More Season Preview Fun - What Will The Lines Look Like?
There's a chance that some of you may have been hoping for perhaps a change in editorial staff on the blog to go along with the cosmetic makeover. Well, no such luck. You're stuck with our jizz jokes for the foreseeable future.
With the exhibition season now officially under way, we're bound to see some goofy line combinations trotted out there due to the expanded roster and the coaching staff wanting to know who works well with whom. But, clearly, we know better than the highly paid and respected Joel Quenneville as relatively anonymous internet bloggers, so let's go ahead and take a look at
As we've noted time and again, the Blackhawks are overstocked at forward. It's very likely that once Marian Hossa returns from shoulder surgery, someone from last year's squad could very likely be toiling in Rockford if their performance has slipped even in the slightest bit. Also, for this exercise, I'm going to go ahead and assume that Hossa IS healthy, since, in theory, he should be with the club the majority of the year.
Starting with the top line, to me, the only absolute is that Jonathan Toews is going to be centering it. Captain Marvel has established himself as the team's number 1 center, and can do it in all three zones. His wings, however, are another story. While the easy thing would be to have Patrick Kane and Hossa flank Toews, it does not come without its minor problems. First, the Hawks run the risk of front-loading their scoring. While scoring depth was not an issue last season, teams that become one line deep are relatively easily nuetralized, no matter how good that line is. Just ask the Ducks last year. Additionally, with this combination, Hossa is somewhat under utilized as a playmaker, as Kane will be likely be the one expected to distribute the puck. So if we place Hossa elsewhere, the natural person to step in would be Patrick Sharp. The Sharp-Toews-Kane combination has worked very well in the past, with Toews winning battles and draws, and Kane finding the team's best natural finisher. However, this combination only works if as Sam said last week 2007-2008 Patrick Sharp returns being a moderate physical presence and responsible in his own zone.
Moving to the second line, it's again fairly clear that it will be centered by Dave Bolland, and as I've established above, Marian Hossa should be placed on Bolland's right. Hossa will be asked to fill in Marty Havlat's spot on Bolland's wing, which his career numbers fully indicate he should be able to do no problem. While Bolland isn't the seizure-inducing playmaker Kane can be, he's very adept at putting the puck exactly where it needs to be to allow his linemates to do what they do best with it, and Hossa should flourish with Bolland. The question then becomes who is on the other wing opposite Hossa. Andrew Ladd would have no problem in his familiar spot along side Bolland, but given Ladd's defensive presence and the Hawks' acquisition of John Madden, Ladd's skills may be better utilized in a true shut-down role. The loss of his physicality on the line is mitigated by the fact that Marian Hossa, while not a banger, is a far bigger physical presence than Martin Havlat was. And Hossa's physicality should make for enough space for Kris Versteeg to maximize his abilities as possibly the team's slickest puck handler. Steeger's wrist and snap shots are nothing to complain about either, so the thought is also that a line of Versteeg-Bolland-Hossa would give room enough to let those shots fly.
Off-season pick up and Selke winner John Madden has been penciled in as the third line/checking center since the millisecond after he signed on July 1. It's what he's done his entire career, and the hope is that he continues to do so here in Chicago. With Andrew Ladd on his wing, the makings of an elite shutdown line are in place. The opposite wing is a bit of a predicament, however. Getting down toward the bottom of the roster, there are numerous forwards who all do very similar things. And while this may be a huge leap that I may regret making later, it seems as though the light finally went on last season for Dustin Byfuglien when he was asked to help Sammy Pahlsson check the other team's top line. Madden is more decorated than Pahlsson, so there should be no reason to believe Buff couldn't maintain the level of productivity he provided along side Pahlsson. And a line of Byfuglien-Madden-Ladd sounds like a pretty damn rugged checking line to have to face shift after shift.
Now that we're getting down to the bottom of the roster is where some of the real tough choices are going to be made. Tomas Kopecky and his $1 million dollar salary seem like a lock to be in place here (if not further up the depth chart). Kopecky adds a lot of size and versatility to what was already one of the best 4th lines in the league last year. Ben Eager adds to that size and provides speed and grit as well, and Adam Burish brings crabs.....wait...not that kind of pest. The hockey kind. The kind everyone loves to have on their fourth line. A line of Eager-Kopecky-Burish should be just as productive, if not more so, than last year's incarnation. Apologies to Troy Brouwer and Colin Fraser, and they'll definitely be first to suit up if Eager and Burish can't keep their shit together, or Buff returns to slack-ass mode. But while they work very hard and overachieved last year, no one can realistically say that either is anything more than a fourth liner on a team that has a reasonable shot to win a Stanley Cup, which for the first time in a long time, this team does. God DAMN does it feel good to type that.
Ladd-Madden-Byfuglien
Eager-Kopecky-Burish
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Agreed
completely with those lines. I also like Versteeg on the second line as A) Versteeg (when not refusing to dump the puck) should be able to help set Hossa much more than Ladd can, and B) playing along side of Hossa and Bolland should add at least 25 points of hockey IQ which Versteeg sorely lacks.
Sharp-Toews-Kane
Versteeg-Bolland-Hossa
Ladd-Madden-Byfuglien
Eager-Kopecky-Burish
Like those line combinations
Still believe to start the season that Versteeg will join Madden and Byfuglien on the 3rd line with Ladd reassuming his role with Bolland on the 2nd line, and I have already made my case for Sharp being paried with the Daydream Nation on the 1st line so no need to dive into that arguement again. I do like the 4th line of Eager-Kopecky and Skille (now that Burish is gone for up to 6 months) for there is a little bit of ‘meat and potatoes’ on this line but with Skille it adds a lit offensive punch. The biggest question (after Saturday) is: Is this the Byfuglein were going to see? may we all hope for the 3rd line just got a whole lot better.
But in the end we all know that if the Hawks look lethargic at any point during any game that Quenneville will go Fitz on the lines and totally SlapChop the lines into pieces which may result into unfathomable combinations like Byfuglien-Kopecky-Kane and such. If things get really bad he might bring out the Graty…“fetuccini, linguine, martini, bikini…”.
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
Keep Bolland and Ladd together as a nexus of stability
…also, ACL or not, I’d go with Brouwer over Burish easy. Call me unsentimental.
Still gotta patch it up until Hossa’s back. Plus, if Bolland is hurting, we may have a rocky start to the year, but we may also create opportunities for others to get a shot.
I can see this in flux until Christmas at least.
This made me feel smarter
these are the exact lines I setup on NHL 2K10…I have a Wii and EA apparently didn’t feel like spreading the hockey love to Nintendo and the Wii system. I still don’t know why.
Yep, video game reference…I’m a dork. But, I imagine most of the gentlemen (even the couple of women, possibly) who read/comment on SCH are EA NHL series fans/players.
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"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
haha
i traded versteeg for jack johnson in nhl 10, otherwise i would have had the same lines
"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." GMH
During the Training Camp
The lines, such as they were, went like this:
1. Kane – Toews – Versteeg
2. Sharp – Madden – Byfuglien
3. Skille – Kopecky – Bickell
Somebody – Dowell – Somebody (They were down on the other end of the ice for most of the skate)
I know these aren’t season lines; if T-Bone and Fraser are fighting for a spot, then Bicks and Dowell (and sadly, Skille) are going to be season no-shows. I thought the second line was intriguing, if a little weird.
I prefer the lines you have here, McClure. There is a great spread of scoring skill, as I think that Laddie will put his hare in the net (10 realistically; 20 hopefully?), and Eags showed last year that he has a certain flair for the soft-handed goal every now and again. Of course, this means that there will be no HoBoSaLadd (Or HoBoLadd) line on the ice, thereby destroying my marketing ploy for worst line slogan/T-Shirt venture ever.
Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.
One comment I have seen floating around a lot about Kopecky is that he is likely to be 4th line center but he is someone who could also play on a 2nd line and not miss a beat.
I like the sound of your lines as the best combo but I could also see this as a possibility:
Kane-Toews-Versteeg
Sharp-Kopecky-Hossa
Ladd-Bolland-Buff
Eager-Madden-Burish
The only advantage I see on this lineup over the other proposed lineup is that your third line would seem to have a little more firepower(and is actually just Buff replacing JHC on the famous checking line from last year). Now I only say this due to the fact that I have heard (possible) great things for Kopecky. I also don’t know how familiar Hossa and Kopecky are, but I know they are friends, countrymen, and teammates last year. This could help with a gelling of them together on the same line(again, speculation).
Let me know if you think I am on to something or just plain and simply, F’N mental.
great post
Also, I’m happy to be stuck with the jizz jokes.
How long is Hossa expected to miss?
Pre Hossa Hawks
Sharp/Toews/Kane
Ladd/Bolland/Versteeg
(Brouwer/Skille/Makarov/INSERT NAME HERE)/Kopecky/Byfuglien
Eager/Madden/Burish
Post-Hossa Hawks
Sharp/Toews/Kane
Versteeg/Bolland/Hossa
Ladd/Kopecky/Byfuglien
Eager/Madden/Burish
Until Hossa’s shoulder is all better, the Hawks will make due with whomever the hot hand is out of camp. The spot on the 3rd line may shift depending on who has the hot hand. I’d also say that there’s a possibility Burish is given a chance to play on the 3rd line with Buffs and Kopecky.
I think that with the depth that the Hawks have, a lot of players could be on the first or second line on other teams. With that said, I bet Quenneville will give a bunch of guys a chance at the first and second lines throughout the season. I bet Ladd will get some playing time on the first line. If Byfuglien plays well, he’ll see a lot of time on the first and second line. With so many back-to-back games this season, the depth will come in handy where they’’ll have fresh skaters on the top line for that second game. I think the lines listed above are the ideal lines, but I think it will be fun to see some different lines as the season goes on and even see some of the looks before Hossa gets into the mix.
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well all these lines are gonna change now
cause apparently burrish is out for the next 6 mos with a torn ack

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