Versteeg Signs New Deal With the Blackhawks
by Killion on Jul 8, 2009 1:11 AM CDT
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PrintI'm not really sure what this means - but as Zarco says (and many others in the comments)- it seems the Blackhawks signed Versteeg to a very familiar contract. 3 years - 9.25 Million.
So I guess it's OK for me to go buy the VERSTEEG! jersey? I'm a bit tired and have a few drinks in me so I don't know how this is going to work. So everyone tell me, who gets traded now?
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What the?..
..umm…how the hell?…but…
Oh, nevermind!…let’s just win the cup next year and worry about it later…
What a glorious day!
Now I can wear my Versteeg jersey all day tomorrow!
I hope they don’t trade him, he will be a beast down the road.
He shoots, HE SCORES!!
Awesome
However, with this cap hit, I’m afraid they only person they’ll be able to afford to play defense is… Me.
Either someone is getting traded...
or someone is going to reluctantly have to start the season in Rockford, like Barker did last year. Then management will have to find a way to move around some salaries to fit everyone, at least untill the playoffs when the cap won’t matter.
How are they
going to keep Keith, Kane, and Toews with their contracts running out after this upcoming season?
jt
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Jul 8, 2009 8:25 AM CDT reply actions
I hope you are right sir. I keep hearing some form of trade. They can’t afford to lose Dunc, Toews, or Kaner.
jt
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Jul 8, 2009 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Like teams in other sports do
Trade away salary at the end of the year. If you want to win, go for it. It is the smart way to run a sports team. One of the worst things they could’ve done this offseason is sat still and said “we have to save money for next offseason”. They are showing that they want to win a championship, not just a couple of playoff series.
by Southside Hawks Fan on Jul 8, 2009 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions
blockbuster trade
I thought we had pretty much all accepted that up next we trade Buff for a bag of pucks and maybe some new practice jerseys, and then we’re set for next year.
Hawks played it safe
Better to sign VERSTEEG! then run the risk of him being declared UFA.
Problem with him is, where do you put him? First line is the Bobbleheads, second line is Ladd/Lucky Bolland/Hossa. Third line? Fourth?
Sounds like they may have signed him to trade him, but that’s my 2 cents.
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Here’s how I envision the top two lines, following the template of puck winner + playmaker + finisher.
Sharp/Toews/Kane – “Rain King” Line (Daydream Nation #10)
Versteeg/Bolland/Hossa – “Fresh Paper”
Versteeg and Hossa together? I don’t see this happening. I like your template, but you can’t have two puck-needy guys like that on the same line. Who is the “puck winner” in that line? Who gets nasty or the boards, in the corners? I think you try to put Ladd in Versteeg’s place, and see how that works at the start of camp. I think physical forward + playmaker + finisher is what you want.
The "HoBoLad" Line
is a sure fire winner. I can see the shirts right now…
by russellguldin on Jul 8, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
In my odd world, I had Hossa as the “puck winner” on that line. He’s stronger below the rings than Marty was, but obviously has a better scoring touch on top of it, this would allow Versteeg to float, which is really all he can be trusted to do in my world.
I’ll admit that line doesn’t have a clear cut puck winner, but I threw it together because I’m honestly salivating at the potential a Ladd/Madden checking line/PK unit has.
I know what you mean about Hossa being stronger, but I dont think we want him to smash-n-crash that much. I just think that a big body clears a lot of things up. Look at what Kunitz did for Crosby. You need to have a Buff/Ladd/and someday Beach guy go in and free up the puck. Versteeg is….I don’t think we fully know what we have in him, except a guy who can score, but hates to dump and chase.
Sharp/Toews/Kane possible line name
The “OMG, I have his jersey and he’s soooo cute” line
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by Hack on Jul 8, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Lmao
You have just made my day.
He shoots, HE SCORES!!
by LetsGoHawks32 on Jul 8, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Rec'd
What a name!
SHOOOOOOOT IT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jul 8, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
In theme of music
Kane and Tazer were born the same year that Testament released the great album “The Legacy.” The Legacy Line works on several levels, no?
by russellguldin on Jul 8, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Just in case Aliu winds up on a line with Madden and Byfuglien, I’m copyrighting “Oreo Line”.
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I think Disney already beat you to it with the first Mighty Ducks movie.
by Crease Monkey on Jul 9, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
your 2 cents are correct
no way we would let these two hit the market. Versteeg, Sharp, or Buff. One of these guys is going to get traded. The y will also probably try to throw Sopel in deal to get rid of him. The return will be a D-man. I’m guessing this happen before the season starts.
Any deal with Sopel
is a good deal (or bad, depending how you look at it). it looks like Buff would be the guy to go — but I wouldn’t be surprised if they traded Sharp to get more in return. I wouldn’t like the deal, but it wouldn’t surprise me.
Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
Sharp is simply too valuable to get away with a straight salary dump. Buff seems like the ideal choice because
a) you can “sell high” on his playoff performance
b) the Hawks have too many forwards who are the same size who are ostensibly supposed to do the same thing (Buff, Brouwer, Eager, Beach, Aliu), and obviously Buff makes the most money. Troy Brouwer could easily do what Buff would be asked to in a checking role with Madden and Ladd.
I agree
with Brouwer, Ladd, and Madden – it makes Buff more expendable. I just didn’t know what Buff’s contract was and knew that if the Hawks were simply trying to unload salary, Sharp earns more than Buff and would clear more cap space.
but both points you made here show that Buff would be the guy to trade.
Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
Forget it
Nobody is going to trade for Brent Sopel.
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Releasing him is unhelpful/unlikely
We’ll probably need to end up making him the best paid man in Rockford. His deal is two-way, right? Keeping him in Rockford and using AJ or Jordan Hendry as our 6th D man, combined with trading Buff for a sack of pucks should clear up the space.
No idea what next year’s plan is though. My guess would have to be that it doesn’t involve Patrick Sharp, though.
one way or two way
If he has a one way contract, would we have to put him on waivers to send him down? That way if some team picks him up, we are free of his salary. Or maybe I missed something here. NHL 09 messes with my sense of reality.
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by Original Six on Jul 8, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
He is definitely a one-way contract—- no one takes 2+ mill on a two-way. If you send him down, he must clear waivers, and then if someone picks him up, they pay his full salary but they split his cap-hit with you, meaning you’re still on the line for 1 mill of his salary.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 8, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course, if no one takes him, you put him on your farm team. Then you still pay his full $2+ mill salary, but it’s completely off the cap.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 8, 2009 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I think that's a trade the Hawks Front Office
is willing to make. They sold enough jerseys last year to pay the salary, it’s just cap room that’s at a premium.
Heck, I’ll buy a fifth jersey if it gets Sopel’s salary off the books.
I didn't realize that the cap hit was split
that puts a small damper on that plan. But really…. who’s going to claim Sopel off of waivers?
Does Nickelback have partial ownership of the Canucks?
Then the Canucks.
Got more soul than a sock with a hole.
Sharp or Versteeg will be traded
I think it is a virtual guarantee. The return we receive will be muted because any deal will be a salary dump of sorts, especially if Sopel gets thrown in the mix.
$136 million payroll for a .500 style ballclub. Good work Jim.
What's the reasoning?
By doing that, you’re negating the offensive improvement generated by signing Hossa.
Like The Great McClure said, the successful role Buff played at the end of the year is replaceable w/in the system, at cheaper cost. The same can’t be said of Versteeg or Sharp.
Got more soul than a sock with a hole.
No one's even sure Buff can repeat his performance
Not even including the cuteness factor, I think the Hawks would lose a lot if they trade Sharp (which also includes a really good photoshop by mjthor).
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
So long as the buyer believes he will, I’ll be happy.
by russellguldin on Jul 8, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Im pretty sure
If we knew how to run a sports team (IE: Tender qualifying offers in the appropriate amount of time), we could have had Barks and Steeger for half that price. Hope this doesn’t bite us in the ass.
But those would be one and done deals
At least they have those guys signed to 3 year contracts, if for nothing else, to trade.
Big "Fuck you" to the NHLPA?
Anyone else see Barker and Versteeg signing as a total slap in the face (balls) to the PA? I mean, the PA was supposedly filing this grievance on behalf of these guys, but neither of them even waited to see the resolution to this thing. I guess in the end, these two guys probably got about what they wanted, but my guess is they could have gotten even more if they had become UFAs.
Perhaps that's true ...
But one unknown to consider is, how many teams out there were interested in them that had a better shot at the cup than Chicago? Which, for younger players, equals big money in the later portions of their careers.
Signing with Chicago is a career move, as well as one that shows heart. You grow up wanting the Cup, but you live in the real world and want to get paid. This works out for both of those asperations, IMO.
I agree with this
There’s no guarantee of anything this year, but you have to think the Hawks are going to be very serious contenders. If no cup this year, then probably sometime in the next two seasons after that. It’s not A-Rod money, but it’s great money on a serious team. I would think STEEG! is still tradebait after this year, but I doubt Tallon would lock him up just to avoid not getting something in return. Now that he has signed him, I think he needs to keep him if for no other reason than to not look like a ruthless asshole, at least for this year.
Tallon said
that they wanted to stay here and, in spite of the paperwork screw-up, I have to think they did after the year they had, especially at the UC. Something big started 2 seasons ago near season’s end when we missed the playoffs by 3 points and last year it caught fire. The players appreciate what the fans at the UC have done in that period of time. I think they know this is the year to step it up and go for it all.
Are we all jumping the gun on Hossa replacing Jesus. While this is true as far as the roster move, don’t you think adding Kaner to the Bolland/Ladd line makes the most sense? I like Hossa/Toews/Sharp. Ladd/Bolland/Kane. Versteeg/Madden/Brouwer. Eager/Kopecky/Burish. Trade Buff. Fraser as the other guy.
by oneminuteremainingintheperiodoneminute on Jul 8, 2009 12:41 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
a respectable idea but....
on paper, Sharp and Hossa are our two best pure snipers, I think they should be split up.
Plus, the only way I see Sharp reaching his 40 goal potential is if he skates with Kane.
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why does everyone hate buff so much? Hopefully he keeps hustling like he did in the post season. Brouwer can do what he does? Really? I get that brouwer makes less money but he is not as good as buff when buff is trying. Man, Y’all be racist! Hahaha JAY KAY!!! KTHXBYE!
Luv Big Buff but the reality of it.
by oneminuteremainingintheperiodoneminute on Jul 8, 2009 1:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
help me get to know my new hawks…is kopecky a center only or can he be a winger?
by oneminuteremainingintheperiodoneminute on Jul 8, 2009 2:31 PM CDT reply actions
he’s more suited to a wing but he can play C if need be. His FO% last year was right around 45%, Fraser was right around the same mark and Bolland was just under at 44.4%.
by Crease Monkey on Jul 8, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Hudler gone?
allegedly Jiri Hudler signed with the Dynamo Moscow of the KHL…of course these KHL reports are always sketchy until word comes directly from the player or his agent, but that would be a pretty big loss for the Scum since he was set to finally become a top 6 forward.
http://www.detnews.com/article/20090708/SPORTS0103/907080404/1128/rss16
if it’s true. GOOD! I’d like to see nothing more than the Wings burn to the ground. Hockeytown my ass. Arrogant beat-offs
I've heard it's true..
but it’s probably just a strategy move for Hudler. He’s trying to put more pressure on the Wings to pay up… probably not a good move though since they have cap issues of their own.
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Let's tray and maintain
a little bit of professionalism, here…it’s onlytrue if it was posted on twitter…
Holland confirms
http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2009/07/jiri_hudler_agrees_to_contract.html
Hudler is gone
wonder if this had something to do with it
by Crease Monkey on Jul 9, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Or this?
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
Answering Zoot's Question
“why does everyone hate buff so much?”
I don’t think that it’s that people hate Buff (though some do). But it’s exactly like McClure said…sell high on his playoff performance. His cap hit is $3 mil a year. That means he’s the financial equivalent of Barker or Versteeg…approximately. Simply put, of those three, who’s the least valuable? One is a PP QB for years to come, one finished second in the ROY voting last year, and one got benched midway through the season for being lazy.
Well put
by oneminuteremainingintheperiodoneminute on Jul 8, 2009 6:01 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
And now the final piece of the puzzle
Finally signed! VERSTEEG! has decided to withdraw from the possibility of becoming a UFA and return for another 3 seasons as a Windy City Warrior. 3-years at $9.25 million must have him feeling a bit ‘Glamorous’ by now. Forget ipod Kris, now you have the cheddar to afford backstage passes LMAO.
In any event, it’s really nice to see all 6 guys back with the Hawks and shows not only do they have the excellent talent but are really ‘good people’ as well. What other team can boast that their players would opt out at the chace at becoming a UFA just to benefit their organization that they feel has a legitimate opportunity to win Lord Stanley’s Mug?
In the end, it’s definitely a happy ending to what has been an unsettling situation. May it be the end of the turmoil and the beginning of the good fortune.
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
Hate to say it, Hawks fans, but I’d guess the only really safe bet is a Hossa jersey at this point.
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I'm going to be rocking
an 81 with PANDA on the nameplate if things turn out well
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What about the adjectives?
It’s not quite the same without them. And we still need a photoshop.
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
Just have a piece of velcro just before “PANDA” and attach whichever adjectives fit the player.
by russellguldin on Jul 8, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
My suggestion
I suggest that if Hossa is “Sad Panda” when he’s bad, then he’s “A Buffet of Manliness” when he’s good.
Observe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npeuz_O_-RM
And I wonder why I’m now unemployed.
is he gonna be 81 or 18? He has been both. I think he was 18 with the Portland Hawks. Maybe he’ll change things up to better his luck.
by The Admiral on Jul 8, 2009 11:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Denis Savard would not be pleased
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by El Duque's Raft on Jul 8, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions
but as long as the hawks offered him some bullshit position a few weeks later I think he’d just roll over and accept it
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they'd have to sweeten the pot
maybe a carton of Marlboros every month…
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by El Duque's Raft on Jul 9, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions
aaaactuualllyy
the hawks twitter said he will be 81.
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by Original Six on Jul 9, 2009 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Didn't you see...
the photo from another post (was it yesterday?) that showed the 81 Hossa jersey hanging in the Blackhawks Store front window? I still think it’s weird that they changed the name HawkQuarters, it’s like Bettman changing all the divisions to reflect geography vs. Hockey Pioneers…retarded if you ask me.
Just went back
and put this panda pic next to the Hossa sad panda look when Sharpie scored the one and only game winner in the WCF. He really does have sad panda face!
So it's not a reference
to sad sexual harrassment panda?
If I can't be a good example, I'll just be a horrible warning
Didn't pick that up til I started reading Committed Indian
Thank you Sam Fels for expanding my vocabulary.
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