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Always Crashing In The Same Car: Hawks 1 - Yotes 2

A good ol' Toews face.. just to start things off on a cheery note.  Ahh shit... that ain't even Toews.  I guess it's spreading..

What can we really write about these fucking games?  Can I just re-post the recap from about 7 other games so far this year and just change the names on who fucked up when?  Sadly, we don't even have to change many of the names most of the times (hint - it's been Keith way too often). 

The first period actually looked pretty solid.  The Hawks dominated puck possesion, were creating a ton of chances and out-shot the Yotes 14-4.  Despite all those chances though, the Hawks ended the first only up one goal off a Brian Bickell (not Jonathan Toews as Pat Foley first believed) who took the puck from the low boards, circled around near the blue line and fired a shot from center ice that bounced off a Coyote stick and found the back of the net.  The goal was first credited to Fernando Pisani.. but come on, 3 goals in 4 games for that guy?  Lets not get too greedy. 

Six minutes into the second - Duncan Keith put a dump-in attempt directly into the shin pads of a Coyote leading directly to a two-on-one for the Coyotes.  Nick Boynton was the lone man back and couldn't seem to commit to where he wanted to lay out to block... pass, shot, pass... way too many choices.  Wojtek Wolski went right around Boynton and hit a perfect pass to Kyle Turris (Where's Kris Versteeg when you need him?).  Also worth mentioning on this play - Keith was able to get back into the play but went for a stick lift on Wolski and missed. 

And then came the real test.  The Hawks have had an absolutely pathetic record on giving up a goal on shifts that were directly preceded by a goal against (I think someone on Twitter said there have been 7 before tonight?  I don't feel like looking it up).  Tonight would be no different.  The Hawks came into the Phoenix zone with some pressure but a cross attempt from Kane bounces over Keith's stick (and really... who else could it have been?).  Boynton was once again alone in his zone and Eric Belanger didn't bother with a pass - firing one past Turco for the eventual game winner.  Shoot me in the face.

The Hawks once again dominated the third in shot total at least - doubling up the number of shots of the Yotes.  Even the game's lone power play wasn't enough for the Hawks but that's no big surprise anymore.  Sadly, it's not the power play that's fucking clown shoes... it's the whole goddamn thing. 

Observations:

  • The lines started as:
    Sharp-Toews-Stalberg
    Hossa-Kopecky-Kane
    Brouwer-Pisani-Bickell
    Scott-Skille-Dowell

    By the Third Period though - the charts get a little choppy.
  • The D-Pairings were:
    Hammer-Biscuit
    Keith-Boynton
    Cullimore-Campbell

    Who would have ever thought that Duncan Keith would make Nick Boynton look bad?
  • Sam called for Keith's benching and got just about the closest thing we're likely to get.  His 20:55 was fourth highest for the blue liners (Cullimore and Boynton played less).  We're all open to ideas on what the hell should happen with Keith.  Is this just an elaborate plot by Duncs to get his ice time lowered to a reasonable clip?  If his play doesn't improve, is it too extreme to talk about stripping the A from his sweater?  Thoughts?
  • OK.. some positives for the night.  Umm.. the Hawks penalty kill was perfect.  Sharp wasn't a negative for the night.  Scott played less than 5 minutes and didn't do anything too stupid.  Everyone's favorite former Hawk Captain, Adrian Aucoin, was the only Yote with a negative rating.  At least we're not paying $100 Million for this
  • If you're not watching The Walking Dead... what's wrong with you?
  • Misery loves company folks - come drink with us on Sunday. 

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Ugh

I’ve lost my patience.

It seems to easy for opponents to push the hawks to the corners for low quality shots.

Scott is far from being our problem. He won’t be electric, or lead to a lot of goals, but oddly enough, teams aren’t scoring on us much when he’s on the ice. And yes, I do remember the SCUM game. Having said that, 5-7 minutes might be too much for a player named squishy.

No to taking away the A from Keith. He needs to settle down and not try too much.

The defense, for the most part seems to be coming around. It’s time we get the O working again and it’s time that Q begin to have a little bit of consistency with his lines. I don’t mind the experimenting, but I’m not sure nows the time to do that.

I miss Ladd.

I cringe knowing we have to play Edmonton again.

I miss Kane.

Let’s win 5 straight.

by aeroplane on Nov 11, 2010 12:30 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

I miss Ladd too...

And apparently Toews does as well. Too much bubbly caps?

2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.

by hawks61 on Nov 11, 2010 8:36 AM CST up reply actions  

COME ON

Why you gotta do this to me?

BTW, I got boooed for cheering Ladd’s SO goal the other night. Yeah, I did it. They shoulda kept him.

Does that apply to me?

by ElGiraffe on Nov 11, 2010 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I’m going to the Trash game in Ottawa next time they come to town. Due to a family tragedy I couldn’t make the game Tuesday but plan on it next time.

Not starting a debate but it should’ve been Ladd and Madden > Bolland.

Bolland is a very good player but Ladd and Madden were better for this team. Their leadership is sorely missed on this team and it shows right now.

2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.

by hawks61 on Nov 11, 2010 9:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe we're spoiled by such an amazing 2009-2010 season

I’m a reasonable adult and realize that this year can’t be the same — there had to be some letdown. And I’m a Cubs fan so I expect defeat often. But this is just bad hockey being played right now by a team that kept its core players. Mentally they just don’t seem to be there. I don’t know what the fuck is going on. I need a drink.

Does that apply to me?

by ElGiraffe on Nov 11, 2010 9:12 AM CST up reply actions  

hopefully Bolly

will disprove us but Ladd is missed badly.

As far as Madden, you could tell that age was starting to creep up on him. The experience would be invaluable, but I’m okay with him gone.

by aeroplane on Nov 11, 2010 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

hindsight is 20 20

During last year’s playoff run, Bolland was outstanding, while ladd fought through injuries and post-November-even-strength Madden was an afterthought. I miss ladd too, but at the time, most of us agreed with the decisions that Bowman made.

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by Hack on Nov 11, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

“the decisions that Bowman made” = the decisions that Bowman had to make.

www.mjt.org

by ChicoMaki on Nov 11, 2010 12:10 PM CST up reply actions  

i know

it’s like Bolland has been invisible lately.

We like our people.

by cliffkoroll on Nov 11, 2010 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

No To taking away Keith's A.

To early for drastic actions, but one could argue he might play better if he’s not worried about being a locker room leader. We need some Panda killing action too. Time for my late night drink, cough syrup.

This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.

by derlemke on Nov 11, 2010 12:33 AM CST reply actions  

Here was my fucking night

A friend from my former company was in town for training, and called me and basically begged me to go out to the college bars by OSU. I reluctantly agreed (thereby completely missing the Hawks game), since he will only be in town for a few days. We get down there, I get out and he parks the Company rental car somewhere. I spent my whole fucking night with college kids, listening to bad Karaoke, and even worse douchbaggery. I have never checked my watch more in a bar (except when I’m trying to figure out how many drinks I can squeeze in before Happy Hour), because I wanted to leave so badly. We get back to the car, and it is fucking gone, This idiot, who they are considering for a management position, parked the fucking car in a tow away zone. Cherry on top here was that the car was rented under a co-workers name. He fucking lost his shit, and completely shut down, completely unable to think rationally, or constructively. So I spent the night, working out the logistics needed to get the car back, and make sure that no one at my old employer found out about the incident, to cover HIS ass, because he was too fucking stupid to try to find a resolution to this problem.

Then I come home, find out the Hawks lost again, and THE MOTHERFUCKING BLUE JACKETS beat the red hot Blues 8 to fucking 1.

Fuck. My. Life.

Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
Who own da Chiefs?

by BigCSouthside on Nov 11, 2010 12:33 AM CST reply actions  

that should be Closing Time, not fucking Happy Hour

I’m too pissed to remember bar time-tables correctly

Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
Who own da Chiefs?

by BigCSouthside on Nov 11, 2010 12:34 AM CST up reply actions  

I read that first paragraph and thought

“…and even then BigC must have had a better night than the Hawks.”

(Sorry about your night, really, I didn’t mean to use it to be hyperbolic about the Hawks, who I didn’t even see last night.)

(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks, blogs at Blackhawks Down Low, and now also contributes to Intent to Blow.)

by chiblackhawks on Nov 11, 2010 7:05 AM CST up reply actions  

i thought the same

happy ninja may seem happy, but may have to kick your ass if you don't get it in gear.

by puppetmasterp on Nov 11, 2010 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

on a happier note,,,,

the walking dead is fantastic. the part where rick and glenn smeared themselves which zombie guts and rick saying “give me the axe, i need more guts” is too awesome for words.

by heyrocky on Nov 11, 2010 12:35 AM CST reply actions  

+1

2 episodes in and I’m hooked

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on Nov 11, 2010 8:08 AM CST up reply actions  

I am NOT AT ALL a zombie-flick fan

and yet I saw the first two episodes of Walking Dead and thought it was absolutely fantastic. That says a lot. Reminds me a lot of I Am Legend, which is one of only two zombie-ish flicks I’ve ever liked (the other being Shaun of the Dead, of course).

happy ninja may seem happy, but may have to kick your ass if you don't get it in gear.

by puppetmasterp on Nov 11, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions  

You didn't like

Zombieland?

Second City Hockey, come for the Hockey, stay up late for the Nerdfest!
Lighthouse Hockey, come for the Hockey, stay for the the injury report!
The avatar is a Schipperke, it's a dog. Yes, it's a real dog.

by burpchelischili on Nov 11, 2010 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

never saw it actually

maybe i missed out…

happy ninja may seem happy, but may have to kick your ass if you don't get it in gear.

by puppetmasterp on Nov 11, 2010 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I normally don't like zombie movies

Zombieland was pretty entertaining.

Number one sign of a crappy goaltender: he keeps telling the Goal Judge to "Get ready!"

by stacie7 on Nov 11, 2010 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

you are SERIOUSLY missing out

it's entirely possible this isn't sarcasm

by boldmatter on Nov 12, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep. Definitely missing out.

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by K_Dog on Nov 12, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

I do not watch horror movies,

and I laughed my ass off during Zombieland.

Second City Hockey, come for the Hockey, stay up late for the Nerdfest!
Lighthouse Hockey, come for the Hockey, stay for the the injury report!
The avatar is a Schipperke, it's a dog. Yes, it's a real dog.

by burpchelischili on Nov 12, 2010 6:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Watching that Kovalachoke clip

didnt make me feel much better. But I will say this. At least we still get pissed off. That man is starting to look broken.

by reprisal on Nov 11, 2010 12:41 AM CST reply actions  

Take the A

You can make things happen, watch things happen or wonder what the hell happened.

by Timothy Fisher on Nov 11, 2010 1:15 AM CST reply actions  

Why?

Because it will show evryone will be held accountable. EVERYONE.

You can make things happen, watch things happen or wonder what the hell happened.

by Timothy Fisher on Nov 11, 2010 1:17 AM CST up reply actions  

rec'd

‘duh’, but appranetly it has to be said.

We like our people.

by cliffkoroll on Nov 11, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

IMO, it's can they adjust to Life at the Top.

Every team plays their absolute very best against the reigning Stanley Cup Champions. That plus the personnel changes, chemistry, injuries, being full of themselves and now self doubt and ……………………….. Voila.
Time will tell. I think they’ve got the stuffins to overcome.

"Yet you skate like you think wearing it is enough."

LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!

by ballyb on Nov 11, 2010 5:46 AM CST reply actions  

I'm with ya on that,

Circus trip is just what is needed, get the fuck out of town for a while and bond boys!

We’re not just going to let you walk out of here.
Who’s “we”, sucker?
Smith, and Wesson, and me.

When you get to the right place, with the right people, quarter this. You know, this could be the right place. The time's running out.

by thepuckstopshere31 on Nov 11, 2010 6:50 AM CST up reply actions  

yes but

who figgered the word ‘urgent’ would be being thrown around by Veterans’ Day.

btw- for all you veterans out there, thanks.

We like our people.

by cliffkoroll on Nov 11, 2010 2:50 PM CST up reply actions  

np,

Second City Hockey, come for the Hockey, stay up late for the Nerdfest!
Lighthouse Hockey, come for the Hockey, stay for the the injury report!
The avatar is a Schipperke, it's a dog. Yes, it's a real dog.

by burpchelischili on Nov 11, 2010 6:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I need more Skille and more Dowell

..They give 100% effort every night . My I also get me so more of that Morin? This team is not hungry…….

"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson

by ccm on Nov 11, 2010 6:28 AM CST reply actions  

Skille pays the price every shift

Hawks must have put him up in Freeport while he was playing for the Hogs

Yep, thats infected.

by Bonvie5ForFighting on Nov 11, 2010 7:12 AM CST up reply actions  

They were out there in the final two minutes yestuday. Their effort hasn't gone unnoticed by Q.

"When I look at the net I don't see a goalie." - Pavel Bure
"When I look at the net I see 2 or 3 goalies." - Radek Dvorak.

by HjammerTime on Nov 11, 2010 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Cool was at work last night

I have seen before skille/dowel/Vic back together for last minutes of other games when we are losing.

"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson

by ccm on Nov 11, 2010 9:10 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I like Skille's effort

but he reminds me of me the first time I played racketball – running all over the damn place chasing the ball while the other players new where to stand so the ball would just come to them.

by stanfordron on Nov 11, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Stalberg too

was busting his ass again last night, as usual. As for Skillz and Dowell, I am actively cheering the 4th line every time they set foot on the ice. they give us hope, or some semblance of it.

happy ninja may seem happy, but may have to kick your ass if you don't get it in gear.

by puppetmasterp on Nov 11, 2010 12:16 PM CST up reply actions  

I have nothing good to say about the game

So instead I’ll focus on the Walking Dead. That is one hell of a show. They just picked it up for 13 episodes for Season 2. Unfortunately, they are saying Halloween 2011 after the initial 6 episode Season 1

by Northside_Dan on Nov 11, 2010 7:05 AM CST reply actions  

I'm hoping they get away from the comic storyline

As awesome as the show is, I don’t want to know everything thats gonna happen down the line. There are charachters that I loved in the book that got axed that I would like to see have a 2nd chance.

I'm not superstitious. I'm just a little stitious.

by AirTrafficAJ on Nov 11, 2010 12:30 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think taking the A makes sense

haven’t had the chance to watch the game yet (on vacay) but I’m 0-2 with the Hawks when they play during a flight. (Granted, the way their record is right now, they’re probably 0-X on a lot of things…

(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks, blogs at Blackhawks Down Low, and now also contributes to Intent to Blow.)

by chiblackhawks on Nov 11, 2010 7:12 AM CST reply actions  

They're 1-0 when I watch them

I’m probably about the only known thing with a 100% record around these parts.

by Germware on Nov 11, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

I think I'd say the same

I’m about 100% when I drink watching the games. So come on Saturday so I can have a drink.

by Jrs23 on Nov 11, 2010 10:11 AM CST up reply actions  

They're now 0-1 when they play during my flight

Silly American had an “equipment change” from a 767 with in-flight wi-fi to a 757 without one. I guess my wallet is thanking me right now, and it doesn’t look like I missed much, huh…

by VerStig on Nov 11, 2010 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Nope

Consider yourself fortunate.

39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.

by Badgerdano on Nov 11, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

There is something wrong with Scott...

I think he is doing the best he can and that is all we can ask, but that is not the real problem. The problem is that he only plays 4 minutes a game, basically making the fourth line ineffective. One of the many strengths last year was the ability to roll four lines over boards and wear teams down. The puck possession that the Hawks enjoyed last year was in part due to the fact that even the fourth line could go out there and hold the other team in their zone. Now on most nights with 3.5 lines at best we have a guy on the bench that can’t get on the ice for the second half of the game when his spot could be used for a much faster and hungrier forward that can play that type of game for us. We had a championship hockey team last year and unfortunately for John, players like Scott aren’t part of them.

"Hey, go hump your Saint Bernard, scum-nuts. "

by CementHeadStu on Nov 11, 2010 7:25 AM CST reply actions  

Couldn't agree more

This is the point I have been making for quite some time now. Having Scott in for 5 minutes a game as a forward makes no sense and leaves the team essentially short one skater, especially late in games. Wouldn’t that spot wouldn’t be more effectively filled by Morin? Or Smith? Or Brophey? What the fuck, take your pick off the Rock Vegas roster?

Nothing personal against Lurch – he is what he is – but this team is struggling for offense right now and Lurch at forward sure isn’t helping.

Beer. Now there's a temporary solution.

by one timer on Nov 11, 2010 8:37 AM CST up reply actions  

well hang on

our 4th line has showed up (for the brief period they’re on the ice) and been able to hold teams in their zone. There really is very little blatantly wrong with our 3rd and 4th lines. They make mistakes, but that happens – they’re pretty good. In fact, in the last two games, they’re the only ones producing.

the best players on this team need to produce, every night, or we won’t win. Don’t rag on the 3/4 lines out of reflex.

by oregon_hawk on Nov 11, 2010 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

our 3/4 lines have been the ones producing

so it’s hard to get on them. But it’s also hard not to think about what it might be like if everyone on those lines could play more than 5 minutes/night.

I wish our top 6 worked as hard as out bottom 6.

San Francisco Giants: your 2010 WORLD SERIES CHAMPS.
Chicago Blackhawks: 2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPS.
best. year. ever.

by shinkicker on Nov 11, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

When you referenced "The Walking Dead"...

did you mean the AMC show or this team?

It's THE GOAALLLIEEE!!!!!

by hauthisis on Nov 11, 2010 8:22 AM CST reply actions  

jeez

this is just getting ridiculous. might as well just put up two goals on the board everytime a team scores. poor duncs must be drowning his sorrows in burbon right now. you could see how frustrated he was with his play at the end of the last oilers game.

on another note, 1 goal a game is just pathetic for this team. not to mention the last two goals scored have been by pisani and bickell. ok, time for our “core” guys to show up and earn those paychecks.

we at least had some good puck possession in the first, but seriously, as the game goes on, we just deteriorate. can’t rely on the third and fourth lines to execute for us every game.

by Raditzzzz on Nov 11, 2010 8:22 AM CST reply actions  

I get more p'd off about

The fact of they score one and we dont hold the lead but on top of that it’s about 35 seconds apart. Didn’t they the other night let in 2 goals 28 seconds apart?

I’m worried as well others are but it’s not lost yet. It’s time to hit the road, and get back to the basics. Come back to the UC and tear it up for the rest of the season

Lets go Hawks!

by Jrs23 on Nov 11, 2010 8:27 AM CST up reply actions  

14 seconds

I thought it was pretty Osgood to take a Bertuzzi behind the Draper, but it ended up blowing the Abdelkader of my Kronwall.

by chiavsfan on Nov 11, 2010 8:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Someone probably already mentioned this

but I’ve figured out the secret to not losing these games. Q needs to take his timeout right after we give up a goal. Regroup before we give up another on the next shift.

by activestick on Nov 11, 2010 8:26 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

that might actually work…. genius, that.

happy ninja may seem happy, but may have to kick your ass if you don't get it in gear.

by puppetmasterp on Nov 11, 2010 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Take the A

and give it to Hossa. I don’t think it’s too early for that. I also agree we need to roll 4 REAL lines. Bolly’s back soon, whatever. Q needs effing line continuity. Opposing players, including their goalie, need to start getting out of the way of our shots.

by radguy213 on Nov 11, 2010 8:30 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

+1

Something we all should remember.

2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.

by hawks61 on Nov 11, 2010 8:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Flags out this morning for sure

….and how ’bout that pregame last night. Those men I hope started to shed a tear.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Nov 11, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Take me to magic of the moment...

Hey, look at us, we’re the masters of redundancy.

First off, I like to thank everyone for the kind wishes during this difficult time. Very much appreciated. My sincerest apologies to hungryhungrypanda and his family for their loss of their pet Stanley as well.

Since my Dad is taking this loss very hard I watched the game with him and here’s what I saw:

- Too many turnovers at the opponents blueline. Far too often the ‘Hawks are going into the offensive zone trying to make something out of nothing instead of dumping the puck in. That’s why our 4th line has been so effective as they’re constantly dumping the puck and and head for retrieval. This backs the defence up and leads to great chances like Skille had (what does this kid have to do to get one?).

- Very solid game out of Turco and the defence except for the guy voted as the league’s best. That boy has issues and has morphed into Boris Mironov. Hopefully, Q’s harsh criticism will get Keith back into D2K mode. And a NOOOO to the removal of the A as that would only create controversy within the dressing room and would do more harm than good.

- Every player on that team should play with the heart, determination, and courage like Jack Skille. Yah, he can’t finish his chances but he’s playing with a ton of passion and as a result is getting some quality chances. Something that the rest of the team needs to do. Liked Kopecky’s game as well last night – he gets it at least.

- Getting sick of “Campbell shoots … and nobody in front” and I’m pretty sure he is as well. All I ask of the defencemen is get the puck to the net and let the forwards do the rest. Outside of Skille, Pisani, and Kopecky nobody is driving to the net. All they need to do is look a the game’s first goal as a result.

- I watched some of the highlights of the other games around the league and one thing was very apparent – the speed. Where’s that been for the ‘Hawks? ChicoMaki already touched on this during the game, but when have you seen the ’Hawks create an odd-man advantage? Not very often this year. We’re one of the fastest teams in the league, time to start using it to our advantage. Back teams up defensively to create more open ice.

- No ledge jumping here as I’m seeing some improvement – just not enough. Long season ahead as I’m not counting out the Penguins or Sharks, so why write off the defending champions?

2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.

by hawks61 on Nov 11, 2010 8:57 AM CST reply actions  

My apologies for that ridiculously long post.

2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.

by hawks61 on Nov 11, 2010 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

oh, I realized last night that I only gave condolences

to HHP on the loss of his dog and not on your loss. My condolences to you and your family.

by Katherine215 on Nov 11, 2010 9:05 AM CST up reply actions  

 They are not one of the fastest in the league now.

by SLAZZ on Nov 11, 2010 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

They still are, they just haven’t shown it yet.

2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.

by hawks61 on Nov 11, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Sorry for your loss 61

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by K_Dog on Nov 11, 2010 9:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Thank-you Katherine and K_Dog.

2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.

by hawks61 on Nov 11, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Remove the A

and don’t give it to anyone else. Give it back when he stops sucking ass.

by oregon_hawk on Nov 11, 2010 10:17 AM CST up reply actions  

He’s done enough for this franchise in the past that we shouldn’t strip him of his honour just because he’s has a “less than average” month. That would be something that Pulford would pull and how many Stanley Cups did that asshat win while he was here? Exactly!

Relax, it’s going to be O.K..

2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.

by hawks61 on Nov 11, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Pully won SCs in:

let’s see, it was in, no. I think didn’t he, no. What about… no. Huh, I guess you’re right.

39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.

by Badgerdano on Nov 11, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey, Guys...

Did anyone at the Bottom Lounge give you $$ for Committed Indian issues last night? Two guys at the bar said they would buy my issue, and I trusted them. If not, LMK and I’ll bring cash on Sunday.

Does that apply to me?

by ElGiraffe on Nov 11, 2010 9:03 AM CST reply actions  

No to taking the A from Keith. It’s not that he’s not putting forth the effort (30 minutes a game seems effort enough).

I say: Sit Keith the first 7 minutes of the Game. Kind of sittin in the Press Box to observe the Game, without not losing a (quasi) Top Defenseman for the entire game.

And Stalberg played like a Top 6 last night

by NesterenkosGhost on Nov 11, 2010 9:05 AM CST reply actions  

Stalberg looked fine

but I also noticed that he had a difficult time with decision-making once a defender took a stand or checked him. A couple of times he was leading the breakout and skating the puck up ice and he just ate it the moment he was challenged which led to a couple unnecessary turnovers. He needs to use his speed to make a move or make a pass in those situations.

You’re not going to score very often 1 on 2-3, but if you’ve got 5 teammates behind you, take the risk, don’t just give the puck back to the opposition. I’d personally prefer less individual heroics and more team puck possession play. Seems like that breaks down the moment the Hawks are trailing.

Same goes for Skille. At first his crashing the net was humorous to me. Now it’s getting ridiculous. Someone needs to tell him that if he’s going to take on 2-3 defenders then someone else if fucking open. No reason to skate the puck into the goalie’s lap. If he’s going to keep trying to attack from the left side and the defense is double-teaming him every time because they know he’s not going to pass (since no one’s there to pass to yet) get a freaking shot off earlier – or get a shot off PERIOD. That way the goalie might actually give up a rebound in front of the net with a trailer waiting for an open shot. Guh.

Don't feed the scrubber. It just encourages him.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 11, 2010 9:34 AM CST up reply actions  

Stalberg – in addition to what you mentioned, he seems to have come down with a mild case of Kopeckyitis…I thought I saw him fall down a lot last night, for no apparent reason.

Skille – while I applaud him for being one of the few guys willing do take it hard to the net and make something happen, I totally agree with you in that his technique is not effective. If you hold the puck too long and just slide into the goalie as the defender takes you down and the puck just slides off to the side, nothing is going to happen. If you’re going to run out of space, either shoot the damn thing earlier and hope for a rebound or try and get a pass off to one of the wide open guys.

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by K_Dog on Nov 11, 2010 9:46 AM CST up reply actions  

agreed

I remember seeing Stalberg at one point coming up against D-men push-back, and turning on the wheels, and thinking, “why doesn’t he do that more often”

by NesterenkosGhost on Nov 11, 2010 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Stalberg just has to realize that “less is more” and that sometimes he just needs to dump the puck and head for retrieval. Last night he looked like the guy we traded away for him in Versteeg – the bad one. As far as unnecessary turnovers, there were a lot of participants in that category.

Skille is just a kid sometimes trying to hard. Something tells me that one goal for him would do him a world of confidence and open his offensive game more. He’s also not alone in the “more offensive imagination needed” section.

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by hawks61 on Nov 11, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

You're a funny guy,

the way you tell the story and everything.

That way the goalie might actually give up a rebound in front of the net with a trailer waiting for an open shot.

"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
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by nextgame on Nov 12, 2010 7:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Lost:

Norris Trophy winning defenseman. Answers to Duncan, Duncs, Dunky, D2K, Keith, Flash. Was critical to Stanley Cup run.

If found, please return to 1901 W Madison Street. Reward will be given in the form of hockey tickets.

by Katherine215 on Nov 11, 2010 9:11 AM CST reply actions  

No kidding

Should we start posting fliers on telephone poles and lamp posts?

Don’t know what his motivation is (maybe he got addicted to the adrenaline rush of scoring all those goals last year), but it seems like every time they get set up in the offensive zone and he gets the puck at the point, he will take a shot. Every time. If there’s traffic, he will move over 3 feet and take the shot…into traffic.

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by K_Dog on Nov 11, 2010 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Lost Teeth?

Maybe we need to find the tooth fairy first to get clues to his wheereaboots.

Don't feed the scrubber. It just encourages him.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 11, 2010 9:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Since we lost Teeth

Can we get some money cap space under our pillow?

by VerStig on Nov 11, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Dunc on a milk carton?

This sounds like a job for CNS.

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by nextgame on Nov 12, 2010 7:58 AM CST up reply actions  

It's not early any/v\ore

And this squad stinks. Wont have to worry about what you are doing in June, they will be golfing.

by SLAZZ on Nov 11, 2010 9:18 AM CST reply actions  

They’ve been unlucky too. I can count several times in the past 2 games were the opposition’s netminder has stopped a puck where he had no clue where it was.

Sometimes the breaks just don’t go your way. They’ll turn it around.

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by hawks61 on Nov 11, 2010 11:01 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed, agreed.

Sometimes the breaks just don’t go your way. They’ll turn it around.

"Yet you skate like you think wearing it is enough."

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by ballyb on Nov 11, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

My mom who basically doesn't know much about hockey said the same thing last night

“The Hawks just don’t seem to be getting many of those, what do you call them, lucky bounces any more.”

Number one sign of a crappy goaltender: he keeps telling the Goal Judge to "Get ready!"

by stacie7 on Nov 11, 2010 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree with Cement Head

Any chance Q is getting instructions from the Brass to dress Scott? (ala Cap friendly body)

I know we’ve seen Matt Walker dress too many times (more than once) but this is getting to the point of bizarre. somethin’s up. no?

by NesterenkosGhost on Nov 11, 2010 9:20 AM CST reply actions  

Thought about that too

I was also wondering if Q keeps running him out there to clearly show that he has not been given the horses to play they way they played last year. That’s a tricky and dangerous game to play, but it could be what he is doing. As for Walker, as Q was a plodding defenseman himself it seems he has a soft spot for that style of defender, which is so far my only reason to keep running out these slower players at the expense of hendry. Although with Boynton, Cullimore and Scott all dressed at one time, it seems to be a little overboard now

"Hey, go hump your Saint Bernard, scum-nuts. "

by CementHeadStu on Nov 11, 2010 9:38 AM CST up reply actions  

He's definitely getting instructions from Bowman

It’s the GM’s decision and to a lesser extent the coach’s on who stays and who goes. I have a theory on why Scott is playing, but it depends on the answer to this question:

Does anyone know if Cully needs to clear waivers on the way down or if he would have to clear waivers if the Hawks sent him down and tried to bring him back up? I know he didn’t have to clear waivers when they initially brought him up because he didn’t play the min # of NHL games last season, but I’m foggy on the rest.

Don't feed the scrubber. It just encourages him.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 11, 2010 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Clearly

Bryan Marchment has slipped on his old #2, but it says “Keith” on it, and he’s been allowed to play. Somebody tell Q, please…and let the search for Duncs begin.

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by HawkVision on Nov 11, 2010 9:28 AM CST reply actions  

Can anyone tell me

what the story was behind the two servicemen they honored at the start of the game last night? I was at the game and couldn’t hear what was being said over the cheering from the fans.

by Katherine215 on Nov 11, 2010 9:33 AM CST reply actions  

All I caught is that they’d been involved in a Taliban (I think) ambush and had done some intense defending. Hmm. That sounds like I’m watering down their effort—no, just can’t recollect the details.

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by ChicoMaki on Nov 11, 2010 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

You asked a great question
We’re all open to ideas on what the hell should happen with Keith.

Answer: Sit his fucking ass down for the next TWO games and either bring up Leddy or dress Hendry instead.

Pair Bisquit with Hendry on the 2nd pair, make Hammer and Soupy the 1st pair (PP too) and hope the Christ Boynton / Cullimore can do 10-12 minutes each and hold up.

I for one and getting sick-and-fucking-tired of having to credit Keith with an assist on opponents goals.

It’s really a sad-ass day when I first check MLB trade rumours instead of reading ’Hawks articles…!

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Nov 11, 2010 9:53 AM CST reply actions  

Re Keith

I’m on board with something along these lines. But sit him only for a game, max. You can’t go to the extreme of stripping his “A” without trying other things first. Also, we’re deprived of depth on the blue line as it is, two games without Keith is risking too much, even given his poor play.

I did seem to see an improvement in his play after his mini-benching last night. Sit him in the pressbox and have him watch Leddy play in his stead? Fuck, I should hope that would light a fire under him.

But I think it’s really important to add: Keith is playing shitty, ya, but these games hardly go back to just him. Every night there’s a generous handful of dunce passes, weak rushes, and give-aways—at both ends if the ice—by many. Things are really bad when you name guys like Skille and Stalberg as the better players on the ice. Not knocking them, but come on boys.

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by ChicoMaki on Nov 11, 2010 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Not to mention we only scored ONE FRIGGIN' GOAL!

You’re not going to win too many games 1-0. We should be able to give up two goals and still win a game! Keith is clearly not the Keith we have known but that’s not all that’s ailing this team. It’s the forwards that have been letting us down. Aside from their happy time in Atlanta, Toews and Kane have been invisible. Last night Kane made a sweet pass to Toews out in front and Toews shot wide. WTF guys? Put that thing away! It’s not just Keith’s attempted home run passes that are killing this team. These guys need to get back down to basics and forget all the off season press about how well they pass and skate. Dump and chase. You get that down that will open up more ice for the long passes.

39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.

by Badgerdano on Nov 11, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

If the hawks had won the last three losses by 1 or 2 goals, we would not be having this conversation.

while duncs play has been unfortunate, the lack of offense is the real culprit.

by hawkeytalk on Nov 11, 2010 11:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Point taken about Skille and Stalberg

but just because I’m knocking on them doesn’t mean I don’t believe their are much bigger issues here. A $5M player is supposed to be worth 10 $500k players, right? So far that hasn’t been the case. The role players aren’t the ones killing us.

I’m also gonna repeat AGAIN something I’ve said for months and maybe some will now understand it (cliff I’m looking at you!), “The team goes as Bolland goes.” A healthy and productive Bolland brings line depth, takes pressure off the top lines, brings stability to the lines, adds a true center to the lineup, etc, etc.

An unhealthy/unproductive Bolland brings nothing but turmoil. On paper, there is a HUGE drop off from the top lines to the bottom and now we have Q sprinkling guys around like pixie dust trying to level things out on some nights and go top-heavy on others. With no depth at center and Bolland out, you have Kopecky and Pisani centering the 2nd and 3rd lines on some nights (in whose darkest dreams did they honestly ever expect/want to see this??). Nothing personal against the players, but Toews, Sharp, Bolland, Dowell is a hell of a lot better looking than Toews, Kopecky, Pisani, Dowell. Aside from Toews, if someone told me these were the 2nd through 4th line centers and I had to guess what team it is, I’d say Edmonton – certainly not the SC defending champs.

Even if Bolland returns and he’s not productive due to nagging injuries (let’s not get into the “bad linemates” argument here, it doesn’t apply), then the situation is possibly worse. You can’t scratch a guy using over $3M in cap space and you can’t move him. You don’t even have cap room to send him down and risk waivers (drastic and wouldn’t happen, but I’m just throwing out all options). You’re basically stuck with him and have to hope he gets better.

Right or wrong, that is why I was concerned (not against, concerned) keeping Bolland was too big of a risk for this team. His spot was too important of a piece to throw the dice on. If it is his back that has truly been hampering him, then we have big problems not just this year but next year too. If it’s not, then let’s hope for our viewing pleasure that he can take control of the 3rd line because IMO this team will turn things around very quickly if he can do that. Obviously we can’t blame Bolland’s play for the recent losses, but they illustrate his importance to this team. With Bolland MIA, this team is in trouble.

Don't feed the scrubber. It just encourages him.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 11, 2010 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Toronto would love a centreman right now. Bolland can be moved if needed.

I agree with you to a point, Bolland is a important piece of the puzzle and needs to be 100% healthy and ready to compete. He also needs Q to put him in his successful role as the #1 shutdown centreman and nothing more. He needs to be matched up against every teams top line and left in that role for that is where he is best … with that said, they shouldn’t be in trouble without him.

Toews and Kane need to start being the difference makers that they’ve shown in the past and haven’t this season except for the Atlanta game. If they improve, the team will offensively.

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by hawks61 on Nov 11, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I guess my question then is

who is your shut down center without Bolland in the lineup? We only have one on the roster, Toews. So now you’re stuck in an endless game of trying to match 1’s vs 1’s and sometimes you won’t get that matchup. We’ve seen enough of the 2nd line getting caught in bad matchups because we can’t keep the 1st line on the ice for the entire game. Hawks need a pure shutdown line and they don’t have one right now. Not good.

Don't feed the scrubber. It just encourages him.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 11, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

No shut down line?

What about 15-29-32?

39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.

by Badgerdano on Nov 11, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Your honor, the defense rests

Case closed!

Don't feed the scrubber. It just encourages him.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 11, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

BANG!

(gavel slam)

39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.

by Badgerdano on Nov 11, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Good points all

My “come on boys” at the end was the boys on the Hawks, not the boys (and girls) of SCH. My point was that you can’t continually name a game’s best players the 2 or 3 that bring great energy shifts. If that’s the norm you’re gonna be … well … playing .500 hockey.

Thanks, CNS, for putting names and an actual arguments to the things I was trying to hint at without having taken the time for explanation (in my own head and in those words).

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by ChicoMaki on Nov 11, 2010 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

why are you looking at me?
“The team goes as Bolland goes."

This phrasing suggests “good Bolland” is sufficient for a successful Hawks’ season, which I probably would have agreed with at the start of the season. But I had been assuming our “inner core” was more of a known quantity. The way our top guys have played, it now seems obvious to me that while “good Bolland” is stil a necessary condition for a successful season, it will not be sufficient

and this:..

(let’s not get into the "bad linemates" argument here, it doesn’t apply),

Question- who died and named you arbiter of what applies?

We like our people.

by cliffkoroll on Nov 11, 2010 3:08 PM CST up reply actions  

LOLZ

It doesn’t apply to THIS argument, because it doesn’t apply to his health.

“Looking at you” in jest because I think you took my concerns regarding Bolland as Bolland-bashing in the past.

Don't feed the scrubber. It just encourages him.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 11, 2010 3:23 PM CST up reply actions  

not sure i follow

anyway i’m too distracted trying to come up with excuses for Dunc to do much more than note that Bolland, despite being out during this awful stretch, still merits the frequent pies-to-the-face around here.

We like our people.

by cliffkoroll on Nov 11, 2010 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Not sure how this is a pie to the face?

You mentioned in the other thread about the returns of Hossa and Campbell not having the effect we hoped to see. If Bolland has a good game against the Preds, the Hawks will win decisively. Trust me on these things.

You must feel the Force around you; between you, me, John Scott the tree, John Scott the rock, everywhere. Yes, even between the (Bol)land and John Scott the ship.

Don't feed the scrubber. It just encourages him.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 11, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

i wasn't referring to your comment as a pie-in-face

more of a general trend in these parts

We like our people.

by cliffkoroll on Nov 11, 2010 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

My same thought process would also

apply to Sharp and even Kane. I know both of them put up offencive numbers that are considered pretty decent.

But far too many times have either/both of them just not backchecked. And lets face it, that was the part of the ’Hawks offencive game plan that made their puck-possession game so lethal last season.

The NJ game fucking blew my mind. ALL 5 of Jersey’s goals were scored when it looked like Sharp was busy checking out chicks in the stands instead of covering the trailers coming through the neutral zone or the points in our zone.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Nov 11, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

On the positive side,

the TOI for our Dmen was excellent. Keith and Hammer all around 21 minutes, soupy and seabs at about 23, Boynton at 16, and cullimore with 15. Can’t we do this every night? The sky did not fall with our 3rd pairing guys getting some increased minutes.

Hammer still looks really nervous when he’s handling the puck. I caught him firing the puck off the boards or clearing blindly a couple times when it seemed like he had more time than he thought. I hope his confidence continues to grow and he gets more comfortable.

by Katherine215 on Nov 11, 2010 10:00 AM CST reply actions  

I think Keith’s minutes were down only because of his benching … but point taken all the same re the sky not falling in when our 3rd pair was out there.

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by ChicoMaki on Nov 11, 2010 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

He was only benched about 4 minutes though

I think the goal was to spread out the D time, and I thought it was fairly successful. Yes, you want your best Dman on the ice a lot, but it does not have to be the extreme it’s been.

by Katherine215 on Nov 11, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh yes, 100% agreed re the extremes.

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by ChicoMaki on Nov 11, 2010 12:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Completely off topic

but its not like we have anything good to talk about Hawks wise today. Have any of you seen RED, and if so, is it any good?

Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
Who own da Chiefs?

by BigCSouthside on Nov 11, 2010 10:13 AM CST reply actions  

I have seen red; its decent. Blue is probably my favorite though.

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by K_Dog on Nov 11, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

the movie

I know you are being sracastic, but I will clarify

Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
Who own da Chiefs?

by BigCSouthside on Nov 11, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh. No, sorry, I haven’t seen that movie.

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by K_Dog on Nov 11, 2010 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Irène Jacob was hot in that movie.

I preferred her in The Double Life of Véronique though.

Um, no. I haven’t seen the Bruce Willis movie Red either.

Don't feed the scrubber. It just encourages him.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 11, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions  

saw it

i saw it and enjoyed it. it’s funny and willis and malcovich are over the top. helen miren, brian cox and morgan freeman are great in it to. mary louise parker is very funny as the “along for the ride” girl. overall it’s worth a watch.

by modnar on Nov 11, 2010 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Cool,

thanks for the mini-review. Now I know what I want to go see.

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by burpchelischili on Nov 11, 2010 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Keith went through this last year too

IIRC, after the Olympic break. He’ll settle down, it’s just a matter of managing his minutes until then.

At least last night I didn’t think effort was an issue. Actually, I haven’t really thought that for a while now, as it looks to me more like they’re pressing than it does that they’re mailing it in or lacking intensity.

Last night, they basically dominated the Coyotes like they should have, but just didn’t find the back of the net. And for all the talk about being forced outside to take low percentage shots … they still had a bunch of great chances. They should have won with that effort, IMO.

by Brian C on Nov 11, 2010 10:16 AM CST reply actions  

Effort

They definitely had their chances last night. I was at the game, and I remember a handful of times where I literally screamed “How the hell did that not go in!” But after the two quick goals it seemed like they started skating slower. You could really tell when they are not moving their feet. That’s why so many of the passes are not connecting, they are not skating to get open.

I’m not giving up on this team. Look at Anaheim: ten games into the season they were sucking big time. They’ve now won 5 in a row. I think our guys just need a couple wins to get momentum and gain their confidence back.

by hawkswin!hawkswin! on Nov 11, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

It was mentioned up above

Yeah, Keith figured in on both defensive lapses, but the problem is more that we aren’t producing offensively.

1-0? for serious?

This team has serious mental problems.

by oregon_hawk on Nov 11, 2010 10:21 AM CST reply actions  

Highlight of the game was...

Ice crew girl falling on her shapely ass.
I shoulda left after that happened, as it was downhill from there

by ewilkens on Nov 11, 2010 10:32 AM CST reply actions  

I know this will accrue opposition

but, I’d like to see Kyle Beach up here, if nothing else, but to fuck with energy level of these Hawks. We miss Burish, Eager for these reasons. Why not bring up a motherfuck-you to ice level, and show what energy really looks like.

I think the Hawks are fine. Last night was a tough break as far as bounces, and yes, they do need to shore up that goal-after shift, but I think (and, really, what the hell do i know) the problem is energy (not necc. hustle)

Just for a game maybe

by NesterenkosGhost on Nov 11, 2010 10:39 AM CST reply actions  

Do we really miss Burish and Eager?

I think for the most part, the 4th line has been good and very energetic. And Scott’s minutes in the 2nd half of the game last night were picked up by guys like Kane, Brouwer and Bickell skating a shift with the 4th. Not the problem here and I doubt Beach is the solution (cap issues excluded).

Don't feed the scrubber. It just encourages him.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 11, 2010 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Don't miss Eager

but maybe they miss Burish in the locker room. Who knows? On the ice, the 3rd and 4th lines have been doing their thing. Not scoring as many goals as they should, but they have been providing a lot of energy and hits. Scott is a problem even when he’s not on the ice because he’s taking up a spot someone else could be filling for more than 4 minutes a night. I feel like shaking these guys! WAKE THE FUCK UP!

39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.

by Badgerdano on Nov 11, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I understand the initial thought process that Scott is taking up a roster spot

but if his minutes are being dispersed pretty evenly, as they have been, and by guys who are better than who his potential replacement would be, then I think the point is rather moot.

My theory is that StanBow doesn’t want to make too many Rockford moves in Bolland’s absence. There’s really only a couple of guys who he can bring up long term because of cap and waiver restraints. Many of the guys in Rockford have bonuses that will kick in if they’re up too long. I think they’re trying to find a spot for Scott until Bolland comes back. At that point we’ll likely see Scott or Cully sent down. I’m not sure they’ve decided who yet.

Don't feed the scrubber. It just encourages him.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 11, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Not to mention Rockford is completely sucking ass. God help us right now if we need Richards or Toivonen to come up.

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by ChicoMaki on Nov 11, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

hawks61 prediction (do you have this CNS?)

The Blackhawks will emulate the 2007 Senators and 2009 Penguins and will take a tumultuous start to the season and will get hot at the right time and eventually win their conference on their way to the Stanley Cup Final.

I just see when this team finally gets rolling difficult to stop and I don’t see the likes of LA and Vancouver knocking us down. Maybe the Wings, but nobody else in a best-of-seven in the Western Conference.

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by hawks61 on Nov 11, 2010 11:12 AM CST reply actions  

LOLZ

I’m with you that brighter days are ahead, somehow, someway, but I don’t see train garnering enough momentum to roll over all opponents to win the West. There are too many very good teams and this will be a dogfight till the end, even if the ship is righted.
Thanks for the positivity though. I needed it.

Don't feed the scrubber. It just encourages him.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 11, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

No kidding.

I think Stacie got to him.

39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.

by Badgerdano on Nov 11, 2010 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Hey man

Big set of games this weekend. I have tickets for Saturday night.

LETS GO SIOUX!!!

I'm not superstitious. I'm just a little stitious.

by AirTrafficAJ on Nov 11, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Should be a good weekend of BADGER hockey at least!

Lucky you for going this weekend! Always a full house when your stinkin’ Sioux come to town.

39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.

by Badgerdano on Nov 11, 2010 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

my secret plan is working

soon all the negativity will be gone and the interwebz will be all mine

Number one sign of a crappy goaltender: he keeps telling the Goal Judge to "Get ready!"

by stacie7 on Nov 11, 2010 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you positive?

Don't feed the scrubber. It just encourages him.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 11, 2010 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

indubitably

Number one sign of a crappy goaltender: he keeps telling the Goal Judge to "Get ready!"

by stacie7 on Nov 11, 2010 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

happy happy joy joy

still think its pretty expected the season would start this way, bout .500, scrape into the playoffs then it’ll be dependent on how healthy they are or aren’t…

though i wouldn’t mind seeing some shake-ups

and in shake-ups i mean people riding the bench due to an undisclosed injury (sucking at life would be an OK excuse) and letting them think about their mistakes isn’t a turrible idea

oh and john scott, seriously he is probably a cool dude and all but he can play a little less hockey… like 5 minutes less a game which would equal zero and no more kopecky and hossa on the same line, seriously they both speak english and don’t need to hold hands at all times

by TurdFurgeson on Nov 11, 2010 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

im seriously

ugh over used that word…. seriously

by TurdFurgeson on Nov 11, 2010 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Put down the drink.

"Yet you skate like you think wearing it is enough."

LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!

by ballyb on Nov 11, 2010 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Duncs

I hope Keith is on crack because any other reasonable explanation for his play is too scary to contemplate.

by the wolf on Nov 11, 2010 1:32 PM CST reply actions  

i've caught myself thinking a couple times

god, i hope he’s injured…..

happy ninja may seem happy, but may have to kick your ass if you don't get it in gear.

by puppetmasterp on Nov 11, 2010 1:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Am I wrong

or was Sharp also benched for a period of time last night, along with Keith?

happy ninja may seem happy, but may have to kick your ass if you don't get it in gear.

by puppetmasterp on Nov 11, 2010 1:48 PM CST reply actions  

i wonder what results

we’d get if we rolled Scott, Pisani and Hendry for 25+ minutes one night.

by aeroplane on Nov 11, 2010 2:06 PM CST up reply actions  

A loss is a loss is a loss

39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.

by Badgerdano on Nov 11, 2010 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Hard to say about Sharp

It looks like he had a 3 minute gap between shifts, and a couple 2 minute gaps during the 2nd period, but he still played about 7 minutes that period and had about 20 minutes total. Maybe that’s standard with the longer change in the 2nd?

by Katherine215 on Nov 11, 2010 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

AMEN!

Give him and Keith "D"s until they can regain their A game.

by aeroplane on Nov 11, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

And give Kane two A's!

AA

Don't feed the scrubber. It just encourages him.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 11, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Wouldn't Kane rather have double D's?

Number one sign of a crappy goaltender: he keeps telling the Goal Judge to "Get ready!"

by stacie7 on Nov 11, 2010 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

he’s too small a guy for such bigness. AAs will suit him better. It will also suit us, the fans, better…

by aeroplane on Nov 11, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Q gets some of the blame for these train wrecks

While his line juggling can be brilliant, at this stage in the game I think he needs to establish consistency. Like it or not, his top 6 are these guys and he shouldn’t waiver from it.
Toews, Kane, Hossa, Sharp, Bolland, Brouwer
Third line: Dowell, Skille, Stahlberg
Fourth: The rest

by maxachium27 on Nov 11, 2010 2:31 PM CST reply actions  

yeah...

I’m hip to finding consistency in our lines until some stability can be found.

I didn’t mind Q poking around the mush that has been our team in the beginning. Might as well let the team be a train wreck for awhile, as long as the players built chemistry, but this team seems to be regressing.

Not sure about that Stahlberg guy, but I don’t mind throwing Stalberg back with Skille on every shift. They looked good in the early season.

by aeroplane on Nov 11, 2010 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

I think

Toews kane stalberg
sharp hossa kopecky
bolland brouwer skille
bickell pisani dowell

for like, 10 games. (10 games in which scott is a healthy scratch)

by oregon_hawk on Nov 11, 2010 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Honestly, not to sound offensive to them, but most of these new guys seems like the same guy to me so far

Like a $500k guy…

So I’m not sure if moving them around changes much. But I wouldn’t put Skille and Brouwer on the same line, they basically do the same thing (Brouwer just better) and I’d prefer to have a defensive “specialist” on the 3rd like Pisani to get back to a more traditional 3rd line unlike last season’s 3rd line that everyone got spoiled by.

Once we get back to basics, hopefully free up the top lines, and get back in sync, then possibly play around more with 3rd line. You could also argue that Bickell and Skille are similar, but I’d rather have that on the 4th line than the 3rd. They basically just need to be wildmen on the 4th line. I’d also prefer to see Brouwer get a fair shot at the top line.

Don't feed the scrubber. It just encourages him.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 11, 2010 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Bickell and Skille, similar?

How do you mean?

Skille can fly and is solid on the forecheck, Bickell isn’t. Bickell is sort of a net presence, isn’t the most spectacular forechecker or backchecker, but has an ok shot.

I kind of like Stalberg and Brouwer in the top six with Bolland-Kop-and Skille on the third line. With Skille pressuring the offensive zone and Bolland and Kop coming back, that line could really be a bitch defensively if they are collectively motivated.

A fourth line of Dowell, Pisani, and Bickell might not be a great fit, but I’m in the ‘who cares they’re spare parts’ boat.

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by Hack on Nov 11, 2010 7:08 PM CST up reply actions  

CNS is drunk again.

Don’t try to make sense of what he writes.

39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.

by Badgerdano on Nov 11, 2010 7:09 PM CST up reply actions  

You could also argue that Bickell and Skille are similar

I didn’t say that I would! I apparently was getting a little too carried away with my “they all look like the same guy” analogy. And I apparently also have two Skille’s in my lineup. /headsmack

Kop would do well on the 3rd line, if Q can pry him from Hossa’s line. When I did my season preview FanPost, I said I thought Kop would get about a quarter season of regular time on the top lines and then be moved to where he probably fits better, on the 3rd line, once one or two of the new guys stepped up their games. No complaints here if that happens.

Don't feed the scrubber. It just encourages him.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 12, 2010 12:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah while Ladd was out

The Steegs-Bolland-Kop line was still pretty money

by VerStig on Nov 12, 2010 2:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Didn’t watch Tonight’s game, but I was encouraged by the TOI numbers. If there is one silver lining, it’s that we can roll out a team sans squishy and Hendry (which will forever be nicknameless) and get acceptable minutes out of all 6 d-men.

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