Wait... Scoring 5 Goals Isn't An Automatic Two Points? Hawks 5 - Wild 5, Nolan Somehow With The Winner
Ain't that some shit? I was all ready to write a quick re-cap of how awesome the Blackhawks were again and then go out and continue celebrating the evening. Instead, I'm almost at a loss as for what to write. Sometimes a team just completely blows a game, and this was one of them. Now I guess we know how it feels to be a Flames fan... almost
When this team is up by 5 and seemingly dominating a team, it's way too easy to get cocky - that may be exactly what we experienced tonight. The Blackhawks have still kept up an amazing streak of 8 games in a row where they've scored 4 or more goals, Kane extended his point streak to 11 games, the power play might officially no longer be clown shoes with goals in 9 in a row... yet they end up with only 1 point and Owen Nolan wins the game in yet another shootout that goes way past the initial 3 rounds.
I'm not going to bother recapping every goal and highlight for the game because that would simply take way too long. And I'm guessing you've got better things to do this weekend (unless you're mjthor... we all know all you do is comment on these stories). Lets just hope the Hawks learn their lessons and remember it's important to play all 3 periods. I know they've experience some success when they come out slow in the first, but forgetting to play in the 3rd doesn't give you much time to recover. On to the...
Quick Thoughts:
- First it was Madden, then it was Buff pulling out a spin-o-rama to take a good shot or pass.. this should have been our first sign that this team was getting way too full of themselves.
- Is it possible that John Madden actually passed the puck to VERSTEEG! off of Backstrom's pads? Because it sure as hell looked like it on that goal
- In the second, Huet way over-committed to a play and was caught absolutely no where near his crease in what should have been an easy goal for the Wild. It looked like he just gave up on the play expecting another goal... Hammer had other ideas. Probably the best save of the game.
- Horsa might be worthy of an exclamation point of his own...
- Minnesota was credited with 46 hits... I need to check the records but this might be the most against the Hawks all year. And yet another reason this stat is full of shit (but fun to talk about).
- Every time we think we're done with them, the Huet haters get another reason to run their mouths (or in this case, fingers). This one can't be blamed on him but I'm sure that won't stop them from trying.
- So the shootout goes into tomorrow, but for some reason the Wild didn't give Havlat a chance against his former team? There is probably a lot to read into this but I'll leave that for the comments. I have no idea why they wouldn't give someone with his skill a chance over players like Clutterbuck, Nolan or Brodziak. JHC must have been dinged up at some point in this game because he's shown himself to be notoriously thin-skinned and I can't imagine this would go over well with him. Keep an eye on his unsurprisingly silent Twitter account.
Player of the Game:
This is a first but... we're giving it to Eddie-O.

I believe an assist goes to the equipment crew, because they informed Eddie that after the goals had gone in order, Sharp, Toews, VERSTEEG!, Brouwer, Hossa... that was also each players 15th, 14th, 13th, 12th and 11th goal on the season so far. These odd little numbers don't mean anything but they're really fun for anyone into numbers and coincidences.. That's without a doubt the coolest thing to happen in this game... is it possible this has ever happened before in NHL history?
Oh well... Wait for tomorrow
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If I were to post a review of this game
I would have just said:
First two periods were good, but the third ruined it all. Fuck this shit, let’s just beat the Quacks, er, I mean, Ducks tomorrow.
Excellent recap, though. And it’s about time Eddie O got his due, hah.
GO BLACKHAWKS
Witness to Mark Buehrle's perfect game July 23, 2009
by chisoxfan1473 on Jan 9, 2010 10:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well said
I was laughing too at Buff pulling a spin o ramma and Foley and Edzo were laughing all the way until the Wild hit the third goal, then it wasn’t funny anymore. I appreciate them continuing with a strong forecheck and still trying to score at 5-1, but at some point I kind of expected to see a shutdown defense that never came.
by NKLHD on Jan 9, 2010 10:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yikes
I was so warm and fuzzy about the Hawks all day today. They just laid an egg.
I feel like I just nailed a fat chick and the condom broke.
by Toe Blake on Jan 9, 2010 10:38 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Totally agreed
I hereby declare that post green.
GO BLACKHAWKS
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by chisoxfan1473 on Jan 10, 2010 1:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As Pat said, this might be the best thing that ever happened to the Hawks
Losing a game like this is a wakeup call and a point of development for a young team. This Blackhawks team is still very new to the concept of winning and being among the elite teams in the NHL.
They will be a better hockey club for this Minnesota experience. That I believe. Also, give Minnesota credit for never giving up. That team doesn’t have the greatest talent in the world, but I am deeply impressed on how hard they constantly work their asses off on the ice. No quit in that team whatsoever. They have a good future ahead of them.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
by BLou on Jan 9, 2010 10:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Well said
Down 5-1 in the third, I half expected them to lay down but they showed they have a lot more character than that.
This was a hard lesson to learn but one that could really prove invaluable once the playoffs start.
by bluekoolaide on Jan 10, 2010 12:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
couldnt agree more
we have a game tomorrow so i hope they dont think about this loss for to long, but hey we played a bad game we cant win em all, now lets go duck hunting tomorrow night. Go Hawks
by wchuk29 on Jan 9, 2010 11:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hey guys, a suggestion
Now that game threads are going over 1000 comments, it may be time to think about adding a second thread as the game goes on, if and when one of you guys are around to do it. The commenting engine starts getting really slow after it gets up past a certain point.
Otherwise, tonight’s was an awesome thread for a very strange and ultimately deflating game.
by Brian C on Jan 9, 2010 11:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
+1
I have an old computer I use in this room with the TV and it’s really tough.
However, I’d suggest 2 GDT’s: One for Huet haters, one for the rest of us.
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by Trixietrx on Jan 9, 2010 11:31 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
So a separate short bus thread?
I like it.
by Slaky on Jan 9, 2010 11:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ditto-
My Vic 20 really cant take it.
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jan 9, 2010 11:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You should really upgrade. The IBM PC/AT is really something.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
by meeshak on Jan 9, 2010 11:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've been coveting a Tandy for a while now...
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jan 10, 2010 12:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
I know that it lags after 400 or so comments… but I thought we might just be seeing something unusual. We’ll try something different for tomorrow just in case
by Matthew Dirt on Jan 9, 2010 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's the return of Thor
and gametime feeds and beer. Gotta be.
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by Trixietrx on Jan 9, 2010 11:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Post a sign, “There is no more room on this bandwagon!”
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 9, 2010 11:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We can all mushy about this, but
The truth is we win this game if Sopel is in goal from 5-1
I’ve watched this team since the early 70’s and never seen a goalie blow a game like this. After they got to within 1 the Hawks were playing keep away and that last goal was just horrible I’m speechless and I guarantee Q is as well. They have been hiding Huet all year and it didn’t work tonight.
Awful. How can anyone be an apologist for this douche who blows a 5-1 game? Amazingly bad.
by Duck99 on Jan 9, 2010 11:20 PM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Q was amazingly calm in the presser.
Unlike the “sky is falling” group that’s hangin’ around here tonight, he realizes that there will be a bad night once in a while and that this group wins as a team and occasionally loses as a team. They all fell asleep in the 3rd. Deal with it.
by timmetz on Jan 9, 2010 11:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Nuff said!
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by Uncle Buttershoe on Jan 9, 2010 11:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I’ve been watching this team since the 20’s so I also know everything.
by Original Six on Jan 10, 2010 2:52 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This is wasted breath, but
How do you blame that third period on only Huet? The entire team played half-heartedly in the last period, as if they were laying down on fucking cots between shifts. So missed assignments, poor board battles, sloppy zone clearings, slow feet … that all gets a pass, but Huet, just 1 of the 20 guys who fucked this up royally, is the only one you saw?
You’ve been watching hockey for 40 years and this is the state of your analytical power? Chrsit, blame the loss on the phase of the moon. Makes as much sense.
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by ChicoMaki on Jan 10, 2010 9:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well since you have ben watching since the 70's...
you should know that a TEAM blows a four goal lead, not an individual.
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by Hawkswordofdeath on Jan 10, 2010 2:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
or been
"All very successful commanders are prima donnas and must be so treated." George S. Patton
by Hawkswordofdeath on Jan 10, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey!
No logic in the Huet-hate koolaid!
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Huet
Yeah you’re right – none of the six goals scored on him were in any way his fault (note heavy sarcasm). Stop just ONE of them and they win in regulation.
That said, in fairness to Huet, from a former hater, on balance he is playing very well this year. However…. it’s not too objective to absolve him of ANY blame in this game.
by Return of the Roar on Jan 9, 2010 11:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
not to be picky, but there were 5 goals
by DemonHawk on Jan 10, 2010 12:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I miss period 1 and 2 due to a family party and I arrive home and get smacked with that shit.
I want to say how crazy it is Hossa has 11 goals already. Hes catching up to all the guys and is going to surpass maybe all of them except for Kane pretty soon.
DAM! That MOFO knows hockey!
"so once again, Ive been had"
by HjammerTime on Jan 9, 2010 11:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
At least we got a point.
I have a feeling we may need it not to far off in the future. I’m watching the Scum completely wax the Sharks right now 4-1…
Bears, Beets, Battlestar Galactica.
by AirTrafficAJ on Jan 9, 2010 11:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...
maybe we should give up a few cheap points so the Sharks get the #1 seed and have to play the likely #8 seed scum in the first round.
by timmetz on Jan 9, 2010 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention
The winner of the Presidents trophy usually shits the bed in the playoffs.
Welcome to the Glibert Arenas Gun Show.
by AirTrafficAJ on Jan 10, 2010 8:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
WHAT?
We’re not supposed to have a bad night every now and then? Not a lot of shots on Huet in the first two periods. He must of been thinking about the flight home. It happens. Im sure they will respond tomorrow night against Anaheim. I wont panic if you dont.
Hot Dogs are like a T-Bone Steak where I come from.
by Uncle Buttershoe on Jan 9, 2010 11:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
a bad night is losing 4-1
Blowing a 5-1 lead is awful
. They will bounce back, but that was a shameful performance that a championship team does not make more than once per season.
by Duck99 on Jan 9, 2010 11:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Did you happen to watch any Penguin's games around this time last year?
Obviously not, because they dropped about a month’s worth of turds and still did pretty well.
by timmetz on Jan 9, 2010 11:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A Pens team that hadn't won a cup in 50 years?
There’s a difference.
by Duck99 on Jan 9, 2010 11:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
You're from Chicago?
Explains why you think a title drought has any effect on a team’s performance.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
by meeshak on Jan 9, 2010 11:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How many of last year's Pens players
were on the previous cup-winning team? I really don’t get your point if there is one.
by timmetz on Jan 10, 2010 12:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Its not the players.
Its the jerseys.
Its like how everyone was talking about how Alabama had never beaten Texas before the National Championship like it had any bearing on the game they were about to play. Maybe the uniforms were being haunted by ghosts of games past.
by Original Six on Jan 10, 2010 2:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I know it may be a little obvious to the rest of us but...
No team from this year is dressing the same team they did when they last won a Cup?
by chiblackhawks on Jan 10, 2010 8:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
By the time it was tied, I looked at my wife and told her to go get the hard hat. I just knew I couldn’t come on this site without it.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 9, 2010 11:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I can’t come without a hard hat period.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
by meeshak on Jan 9, 2010 11:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
haha, nice
This is a good one.
www.mjt.org
by ChicoMaki on Jan 10, 2010 9:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck
I did not need that image!
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by Trixietrx on Jan 10, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You know you’ve had that fantasy, where the construction worker… uh… nevermind.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 9:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was just paying you back.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
by meeshak on Jan 10, 2010 5:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cristobal "Koolaid" Huet video here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQJK4g3jVto
1961 is a long time ago.
by HawkJaw on Jan 9, 2010 11:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The last time the 'Hawks blew a four-goal lead in the third period
was this game (2/23/08 in L.A.), which I remember well because I aged about 20 years in that third period alone. Circumstances were a little different, though—we were still well away from a playoff spot, and it was more of a learning experience type game than a wake-up call. After the game, even though they had eventually won it in OT, every single player that was interviewed expressed how disappointed they were in their overall effort, even though they were a middle-of-the-pack team.
Fast forward to tonight, with the ‘Hawks sitting on top of the West, and giving up a third period four-goal lead seems much worse, perhaps because we didn’t get the second point, or because of the perceived quality of the opponent, or because of who was in net. It’s much more of a wake-up call to be manhandling a team for 40 minutes and then just completely hit the skids when you have so much quality on the roster. Good thing is, now they’ve got a little pride to recover tomorrow. The worst they could do right now is completely freak out, but knowing this team, they won’t.
/vomit
by gmh on Jan 9, 2010 11:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Just my 2 cents
but I’ll try to keep it logical.
I’ve heard people complaining that Q didn’t pull Huet for Niemi after Min’s 4th goal (or maybe 3rd, whichever), if for no other reason than to save Huet’s psyche. I don’t know what the conventional wisdom is on this, but to me it makes no sense to pull a goalie past the middle of the 3rd period.
Before tomorrow’s game at the UC, watch the way the goalies stretch (that kind of flexibility is just shy of disgusting, if you ask me. I tried that butterfly stretch just once in my younger days and I about died). Compare that to the fact that for the previous 2 hours, the most strenuous physical activity Niemi had gone through was opening the door to the bench and adjusting his hat. Put him out there in that situation, and he’s going to be sluggish, and probably runs a pretty significant chance of injuring himself. Harding at least had the 2nd intermission to get loose.
by hawksfan21 on Jan 9, 2010 11:45 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
That's interesting and makes a lot of sense
I only wish I could be as flexible as goalies.
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by Trixietrx on Jan 9, 2010 11:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, god, I did not need that image.
On an unrelated note, before my back injury, I was that flexible.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
by meeshak on Jan 9, 2010 11:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't mean it like that!
Don’t worry, Mom’s don’t have sex.
I’d just like to be able to bend over to pick stuff up off the floor without my little grippy thingie without yelling out “Oy” every fucking time.
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by Trixietrx on Jan 10, 2010 12:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I've heard that Mom don't do that
perhaps why so many Dads end up banging their secretary.
by krome on Jan 11, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with this
why throw Niemi out there for half a period while your team is in the midst of blowing a lead, when he’s most likely going to play the next day and should remain physically and psychologically fresh?
by gmh on Jan 9, 2010 11:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It struck a chord with me personally from my 4 years of college water polo. I played so little I stopped even bringing a towel to tournaments because I had air dried from warmups by the time the game ended. I think I was the team’s all time leader in games entered with 12 seconds left. But that’s just my own journey.
Either way, the warmup is there for a reason. The few times Niemi has relieved Huet this season he hasn’t exactly been lights out immediately upon entering. In the Calgary game he was softer than Huet for a couple shots. It takes him a while to get locked in in relief, and with 5 minutes left, it would have probably happened after we lost in regulation.
by hawksfan21 on Jan 10, 2010 12:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Niemi vs Huet
I agree (barely) with not pulling Huet. However, I WOULD like to see Q start playing Niemi more than once in a row for a while…..just to let it sink into Huet that there IS a possibility if he keeps falling asleep and letting bad goals in too often that he will find himself as a #2 vs guaranteed #1.
by husler777 on Jan 10, 2010 12:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
Huet needs to change his game plan of purposely giving up bad goals.
by hawksfan21 on Jan 10, 2010 1:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This
I remember a game earlier this season when Toskala basically pulled himself out of a game— skated toward Ron Wilson, told him he couldn’t play anymore because of some sort of ailment— and Wilson had to check to make sure he couldn’t make it til the end of the period, because Gustavsson didn’t have time to stretch.
by chiblackhawks on Jan 10, 2010 8:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and hows wilson doing in Toronto these days?
Not sure but I would think in the job description for backup goalie somewhere it should say be ready at all times during the 60 freakin minutes to play. This isn’t the 24 hours of Lemans here . 60 minutes,unless ot or shootout.still is it too much to ask for a backup to be ready for lets say 90 minutes max on any given night? Maybe if he feels hes getting a bit stale he could oh I don’t know go down in the tunnel and stretch? Stay ready/ My guess and the only legitimate reason I can see, barring unknown injury, is that coachQ didnt want Niemi to unfairly get a loss for Huets dump like he did a few games back when he came in in relief gave up one goal and got the loss.
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 9:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wilson's still an NHL coach
and you’re not.
by chiblackhawks on Jan 10, 2010 9:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Q
takes “possibility of unfair losses” into account when considering a goalie change.
by HungryHungryPanda on Jan 10, 2010 9:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The one night I go outt.
"Blocked by the shaft of a diving Brent Seabrook."
by oneminuteremainingintheperiodoneminute on Jan 10, 2010 1:04 AM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Shootouts
WTF???!!!! I thought shootouts would be easy wins from now on because eventually worst case an opponent will miss the net once in a while and with Toews, Kane, Hossa, Sharp, Versteeg we’re guarenteed at LEAST 4 outta 5 right? Frick….ONE goal in 8 tries? And we had to go 11 rounds earlier this season?
by husler777 on Jan 10, 2010 1:04 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Speaking as a Top 10 commenter (yeesh)
This is absolutely the best thing that could have happened — if they re-learn the 60 minutes lesson.
Anyone here who thinks that Minnesota is going to fight for position with the Hawks in April: raise your hands. Didn’t think so. So we get a point after trying to throw away both of them, from a team that won’t matter much in the end.
These guys are human. They’ll screw up. Sometimes royally. The real question is: do they lose their confidence? If they tighten up, this could be the beginning of a bad stretch. But I’m betting the other way — and a good performance tomorrow night will validate that.
Oh, and GET OFF HUET. A 2-point-nothing GAA is nothing to sneer at. Niemi could start tomorrow, but if weren’t a back-to-back, I’d light a fire under his ass and put him right back out there.
WAIT FOR THE WHISTLE!
by Sec 326 Bureau Chief on Jan 10, 2010 1:18 AM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
thanks..
I had to text Sam after the game to see if Huet was really so awful and I somehow just missed it. I don’t think he had a good game by any means… but neither did anyone else in the third period..
by Matthew Dirt on Jan 10, 2010 1:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Huet wasn't bad......The Wild just decided to all pretend they're Ovechkin in the 3rd
Cripes. You had to text to find out if letting 4 goals in on 7 shots was awful? Are talking about an All Star game here? Last I checked it was the Wild and that save percentage is less than 50%. In my book that is awful. Or are we just talking about the stellar 74% save percentage for the whole game? I’m not agreeing with the Huet haters that he has to go, but the Huet lovers are starting to tint their glasses a bit too rosy lately.
by husler777 on Jan 10, 2010 1:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
but the Huet lovers are starting to tint their glasses a bit too rosy lately.
I believe that it is more that the haters are so vocal, that the moderates feel obligated to defend him.
I grew up as a defenseman, and therefore I am much harsher on defence than anyone else. I also tend to feel that a goal is the defences fault, not the goalie. Again, I feel that way personally, but I don’t expect everyone to share that opinion.
The most annoying part to me, is that the “haters” are nonexistent when Huet is doing good, not one post. Then they feel that they must come on the site and whine excessively when he doesn’t.
And for the final thought, even God had a bad day at work. Have you seen a Platypus up close?
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 8:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There are just more of them now
That Campbell is playing better. Misguided rage has to be focused on someone, or it’s lost.
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by AirTrafficAJ on Jan 10, 2010 8:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Puhhlease stop with the Huet apologies!
He’s terrible. At the very least a $5 million goalie should be able to pull this one out. So often he has no idea where the puck is or simply makes a one save effort the just gives up. i.e. the save hammer made for him against the wild tonight. The last 2 Wild goals he doesn’t even know where the puck is, and I’m not sure what coachQ was thinking tonight but why let this guy continue to flop around the ice like a carp when you have an answer on your bench, seemed to work for the Wild. Make Niemi the starter get one of Atlanta’s goalies as a backup in the Kovy deal and make Huet part of the deal, with copious other talent as well and lets stop having to watch a $5 million dollar a year goalie that can’t make 20 saves a game. Enough already, a chimp could play goal in front of our D on most nights. He’s an average goalie at best who’s salary is gonna cost us much mope valuable talent in the long run. Cut him loose Now pls
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 3:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't going to bother responding to the mouth breathers,
but you want to complain about THIS GOALbecause he didn’t know where the puck was? You must be fucking dense if you can’t see the large ass firmly planted in his face. But I’m sure that’s his fault too, right? On the NEXT GOAL he knew exactly where the puck was but simply got beat on a quick slapshot from the dot. Its the only goal that he could reasonably be blamed for. Goalie play is directly correlated with defensive play. Go back and look at all those goals and you’ll see defensive breakdowns on all of them. Blaming the goalie is really fucking easy. Actually figuring out what happened to cause the goal requires brains.
Unsure what Coach Q was thinking? How about let’s not injure the guy who has to start for us tomorrow. Do you have any idea how difficult it would be for a backup to sit on the bench for 2 hours and then get up and perform at a high level? Harding played better than Backstrom because the Wild decided to start playing a defensive system. He had to whole 2nd intermission to get stretched out and warm. He wasn’t asked to come in with a few minutes remaining, stop potential game winning goals, and then make stops in the shootout.
Making half baked armchair GM decisions sure is easy too, eh? Let’s just ship away the guy who I just said sucks because a team would love to give up their upcoming goalie and replace him with this sucky guy. But really its all about making a guy who has played in 14 NHL games the starter, right?
by Original Six on Jan 10, 2010 3:38 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Adjust Your Monitor...
In addition to Wild goal #5 – where Huet was cleanly beaten 5-hole – Wild goal #3 was directly the result of Huet’s trampolene-like gift of a rebound, “conveniently” delivered right into the center of the slot.
Poor rebound control is one of the troubling deficiencies in goaltending basics that have been part of Huet’s game since his start way back with the Kings, including:
• poor lateral movement/push from post to post;
• as games wear on, shows the tendency to get set up too deep in his crease, allowing shooters too much of the corners;
• remarkably bad tracker of puck movement, particularly behind his net.
These tendencies have repeatedly shown themselves his 6 NHL seasons – all part of the “book” on Huet. And you better believe every shooter in the league knows that “book.”
And while I was not happy when Dale signed him given all of the above, I am a Blackhawks fan and always hope he can overcome and excel like he did in Washington. Would I be prefer someone “better?” Of course, but this season has proven that reliable excellence in goaltending has become a precious rare commodity. And with that $5.65M/yr albatross attached to his neck, Huet’s tradeability is off-the-charts bad.
I’d argue that the real answer is to get Niemi more minutes. The idea that there must be a clear-cut #1 and #2 order to your goaltenders is antiquated, particularly in this season of Olympic schedule compression forcing so many back-to-backs.
by LordStanleyOfPreston on Jan 10, 2010 4:39 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Well stated
But I do have a question. While you state that there’s no need for a #1 and #2 to be clear cut, and I can see that logically, wouldn’t it affect the goalie? I mean, is there a point to it in terms of giving a goalie some confidence that he’s #1, where if he had to share the spot with a rookie perhaps really do a mind fuck on him?
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by Trixietrx on Jan 10, 2010 9:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
there is a 'book' on every goalie
maybe the reason niemi is playing so well is because there is no ‘book’ on him yet, kind of like a rookie starting pitcher who dominates the first half of the season, but gets lit up the second and third times teams see him. just saying.
by illinikc33 on Jan 10, 2010 9:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you
for actually putting thought into most of this. Its more than most would do.
I don’t disagree with your thoughts on the 5th goal. Actually, I said Huet got beat on a quick shot. But I disagree with you saying rebound control was the reason for the 3rd goal. Seabrook chased into the corner, Kane left his man, and Brouwer didn’t rotate soon enough, resulting in this. It obviously Huet’s fault for giving up a rebound on a shot that he couldn’t even see. Its probably also his fault that Koivu was just left waiting in the slot with Koivu’s defender way off in the opposite corner.
by Original Six on Jan 10, 2010 12:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This is
what I have been echoing here for 3 weeks and been subjected to attacks from all of the Huet apologists here over and over. I am glad to see here today that there are a number of others who can see Huet for what he is, a 30-something nomad goalie who on his best days is a good goalie and on most days a fair to poor goalie.
by Esquire02 on Jan 10, 2010 1:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You have to admit
you have mellowed with age.
And yes, we all know about Huet.
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by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
/sigh
welcome back.
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
if you can find a way to deal Huet to the Panthers for Vokoun I’m interested. Otherwise…
by Crease Monkey on Jan 10, 2010 2:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This whole team is fucking clown shoes
I’m tired of losses like this. It’s time to blow up this team and start from scratch, as they obviously don’t have want it takes to win a cup. I mean, blowing a 4 goal lead? Only shitty teams do that! We need to start by trading Huet for a real goalie- someone like Ty Conklin in St. Louis (He’s won a cup!) or maybe Ryan Miller from Buffalo. Or we can trade him for a backup and let Niemi play moar. Then we need to trade Toews to a team to a contender like Minnesota for draft picks. After that, we should just release Hossa and eat his contract as I think he’s a cancer to this team, plus he’s a jinx. Finally we should send Kane to Rockford so he can learn to play defense.
This team is so bad and it’s time to fix it! My plan will WORK!
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by Mike Martin on Jan 10, 2010 5:25 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Will you be the GM
Of my fantasy team? The current one is a fucking motard.
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by AirTrafficAJ on Jan 10, 2010 8:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am not longer standing behind Huet
cause…..I am afraid I would get hit with the puck!!
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by ccm on Jan 10, 2010 6:59 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Mouth Breather??
Yeah I should be more rational like the idiots like you and the goof that says we should blow up the team . Listen just because you find Huet attractive and will be heartbroken when he finds another companion elsewhere doesnt mean the rest of us have to watch him indirectly dismantle this team with his huge salary . Other players i.e. sharp,seabrook,hammer ect could go unsigned because we have this average at best goalie making $5 mil per. There comes expectations with that and hes simply not meeting them . Clear evidence is Niemis numbers . They’re better! BECAUSE WE HAVE THE BEST DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE! A chimp should be able to play good in front of these guys most nights.This may be a biased observation but the whole team seems to have more life when Niemi’s in there . Go get an established veteran backup ,cheap goalie who can supplant Niemi if he stumbles, Plenty on the market right now and cut huey loose before he ruins the best chance this team has for a championship since the Beatles invaded America. Nothing personal against Huey seems like a nice guy but he’s not a difference maker and at $5 mil per he should be. These glitches should be the exception to the rule instead his good games are. In the playoffs last year he had one good game and was horrid otherwise.Thats been his Hawks story he has one good performance, which anyone who makes the NHL should have at least one thats why they’re here, and then guys like you say see told ya so. He’s average at best and overpaid even at half the cost his numbers right now are deceptive enough to move him to someone looking for help and possibly eat some of his money so now is the time. I apologize if this means you two have to have a long distance relationship after that but hey I want my Hawks to win.
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 8:29 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
Here's an idea for newbies
Yeah I should be more rational like the idiots like you and the goof that says we should blow up the team
Before you start posting, just take 30 min. or so to read through some past threads. You’ll get a decent sense of the sarcasm used by most of the posters here.
Enough already, a chimp could play goal in front of our D on most nights…A chimp should be able to play good in front of these guys most nights
If you promise to overlook our Huet fetish, we’ll promise to overlook your chimp fetish. Deal?
by HungryHungryPanda on Jan 10, 2010 8:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Couple things
1) Are you saying Huet plays worse than a chimp?
2) Niemi’s numbers are similar to Huet’s, however, there’s not enough games played to make a good decision on this.
I’d be interested to know (stat geek help me) what the average Hawks goals per game are with each netminder in goal. My question would be are they scoring less with Niemi in net because they’re spending more time protecting him?
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by Trixietrx on Jan 10, 2010 9:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
half-assed number crunch
The Hawks have scored 53 goals in Niemi’s 14 games, 3 of which were in overtime/SO. Which is an average of 3.8 goals/game, 3.6/game if you remove the three overtime/SO goals. Both of which are higher than the Hawks 3.27 overall G/G, so the Hawks are actually scoring More when Niemi is in net, even though they are protecting him.
by DirkGrahamKnuckleSandwich on Jan 10, 2010 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
caveat
Like I said, it was a half-ass number crunch. I didn’t take into account the two? games Niemi has replaced Huet, as in how many goals did the Hawks score while Huet was in, and how many when Niemi was in. I don’t think the numbers show anything, really, 14 games is too small of a sample size to really get anything out of. My two cents: keep the ratio about the same, two Huet starts for every Niemi start. As the season progresses, we’ll have a better idea of where each of them are. If Niemi out-plays Huet, give him more starts.
by DirkGrahamKnuckleSandwich on Jan 10, 2010 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see why that's funny
But if everytime we try to look at this you pull out some sort of insult, we’re gonna get defensive. There’s a lot more to it than what I asked, I was curious.
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by Trixietrx on Jan 10, 2010 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You want your Hawks to win.
They lead the league in points. I am confused. Notwithstanding last night’s game, they were on one of the greatest streaks of hockey I have every seen. Again, I am confused.
I want you to name 5 of the possible “veteran goaltenders” that are available who are better than Huet. Then, I want you to explain to us how (1) Bowman will be able to trade Huet for one of these “veteran goaltenders” while somehow hiding the fact that Huet is “worse” than this veteran goaltender, (2) Bowman will convince this “veteran goaltender” that he is better than our #1, yet will have to now sit behind Niemi, he of the 14 GS in his career, and (3) what kind of message that would send to the team, that, you know, our #1 goalie who is top 5 in GAA, has 3 SOs, and has led us to a dominant first half isn’t good enough. Thanks.
And the money angle is irrelevant. Look up “sunk costs” on wikipedia for a crash course.
by illinikc33 on Jan 10, 2010 9:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, not to be a prick or anything, but I think this loss dropped us out of the playoff race. I haven’t checked, but I think whenever a good team loses a game that they should win, you have to forfeit 20 points. It would normally be just 10 points, but because it’s the first time this year a good team has played poorly, you double it.
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by ChicoMaki on Jan 10, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope,
20 points, and we are still in the race. lol
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 9:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Reply failing that doesn’t help your case.
by Original Six on Jan 10, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So it's ok for you to be sarcastic and no one else?
My comments were clearly intended to be entirely sarcastic unless of course there is some truth to the rumor with you and Huey? Hmmm? As for my chimp fetish sorry was watching Planet of the Apes while posting my bad. Just trying to make a point. I’ll change the channel now.
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 8:53 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
please learn to use the reply button
by chiblackhawks on Jan 10, 2010 9:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL reply button it is
Thats sarcasm right?
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 9:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Hawks did this to the Flames.............remember?
The Flames are doing just fine since then. 3rd in the West. They have not tradted Kipper just yet, and I doubt they are considering it. We think that it was a great comeback and defines the season. The Flames don’t see it that way. Now we know how the flame fans feel.
The Wild are not as bad as you all think they are. They are an over .500 team, 6 points out of the playoffs. They have something to play for.
Huet lost the game for his team tonight, but if his team scores one goal in the last 20 min……………
Still first in the West, 8-1-1 in the last ten. I’ll take it.
I actually think this was the Hawks gift to JHC for last year.
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by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 9:03 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
but
Big difference between us doing that to the Flames and the freaking Wild doing that to us.
by clhoffy on Jan 10, 2010 9:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not really
The Flames have Kipper. And we were down 5, not just 4. And I don’t recall how many minutes we had to do that.
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by Trixietrx on Jan 10, 2010 9:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That last goal in the third
Lay it on Hendry. Watch the highlights. He screwed it.
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by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 9:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just a reminder
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=87892361691&ref=ts
by clhoffy on Jan 10, 2010 9:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jesus Christ
People need to stop throwing themselves off bridges. (Actually, since the jumpers are likely also Huet haters…. go ahead. It’s the end of the world! We’ll never go all the way! THE SKY! THE SKY! IT’S FAAAAAALLLIIIIIING!!!!)
It’s one loss— and we even got a point out of it. This team has rebounded from sounder thrashings. Get a grip, you guys. If there’s anyone who should be FURIOUS about this, it’s the team. And trust me. They are.
by chiblackhawks on Jan 10, 2010 9:10 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
<-- Huet Hater
Im not jumping off a bridge, but Im just really concerned about the mental lapses. I will be the first to admit that he has played really well overall this season, but I just wonder sometimes where this guy’s focus is.
by clhoffy on Jan 10, 2010 9:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You misunderestimate us
The Hawks are a great team I l am a huge fan and still rooting like a madman. Noone is saying this is the end . Thats an irrational judgement on behalf of the Huet lovers. Hawks are the best team going , still are in spite of Huets shortcomings , because of the defense. Actually if anyone is poised to jump its the Hueylovers at the mere thought of losing their beloved. This is a better team without him this year and will be a much better team without him in the future sans his salary . If it comes down to most of the Hawks who will be negotiating as opposed to dumping Huet and his salary now Ill take the potential FA’s. My main point was His numbers right now make him deceptively tradeable. Why wait for this guy to continue being average or go in the tank completely and become unmovable. No rational NHL fan worth his salt can honestly say that Huet is anywhere near his money. How often has anyone written that Huet actually won a game for them. Very rarely. Sure I know you guys think he’s cute and everything but come on enough already. Umm anyone know what time the primate house opens today?
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 9:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry will try to use smaller words heheh
sans = without
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 9:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, that’s extremely cool of you to reply. But what does without mean?
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by ChicoMaki on Jan 10, 2010 9:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
um...
sans is snaller than without. Just sayin’
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 9:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So you propose what?
Niemi as #1 and Crawford as #2? Niemi can’t pull that off himself, and you’re proposing wreaking havoc on the team’s chemistry. How does this help us get the Cup?
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by Trixietrx on Jan 10, 2010 9:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Duh,
trade Huet for Brodeur.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 9:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh no not Trixie too.
From speed racer ? That is truly heartbreaking. heheh Sorry Trixie but if you read my posts I said sign a cheap veteran backup, plenty out there to be had and move Hueys salary.
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 9:39 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I wanted to grow up and be a racecar driver.
Still don’t see where Huey’s salary is relevant, or which cheap veteran is better or available for less.
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by Trixietrx on Jan 10, 2010 9:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe the Isles will let us have DiP, he lost the game in Dallas this week. Probly time for a trade…
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still waiting for him
to respond to my request for that up above. Until he does that it’s stupid to respond to a post that says “Trade Huet for a better veteran backup.” It’s like saying “OMG TRADE KOPECKEY AND BARKER AND THROW IN A DRAFT PICK FOR KOVI”
by illinikc33 on Jan 10, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still on the bandwagon of
Let’s trade Barker for, um, well, a puck?
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by Trixietrx on Jan 10, 2010 9:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nonono
trade BARKER AND DRAFT PICK FOR KOVI!
by illinikc33 on Jan 10, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You’ve changed it? I thought it was for a box of condoms so we can protect Burish?
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Barker < the amount of condoms needed
to protect Burish.
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by Trixietrx on Jan 10, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck
I guess that would be more than a box, we will never get that much.
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 9:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
relevance
his money ties up money available for seabrook,Hammer, other Hawk Fas and possible trades that could help this team Kovy?
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 9:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Irrelevant
Money has nothing to do with performance. It’s a sunk cost that we are not getting back, so focusing on something that cannot be changed is retarded.
by illinikc33 on Jan 10, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No shit
It’s ONE bad loss, hell the Hawks still got a point out of it!
Stop acting like it was Game 7. If anything the sting from shitting away a lead like that to a team like that should make this team play all out from now on for 60min, and not sit on any lead and just relentlessly attempt to actually put a puck through the net!!
In a week or two we may be talking about 12-13 straight four goal games, and completly merciolous beatdowns of any team not wearing the Indian-head, goalies and coaches being found curled up in balls in a corner in a closet, and a spree of Drunkeness from opposing D-men and forwards.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jan 10, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You sir, paint a very nice picture.
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a serious problem.
I hate so many people without even knowing them. I really need to try to be more positive, and certainly less judgmental. But until I figure out how to do that: Fuck off everyone who doesn’t believe what I believe.
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by ChicoMaki on Jan 10, 2010 9:27 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd
Now you have reached my level.
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 9:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Minnesota hits
They count by twos up there – that’s how Clutterbuck gets 2,383,214 hits every year.
by JKline3 on Jan 10, 2010 9:29 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
If I say,
that I am a millionaire enough times, then it must be true, Right? I just wonder where I can pick up my money.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 9:36 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
$5 million goaltender
It’s pointless to use this as a reason why Huet underperforms in net. The Hawks offered him the contract, and Huet accepted – who wouldn’t. Don’t blame Huet for being a $5 million goaltender and not playing up to it – blame the front office.
That said, I’m not one of the top year’s posters – I can’t even begin to try to match the comments made here, but it is entertaining. Huet did not play well in the third, but the entire team played horribly. Shouldn’t the vitriol against at Huet be re-directed to the entire team? I didn’t see any Hawks pick up their games when things started collapsing. They were slower getting to the pucks, and they were running around in a panic. I think Edzo at one point said if they just stick to the game plan, they’ll still win. Didn’t happen. They dominated in OT – too late though. And why couldn’t more than one Hawk pot one in the shootout?
The whole team should be held responsible for the loss of the point – not just one player. That’s what good teams understand.
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by The Fearless Freep on Jan 10, 2010 9:37 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
What is this thing you propose? logic? I do not know what this thing is.
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 9:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BUT OMG OMG
EVEN GOOD GOALIES WOULD WIN THIS ONE GAME!!!! BRODOUER WINS THIS GAME EVERY TIME!!!! NABAKOV WINS THIS GAME EVERY TIME!!!! KOPROSOFF WINS THIS GAME…..shit.
by illinikc33 on Jan 10, 2010 9:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
BRODOUER WINS THIS GAME EVERY TIME!!!!
Except against the Hawks. ;)
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i was being sarcastic; just in case people didn't get it
by illinikc33 on Jan 10, 2010 9:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I got it, I just tried to be a smart-ass, but evidently I only made it to half-assed.
/sigh
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 9:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you’re no mjthor, that’s for sure.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
by meeshak on Jan 10, 2010 4:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you! That’s probably the nicest thing anyone has said to me all day!
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 4:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you mean
In a shootout?
How about the first true home game of the year?
http://blackhawks.nhl.com/club/recap.htm?id=2009020058
Or maybe in 11 rounds at home again,
http://blackhawks.nhl.com/club/recap.htm?id=2009020391
wait what?
by pepe126 on Jan 12, 2010 2:17 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
and since the D has carried him the entire year isnt is reasonable that your $5 million dollar goalie should step up. If it was a matter of huey having an off night once in a while ok I get it but this guy is rarely a difference maker. Oh and I dont blame him for taking the money only that the money along with his mediocre performance makes him a huge liability for this team
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Question for you
Shouldn’t any goalie step up? You’d be OK with Niemi shitting the bed if he didn’t make $5MM/year? So this is all on the money angle?
by illinikc33 on Jan 10, 2010 9:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No its on his performance / timing/ money angle.
Hawks window talent wise will probably never be better as some defections are expected due to money, Huets salary is an impediment because it ties up money now that could be used to get improve an already great team and make money available for expected cash crunch next yeat for guys that contribute far more than him and his performance for the 1000th time is at best average at worst to paraphrase you crapping the bed Whats so difficult about that
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 9:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The difficulty
comes in on HOW EXACTLY do you propose we dump his salary and what will we get in return that’s worth more than that? You’re still gonna need to pay for another goalie, the Huet haters for the most part think we need someone who’s won a cup before…. I just don’t get it or see how even Bowman could pull it off.
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by Trixietrx on Jan 10, 2010 9:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
the whole argument is moot. Who would the hawks pick up? how would they fit in the cap limits? who would you have to dump? can’t dump huet – if he sucks as bad as you say, then good luck trading him.
The salary angle doesn’t hold water. And it doens’t help the team.
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by The Fearless Freep on Jan 10, 2010 9:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The answer is Osgood
Cheap: check.
Veteran goaltender: check.
Won multiple Cups: check.
Currently playing back-up to a rookie: check.
Let’s just go ahead and bogart the entire Red Wings team. THEY’VE won Cups in the last 50 years, THIS kind of team will NEVER do that since we blew a 4-goal lead and Championship caliber teams do that only ONCE a year.
by chiblackhawks on Jan 10, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Nah,
cna’t be Osgood, he lost the SC last year, that means he sucks, right?
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 9:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so clearly the only answer is Fleury
by chiblackhawks on Jan 10, 2010 9:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
It’s Kalynn, my 6 year old daughter. She’s NEVER lost in the finals!
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 10:01 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
AND she'll play for candy!
Well. Will she?
by chiblackhawks on Jan 10, 2010 10:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
She's a girl
she will only play for Chocolate.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are there provisions for fitting in chocolate under the cap?
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by ChicoMaki on Jan 10, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
For Cristmas, I got her the giant herseys bar, (You know the 12" by 4" one that looks like a roofing shingle?), nad she didn’t want to go back to her mothers. So I figure 20 dollars worth of chocolate a week, an dshe will tear it up!
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait til she hits puberty
That chocolate need is gonna skyrocket. But we can trade her before then.
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by Trixietrx on Jan 10, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope to have another one coming up by then, and I can just trade the first to her mother until she is out of puberty.
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
heh
I’m a go. Get ’er signed.
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by ChicoMaki on Jan 10, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My version of a retirement plan.
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 10:04 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is there any other reason to have children?
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by Trixietrx on Jan 10, 2010 10:06 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mowing the lawn, washing the dishes, cleaning the house…
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Children really do those things?
Will you have a talk with my son?
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by Trixietrx on Jan 10, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I did all that and took care of an acre a half of garden, send your son here, I have a fence that needs put in, and a garden to build.
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought we already did
bogart the Scum.
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by Trixietrx on Jan 10, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah,
but that guy sucks!
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 10:02 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
YEAHHH
They’re all on IR, so we can trade Kane’s lazy ass for all of them and save cap space!
by Original Six on Jan 10, 2010 12:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
Stop saying “at best average to worst.” Seriously, just stop saying it. What metric do you use to evaluate goalies? I’m guessing it’s your own personal eye test, which, well, means shit. I’ll take the evaluation abilities of Dale Tallon and Coach Q, who brought him here and decided to make him the starter rather than trade him in the offseason, respectively. Again, since he WILL NOT BE TRADED, read it again champ, WILL NOT BE TRADED, the cash he makes is completely and utterly irrelevant. What matters is his play which, aside from 5-6 blips on the radar, in something like 30 games, most of which we won, mind you, has been better than anticipated, and quite a surprise.
by illinikc33 on Jan 10, 2010 9:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He's average at best
And plays in front of the leagues best defense which covers his ass almost every night . My thought sugges that they dump him while those numbers are artificially inflated. Those asking for specifics that would be up to Bowman to make that happen. If he’s as good as the Hlovers here think he is should be no prob right?
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So your answer is
By my bullshit eye test his numbers are artificially inflated. I have no solution, I just like to whine a lot. If Huet is really good Bowman can trade him easily. But wait, if Huet is good why would Bowman want to trade him? But. . . ASPLODE
Dude at least make sure your posts survive basic logic.
by illinikc33 on Jan 10, 2010 10:06 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd
because I liek ASPLODING.
by Original Six on Jan 10, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you use ASPLODE a lot. it’s kind of like your thing, isn’t it?
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
by meeshak on Jan 10, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And oh
I’m still waiting for your response to my reply above asking you how you propose the Hawks go about pulling off your master Huet dumping plan to bring in a BATTLE TESTED VETERAN BACKUP WHO HAS WON A PLAYOFF SERIES ZOMG!
by illinikc33 on Jan 10, 2010 9:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry ILL didnt realize how needy you were
The boards a bit busy. as I said above my master plan is irrelevant. It’s Bowmans job to put a deal together and if Hueys as good as the Huey lovers say money shouldnt matter. Kovy makes a ton of money and it appears he’s moving. If Hueys a top notch goalie(or is he?) surely theres a number of teams that will pay for tha
A good backup veteran that can supplant Niemi on a bad night well the talk is that there a number of those available. As much as I’d like to be the Hawks GM I’m not privy to the helmet phone conversations so thats the best I can do right now
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
IF HE IS A TOP NOTCH GOALIE
WHY WOULD WE TRADE HIM! BASIC LOGIC, SIR!
by illinikc33 on Jan 10, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And what to do about it -
It’s called a sunk cost. It’s what the Hawks have been dealt. OK they have a goaltender who is overpaid. I get it. So fucking what! Everyone has said Soupy is overpaid – so fucking what! This is the player they are. You’re blaming Huet for being overpaid. That’s bullshit. You know who’s really fucking overpaid? Rick DiPietro!
"...about six feet from the moose's butt."
by The Fearless Freep on Jan 10, 2010 9:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey!
no fair picking on DiP, injuries happen. Although he should probably give the money back since he was injured.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
By the way,
for those who have missed it before, the other team that I root for is the Islanders. Which means I know piss poor management decisions top to bottom and left to right.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Stop using such big words already!!!
Let the rest of us follow the debate, would you??
www.mjt.org
by ChicoMaki on Jan 10, 2010 9:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I already promised not to use sans again
what more can I do?
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 9:56 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
DiP
So because we overpaid Huet we should just accept it?? Like the foolish islanders ? We did that for years under the old man and whatd it get us, the point is right now, this being our best opportunity to win it all, we have an overpaid goalie taking cap space from more deserving employees. In my opinion his stats are deceptively adequate enough to move him because of our defense. If you dont you risk him continuing or declining his performance dimishing the opportunity to move him. He’s done nothing in our uni to warrant optimism and as far as his veteran presence why wasnt he the number 1 guy last year. He’s average thats why. Plenty of teams out there relying on young goalies
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 9:55 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to append this as a reply to every post you write until you answer, because your whining is meaningless without a way to fix your alleged "problem"
You want your Hawks to win.
They lead the league in points. I am confused. Notwithstanding last night’s game, they were on one of the greatest streaks of hockey I have every seen. Again, I am confused.
I want you to name 5 of the possible "veteran goaltenders" that are available who are better than Huet. Then, I want you to explain to us how (1) Bowman will be able to trade Huet for one of these "veteran goaltenders" while somehow hiding the fact that Huet is "worse" than this veteran goaltender, (2) Bowman will convince this "veteran goaltender" that he is better than our #1, yet will have to now sit behind Niemi, he of the 14 GS in his career, and (3) what kind of message that would send to the team, that, you know, our #1 goalie who is top 5 in GAA, has 3 SOs, and has led us to a dominant first half isn’t good enough. Thanks.
And the money angle is irrelevant. Look up "sunk costs" on wikipedia for a crash course.
by illinikc33 on Jan 10, 2010 10:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
umm look above pls
sorry you mustve worked for old man wirtz so I can unsterstand you outlook but the rest of us have moved on and hey this might shock you but the games are actually on free TV now check it out
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
Wirtz didn’t overpay, he refused to pay. Jesus.
by illinikc33 on Jan 10, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wirtz overpaid for 2 players his entire run as Hawks owner
Khabibulin and Adrian Aucoin. Everywhere else he pinched pennies so hard, Abraham Lincoln was screaming.
Welcome to the Glibert Arenas Gun Show.
by AirTrafficAJ on Jan 10, 2010 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
So your basic conundrum, as an observant fan, is that you want Chicago to have all the best players, and that Bowman is responsible for getting that done. Doing so entails having Niemi, completely untested as a starter, usurp Huet in the starter’s role and coasting into the playoffs that way. Also, trade Huet’s salary to 1 of 29 teams that are oh-so-willing to absorb close to 6 million dollars in salary, get a proven veteran backup in return somehow (there are, after all, so many of them) … and only then will you rest contentedly?
www.mjt.org
by ChicoMaki on Jan 10, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No I rest just fine now
I simply stated that huey sucks (average at best) is overpaid and should be traded For some reason that lit the boards up
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You have no idea
Saying Huet sucks here is akin to calling the Virgin Mary a whore while standing in Vatican City.
by Esquire02 on Jan 10, 2010 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
/sigh
No, here you survive to whine again. :)
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 2:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Still waiting to hear a viable solution
Okay you don’t want Huet around. We get it. What do you suggest they do?
Dump Huet – okay, how do you do that? Send him to the minors – hope he clears waivers. He doesn’t. So now he’s in the minors. He doens’t figure against the cap, but the Hawks are still paying for him. IN the meantime Niemi is the #1 GT. Who backs him up? Crawford? oh wait, you said pick up cam ward – who are you going to trade to pry him loose? And what happens when Niemi has a few bad games, as he may do given he’ll have double the workload in the meantime?
Give us answers, not complaints dude!
"...about six feet from the moose's butt."
by The Fearless Freep on Jan 10, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so are you saying that Hueys not tradeable
He’s an albatross with a bloated salary . Then we agree
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OK fans
I’ve got work to do and can’t spend any more time pointing out logical fallacies. Enjoy your Sundays.
by illinikc33 on Jan 10, 2010 10:07 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
ditto
i’m done.
"...about six feet from the moose's butt."
by The Fearless Freep on Jan 10, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
See you here for the sucks game?
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Logical to who
You’re a legend in your own mind eh?
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 10:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
When you're the only person who fails to comprehend
that your arguments are completely illogical and ass-backward, it’s easy to see who is a legend in his own mind.
by illinikc33 on Jan 10, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
says you ::nwaah:: hehehehe
THIS is the most logical thing you have said in this post, and it makes absolutely no sense to me.
/sigh
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 10:21 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
as well it should be for a hueylover
but thanks for playing
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 10:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
hueylover
No sir, but I do respect him.
I now offer a compromise, we can trade Huet, Barker, and you for Brodeur. You are obviously such a great and knowledgeable fan, that the Devils will HAVE to take the trade, and you get to continue complaining incessantly about a goalie that is doing better than MOST of the other goalies in the league. Everybody is happy.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 10:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
This Huet love is really getting creepy
Trade me if you like wherever I go it will be as a Hawks fan
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Agian, let me be as clear as possible, I AM NOT A HUET LOVER.
Did that go through? did you understand that? I also think that you are hating without looking.
Have I lost you yet? Are you still with me?
I believe that the Defence lost the game last night.
Still there? This is where I am afraid that you might get lost, so hang on tight.
If a goalie ranks in the top ten, and there are two goalies on every team, then that goalie is doing better than MOST of the other goalies, right?
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon
You know you love Huet.
As soon as you admit it, it will all be fine.
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, but I do have a huge crush on Sop… on So… okay, I just can’t even type it.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I knew it!
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I already said that I live for defence, but there are some things that cna not be put on paper…
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
you guys give backchecking a whole new meaning
nuff said
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 10:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
/sigh
I am now crushed by your vague homosexuality reference. Alas, however shall I go on…
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 10:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh neh neh merely a response to your homosexual exchange
please review
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
/sigh
What is the difference between two people who have known each other for over a year making jokes, and a person new to the scene making jokes?
/Hint: one of them is funny…
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and for a guy that doesnt have huet love
you sure spend alot of time defending him again lets be clear Im not critizing the team merely the overpaid,underperforming goalie
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
/sigh
I
Blame
The
D
.
I am criticizing the team, not merely the goalie. Can you see the difference? The team let the opponent run wild in the third period.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i hate you for that pun, intentional or not. it’s even worse that you didn’t point it out and profusely apologize in the post.
note: i love puns.
that’s a logical paradox if ever there was one.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
by meeshak on Jan 10, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i hate you for that pun
I wasn’t sure if anyone would get it, so I decided not to call notice to it.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 4:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
EXACTLY
Ed8, I am glad to see I am not alone here…keep the faith, it is difficult for some people to see the light….they like to deflect the criticism away from Huet by pointing out that the Hawks are leading the conference, etc…illogical and not on point.
by Esquire02 on Jan 10, 2010 2:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We like to deflect the criticism away from Huet by pointing out that the team is doing perfectly fine with a French goalie who is in the top echelon in terms of stats.
We’re not trying to make light of his brainfarts, but I at least watch enough hockey to know that pretty much every goaltender has huge brainfarts throughout the season. Did you see Luongo’s first few weeks? God, they were embarrassing. And Brodeur gave up 5 to the Hawks on New Year’s Eve. Halak gave up one of the softest goals I’ve ever seen last night, and he’s been so hot lately, the Habs are actually benching pricey Price. You know, the guy the Habs love so much, they traded Huet to a conference rival.
Most of us aren’t Huet lovers. You almost never see anyone post a comment like, “Shit, did you see that save? Huet is sooo fucking GOOD!” Our issue with this debate is that a) our board has suddenly been invaded by people who hardly ever post anything until Huet messes up and b) there seems to be no perspective on the relative merits of Huet and how to remedy this Cup-costing goalie situation in those posts.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
by meeshak on Jan 10, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Logic? ptui!
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 4:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
so if we dont agree with you we're illogical and backwards??
have fun at the bathhouse
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No
just dumbass, bandwagon jumping, underinformed, Hawks fan.
I have said this before, They could have a better Goalie. They don’t (If you think Niemi can win a cup you are really a dumbass). Deal with it! Go beat something else for a while.
Dumbass!
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 10:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
heheheh
dumbass you’re right that convinced my Lol
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad you heard me
Because if you say it, it must be true.
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I apologize to everyone for this reply/comment
Not enough coffee to undue last night
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
PLease explain
to me and Ed why Huet is so much more qualified to win a cup then Niemi? All I keep seeing from all you Huet defenders is that goals are the fault of the defense and that goalies are interchangable, so LOGIC dictates any goalie should be able to backstop the Hawks to a Cup based on those points you all keep making. It is illogical for yout ot say otherwise. Don’t both of them have comparable numbers in all categories, except of course in those that Niemi leads Huet. And, for the argument that Niemi has not played as many games this year, well he can only play in the games in which the coach puts him in, and don’t kid yourself, just as in all sports, often younger less paid players who are better, sit the bench because organizations feel they must play the guy they gave the huge salary too.
by Esquire02 on Jan 10, 2010 2:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
/sigh
Do you believe that Niemi is more qualified than Huet? All I keep seeing from the haters is that Niemi is more qualified. My question is as follows:
Why?
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
why not
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
by ccm on Jan 10, 2010 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
’Cause.
Weeeeee! this is fun!
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am soooo bored at work
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
by ccm on Jan 10, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am bored not going to work, if I don’t get a job soon I am afraid I am going to pass mjthor.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 2:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No
But I would like to see him get more playing time. He is younger by 7 years and therefore has much more potential and the same numbers. Since they are interchangeable, why not?
by Esquire02 on Jan 10, 2010 2:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Calling for Niemi to get more playing time is perfectly rational.
Awards: Second City Hockey Biggest Loser of 2009
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 2:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Because younger is not always better? Age promotes the chance at gaining wisdom, not wisdom itself mind you, but the chance. Youth has its fragility, weather it is mental, or otherwise. I would not change the order of them, but that is me.
Age does confer its own fragility, but that is normally physical.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
OK....
Once again, Huet is 33 and never been a starter until now and he is never going to be any better than what we have seen….Niemi is 26 and we don’t know what his upside is but he is at least as good as Huet at this point. That is why I would go with Niemi. I am not saying 33 years olds cant be great, of course they can but they were also starters before they were 33…Would you rather start a team with 21 year old Kane or a 33 year old Kane….do you get the point I am trying to make now….
by Esquire02 on Jan 10, 2010 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
/sighI left 5th grade a while ago, so I understand the point you are trying to make. I am trying to make the following points:
I have never seen a 33 year old Kane play, so I do not know how he will be. He may suck like my ex-wife.
To say that a player will never improve is forcasting. Nobody knows what a player will do in the future, that’s why the draft is so fun. The teams are guessing.
Some players are not “NHL worthy” (what ever that is supposed to be) at the age of 21, therefore it would stand to reason that they could be ready after that age.
See?
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 2:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No
What I see is a guy at age 33 who is in nearing the prime of his athletic career age-wise, has been playing goalie his entire life and is not going to get any better because physically he is going to decline. Niemi is entering his prime and is already as good as Huet but younger, quicker on his feet and has more potential to get better, Niemi should get more playing time to see if he will get better or not, We are not losing anything by having him in net. The numbers bear that out.
by Esquire02 on Jan 10, 2010 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well,
that flies in the face of those (perhaps you? I don’t remember) who way we need a seasoned vet in the net to win the cup. The arguments keep changing on why Huet should be out on his ass so I’m getting confused.
2009 SCH Post Whore
2010 Troll Collector
by Trixietrx on Jan 10, 2010 5:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
by the way
I was not trying to insult you, my comment about getting the point came across wrong…that is the problem with words on a screen sometime. I don’t think i worded the point was trying to make very well, my bad. You guys all think i am a bad guy but I am really not. I am a huge Hawks fan and have been for decades and i want nothing more than this team to win. In my humble opinion, I think they need to give Niemi more playing time to see what he can bring. I don’t hate Huet, I just find him very aggravating and not probably not the best goalie on this team.
by Esquire02 on Jan 10, 2010 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t insulted, you’ll know when I am, and I never said that you were a bad guy. I’d drink beer with a bad guy, but I wouldn’t respond to him. I just don’t think that the Hawks should be moving personel around when the normal result of a game is a win.
Okay, let me be clear, I DO think the Hawks should move Barker, but I don’t consider him to really be a player.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 5:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Huet can improve
Did you miss the beginning of the season? Take those games out and I’d guess his stats improve because he’s improved a LOT since then.
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2010 Troll Collector
by Trixietrx on Jan 10, 2010 5:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Eddie O- Player of the game...really?
Maybe he did help the Mild when he did his “HEY ABBOTT” after Ebbett set up the second goal. Q summed it up really well by saying that the Wild got very few chances in the 3rd and the ones that they got counted. Q likes the way they played up to that point and said that alot can be learned from not letting up on the pedal.
Victim was found murdered by a Chelsea Dagger.
by pucknut on Jan 10, 2010 10:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Man there's alot of anger here wow
Some of you hueylovers need to get back on your meds
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 10:25 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Its going to be okay.
always accusin' me of some bullshit
when im jus' tryin to have a good time.
by chrome on Jan 10, 2010 10:28 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I stopped breathing
About 200 comments in.
Welcome to the Glibert Arenas Gun Show.
by AirTrafficAJ on Jan 10, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Its going to be okay.
Just please beat the Mighty F**KS of Analheim tonight.
Victim was found murdered by a Chelsea Dagger.
by pucknut on Jan 10, 2010 10:32 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Amen pucknut
There ya go oh and start Niemi pls LOL hehehe
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 10:33 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Ok we done here
Everone taken their shots?? Wow Hope ya dont mind if I come back sometime? remeber like it or not we’re rooting for the same thing just with different ideas
Ok everyone sing Kumbaya
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 10:35 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
New line of logic
because I’d like to see how this one gets completely missed out there.
Joel Quenneville’s job is to put the best available lineup on the ice for the Blackhawks. It’s probably worth assuming that he’s done pretty well at this, as he’s won over 500 games and only coached teams that missed the playoffs 2 times. (My source is Wikipedia but it’s legitimate. It doesn’t have his stats for this season but you know how he’s doing, I would hope.)
To be a coach for that long, you probably have to have a pretty good grasp of what level of talent your players have and who is the best choice to have on the ice. So how does big Q feel about our goaltending situation?
Niemi is last in the league in games started.
Q, who I would imagine knows more about hockey than any of us here, you know, because it’s his job, apparently sees something in Niemi’s game that causes him to keep the Finnish Fortress on the bench more than any other goalie in the league.
So quit telling Q how to do his job, or he’ll come by McDonalds and tell you how to do yours.
by hawksfan21 on Jan 10, 2010 10:36 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
yeah but...
Q has never won a Cup either. (FIRE HIM!)
by chiblackhawks on Jan 10, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
again another overreaction from a pointless commentator
Your letting your huey love blind you again
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
ed8, I wish that you would spend more time on this board so that you could understand the sarcastic posting style of such regulars as chiblackhawks. then, maybe you wouldn’t overreact to his obvious joke.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
by meeshak on Jan 10, 2010 4:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
“his” obvious joke? Pretty sure Chiblackhawks is one of the ladies here at SCH. Maybe if you visited more you’d know that!
/kidding
by hawksfan21 on Jan 11, 2010 8:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
i live in a post-gender world
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
by meeshak on Jan 11, 2010 11:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
That
is a wonderful post.
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on Jan 12, 2010 11:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
or stop your unemployment checks LOL
Didn’t the Hawks promise Huey the starting job when they signed him then asked him to defer until this year. I don’t blame him for giving Huet an opportunity to be #1 but a good coach also knows when to change gears. Do you really think that whatever the coacch says thats it . They sign a guy $5 mil a year and sit him all year. They have to give him a shot I get it but now he’s hurting this team whi is poised to win it all. Cut bait I think Coach Q is great but I also know that opportunities like this are very very rare Make the change
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Please go away
Sooner rather than later
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
why because I disagree?
You really should make this clear that Huey criticism will not be tolerated
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Fools should never be suffered gladly.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 10:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Criticism is fine
But over reaction will not be tolerated
Top 2 in NHL (Hawks) What more do we want? You cannot and will not win every game.
Huet is not physically lazy. Mentally, he has some real lapses.
Last night Huet saw under 25 shots. Hawks should win any time the goalie doesn’t see more than 25 shots. Well, they didn’t win. I’ll bet Toews is hiding under his covers, and wishes he finished College.
I’m enjoying it. You should try to enjoy this as well. It doesn’t happen very often.
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Im impressed that you needed wikipedia to respond
no really I want you to feel you’re doin well keep trying
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
That would be a silly little thing called, “research” try it, it’s fun!
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
oh research so this research tells you that
Hueys worth every penny I can see how that would be fun
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 10:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Look
It
Up
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 10:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd
Can’t wait for Ed8 and Esquire.
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 10:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Reply fail
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 10:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes you just wanna shoot Huey
…4 goals on 7 shots in 3rd- you better believe that’s a pant-crapping.
Now #25 in the NHL in SV%.
For a team that is at the very top of the NHL in virtually every other aspect of the game, average (and especially non-clutch) goaltending is an aggravating sore spot. If Huey stops a meh angle shot he sees all the way with 90 seconds left, all is forgiven. But he f-ing didn’t.
Our guys are our guys, no GMing here, but damn I hope we see some better mental toughness out of this position pretty soon.
by cliffkoroll on Jan 10, 2010 10:58 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Or if one of the six Hawks score on the shootout
then all is forgiven. Or if Versteeg scores in overtime, all is forgiven then too.
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Jan 10, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, it was supposed to be Maddens turn to score.
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 11:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Please Please Please!
Nobody ever have any kind of shit such as that lemon crap org fuck that “appeared” here last night!
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jan 10, 2010 11:06 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Next time heed my multiple warnings. You have only yourself to blame.
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by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
The warnings were like telling a kid not to touch a hot stove!
Still mortified
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jan 10, 2010 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I had to go to emergency
Because I put my toungue on the stove last night even though Thor told me not to
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by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sucker,
You feel for the patented mjthor jedi mind fuck.
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 11:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Do Huet haters ever watch other goalies?
This Huet hating makes no sense. Just a few days ago, the Hawks chased Vezina-trophy winner and Olympian Tim Thomas and a few weeks ago scored 5 goals on Martin Brodeur, who some people think is the greatest goalie of all time. According to the Huet haters, these guys suck too. Sorry to say, but the 5 goals against Huet had more to do with 1) luck and 2) the play in front of him than they had to do with Huet.
by maxachium27 on Jan 10, 2010 11:06 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to the blog.
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
At this point...
…I’m almost equally annoyed by Huey-haters and knee-jerk defenders. The strawman argument advanced here is not what thoughtful critics of Huey are saying.
The thing is approaching Cubs/Sox levels of inanity. Yes, this way lieth madness. So, I withdraw with these final thoughts on the subject:
1. Huey and Niemi are our guys, period. You boo at the UC, I kill you!
2. The Hakws can definitely win the Cup with these guys.
3. If the Hawks don’t wn the Cup, I won’t be surprised if goaltending is the reason.
by cliffkoroll on Jan 10, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You boo at the UC, I kill you!
Nice Jeff Dunham refrence!
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'll disagree
and say I’m still more annoyed by Huet-haters.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jan 10, 2010 11:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait a minute, you mean that Sox and Cubs fans don't get along?
Just ignore me, i’m not really here and I did not just say that.
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by pucknut on Jan 10, 2010 1:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with the Cuban's nautical vessel.
The huet-haters are still more annoying, although the gap has narrowed.
However, I’m with you on everything else.
always accusin' me of some bullshit
when im jus' tryin to have a good time.
by chrome on Jan 10, 2010 2:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not only do I watch other goalies...
I would like nothing more than to see Huet play great and have a great season and see everyone embrace him as the Blackhwks goalie…however as a former goaltender myself he frustrates the hell out of me with what seems to be a very unconventional goaltending style and his inability to maintain focus and concentration throughout a game. Every goalie is going to let in a bad goal from time to time and certainly not win every game, but when you have the best team defense in the NHL in front of you and you still let in soft goals frequently, it starts to raise the bar for concern. The bottom line is whether or not Huey can WIN a game for you when you need it as a team…will he WIN a game come the playoffs in a tight battle? I hope he proves me wrong but I dont think so…just my opinion.
by Hockey Player 31 on Jan 10, 2010 11:24 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
WIN a game in the playoffs?
Any NHL goalie is capable of doing that. In fact, he’s already done it . The handwringing of whether he can do it is rather silly. Khabibulin won exactly one game for the Hawks (Game 6 against Calgary) last year in the playoffs and you could argue Huet played well enough to steal Game 5 of WCF.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jan 10, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Huet was out of his fucking mind in Game 5.
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by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn,
we should have traded him then.
/Note evil sarcastic laughter in the background.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now if you're worried that he'll LOSE a game for you in the playoffs
then there’s nothing anyone can say to make you feel better about that. Then again, fans of all 16 playoff teams should be concerned about their goalies laying an egg.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jan 10, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, remember game 5 of the Stanley Cup Finals, when Fleury cost the Pens the Cup for the second year in a row?
Oh, wait. I forgot about Fleury in game 7. Shit damn.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
by meeshak on Jan 10, 2010 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually there is nothing unconventional...
about his goaltending style at all. He is a straight up butterfly goaltender, he lives and dies with it. Ryan Miller, Martin Brodeur, Tim Thomas, those are just a few of your “unconventional” goaltenders, hybrids actually.
"All very successful commanders are prima donnas and must be so treated." George S. Patton
by Hawkswordofdeath on Jan 10, 2010 2:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Blackhawks...Lesson(s) learned against the Wild
The loss for the Blackhawks Saturday night agaisnt the Minnesota Wild should prove to be a good lesson for the Hawks and an opportunity to further mature as a team as they continue to"skate" to the playoffs as a top seed in 2010.
Eddie O commented during the intermission about the Blackhawks ability to put teams away and that “killer” instinct they now have as a team versus previous years. I do agree with Eddie, the Blackhawks have certainly matured as a team and have demonstrated that “killer” instinct at times but perhaps allowed a little overconfidence and their recent success to cloud that need for a “killer” instinct Saturday night. While this "killer"instinct at times goes into a lapse I do not believe it will hinder them come the playoffs. The team seems to play very loose and without pressure, perhaps due to their youth and team chemistry not to mention their superior puck handling and skating skills to most other teams in the NHL.
My concern for the Blackhawks in winning the 2010 Stanley Cup and while I believe they are one of the most exciting and skilled hockey teams I have seen since a kid is their starting Goaltending. While I mentioned earlier that the Team seems to lapse that “killer” instinct at times I feel Cristobal Huet often demonstrates a lapse in concentration and focus not just on occassional lapse. Last night on the second goal against the Blackhawks, Huet insisted on staying on his knees throughout the entire play, from the time the Wild player went behind the net to the the time it was played in front of the net. Huet was caught off guard and not in a position to make the save which should have been somewhat routine. The 5th goal was anothe loss of focus where somehow the puck was shot right at him and managed to get through him into the net. Huet has shown times where he has played with pure brilliance, but more times then not their are minimal scoring chances per game and without looking at stats I am willing to bet that the Blackhawks (the best team defense in the NHL) surrender the fewest shots and fewest scoring chances in the NHL. So lets not get clouded by the GAA and Save % of Huet. Huet in my opinion is a back up goaltender at best and not a starting goaltender who is going to WIN a game for you when you need it….if Huet continues to be the main goaltender for the Hawks going into the playoffs…look towards 2011 for the Stanley Cup. Going foward I would like to see more of Niemi as he seems to have that ability to hang tough during tight games and shut the door when the Hawks need it most. Plus Niemi has youth!
I am not saying sit Huet the remainder of the season but play him enough to keep Niemi fresh, perhaps split the games between Huet and Niemi going forward, but I do ask that Hawks management and Joel Q take a real hard look at who the starting goaltender is come the playoffs! Eddie O keep up the GREAT work on the color commentary!
Jim O
by Hockey Player 31 on Jan 10, 2010 11:09 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Holy shit. We have another hawks61 on our hands.
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by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
What the hell is a Hawks 61?
by Hockey Player 31 on Jan 10, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A regular here whose posts are characteristically longwinded.
Don’t worry about it.
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by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly. Hockey Player 31, are you Canadian?
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
by meeshak on Jan 10, 2010 4:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to the blog, and while I respect your opinion, I don’t necessarily agree with it.
Eddie O keep up the GREAT work on the color commentary!
Have you tried the Eddie-O drinking game? Blasted by the middle of the second period.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Eddie O keep up the GREAT work on the color commentary!
Thats what a Blog is for….to offer up different opinions…right?
by Hockey Player 31 on Jan 10, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.
He didn’t challenge that, just stated that didn’t agree with you.
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by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn’t differing with it, I happen to agree, I was just wondering if you had seen the game before since you are a new poster.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
New poster
I am assuming you are referring to the Bruins game which I did watch…their aren’t too many I miss. What I liked in that game was the way the Hawks shut the Bruins down after 2 quick goals, but also like the way Niemi regained his focus and made some big saves to keep the door closed on the Bruins.
by Hockey Player 31 on Jan 10, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, he's referring to the aforementioned Eddie O Bingo/drinking game(s).
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by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My fault,
I was unclear. This happens an unfortunate amount of times.
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It's okay.
We forgive you.
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by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 11:30 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now I have seen it all, mjthor being forgiving? Is black white? Is Coors lite good? (did I just go too far?)
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 11:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When does Huet start earning his money
The other guys have won vezinas and won many many games when their teams were flat . When does huet start doing that. Thats the point. The window of opportunity is critical because this is the year the hawks talent is pekaing if he’s ordinary he hurts us bigtime this year and his salary hurts us into the future. Trade this great goalie (sarcasm) now
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 11:10 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
By your own admission, Huet has never been a starting goalie. When would he have had a shot at the vezinas?
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh... I almost forgot
/sigh
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by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh no am I out of the club now ??
You guys keep shaving each others backs and let me know if you want to have a real conversation K
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 11:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He asked you a legitimate question, and that's how you respond?
And you wonder why you’re getting the responses you’re getting.
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by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
/sigh
I want to have a real conversation.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Never a starting
goalie and in his mid-30s….that is all anyone needs to know….
by Esquire02 on Jan 10, 2010 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Anti-Huet gets his chance tonight
Hang on to your Niemi blow up doll.
Ducks are not good, but Getzlaf, Perry, and Ryan can shoot it.
For all our sake, I hope Niami brings his A game. Not what I saw against Nashville.
I will be pulling for him, as always
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by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 2:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that was 2 goals and then lock down by Neimi
…Huet was 1 then 2 then 3 then 4 and then……hey!!are you guys following me??….5
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
by ccm on Jan 10, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's trade him
For Toskala, Ward, Roloson, Steve Mason, or Biron
At least they don’t suck…………..And they were/are starting goalies
Those are probably the options.
Huet – Niemi gets it done.
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by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Since when does age matter?
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by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
To old to play in the sandbox?
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 2:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously?
you can’t be that slow….I think that is self-explanatory.
by Esquire02 on Jan 10, 2010 2:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I must be that slow, since I'm failing to see how his being 33 years old has anything to do with his goaltending ability.
Since it’s so simple, why don’t you just explain it?
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by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I did here somewhere in response to someone else, I'm sure you can find it.
by Esquire02 on Jan 10, 2010 2:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Is this the post you're talking about?
http://www.secondcityhockey.com/2010/1/9/1243333/wait-scoring-5-goals-isnt-an#28582152
Because you make a rather valid argument that, because Niemi is younger, he has more potential playing time left in his career. However, you still do not make any connection between Huet’s age and his playing ability.
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by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 2:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not more potential playing time
More potential to develop and be a better goalie, younger, quicker, more time to develop, Huet will not get any better than he is now and he will physically begin to decline at this age…athletes in sports of quick reflex, strength and agility based sports reach their physical peak in their late 20s.
by Esquire02 on Jan 10, 2010 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s time to trade Toews, he is past his prime!
/sarcasm
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 5:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hammer save inexcusable
Huet too ofter reacts like he did during that save that hammer made. One swat at it thenoh well. He wasnt even trying to get back in the play Inexcusable
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 11:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Please learn to complete a thought before mashing the POST button over and over.
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by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Learn to complete a thought before hitting the POST button, you must.
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by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Love it.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I hesitate to use this
You are turning into a Douchebag. Please stop.
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and I sooooo wanted you to like me
Let me ask you douchebag is that what happens here or did I just happen to wander in on a good day. IF YOU DONT LIKE SOMEONES OPINION YOU HAVE 2 OPTIONS ignore it or respond with the understanding they may respond.
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I am insulting you so you will go away
Please go away.
OR say something that you have not said 50+ times
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Insults from you are relative to the insulter
which means that if Im nothing like you Im good with that so err umm strangely I guess I should thank you LOl
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
When are you leaving?
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 11:27 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously?
I’ve wasted half the morning wading through your inane comments. Half of them don’t even relate to hockey. Whatever merit any of your arguments may have had has been totally lost with your childish behavior. So yeah, go away…
by JKline3 on Jan 10, 2010 11:32 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
50 times in response to dopes like you saying
OH YEAH OH YEAH well you havent explained to ME blah blah blah. Blame your dyslexia not my repitition
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You started out OK
But it seems like when we questioned how you were going to achieve what you want, you went all 12 year old on us and resorted to name calling.
I can’t even comment on most of the goals last night. Thanks to thor I missed the Hammer save, thanks to Hubby not cooking dinner for me I missed the Wild’s 1st 3 goals in the 3rd.
And thanks to the Huet haters, I stayed up way past my bedtime and now I’m just fucking tired.
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by Trixietrx on Jan 10, 2010 1:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The more the merrier!
Directed at Ed8 not you
Be cool.
Say intelligent things like Douchebag (at the correct time)
Curse the other team.
Detroit Sucks
Fuck St. Louis
Kane is Lazy
Did I leave anything out
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by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sopel’s ugly?
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 1:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot
Kopecky fell down
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 1:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh... I almost forgot
You forgot the Spin-O-Rama
and “all you kids out there”
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 1:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Trade Barker
that’s one of my favorites, you know.
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by Trixietrx on Jan 10, 2010 5:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Low blow, man. I certainly have better things to do, I just don't do them.
But even I have my limits, and this thread is already neck deep in WHARRGARBL.
And to the Huet critics:
It’s not that criticism of Huet isn’t welcome here, it’s that your arguments are awful, we’ve heard it dozens of times before, and another one of you whackjobs comes creeping out the woodwork nearly every game. That, and, nearly every time a Huet critic is challenged, they resort to petty namecalling. (Granted, the regulars here are pretty quick to jump on Huet critics, but that’s because it’s like a broken Miley Cyrus record being played against our will at 4am while someone is simultaneously punching us in the face repeatedly.)
Here is my sage advice for anyone who wishes to criticize Huet on this blog:
1. Come up with some good, well-supported arguments. The fact that you’ve been watching hockey for 52 years does not make for a good premise.
2. Don’t be a dick. People are going to disagree with you; get used to it. You’re not going to convince anyone by telling them they smell bad.
3. Realize that you’re fighting an uphill battle. The majority of people here don’t agree with you, and unless you come in with some fresh, original arguments, you’re not going to convince anyone of anything.
Really, just take a cue from this guy. He’s doing it right.
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by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 11:25 AM CST reply actions 5 recs
Thank you Master
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 11:26 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
droppin nawlledge.
always accusin' me of some bullshit
when im jus' tryin to have a good time.
by chrome on Jan 10, 2010 2:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you a teacher?
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
by meeshak on Jan 10, 2010 4:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Convice has nothing to do with it
So lets see,accept the insults, and the insults were directed here first, which is fine but the people here cry when you respond. I came here merely because this is the Yahoo sponsored thread for Hawk fans and expressed a negative opinion of Huet and the board lights up. again which is fine but now the huet lovers say well we can insult you but you cant recipricate. Yeah right grow another skin or set of cajones where apropriate amd quit whining. Its apparent to me there are a few reasonable hawks fans here that would like to discuss which is fine but there appears to be a clique here that think what they say goes. Then when they cant resspond they say hey man its only sarcasm or they retreat to a higher thread and hide in another scroll to drop insults. again fine by me but sound like detroit fans to me
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 11:33 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Then when they cant resspond they say hey man its only sarcasm
Or maybe offer insincere apologies?
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, I forgot it again!
/sigh
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You've gotten plenty of reasonable responses that have requested a dialogue with you, yet you keep responding with the same thing.
Try answering some of the questions people ask you instead of hurling insults at them.
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by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
what like 50 more times lol
what is it you need to know mj or do you need to throw more insults and duck and cover first like the rest of your clique
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't asked you anything or insulted you; I'm just offering you some advice on how to interact with people on the internet.
You continually voice this desire for a “real conversation,” but you’ve shown no interest in listening to what other people have to say. Sorry, but that’s not how a conversation works, and you’re going to get blasted on ANY blog if you bring in a controversial opinion and then fail to consider the opposition’s point of view.
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by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
actually thats not true
unless your idea of real conversation is you talk and we listen. The majority of my posts are in response to questioning my position. Getting blasted is irrelevant actually the interaction is pretty amusing. People keep asking for responses and then saying well say something else yeah sure
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 11:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know why I even bothered.
Enjoy your time here.
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by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 11:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey!
I just realized, I have been called part of a clique! I was only part of the band geeks in high school, so I am truly moving up in the world now. Now I am grouped with the guy that knows great beer! Yea me!
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
/sigh
I want to have a conversation.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yahoo! is the bane of my SCH/SBN existence.
Have a good Sunday, everyone.
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by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 11:39 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
please tell me that this blog goes deeper than the Huet Lovers
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 11:43 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The human head weighs 8 pounds.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jan 10, 2010 11:45 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I literally lol'd
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by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 11:46 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
/sigh
Even the Grinch recanted.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 11:49 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and this would be a good opportunity for you to do so chili
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A cat has 32 muscles in each ear.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jan 10, 2010 11:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Your trivia knowledge has now increased my knowledge.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sopel sighting!
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Sopel The Goon…….looks disturbingly like him.
by G8K33P3R on Jan 10, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t that from Popyee?
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Uhhh...
Popeye.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I likes Popeye so much that I even bought the Robin Williams version. Then I watched it.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Skille was just recalled.
I have no idea why.
by Original Six on Jan 10, 2010 11:55 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thats weird. Trade showcase?
"so once again, Ive been had"
by HjammerTime on Jan 10, 2010 12:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not so sure.
I think all teams have AHL scouts and if they were interested, they’d see him there in top line minutes instead of the usual 4 min quickie he gets with the big boys. Plus, I didn’t think he could fit under the cap, which leads me to believe someone could be hurt. I didn’t notice anything last night, but I guess we’ll find out in a few hours.
by Original Six on Jan 10, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Im not sure at all. Just wondering how he could be up. I was under the impression the Hawks had made up their mind on him and that he was a no go. Maybe I just read Sassone too much.
Lets pray nobody is hurt.
"so once again, Ive been had"
by HjammerTime on Jan 10, 2010 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Could be someone is banged up
or they could be at the point of the season where his pro-rated cap hit now fits under the total cap. Not sure if that’s totally feasible but could be it.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jan 10, 2010 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully no injuries
Or maybe Q thinks the forwards were the cause of last nights loss
Kane was-2 you know.
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok well Lunch time kids
sure has been fun Thanks to all who played Please don’t let the huet lovers in the circle jerk clique ruin the site adios Go Hawks
by ed8 on Jan 10, 2010 11:56 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
... and nothing of value was lost.
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NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Damnit mjthor! now I have to clean the coffee off of my keybaord!
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 12:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
/sigh
What about the Barker hater clique? Or the Buff hater clique? Or the sky is falling clique? Should we worry about them ruining the site that you have been a part of for all of TODAY?
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 12:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a member of
Hating when the Blackhawks blow a 4 point lead clique
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 12:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Some day I hope to be cool enough to join.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hurl some insults my way and you are in
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, like Madsults?
My (insert inane noun) is better than your (insert different inane noun)!
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 12:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
In the words of The Joker (almost)
“This Blog needs an enima”
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 12:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"This Blog needs an enima"
But then all the Shit would go down the drain!
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Plenty more shit
Will magically appear
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by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know,
I believe that some posters have been repeated requested to injest feacl matter, and then they refuse! Just not team players.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
There is another game tonight!
I’m putting the foil on now.
As soon as my kid’s game is done, I’ll be on.
I’ve got a goalie and a defenseman (or defenceman). They have interesting post game discussions as well. Like the defenseman thinks he is Brian Campbell. The goalie never makes a mistake either. He sucks!
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Being in that group
Is like being in the NWO in 1998. It was weirder if you weren’t a member.
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by AirTrafficAJ on Jan 10, 2010 1:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Can you really not understand...
…by reading the other posts here why you come off as someone with nothing to offer? Do you even value your on words, you throw them around like a crackhead playing the Grand Prize Game.
"All very successful commanders are prima donnas and must be so treated." George S. Patton
by Hawkswordofdeath on Jan 10, 2010 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Great News!!!
Sopel between the p[ipes tonight
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
by ccm on Jan 10, 2010 12:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I approve of this move, based on nothing resembling a logical premise what so ever.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 12:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Now that the mean guy is gone
What should we talk about?
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 12:16 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
New Holland Beer
Have any of you tried Dragon’s Milk?
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 12:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
No, is it any good? I mean I have tried Dragons Fire, which is a hot sause out of Texas.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 12:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't knoiw that is why I asked
I like Full Circle (New Holland)
Don’t like Sundog though
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by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 12:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I tend towards the Wissens and the Heffewissens. I normally don’t like beers that approach Stout, but some of them are not bad. I try to drink at least one local when I travel, but that hasn’t happened for awhile now.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
You live in Holland?
I went to Hope, but don’t hold it against me.
by HungryHungryPanda on Jan 10, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hope
Plays good hockey nowadays.
Better than Calvin
State myself
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by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 1:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Quite crypttic
Hope has a fairly good hockey team
I like Hope better than Calvin (for no particular reason)
I went to Michigan State (a long time ago)
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I turned down Hope for a colder climate.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
by meeshak on Jan 10, 2010 5:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lake Superior State?
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 11, 2010 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just wanna say
The bajillion posts debating Huet from last nights thread into today’s has been quite mind numbing. Takes alot of fortitude to read 1000+ posts of meaningless nonsense and (mostly) uninformed gibberish. I applaud myself.
That is all.
by Hawk4Eva on Jan 10, 2010 12:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You went through all of that and came out coherent. You deserve the applause.
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 12:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My head hurts
Since I am doing the same. Why do we do this?
wait what?
by pepe126 on Jan 12, 2010 2:41 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Because I don't think anyone can actually be THAT stupid,
I’d like to point out that ed8 joined On The Forecheck in March. Never made any comments, but I’d venture a guess that he’s a lurking, bitter, jealous Preds fan.
by Original Six on Jan 10, 2010 12:37 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Came back to check what was going on
with the Huet loving circle jerk.
I appreciate all the keyboard pounding all regular posters do. I don’t post too often but I am a pretty loyal reader. Thanks for providing a little entertainment and a lot of good sense to this Blackhawk hockey world.
"...about six feet from the moose's butt."
by The Fearless Freep on Jan 10, 2010 12:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Freep
Is that Detroit Free Press?
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
SOMEONE is certainly bitter about all the injuries.
by Original Six on Jan 10, 2010 12:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
It’s in reference to a Bugs Bunny/Yosemite Sam cartoon. Bugs poses as a circus side show barker promoting a high wire act led by a character named Fearless Freep. Yosemite Sam is the disgruntled customer/receiver of constant abuse.
"...about six feet from the moose's butt."
by The Fearless Freep on Jan 10, 2010 12:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Cartoon reference
Nice!
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 12:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
but I did know that the detroit free press uses freep as their domain name. They stole it from warner bros.
"...about six feet from the moose's butt."
by The Fearless Freep on Jan 10, 2010 12:54 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
They are a bunch of Maroons
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 12:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
What an im-bull-cile. What a nin-cow-poop.
"...about six feet from the moose's butt."
by The Fearless Freep on Jan 10, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
"Freep" and "freeper" are pejoratives on FARK Politics for freerepublic.com and the people who post there.
It’s about as far right as you can get without joining a white nationalist group.
I’m glad you’re not associated with them, either.
Awards: Second City Hockey Biggest Loser of 2009
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 2:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
09-10 compared to 08-09
46 wins total
Khabby in net
Pahlsson Havlat Bolland
31 wins by Jan10
Huet in net
Madden Hossa Kopecky
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 1:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This has to be a record
For a non-gameday thread. Unfortunately, if you filter out all the ed8 posts and the subsequent virtual facepalms, the comments number goes down to about 14.
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by AirTrafficAJ on Jan 10, 2010 1:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Now 15! lmao
SHOOOOOOOT!!!! Anon
by burpchelischili on Jan 10, 2010 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
It is a gameday
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
But not a gameday thread
Awards: Second City Hockey Biggest Loser of 2009
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 2:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
semantics
Gameday is Gameday
Do you have a feed yet?
Relax it’s a joke.
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Jan 10, 2010 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I just posted four of them in the actual gameday thread!
Awards: Second City Hockey Biggest Loser of 2009
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by mjthor on Jan 10, 2010 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Jesse Rogers on Skille getting recalled:
There was some indication a forward, possibly Kris Versteeg, was injured in Saturday’s night 6-5 shootout loss in Minnesota. No official word on who Skille would replace in the lineup.
by chiblackhawks on Jan 10, 2010 2:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Is he starting in goal?
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
by ccm on Jan 10, 2010 2:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Wait for it.....
Still not funny.
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by AirTrafficAJ on Jan 10, 2010 5:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hadn't had time to Read 418 posts, but...
Mike Russo also thinks it’s Very Weird that Havlat wasn’t used in the Shootout (and that’s there’s something else to this). He’s an excellent beat-writer up here in Mpls for the Wild and usually seeks out the real answers.
…but i guess we really don’t care much about Havlat anymore anyway…still weird
by WirtzGMnomore on Jan 10, 2010 3:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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