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Asleep and Dreaming: Predators 3 - Hawks 2

An unfortunately rare sighting - Stalberg on the ice.

With Soupy nursing a bum knee and Hammer nursing his bad timing, we knew this game was going to be a bit of an adventure and it lived up to most expectations.  Q wisely split up Marlboro 72 to even out the depth of the blue liners - leading to pairings of Leddy/Keith, Scott/Seabrook, and Boynton/Hendry. 

It was probably a good time for Keith and Biscuit to be split up anyway though.  Keith hasn't been great so far this year but Seabrook has been worse.  His positioning is off and his passing is suspect.  It's almost as if he thinks Keith got the Norris too easy and wants to make it harder on him this year.  Neither of these two were the cause of the defeat tonight though.. more on that later.

The game started off well enough - Kane buried a lightning quick wrister from the face-off dot after a good wrap around pass from Toews.  Former Hawk Steve Sullivan didn't wait long to tie the game though off a nice little scramble in front of the net on a 4 on 4 that led to Cal O'Reilly poking the puck out to Sullivan who was streaking across the net and had an easy top shelf shot above Crawford.

Hossa once again showed us why so many of us have a tingling feeling when he gets the puck late in the first.  Realizing he was alone deep in the Nashville zone he doubled back to allow linemates Kopecky and Toews to get into place.  Hossa fed his fellow Slovak beautifully down low and he immediately passed to the captain who was coming hard towards the net.  It seemed at first that the play was for naught as Toews' shot caught the lip of Lindback's pads and was only able to tickle in. 

The second period seemed mostly back and forth with Crawford really stepping up with some big saves... I would try to say more but The Whirlaway accidently scheduled their trivia night for the same time as tonight's game and I can't pass up a chance to test my collection of useless knowledge.  Sadly, my team came in second by 1.5 points to the whiners who argued for every point and i wasn't able to focus on the game either.  So it goes...

In the third it all fell apart.  The Hawks had trouble clearing the puck or starting their transition game and it came back to bite them.  Jack Skille and Viktor Stalberg, again arguably two of the better skaters for the Hawks, were on the ice for an early goal against by Colin Wilson.  Inexplicably, they were never heard from again.  They never stepped on the ice for the rest of the period.  A late delay of game penalty by Nick Boynton led to the demise as J.P. Dumont made a nice pass across the crease to find a wide open Joel Ward with less than 30 seconds.  Game. Set. Match.

Observations:

  • There are coaching questions galore in this one - few if any will actually be asked unfortunately.  The most glaring is the choice in starting goaltenders.  I have no problem with Crawford getting a good amount of starts - I think he's shown he can handle a good work load.  But back-to-back starts is questionable.  Making matters even worse - the Predators are a team we know with an aggressive forecheck.  We talked all summer about how Turco's puckhandling abilities could be a perfect antidote to the pressure we saw hurting the Hawks last year.  Why do you sit him when his game is perfectly suited to disrupting the Preds at their style?
  • Back to the Stalberg/Skille problem too - we've seen these guys skate their asses off in the three games beforehand and while they haven't found their way to the scoresheet yet they've hardly been a disappointment.  The Colin Wilson goal came off a play that was obviously set up perfectly by the Preds and still needed a deflection off Hendry's knee to find the back of the net.  The third line has been all motor this season - there was no reason to nail them to the bench. 
  • The Boynton penalty late really just crushes the Hawks - with Hammer gone already they're down to basically just Keith and Biscut for their normal penalty killers.  It would have been nice to see Keith and Seabrook split the two minutes with Scott, Hendry and Leddy splitting time... instead we saw a pairing of Hendry and Leddy on their own.  Hendry once again found a puck bouncing off him and J.P. Dumont picked it up - Leddy committed to the puck, leaving Ward wide open for the game winner. 
  • The Hawks were great at clearing the puck away from the net and out of the zone in the game against Buffalo - tonight... not so much.  It could be because the pairings were so screwy, it could be because the Hawks were off their game or it could be for some completely different reason.  Either way, it's a large reason the Hawks lost tonight. 
  • The Hawks only managed 4 shots in the third period and were pretty soundly outplayed for possibly the first time this year.  
  • Keith had his fourth straight game of 30+ minutes - I think Foley mentioned he only had 8 games all of last year where he went over half an hour.  It's still early but this is clearly something to watch. 
  • It's a goddamn shame that the Hossa/Kop/Toews goal had to come in a loss... that was far too pretty to be wasted in a game with no points. 
  • Speaking of TOI - Stalberg only had 7:46.  I know I mentioned it earlier... but I just don't get it.
  • Oh hey - I changed my screenname here on SBN again.  How many of you noticed until now?  My goal is to become the Prince, Artist, Artist Formerly Known as Prince, Prince logo.svg, Prince of SBN.

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Hmm...

Just got back from taking my dog for a walk and realized how odd it is that I’m complaining so much that the third line didn’t get more time…. such are the problems of Stanley Cup Champions I suppose.

Second City Hockey
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by Killion on Oct 14, 2010 12:15 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm still looking for good bar trivia around here in Columbus

used to fucking own in Aurora.. I envy you.

I dont get the Stalberg thing, watching him tonight, I was just thinking, it’s only a short amount of time before this guy pots two

Who own da Chiefs?
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing

by BigCSouthside on Oct 14, 2010 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm going to the game tomorrow

any recommendations on a place to eat/drink beforehand and a place to drink afterwards?

Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.

by Illini0509 on Oct 14, 2010 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know that there is a Brothers there and the Thurman Cafe is awesome, but I don’t know how close they are to the BJ’s arena.

My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.

by whiskeyboy on Oct 14, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

R-Bar

it’s a hockey bar, good prices, good beer, I’ll be there drinking my face off in my Kaner 3rd

Who own da Chiefs?
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing

by BigCSouthside on Oct 14, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

sweet

Do they serve food? If so, what time would you suggest getting there? I’m working from our Columbus office that day, probably till about 4 or so. I’ll stop by and say hello if I notice you.

Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.

by Illini0509 on Oct 14, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Random thoughts

Can anyone explain why in the Skille hardly saw the ice (did he even see it?) in the 3rd period? The guy has been busting his ass, laying people out and he gets rewarded by being benched? Matter of fact, he’s about the only one who has showed up for every game. I would say that for Bickell, too, but he was eh tonight.

SOMEONE PLEASE WAKE UP DAVID BOLLAND! THANK YOU!

I really didn’t understand the Leddy/Keith pairing. Talk about lacking physical play. I would have liked to see Keith/Boyton, Seabs/Leddy, Hendry/the guy selling beer in the 100s and Scott in standing room behind section 329.

Hossa is the scheeite.

by frictionjane on Oct 14, 2010 12:16 AM CDT reply actions  

I wish...

I wish we lived in a world where John Scott didn’t exist.

by ldengis on Oct 14, 2010 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bolland has been awful ...

I think his jack of all trades style can’t be the anchor to a line. Rather, he needs to be flying under the radar. Unless somebody can step up to get him enough room for his intangibles to affect the game, that entire third line will be neutralized.

by Billy Charlesbois on Oct 14, 2010 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Third line looked good......

When Q had Skille and Bickell with Boland. Wonder why………..

by frictionjane on Oct 14, 2010 1:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps he's like Big Buff...

Only has an impact in the post season.

And did you hear the Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup?

by TrickyDickAllen on Oct 14, 2010 4:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

a call for Bolland to move to the 4th line?

I like Bollie but he has been less than stellar aside from the playoffs. He looks so slow, it’s easily noticeable.

When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 7:09 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Anyone think that.....

maybe Bollie is having problems with his back again?

by frictionjane on Oct 14, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Man that would suck for him

Let’s hope he is getting used to his wingers.

Mickey Redmond sucks

by laaarmer on Oct 14, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope not too

However I just see Bollie as a slow starter. I’m willing to give him till November to pick up his game

by Jrs23 on Oct 14, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know who it was

But whoever said Q’s contract extension would go to his head a few weeks back was spot on. The guy is fucking it up as a coach. As much as I blame individual players for their mistakes, it’s mostly on Q as a coach to straighten out the lines and put the right players together. He’s been terrible so far. Players that deserve more ice time aren’t getting it, those that deserve less are getting top 6 minutes, he’s pairing up stay-at-home D-men with each other and as a result forcing the puck-moving D-men to be on the same line. It’s ridiculous.

by Ban on Oct 14, 2010 12:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Dude, chill a bit

He’s trying to figure out what he’s got, there was a ton of roster turnover this year, he has to mad scientist it up a bit.

My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.

by whiskeyboy on Oct 14, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

with both of you.

Unlike last season when most of the guys had at least a season of playing together, adding only a few new players, this season about half the team is new. It’s going to take some time for them to gel.

Q, well there I have no idea what the hell he is doing. I would think that someone that got an extension (read:security) would not be leaning on his vets so much to win early-season games. Jeez Q, it’s no good killing these guys now to get points (which isn’t happening anyways) so that when Feb/March rolls around they’re out of gas.

Against logic there is no armor like ignorance

by Johnny Lava on Oct 14, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

With all of the minutes being piled up by Keith and Seabrook

I’m beginning to wonder if starting Saturday, they should dress 7 D-Men. Hendry can split time between 4th line and fill in on some shifts on D.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on Oct 14, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Q doesn't trust him much now though.

I don’t know if he’d want to give him time at the expense of a forward.

by Katherine215 on Oct 14, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Disregarding the scenario I posted above

I think Q needs to start having a little faith in his players while Campbell is out. As every regular here knows, things aren’t going to be a bit ugly until he comes back.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on Oct 14, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Q and trust

How tight are the asses of the players right now? One mistake and you sit for the rest of the period/game. I’ve gotta imagine that when they get back on the ice they’re thinking “don’t fuck up, don’t fuck up” instead of just playing.

That type of mental pressure wears on people and negativley affects their performance.

Against logic there is no armor like ignorance

by Johnny Lava on Oct 14, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Reality check

New season! New guys, new team.

Q’s been fine so far. Fuck this shit of blaming the coach. The team has been decent considering what they’ve had to work with, with all the injuries and suspensions. He’s worked okay, and I trust his opinion over someone who probably hasn’t sat through all the practices and locker rooms and discussions that leads to building a team.

by spokeinthebandwagon on Oct 14, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kop!! No first liner...

I am not a fan of Kopecky on that first line!! It may be a unpopular opinion but i really dont like it at! Yes it has flashes of promise but we have not seen playoff kopecky and i dont think we are going to see him that much. He is to much of a liability out there! I really really think Skille or Bickell have earned a chance at playing up there! The puck is finding them and they are really working there ass off!! We on a roller coaster right now and we have to find some stability! Im only talking about the offense because the defense probably wont find any until soupy comes back. I dont no it just a thought!

by ChicagoWho?12 on Oct 14, 2010 12:57 AM CDT reply actions  

The guy is a whirlwind on skates ...

he’s the place where puck possession goes to die. He must have split time at hockey camp with clown college. This guy does more pratfalls than a Dick Van Dyke show marathon. He’s the hockey equivilent of a sloppy joe. This guy looks like he hasn’t sharpened his skates since Dynasty was on. This guy is a living PSA on why a professional hockey player shouldn’t do ecstacy before a game.

Hey, this is pretty fun, everybody should try it.

by Billy Charlesbois on Oct 14, 2010 1:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed!

I’ve been saying that all year! Keep hearing how Kopy is having a nice year, skating on a line with Hossa will do that. He’s benefitting from the Matt Cassell effect. Get this jackass off the first line and put him back on the fourth where he belongs! Even if you keep Taser and Hossa together, bring up Brouwer and put Bickell on the second line to protect Kaner.

And, still on my Skille soap box, move Skille up to the third line!!!!!!!!!

by frictionjane on Oct 14, 2010 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Matt Cassell is 3-1

and Skille’s already on the 3rd line…

by Katherine215 on Oct 14, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure Cassel hasn’t won a playoff game since high school, though. Not something we should try to emulate with the Hawks.

by Legendary on Oct 14, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

ackt pfft!

Dear lord, we’re comparing these 2 sports again? Cassel and the 10 other guys on the field with him don’t play defence. Kops and the 4 other guys in the ice with him do. And this:

I’m pretty sure Cassel hasn’t won a playoff game since high school, though. Not something we should try to emulate with the Hawks

well the Hawks did win 16 playoff games with Kops. I call your point BS.

Please, give this team a month before getting too concerned about their overall play.

Against logic there is no armor like ignorance

by Johnny Lava on Oct 14, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Uh, fuck that shit.

Different sport, no comparison. Come back with actual hockey players, then maybe we can talk sports.

by spokeinthebandwagon on Oct 14, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

you guys finished with the Kopecky hate for now?

Can I mention something good he did last night? How about that assist on the Toews goal? What a nice fucking pass.

‽ ⅋ ‽

by K_Dog on Oct 14, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

that was a beautiful pass

it was a passing clinic put on by all three together

happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!

by puppetmasterp on Oct 14, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm glas someone noticed this too

I mean, he does have an assist streak going, and while I’m sure playing with Hossa makes this easier, it’s still pretty impressive.

My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.

by whiskeyboy on Oct 14, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

First off

Just wanted to say that the guy sitting next to me in 330 had the coolest fucking kid in the world. He (the kid) told us he was 5 and he knew all the players, which is more to say than most people at the game…

Anyways, first period they looked great, and they had a lot of good, solid, pressure throughout long stretches in the game. I think it was in the second where they had a minute plus in the Nashville zone and the Preds dumped it for an ice.

Secondly, can we try and bring back some of the lines from last year that worked well…

Kane/Towes/Brow

Hossa/Sharp/Kop

Please? Also, on note with Kop, some guy was absolutely butchering his name.

And, lastly, the third was a disaster. I damn near bit of my hand in nervous anguish as I watched them unable to clear a puck or generate a reasonable attack. Oh well, though, it’s only October.

by BodomSlayer on Oct 14, 2010 1:00 AM CDT reply actions  

I agree

Daydream Nation with special guest Troy Brouwer, and Sharp and the Slovaks – top 2

Q, not so much agree. But, he’s an NHL lifer, and, well, I’m a mope…so what the fuck do I know?

Oh, and Nick Boinkin’…don’t shoot for the glass anymore, pal. Okay?

"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon

by HawkVision on Oct 14, 2010 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is it just me?

Seems like Yossarian has upped his defensive skills, although only seeing him play approximately 1 minute per game, it’s hard to tell.

And I thought til that last penalty Boynton was playing well. Scott seems pretty useless.

I think Leddy’s improving, but not enough to play with the big boys.

And yes, more Stalberg please.

The sun never sets on a badass

by Trixietrx on Oct 14, 2010 1:12 AM CDT reply actions  

SCH Bookie

Well, we’ve had the Scott game and now the Boynton game. I’m taking all bets on who’s going to provide the next unambiguously crystalized moment that becomes symbolic and inseperable with another dramatic, heartbreaking loss.

The line is looking like this: Hendry: 3-1, Leddy: 2-1, Crawford: 5-1, Stalberg: 12-1, Dowell 15-1, Skille 25-1

by Billy Charlesbois on Oct 14, 2010 1:23 AM CDT reply actions  

I'll bet on Skille

Number one sign of a crappy goaltender: he keeps telling the Goal Judge to "Get ready!"

by stacie7 on Oct 14, 2010 2:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'l take bets on

Scott game part deux

When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 7:11 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

On a lighter note...

Has anyone seen Terriers on FX? The show is GOOD. Started off slow but each episode has been getting better and better and the last one…wow. That was awesome.

by Ban on Oct 14, 2010 3:03 AM CDT reply actions  

Damn it got good?

I only watched one episode and quit because I was pretty bored with it. Maybe I can catch it on Hulu.

Number one sign of a crappy goaltender: he keeps telling the Goal Judge to "Get ready!"

by stacie7 on Oct 14, 2010 3:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well

I thought the first episode was mediocre. Britt was supposed to be the “comic relief” but I found him to be more lame and corny than anything else. The story didn’t do much to entice until the end, when I thought the show had a chance. Watched the second episode and was more impressed. Gave the 3rd a shot and it was even better. It keeps getting better and better IMO and Donal Logue is doing a damn good job (then again, I’ve never really been disappointed by him). The last episode was amazing. I’m disappointed I have to wait a whole week to see the next installment.

Obviously not everyone will like the series, but as far as I’m concerned, it’s one of the better shows out there.

BTW, Hulu does have all of the episodes for at least 5 more days. For anyone that decides to watch the show, give it until the end of episode 2 before you judge.

by Ban on Oct 14, 2010 3:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wanted to watch it because of Donal Logue

I love him as an actor. I’ll give it another shot.

Number one sign of a crappy goaltender: he keeps telling the Goal Judge to "Get ready!"

by stacie7 on Oct 14, 2010 3:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Have it on DVR

Still 2 episodes behind but so far I’ve enjoyed it

by Jrs23 on Oct 14, 2010 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I started watching it only because of Logue

I’ll watch just about anything he’s in. I don’t know why – he just seems like a cool guy. And Terriers is a lot better than Knights of Prosperity, though that show had promise. I haven’t watched much this fall but Terriers is definitely my favorite new show so far.

by wallrock on Oct 14, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

i miss F/X

Damn you DishNetwork!!! Only one more day though, tomorrow I get my shiny new cable/interweb provider.

Against logic there is no armor like ignorance

by Johnny Lava on Oct 14, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was about to switch to Dish

But I’m not giving up my SAMCRO.

My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.

by whiskeyboy on Oct 14, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow...another one goal loss

Hope this isn’t goin to be the trend this season
I liked Boynton the entire game,and then he pulled that stunt out there,dumbass
at moments tonight the puck possession was there last night,reminded me a bit of last season….

still gonna give this team another 10-12 games before i choose to step out on to the ledge,if needed

by Special Agent Dale Cooper on Oct 14, 2010 3:13 AM CDT reply actions  

Agreed...

but it should have never come down to that penalty. We need more consistent oh-fense.

And did you hear the Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup?

by TrickyDickAllen on Oct 14, 2010 4:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't get what Q is thinking

But alas, he’s won a stanley cup and I have not.

Also IMO Brouwer was skating his ass off last night. Get him on one of the top two lines and stop wasting a 20+ goal scoring power forward on the bottom line.
Boynton was really impressing me up until that bonehead penalty.
I thought Seabs looked better compared to the first 3 games but that ain’t sayin much.
The John Scott experiment continues to piss me off as well. Hendry looked way more capable tonight than JS.

When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 7:06 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

agree on Brouwer skating his ass off

which leads to a new, unsubstantiated theory. Is it possible that Q sees Brouwer as a gifted athlete who (pure conjecture) is only going 80% in practice or something, and he’s trying to light a fire under the guy?

This thought occurred to me watching T-brow play last night.

We like our people.

by cliffkoroll on Oct 14, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have no idea.

If that’s the case I am sure Toews would get on his ass as he is the captain. I don’t see Brouwer as being a guy that loafs. But it may be possible, but then Q didn’t mind playing Buff a shit ton and Buff as we know loafs an awful lot.

Never mind the bombings, here's your six figures

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Congrats to the Preds

For playing the most boring style of hockey this side of Jacques Lemaire. Who needs sleep aids when you have the Center Ice package and a Preds game is on?

I'm not superstitious. I'm just a little stitious.

by AirTrafficAJ on Oct 14, 2010 7:11 AM CDT reply actions  

It's like watching Da Bears a few years ago

Run run run, hope to god the defense holds this 10 to 6 lead.

But the Preds do their thing well and by their thing I mean trap and lulling opponents into a sleep.

We should start referring to the Pred’s trap as the Trotz date rape drug.

When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 7:20 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Congrats to you....

for being a sore loser. We don’t have the $$$ to go out and buy a Cup only to watch the team implode because of poor cap management. Sooo glad hockey is back!!!

by PREDSFan615 on Oct 14, 2010 7:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

SOMEONE DROP THIS FOOL

that.was.so.original!
Hey I got my first look at our bright new banners we have hanging up in the rafters last night! it was sooo koool! LOLZ

"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"

by west_fulton on Oct 14, 2010 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

please

don’t feed the trolls

Second City Hockey
June 9, 2010

by Killion on Oct 14, 2010 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is funny

You can’t buy a cup.

S A L A R Y C A P

It will be the reason we don’t have 5 more cups this decade.

It is in place so cities that shouldn’t have a team and therefore don’t have any $$$ (as you say) can have one.

Mickey Redmond sucks

by laaarmer on Oct 14, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

And here I was praising Preds fans last year...

…for being really classy. Might have to amend that opinion…hmmm..

by Hjammered on Oct 14, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

most of them are

we can’t say we didn’t have any Hawks fans giving us bad names last year now can we?

Number one sign of a crappy goaltender: he keeps telling the Goal Judge to "Get ready!"

by stacie7 on Oct 14, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey look!

I caught me a troll!

I'm not superstitious. I'm just a little stitious.

by AirTrafficAJ on Oct 15, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

It wasn't Boynton's penalty

It was his play in the opposite corner that led to the desperation that caused him to send it out. Really Nick, don’t try to stick handle your way out of trouble on the PK with 2 minutes to go in a game. If you have to, eat it, but don’t stick handle down low and turn it over. You’ve been around long enough to know this.

Mickey Redmond sucks

by laaarmer on Oct 14, 2010 7:48 AM CDT reply actions  

One good thing

was we didn’t give up 30+ shots. Although it was against the not so mighty Preds offense but we were missing our whole second line D, so yeah.
And Crawf looks more than capable as a back-up.

Never mind the bombings, here's your six figures

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 8:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Good comment HBB

Missing Campbell and Hammer

Any team missing their entire 2nd D line is gonna have problems.

Kane scored, Toews scored. good signs. If only that pussy Hossa could do something besides skate with the puck.

Crawford is turning out to be an NHL goalie, and quickly.

Mickey Redmond sucks

by laaarmer on Oct 14, 2010 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha

Fucking Hossa, only an assist? What a chump. In all seriousness the guy is fun to watch.

I agree with you on Crawford, which is a good sign since Turco has a one year deal and is older.

Never mind the bombings, here's your six figures

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Niemi and Crawford

Belfour and Hasek?

One of em had to go, just like the Eagle and the Dominator.

Mickey Redmond sucks

by laaarmer on Oct 14, 2010 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll take that

I miss Eddie the Eagle, not because I am saying our goalies suck but more of a nostalgic thing.

Never mind the bombings, here's your six figures

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't miss him

I hope Crawford kicks ass because he has put his time in.

Turco too. Except for the fact that he went to UM, which I will overlook because he took a pay cut to come here and play, he has put his time in too.

Mickey Redmond sucks

by laaarmer on Oct 14, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey now

I love the maize and blue.

Never mind the bombings, here's your six figures

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

34-17

I love UM last week too.

GO STATE!

Mickey Redmond sucks

by laaarmer on Oct 14, 2010 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

The only good thing about State

is Dunc came from there, aside from that boo.

Michigan’s defense is atrocious.

Never mind the bombings, here's your six figures

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is true, the Wolverine D is all sorts of awful

But they still have the coolest uniform and fight song in the land.

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by whiskeyboy on Oct 14, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely.

Hail to the Victors

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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

It is too bad

That you almost never hear that fight song at their games though.

by Kev623 on Oct 14, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

What?

They’re piling up points this year, you hear it all the time

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by whiskeyboy on Oct 14, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

What a farce of a statement from the guy above.

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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 15, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are you Cuban?

“Red Dawn” reference for you young people

Mickey Redmond sucks

by laaarmer on Oct 14, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Reference Win!

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by whiskeyboy on Oct 14, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

My beef

was the limited shots we took. Preds had a 22 y/o nobody in net; we should have been bombarding him like he was fucking Dresden in February of 1945.

Our Cup.

by 334Rules on Oct 14, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice Slaughter House Five pull

Wow we’ve been on a literary tear here the last few weeks.

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by whiskeyboy on Oct 14, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

My observations from sec 321

Hawks looked great in the 1st period and most of the 2nd. They were outplayed in every part of the game in the 3rd!! They were out hustled and out worked all 20 mins! The Boynton penalty was terrible! How does a veteran take a penalty like that, in that situation??? Get well soon Soupy! The most shocking thing is that the duo of Scott and Seabs only gave up one goal! I am not too worried or hitting the panic button. Our D needs to play like we all know it can and we will be fine. The fact that they have been so bad and we are a couple bounces away from being 4-0 is encouraging! 3rd line needs to on the ice more! Skille and Stalberg have been great and will start showing up on the score sheet soon enough! On to Columbus to get 2 points on Friday!!

Hi Ogie. Buy you a soda after the game?

by VerJesus32 on Oct 14, 2010 8:20 AM CDT reply actions  

Scott and Seabs were both

+ in Corsi ratings, which is good but Scott worries me still.

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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Epic Punctuation!!!!

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by whiskeyboy on Oct 14, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

row 16

seats 1 and 2

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by VerJesus32 on Oct 14, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never thought I would look forward to......

Campbell’s return b/c of his defense. But, it’s early, here’s to hoping we can middle around .500 until we get settled.

by frictionjane on Oct 14, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

And we have our first convert!

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by whiskeyboy on Oct 14, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh and

the Corsi ratings are a bit shocking to me.

Biscuit had a good game. Stalberg, Skille, and Dowell as well. Get them more effin Ice time, please. By them I mean each guy except Seabs of course.

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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 8:20 AM CDT reply actions  

As good as Crawford was

I still am with you; why wasn’t Turco in net? Move the puck up the ice a little faster.

Henry was suitable as a 3rd d-man and hope that when hammer gets back we see Scott in the press box.

Also confused on the PK why Leddy and Hendry were out there instead of Keith or Seabs? It’s not like they haven’t logged enough minutes, what the hell is with 1 more?

by Jrs23 on Oct 14, 2010 8:25 AM CDT reply actions  

It's got to be for later in the season

You may need guys that can play when someone is hurt. Kind of like now, eh? And / or when keith, Seabrook, Campbell, or Hammer take a penalty. Lots of unknowns with Scott and Leddy. One of the others (the non top 4 D) will need to step up and be the PK machine the team needs to take some heat off Keith and Seabrook. Who is it going to be?

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by laaarmer on Oct 14, 2010 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it'll be either

Boynton or Hendry.

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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

ROLAIDS

The rolaids PK.

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by laaarmer on Oct 14, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Catfish, come back Catfish.

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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Boynton

Minus his dumbass penatly I thought played a pretty strong game. Moved the puck well, kept the puck in the offensive zone. The good was noticed but that fucking penalty just pissed me off

by Jrs23 on Oct 14, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was bad, dumb mistake

Move on. He has looked good thus far.

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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Move on meaning Boynton

Not you. Don’t want to sound rude.

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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

haha

Well I’ve already moved on. I’m looking forward to Friday. I’m sure Boynton has moved on and kicking himself in the ass and getting ready for Friday. It was stupid but it’s over with, can’t go back and change it.

Anyone think Scott will actually sit when Hammer comes back or will Hendry find himself back in the press box? Minus a few incontrolable plays where the puck bounced off him I thought he really moved the puck well, wasn’t bad in the defensive zone.

by Jrs23 on Oct 14, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well

if it was my choice Hendry over Scott easily. He is better with the puck, quicker, etc. and with Boynton being slow it’d be nice to have someone with some skating ability skating along side him.

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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I missed Q chewing out.....

Skille after the second goal, Jesse Rogers mentions it in his blog. If that’s the reason Skille didn’t see the ice in the 3rd, I’m calling bullshit. Skille is going to make mistakes but at least he’s leaving it all out on the ice every night. Not sure I can say the same for Bollie, although his faceoff numbers were pretty solid last night.

There just has to be more minutes for Skille…….

by frictionjane on Oct 14, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haven't had a chance to check

but what were the faceoffs? I know starting the 3rd they were not winning the %

by Jrs23 on Oct 14, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Check out the Froman links

It’s the first post now on the main page, has links for stats. Faceoffs, corsi, shots, etc

by frictionjane on Oct 14, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not a big fan of Q

the team carried Q last year and always will, nuff sed.

by radguy213 on Oct 14, 2010 8:52 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm not a big fan either

He did a fine job last year, and I get what he’s doing this year. It’s a long season.

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by laaarmer on Oct 14, 2010 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agree about last year

I could care less for his knee jerk stuff, but his changes, late as they may be, at least come at times when we still have a chance.

by radguy213 on Oct 14, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Q is being patient....

He knows what he has here. The second period was great watch-we looked awesome. Ran out gas in the third, seen too much 4th line…..everyone knows including Q Skille/Vic are money. Management has a plan and injuries. I will say everyone is getting better.

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by ccm on Oct 14, 2010 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Psychological Backlash?

To me, it looked like the Hawks were afraid to hit after the Hammer situation. Nobody finished checks, we lost damn near every board battle, and Preds pretty much camped in the crease.

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by whiskeyboy on Oct 14, 2010 9:09 AM CDT reply actions  

It did look like they weren’t hitting for some odd reason.

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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Keith

pulled up several times. They all kept seeing Hjammer sitting upstairs and wondering if they’d be next for the simple act of being an aggressive hockey player.

Our Cup.

by 334Rules on Oct 14, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Q= Mike Keenan?

Pretty Boy Troy and Jack Skille are in this dudes doghouse. I remember one game last year were Versteeg played a whole 1 shift in the 2nd and 3rd period but other than that Q didn’t pull any of this last season.

What do Skille and Brouwer have to do to get on the ice?

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by HjammerTime on Oct 14, 2010 9:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Brouwer was in the dog house

last year as well. I think Q needs to swallow his pride or something and let Brouw play.

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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

That is an interesting take Hjammer

There is quite a bit of stubborness in Q. While he is quick to mix-up lines he is slow to change the style of play to exploit the other team (or to stop them exploiting us).

How long until the team starts tuning him out?

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by Johnny Lava on Oct 14, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I dont think were even close to the guys on the bench turning on him. I think with our core Q is god and the younger guys probably realize they have to earn their ice-time. But Skille and espeically Brouwer are quite a mystery.

Also Q doesn’t do crazy stuff with his goalies so he will never quite be Mike Keenan.

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by HjammerTime on Oct 14, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

On the drive home from the game

I kept thinking that if Brouwer is going to continue to stay in Q’s doghouse, we should contemplate trading him for more defensive depth. Then i saw his cap hit and realized that probably wouldn’t solve the problem, unless Bowman can find a defenseman in someone eles’s doghouse that he and Q think they can turn around that happens to have a cap hit around 1 milion. A change of scenery for both guys trade…worked well in the Ladd-Ruutuu deal, no?

My concerns about our offensive depth are falling in inverse proportion to my concerns over our defensive depth, and even when Cambell is back, we’re still going out there, I still don’t love Boynton as the #6 guy, my willingness to see things in Hendry that othres don’t is fading fast, and Scott’s not the answer, and when all is said and done, I would rather have Leddy playing more minutes in Rockford and developing further than 5-6 pairing minutes here.

But lord only knows if such a defenseman exists out there.

by GenPabloSecobar on Oct 14, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

stat of the game
The Hawks only managed 4 shots in the third period

I blame Q for trying to sneak a win rather than seize one.

We like our people.

by cliffkoroll on Oct 14, 2010 9:27 AM CDT reply actions  

But hasn't that always been

Q’s MO? Sit back rather than attack?

by radguy213 on Oct 14, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, he started this toward the end of the playoffs

that would be how we ended up in OT in Game 6. Well, maybe periodically during the season, but not as much as lately.

by Katherine215 on Oct 14, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

my recollection too

it wasn’t until after the March debacle at the earliest that the team ever played to protect a lead last season.

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by cliffkoroll on Oct 14, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hate it

and it almost ALWAYS backfires. It’s not their game!

by Katherine215 on Oct 14, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

and the Hawks should know this better than anyone

the Calgary Game last season. You let up on a team cause you think you’ve got it in the bag….

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by Johnny Lava on Oct 14, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

he's developed that annoying tendency

to play conservative with a one goal lead and try to eek out the win. We’re a puck possession team, why are we not trying to win by possessing the damn puck, especially in a game where we are weak at D?

by Katherine215 on Oct 14, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good call

It isn’t good, especially like you said when Dmen are out. Attack, attack, attack. The best defense is a stellar offense, especially when your whole 2nd line is gone.

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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

When we sit back and protect a lead

it seems like that leads to those situations where the puck just pinballs in front of our net…and we usually come out on the losing end.

by radguy213 on Oct 14, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

It always seems

like that to me as well.

That and Dunc/Seabs are dead tired later in the 3rd and Q is hoping those two can hold on and the 3 nhl lifer 3rd liners and a 19 year old kid can help keep the lead. D-U-M-B

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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

The 19 yo needs to learn how to play in those situations

The career 3rd line D need to be able to kill penalties as well. Defencemen take penalties. Unless you are suggesting that Hossa and Toews move to D in that instance. I doubt you are, so who fills in for Keith when he takes a slash, etc? Hammer, Campbell, and Seabrook cannot do it without at least one other.

Maybe Boynton, Hendry, and Scott are not the right guys. These are the guys Stan gave Q, so what is he going to do?

Mickey Redmond sucks

by laaarmer on Oct 14, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Vaild point

but why go into cruise control when you are missing two guys. I am not talking about penalites here and the PK. I am talking about Q getting conservative with a depleted D. You go up by two goals on the Preds they are pretty much put away with that offense and they have to abandon their gameplan at some point in the 3rd.

I understand your PK guys are Keith/Seabs/Hjammer and if one is in the box you have to rely on two other guys but that isn’t a reason fro why Q gets conservative. That was the point I was trying to make, nothing about the PK. That was the Pre4ds first goal in like 30 something tries on the PP against us.

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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

You can't go pedal to metal with a 1 goal lead in the third.

You will most likely give up odd man situations. You also cannot go 4 accross the blue line for 15 minutes. There is mid ground here that the Hawks need to find. I’m sure they will.

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by laaarmer on Oct 14, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

4 SOGS in the 3rd is just plain ridiculous.

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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

So I normally read GDTs after I come back from games

but considering last night’s not really a game I wanna relieve (it’s not like anything of note really happened), should I still? I’m thinking the conversation might have been better as a side effect, but I don’t know for sure.

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by chiblackhawks on Oct 14, 2010 9:31 AM CDT reply actions  

I would skip it

We weren’t especially entertaining last night and we got trolled a couple times, so that was kind of annoying.

by Katherine215 on Oct 14, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I ended up accidentally going through the 3rd period thread

Cilcked on the wrong button, whoops. Saw the trolling and the inadvertent trolling. Dem’s the breaks I guess.

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by chiblackhawks on Oct 14, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Stalberg did a radio interview on the Mix this morning

and was pretty funny. He rooms with Jack Skille who apparently doesn’t shut up. He also does NOT spend all his time at IKEA. :) He barely has an accent, which I knew from hearing him a little before but it’s still disappointing not to hear it.

I also don’t understand why the fuck Q won’t give him and Skille more ice time. They’re doing a damn fine job, it’s so frustrating.

by Katherine215 on Oct 14, 2010 9:36 AM CDT reply actions  

They are doing a fine job where they are

That does not mean they will do a fine job against the other teams better players. YET. I may have to grow a mustache of my own because I really am getting what Q is doing here. I give him credit for having a plan.

Mickey Redmond sucks

by laaarmer on Oct 14, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Stalberg had under 8 minutes

I’m not saying move him up to the top line, I would just like to see them play more. They had some solid puck possession in the 2nd period and then virtually nothing in the 3rd. That makes zero sense to me. If they need a finisher, shouldn’t they find one for those two? I still think they’ll get more chances once they play otgether more and stop trying to be in the same place.

by Katherine215 on Oct 14, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Burish and Eager were awsome 4th liners too

Who’s ice do you take away to get these guys time?

It’s easy to say Bolland’s line right? Be careful, you just might get that.

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by laaarmer on Oct 14, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bolland's played with Stalberg and Skille

the last two games. I don’t like seeing Brouwer get 4th line minutes either, but he’s been less active than these two. You think they’re comparable skill-wise to Burish and Eager? I don’t.

by Katherine215 on Oct 14, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

No I don't either

Somebody has to play these positions. Q will make changes, we all know it, and once he starts, he won’t stop for a while

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by laaarmer on Oct 14, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just think the wrong guys

are playing the positions right now. I’m really shocked he hasn’t been quicker to make changes, given his past history.

by Katherine215 on Oct 14, 2010 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

maybe he realizes this

but wants to see how bad it could be? After all, you don’t always know how good “good” is until know know exactly what “bad” look like?

now i’m just making things up.

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by puppetmasterp on Oct 14, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

maybe he's waiting

until they figure out how to score before he gives them more time/moves them up? They are fantastic until its time to finish, and then nothing.

by justforkicks on Oct 14, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

As opposed to

Dowell and Pisani who neither get chances nor bury their opportunities.

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by El Duque's Raft on Oct 14, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

i don't even know

there’s a lot going on with the lines that i don’t agree with/can’t figure out. yes its just been 4 games but who knows wtf is going on in q’s head

by justforkicks on Oct 14, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

SKille and Stalberg line has great puck possession.. But noone on that line will ever finish a goal in their current state. Neither one of them seem to have the touch right now. Bad releases/shots I could probably shoot harder/shots from low % areas..

They will score eventually (maybe), but right now while they have puck possession down, I don’t see them potting the puck. That line could really use a finisher.

by Dranearian on Oct 14, 2010 9:43 AM CDT reply actions  

And the fact that neither have much time

if any at all at the NHL level. The scoring will come.

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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Off topic but did anyone see

Lapierre’s hit on Downie? I can’t watch youtube at work but apparently it was a bad/dirty hit but Lapierre didn’t get tossed since Downie didn’t get hurt. I would think if they are in fact trying to stop the dangerous plays, then intent to injure is just as punishable as actual injury.

by justforkicks on Oct 14, 2010 9:49 AM CDT reply actions  

He is lucky Downie wasn't hurt

Star player being out for long period of time = long as suspension for the guilty party.

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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

*ass

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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought it was worse than hammers hit

Which looked to me like a shoulder/shoulder hit, but even if it was from behind it was still a hockey kind of hit. This was two hands out shoving him face first into the boards. I’d say it’s on par with/worse than Ovie’s hit, but Downie (and Lapierre) got lucky

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by shinkicker on Oct 14, 2010 10:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

that's what i've read in other comments

and if someone can get a 2 game penalty for “lewd gestures” shouldn’t an actual intentional dangerous play have more reprecussions then a 5 minute boarding, and not just be contingent on injury?

by justforkicks on Oct 14, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Since a Major was called on LaPierre

I believe the play will be reviewed by the NHL. Considering that it was a cross check from behind that resulted in Downie going into the boards, I’d say he should get 3-5 games.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on Oct 14, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't sure since

he wasn’t tossed from the game, apparently since Downie wasn’t injured.

by justforkicks on Oct 14, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

this is what I can't stand

I haven’t seen the play yet, but if it’s similar to the Ovie hit on Campbell, he should’ve gotten a GM and been out, regardless of the result of injury. The play itself is still bad, he just got lucky Downie didn’t get hurt. Ugh, that is so frustrating to me.

by Katherine215 on Oct 14, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

IMO the Refs

should have called a Cross Checking major which brings an automatic game misconduct. Instead they called a Boarding major which gives the refs three options;
They can just leave it as a major or they can add a game misconduct (a foul resulting in an injury to the face or head) or a match penalty (based on the degree of violence of the impact with the boards) In this case LaPierre should have been given a match penalty.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on Oct 14, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Worse than Ovi

It was intentional, no doubt. You can see LaPierre smiling in the scrum after the hit. Only reason he won’t get more games is Downie was okay. Doucher

by frictionjane on Oct 14, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

I think the refs need to look at the play itself and not the injury – and if they don’t and remain inconsistent with how they penalize based on either 1) the person making the play and/or 2) the result of it, a lot of shit is going to be let go simply because the effected player was lucky enough not to be injured. Which won’t do much towards changing the culture of hockey.

by justforkicks on Oct 14, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

OMG

that’s scarier than Hammer’s hit. Hey NHL, there’s the type of hit you want to prevent!

by ahnfire on Oct 14, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holy Bat Shit Robin

It’s four damned games into the season. This is nearly as bad as the panic I saw after the Olympics.

I can see the complaining if the roster was basically the same as June 9th. But it’s not.

I’d hate to see the hand wringing if they were something like 2-6-2 after 10 games !!

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Oct 14, 2010 10:04 AM CDT reply actions  

I guess when you win the Cup

and have pretty much untilized all of your salary cup space, you have higher expectations. I don’t see panic, I just see folks wondering why the hell certain guys are getting more ice time and why certain guys are paired with other guys. I wouldn’t call it panic though.

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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

i figured you'd feel obligated to reply to that comment

based solely on your screen name alone.

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by puppetmasterp on Oct 14, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I felt like I was getting called out a bit

But then again maybe Ballhawk is a closet Scott fan. That is the only guy I have pointed out as not being capable of playing on this team. I’d be happy if JS proved me wrong but I doubt he will.

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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I too have high expectations

…and unlike a couple other coaches in this city, I’m more than willing to give Q the benefit of the doubt right now.

I’m gonna hold off on the eval until at least 20 games or after 8 games Soupy’s been back, whichever is greater.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Oct 14, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree but then again Q did this whole sit on the lead shit

last year. It doesn’t matter what players you have if you’re going to be conservative. Cut them loose.

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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Oct 14, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think personally

Since I can’t speak for others is that the fun of the season and wins or losses is being a fan and enjoying. It could be from ranting about something Q has done to that player didn’t get enough ice time. Its the nature of fans. I haven’t seen freaking out but just the usual of figuring what went right or wrong.

High expectations are here to stay and I’d rather having them considering we are trying to defend that precious shiny thing. It’s a long season

by Jrs23 on Oct 14, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did anyone see what Weber did to Toews after 19's interference call in the first?

I was at the game and didn’t hear but was told Edzo called what weber did “dangerous & nasty”…I saw Toews was angry about something but did not see exactly what weber did??

Also, we were going on the PP. I am never one to criticize anything the our Captain does because he’s a fucking marvel and all but damn, sully ties it up on that 4 on 4 when we shouldve been on the powerplay. Not great timing.

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by west_fulton on Oct 14, 2010 10:06 AM CDT reply actions  

i heard it also

but missed it since my stream went choppy. i was actually waiting to see if something would happen with kane since they were getting in his face too

by justforkicks on Oct 14, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

He slew footed him

which means he kicked out the back of Toews’ foot. I hate that term ‘slew foot’. It doesn’t make any sense but all grizzled old hockey guys use it.

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by El Duque's Raft on Oct 14, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, just call it tripping

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by Johnny Lava on Oct 14, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Slew footing

Rule 52 – Slew-footing
52.1 Slew-footing – Slew-footing is the act of a player or goalkeeper using
his leg or foot to knock or kick an opponent’s feet from under him, or
pushes an opponent’s upper body backward with an arm or elbow,
and at the same time with a forward motion of his leg, knocks or kicks
the opponent’s feet from under him, causing him to fall violently to the
ice.
52.2 Match Penalty – Any player or goalkeeper who is guilty of slewfooting
shall be assessed a match penalty.
52.3 Fines and Suspensions – There are no specified fines or
suspensions for slew-footing, however, supplementary discipline can
be applied by the Commissioner at his discretion (refer to Rule 29).

Mickey Redmond sucks

by laaarmer on Oct 14, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

in the 2010-2011 rule book

it reads the same as this excerpt from the 07-08 book except “refer to rule 28” in place of rule 29.

Mickey Redmond sucks

by laaarmer on Oct 14, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

would have been nice to get that call

probably impossible to see it happened so fast though. what a miserable sequence that was in the game. To go from having a powerplay- to 4 on 4- to refs not seeing this shit from weber- to sullivan tying the game.
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by west_fulton on Oct 14, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Of course, Towes did interfere with him

Which was a fucking backbreaker. I love Towes but that play hurt.

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by whiskeyboy on Oct 14, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

Did you see the play? Did you think it was a slew foot? I thought it was, and I’m surprised nothing else has been said about it. It was a fairly mild one, and weber didn’t really get much leverage on the down downforce with his upper body, but still…dangerous play.

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by K_Dog on Oct 14, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

If it's on video and Campbell looks at it and it is slew footing

You can be injured severely. Head, neck and back.

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Mickey Redmond sucks

by laaarmer on Oct 14, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

It didn't look so bad live

But when you saw the replay it was blatant. I like Weber as a player but if that was intentional, and I don’t know how it wasn’t, something needs to be done. Maybe Scott can actually be useful and do something about it in one of the next five meetings.

by frictionjane on Oct 14, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then the 'Hawks have a beef

It is totally clear the Tazer had his skate kicked out from beneath him, hit directly in the back of the boot.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Oct 14, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was impressed, Kane actually pushed back

Seems like maybe he won’t take as much k-rap this year. I even saw him throw half a check in the preseason game against the Pens. I sprayed my beer on the three rows in front of me when that happened.

by frictionjane on Oct 14, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

was i seeing things

or did O’Brien try to go pick a fight with Kane last night around the preds goal? I mean picking a fight with someone half a foot shorter than you and at least 50 lbs lighter?

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by puppetmasterp on Oct 14, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

He did

I definitely shouted at my tv “Go try that shit with John Scott.”

Such a fuckhead

San Francisco Giants: your 2010 NL West CHAMPS.

by shinkicker on Oct 14, 2010 12:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

There's a reason his nickname is SOB

and it’s not just because they’re his initials.

by Katherine215 on Oct 14, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Kane

treated him like a Buffalo cabbie. Knocked his hat all cockeyed and then just nonchalantly skated away. SOB was standing there going all “what the fuck just happened.”

Our Cup.

by 334Rules on Oct 14, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

God SOB is a bag of dicks.

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by whiskeyboy on Oct 14, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Re: Weber / Toews – during the play, right after Toews “interfered” with Weber, Weber pulled a sneaky little slew foot move on Toews, knocking him down on his back. It wasn’t really obvious at regular speed, but in slow motion you can clearly see Weber sweeping his leg under Toews.

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by K_Dog on Oct 14, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

670 the score reports just now...

Kaner out sick today. “Don’t know if he’ll make the trip to OH tomorrow”.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Oct 14, 2010 12:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Blackhawks just tweeted

he is questionable. If it’s just a vd flaring up, he better put some cream on it and suck it up. But the Hawks haven’t been to Nashville or Atlanta yet……….

by frictionjane on Oct 14, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

ESPN 1000 just said

He won’t travel with the team to Columbus but hasn’t been ruled out yet. Jeremy Morin, anyone?

by frictionjane on Oct 14, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

But they've been to Buffalo

I’m sure he nailed some toothless barmaid.

My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.

by whiskeyboy on Oct 14, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kaner for President?

I was looking at puck daddy’s SI parody cover contest and one of them had Kaner at the podium from the parade and it said something about him being president. Now they can add Governor of Maryland b/c he has crabs.

by frictionjane on Oct 14, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kaner

He’s from Buffalo, so he’s nailed plenty of toothless barmaids. If he was from Chicago, he would’ve nailed a lot more!

by Mike from the West Side on Oct 15, 2010 2:58 AM CDT reply actions  

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