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Injury Without The Insult - Hawks 4, Flames 2


Tonight's contest with the Calgary Flames certainly was not pretty by any stretch of the imagination. But two points is two points, which is a result that's been disconcertingly difficult to come by at the United Center this season.

Things got off to an ominous start as Patrick Kane was helped off the ice after oddly twisting his left leg while being checked by Cory Sarich along the boards. I'll have more on this down in the bullets, but the initial appearance of this did not look good. Kaner's absence made 4 power play markers this evening an even more shocking result, but it's one we'll take. The first of the four came off the stick of Bryan Bickell in the high slot, as he snapped a shot past Miikka Kiprusoff after being given about 8 seconds to wind up for it. Six minutes later Dave Bolland finally put the puck in the back of the net, potting a back-door tap in on a goal mouth feed from Jonathan Toews. Calgary responded with two power play goals of their own, the first of which came from Jarome Iginla, who himself was left alone in the slot as Patrick Sharp and Jonathan Toews had some miscommunication at the blue line. Anton Babchuck unleashed a bomb from the left point, and suddenly the game was tied up. A late penalty by David Moss for whacking Jack Skille across the face with a high stick resulted in Jonathan Toews poking home the puck in a scrum in front, and the Hawks would not relinquish that lead. 

The second and third periods were quite a bit calmer, but the Hawks certainly tried to make things interesting by taking three straight penalties in the third, and Corey Crawford was helped out by the post on an Iginla bid that had been tipped by Olli Jokinen. A late penalty by Jay Bouwmeester forced the Flames to pull Kiprusoff while short handed, and Bolland iced the game with an empty netter from behind the center stripe. Hawks 4, Flames 2.

Observations

  • Patrick Kane's injury did not look good at all. It appeared that he was putting weight on his left leg when he was helped back into the tunnel, but the twisting way in which he went down is something that will make us hold our collective breaths. My guess is a sprained MCL and out for a couple of weeks, but we'll see if we get any information. Keep in mind he suffered a similar injury two years ago at the hands of Dan Cleary, and came back after only two games, albeit at a diminished capacity. Needless to say, if Kane is out for a prolonged period of time, the sledding is going to be that much tougher for the Hawks.
  • That said, Jonathan Toews finally resembled the captain we all know he can be with arguably the team's best offensive threat out hurt. Toews had a goal and an assist, and his goal was ended up being the winner. He also went 19 for 26 at the dot in 23 minutes of ice time, and was +7 in Corsi. More of that, please. 
  • Hey, a Dave Bolland sighting! After appearing ambulatory for the first time in months on Friday, Bolls finally dented the twine twice, though both were essentially at empty nets. He also was dead-on 50% at the dot, going 13 for 26, and was +1 in Corsi, while facing the Iginla line the majority of the evening. Perhaps things are trending up for Dave, but he'll need at least another week straight of this sort of play for me to even kind of buy in.
  • While I've been impressed by Jake Dowell thus far this year, and he normally picks his spots well when he scraps, it was a dumbfuck move of him to give Steve Staios that fight late in the second. With the Hawks essentially at 10 forwards with Kane out and Scott in the lineup, they could ill afford to have another one sit for 5 minutes. Things got even dicier when Patrick Sharp then took a hooking penalty, leaving the Hawks with only Toews and Bolland to take draws on the ensuing penalty, which the Hawks were fortunate to kill off.
  • Corey Crawford was once again solid this evening, allowing nothing at even strength again. While he arguably could have had both Calgary goals, both were the result of blown coverages elsewhere, and he stood tall when he needed to. He's now won his last 6 starts, and we may have just watched him usurp the starting position. Stay tuned.
  • I think another penalty just got called.
  • Don't look now, but the Hawks have outshot opponents in 8 of their last 10 games, by an average 34.1 to 25.6 margin. Those are the types of numbers we're used to seeing. 
  • Update:  Friend of SCH Tracey Myers is reporting that Quenneville stated that Kane's injury is "not serious" but will be "out for a bit", so it looks like my initial prognostication was correct.
Player of The Game
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As was noted above, Toews put the team on his back tonight when they could have very easily packed it in after Kaner was hurt, or after Calgary scored two quick goals. Toews now has 24 points in 29 games, which is right about the pace we expect him at. He'll need to shoulder even more of the load  if Kane is out for any lengthy stretch of time.

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Both Sassone and Kuc reporting...

…via Q, that Kaner’s injury “is not real serious”…right now I’ll take hope anywhere I can get it (especially considering how bad it looked when it first happened).

by bluekoolaide on Dec 5, 2010 10:00 PM CST reply actions  

did anyone else notice kane looked like he was able to bend...

Both his knees after the hit? It looked to me like he turned himself over and was bracing himself on his hands and knees for a bit? That to me points more to ankle.
Here’s to hoping Kane’s lower body is as resilient as his liver proved to be this summer!

by T.Rece on Dec 5, 2010 10:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

whew!!!

I had myself convinced that he was out for the season because I am after all, a fan of Chicago sports.

by Skags on Dec 6, 2010 8:23 AM CST up reply actions  

So tonight was only my 2nd UC game of the season

but why the hell is it so quiet there now? I felt like I was in a morgue at times, it was so quiet. I thought at first everyone was just engrossed in the game, but I’m not so sure.

by Katherine215 on Dec 5, 2010 10:21 PM CST reply actions  

It aint the playoffs

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by BigCSouthside on Dec 5, 2010 10:25 PM CST up reply actions  

It was louder during regular season games last year

My stepdad and I both noticed how quiet it was. I think someone mentioned it here, too. Very strange.

by Katherine215 on Dec 5, 2010 10:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Last year's team was a little bit more exciting

But a game like tonight, I wouldn’t think to be a crowd killer

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Chicago Blackhawks: 2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPS.
best. year. ever.

by shinkicker on Dec 5, 2010 10:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Was it more of a nervous silence, or bored silence? If it was nervous, maybe they were just waiting for the hawks to blow the game or something.

"Each of us is full of shit in our own special way. We are all shitty little snowflakes dancing in the universe." -- Lewis Black

by LanceFister3 on Dec 5, 2010 10:40 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not sure.

I didn’t feel nervous, so I didn’t interpret it that way, but it could’ve been. There was hardly any chanting or spontaneous cheering, which is what I mean by quiet. Everyone applauded on PK clears but that was about it.

by Katherine215 on Dec 5, 2010 10:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I was just thinking that

I remember it being louder in the playoffs, noticeably. Also, tonights game was nuts, but also a sunday game against a team that really is not doing well. I imagine the VAN game was louder. It couldnt be as bad as it was a few years ago, when you could shout to someone across the ice in the 300 level and they could hear you clearly

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by BigCSouthside on Dec 5, 2010 10:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Honestly, I was tempted to scream

“Sharpie, I love you” because it was that quiet at times and I was certain he would hear me.

by Katherine215 on Dec 5, 2010 10:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I would love to have seen that on TV.

Try it next time it’s quiet in there.

Cheering on the Blackhawks long before "Remember the Roar" in 1993 and beyond "One Goal" which was achieved in 2010.

by stacie7 on Dec 5, 2010 10:46 PM CST up reply actions  

so tell me again

WHY didn’t this happen. So far, I haven’t heard a good reason as to why you didn’t do it.

happy ninja may seem happy, but may have to kick your ass if you don't get it in gear.

by puppetmasterp on Dec 6, 2010 1:23 AM CST up reply actions  

This.

Tremendously tremendous!

Beautius J. Beautius!

by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Dec 6, 2010 4:53 AM CST up reply actions  

you should have

i bet 10,000 people would have heard you, and you would have gotten a laugh out of the crowd. seriously.

it’s funny- i didn’t really notice how quiet it was until you mentioned it. I’d like to think most people are wathcing the game maybe? maybe not?

i think a couple factors are at work:

1. the last three years, the momentum kept building and the noise lvel kept increaisng, and, well, everything kind of exploded. a bit of a Stanley Cup hangover among the fans is not surprising.

2. The “other shoe”. It’s been a rough year at home, and the crowd is a bit gun shy after several blown leads at home this season.

3. The Irish dancer dude has gone all Binny’s and is no longer around to whip the crowd into a frenzy for the crucial final five minutes.

We like our people.

by cliffkoroll on Dec 6, 2010 7:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Fuck that asshole

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Things have changed forever, we're the Ramblin' Boys of Pleasure

by McClure on Dec 6, 2010 8:53 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

i don't blame the guy for cashing in

this is America.

the thing is, originally, it was spontaneous. Doesn’t that count for something in the age of the “fan-o-meter”?

We like our people.

by cliffkoroll on Dec 6, 2010 9:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I think he was unemployed too.

This was only my 2nd game this year – has he not done it at all?

by Katherine215 on Dec 6, 2010 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

i've missed a couple games

i think i recall seeing him once this season.

We like our people.

by cliffkoroll on Dec 6, 2010 9:21 AM CST up reply actions  

I could care less if he cashed in. I’m sure that fuck didn’t need the money that badly if he already had season tickets in the 100 level, but more power to him.

He just looks like every jock toolbag Jersey Shore wannabe, not to mention having a serious case of “Look-At-Me-Itis”, which is enough to incur my wrath regardless of whether he’s a nice guy, loves his grandmother, or works Christmas day at a soup kitchen.

Second City Hockey
Things have changed forever, we're the Ramblin' Boys of Pleasure

by McClure on Dec 6, 2010 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

If you like the tune KtG

The video is pretty badass. Much better than the UC guy :p

by hawkeytalk on Dec 6, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

The video is great!

I used it to learn to play part of the song on the violin. :) And sometimes I play it at work when I want to wake myself up.

by Katherine215 on Dec 6, 2010 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

tell us how you really feel McClure

happy ninja may seem happy, but may have to kick your ass if you don't get it in gear.

by puppetmasterp on Dec 6, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

you'll be happy to know that people who know him say he's a jerk

but he also doesn’t own season tickets at the 100 level. He has friends who do, or something.

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by chiblackhawks on Dec 8, 2010 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

After thinking some more,

I’m leaning towards watching the game and option 2. I personally didn’t feel very nervous since they were playing well (aside from penalties), but I can see how others might ahve been anxious given recent history at home.

I was very bummed the Irish dancer wasn’t there. :(

I’ll have to give some serious thought to professing my feelings to Sharpie at the next game.

by Katherine215 on Dec 6, 2010 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Another thought

With the economy still in the shitter you have more corporate douchebag types and more “the Hawks are good, let’s go to a game with all the cool kids” types attending games and less of the long time fan types (like myself) who struggled the last two years to afford tickets for 6-8 game (after going to 20 or more prior seasons) and this year are down to 1-2 games simply do to price and availability. I also know a few season ticket holders selling alot more tickets this year instead of going to games.

by runningquicklynowhere on Dec 6, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

not so sure

there’s probably some of this, but you always get more douchebags for playoff games, and those games were pretty loud.

My eye test says the crowd ain’t too different from last year.

in some ways, i feel like the fan base is maturing. Compared to last year, the Hawks have sucked at home, but the booing has been pretty sparse (heard some after Calgary tied it up last night), way down from last year (which I could never understand), and the crowd, though quiet, has generally been behid the team.

We like our people.

by cliffkoroll on Dec 6, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

The fans expect the team to win now

It’s not like before when every game was a chance for the Hawks to prove they belonged. After last night’s loss the Flames fell to last in the West. While it’s nice to avenge the last ass kicking, it’s hard to get super excited about beating a last place team. I think there’s only a handful of teams that fans don’t expect the Hawks to beat, so if a Calgary, Minnesota or Florida show up to the UC it just isn’t going to be as loud as last year, or the year before, because even if the makeup of the crowd is the same the expectations have changed.

by Scott13 on Dec 6, 2010 1:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Nailed it.

I know I definitely watch the games thru a different lense this season.
The fan’s expectations for the team have most certainly shifted.

"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter

by nextgame on Dec 6, 2010 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I think there were a few games early in the season

where the Hawks would be down by 1 and the crowd tried really hard to will them on. It didn’t work, and it doesn’t seem to happen anymore, at least not to that extent…

by VerStig on Dec 5, 2010 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Winning Ugly....

is still winning.

angry bird is angry .

by Da'Ostrich on Dec 5, 2010 10:24 PM CST reply actions  

Ugh.

Don’t like Kane being out. Nice to see Bolland finally looking spry.

This probably means more Morin (yay) and more of the John Scott Experience (meh). Maybe a cameo by Beach? More likely Smith or Pirri re-appear if Hossa and Pisani don’t come back for Dallas.

Ugh. Injuries are probably our worst enemy right now (outside of Boynton).

by talkendo on Dec 5, 2010 10:32 PM CST reply actions  

Injuries

I think coming into this season one of the caveats was that this time would be fine if we could endure the injury bug. Well, the bug has arrived with Hossa, Kane and the Pope-ah out for the next few days/weeks.

Glad to see more Morin but I fear what the Q line generator will bring us in the future. I don’t think we have the cap space to bring Beach up though.

angry bird is angry .

by Da'Ostrich on Dec 5, 2010 10:43 PM CST up reply actions  

The Indian said that Beach

has been a 1-man conga line to the box. I don’t think we’ll need help in that area after tonight’s performance. I’d agree we see Smith or Pirri before Beach.

by Katherine215 on Dec 5, 2010 10:46 PM CST up reply actions  

64 PIM in 22 games

Yea….I’d say that qualifies as a one-man conga line…….if Kyle Hagel didn’t have 63 PIM in the same 22 games…..

angry bird is angry .

by Da'Ostrich on Dec 5, 2010 11:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Over qualifies him as a threat to Boyton's Knuckle-head title

"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson

by ccm on Dec 6, 2010 5:19 AM CST up reply actions  

More Morin now = less Morin in the future

Remember, he’s getting really close to that 10 game mark. Once he hits that, say goodbye to another year of watching him play.

by Ban on Dec 6, 2010 1:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Once he hits 10, he's likely here to stay for the year

his play over the 3 year entry level deal will decide whether he stays long term or not (when the whole salary cap thing gets figured in).

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The Cup is ours until someone takes it from us.

by krome on Dec 6, 2010 8:35 AM CST up reply actions  

I’m not going to worry about that as the salary cap structure amy be entirely different by the time his 3 years is up.

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by hawks61 on Dec 6, 2010 9:15 AM CST up reply actions  

* may

2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.

by hawks61 on Dec 6, 2010 9:16 AM CST up reply actions  

I think we're

overstating the nine game rule at times. This team will do what it need to do to win. If Morin proves he’s capable of being an NHLer now, he’ll stay. If it seems he needs more seasoning, he’ll play his 8 games and we’ll see him again next year.

by aeroplane on Dec 6, 2010 9:25 AM CST up reply actions  

If more Morin now means less losing now....then more Morin it is

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"When I look at the net I see 2 or 3 goalies." - Radek Dvorak.

by HjammerTime on Dec 6, 2010 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

well there's always Hendry

no, seriously, we have this guy named Jordan Hendry that gets scratched for each game. But he’s on the roster, I swear.

by ahnfire on Dec 6, 2010 3:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Campbell for Kids hats

So anyone who had wanted one, I’m so sorry, but I completely forgot to look for them tonight. I can’t believe it slipped my mind. :(

by Katherine215 on Dec 5, 2010 10:41 PM CST reply actions  

it's only a 5 hour road trip

not bad at all….

happy ninja may seem happy, but may have to kick your ass if you don't get it in gear.

by puppetmasterp on Dec 6, 2010 1:25 AM CST up reply actions  

I really like it when Toews tries to carry the scoring load

I always think back to his history of amazing goals (and, say his hat trick game vs. Van) and know that he has some amazing offensive skills that he doesn’t always pull out. Seems like he’s often trying to focus just on the other (very solid) aspects of his game, almost like he’s too unselfish a player at times. I don’t know if it’s just me but he seemed a lot more aggressive tonight.

Also on the Dowell fight, first off, he picks good spots but they never seem to work. And I think Edzo was pointing out (whether true or not) that he was sort of acknowledging that he delivered an elbow and accepted the fight because of it. Maybe that’s just a roundabout explanation.

by VerStig on Dec 5, 2010 11:20 PM CST reply actions  

Kane said somehting earlier this year

about how everyone was kinda expecting someone would step up at key times, instead of taking it upon themselves to step-up.

Last night, with Kane and Hossa out and Toews playing with a couple schlubs (no offense Vic and Jack), i totally expected him to rise to the occasion like he did. In a way, it’s kinda liberating for Johnny to just play monster instead of working out plays with Kane, Sharp, or Hossa.

We like our people.

by cliffkoroll on Dec 6, 2010 7:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Stepping up

I’m in no way saying he’s been consistently good as of late by any stretch of the imagination, but Kopecky had one of his best games of the year last night. He was extremely physical especially along the boards, something we hadn’t seen from him – ever. Often he battles, but loses or doesn’t play physical. Last night he put some nice hits on guys. Would like to see more of that please.

Your uncle molests collies.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Dec 6, 2010 9:16 AM CST up reply actions  

his previous game

After being as bad as he was, he had better put together a more physical effort.

Kop’s best roll will be that physical presence that opens up opportunities for others.

by aeroplane on Dec 6, 2010 9:28 AM CST up reply actions  

He also had a sweet takeaway

I think in the 3rd. Definitely a better game. He hardly fell down as well.

by hawkeytalk on Dec 6, 2010 9:30 AM CST up reply actions  

On that play

my wife turned to me and said “Looked like he was channeling his inner Hossa on that play.” It was a really nice backchecking takeaway.
I commented that he hasn’t lost his helmet recently either. She opined that maybe they finally got him one that fits, or else he’s discovered the wonders of velcro.

"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter

by nextgame on Dec 6, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

I appreciate the "Two points is two points" ...

motto as much as the next fella, but, come on, this shit is boring as fuck. The last two games I’ve actually been forced to have conversations with the family members i’m watching the game with. The Hawks need to get some god damn zip in their step. If every third game is going to be like the last two periods of this game I’m going to add Sunday to my drinking nights.

by Billy Charlesbois on Dec 5, 2010 11:22 PM CST reply actions  

I'll take a boring win over an exciting loss any day

"Each of us is full of shit in our own special way. We are all shitty little snowflakes dancing in the universe." -- Lewis Black

by LanceFister3 on Dec 5, 2010 11:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I hear that a lot when I chirp about stuff like this ...

does any other sports fan value entertainment as much as your team winning? Or am I a man an island here?

by Billy Charlesbois on Dec 6, 2010 12:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Maybe it's just me but

I am entertained any time my team wins.

Cheering on the Blackhawks long before "Remember the Roar" in 1993 and beyond "One Goal" which was achieved in 2010.

by stacie7 on Dec 6, 2010 1:21 AM CST up reply actions  

I think what we're learning here is it's just me ...

so what do you people look for when you’re watching a hockey game without the hawks involved? Do you just pick a team and then hope they ooze out a victory?

by Billy Charlesbois on Dec 6, 2010 10:17 AM CST up reply actions  

when it's not the hawks

i want an exciting game. when it is the hawks, i want a win, regardless of how exciting the game is.

by Sgarbs04 on Dec 6, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

Ok, Ok, Ok

the more I think about it, I get pretty upset when the Hawks lose. I can be a real baby about it. So I must just want them to win too.

by Billy Charlesbois on Dec 6, 2010 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

Really

A hawk loss can ruin a weekend while the most pathetic horseshoe-toss win still makes me happy.

Jesus Christ walks into a hotel. He hands the innkeeper three nails, and he asks...Can you put me up for the night?

by hairhelmet on Dec 6, 2010 2:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey ATL horseshoe tos win made me happy as a clam.

Especially when the opposite is hearing family members razzing me for losing to their team. Plus it’s 2 points toward the playoffs. I always look at it this way. You can’t get in the playoffs in Nov. But, you can sure get left out.

by neverhome30728 on Dec 6, 2010 10:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh, yeah, no doubt.

I was a Hawk fan living in Dallas during the Stars’ first Dallas season. That put a fine point on the definition for ‘insufferable’. Hearing how matveechuck and mo-dan-o were going to wup up on my team…blarg.

Jesus Christ walks into a hotel. He hands the innkeeper three nails, and he asks...Can you put me up for the night?

by hairhelmet on Dec 7, 2010 1:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I lived in Houston at the time

and never missed the Hawks when they visited Dallas (I think it was 3 games a year). Tickets were $18-22 a pop at the time, which was very reasonable. To be fair to the locals, did you really expect them to know much about hockey considering it was Dallas?

What I always found strange was how loud it got during fights. Sure, people get excited just about anywhere for a good fight, but in Dallas it was THE reason to watch a game. Never quite understood it as someone who liked (and still does) to watch the game without much interruption.

by aeroplane on Dec 7, 2010 9:32 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, fighting is the only thing they understood

And root for the thing with the star on it. Its not hard to understand whom you should be rooting for in a fight. Also, Dallasians know they need to be obnoxious so they often crank up the volume to make sure you understand.

Jesus Christ walks into a hotel. He hands the innkeeper three nails, and he asks...Can you put me up for the night?

by hairhelmet on Dec 7, 2010 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Personally

When it’s the Hawks, I dont care how the hell it’s won as long as it’s 2 points in the standings.

When I watch any game through center ice, I with any game that looks like it could be exciting and enjoy the best sport in the world.

by Jrs23 on Dec 6, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Generally I just enjoy the watching the great game of hockey.

Although I due tend to focus in on games that might mean something to the Hawks (i.e. other central division teams games first, then other western conf. games where the Hawks place in the conf. standings would be effected.)

"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter

by nextgame on Dec 6, 2010 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm with you

I do tend to start with Division or western conf first

by Jrs23 on Dec 6, 2010 10:38 AM CST up reply actions  

I'll watch just about anything.

When it comes to games that the Hawks are not involved in, I usually root against any division or conference competition or rival of the Hawks. In the East, I prefer watching the Penguins and Caps lose.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on Dec 6, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

not enough fucking perspective

go watch a game from 2005.

We like our people.

by cliffkoroll on Dec 6, 2010 7:33 AM CST up reply actions  

and compare

to take just one example. Duncan Keith made 15 great plays last night, like he does most nights.

We like our people.

by cliffkoroll on Dec 6, 2010 7:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Duncs was fun to watch last night. So cool under pressure. like he didnt even respect the calgary forecheck for shit. fun.
I also enjoy watching Bolly slash opponents stick in half as he did to jokeenenin and no call. love it.

"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"

by west_fulton on Dec 6, 2010 8:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes, it was nice to see Duncs using his speed

instead of attempting ill-advised home run passes. I didn’t “love” the Bolland no-call. I was more “relieved” that it wasn’t called. It would have been at a very bad time with only a 1 goal lead. Not smart IMO.

Your uncle molests collies.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Dec 6, 2010 9:23 AM CST up reply actions  

I loved it because he got away with it. Ive seen him do it more than once – post-whistle, slash the stick out of an opponents hands in front of the Hawks goaltender and either skate away or shoot the guys stick to the boards and skate away. Ive never seen it called. I think opponents hate him, which I like.

"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"

by west_fulton on Dec 6, 2010 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

LOLZ

I see what you mean. Hopefully it’s a good sign going forward for Bolly. Maybe the rat is back?

Your uncle molests collies.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Dec 6, 2010 9:42 AM CST up reply actions  

He tripped Richards in the SCFs last year

Right after a face-off. Hooked/pulled his skate while watching the ref’s eyes to be sure he wasn’t watching. It was great.

by hawkeytalk on Dec 6, 2010 9:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Actually, that was the one year since '92 I didn't watch ...

Actually, that was the one year since ‘92 I didn’t watch. I was one of those people who said I’d never watch again after the lockout. Then after they drafted Kane I threw that principled stand on the the pile with all the others. Your point is well taken, it could always be worse. However, at least those awful pre-lockout teams you knew what you were getting—watching Mark Bell Blossom into a fine young man. They didn’t hide the fact that making anagrams with Radim Vrbata’s name was more exciting than watching him play.

I just haven’t really warmed up to any of the new guys yet. I’m sure I’ll come around soon.

by Billy Charlesbois on Dec 6, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

Ditto

But that doesn’t seem to be uncommon. I think he warms up every single female who is not blind.

by MissE on Dec 6, 2010 12:23 PM CST up reply actions  

yes

omg, we agree. wtf?

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by puppetmasterp on Dec 6, 2010 8:02 AM CST up reply actions  

though i'd still us rather win

but if there’s entertainment value, i appreciate it. like the Canucks game the other day.

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by puppetmasterp on Dec 6, 2010 8:04 AM CST up reply actions  

There's no doubt I'd rather win as well ...

and winning ugly is a fine, noble idea. I’m just saying at some point … blech!

by Billy Charlesbois on Dec 6, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Now we're going to be down

two A-list power play guys (Kane and Hossa) so hopefully this will finally get Sharp off the point and into the mix. I thought there was a PP shift late in the game where Sharp was on the point with the first line, and then at forward with the second line but it could have just been from half a change.

by Scott13 on Dec 6, 2010 1:34 AM CST reply actions  

standing near the net is NOT getting close to scoring a goal

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by krome on Dec 6, 2010 8:36 AM CST up reply actions  

I believe

He either whiffed or shanked whilst standing near the net last night. My first thought was the worlds magnetic poles must have shifted.

by hawkeytalk on Dec 6, 2010 8:55 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I thought I saw that!

That would explain the sudden dizziness I felt as the world abruptly shifted.

by Katherine215 on Dec 6, 2010 9:23 AM CST up reply actions  

felt a shift in the balance of the force, did you?

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by puppetmasterp on Dec 6, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

I felt a great disturbance in the Force,

as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear[ed] something terrible ha[d] happened.

But no, it was just Scott missing an opportunity.

by Katherine215 on Dec 6, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

A puck could potentially hit him and go in

He’s an awfully big target. So in that sense, it is “closer.”

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Dec 6, 2010 9:25 AM CST up reply actions  

each game Fluffy is getting closer and closer.........

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by ccm on Dec 6, 2010 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Kane's injury

A sprained MCL McClure? I thought it was a high-ankle sprain? Regardless I hope he takes all the time he needs to heal as he was a mere shadow of himself when he came back too early 2 years ago. My guess is 2-3 weeks out of the line-up, time for guys like Skille, Morin, and Disappear Dave to show up on a consistant basis.

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by hawks61 on Dec 6, 2010 8:56 AM CST reply actions  

I wasn’t comparing the two injuries, I was merely saying he came back much quicker than expected two years ago. The only Dr. I compare favorably to in medical knowledge is Dr. Pepper, so I was merely taking a shot in the dark. It looks like it is in fact the same ankle as two years ago, and it’s going to be 4-6 weeks from what I’m seeing, but we’ll have something later.

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by McClure on Dec 6, 2010 8:59 AM CST up reply actions  

My apologies I thought you were. I do agree that he came back from that injury too soon, maybe he took Burish’s comments after a 6-0 drubbing of Phoenix “we didn’t Kaner” a little too serious?

4-6 weeks is serious if he’s out that long. I’m hoping only 2-3, but we’ll see.

I also prefer Dr. McGillicuddy myself. His Fireball remedy helps me get through these torturous Canadian winters.

2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
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by hawks61 on Dec 6, 2010 9:06 AM CST up reply actions  

I sure as hell hope it's not 4-6

But it’s better than him being gone for the season. It’s a tough loss no matter what but I wonder if they would put him on LTIR to free up some space for a couple weeks

by Jrs23 on Dec 6, 2010 9:07 AM CST up reply actions  

hawks61 stupid and pathetic observations:

A win is a win eventhough the game often resembled a pre-season game from 2005. The officiating was an atrocity and should never be allowed back at the UC any time soon.

- I wonder how many cab drivers were lined up to take Kane to the hospital?

- Toews looked like the captain come playoff time. It was like he morphed back into his Canada mode and carried the team. Then again doesn’t always do that against Canadian teams?

- Dave Bolland is alive. Skille was flying. And Boynton was … well uselss as usual.

- Who starts Wednesday? I say Turco, for nothing else that a start against Montreal last year really helped turn Huet’s season around (for a while anyways) and this could be the same for Turco. Who knows, it might be his last chance to showcase that he’s still “the man” for the job.

- A win on Wednesday could give the ’Hawks a 7-3 record over a 10-game stretch that they needed to after being .500 through the first 20 this season.

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by hawks61 on Dec 6, 2010 9:13 AM CST reply actions  

It was nice to get a "dirty win"

We haven’t been on the right side of the score sheet much this season in those games.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Dec 6, 2010 9:28 AM CST up reply actions  

- the officiating was fine. Speaking of which, did you guys know that the average NHL ref makes $150k a year? Not a bad paycheck.

- Regarding the goaltending, I think Q will go with the hot hand. Not saying that Crawford is the better goalie, but the rest of the team shows up with him in net.

- The most important thing about winning Wednesday’s game is beating a conference opponent; one who is ahead of us in the standings. The current team is obviously playing much better then what we saw in the beginning of the season. In fact, I still have confidence in them being able to pull games out without Kane in the line up.

by aeroplane on Dec 6, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Sucks that we have to start scoreboard watching again. Hasn't been that way for awhile!

Always rooting for the Eastern Conference teams now when they come to the West. Looking at the standings is seriously depressing business these days. When the hell are the other teams going to catch up in terms of games played?

Also, will the fucking goddam motherless fucking Red Wings ever fucking lose a game? EVER?

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by HjammerTime on Dec 6, 2010 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm fine with the Wings winning

especially against Western Conf teams. No one’s likely to catch them, so I prefer they push the other teams down. What really sucked was every conference game on Saturday went to OT or the SO. Beat each other in regulation you fucks!

I’m pretty sure most of the teams catch up this month in GP.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Dec 6, 2010 9:48 AM CST up reply actions  

that's how I feel...

regarding Detroit. I’m fine with them running away with the conference. Although they are an older team, I’m curious to see if that has any effect on how they perform come March.

by aeroplane on Dec 6, 2010 10:00 AM CST up reply actions  

If they are running away with it....then they don't have to bust ass down the stretch..

…and their age becomes less a factor. If anything, you want that veteran team to have to try and really play hard to make it…..sort of like our Hawks will now have to do.

Now if they know they are a lock by late January, they can start to reduce the Lindstrom and Burtuzzi’s ice time to save them up for the playoffs.

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"When I look at the net I see 2 or 3 goalies." - Radek Dvorak.

by HjammerTime on Dec 6, 2010 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm fine with them letting up too...

that can be just as dangerous for their success.

by aeroplane on Dec 6, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

The Wings play 16 games this month

they should start to wear down unless they’re getting blood transfusion from the same place Keith Richards go to.

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by cdz3210 on Dec 6, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

this

December is where the rest of the the division finally starts catching up to the Hawks in number of games played. I’m holding out judgement on the Wings till early January, after they’ve gone through the blitz in their schedule that is December.

Not saying they’re not good, they are in fact scary good. But I want to see when/if the age comes into play. Or if they are indeed all cyborgs.

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by puppetmasterp on Dec 6, 2010 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

They've also had one of the weakest schedules in the league

So have we, but we’ve played 5 more games. Tougher competition plus a heavy December schedule should tell a lot about this year’s mold growth.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Dec 6, 2010 11:54 AM CST up reply actions  

I said I'd wait early to mid-December...

to judge what this year’s Hawks potential would be. I sort of lost my patience during 3rd week of November, but it seems the team is finally on the same page. Sure, there are some bad performances night in and night out, but it’s not like the team continued to play on different planes of existence.

The heavy schedule early on really hurt us, IMO. We played more games without #51 because of it and the team didn’t have the opportunity to gel in practice due to so many back to backs. In other words, our practice came during games and I fail how that can be an efficient way to learn.

by aeroplane on Dec 6, 2010 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I would agree Crawford starts

if we weren’t playing Dallas. I think Q gives that to Marty since it’s his old team.

by Katherine215 on Dec 6, 2010 9:43 AM CST up reply actions  

you're probably right

I still think running your hot hand is the right decision. But it’s not like Marty was bad against the Canucks. Probably would have allowed two goals if it wasn’t for the Hawks pressing for a good portion of the final period.

by aeroplane on Dec 6, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I've never pegged Q as the sentimental type when it comes to hockey decisions.

He’s definitely a go with the hot hand kind of guy with goaltenders. For whatever reason, the Hawks are winning with Crawford in net and losing with Turco in net at the moment.
So I think he’ll go with Crawford based on the fact that they need points, and lots of ’em, right now.

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by nextgame on Dec 6, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

But he's also very respectful toward veterans

and doesn’t seem to have major problems with the way Turco’s played. I agree, if it weren’t Dallas, I think he’d go with the hotter hand. I do think he is sentimental, though; remember Matt Walker? And Boynton and Cullimore?

by Katherine215 on Dec 6, 2010 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

i agree with both of you

but it does come down to not slapping Turco in the face. He took way less money than he was offered to come here, I doubt he’ll embarrass Turcs in front of his old team.

Which may lead to Turco saving his job, if anything. He’ll need to be lights out if he does in fact get the start.

by aeroplane on Dec 6, 2010 11:18 AM CST up reply actions  

I've used many words

to describe Q’s decisions regarding those three gentlemen. ‘Sentimental’ was not one of them.
(Although I’ve got to cut Cullimore lots of slack. I can find very little fault with his play as a sixth d-man.)

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by nextgame on Dec 6, 2010 11:19 AM CST up reply actions  

You're right about the respect

Q seems to give the veterans. I wouldn’t be surprised if the decision is left up to Turco.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on Dec 6, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Credit where credit is due

Bicks may have had all day to pick his spot, but he still put a laser just under the crossbar, and that’s not the first time he’s done it. Maybe he can’t create his own space the way some others can but I’m starting to gain a lot of confidence in him as a finisher.

by Scott13 on Dec 6, 2010 9:13 AM CST reply actions  

agreed

he places shots in hard to defend spaces. And we’ve seen him do it with fewer seconds to spare, too. He’s no Kopecky.

by aeroplane on Dec 6, 2010 9:36 AM CST up reply actions  

He has a great "wrister" .....

but he is a very sloooooowww. Wish he park in front of the net a lil more

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by ccm on Dec 6, 2010 10:23 AM CST up reply actions  

This was a rough moment for Skille

In addition to the high stick, he was tripped (almost slewed) on the play as well. OUCH.

by hawkeytalk on Dec 6, 2010 9:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Just brutal

Definitely one of those things I didn’t need to see replayed multiple times in slo-mo.

by MissE on Dec 6, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

If you look at the photo

and think of it out of the context of the play, this totally looks like a 3 Stooges scene. It would appear the Calgary player sneaked up behind Skille and crouched down, at which point Moss takes the lumber to Skille’s face, causing Skille to topple over the guy behind him.

‽ ⅋ ‽

by K_Dog on Dec 6, 2010 11:32 AM CST up reply actions  

At first I thought he cracked his head.....tough kid

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by ccm on Dec 6, 2010 10:20 AM CST up reply actions  

So glad that got a double minor

He was playing mailbox baseball with Skille’s face.

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by shinkicker on Dec 6, 2010 9:40 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Three assists for Seabs last night

He’s having a quietly awesome year so far.

I worry that this will drive up his price tag, but for now, I’m going to enjoy it.

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by shinkicker on Dec 6, 2010 9:45 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Most unsung hero on the team this year

Mr Consistency day in and day out.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Dec 6, 2010 9:50 AM CST up reply actions  

yes, i've been thinking this for a while now

we’ve been coing since Campbell’s been back and Hjammer’s been “back” but much fewer comments about the fact that Seabs has been the most consistent every game no matter who the opponent. He’s been propping up the whole D.

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by puppetmasterp on Dec 6, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions  

A lot of squeaky wheels

but Seabs has me wearing my #7 jersey proudly

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Chicago Blackhawks: 2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPS.
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by shinkicker on Dec 6, 2010 10:41 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

thanks for pointing out...

I was going to do that with my first post, but there was too much other juicy stuff to respond to and I let Seab’s 3 assist night slip away.

Agree with everyone else, Seab’s is playing like it’s his contract year or something.

by aeroplane on Dec 6, 2010 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Fluffy has been consistent......Boyton has been consistent

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by ccm on Dec 6, 2010 10:22 AM CST reply actions  

This Boynton bashing...

is kind of unnecessary. He had himself a good game last night. He’s had plenty of good games, which makes him inconsistent if you ask me.

by aeroplane on Dec 6, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

That's the thing I can't stand about Boynton...

he doesn’t ever make ok plays. He either has a really good play or is the cause of a goal against, usually by trying to play too aggressively in the forward zone. I would gladly take a decrease in production from him if it meant playing smarter with the puck.

by blackhawkeyes on Dec 6, 2010 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

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