

My goal? World domination.

by stickhandler on May 8, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Luongo's true colors showing

He says after the game that Havla “fanned on his shot” umm how about you fanned on the save you Egotistical maniac. Oh why don’t you throw your team under the bus too and say they sholdn’t allow that many chances.

Here’s to Buff taking your head clear off this time, tonight!!

by Roos-34 on May 9, 2009 10:19 AM CDT reply actions  

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