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Dave Bolland has been resigned, which was mine and a lot of others' offseason priority. 5 years at 3.7 per. While that sounds high to me right now, I truly believe by year three of this deal, we'll think he's a bargain. Your thoughts?
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That's a $3.6m cap hit
Tallon on a press call just said they were “very close to signing Bolland” so it’s not really a done deal yet. (Boo.)
Thing is, he also said there’s “nothing concret” re: Havlat talks and SOMEHOW, the talks with Khabibulin’s agent are “very positive” so the question is, wth is going on? Had Havlat nearly locked to sign an extension w/ us, and I thought Khabby would be gone.
Whatever. I’m just gonna save up for that Bolland jersey I’ve been itching to buy since toward the end of the season.
(Bollie!)
This worries me.
I really question how smart signing Khabbi is. We have a goalie (regardless of your feelings on Huet, he’s making #1 money). Tying up more money on a goalie reduces the money we can use on the Big Three. It also reduces the chances of Niemi and/or Crawford staying with us.
You and I are gonna live forever
by Original Six on Jun 26, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Only Way
Bulin stays is if Huet goes. And trading Huet a year after signing him as a free agent makes us look like dicks to any other free agents looking for a place to land.
by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 26, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Thats why
Tallon’s “very positive” remark has me perplexed. Why even get into talks with Khabbi unless there may be a deal lined up to trade Huet? It just blindsided me when I assumed we had seen the last of Khabbi and hadn’t heard anything about him since the end of the postseason until now.
You and I are gonna live forever
by Original Six on Jun 27, 2009 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Another possibility, though slim, is
if Khabby signs for really cheap. He could be signed to a one-year deal, just before Kane, Toews, Keith need to be signed.
At this point the math is this: Havlat could take up a little less than the cap space he currently has, Bolland has half the cap space Khabby used to take up, and then there’s Versteeg, who I DON’T think will be receiving as large an increase as Bolland. And what about Pahlsson? Are we signing him?
Then the problem will be fitting Kane Keith Toews next year. No matter what way you slice this, someone with a multi-million dollar cap hit will be going.
by chiblackhawks on Jun 27, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
And the money
…for Kaner, Toews and VERSTEEG! is going to fit under the cap how, precisely?
WAIT FOR THE WHISTLE!
by Sec 326 Bureau Chief on Jun 26, 2009 11:23 PM CDT reply actions
exactly
if Bolland is going to get $3.6 or $3.7 you have to assume Versteeg is going to get around $3-3.5 per right? Unless some combo of Huet, Sopel, Buff, Barker, and/or Versteeg are getting dealt I don’t see how Tallon can even offer Havlat a one year deal at any kind of fair market money. If Tallon can find someone stupid enough to take Huet and/or Sopel’s contracts and resign Khabby at around $3 million for one or two years I’ll be impressed.
by Crease Monkey on Jun 27, 2009 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions
What about trading
Dustin Byfuglien? That could free some money up.
I don't get it...
Bolland’s a RFA, which means the Hawks can match any offer he gets. The only reason to sign him this early is if you think you’re getting him at less than market value. Did the Hawks really think somebody was waiting with a $4MM a year offer for Bolland?
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Bolland's
Contract seems to be at market value IMO. Kaner put up 70 points for $3.75 million last season and there’s no reason to believe that Bolland couldn’t produce at that level. The only problem is that cap space is starting to become scarce. The FO knows that Kane, Toews and Keith need to be locked up and I can’t imagine they’d want to lose any of them. I’m sure a solution will be reached, it’ll be interesting to see who gets shipped out to make room.
Market Value?
“Kaner put up 70 points for $3.75 million last season and there’s no reason to believe that Bolland couldn’t produce at that level”
Sorry, but you can’t compare Kane’s contract/point production here. Kane got $3.75 million because he was the 1st overall pick in the draft. Bolland’s a nice little player, but he ain’t Kane.
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The comparison to Kane works for me in the sense of doing what he does very well. Kane is a point per game player who offers little in the way of defense. Bolland is a good two way center, strong on both the power play and the PK. Though he doesn’t score like Kane, he does so many other things that make him worth keeping. Plus bear in mind that his point totals were reached playing as the center of the Hawks’ checking line.
http://accordingtwomey.blogspot.com
Bolland's contract is nowhere close to market value
Boston signed David Krejci to a three deal worth $12 million with a cap hit of 3.75. Krejci had 73 points while Bolland notched 47. As of now, the Hawks overpaid for Bolland, but like Sam said it could be a solid deal in three years.
That makes me itchy, but let’s not kid around, the Hawks don’t seem to be the best negotiators.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jun 28, 2009 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't get this Bolland contract
Not sure what Dale Tallon did on this one. Bolland is a restricted free agent and he would have been wiser to go the route of matching any offer he would receive. Tying this much money up in Bolland suggests to me that Marty Havlat is a goner, which is a real pisser. Hawks desperately need Havlat back. There is zero chance Havlat is going to want to come back on a one year deal.
$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.
A few comparisons
Looking around the division by next year’s salary, this contract puts Bolland:
Between Franzen($4M) and Filpulla($3M) on the Wings.
Between Umberger($3.75M) and Vermette($2.8M) on the Jackets.
Below Tkacuck and Boyes ($4M each) on the Blues.
Between Dumont($4M) and Sullivan ($3.2M) on the Preds.
That’s some pretty serious company.
If the numbers pan out, it’s fairly obvious the Hawks believe Bolland is their #2 centerman for the next five seasons. I think that’s a reasonable assumption. He faced the best the opposition had to offer all season, and who really believes that their defensive success was because of Havlat’s backchecking ability?
With Marty likely heading out of town, next year we will probably see Sharp, Bolland, and Ladd or Byfuglien on the second line. Sharpie probably has a little less finish than Marty, but his 2-way skills are probably better.
by StretchingTwine on Jun 28, 2009 8:17 AM CDT reply actions
I think it will be Kaner
Playing with Bolland next season. Bolland’s not a playmaker (at least at this point in his career). Havlat was the guy who made things happen on that line and Sharp simply isn’t that type of player. I think they’ll pair Kane with Bolland(and Ladd or whoever) and hope he can play a role similar to Havlat’s.
I was thinking the Hawks best hope is that Bolland develops into a player like Mike Cammalleri, if that happens, the contract looks pretty good.
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Heatley
http://www.ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/2009/06/27/9957706.html
“Sources say the Los Angeles Kings have pulled out of the race for Heatley. The Minnesota Wild, San Jose Sharks and Vancouver Canucks are among the teams interested, while the Chicago Blackhawks are willing to make a deal if the Senators will take back defenceman Brian Campbell”.
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
Please please please please please please please take him back…
DO NOT WANT
I hope this is a case of rumor-mongering. Someone please tell me who is going to break the Hawks out of their own end during the power play should Campbell be dealt.
hopefully
someone who can do so without spending 30 seconds of said powerplay standing behind the net.
by runningquicklynowhere on Jun 29, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
If you’ve got a specific name for who is going to run it in that manner (not named Barker, Keith, or Bolland, as all three have shown they cannot perform the aforementioned task), then I’m all ears.
Are we talking about the same 30 seconds behind the net that led to a 30% power play conversion clip in the playoffs, by the way?
completely agree
Don’t like the sound of Heatley for Campbell. We need that day walker on the powerplay.
Well...
If I had a specific name I would have mentioned it… I was just simply pointing out that Campbell seems to be atributed this ability to single handedly up powerplay numbers by his mere presence in the stadium. Sorry, but I’m still not drinking the Campbell is power play greatness koolaid. The guy spends way to much time in his own zone before doing anything to the point of at times being the other teams best penalty killer.
That being said I was bored here at work today being it is slow with a holiday at the end of the week and I looked up some numbers related to that playoff power play conversion clip you mention above.
The Hawks had 68 powerplays, converting on 19 of them, for a 27.9% conversion rate.
Campbell himself accounted for 2 goals and 4 assists on the power play.
He was on the ice for 11 of the 19 power play goals scored.
Out of Defensemen (and for our purposes here Bolland as he was usually on the point) Campbell is tied with Seabrook for ice presence when a power play goal was scored:
G %
Campbell: 11 57.8
Seabrook: 11 57.8
Barker: 9 47.3
Bolland: 5 26.3
Keith: 3 15.7
Now one might say that was because Campbell and Seabrook were paired quite often on the power play during the playoffs, which is true. But Seabrook was only on the ice with Campbell 4 of the 11 times he was out when a goal was scored:
G w/Campbell
Seabrook: 11 4
Barker: 9 5
Bolland: 5 0
Keith: 3 2
Seabrook’s name wasn’t on your list of replacements not to be named either. And it would seem Barker wasn’t that far off the pace either. It would be curious to see how many overall power play shifts each had, besides just the ones in which a goal was scored. More importantly, I think this shows that Campbell did not carry the power play single handedly on his back like so many seem to believe.
Interesting is the numbers for forwards:
On ice for: G %
Byfuglien: 12 63.1
Kane: 10 52.6
Sharp: 9 47.3
Havlat: 8 42.1
Versteeg: 8 42.1
Toews: 7 36.8
Brouwer: 1 5.2
Pahlsson: 1 5.2
Seems everyones favorite slacker Byfuglien was on the ice more than anyone else when a power play goal was scored throughout the playoffs.
by runningquicklynowhere on Jun 29, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
ughh
ok, the tables didn’t format well at all and I can’t seem to get them to play nicely otherwise…
by runningquicklynowhere on Jun 29, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know
Considering Biscuit and Keith are on the ice for most of our PK and make up the shut-down pairing for top lines, neither is a viable option as a regular power play QB. Barker cannot perform that role due to speed, which leaves Campbell, who does the best job out of the four anyway, and does one of the better jobs of it in the league.
“The guy spends way to much time in his own zone before doing anything to the point of at times being the other teams best penalty killer.” That seems kinda crazy to me. The other team’s best penalty killer? I just don’t see that. If he’s behind the net waiting, it’s because the forwards and the first outlet aren’t in position, not because he’s stalling.
I’m quite happy with Campbell, obviously—exceedingly so, especially after he knocked shit out of his playoff reputation from last year in San Jose. I think he has 2-3 years now where he can only get better, which in my mind is really saying something, cause he’s already very good at what he does.
Funny how 2 fans can see such different things in one player. Also surprising how I can be so right and you so wrong. Heh, I kid.
How can Ottawa
take back a guy thyey never had? Or is this just a poor way of saying they have to take Campbell in exchange for Heatley?
For what it is worth, Heatley is a bit of a douche with a history of requesting trades and of being injured.
by runningquicklynowhere on Jun 29, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Dont forget his history of killing teammates in drunken, high speed crashes.
by Let'sGoHawks on Jun 29, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I was thinking the same thing.
The reporter clearly did not do his homework, and therefore I do not believe the validity of his article. Sorry, but a guy who can’t check sources might not have the best info.
by russellguldin on Jun 29, 2009 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Campbell played minor league or juniors in Ottawa.
by misplacedcanadian on Jun 29, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Not going to happen
Pure rumor mongering. Brian Campbell isn’t going anywhere. Thankfully so. Too many Hawk fans severely underestimate the value Campbell represents on this team. He is overpaid and has his shortcomings, but that doesn’t negate him being a major asset.
$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.
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