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Fight Fire With Fire, Bursting With Fear: Hawks 4 - Sharks 3 (OT)

Well, that was something, wasn't it?  A series between these two would be tons of fun.  Even more so because I can't see how the Hawks wouldn't win it.  But more on that later. 

I know what Sharks fans will tell me in the comments after I write this wrap.  They will tell me the Sharks showed incredible heart to come back from three down to get a point.  They will tell me they dominated the Hawks for the middle of that game.  That is only partially true.  Here's what I saw:  I saw a team that was in no ready to answer the bell (despite being off since Saturday).  Either they took McLlelan's downplaying of this too seriously, or they just weren't ready, or whatever.  They were mauled for the opening 10 minutes, possibly most of the 1st.  Then fear of embarrassment kicked in, and the Sharks took it to the Hawks for a long stretch.  Fear of embarrassment became pure confidence.  Then, after tying the game, I saw a team that hid under the covers and hoped it would all be over soon,  It wasn't.  You can have your Conference lead.  I know when the trophies are handed out, a team with this mental fragility will be on the couch.

Anyway, to that wonderful encounter.  The Hawks were marvelous from the off, and had the Sharks pinned for great gobs of time.  Coach Q fought fire with fire, and matched Toews against the Thornton line, with surprising results ( you can see for yourself with the shift charts).  Maybe Q didn't think much of Thornton's and Heatley's backchecking ability (he wouldn't be the first), maybe he didn't trust Versteeg and Buff to do the right things.  Whatever, the top line more than held its own.  They were +3 to Thornton's line of -3.  The scoring opened when Kane was allowed to find the trailer, and Buff made no mistake.  Teams are going to stop allowing him to do that at some point, right?  Maybe they can't.

Floodgates open.  Keith was able to dispossess Thornton at center, Toews found Troy "Iron Tusk" Brouwer, who beat Nabokov short side.  But the fun didn't stop.  After a faceoff win by The Shooter, Hossa was able to fire a shot, and Sharp's man completely lost him allowing him to get the rebound and find Ladd.

It was clear the Sharks were rattled, and Doug Murray went a little overboard trying to get his team going and took a less than good penalty.  If the Hawks had converted there, it might have been over.  But they didn't, and soon Marc-Edouard Vlasic was able to find Joe Pavelski who had beaten Keith to the crease (perhaps his only mistake all night).

The Sharks took not being out of it after 20 as a sign from God, and were all over the Hawks in the 2nd.  Defensive turnovers, poor passes, the Sharks forced us into all of it.  It paid off on the power play when Pavelski hit Hossa's foot and into the net it went.  Things continued like that into the 3rd, when the Sharks tied it after Brent Sopel fired a pass to...well, no one and Malhotra was able to tip one in.

And then came the Floyd Mayweather "I'll just wait for the scorecards here" and the Hawks once again were on top. They had several chances late to win it, more after Thornton took a panicky penalty with less than 2 to go.  But the Hawks couldn't convert that one either.  It all ended when Troy "Work Horse" Brouwer skated down with Versteeg 2-on-2 with Versteeg rightly crashing to the net.  Brouwer put Huskins on his ass, and wired one top corner to end it.  Love. It.

Observations

-Do you think Kane is watching Seabrook these days and salivating at getting a shot at him in the Olympics.  Drew Doughty had better be ready to play.

-He won't get a point tonight, but I thought Versteeg actually had a very strong game.

-Anyone else totally surprised you couldn't find Heatley with a roadmap after Ladd buried him?

-Why do Ducks fans and Sharks fans insist on making the "Let's go Sharks/Ducks" chant four syllables. 

-Hey, a game where we can't possibly have anyone complain about Huet!  He was large tonight, and provided the roadmap for how the Hawks will win with him the spring.  Make the saves he has to make, and not worry about the goals he couldn't do anything about.  Consider that controversy over for a week.

-The Hawks dug their own graves in the second by not having any forwards within a zip code for breakouts.  How many times was a Hawk d-man carrying the puck and have no passing options?  That's just sloppy and lazy.  Thankfully, they corrected it in the 3rd.

Corsi

Player of The Game

You can make a real case for Huet, but there's only one answer.  Troy Lowen-Brouwer.

 

Poll
Okay, what about these for Brouwer's nickname (now that he clearly gets one)?
Iron Tusk
148 votes
Workhorse
102 votes
Lowen-Brouw
248 votes
Think harder, Homer
233 votes

731 votes | Poll has closed

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I am still campaigning for....

30 Days of Night! The resemblance cannot be denied! AND THE TEETH! Come on folks.

by DudeMcnude on Jan 29, 2010 12:42 AM CST reply actions  

there were 1300+ comments on this game

I have nothing to add right now. fun watching it with everyone. goodnight

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by KofC on Jan 29, 2010 12:42 AM CST reply actions  

Did a quick calculation on my phone

1309 to be exact.

Well done, everyone, well done.

GO BLACKHAWKS
Witness to Mark Buehrle's perfect game July 23, 2009

by chisoxfan1473 on Jan 29, 2010 12:52 AM CST up reply actions  

are we at more comments than the typical St Louis Game Time thread now? can’t say I spend a lot of time there, though I’m a member

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by KofC on Jan 29, 2010 12:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Looks like it.

The highest I see for the last month (since SCH started going over 1000+ a game) on STL Game Time is 1203 versus…. the Sharks!

Next up: 1400

GO BLACKHAWKS
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by chisoxfan1473 on Jan 29, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

we're approaching Pension Plan Puppets-levels of insanity, then

damn you bandwagon fans!
/just kidding

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by KofC on Jan 29, 2010 3:06 PM CST up reply actions  

We're not approaching Pension Plan Puppets levels of insanity...

We’re creating our own new level of insanity. Or have we already done that?

Fuck knows.

GO BLACKHAWKS
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by chisoxfan1473 on Jan 29, 2010 4:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree...

MVP is Brouwer, I would Like to say Keith played a great game with only one mistake….as for the Sharks…well it would have been over if we scored the fourth goal in the first. Great win overall.

by redtribe14 on Jan 29, 2010 12:43 AM CST reply actions  

and Weapon

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by Johnny Lava on Jan 29, 2010 12:45 AM CST up reply actions  

I wonder if

this just affirms the fact that he can be spectacular when facing a lot of shots. Seems to give him focus.

by VerStig on Jan 29, 2010 12:51 AM CST up reply actions  

behind the net and SCH disputes that

but I wonder if maybe it’s something that’s just specific to particular goaltenders.

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by chiblackhawks on Jan 29, 2010 7:24 AM CST up reply actions  

i didn't see the game

unfortunately i did get to see the game last night, but yahoo sports is say that huet blows and did again last night. did he give it up??

by cheliraz on Jan 29, 2010 9:34 AM CST up reply actions  

No.

Two of the goals were off deflections where he was screened.

Everything he saw, he stopped. It was one of his strongest games of the year.

Just because your friend says she saw me in the club with some other bitches,
sitting in V.I.P,
Smoking, and drinking, and kicking it.

by chrome on Jan 29, 2010 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

my opinion

I wouldn’t say that the Sharks were in fear of being embarrassed like we were in Ottawa. I would say the Sharks are a really talented team (hence being in first place) and we are equally matched as a team. Saying their comeback was due to fear isn’t doing their talent justice. Blackhawks just have a little talent and that’s why we were ahead of them in the league for the last few months. Go Hawks! Detroit Sucks!

I didn't make it strong. I mean, its not comfortable, but its not THAT strong!

by VonShak on Jan 29, 2010 12:46 AM CST reply actions  

i meant...

vancouver, not ottawa, woops. stupid booze, canadien teams are all the same to me

I didn't make it strong. I mean, its not comfortable, but its not THAT strong!

by VonShak on Jan 29, 2010 12:49 AM CST up reply actions  

well, it’s accurate to say we were embarrassed in Ottawa…

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by KofC on Jan 29, 2010 12:50 AM CST up reply actions  

To be fair...

Ottawa was a trap game, and everyone knew it going in.

For that matter, I’m expecting the Hawks to take the ice Saturday listening for the bus starting up.

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by Forklift14 on Jan 29, 2010 8:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Im so fuckin tired off...

hearing the boos for Campbell ever time he touched the puck….its like fuckin old now man…Shark fans need to get over it. ITS GETTING OLD!

by redtribe14 on Jan 29, 2010 12:46 AM CST reply actions  

that's just

like, your opinion, man

All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.

by meeshak on Jan 29, 2010 12:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Shark Fans

Will stop hating Campbell the same time Chicago fans stop booing Huet at home.

wait what?

by pepe126 on Jan 29, 2010 2:23 AM CST up reply actions  

chicago fans actually have

and Huet is still on the team, so what excuse do Sharks fans have? :|

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by chiblackhawks on Jan 29, 2010 7:25 AM CST up reply actions  

medicinal marijuana

affects memory?

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by Johnny Lava on Jan 29, 2010 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

What was more awesome...

…was Detroit fans booing Hossa whenever he touched the puck.

They seemed to be fine with Kopecky being a Blackhawk, however.

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by Forklift14 on Jan 29, 2010 8:02 AM CST up reply actions  

to be fair...

Kopecky was the ugly friend who always seemed to be hanging out with their gf.

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by chiblackhawks on Jan 29, 2010 8:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed...

I don’t understand either one of those. Get the f**k over it. Do we boo Sammy Pahlsson? How about Matt Walker? Handzus? Robidas?

by hoorock89 on Jan 29, 2010 11:36 AM CST up reply actions  

The difference is

we look at those players the way my mom looks at my girlfriens – “thank god he’s your problem now”.

by Scott13 on Jan 29, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

we didn't even really boo Havlat

…until he scored on us. But that was during pre-season, and only half the crowd booed.

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by chiblackhawks on Jan 29, 2010 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Lost in the late euphoria

was that Brouwer’s shot fit in a tea cup in the corner. The screen helped but it was also a perfect shot while on the move.

And his nickname needs to convey this overpowering persistence. Like a freigh train, or a jackhammer, or a steam roller, he just brings wave after wave of hockey.

by Scott13 on Jan 29, 2010 12:47 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

How about the Atomic Train?

All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.

by meeshak on Jan 29, 2010 12:56 AM CST up reply actions  

nice

All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.

by meeshak on Jan 29, 2010 12:57 AM CST up reply actions  

this is funny....too bad it's too cumbersome for a nickname

"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."

by Hack on Jan 29, 2010 1:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Is that short for “The Motherfucking A-Tomic Horse?”

All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.

by meeshak on Jan 29, 2010 1:00 AM CST up reply actions  

What about just "motherfucking"

as in Troy Motherfucking Brouwer. It’s simple and effective, if you’re into the whole brevity thing.

by Scott13 on Jan 29, 2010 1:01 AM CST up reply actions  

What’s wrong with extended and shortened versions?

I’m not a fan of Horse for Brouwer, though. Too close to dat Horsa guy.

Sharkbane? That’s cool, and topical for at least one night.

All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.

by meeshak on Jan 29, 2010 1:03 AM CST up reply actions  

T-MF-B

In times like these...well, you know...there you have it.

by LoneBlackhawkFanInMS on Jan 29, 2010 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

i'm with you..

I really like “horse” or “the horse”

by Killion on Jan 29, 2010 1:06 AM CST up reply actions  

seems too easily confused with Horsa

although I like the Atomic Horse idea.
Personally I was trying to come up with some rhyme playing off of “The Hour of Power” since it would combine his strength and that fact that this kid definitely give you a full game day in and day out, but I got nowhere…
Btw, I think a great nickname for the Kane-Toews-Brouwer line would be “Gum!”

by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 29, 2010 1:28 AM CST up reply actions  

to me..

Hossa is Panda.. so I don’t have that problem..

by Killion on Jan 29, 2010 1:40 AM CST up reply actions  

The Balls...

Troy Brouwer is this.

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by Forklift14 on Jan 29, 2010 8:04 AM CST up reply actions  

I voted for LowenBrouw. Figures perfectly into the alcoholic haze that often hovers over all the threads … and Lowen means lion. A good fit.

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by ChicoMaki on Jan 29, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I love LowenBrouw

If only because we’ll have an awesome old LowenBrau print ad as his avatar.

by hoorock89 on Jan 29, 2010 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

I like this description.

Based off of it, I nominate we call him ‘Storm Surge’.

Just because your friend says she saw me in the club with some other bitches,
sitting in V.I.P,
Smoking, and drinking, and kicking it.

by chrome on Jan 29, 2010 9:04 AM CST up reply actions  

No doubt he already has a nickname..

.. given to him in the locker room. Why don’t we use that one? Sooner or later, you’ll find out what it is, like we heard last night that Hjalmarsson is “Jelly” to his team mates.

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by Gate3anuhHalf on Jan 29, 2010 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

They call him Greyhound...

because of his snout…

"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."

by Byfuglie33 on Jan 29, 2010 8:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Browmeister

1961 is a long time ago.

by HawkJaw on Jan 29, 2010 12:47 AM CST reply actions  

It’s time for the percolator

September 26, 2007 The day a Franchise was reborn.

by Roos-34 on Jan 29, 2010 7:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh. My. God.

You just gave me a flashback to 8th grade. I taped that song off of B96 for one of my epic mixed tapes!

"Another successful interaction with a man!" - Liz Lemon

by Sportsgal on Jan 29, 2010 6:10 PM CST up reply actions  

and...

kudos to Huet for playing a solid game. i am sick of people saying we have a goaltender problem in Chicago. Show a little confidence and Huet will play Stellar!

I didn't make it strong. I mean, its not comfortable, but its not THAT strong!

by VonShak on Jan 29, 2010 12:47 AM CST reply actions  

I would recommend something

But I do not want to be accussed of ill will towards another in a public forum. But if you were to get a cronic case of explosive diaria (I’m not talking about your mouth which we already know you have) I will not loose a wink of sleep. Hell I would just settle if you were never back on this and certainly NO OTHER site “representing” the great fans the Chicago Blackhawks have, cause you ain’t one of them!

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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jan 29, 2010 6:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Aside from

the multiple offside plays and continued stickhandling into traffic, yeah, Versteeg came out of invisibility with some nice intangibles…

Am I the only one afraid that Brouwer might get bumped from the top line when Bolland gets back? I think that top line is an extremely well-greased machine right now.

by VerStig on Jan 29, 2010 12:50 AM CST reply actions  

Yeah

I had originally penciled in Sharp as heading to Line 1, but I think it’s becoming clear that Ladd will move to 3 and Buff to 4. That first line is really something to watch. Every game they seem to have at least 2-3 “power play” shifts 5 on 5.

by illinikc33 on Jan 29, 2010 8:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Does Buff really have enough energy for the 4th line?

I’d rather see him on the 3rd and Ladd on the 4th. Ladd has shifts where he can bounce around and hit everything that moves. Plus it would be some added offense/offence to Eager and Fraser.

by Original Six on Jan 29, 2010 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Interesting wrap up by the "pros" on NHL and ESPN

On ESPN, Matthew Barnaby said that the Sharks are the best team in the conference because they showed so much character in coming back to tie this game. Denis Potvin, on NHL Network, said the Sharks totally blew it right out of the gate and this does not bode well for them in the playoffs.

Personally, I’ll take Sam’s take on this one.

Great game by just about everyone (Barker still looked shaky for stretches out there) but I have one complaint. If the Hawks can simply throw the switch and suddenly dominate like they did in the third period, why can’t they do it the whole game? Sure, the Sharks had something to do with that, but it looked like the Hawks could impose their will at any time. So why not impose it during the second period?

Having said that, it was hilarious to watch the puck control game in the third when the Hawks not only held the puck in but also made line changes while doing it. The commentators were going back and forth between adoration and frustration. It was a beautiful thing to watch.

Great game. Now don’t let down on Saturday.

by Preacher000 on Jan 29, 2010 12:56 AM CST reply actions  

Sure, there are momentum swings in a game

and the Sharks have talent, but it seemed like the Hawks almost took the second period off.

And then they owned most of the third.

by Preacher000 on Jan 29, 2010 1:01 AM CST up reply actions  

SJ also has the best record in the league

that doesn’t happen on accident so give them a little credit.

by Scott13 on Jan 29, 2010 1:05 AM CST up reply actions  

I think what happened in the second

was that they had a 3 goal lead against one of the best scoring teams in the league. I think they decided to start thinking Defense rather than continuing the offensive pressure and risk giving up a break away or something like that. Once San Jose came to within 1 goal they started to realize we have to put this game away.

Drink it up!

by SharpFTW10 on Jan 29, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

they’re cycling the puck to much

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by Johnny Lava on Jan 29, 2010 1:05 AM CST up reply actions  

they’re too lazy to center it

All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.

by meeshak on Jan 29, 2010 1:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Buff was too busy bogarting hits

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by Roos-34 on Jan 29, 2010 7:40 AM CST up reply actions  

if the hawks scored 3 goals every 4 minutes....

they would score 45 goals in a game. It’s not impossible… especially if the other team pulls their goalie at the beginning of the game, which will probably happen at some point. i sure hope i can see that game… it would suck to miss that one.

1961 is a long time ago.

by HawkJaw on Jan 29, 2010 2:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Personally

I thought they looked tired.

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by Trixietrx on Jan 29, 2010 9:09 AM CST up reply actions  

I think it just took time to adjust to the aggressive forecheck

San Jose began to employ.

I hope teams play that way against us the rest of the year. By April, they will be ready.

Just because your friend says she saw me in the club with some other bitches,
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Smoking, and drinking, and kicking it.

by chrome on Jan 29, 2010 9:11 AM CST up reply actions  

You think this road trip...

…isn’t affecting their stamina at all? I thought it was a pretty impressive effort given this is their seventh away from home. I thought the first period showed what they have available – but I still think fatigue had something to do with the rest of the game. They just willed this win.

Trap game in Carolina?

"...about six feet from the moose's butt."

by The Fearless Freep on Jan 29, 2010 9:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Sure, it may have played a part

But SJ also did a hell of a job on the forecheck.

Just because your friend says she saw me in the club with some other bitches,
sitting in V.I.P,
Smoking, and drinking, and kicking it.

by chrome on Jan 29, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions  

agreed

just thinking about how gassed this team may be getting.

"...about six feet from the moose's butt."

by The Fearless Freep on Jan 29, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions  

This was the trip that worried me

California to Carolina, long flight plus the significant time change. Can’t imagine having the team practice today because of that, and with the guys knowing thats they’re going home after the game…

Yeah, trap game

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by Johnny Lava on Jan 29, 2010 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

Carolina game is where i worry about fatigue – mental as much as physical.

Huge game Thurs, followed by long ass plane ride and playing an inferior team.

Just because your friend says she saw me in the club with some other bitches,
sitting in V.I.P,
Smoking, and drinking, and kicking it.

by chrome on Jan 29, 2010 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't necessarily agree

but that’s why it was important to front load the wins on this trip, so even if the team does have a let down now they can still feel good about a successful trip. Carolina would just be gravy at this point.

by Scott13 on Jan 29, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Actually, to be honest with you

I don’t think fatigue played much a part at all in last night’s game.

Vancouver and Edmonton, sure. Long road trip, those teams were ready to make a statement game in front of their fans, Hawks just weren’t capable of matching the effort.

But last night, both teams had circled. The Hawks were up for it. I give the edge in quickness SJ had in the second and beginning of the third to the home ice advantage and the fact that they are really good. They had the forecheck rolling, and we know from this season, its one of the few ways to attack this team successfully.

Just because your friend says she saw me in the club with some other bitches,
sitting in V.I.P,
Smoking, and drinking, and kicking it.

by chrome on Jan 29, 2010 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

During the second it looked like the needle was on ‘E’. Got a second wind in the third.

I love this team! (Can you have a man crush on a whole team?)

by nextgame on Jan 29, 2010 12:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought Q coached this game very well

He responded to the flow of the game and he put together a solid game plan. Throughout the whole night i liked the match ups and even liked when he double shifted hossa and kane a bit.

Top 3 lines were great. 4th line, after playing solid all road trip, was a bit non-existent but i don’t think they got scored on, so that’s good for them.

I also thought, as much as i hate to admit it, barker had a good game. Dunc and seabs seem to put in the extra effort that’s been lacking on the back end lately.

Huet was solid. 2 B.S. goals and 1 legit.

by SLoop on Jan 29, 2010 12:56 AM CST reply actions  

the first goal by Pavelski makes me glad he’s on the US Olympic squad. solid all around player.

by lumberjack7 on Jan 29, 2010 12:58 AM CST reply actions  

Don't Fear the Fin

Fear the Feather………in fact, fear all four feathers

"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."

by Hack on Jan 29, 2010 1:03 AM CST reply actions  

Fear The Fifth Feather as well

They’re clearly too cool to come out and drink with the rest of us.

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It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame.

by McClure on Jan 29, 2010 1:03 AM CST up reply actions  

The word you're looking for...

…is “penisloaves”.

“Penisloaves”.

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by Forklift14 on Jan 29, 2010 8:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Remember...

We hung out with Oleg.

You have no idea the depths to which we will plunge.

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by Forklift14 on Jan 29, 2010 8:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Is that a threat?

www.secondcityhockey.com

It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame.

by McClure on Jan 29, 2010 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

all these names sound like they're trying too hard

i call him t-brow. rolls of the tongue even when i’m several shots of jack into the game.

by Ban on Jan 29, 2010 1:04 AM CST reply actions  

I think they're trying to sneak in some wit.....

"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."

by Hack on Jan 29, 2010 1:06 AM CST up reply actions  

what’s witty about Atomic Horse?

All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.

by meeshak on Jan 29, 2010 1:07 AM CST up reply actions  

i don't appreciate that

i don’t appreciate that…at all…

in all seriousness, i get what they’re trying to do and yeah, “t-brow” sounds simple but it works for me. just throwing it out there.

by Ban on Jan 29, 2010 1:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Here's to good friends

Tonight is kind of special
The beer we’ll pour
Must say something more somehow
So tonight
Let it be lowenbrau

They brought their fuckin' TOYS with 'em!

by ZootSuitZombie on Jan 29, 2010 1:10 AM CST reply actions  

So...

That game was fuckin crazy, loved it. Just hate seeing us blow another big lead. Glad the Hawks won and Pavelski helped my fantasy team at same time haha.

by MaverickNJ on Jan 29, 2010 1:11 AM CST reply actions  

I thought

the same thing if anyone was to score on there team let it be him..ha

by Jrs23 on Jan 29, 2010 8:13 AM CST up reply actions  

The look on Brouwer's face after he scores...

Earlier in the season: Whoa!!! I scored?!?! REALLY?!?!

Now: Whoa!!! I scored?!?! REALLY?!?!

by radguy213 on Jan 29, 2010 1:16 AM CST reply actions  

he's stepped his game up

last season any time he touched the puck i would flinch. seemed like bad things always happened when he was on the ice.

now he’s playing on the top line and doing a damn good job. he’s more confident and his stick handling seems to have reached a whole new level. and aren’t we only paying him like 500k per year? for a top line player, that’s a HUGE deal.

to sum it up, i love t-brow.

by Ban on Jan 29, 2010 1:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

you hit the nail on the head.

He’s exactly the same guy now as he was back then. Nothing flashy or cocky, just pure grit and determination, despite the fact he makes less than what Kane carries in his left pant pocket.

by radguy213 on Jan 29, 2010 1:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Except last night...

…he stuck a couple shots in great spots. Early this year, as I recall, he missed a few 6 × 4s.

He played quite a bit w/ Daydream last year too.

by cliffkoroll on Jan 29, 2010 8:04 AM CST up reply actions  

A series between these two would be tons of fun. Even more so because I can’t see how the Hawks wouldn’t win it.

Good luck with that cocksure regular season swagger – we know where it got us last year.

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by Conico do Mayo Miracle on Jan 29, 2010 1:17 AM CST reply actions  

You have to make the playoffs first...

and this year will make it 3 of the last 12 in the playoffs for the Hawks, right?

I’m used to this kind of stuff from Anaheim and Detroit fans, but I’m 48 years old, and the Hawks haven’t won crap in my lifetime. And the last time the Hawks won the President’s trophy, they wet the bed every bit as badly as the Sharks did last year.

I had Doug Wilson sitting near me on a flight a couple of weeks ago, and I was tempted to ask him which was more inexplicable or inexcusable—the ‘91 Hawks or the ’09 Sharks flop. But I didn’t have the heart.

I like the Hawks chances over anybody in a 7 game series right now. But it’s only January, and this Olympic break is going to stick it to some team. Let’s see who’s got the swagger in April and May.

by bison on Jan 29, 2010 1:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll swagger

any old month. Whether or not it’s justifiable makes no difference to me.

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by ChicoMaki on Jan 29, 2010 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Although I agree that chest-thumping by Hakws fans is way premature and silly...

recent SJ playoff woes are fair game, no?

BTW- ‘91 was a freak. John Casey was out of his mind and carried the North Stars to the finals. The Ducks didn’t get past the 2nd round last year. Still, I’d be interested in Wilson’s take.

by cliffkoroll on Jan 29, 2010 2:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I had to look it up...

Casey was so-so for the first 3 games, stellar for last 3. Refresh my memory (if you can): what game did Graham run over Casey?

I was at Game 5 that year…just miserable.

Of course, SJ’s playoff woes are fair game. The funny thing is, the closest they’ve come is the ‘04 WCF—pre-cap, pre-Thornton. Back then, they focused on player development and staying within their limited budget, when maybe a trade of picks/youth or taking on more salary might have got them to the next level. Now that there’s a cap (when having picks and a few entry-level contracts is key to balancing out the high contracts) they spend right up to it—to the point they have to send players to the minors on off days for cap room.

by bison on Jan 29, 2010 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

we have to justify our our bloviating here? since when?

this is the innerweb … ah, instatube … oh, whatever the hell it is.
We can say what we want, whan we want, no matter how delusional it is.

by krome on Jan 29, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

my favorite comment in the fear the fin recap

after a discussion on booing campbell…….Conico do Mayo here dropped this gem…

When you get down to it, Sharks fans just like to boo (but never our own).

Really? Because I heard the boo birds out on November 25th…….you know the 7-2 game that was pretty much a 7-0 game.

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by Hack on Jan 29, 2010 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't get the booing....

Campbell came to SJ, played his ass off, led the team on extended hot streak, was one of several who came up small in the playoffs, and took the best offer when it was over. He didn’t owe SJ a thing.

There was booing last night at 3-0, and against Detroit earlier this year as well. But Cinco is right, it’s pretty rare. Lots of unconditional love out here. I wonder what a Tortorella-type might have done with this bunch. Probably caused a lot of therapy bills.

by bison on Jan 29, 2010 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Iron Tusk.

Leviathan was a better album than Remission, so the choice is obvious. Might sound too similar to Iron Madden though. Put ’em on the same line!

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by Keith on Jan 29, 2010 2:19 AM CST reply actions  

It's unfortunate we're not trying to come up with a Mastodon nickname for Buff, because his would easily be

Sleeping Giant.

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by mjthor on Jan 29, 2010 6:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Pulling one from a movie

how about “sleeping Ta-Tonka”?

"...about six feet from the moose's butt."

by The Fearless Freep on Jan 29, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

if we're pulling from a movie...

How about “Berserker”?

Comes with a song and everything.

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by Forklift14 on Jan 29, 2010 10:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Fear the fin

Some funny comments over there.
Vlasic and boyle play 50 minutes a night.
Sharks would win a series against the hawks because of how well they roll 4 lines.
Puck daddy has an anti sharks bias.
Not calling out everyone on the site. We have knucklehead comments over here too.

They brought their fuckin' TOYS with 'em!

by ZootSuitZombie on Jan 29, 2010 2:34 AM CST reply actions  

yeah the puckdaddy preview

was great, all the comments were left by SJ fans, seemingly with something stuck up their asses. i thought people from cali were chill. i guess the playoff disappointment the sharks have experienced would make anyone chippy.

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by Illini0509 on Jan 29, 2010 8:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Getting all riled up is silly

this isn’t college football. It’s going to all get settled on the ice this spring.

by Scott13 on Jan 29, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah bunch of nonsense

a lot of “if boyle played we would’ve won!” every team has injuries, hawks missing a few key pieces and didn’t have hossa for the first 1/3 of the season. would love to see an SJ-Hawks Conference Finals.

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by Illini0509 on Jan 29, 2010 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Fear is honest and knows his shit

I don’t think he’s ever said that, be probably meant combined for 50 minutes a night which is totally true.
SJ has never proven that they have what it takes in the playoffs and the Blackhawks are a formittable challenge to be sure. It’s good to have a little back and forth and best of all we both hate Detroit and their arrogant fans. Douchebags!

by 1 and done on Jan 29, 2010 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry Sam, the folks over Yahoo think otherwise...

Hawks need true goalie

The ONLY way I see this argument completely disappearing is if Huet hoists the cup. Otherwise retards sports reporters will still be calling for Huet to be shown the door.

by Delta0ne1 on Jan 29, 2010 5:54 AM CST reply actions  

I kinda see what he's saying

But to me, a 3-1 record in one team’s favor is technically not “equal as equal can be”.

by it'snotsomuchmeasitisroenick on Jan 29, 2010 6:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Perspective...

A 3-1 record on the Hawks docket shows up as 1-1-2 on the Sharks. Or as 6 points of 10 awarded for the Hawks.

by bison on Jan 29, 2010 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Perspective...

There are no points in the playoffs. Just wins and losses.

So that would be a 3-1 lead going in to game 5. Right?

Need to win 1 out of the next three to move on. Who do you think can beat the Hawks 3 in a row this year?

Not the Sharks at this point.

Nabokov may be a better goalie than Huet and Niemi, but he looses to the Hawks 3 out of 4 this year so far.

THAT is the perspective.

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by laaarmer on Jan 29, 2010 2:01 PM CST up reply actions  

True, but...

…arguably the Hawks got the two OT wins because they’re really scary 4 on 4. Won’t get that in the playoffs.

But c’mon, the Sharks must’ve sacrificed their first born for that win in Chicago. The match-up has been pretty one-sided, methinks.

by cliffkoroll on Jan 29, 2010 2:27 PM CST up reply actions  

OT loss in the playoffs

is just a loss.

Remember WCF last year? Fucking Red Wings.

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by laaarmer on Jan 29, 2010 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

but its 5 on 5

The facts support the Hawks as a scary 4 on 4 team, which is regular season OT.

If playoff OT is 4 on 4, I retract my comment. Otherwise, this means the Hawks have less of an edge in playoff OT than during the season.

by cliffkoroll on Jan 29, 2010 2:44 PM CST up reply actions  

more perspective

the one game the sharks actually won in regulation, the shot differential was +33 in the hawks favor. A win is a win, but that can’t help you sleep at night, can it?

I’m not trying to go out of my way to arrogant, but if you’re going to roll up here and try and put things in perspective, you’re gonna hear about it.

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by Hack on Jan 29, 2010 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Just pointing out...

another way of looking at it. As I’ve mentioned elsewhere in this thread, as of now it’s hard to see anyone who can beat the Hawks in a 7 game series.

We’ve seen enough to of the Sharks core in prior years to predict that come playoffs time, something will go wrong. We haven’t seen enough of the Hawks core to tell…yet. Fair enough?

by bison on Jan 29, 2010 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Small sample size...

…but a young team with meh goaltending won two series last year.

by cliffkoroll on Jan 29, 2010 2:48 PM CST up reply actions  

dumb ass article

Golly gosh, with the “fatal flaws” these two (best in the nhl) teams have, I don’t know how they’ll ever win another game. Clearly there are sooooo many better teams in the nhl with flawless rosters.

by SLoop on Jan 29, 2010 8:16 AM CST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

dumb ass article

Golly gosh, with the “fatal flaws” these two (best in the nhl) teams have, I don’t know how they’ll ever win another game. Clearly there are sooooo many better teams in the nhl with flawless rosters.

by SLoop on Jan 29, 2010 8:16 AM CST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Holy Fuck

Sooooo much SJ homerism in the comments, makes me think of the gif of the guy smashing his head into his keyboard. Good article though.

wait what?

by pepe126 on Jan 29, 2010 2:04 PM CST up reply actions  

sharks fans would never admit it…but they blow in the playoffs because they are a one line team and because they wear their goaltender out during the regular season.
they have good role players, just not enough…i like pavelski and malhotra…but they do not provide a deep playoff worthy amount of scoring depth. Nabokov will probably start 70 games for them this year. Playoffs require scoring depth…duh, these dudes don’t get it…book it, they’ll get bounced by detroit in 5 games this april.

by KWclevpark on Jan 29, 2010 6:59 AM CST reply actions  

Huet carried the team

…..his second period performance was outstanding !!!

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by ccm on Jan 29, 2010 7:17 AM CST reply actions  

yep

I’ll take more of that, please.

by Skags on Jan 29, 2010 7:59 AM CST up reply actions  

It was like a mirror image of the Calgary game early this year...

….complete and utter early domination. Big lead but 50+ minutes left. Very tricky situation for any team.

Ya gotta remember the Sharks are like the Hawks. They beat almost everybody. To lose 3 of 4 and cough up 4 points in your own building against the Hawks- just one more monkey on this team’s back. Muahahahah.

What are the Hawks 4 on 4 stats? Is it time to start creatng offsetting penalties, a la the 80s Oilers?

by cliffkoroll on Jan 29, 2010 7:59 AM CST reply actions  

4-on-4

They have 10G for, 2G against.

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by Forklift14 on Jan 29, 2010 8:10 AM CST up reply actions  

The Blackhawks and Sharks are the two best team in the West by a wide margin

San Jose will learn from previous playoff flameouts. It would be an upset not to see these two teams pitted against one another in the Western Conference finals.

The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.

by BLou on Jan 29, 2010 8:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Personally

I’d love to see Hawks v. Calgary in WCF

:)

by illinikc33 on Jan 29, 2010 9:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Calgary?

That team has quit on their coach. They’ll be teeing off in early April.

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by Forklift14 on Jan 29, 2010 9:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Nucks

Burish would be happy

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by Johnny Lava on Jan 29, 2010 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

If we see Cal-Gary at all

It will be in the first round. There’s a team that has zero depth after their 1st line and they’ll sneak into the playoffs if at all.

by hoorock89 on Jan 29, 2010 11:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Last year.......

I said the same thing to some obnoxious Penguin fans sitting near by when they beat us here. (They were out of playoff position at the time.) We all know what happened after that.
I’m just sayin’, you never know.

by nextgame on Jan 29, 2010 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Huet

Maybe it is my imagination, but I do think Huet flourishes in those games where he is fire and faces lots of hard shots. Which is a good thing.

Huet can indeed get squirrely in the net. But he is more than capable of being a Stanley Cup goalie on a team with a strong blue line focus.

The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.

by BLou on Jan 29, 2010 8:20 AM CST reply actions  

I think we have a winner

Perfect AND timely, though I hope no grave-rolling will happen. (RIP JD Salinger)

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by chiblackhawks on Jan 29, 2010 8:24 AM CST up reply actions  

unless i'm missing something

you mean joseph heller

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by Illini0509 on Jan 29, 2010 8:31 AM CST up reply actions  

fml

too early, still hungover

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by chiblackhawks on Jan 29, 2010 8:32 AM CST up reply actions  

I think so

but they’re both dead now, so close enough. Right?

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by TenMinuteMisconduct on Jan 29, 2010 8:33 AM CST up reply actions  

You got my nomination

I had LowenBrouw … Catch-22 is the easily the best yet.

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by ChicoMaki on Jan 29, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

For some reason, Megatron has always come to mind, but I digs the Catch-22.

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by AirTrafficAJ on Jan 29, 2010 5:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Kaner.... Tazer...

Brouwerer. That’s what I’ve always gone with.

by Lost In NC on Jan 29, 2010 8:39 AM CST reply actions  

Huet: Game of the Year.
First time all year I really believed he was going to make the Save on every shot. just solid.

I vote Troy Motherfucking Brouwer.

but with 112 in the comments section, who the fuck is gonna read this anyway

by WirtzGMnomore on Jan 29, 2010 8:44 AM CST reply actions  

“Hey, a game where we can’t possibly have anyone complain about Huet!”

you speak too soon.

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Matt Cooke is a turd burglar. He burgles ALL the turds.

by G8K33P3R on Jan 29, 2010 8:46 AM CST reply actions  

Like my kids...

…you apparently take a broad view of the definition of the word “need”.

by cliffkoroll on Jan 29, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

that wasn’t my quote, that’s the title of the article.

Matt Cooke is a turd burglar. He burgles ALL the turds.

by G8K33P3R on Jan 29, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions  

don't shoot the messenger

Matt Cooke is a turd burglar. He burgles ALL the turds.

by G8K33P3R on Jan 29, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

oops...

…not clear from your comment.

by cliffkoroll on Jan 29, 2010 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

I know. I put the title and the link under it, but the link didn’t post. damn interweb making me look bad.

Matt Cooke is a turd burglar. He burgles ALL the turds.

by G8K33P3R on Jan 29, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Lowen Brouw is where it's at

Got a really good laugh from that this morning. What a game. My gf sat with me and watched that entire thing and even commented she can see why I’m obsessed with hockey after it. Celebratory BJ to cap off the night..all in all A+

by Northside_Dan on Jan 29, 2010 8:46 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

wow.....did that just happen
Celebratory BJ to cap off the night..

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by Hack on Jan 29, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions  

she was excited about the game! Made her a hockey fan last night. It would have been rude of me to deny that.

by Northside_Dan on Jan 29, 2010 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

hp pavillion center organ

Great game last night! And is it just me…or does anyone else find the organ at the shark tank to be extrememly annoying and cheezy sounding? It doesn’t even sound like a real organ…it sounds more like a recording that they play every other face off. Yep, the SAME damn tune for every other face off.

by bladesofsteel on Jan 29, 2010 8:47 AM CST reply actions  

+1

I made the comment multiple times watching that game that if I lived in San Jose I wouldn’t like the Sharks. Everything just screamed cheesy about the music. Jaws theme, the sound they played after announcing goals and assists, etc. Just irritating.

by Northside_Dan on Jan 29, 2010 8:53 AM CST up reply actions  

Ugh! The "bang-bang" after announcing the goals and assists

is the WORST! It must be a california thing though because, if I’m not mistaken, the Kings and Ducks have the same damn thing.

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by The Fearless Freep on Jan 29, 2010 9:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I fucking

HATE that. But not as much as the Vancouver “WOOOOOO.” That makes me want to punch puppies

by illinikc33 on Jan 29, 2010 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Me and the lady both agree, that organ drives me up a wall; it sounds like a synthesizer. I found this on youtube this morning, even more annoying.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8Fzn9H7HyI

by pjanisch on Jan 29, 2010 8:58 AM CST reply actions  

Double Deuce

The Urban Diction definies Double Deuce as “flipping someone off with two hands.”
Example: The teacher gave Bill an F on his paper, so he gave the teacher the Double Deuce.


Fuck U Scum!

by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 29, 2010 8:59 AM CST reply actions  

er, dictionary… defines…. english…

by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 29, 2010 9:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Double Deuce...

…also one in the bowl, and one upper decker.

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by Forklift14 on Jan 29, 2010 9:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Is he a good read?

i.e. should this nickname be shunned or “added to the bowl” because he used it too?

He also calls Huet “The Frenchman”. That’s pretty lame. I prefer to call Huet “The Tickler”.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 29, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

About McKeons article

I’d be worried if he said the Hawks are the class of NHL because he’s usually wrong. I’ll give the Hawks a pass for fatigue in the middle of the game in a long road trip with adversity but much credit for deciding after the tie and timeout that they were going to win that game and then showing that no one could stop them. As for Brouwers nickname how about shortening the Iron tusk to just Tusk,still has the Mastadon feel and gives him a proper amount of toughness.

by activestick on Jan 29, 2010 9:06 AM CST reply actions  

Mckeon

is a dickhead. he is the mariotti of hockey writers. sensational bullshit.

as for “Tusk”, I would never want a blackhawk to be confused with a fleetwood fucking mac song. i am, however, all for “iron tusk”. that rules. i also think “crusher destroyer” rolls off the tounge and fits brouw very well.

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by west_fulton on Jan 29, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Timeout

I wonder what would have happened if Q didn’t call that timeout????

by Beltway Hawks on Jan 29, 2010 9:10 AM CST reply actions  

That seems like unecessary confidence

It’s not like the Hawks were being dominated for the 30 min before the timeout

by Beltway Hawks on Jan 29, 2010 9:13 AM CST up reply actions  

actually it did change the momentum

just like the sharks killing off that PP in the 1st killed our mo

by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 29, 2010 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

sarcasm

learn it, or it’ll be a long rough ride round these parts

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by Roos-34 on Jan 29, 2010 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

SeaBrook?

I thought it was just me, but what’s up with Seabrook ? Made a roadtrip to Joe Louis two weeks ago (very impressive 25-30% Hawks fans in attendance) and Seabrook should have had an orange traffic cone strapped to his helmet because he was getting spun like a top.. and I’ve seen nothing in the games since that’s been any better.. if it wasn’t for Keith.. oh my god! You’re right.. the only chance we have against Canada.. if Seabrook sees lots of ice time!

by Remember#3 on Jan 29, 2010 9:57 AM CST reply actions  

hmm

Takes a big man to admit he goggled that.

by Northside_Dan on Jan 29, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

"Big man" would be the guy in the photo

and “goggles” is what I wish I had when that image popped up

Yeah, I’d hate to have to explain to my wife some of the shit that autofills on my google search bar. “Honey, I can explain! It’s all sports related!”

by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 29, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Deleting cookies and browsing history is a wonderful thing. I’ve had some interesting convo’s with the misses about that topic as well

by Northside_Dan on Jan 29, 2010 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

If the past pre-tells what your future holds?...

then the Sharks are in for another playoff disappointment. How in the world could the Sharks sleepwalk through the first 10 minutes in a game of importance? And at the end of the day it was Pavelski that got the Sharks back in it which, as usual, seems to be the case with San Jose. When the chips are down it’s Pavelski, Clowe, and Blake that respond not Thornton and Marleau.

Anyone else totally surprised you couldn’t find Heatley with a roadmap after Ladd buried him?

Why do you think Sens’ fans are happy with the outcome of that trade? It’s been proven all season long that Michalek is a better all-around player than Heatley. Sure he has only 18 goals to Heatley’s 30 but at least he plays both ends of the rink and is more than willing to engage physically as he plays a lot like Hossa.

As for Thronton and Marleau, why Steve Yzerman picked these 2 over Ryan Smyth and Shane Doan is anybody’s guess. At the end of the day the whole country of Canada will be wondering the same when these 2 decide to go into hibernation mode once the medal rounds commence. They’ll pile up the points against Norway and Switzerland but will be nowhere to be found against the U.S., Sweden, and Russia.

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by hawks61 on Jan 29, 2010 10:04 AM CST reply actions  

and long winded

September 26, 2007 The day a Franchise was reborn.

by Roos-34 on Jan 29, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

No

Some might be certifiable though

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by Novy on Jan 29, 2010 2:05 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I know I’m crazy.

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by hawks61 on Jan 29, 2010 10:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Michalek? Seriously?

Michalek is a lousy .44 PPG in the playoffs. He’s a soft, middling underachiever making way too much $$$ for his production.

Heatley averages over a point per game in the playoffs; I’ll take my chances with him. Ottawa screwed up by not getting Ehrhoff instead or in addition to Cheechoo; he was there for the taking all summer.

by bison on Jan 29, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

As far as Michalek

I’m not talking about his past playoff disappointments I’m just talking about this year and how he’s really fit in well with that team. His 2-way play fits better with, not-so-2-way, Spezza and that has led to a better overall line combination with Alfredsson on the right.

Heatley fits in perfectly with the Sharks because Marleau and Thornton are very good 2-way players as well so his lackluster defensive play doesn’t hurt the Sharks. Make no mistake Dany Heatley is one excellent sniper, but considering the circumstances Ottawa did well. San Jose won this trade but not as overwhelming as people once thought once it became official.

As far as Ehrhoff it was smart not to get him because of the play of Eriksson, Carkner, and Picard. Not to mention (so I’ve been told) that they have some cap issues (suprise) coming up with having to re-sign Volchenkov before July 1st.

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by hawks61 on Jan 29, 2010 10:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Brouwer should be

Low Brow.

He’s like a cheaper, dirtier, more physical but slightly less talented version of Kane.

BOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!

by SharpKane on Jan 29, 2010 10:04 AM CST reply actions  

Much less talented

version of Kane. In fact, the vast majority of players in this league are must less talented than Kane. I’ve said this 1000 times, but he literally is like a video game player on the ice the way he handles the puck.

by illinikc33 on Jan 29, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

I know...

slightly less talented version just sounded better.

BOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!

by SharpKane on Jan 29, 2010 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

For those who are statistical geeks like myself

Here is a list of the top defensive defencemen in the NHL. Not suprising Duncan Keith is #2 on this list.

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by hawks61 on Jan 29, 2010 10:13 AM CST reply actions  

And Seabs at 11.

Good article. Mirtle usually does some pretty damn good work.

by Delta0ne1 on Jan 29, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Nice thanks for sharing

Excerpt:


Keith, meanwhile, is probably the leading contender for the Norris after the season he’s had (second in scoring among defencemen and a plus-21).

Not to sound like Esquire, but when I suggested earlier this year that Dunc was “in the discussion” of top-3 d-men, I got a pat on the head, a warm glass of milk, and sent to bed early by the cognoscenti here.

by cliffkoroll on Jan 29, 2010 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Man...

…do I sound like a whiny bitch here! Oh well, too late to retract.

by cliffkoroll on Jan 29, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

3 point games

Before I really had no opinion either way. Looking at the standings now, I’m pissed and think the idea is crap.

2 more wins than SJ yet we’re behind them because they mangaged to not lose (more games mind you) until OT or Shootout.

“Good job on winning more games kids, but they get the higher seed.” I call bullshit.

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by Johnny Lava on Jan 29, 2010 10:56 AM CST reply actions  

I've said this from the start

it should have been a 3/0 or 2/1 split of points based upon whether you win in regulation or OT.

Or else it should have gone to a 5 point per game system – 5/0 regulation, 4/1 OT and 3/2 shoot out.

by krome on Jan 29, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

recently some turd (i forget who) proposed the idea of awarding 1.5 points for an OT win and .5 points for an OT loss. 3-point game makes so much more sense

by DemonHawk on Jan 29, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

In the end

the only math that matters is who wins 4 consecutive best-of-seven series.

by Scott13 on Jan 29, 2010 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Anyone want to run the numbers...

…to see if this would reshuffle the deck at all? My gut says no or minimally.

by cliffkoroll on Jan 29, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

it ought to be minimal

but I just don’t like the idea of games not all being worththe same number of total points – it messes up figuring out the game of “’what does team x have to do to make the 8th spot” in the conference.

by krome on Jan 29, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

if the system is 3pts for regulation wins, 2pts for OT wins, 1pt for OT losses?

Sharks will lead the league with 108pts, Chicago and Washington will be tied at 2nd with 105. Buffalo will be 5th instead of 6th, and Vancouver will be 6th instead of 5th.

Glaring differences: Rangers climb up from 22 to 16, Flyers from 23 to 17.

And that’s really the biggest change that I see.

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by chiblackhawks on Jan 29, 2010 12:38 PM CST up reply actions  

Thank you...

…and your internet/statistical wizardry.

by cliffkoroll on Jan 29, 2010 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Still a flawed system then.

only because I’m hung up on the # of wins. I have a big problem with a team having fewer wins seeded higher.

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The only Cup we can win is this years

by Johnny Lava on Jan 29, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions  

i like how you say all the things I think

in response, but am too lazy to actually complete myself.

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by chrome on Jan 29, 2010 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

how about

no points awarded for regulation tie (0/0), 2/0 for OT, and 2/1 for shootout?
i was pissed that the Hawks only got 1 more piont than SJ after last night.

by chefofthefuture on Jan 29, 2010 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

doh

may be same suggestion as chiblackhawks. sorry…

by chefofthefuture on Jan 29, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

uh

that’s no points for a regulation tie. of course 2 points for a regulation win. didn’t mention that earlier because it was assumed (maybe incorrectly) a regulation win remains unchanged at 2/0.

by chefofthefuture on Jan 29, 2010 3:35 PM CST up reply actions  

The reason you get a point for a regulation tie

is because if you incentivize teams to play boring, defensive hockey to get a point at the end of overtime, you get boring, defensive hockey in overtime, which is what every overtime was before the rule change.

by Scott13 on Jan 29, 2010 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

which - of course - is why the only real solution there is the 5 point per game system

Reg 5 / 0
OT 4 / 1
Shoot out 3 / 2

Each stage has a significant incentive to win without going to the next stage.

by krome on Jan 29, 2010 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

How about this?

2 pts.- for a regulation and overtime win.
1 pt. – for a shootout win.
0 pts.- for the loser.

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by hawks61 on Jan 29, 2010 10:40 PM CST up reply actions  

From the Rink

This the standings were changed to the formula above.

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by hawks61 on Jan 29, 2010 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

OT wins

should count as regulation wins. Shootout wins should not be credited with as many points as a regulation win.

"...about six feet from the moose's butt."

by The Fearless Freep on Jan 29, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Agree completely

I have always thought this myself. (Glad to see I’m not the only one who thinks this way. Not sure what that says about you OR me!) The OT period is an extension of the game, and the winner should get 2 pts. and the loser 0. Only split points if it goes to the shoot out.

by nextgame on Jan 29, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

If they got one each - the shoot out was a waste of time

if it is a 2/1 split, you still have shoot out games being wirth more (total) points than non-shoot out games.

by krome on Jan 29, 2010 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

Just didn’t explain myself clearly. 1 pt. each at end of OT if still tied. 1extra pt. to winner of shoot out.
Same basic concept as current set up except OT winner gets 2 pts. for winning the game, loser gets zip.
One team still gets 2 pts. no matter what.
If I was running the league I’d scrap the shoot out, keep the OT as is, but award 2 pts. to the winner if there is one. 1 pt. each for a tie at end of OT. But I know that’s not going to happen. The shoot out is too TV friendly.
I’m just a bit old fashioned.

by nextgame on Jan 29, 2010 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Did everyone see...

Ryan Miller’s fucking bad ass Olympic goalie mask? I immediately started singing “America! Fuck yeah!”

"Another successful interaction with a man!" - Liz Lemon

by Sportsgal on Jan 29, 2010 10:56 AM CST reply actions  

I believe...

It goes something like this.

“So lick my butt and suck on my balls!”

"Another successful interaction with a man!" - Liz Lemon

by Sportsgal on Jan 29, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Beautiful

fuckin beautiful.

"...about six feet from the moose's butt."

by The Fearless Freep on Jan 29, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

that is all sorts of awesome

speaking of the olympics….how come the hawk PR department doesn’t have a picture of all of the Blackhawks olympians in their respective olympic jerseys (like that Vancouver one we saw)? Maybe after the road trip.

Anybody want to guess where they’ll take the picture at?

"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."

by Hack on Jan 29, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Belfour

probably ruined all kinds of inspirations for US Olympic goalie masks, since nobody else can really wear the Eagle ever again. That said, I like Miller’s a lot.

"Eighty-five percent of the fuckin' world's working. The other fifteen come out here." - Lee Elia

by TenMinuteMisconduct on Jan 29, 2010 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

That's ridiculously awesome.

Nabokov’s is pretty sweet, too.
And I’m glad no one’s wearing this one that was linked in the article.

by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Jan 29, 2010 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Catch-22

Epic win

Second City Hockey

by Battery on Jan 29, 2010 11:06 AM CST reply actions  

Brouwer’s nickname has to Bowser. I yelled “Bowser with his second!” without even thinking. Props to the folks who came up with that name a few threads ago.

by wlittle on Jan 29, 2010 11:12 AM CST reply actions  

Brouwer's nickname

I like bowser and lowenbrouwer but isin’t his nickname the “truck”?!

by toews on Jan 29, 2010 11:24 AM CST reply actions  

I think Catch-22

Is too hokey. I base this off of the “NICKNAME HERE!!!!” posts we get after each goal. CATCH-22!!!! just sounds hokey. I reiterate, I enjoy BROWER!!!!!, but I can live with BOWSER!!!!! simply because it soundslike BROWER!!!!

Catch my drift?

by illinikc33 on Jan 29, 2010 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Bowser is that doofus from Sha Na Na

Not a good hockey nick name

“The Horse”

"All questions must be submitted in writing"

by laaarmer on Jan 29, 2010 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

You know

a horse named Whirlaway won the triple crown?

Brouwer = Whirlaway?

"All questions must be submitted in writing"

by laaarmer on Jan 29, 2010 11:51 AM CST up reply actions  

War Admiral

"All questions must be submitted in writing"

by laaarmer on Jan 29, 2010 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

did you mean it sounds HOCKEY

you’re absolutely right

Second City Hockey

by Battery on Jan 29, 2010 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Who can beat a team 4 out of 7

that will have 7 players with 20 goals or more, 2 D men +30, and goalies that limit opposing teams to 2-3 goals per game?

Obviously not San Jose

"All questions must be submitted in writing"

by laaarmer on Jan 29, 2010 11:44 AM CST reply actions  

I really can't think of any

this team is a real example of the sum being greater than the parts

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The only Cup we can win is this years

by Johnny Lava on Jan 29, 2010 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

That would be

the same point I made on a recent post. Thanks for backing me up!

"Eighty-five percent of the fuckin' world's working. The other fifteen come out here." - Lee Elia

by TenMinuteMisconduct on Jan 29, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

and thank you for backing my backing

SCH Resident Idiot
The only Cup we can win is this years

by Johnny Lava on Jan 29, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Sharks v Blackhawks observations

So I had to chime in as a lifelong Sharks fan (20 years anyway). I can feel your pain Chicago (as if the Cubs weren’t reason enough to jump off the bridge) 1961 is a long, long time. I also believe you are the better team right now, and not because you’re more talented, but because you’re either more confident or less scared to do what it takes to pull out the big win. I DO NOT believe that Huet is a Stanley Cup winning goal tender, we will see. Hossa was a great addition, but I think you guys might need a little more punch/scoring at times. There is also the Hossa curse to consider. Went from Pittsburgh (lost to Detroit) to Detroit (lost to Pittsburgh) to you.
Lastly, San Jose’s lack of D was exposed last night, Dan Boyle’s injury not withstanding, and so I think Doug Wilson will have to go out and pick up another tough D man to handle the impressive forecheck you guys possess. I’d love to see these two teams meet in the Conference Finals. May the team who wants it more win.

by 1 and done on Jan 29, 2010 12:12 PM CST reply actions  

Matt Walker

"All questions must be submitted in writing"

by laaarmer on Jan 29, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I somewhat agree on those points

but I still don’t understand how people can judge who IS a Stanley Cup goaltender. Did anybody really think that Fleury and Osgood were SC goaltenders when they won? You won’t convince me that they were the reasons they won the Cup in their respective years. Huet and Niemi may not be ideal, but I’m just not sold on the what appears to be fashionable theory that the Hawks do not have SC quality goaltending, because I don’t see how that is defined, with the exception of a Brodeur.

Also, do you REALLY think that the so-called “Hossa Curse” really plays into the Hawks ability to perform in the playoffs? I mean, if that truly is one of your analysis points, then I also suppose you think the Cubs haven’t won a WS since god knows when because of a goat – and that makes me question your logic. The fact is, I think most Hawk fans agree that they would rather take their chances on Hossa and his curse versus not acquiring him at all last year.

SJ has a super talented team, and I don’t buy into the SJ playoff curse anymore than the Hossa curse. I also know that when the playoffs roll around, ANYTHING can happen – even in a seven game series. Bottom line is, neither team had better pound their chests come April and say they deserve to meet eachother in the WCF because of what they accomplished during the regular season. They’ll have to earn every win they get.

"...about six feet from the moose's butt."

by The Fearless Freep on Jan 29, 2010 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

"Curses" are BS.

But teams do have personalities, sometimes leading to wilting under pressure. Lately, the Sharks have seriously underperformed in the post season.

by krome on Jan 29, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Hossa curse?

Yes the supernatural is an obvious factor in the success of the Hawks.

"All very successful commanders are prima donnas and must be so treated." George S. Patton

by Hawkswordofdeath on Jan 29, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Also

who is he going to lose to this time? Anything would break the symmetry!

by VerStig on Jan 29, 2010 11:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Please watch! Rare Brent Sopel college hockey highlights

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1890462

"All very successful commanders are prima donnas and must be so treated." George S. Patton

by Hawkswordofdeath on Jan 29, 2010 12:14 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Cam Janssen fights at the end

"All very successful commanders are prima donnas and must be so treated." George S. Patton

by Hawkswordofdeath on Jan 29, 2010 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

no no

That’s not sopel, it’s the entire Scum squad

Second City Hockey

by Battery on Jan 29, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

hmm, it just occured to me.

Sopel is blowing off Soupy’s poker tourney….

hmmmm

Second City Hockey

by Battery on Jan 29, 2010 12:35 PM CST up reply actions  

I do not like to point out what I perceive to be flaws on the Hawks, but I swear there is some very obvious similarities between the skating styles of a communist bear and Sopel

How did the USSR fail!?

"All very successful commanders are prima donnas and must be so treated." George S. Patton

by Hawkswordofdeath on Jan 29, 2010 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

or "are some"

grammar fail

"All very successful commanders are prima donnas and must be so treated." George S. Patton

by Hawkswordofdeath on Jan 29, 2010 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

haha
Is he a bear in a human costume?

Awesome. Rec’d, sir. I compare his posture to Quasimoto, but this works too.

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"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon

by HawkVision on Jan 29, 2010 1:26 PM CST up reply actions  

233 posts

And nobody gave props for the Ride the Lightning reference in the title? Metallica’s best album, boys….fine work.

by hoorock89 on Jan 29, 2010 12:27 PM CST reply actions  

kill em all

I’m a puriest, plus it was gonna be called “fuck em all”

Second City Hockey

by Battery on Jan 29, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Matt Cooke is a turd burglar. He burgles ALL the turds.

by G8K33P3R on Jan 29, 2010 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Hossa is not "The Mule"

That is Franzen’s nickname. No one on the Hawks should have the same nickname as Franzen.

Hossa is “Fucking Hossa”

"All questions must be submitted in writing"

by laaarmer on Jan 29, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

D'oh! Franzen = Mule!

gahhh! (…..Brouwer could still be the Burro though….)

by EvilClown on Jan 29, 2010 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Also

Mule=Ass=Asshat that plays for Detroit.

wait what?

by pepe126 on Jan 29, 2010 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

And Hossa’s nickname should just be the Hoss. Pronounced similar to his name, you know, with the “sa”.

The Höss.

by wlittle on Jan 29, 2010 1:22 PM CST reply actions  

I used to know this guy in high school

who, when he was feeling especially good about himself, would say “They call me horse (pronounced Höss) – the pussy filla”.

While saying that, he would bring both his hands up and down on his thighs, giving the visual effect of him penetrating an invisible woman.

I’ve always thought that was a great way to express joy.

Just because your friend says she saw me in the club with some other bitches,
sitting in V.I.P,
Smoking, and drinking, and kicking it.

by chrome on Jan 29, 2010 1:27 PM CST reply actions  

studies have shown...

…an inverse correlation between the frequency of times high school guys (or any guys) make silly gestures about “satisfying” women and the frequency of actual opportunities to satisfy women.

well, in a just universe, they would

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by KofC on Jan 29, 2010 3:04 PM CST up reply actions  

If you guys havn't seen on the Shark's site

An individual here has made complete ass of themselves on the Sharks site, in return has pretty much given the apperance that allot of us are like this person which is shitty.

I generally would not do this, but I think what was said, did not just cross, but leaped a line of ediquite and respect.

If you do not like me bringing it up here sorry, but even I have standards of sportsmanship and just general respect for people.

If it works don't go and F*** it up!
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jan 29, 2010 3:18 PM CST reply actions  

sigh.

He was banned from Nucks Misconduct too, and nearly banned here as well. I’m half-convinced he’s just trying to reach some sort of asshattiest asshat record.

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by chiblackhawks on Jan 29, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Golf claps

to Dirt for running around cleaning up after the guy’s mess.

I hear the “cocky blowhard” criticism of Chicago fans enough to suspect there is at least a grain of truth in it.

It’s painful to read the Sharks thread and see the face this one Chicago fan is showing the world.

by cliffkoroll on Jan 29, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

let's just stop saying "he"........redtribe14 is unbearable

Not only does he inject his juvenille commentary into others’ game threads and get banned, but as has been said, he represents the fanbase as poorly as it can possibly be represented.

The worst part is that his avatar is the indianhead. People don’t even have to click on his profile to see what team he roots for. People on other blogs see the indianhead and associate it with this type of behavior and then they generalize a reaction toward our whole fanbase.

He continues to misrepresent us, the team, and the greatest logo in sports. Good job bud.

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by Hack on Jan 29, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

..................Troy Brouwer...............

I think his "movie star’ name can hang on it’s own….Like try Troy Mc Clure from the Simpsons
Remember crazy Savard sending him down and tellin the media " when he learns how to skate he can come back"

Rock On….. Troy…..Rock On

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by ccm on Jan 29, 2010 3:54 PM CST reply actions  

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