Atop The Sugar Pile - 11/29
by McClure on Nov 29, 2010 8:34 PM CST
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In our never ending attempt to keep your finger firmly on the pulse of the Men Of Four Feathers, as well as our undying need to provide gimmicky content, it is my honor to present to you our first installment of what we're hoping is a weekly feature - Atop The Sugar Pile.
In this segment, we hope to give you, the pantsless, parents-basment-dwelling blog reader a brief synopsis of who (or what) on the Hawks is trending and in which direction.
So without further ado...
The Terrifying Lows
- The Hawks' Special Teams - Aside from the shutout against the Oil on planet Hoth, the Hawk PK surrendered a goal on the man advantage in every game on the Circus Trip. While the lone tally in the Canuck game came in garbage time, the Kings marker was a late, desperate 5-on-3, and Ryan Sexton's tally for the Ducks was a deflection, it flat out has to improve. Currently the Hawks sit at 78.7 percent, good for 26th in the league. Simply not good enough.
The other side of the ledger has been no better, as the Hawks only managed 2 power play goals the entire trip, and dipped to 21.6 percent. To call the second unit fucking clown shoes is an insult to clown shoes at this point. What started out productive in having Sharp and Seabrook man points on the first unit has dried up fast, and is just as counterintuitive as having Keith and Campbell both on the point on the second. While the rule of thumb is you want your percentages to total 100% to be breaking generally even on special teams, and the Hawks are barely above that mark, true contenders far exceed it. There's still time to correct this. - Tomas Kopecky - In spite of his hot start, and every subsequent opportunity he's been given in the top 6 this season, often riding shotgun with countryman/power top Marian Hossa as he prefers, TomoKop has only had 2 points in the last 12 games. He's seen his +/- plummet to a team worst -9, and has been committing some atrocious penalties while flat footed and reaching, particularly late in games. He realistically should have already watched a game in civvies, but that hour draws ever closer with each successive shitty effort.
The Dizzying Highs
- Patrick Sharp - Sharpie is back up to his old tricks again, with goals in 4 straight games, and points in 7 of his last 8. Sharp's always been a streak scorer, and usually peaks right around this time of the year, only to fall off the map after January first. Though these aren't hollow points; he's now got a league-leading 4 game winners to his credit. Most of these have come with him back at the center position as well, and he's managed to dig himself up from a -11 to a -5. Damning with faint praise, I know, but it's gotta come from somewhere.
- Brian Campbell - Amidst all of the recent knob-slobbering over Dustin Byfuglien, flying somewhat under the radar is the fact that Brian Campbell is already a +10 in his 13 games back, while averaging 21 minutes a night. His return has restored stability to the defensive pairings, particularly for Hammer. His ability to key the transition and maintain possession offensively have also helped the Hawks lower their shots against down to under 30 at 29.8 when they were hovering around the 35-36 mark just weeks ago. Oh yeah, he's added penalty killing to his repertoire as well, though mostly out of necessity due to Nick Boynton's general uselessness.
The Creamy Middles
- Patrick Kane - If Patrick Kane continues to score at a point per game rate (9G - 15A - 24P in 25 games) and no one notices, does it still cause a scene when he drunkenly takes his dick out in public?
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FUCKING GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKER!
FUCKING BOYNTON, YOU GODDAMN FUCKING MOTHERFUCKING SHITKICKER ON SKATES! YOU USELESS PIECE OF USED UP DOUCHE RAG! Fucking HOSSA?! GODDAMMIT!
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Nov 29, 2010 8:39 PM CST reply actions
easy there...
why is your 6th use of the word “fuck” the only word not in all caps?
Second City Hockey
June 9, 2010
Caps lock needed to catch its breath.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Nov 29, 2010 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
that is nearly exactly what I said at work when I read that
now everyone is afraid of my or thinks I have tourettes at my new office
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
Supreme Most Holy Pontiff, and Chief Prophet of JeHossa's Witnesses
by BigCSouthside on Nov 29, 2010 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
me*
fucking Boynton made me spell that wrong…what an asshole
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
Supreme Most Holy Pontiff, and Chief Prophet of JeHossa's Witnesses
by BigCSouthside on Nov 29, 2010 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
Brother, you have every right to yell, 'FUCK!'
Especially when it’s about the Hossa.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Nov 30, 2010 1:11 AM CST up reply actions
I'm working on it.
I’ve got this great therapist. He’s a Scum fan. He helps me get it all out by letting me beat the living dogshit out of him.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Nov 30, 2010 1:12 AM CST up reply actions
is his dick really big enough to be noticed?
As Kopecky, Boynton, and to a lesser extent, Scott, continue to get ice time, I get more and more curious as to what Q caught Jordan Hendry doing that locked him in the press box.
San Francisco Giants: your 2010 WORLD SERIES CHAMPS.
Chicago Blackhawks: 2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPS.
best. year. ever.
i hate Hendry
I’m always surprised at how few of you feel the same way I do.
He's the backup QB around here.
It is Chicago, after all.
by Katherine215 on Nov 29, 2010 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
He plays soft. First time I saw him live I thought he was a smallish guy but he’s like 6’2". Plays small. Gets outworked and outmuscled. Not effective along the boards. Doesnt block enough shots to really deserve substantial playing time.
by aeroplane on Nov 30, 2010 12:20 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
hmm...I don't remember much of Hendry's play
just enough to think of him as serviceable but not great. Oh, and that one rush he had last year that resulted in a goal.
A very simple response to what you say would be:
would you rather have Hendry, Boynton, or Scott at that position?
by northernsails on Nov 30, 2010 5:12 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think he's the savior or anything
But to see him sitting while Boyton keeps giving away the puck (and now takes out Hossa)? That I don’t get.
Nice new addition.
Kopecky is in need of another Olympic competition.
39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.
He's probably sulking at Hossa's bedside in the hosptial as we speak
"When I look at the net I don't see a goalie." - Pavel Bure
"When I look at the net I see 2 or 3 goalies." - Radek Dvorak.
HEY!
Where did you get the sugar for that tea?
I'm not superstitious. I'm just a little stitious.
by AirTrafficAJ on Nov 29, 2010 10:10 PM CST up reply actions
I stole it during that brief moment you turned you head ...
(paraphrasing based on memory) >.< doh!
by Billy Charlesbois on Nov 29, 2010 10:21 PM CST up reply actions
I nicked it that brief moment you turned your head
and I’d do it again
Jesus Christ walks into a hotel. He hands the innkeeper three nails, and he asks...Can you put me up for the night?
Sip
I'm not superstitious. I'm just a little stitious.
by AirTrafficAJ on Nov 30, 2010 2:31 AM CST up reply actions
re: game winners
I thin Buff leads the league with 5, no? Not sure where you’re getting that Sharp leads the league with 4.
fuckin sausage fingers
Everybody panic! Oh my God, there's a bear loose in the coliseum!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 29, 2010 10:53 PM CST up reply actions
he’s now got a league-leading 4 game winners to his credit
Buff has 5
/continue knob-slobbering
Everybody panic! Oh my God, there's a bear loose in the coliseum!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 29, 2010 10:52 PM CST reply actions
Has anyone seen Columbus' new mascot "Boomer" yet?
He is described on the Columbus site as:
a kid-friendly, cushy cannon character with a friendly face and fluffy moustache reminiscent of a Civil War-era general… During Third Jersey Nights, Boomer can be found on the concourse mingling with fans, posing for photos and signing autographs. He will also be showcased in a variety of game entertainment activities including pre-game where he’ll join the Dewmolisher on the ice to fire t-shirts into the crowd.http://bluejackets.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=544618
Yes folks, this uncircumcised kid-friendly pocket-rocket complete with wagon wheels scrotum will be firing white t-shirts into the crowd from his head. Paul Weller said it best, “Now that’s entertainment!”
Everybody panic! Oh my God, there's a bear loose in the coliseum!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 29, 2010 11:08 PM CST reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
….HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhaha….penis mascot, Columbus sucks
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
Supreme Most Holy Pontiff, and Chief Prophet of JeHossa's Witnesses
by BigCSouthside on Nov 29, 2010 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
he looks like
a giant homemade pipe bomb.
happy ninja may seem happy, but may have to kick your ass if you don't get it in gear.
by puppetmasterp on Nov 29, 2010 11:40 PM CST up reply actions
Or a colossal grey marital aid.
If that’s how your mind works.
I'm not superstitious. I'm just a little stitious.
by AirTrafficAJ on Nov 30, 2010 2:32 AM CST up reply actions
i love how
mine’s the most “G-Rated” interpretation
happy ninja may seem happy, but may have to kick your ass if you don't get it in gear.
by puppetmasterp on Nov 30, 2010 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
Fuckers are trying to steal some mustache power.
…..fuckers.
Tremendously tremendous!
Beautius J. Beautius!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Nov 30, 2010 1:31 AM CST up reply actions
Worst....superhero....teamup.....EVER
I'm not superstitious. I'm just a little stitious.
by AirTrafficAJ on Nov 30, 2010 2:33 AM CST up reply actions
Funniest part to me is that someone approved that
wonder what the rejected ideas were
Against logic there is no armor like ignorance
I love PR departments.
Kids! He’s a Civil War general!
…did nobody also realize he’s sort of Confederate grey too?
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
yeah, but they are the Blue Jackets, which is a Union term,
so I think it is really just meant to resemble an old man’s penis.
Jesus Christ walks into a hotel. He hands the innkeeper three nails, and he asks...Can you put me up for the night?
Blue cannon wheels
would’ve made the whole ensemble really “pop”
Everybody panic! Oh my God, there's a bear loose in the coliseum!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 30, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
Penis
is the first thing that came to my mind when I saw it. I was trying to figure out who would use one as a mascot.
by stanfordron on Nov 30, 2010 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
Finally (some) good comments from Puck Daddy
Blue Jackets stand up for their new phallic mascot
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Seeing shit like that really, really, really...
really, really, really (oh BTW REALLY) makes me glad I live in Chicago…!!
These fucking expansion almost-an-ECHL-bottom-feeder-of-a-franchise teams makes me once again realize just how fucking good I have it in THE BIG CITY.
Just win the next game...!
In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women.
Jesus Christ walks into a hotel. He hands the innkeeper three nails, and he asks...Can you put me up for the night?
Freedom costs a buck-o-five.
'It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man!' -Jeremy freaking Roenick
by 10thMountainFire on Nov 30, 2010 1:15 AM CST up reply actions
Love that flick
In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the woman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ7HZATMKBY
Just win the next game...!
So,
I went over to SLGT to see if the blues had a preview up yet, and ran into this link. Warning! The previous link is going to cause a massive reduction in productivity at my office today! Funny as Hell.
Second City Hockey, come for the Hockey, stay up late for the Nerdfest!
Lighthouse Hockey, come for the Hockey, stay for the the injury report!
by burpchelischili on Nov 30, 2010 5:25 AM CST reply actions
Good stuff Mac
but this:
While the lone tally in the Canuck game came in garbage time, the Kings marker was a late, desperate 5-on-3, and Ryan Sexton’s tally for the Ducks was a deflection, it flat out has to improve.
has a bit of “what have the Romans REALLY every done for us?” vibe.
We like our people.
The point I was making was that those are ultimately forgivable sins (understandable power play goals against), but the numbers pretty accurately reflect what we’ve been seeing on the ice. Teams with good PK’s don’t allow those goals. Fortunately the Hawks don’t take an over abundance of penalties.
Second City Hockey
Things have changed forever, we're the Ramblin' Boys of Pleasure
i mostly agree
i just thought it was funny. The PK has been shit- look at tall the goals they’ve given up.
oh, well, that Vacnouver gaol was meaningless.
and yeah, i guess that deflection was kinda fluky.
and granted, the 5-on-3, that was bullshit.
Still, beside the aquaduct, education, and a system of government, what has the PK really ever done for us?
We like our people.
by cliffkoroll on Nov 30, 2010 11:29 AM CST up reply actions
Oh, yeah, yeah, there's that. But otherwise, we're solid.
Everybody panic! Oh my God, there's a bear loose in the coliseum!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 30, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
PK woes
I can’t figure out why such a difference between the PK this year vs. last year. Is it personnel? Are we missing Mr. Madden? Or Sopel? Yeah, he was great at blocking shots but it seems the current penalty killers are doing a good job at that. Or is it the system? I just don’t get it.
Last year I’d get excited when we went to kill a penalty…I’d rub my hands together and say “time for a shortie”. This year, not so much.
‽ ⅋ ‽
I was thinking about this too.
Are the only changes Versteeg (replaced by Dowell), Madden (replaced by Pisani), and Sopel (replaced by Boynton/Campbell)? I’m not sure how much difference that makes. I don’t feel the sense of urgency I felt last year when we go on the PK. Haviland is in charge of the PK, right? Is there something different in the approach that I’m not seeing?
by Katherine215 on Nov 30, 2010 9:31 AM CST up reply actions
Rumor: Pirri called up from the Rock
Everybody panic! Oh my God, there's a bear loose in the coliseum!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 30, 2010 9:40 AM CST reply actions
So its Pisani or Hossa not playing tonight
"When I look at the net I don't see a goalie." - Pavel Bure
"When I look at the net I see 2 or 3 goalies." - Radek Dvorak.
JESUS CHRIST NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
"When I look at the net I don't see a goalie." - Pavel Bure
"When I look at the net I see 2 or 3 goalies." - Radek Dvorak.
Scott bash Backes
Against logic there is no armor like ignorance
by Johnny Lava on Nov 30, 2010 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
would LOVE to see that
Murdersaurus Rex needs to get his fists bloodied again.
by northernsails on Nov 30, 2010 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
Scott's not that bad.
Wait, oh, JOHN Scott. Never mind.
39 years of pain (1971 loss to Habs) vaporized by one OT goal.
Isn't he a center?
San Francisco Giants: your 2010 WORLD SERIES CHAMPS.
Chicago Blackhawks: 2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPS.
best. year. ever.
by shinkicker on Nov 30, 2010 10:01 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yupp. He played 3rd line against the Wings on Banner Night.
"When I look at the net I don't see a goalie." - Pavel Bure
"When I look at the net I see 2 or 3 goalies." - Radek Dvorak.
by HjammerTime on Nov 30, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah
but they could have moved Sharp back to Wing.
Well, it’s Morin, so that’s nice to see, but not in the situation that I was hoping for.
Everybody panic! Oh my God, there's a bear loose in the coliseum!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 30, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
capital W??
erase erase erase
Everybody panic! Oh my God, there's a bear loose in the coliseum!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 30, 2010 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
UPDATE: It's Morin, not Pirri
Everybody panic! Oh my God, there's a bear loose in the coliseum!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 30, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah, just saw that
but she didn’t clarify that it was just Morin and not both, so at least I wasn’t be self-important.
Everybody panic! Oh my God, there's a bear loose in the coliseum!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 30, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
Morin called up
per NHLBlackhawks
San Francisco Giants: your 2010 WORLD SERIES CHAMPS.
Chicago Blackhawks: 2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPS.
best. year. ever.
by shinkicker on Nov 30, 2010 10:11 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Youth night at the UC!
"When I look at the net I don't see a goalie." - Pavel Bure
"When I look at the net I see 2 or 3 goalies." - Radek Dvorak.
by HjammerTime on Nov 30, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
dem kids can play yo
haha whitesox nostalgia
kind of stupid argument i know but its tuesday and im feeling rather stupid clearly
anyways, how bout that hossa deal that lasts until the end of time at 5.25/per… or at least until I’m 36 aint that some shit
kind of disgusting
if the dude could play 70 games/year for the next 4 healthy it would be ok but I’m seriously, this is getting kinda old and very irritating. like a rash, or watching Kopecky trip on the ice.
he is an awesome player but i dunno about the life time deal… hoss for 12 or crazy marty for 6. totally different players and hoss is defiantly more complete and better at scoring 40 goals per year but at least you could have moved havlat if needed, though maybe there would be no cup, but maybe Bolland would have more than a second assist, oh the craziness of it all
why have we not discussed this as a horrific deal?
At least Soup will be 37 and should still be serviceable or relatively easy to buy out in 3 or 4 years when/if he is dunzo or whatever, whilst hossa will be here significantly longer and impossible to move anywhere… the fuck
Same with that Keith guy
Why do we want to keep these losers around? Keith missed at least a couple of shifts at a time when we really needed him when he got his teeth knocked out. Very irritating indeed.
Everybody panic! Oh my God, there's a bear loose in the coliseum!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 30, 2010 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
No dude totally different
Hoss will be around until he is 42, positively insane, unless they buy out before
Keith’s contract expires when he is 35 which is when he should be exiting his prime and still a legit and very serviceable player, especially if he proves to be anywhere near as durable as Chelios
Totally and completely different situations. The Keith contract is brilliant as far as Im concerned but the hoss one does not seem very attractive.
by TurdFurgeson on Nov 30, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
Doesn't Keith's contract end when he's 39?
by Katherine215 on Nov 30, 2010 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
Hossa contract is insane.
It should have been a lifetime deal
"When I look at the net I don't see a goalie." - Pavel Bure
"When I look at the net I see 2 or 3 goalies." - Radek Dvorak.
by HjammerTime on Nov 30, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
Yea
You’re right, I thought he was 23 when he signed the deal
But still, you get him for his entire prime not just the end of it… And he be serviceable longer, 39 is not as insane as 42. Especially for a defender.
Unless they plan to do a bunch of buying out as soon as the front load is gone…
But a 31-36 year old forward you have 5.5mil tied up for (8 in real money) playing 50-60 games a year (maybe maybe not healthy) seems kind of a waste? Not like they didn’t win with out him last year? I don’t know, I just think it needs to be added to the list of absurd contracts is all.
Where 10 years of an elite defender (26-36) seems way more reasonable with the last three being a wash, or merry Christmas here’s a check for the 8 dollars we owe you since you got an ass ton in the first few years
by TurdFurgeson on Nov 30, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
last year
no Hossa, no Cup, nuff said.
We like our people.
by cliffkoroll on Nov 30, 2010 11:47 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
But how did you jump to this conclusion that Hossa will only play 50-60 games a year?
Based on his past where he often played 80-81 games per year?
Or more recent years like 08 and 09 where he played 95 games a year including the playoffs?
Or was it last year when, despite missing a large chunk of the season, he stilled played 79 games including the playoffs?
What if Keith gets injured tomorrow? Will you suddenly have the amazing Capt Hindsight ability to call that a bad signing too?
Everybody panic! Oh my God, there's a bear loose in the coliseum!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 30, 2010 11:48 AM CST up reply actions
we should've signed Hossa to a 1-year deal, not 12!
and we should’ve locked Toews and Kane up YEARS ago, before they got too good!
And we should never have traded Buff away, he should have been signed for less than $3m then we could’ve kept him!
We should never have signed Bolland to 5 years at that money, now he’s got back issues.
We should have kept Versteeg and traded Kopecky for Stalberg!
We should never have let Boynton on the ice while Hossa was practicing.
THIS IS SO HARD, KNOWING EVERYTHING THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE TO AVOID CATASTROPHIC CONSEQUENCES. YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW HARD IT IS.
/Captain Hindsight
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks, blogs at Blackhawks Down Low, and now also contributes to Intent to Blow.)
by chiblackhawks on Nov 30, 2010 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
Taking wayyyyyy to seriously
I’m just saying that it doesn’t make any sense that the Soup contract always has to be the end all be all for shit deals
He hasnt played 80 games 06-07
72, 74 with the wings and ducks
57 last year
21/26 this year and counting
And 12 years… Dude I could see 5 or 6 years at 7/per, trust me hes an awesome player but he is going to eat up a lot of space at an unattractive number for a significant amount of time.
I agree with actually all the moves that they had made. I fully support the notion that they probably dont win anything with out him.
I am more than ok with buff and verbeauty out of the picture.
If Keith gets injured is a totally different situation. You can justify a guy in his prime big money for 13 years because he should give you more good years than bad, doesnt make it a bad deal. Thats like saying if D-Rose gets hurt the Bulls are fucked… No shit. 26-39 is not crazy you get all of what the potential best years are. Elite defenders seem to break down until around 35 so not a total biff.
30-42 is kind of nuts since there are only 2-3 years of 40 goal / 70+point potential. I don’t see him playing another 80 game season, especially since he has looked hurt in half the games he has played this year.
8-10 years of elite vs 3-4 is kind of a big deal.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=479768
Current NHL over 35 elite
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=497709
All time NHL over 35
5.25/per is a lot of coin to pay players at that point in their career. And in that point I mean the 7 years from 35-42….
by TurdFurgeson on Nov 30, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
But they're only paying him $1 per year for the last 4 years!!!
So the Hawks have basically signed him until he is 37. It’s called cap circumvention!
And how are you now comparing 8-10 years of elite play to 3-4 years?? Now he’s washed up at 34?
If Keith gets injured is a totally different situation. You can justify a guy in his prime big money for 13 years because he should give you more good years than bad, doesnt make it a bad deal.
How does Keith getting hurt make that a different situation? I’m lost.
Everybody panic! Oh my God, there's a bear loose in the coliseum!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 30, 2010 1:11 PM CST up reply actions
you just don't get pop culture
anyway, we wouldn’t have fit Hossa under the cap for $7m/year with a 5-6 year deal, and the understanding (though it can’t be proved, mwahahaha) is that Hossa’s likely to retire before he finishes the rest of his contract anyway. So that “unsightly” 5.25 cap hit probably won’t stay there for very long.
It’s also a little too soon to be complaining about the future degeneration of his play because he’s hurt (again) right now, considering you claim you’re okay if he’s playing 70 games per year for the next four years (which is roughly where he’ll end up this year).
Overall: This is confusing in that you’re talking hypothetical futures and going revisionist (shouldn’t have signed him to that godawful contract! Huh? what? Most everyone was fine with it.) at the same time. Which is, in its own way, pretty impressive.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks, blogs at Blackhawks Down Low, and now also contributes to Intent to Blow.)
by chiblackhawks on Nov 30, 2010 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
buyer's remorse?
My question though, is how can you say that just because a player is old means they are going to be bad. The Detroit Dick Slappers are pretty much all within three feet of their walkers, and they are still at the top of their collective game. 40 is the new 30, or whatever…
I hope 42 is still the old 42 though
/HGTTG’d by a 42 yr old
Everybody panic! Oh my God, there's a bear loose in the coliseum!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 30, 2010 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
Haha Godamnit
I’m happy hes on the team and yes I agree hes going to get bought out or retire before it is up, yes huge part of cup, better than Havlat ect….
I think my original point was its a long contract and if seen out to its fullest extent having some 40 year old dude at the production rates of most 37-40 year old dudes (however good they are/may have been) is not going to be worth the entire 5.25/per. Most guys at that age get a 5 or 6 year deal not 12. I think the craziness of that and how it seems to have been forgotten is all I was trying to point out but obviously got a little to involved.
Haha, not trying to start a war or hate on the dude, guys get hurt its a contact sport but I wanted that contract included in the big money/could be a problem later category so Soup doesn’t feel so alone.
And I mean like 3 years from today so i guess 4-5 total of being a bad ass.
Way to soon to be complaining I agree, still made for an entertaining discussion. And I could totally live with 70 games/year and 60 points.
Yea, biff’d that one… My bad
by TurdFurgeson on Nov 30, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
Now that you've back away from the ledge :P
He’s Hossa. Relax. We just need to send someone into the future to get replacement parts. That shouldn’t be too difficult, right?
Everybody panic! Oh my God, there's a bear loose in the coliseum!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 30, 2010 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
Isn't that what Pisani's doing right now?
Number one sign of a crappy goaltender: he keeps telling the Goal Judge to "Get ready!"
Nice thing about the CBA though,
Let’s say we put Hossa on LTIR and let him completly heal (say rest of the season and let him come back next year. It’s done wonders for Urlacher). Hawks can exceed the cap by Hossa’s caphit for his replacement.
I’m thinking we do this. I’m not saying this is a lost season but I’d rather have a reinvigorated Hossa next season with that $4M in cap space eaten by DaydreamNation’s bonuses back than have him push through the injuries this season.
Against logic there is no armor like ignorance
by Johnny Lava on Nov 30, 2010 10:45 AM CST up reply actions
Believe it or not..
This team can compete deep into the playoffs. We cant just throw away years. We roll with the elite now.
"When I look at the net I don't see a goalie." - Pavel Bure
"When I look at the net I see 2 or 3 goalies." - Radek Dvorak.
by HjammerTime on Nov 30, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
I'm making the argument that Hossa may not be as elite as he can be
due to nagging injuries. Given an extended amount of time off, he could come back to the level he played at 2-3 years ago.
I used Urlacher as an example. He went through a couple of seasons with leg and back problems, looked like he was almost finished in the league, then got hurt in the 1st game last year and missed the rest of the season. Now look at him play. It’s the dominate Urlacher from before those injures.
Yes we can compete this season, but you also have to look at next season and beyond. Which would you rather have? 80% Hossa from here on out or No Hossa this season with 100% Hossa next season and beyond?
Against logic there is no armor like ignorance
by Johnny Lava on Nov 30, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
good point for sure
urlacher also has a healthy lance briggs and jpeppers making life a whole lot easier while hoss has tkop…
by TurdFurgeson on Nov 30, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
Give you 2 words why Urlacher made a name for himself years ago:
Ted Washington
As the DT/DE’s go, so too does a one Mr. Brian Urlacher.
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that's a pretty general statement
Urlacher’s biggest asset is his ability to cover the middle zone in the cover 2, which is independent of D line play (to a degree). Urlacher has never been Ray Lewis against the run. I agree that in the run game, Urlacher goes as his Dline goes, but the run game isn’t his strength.
As far as lance briggs making Urlacher’s life easier (TurdFurgeson’s point), I’m not sure that this statement is entirely true either. Briggs is the weakside linebacker, and he makes a lot of tackles coming across into the strong side, but that’s easier to do with Urlacher and Pisa taking on blockers. Don’t get me wrong, a great player like briggs makes the entire defense look better, and briggs does good work on counters and other weakside running plays, but it’s not like Briggs is out there taking on double teams while Urlacher gets all of the mop up tackles.
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not other than he is not on the ice for the morning skate. fuck.
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by west_fulton on Nov 30, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
Damn it damn it damn it
Just when it looked like a positive streak was in the cards. I feel bad for Nick; he must feel like absolute shit.
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Hossa has missed 2 of the 5 games I've been to already this season.
Now another one. DAMMIT.
I think its because I chose to buy his jersey. This shit always happens to me.
"When I look at the net I don't see a goalie." - Pavel Bure
"When I look at the net I see 2 or 3 goalies." - Radek Dvorak.
by HjammerTime on Nov 30, 2010 10:46 AM CST up reply actions
It's not just me with the bad luck jerseys!!!
See that, everyone? Blame HT, too, not just me.
by Katherine215 on Nov 30, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
Next Jersey?
TomoKop
"When I look at the net I don't see a goalie." - Pavel Bure
"When I look at the net I see 2 or 3 goalies." - Radek Dvorak.
by HjammerTime on Nov 30, 2010 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
Or Boynton?
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