Questions Are The Answers You Might Need: Second City Hockey's Season Preview
It's that time! With the Hawks returning to camp at the weekend, we get ramped up and ready to go here on the site full time. The three of us spent some time figuring out how we want to preview the season, and we decided that only mere weeks after doing a player-by-player review of last season, the same method for a preview wouldn't work (if you want one, The Fifth Feather is doing an excellent job of one). Also, we're too lazy and non-sober to get through it again, being unemployed and dumb. So, we've decided that each day until the season starts, one of us will tackle a question facing the Hawks this season . They may have to do with a specific player, or who plays with who, or coaching, or games, or whatever. We think this is a little more free form and gives us a less rigid way to talk about the upcoming season. So today is...
Can The Hawks Win A Cup With Cristobal Huet?
Ah, Cristobal, everyone's favorite punching bag, and yet another demonstration of how Chicago fans hate anyone with a large paycheck. Huet is going to get his share of scrutiny, and there will be many theories around about how the Hawks will become Flyers West -- team Cup-ready everywhere else but in net, and the crippling that can be.
Personally, I think you can, but let's look a little deeper. Huet's numbers last year -- a SV% of .909 and a GAA of 2.53. This is contrasted by Khabby's SV% of .919 and GAA of 2.33. So worse, but by how much? And what would these numbers mean with 20 more starts for Huet? Well, at 20 more starts, with an average of 26.5 shots against per game (the average he saw in his 41 starts last year) it would result in about 48 more goals against, whereas Khabby's SV% would allow a little over 42. Somehow, I doubt six goals over 20 games should matter all that much, but it might.
But there's more to look at. According to Behind The Net, Huet faced the second most difficult shots against in the league, only behind King Henrik on Broadway (more on why this may be later). His expected GAA was supposed to be 2.57, and expected SV% .895, both of which he outperformed. So however you look at it, Huet would be a plus-goalie, just how much is open to debate.
Ah, but this isn't baseball, and you can't rely totally on numbers. There is an eye test, one which Huet's results in have made us all nervous. There are rebounds galore (probably resulting in the high danger levels in the shots he sees) and there are times when his positioning can be woeful. However, Huet is a far different style than we are used to seeing. Whereas Khabby was a high-wire act reliant on reflexes and athleticism, Huet is all positioning and anticipation. When he's slightly off, it can be way off. However, with him now expected to get the bulk of starts, the Hawks defense knows what they're getting, and will probably cheat more to the middle to deal with rebounds more often.
But how many starts should he get? Huet has never carried a full load (tee hee), and 60 starts should be the absolute max he gets to. During various Khabby injuries, Huet was great for 3 or 4 games in a row, tops, and then would fall apart in games 5 and 6 in a row. Doesn't inspire confidence, but whoever wins the backup job must prove they can handle starting one out of every three games.
Ah, but the big question, can he win in the playoffs? Well, the Hawks were in the Conference finals with what statistically was the worst goalie in the playoffs. Khabby's numbers were a GAA of 2.93 and a SV% of .898, which is just plain bad. So how much better does Huet have to be? What I have seen far too much of is the assumption that because Huet was heroic Game 5, he'll be fine. Only Cub fans base large projections of very small sample sizes (Sam Fuld, Micah Hoffpauir anyone?). There are only 16 playoff appearances to Huet's name, and one or two of those in relief.
So to answer? I think so. Gone are the days when your goalie has to drag you across the finish line. These days, your goalie just needs to make a big save when he has to, and outside a period here or there, Khabibulin most certainly didn't. Huet will one or two games by himself come April, and he'll probably lose one. But assuming natural growth from the rest of the roster, and improved playoff performances from everyone, Huet is more than capable of slightly improving on Khabby's playoff numbers to start a parade.
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My Take
While I’m in agreement that Cris is capable of succeeding in the playoffs, I think that it’s going to be a function of an improved defensive corps, as well as having a true checking center for an entire season. With the subtraction of the 6’4" parking cone that was Matt Walker and Niklas Hjalmarsson presumably stepping into a full time role as Brian Campbell’s even strength partner, it should minimize some of those alleged “difficult” chances. Additionally, with John Madden on board, both in positioning and face-off percentage, that should also help to mitigate any potential downgrade from Khabibulin to Huet. Remember, the Hawks faceoff percentage as a team, and the PK were in the lower half of the league. If those are improved, the chances should be reduced.
However, his workload will be something to monitor closely, and hopefully either Crawford or Niemi step up and firmly grab the backup role, as that role is going to have about 25% of the starts. If Huet gets hurt, it could be a one way ticket to Screw City, and the Hawks may have to look outside to organization to plug that hole.
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I think with big changes to faceoff wins and the PK, huge changes will happen on the ice. Stuff like that breeds confidence. Funny that we model ourselves as a puck possession team but can’t win a faceoff; and although we have a ton of defensively responsible players, our PK was terrible.
This division is stronger than ever—like the Northwest of a few years ago … and that means we’ll be beating the shit out of each other all year. Small wins on the ice—at the dot; a man down; on the PP; in front of the net at both ends—are going to end up meaning a lot this year.
The division is crazy strong...
Make no mistake it is going to be a battle to secure 1 of the 8 playoff spots.
I’m not altogether worried about Huet. He should be decent, and if not then the weasel Stan Bowman has enough ammunition within the organization to pull off a mid-season trade for another net-minder.
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
...meant to say "conference," not division
"Cubs will win 79 to 83 games." BLou (7/21/09)
It seems.....
Very similar to the Bears season. If Huet and Cutler stay healthy, we could have some serious playoff runs on our hands. If they get hurt, the team is crippled. Although, I think the Bears would be in way worse shape if Cutler went down then the shape the Hawks would be in if Huet gets hurt.
I expect Huet to become the HERO we all know he can be
and play every game like it’s Game 5.
Really, though, I think the statistical analysis you brought up is pretty valid, and something a lot of us (especially myself) pointed to last season when people were so quick to throw Huet under the bus. The criticisms you bring up are spot-on, though, as he did let in his share of “soft” goals and struggled to perform in multiple contests in a row.
I’m hoping that he’ll rise to the task and that being the goalie will give him the confidence of this guy:

P.S. Yes, hockey is not baseball, but wouldn’t it be cool if we had something similar to WAR (Wins Above Replacement level) for hockey?
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Re: WAR
I’m not sure a statistic like that would ever work in hockey, at least among the position players. There’s way too many moving parts during the course of a game to have a number that accurately tells you who’s more valuable than whom. I will say, though, that goalie is probably the one position where sabermetrics would best fit.
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by El Duque's Raft on Sep 8, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
not to mention the need to factor in salary for a salary cap sport. That’s why Puck Prospectus uses GVS (Goals-Versus-Salary) in their GVT metric.
by Crease Monkey on Sep 9, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know Lloyd the French are ***holes!
Just kidding…I think Huet will be fine. I think playing more will help on those crazy rebounds he loves to give up. Plus like was already mentioned I also think the defense will be more comfortable playing in front of him. I can not wait to get the season started! I am not even sure who this cubs team you speak of is.
Good summary
1. Huet can be good enough.
2. Hakws PK was average, not terrible, last year.
3. The goalie-salary-heavy roster last year cost Crawford, who got no NHL ice, after picking up a SO in just three starts the year before.
4. I predict Crawford will be #2 and will be a pleasant surprise.
Huet will be just fine.
He’s proven it in the past and will again this season. Any worries that Huet can shoulder the responsibility of being the number 1 netminder should be put to rest early and often. Just look at his 2007-2008 numbers when he was clearly the #1 in Montreal then Washington. Both teams moved Huet in favour of Price (Mtl.) and The-odor(e) (Wash.) and looked how that faired for both of those squads, sure bet both of them would have loved to have Huet between the pipes during the playoffs.
As for the playoffs, Huet has enough games under his belt to be confident going into the post-season so that shouldn’t be a problem. As for being a team with the biggest question mark on their goaltending going into the playoffs? It didn’t work so bad for the Wings last year did it with Osgood, who was clearly the best goaltender in the postseason. Or the Penguins with Fleury in 2008, when many didn’t think he was up to it after his poor performance against the Senators a year prior. Or the Canes in 2006 once Gerber was diagnosed with an illness and couldn’t play. For some reason Ward didn’t turn out so bad. So it might be a good thing!
I also agree with cliffkoroll that Corey “Fitty” Crawford will be the #2 goaltender and will do well for he did show a lot poise when he played back in March of 2008 when the Hawks were trying to make a push into the post-season. Not to mention how impressed I was in his relief performance of Huet in Game 4 against the Wings for he was, basically, thrown to the wolves in the 2nd period of that game and did come up with some decent saves in a difficult situation. So my worries about our goaltending are pretty much at nil, for I think we’re in good shape.
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But was Osgood that good?
This is not a hit on Detroit’s goalie (though Detroit does indeed suck!) but in watching the tapes of the Hawks’ playoff games this summer (hey, it was something better to do than wait for McDonough’s next PR disaster), it seemed to me that Osgood was adequate, not exceptional. Yes, he had a good save percentage, but if you watch the games, he is “protected” constantly by a defenseman. He made a handful of tough saves (in some games I would even say only 1 or 2) but it was very rare to see a shot on goal without Lidstrom in the picture. The times when it was Osgood by himself is when he gave up goals.
I think the Hawks may have to take the same approach with Huet. As much as I’d like to expect great things out of him, he has to stop giving up a ridiculously soft goal every other game for me to be convinced.
That said, I think the Hawks should be at or near the top of the conference this year—IF they play as hard as last season. Being a Chicago fan (and therefore inclined to expect bad things) I’m very worried that our young guns will think that their success last season will be “automatic” this season. If anything, it will be twice as hard since everyone will be gunning for them. I just hope they don’t have to get into a hole in the first month in order to be motivated to put forth the effort.
Last year's experience should help!
Heading into last season great expectations were being placed onto the Blackhawks shoulders and they came out with a thud starting the season 1-3-1 with head coach Denis Savard being replaced by Joel Quenneville in only 4 games to start the season, and with the season in flux at the start the Hawks rebounded and turned in one of the best regular season’s in franchise history so that experience alone will definitely help.
Knowing what awaits helps in the preparation in that all those players know that this season the Hawks are considered as main Stanley Cup contenders, if not favourites, and with the additions of Hossa, Kopecky, and Madden (experienced players who’ve gone through this process) the Hawks should be able to live up to expectations.
To quote Wayne Gretzky: “the only thing that beats hard-work is hard-working skill” and as long as the Hawks keep that in mind they should be O.K..
It's never about the eventual destination, but rather the long journey and its challenging obstacles that are presented and what it takes to overcome them, that makes the taste of success all the more worthwhile!!!
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by russellguldin on Sep 9, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Stats
Sam’s comments above about the difference in SV% between Khabby and Huet adding up to 6 goals every 20 games got me thinking…..Last year the Hawks won by an average of .585 goals per game. The won or lost 31 games by 1 goal. An extra 6 goals in 20 games comes out to .3 goals per game. The difference is not the end all-be all, but it’s not insignificant. I guess that’s why they play the games.
by Who'syourKhabby on Sep 10, 2009 7:02 AM CDT reply actions

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