What. Ever.: Hawks 4 - Jackets 4 (Hawks Win Figure Skating Competition 2-1)
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no mention of Versteeg?
WTF happened? Doghouse, injured?
I believe he was being given less time on purpose…sorry I don’t have exact quote
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Less time = no show for 3rd period?
I knew he was largely absent but I didn’t realize he only played 1 shift in the 2nd…
Doghouse
Coach Q: Riding hot hand with Niemi… Wasn’t happy with Versteeg’s play, why such limited ice time.
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 14, 2010 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
did he also
make Steeger write “I will dump the puck in” 200 times on the chalkboard?
I will dump the puck in.
I will dump the puck in.
I will dump the puck in.
I will dump the puck in.
…
i don't know if that would stick
maybe if we got Fergie to write him a song he’d get the point
by blackhawkeyes on Feb 14, 2010 8:56 PM CST up reply actions
Wow
I never noticed it before… Versteeg =Bart Simpson
Don’t have a cow, Q!
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
Can Versteeg write?
He might have to get one of the limo girls to do it
Then all the “in” renderings will have a little heart or star to dot the “i”
Doghouse
I assumed that earlier too. I think it’s funny when people ask “What happened to Versteeg??”
Hellooo? Haven’t we seen this movie before??
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 14, 2010 9:09 PM CST up reply actions
I agree that Niemi or Huet doesn't really matter...
…because they’ve both been inconsistent and mediocre.
Once again, the D gets the woodshed, but once again, our offense and defense were better than the opposition, but goaltending wasn’t.
Cheap shot on Dunc, Sam (Seebs was always a bit of an Olympic stretch.) He’s made a month’s worth of mistakes in the past week, but again today, he made a GREAT play (as did Toews and Kane) on the first, key goal.
The guy’s put up 30+ minutes the last two nights and, along with Mike Green, he’s a clear Norris front runner. Almost a point a game still, +23, PK/PP anchor- this only happens due to night-in, night-out excellence.
KEITH
Will there come a time when Dunc will ever level a guy in front of the net? Or is he like Campbell, and just doesn’t rough up anyone? Love #2 and agree that maybe his sloppiness as of late is from being overworked? but would love to see him level someone.
I don't think that's really his game
I mean, not any more than Kane leveling a guy anywhere. More like Biscuit or Hammer… maybe Sopel if we’re lucky.
Huet or Niemi Don't Matter???
OK, let me do some in depth research on that topic and I’ll see if I can get back to you. Tick, tock, tick, tock. Ok I’m done. Whew that was a tough data mining operation, but I think I might have found a pattern. Let’s take the games this past 2 weeks or so and do a little drill down.
Feb 3 Goalie HUET Result 2-3 LOSS
Feb 5 Goalie HUET Result 1-2 LOSS SHOOTOUT
Feb 6 Goalie NIEMI Result 2-1 WIN
Feb 9 Goalie NIEMI Result 4-3 WIN SHOOTOUIT
Feb 13 Goalie NIEMI Result 5-4 WIN SHOOTOUT
Feb 14 Goalie NIEMI Result 5-4 WIN SHOOTOUT
So let me get my Quad Processor computer to chunk some of the hard to find metrics here……hope this spits out some results in a day or 2. Oh WAIT! It seems to have finished early….
OK let’s see…that means the last 6 games where the D has played like crap, we have Hawks winning 4 and getting 8 out of 8 points when NIEMI was in goal and losing 2 and getting 1 out of 4 points with HUET in the nets.
Oh but wait. After reading today’s article I now know that SHOOTOUTS don’t count. So let me adjust my data here.
Hmmmm Hawks win 1 with Niemi and lose 1 with Huet. But hey, that’s only 2 data points and probably not statistically relevant.
Yeah, so after all is said and done and meaningless shootouts are eliminated I have to agree….there is absolutely no known statistical difference between having Niemi or Huet in net for the Hawks.
I am SO glad Coach Q doesn’t buy his rose colored glasses at the same store Huet’s legions do.
by husler777 on Feb 15, 2010 12:36 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
someone took a hit off the sass bong
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
Yeah No Doubt
When I see “Shootouts don’t matter” and “Huet or Niemi don’t matter” and you don’t even look at THE most important stat you can ever have (# of wins in case you’re guessing)…yeah that does call for a little razzing I’d say.
The Hawks should dress one player.............
for games after the break, Niemi. Because Huet is useless and all the rest are irrelevant. All we need is Antti, he’ll hold ’em off all by himself!
non se•qui•tur (nŏn sěk'wĭ-tər, -tŏŏr')
n. 1. An inference or conclusion that does not follow from the premises or
evidence.
2. A statement that does not follow logically from what preceded it.
I'm still new here
so maybe you have a special breed of logic that I haven’t learned about yet. But if wins are so important, don’t Huet’s 24 count? Or are you channeling your inner Nostradamus and assuming Niemi would have won all of those too?
As for the all-important shoot out, didn’t Huet win an 11 round one and the 8 or 9 round one earlier in the year? Or wait, those don’t count, right? He was playing a bad team….like the CBJ?
by Katherine215 on Feb 15, 2010 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
Good logical points Katherine215, but
haven’t you learned yet that logic is overrated?!
For all those arriving late for the game, please wait for the whistle (which will occur in 2 weeks), before returning to your (Niemi/Huet debating) seats.
Sincerely,
Andy Frain
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
I was late to the party
and posted before I saw McClure’s comment.
I try to stay out of this argument. I make one comment…
by Katherine215 on Feb 15, 2010 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
I hope you know
that I posted that with a friendly grin on my face
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 1:38 PM CST up reply actions
Of course!
I just found it ironic that I stick my toe in this argument only to find it already finished. that is my luck today!
by Katherine215 on Feb 15, 2010 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
3.00 GAA, .895 SV%
That’s Niemi’s record in the last four games. The defense still stinks, the goaltending numbers are still pretty much the same. You know what the difference is? We’re scoring enough goals now to tie it up, at the very least, enough to head into overtime and shootouts. That’s it. So you can shove it.
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 15, 2010 6:35 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Last 7 games....
Huet 0-3, Niemi 4-0 shove THAT up your double thick rose colored glASSes.
Boasting about your own ignorance
does not make you less ignorant. FYI.
by Brian C on Feb 15, 2010 9:59 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
So based on your fgures
Huet 2.0 GAA in 2 games < Niemi 3.0 GAA in 4 games.
By that rational, if the Hawks win their next game with Niemi in goal 7-6, then we’ve definitely found our man.
Thank you for the enlightenment. I bet you really would’ve loved the dark ages!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
Resistance is futile
They will be ASSimilated
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
In playoff terms...
…it translates into (W-L-T) 0-1-1 for huey and 1-0-3 for Niemi. This is the only relevant yardstick.
Yhe Hakws scored 13 for Niemi in the last four, 3 for Huey in the prior two.
Use your eyes man. Both goalies have been pretty meh, and the team is still great.
chiblackhawks: “The defense still stinks.” Jesus, we get spoiled fast. The D has faltered a bit lately, but I’d bet there’s a long line of goalies that would love the Hawks D inf front of them. Huey and Niemi have given up 16 goals in the last six games (2.67 GAA), and it ain’t like they’ve been standing on their head.
by cliffkoroll on Feb 15, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
Jesus, we get spoiled fast.
I was gonna say “the defense falters in the face of average goaltending at some points in the game, which would lead some to believe they’ve underperformed relative to the rest of the season’s growing expectations” but I decided to go for the briefer, more succinct statement to drive a point.
The D has been less than stellar, the goaltending is average, the offense is on a roll. And we’re still winning.
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 15, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
1.66 vs 3.25
The first number is the average goals-for when Huet played those 3 games. The second number is the average goals-for when Niemi played the last 4.
Look. We’re winning and I’m relieved that we are. This is not about that. This is about the fact that when we were winning with Huet in similar fashion, you guys were on him about his bad save percentages. Now all you’re focusing on is the wins column, which was essentially what’s been pointed out all along.
What we’re saying is Niemi or Huet does not make a difference if both offense and defense stink. Maybe Niemi improves over time but in the last four games he’s shown us how average he can be— not good, not bad. This has nothing to do with glasses of any sort, and if you could pause for a minute and think—REALLY think—you’d see that.
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 15, 2010 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
Well put
Actually it’s 1.50, not 1.66, in support of Huey.
First, Huey haters and defenders roll out their familiar arguments.
Then Niemi starts a few games, and everyone puts down their arguments and picks up the other guys’.
My eye test says they both look meh lately, and they’ve both shown signs of putting together very good stretches, but other than more scoring support for Niemi, not much to choose from.
And the eye test is supported by their remarkably converging GAA and SV% stats.
It’s a lot like going into last year’s playoffs, except the rest of the team is better.
by cliffkoroll on Feb 15, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions
but other than more scoring support for Niemi, not much to choose from.
This includes any other available goalies around the league.
It’s just tiring having to point the same thing out (that the team is fine and can win despite average goaltending) over and over again because if Huet’s winning in goal the Hawks are covering up for him, if Huet’s losing it’s because he can’t carry them, but if Niemi’s winning it’s because he’s standing on his head and if he’s losing it’s because the defense is letting up. The double standard sucks.
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 15, 2010 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
Numbers lie
This debate reminds me of the Grossman- Orton debate.
Grossman was really, REALLY good when he was on, and really, REALLY bad when he was off. (Huet). Orton, was pretty much Orton. He played ok, every now and then showed some flashes, but for the most part was just average (Niemi).
Two different QB’s, one was lights out or light’s off, one was consistently mediocre, and after 2 full years at the helm, guess what? Their numbers were virtually IDENTICAL. (do your own research)
Here’s where it gets scary potentially, if indeed the powers at be have grown tired of Huet or lost trust in him getting it done, and are testing whether or not Niemi is who they think he is or if a new savior in the pipes is needed…
So, we pin our hopes on the mediocre guy and lo and behold a great young probowl caliber QB becomes available, we trade the farm, he comes in and sucks as much ass as the guy who was either lights out or lights off.
I don’t know what all of this means, but I think it’s pretty serious.
Not Sure I'd call Niemi the Orton
Given 4 shutouts in only 22 games and stopping 10 shoot outs in a row I’d say that he could be the really good one when he’s on. You also have to remember Niemi is basically a rookie. I think we’ve already seen Huet’s long term “A” game. Not so sure that’s true for Niemi.
With 4 starts in a row
and the previous back to back I think we are starting to see what he’s made of. I can’t say I’m too impressed but I have not been too impressed with the team’s total effort either. The bottom line is our goalies will only be as successful as the team in front of them.
Competitive violence, that's why you're here!
Actually
This one got me thinking, and my perception — someone can look at film & call me a liar and I wouldn’t flinch — is that Niemi is the better goalie when he has a clear view of the shooter, but Huet is better when there’s a bit of chaos in front. Now, you can say that every goalie looks good when he can see the puck – and that’s true to a point – but using shootouts as an example shows that it’s not always the case. Perhaps what if boils down to is instincts versus reaction time, where Huet has the better instincts (understandable from a more experienced player) but Niemi has the quicker reflexes.
This translates to Niemi giving you a slight edge when the D is keeping opponents out of the goalie’s kitchen. I also think this suggests that in time, Niemi will be a better overall goalie than Huet. If we accept the premise that Huet, right now, has the better potential to stand on his head at times, then he’s the guy you want between the pipes when the playoffs start. Anyone who’s watched hockey over the years knows that a hot goalie CAN carry his team to the cup (while admitting that this team might be able to do it with average goaltending).
After it’s all said and done, however, both give up more rebounds than they should, which is the major flaw for each, IMHO. As I’ve said before, Huet’s getting better and giving them up off to the side. And if the other 5 guys are doing their jobs, they’ll get those bouncers cleared before the opponents can claim them. If we’re not doing that, the offense is gonna have to carry this team, which I think we all knew was going to be the case from the start. As good as the D is, it’s an offensive-minded defense, for the most part. That’s OK, too, as long as we can accept that while opportunities for the opponents may be fewer, but there will be some golden opportunities among that small number.
teaching respect for the Indian, one Red Wings fan at a time.
Well said
I think everything you’ve pointed out is definitely an observable, and while people may argue about the details I think it’s really insightful.
I absolutely agree that Niemi is the more athletic of the two, but there are definitely areas of the game where he needs significant polish. For now I’d say Huet has better rebound control and fundamentals, but when he loses focus or moves too slow it can really hurt him.
I don’t know that a Grossman/Orton comparison is valid because they’re both somewhat inconsistent with a chance of standing on their head — both more like Rexy in a way. But I don’t think either of them have been bad nearly as much (or maybe it’s their D bailing them out, though that hasn’t happened much recently).
Double Standard Sucks
Hey, we agree!!!! I went into the blog today thinking I ain’t gonna start the Huet/Niemi stuff into the Olympics, but looking forward to a few props for him winning a couple of games in the shoot outs by stopping 10 in a row and what? 11 out of 12? Instead what set me off today was the inane article comment " And don’t give me any nonsense about the shootout, because it doesn’t matter."!!! WTF???? Shoot outs don’t matter to WHO exactly with ANY semblance of hockey sense? IMO that comment was THE definition of double standard….make every excuse for Huet when he loses (well, he doesn’t see many shots so he lets bad ones in because he’s not tested enough)…but when Niemi completely shuts down teams in the OT and shootout, just say “It doesn’t matter”. THAT is BS.
What I saw w/o getting into save % etc.
1) When the D plays good both goalies can win.
2) When the D plays bad and the O plays bad, both goalies can lose.
3) When the D plays bad and the O plays good, I’ll take Niemi, SO FAR, ESPECIALLY if we go to the shoot outs as a result.
Bottom lines:
Keep both goalies and don’t make an Orton or Grossman type trade right now….no need for that and no one is available who’s a star #1 for sure.
Play the hot hand vs. anointing a #1 since neither have distinguished themselves as a #1 for sure.
Light up some Marlboro 72 ass after the Olympics if they keep playing like they did the last 2+ weeks because if THAT is what we’re gonna get from our top D in the playoffs we’re screwed. I HOPE the last few weeks have just been the “Look MA, I made the Olympics” temporary crap.
Watch to see if Niemi keeps developing and CAN become THE guy for a long time to come.
Enjoy the best hockey team we’ve seen in Chicago in a LONG time.
by husler777 on Feb 15, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
See your first sentence points out exactly where you went wrong
“I went… …thinking”.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
OK it was your second sentence
and then blah blah blah….
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
sigh.
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 15, 2010 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Where is the little hustler now?
Way to actually back up what you have been saying rather than just saying…. Huet sucks! Niemi Rules and should be number one! Why is that? Because Niemi is not Huet thats why…. just plain stupid! I pretty much ignore this because at the end of the day they are pretty much the same damn goaltender!
Drink it up!
Reading the Chicago Tribune
“Quenneville said he started Niemi for a fourth consecutive game because he’s the hot goaltender and deserved to play”. Hmmmmmm. What’s the counter argument to that one?
ok...
any player can get hot at any time… I honestly wouldn’t even consider what Niemi has done in the net these last two games hot… If in four games he has a shutout or 2 and has a GAA lower than 2.00 than I would consider that as being hot! Average Goaltending + Stellar Offense = 42-15-5! Don’t for a second believe that the offense hasn’t burried out the goaltending in more than 75% of these games! With say the offensive talent of Oilers (148 goals 29th in the league) with these goalies in net we become as bad record wise as they are! Lets just all stop and take a deep breath here and look at the only numbers that matter 42-15-5!!! We haven’t seen a hawks team this good in over a decade! This is my last post about goalies for the rest of the year cause I am SICK of this argument! Unless you think you could do a better job as a starting NHL goaltender! THEN STFU, GRAB A BEER, AND ENJOY THE BEST DAMN SEASON THE HAWKS HAVE HAD IN A LOOOOOONNNNGGGGG FUCKING TIME!!!! Thank you and good day!
Drink it up!
What does it take to make you realize
that we have beaten this dead horse – and that the horse’s name isn’t fucking Lazarus??
Husler777, may I suggest googling one of the following topics:
Higher Education During the Inquisition, or
The Haulocost: A Jewish Conspiracy, or perhaps
The Moon Landing: Photoshopped!"
I think you might be able find a site with like-minded people.
Or maybe you could just go back to your magazine…
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 11:29 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah OK
Agree or disagree, if you’re too dumb to argue on topic or too lazy to back up your position with a semblance of thought, you can always revert to insulting the other guy. Gee, that’s REALLY hard to do. This post and some of the ones above basically have shown me how intelligent you are. I’ll take my lumps discussing and disagreeing with people on here who at least try to include some logic with their insults. You I am ignoring from now on and I’ll go farther and say with your recent comments you don’t belong on this blog.
Sob sob
Gee, that’s REALLY hard to do.
No, actually it was pretty easy, and you did most of the work for me. Thanks!
When you fill up the thread with your drivel, support it with facts that are actually contrary to your argument, and then turn around and say “I ain’t gonna start the Huet/Niemi stuff” and then do exactly that…
What. Ever. Please, please ignore me.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 12:03 PM CST up reply actions
Nice job
referencing the title of the blog post we’re commenting on in your dismissal of husler777.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
I've even actually 'read' a few articles in Playboy
Citing our discussion of Bill Hicks the other day and the board talk about the waffle house in St. Louis, I thought you might enjoy this.
I have a better version of it on disc, but this one’s a good primer if you’ve never seen him.
Welllll, looks like we’ve got ourselves a “reader”.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
I ate in a WH
over Christmas. First time, probably not my last, but goddamn what a unique slice of America.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
Where have you been?
It’s the same argument hurled against Huey: SV% .896 over last four games. Over the past three, it’s .863. These games should not have gone to overtime.
I give Anti props for the STL game- one of the precious few games all year the Hawks can count as (in Q’s words): “a goalie win.” That game alone probably earned him the next three starts, and, IMO, he sorta wet the bed here against so-so competition.
Shootout points are great- I’ll take ’em, but they have virtually no bearing on the key decision of who plays how much in the post-season.
by cliffkoroll on Feb 15, 2010 11:36 AM CST up reply actions
Minor Data -
First off, I don’t care who starts as long as we win
Last 4 Starts for each
Neimi – 3 Home & 1 road game – GAA = 3.00 / GFA 4.00. Opponents – 3 of 4 teams would not make the playoffs if they started today and the 4th (Dallas) is barely hanging on.
Huet – 2 home & 2 road games – GAA = 3.00 / GFA 2.00. Opponents – 2 of 4 teams, (San Jose & Phoenix) are in the top 4 of their division
Competitive violence, that's why you're here!
thanks for enlightening me!
Either way if our defence plays as good as they can play! It doesn’t fucking matter who is in net! Honestly I felt like the defense actually gave a damn against San Jose! That was one of the first games in a long time that they have played to their potential for more than 1 period of a game!
Drink it up!
7 game sample size
works for me. Now get the fuck out of here if you can’t play nice, dumbASS.
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Thanks for at least putting a heading
so I can close this drivel
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions
I never realized that women's hockey was so similar to pond hockey
the fat kid still gets thrown in net.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 14, 2010 8:14 PM CST reply actions
there, a box of candy!
Yeah, I know it’s football, STFU. How likely am I to find anything hockey-related in a dollar store? (Well, aside from hockey cards, which is what I went in to look for.) Just pretend it’s puck-shaped candy…and the phrase on it works for hockey, right?
Enjoy a bit of time off/working on the podcast!
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you should have said that before I posted!
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HMMM
If I never saw a shootout again I wouldn’t mind. I have my fair share of them these past few days.
It's THE GOAALLLIEEE!!!!!
Pictures
This was the only picture they had on offer. Apparently, all AP photographers had a hot date.
Meeshak, you’re an AP photographer?
i was wondering if someone would bring this up
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
Yeah, it was too easy to pass up
sorry.
by Katherine215 on Feb 15, 2010 9:01 AM CST up reply actions
CANADA WON A GOLD MEDAL?!
Hawks61 must be running nude through the streets in celebration.
Chicagoan in the Lou.
Great Story behind it too
I know, I know there is a story behind every athlete in the Olympics, but watching his joy and then his brother’s brought a tear to my eye. Especially after he said that it was for his brother.
Congrats to Canada on their 1st oh home turf Gold
September 26, 2007 The day a Franchise was reborn.
Wait? What?......how did you know?
Laying all jokes aside it was quite the party in the Nation’s Capital at the Cabin. It’s more of a sigh of relief than anything but it was great that we didn’t lose it in the end like what happened the night before.
With that said though, I now know more about Alexandre Bilodeau than I’ve ever wanted to but that’s too be expected when after 33 years of failure you become the first to break the curse. It’s a tremendous story and a tremendous night (from what I still remember). It was quite the celebration.
Let the Olympic spirit live in everyone.
GO CANADA GO!
Congratulations to Alexandre Bilodeau on being the first Canadian to win on home soil.
And it was in a cool sport
that medal ceremony will be intense, I hope they show it on American tv. I think an American got a medal there too so they probably will.
Canada's off the schniede!
Now the analysts will shut up about it.
Seriously though, I cheered really loud when that last skier came in 6th. It kept the US guy in the bronze heated chair, which by the way, I thought was extremely cool. In a hot sort of way.
by Katherine215 on Feb 15, 2010 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
I felt sorry for that guy
IMO the judges were so fearful for their lives that they completely screwed him on his score.
The bigger screw almost occurred when the Australian/Canadian guy took over the top spot. Now that would’ve been salt in the wound!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 1:24 PM CST up reply actions
I thought for sure the American was out
and the French guy was 2nd. I wondered if the Australian/Canadian guy enjoyed the anthem during the medal ceremony. Have they shown it yet?
by Katherine215 on Feb 15, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't see it, but I'm sure ALL OF CANADA DID!
It would be humorously ironic though to see him signing along to “Oh, Canada”!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
Because it's a night sport
the medal ceremonies have been happening the day after. I’m guessing they’ll show it at some point in prme time tonight.
FML
I have to be at work tmo at 7am, as usual. Everyone else enjoy sleeping in, you bastards.
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I know they are pretty much the same BUT
I can’t get over how Huet goes to the ground as soon as a stick is raised within 50 feet, I hate that he can’t go post to post when he’s already sprawling (see AN’s stop on Nash in the shootout) and AN has never been caught 10 or so feet out of the crease trying to close the angle on someone who is setting him up. With that said I am find with these guys, but I think the start might have been a test to see what AN can do while tired and maybe more. Hawks got in at 3 am. Why the hell start a goalie after playing 3 periods, an OT, and a shootout?
Light a fire under Huet? Maybe but I won’t be shocked if something bigger happens.
by Duck99 on Feb 14, 2010 9:09 PM CST via mobile reply actions
They aren't the same
They both have their strengths and weaknesses… not to attack or defend either but Niemi has his issues too — I’ve always thought his rebound control was noticeably less solid than Huet’s.
All conversations regarding Huet/Niemi have been BOYCOTTED for the next 2 weeks.
I am citing the collective mental heath of our hive mind.
Your assimilation is appreciated.
Resistance is futile.
Yours truly,
The Borg
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 14, 2010 9:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Well as we obviously already know
some people come in, ignore what everyone else has already written, put there head down and go to it at their keyboard like they’re fucking Schroeder on the piano. “Hey, I’ve got something new to say! Hear me!”
I even added a graphic so that it might catch the attention of the avid Hustler “reader”. Maybe because it wasn’t green, it wasn’t obvious enough. Maybe I can add blinking lights…
Sigh
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 12:11 PM CST up reply actions
I agree
Q’s giving Niemi every chance to win the job and/or light a fire under Huet.
Let’s face it — there’s not much out there goalie-wise. Gigiure was probably a decent fit, salary cap wise but Bowman passed.
Tim Thomas? He makes more than Huet and is on the downhill slide. You could make a case that he’d thrive under a better back line…..but why deal for him? Is Cam Ward available?
I think the Blackhawks are going to stick with what they have. On HNIC, Pierre Le Brun said “…..The Hawks are doing their due diligence on goalies. But, they may stand pat….”
Gee, how incisive. The Hawks may make a trade, they may not.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Feb 15, 2010 7:31 PM CST up reply actions
Fraser
I guess what I would say of Fraser is that he tries. Really, really hard.
I think Fraser has been playing his ass off...
…almost 15 minutes last night, 13 the night before (vs. 9 and 5 for Kopecky.)
Key #1 PK time with Brouwer too.
If Eager’s not healthy, Fraser may make the playoff line-up yet.
by cliffkoroll on Feb 15, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
I was disappointed
when all our centers went down earlier this year that he didn’t get a tryout for important minutes. I assume it had a lot to do with the +/- of the 4th line early in the year, but given his PK time I assumed the coaches were comfortable with his defensive play and he keeps his offensive game simple. Maybe they tried in practice and didn’t like what they saw.
Damnit!
that’s a spelling fail right there! I meant Brouwer… but I’m sure everyone knew who I was talking about!
Drink it up!
Bower Power
SCH Resident Idiot
The only Cup we can win is this years
by Johnny Lava on Feb 14, 2010 10:09 PM CST up reply actions
Barcelona reference?
Maybe I misremembered the ad. The point is I could’ve shaved the wrong way all my life and never have known it. Then I could have taught my son to shave the wrong way, too.
You have a son?
No.
But I might someday. Then, maybe I’ll teach him to shave the wrong way.
I think maybe my English is not so good.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 14, 2010 10:17 PM CST up reply actions
This is a good time for a break
no Who’s in Goal or Who’s on What Line games for a couple of weeks.
Enjoy the vacation everyone!
SCH Resident Idiot
The only Cup we can win is this years
and GO USA!!!
SCH Resident Idiot
The only Cup we can win is this years
by Johnny Lava on Feb 14, 2010 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
This just in....
Chicago Blackhawks centerman John Madden was injured early Friday when he lost control of his SUV outside his home, and a local police chief said Maddens’ wife used a hockey stick to smash out the back window to help get him out. The Highway Patrol said Maddens’ vehicle hit a fire hydrant and a tree in his neighbor’s yard after he pulled out of his driveway at 2:25 a.m.
Drink it up!
by SharpFTW10 on Feb 14, 2010 10:18 PM CST up reply actions 8 recs
is Madden
going to limo rehab??? Or is his wife making him take a limo edict class. Rule #1: Leave your shirt on. Rule #2: If your going to commit an infidelity at least make sure she is of greater or equal attractiveness to your significant other. and Rule #3 the most important one: NO FUCKING CAMERAS!!!!
Drink it up!
I believe he’s attending the annual Hattiesburg Chest Waxing Convention.
The past is for cowards and fools....
Is rule #2 really a good idea?
At least in terms of facing the wife? I’ve not cheated before, but I would imagine a hotter woman would cause a crisis of self-worth in addition to the feelings of betrayal, etc. “What’s the matter? Am I not attractive to you anymore?” That kind of thing.
Put another way, I would think that “But you’re way hotter than she is! Just look at her!” would be a useful card to be able to play.
Ah, the thinking man's guide to infidelity...
…there is wisdom in these words.
by cliffkoroll on Feb 15, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
To begin with,
it’s probably best to keep it in your pants. If you’re going to cheat, it may as well be with someone hotter. I think no matter what you say, your wife will still think that you find the other woman to be more physically attractive. Let’s put the shoe on the other foot, besides the act of infidelity, what would be worse for your self esteem, if she was with Brad Pitt or Carrot Top?
Competitive violence, that's why you're here!
The idea of cheating up
is to make it worth it. There’s no way Madden thinks it was worth it. They’re probably not even allowed to watch the Vancouver Olympics in his house because “that’s where the whores live” now. Poor guy.
Its like Misery?
is that why he is injured? Is his wife holding him hostage and breaking his legs?
Drink it up!
We don't need to find an enforcer
we can just sign Madden’s wife.
by Katherine215 on Feb 15, 2010 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
Has anyone else pictured a chinese news animation...
… of Mrs. Madden chasing his car down the driveway with a hockey stick?
Or is that just me?
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
I think it's me
Brouwer tonight, Bolland yesteray. Obviously I made a huge impression on them.
Sharpie, disappointed that I didn’t go see him, so he’s just trying to impress me.
Happy Valentines Day to all my favorite alkies!
2009 SCH Post Whore
2010 Troll Collector
SCH's Resident Mom
Can you please visit Versteeg?
So we can start calling him VERSTEEG! once more? While you’re at it, maybe Buff too. Though he has been showing some signs of life, at least.
Yeah, Buff's had his moments the last few games.
That usually means a three-goals-in-three-nights is coming up. But who knows now with the break.
Tell me where they live
I can stalk with the best of them.
2009 SCH Post Whore
2010 Troll Collector
SCH's Resident Mom
Niemi isn’t cutting it. Did you know he’s never played in an nhl playoff game? I say we give this huet guy a shot at taking the #1 spot.
They brought their fuckin' TOYS with 'em!
by ZootSuitZombie on Feb 14, 2010 11:42 PM CST reply actions
Didn’t you see ChicagoNativeSon’s boycott/moratorium?
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
we need to want the backup to play at all times. that’s how this works. the starter always sucks and the backup needs a chance to show what he’s got because he just may be the second coming.
They brought their fuckin' TOYS with 'em!
by ZootSuitZombie on Feb 15, 2010 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
this won't be news to you
but that’s a great point
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
Shootout Doesn't Matter???!!!
“And don’t give me any nonsense about the shootout, because it doesn’t matter.”
Is Rozner writing for SCH now? That’s a comment that is only true the last day of the season when the playoffs start. Like or hate the concept is irrelevant. It IS in the rules and if anyone hasn’t noticed it DOES affect wins and standings points no matter how much fun is made of the concept. And I AM happy we got a goalie that saved us from losing 2 games going into the Olympic break and instead has us on a 4 game winning even though he played 4 games in a row including a back to back 65 minute shootout games with little sleep and an overnight road trip. Why do I get a funny feeling that if Mr. Huet saved 10 shootout attempts in a row it might actually reflect some ability and we’d get calls asking what the Huet bashers have to say now? Cripes what a RIDICULOUS comment.
It's not *that* ridiculous
I’m not defending Rozner (he’s not exactly…defensible) but you could make the argument the outcome of the shootout shouldn’t affect your judgment of poor play. In fact, I’m pretty sure that was a SCH comment…
That said, you have every right to be happy about us winning. 2 points is 2 points. We just hope that the Hawks don’t think winning despite poor play in regulation means they can rest easy.
Yeah it is
If you want to judge poor or good play, the shootout IS part of the game AND I’d say it’s a pretty darn good indication of some goalie abilities. The ability to win 3 games by stopping 10 out of 11 shots DOES make my opinion of Niemi higher than before. Ignoring shootouts when judging his play , maybe only to me, IS ridiculous.
As to non-shootout play…..yeah, I wish Niemi would have stopped 2 of the goals he let in the last 4 games. But taking the “Hey look ma, I made the Olympics!” defense into account, I think he played well above mediocre and was in the end able to win 4, one goal games and get 8 out of 8 points And the best we get in the article and comments is “Niemi proved he’s just like Huet, niether matter and don’t count shootouts” What crap! Give the guy some credit and look forward to him getting some experience and getting even better.
Wish there was a bad goal stat.
I feel Niemi BGS < Huet BGS.
Just observation, nothing to back it up.
Oh no, it's the incontestable "eye test" again
great metric for an analytical discussion.
Sigh
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
Until he fails, Niemi deserves his chance to be #1.
Huet GAA – 2.29 SV% – .903 W/L - 24 11 – % – .686 17 4 – % – .809
Niemi GAA – 2.16 SV% – .913 W/L -
it's when you use double-dashes
they get read as HTML for strikethroughs.
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 15, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
Uh.....
Did you see the Afinogenov goal? The Slater goal? The dumb rebound on the Torres goal? Niemi is getting bailed out by our offense. I think part of the reason Niemi is so popular is that he flops around making semi-challenging saves look spectacular. Niemi a great back-up but let’s stop turning him in a Micah Hoffpauir or Bobby Scales.
......yep ....he should have one of Huet's patented melt downs
soon…although Huet is the master
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
well...maybe..we will never know
Q-stache was impatient that night.
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
Afinogenov goal wasn't good.
Campbell tipped Slater’s goal over Niemi’s shoulder. Torres – talk to SamFels.
I’ve never said that Niemi has played fantastically.
But, Niemi deserves his chance to be #1. Huet is a very known commodity.
two games in a row, no less!
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
Maybe Barker's trade, although not a surprise,
plus, the presence of all the Rockford guys who typically come up and work their asses off, lit a fire under him?
Let’s not also not forget that in the past 2 games Buff has been playing a role that is more suited for him. He’s off the point on the PP and I noticed him in front of the net quite a bit last night.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
This ice hockey game was good
but how about that Daytona 500?!
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
The 4 hour driveway patch fix
was stupid. When your sport’s showcase event takes a few hour break because of a Chicago winter pot hole somebody fucked up really bad. The race should have ended right around the time the Hawks game started, instead it finished during overtime and I mostly missed it. I saw at least one green/white/checker attempt that failed miserably so I just switched back to the Hawks game and missed the end.
Video of Brouwer Fight?
Given the great camera work on WGN that missed most of the fight, anyone find a clip of the whole thing somewhere?
Looks like the same amount of coverage that was on WGN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w50P2zH7vhM&feature=youtube_gdata
Yeah. Guess they missed it.
Jackets announcers calling for an interference penalty on the Hawks after that wonderful open ice hit. Cripes. Makes me glad to deal with the occasional Foley/Eddie O giggly girls PJ party stuff.
Yeah that totally pissed me off
He is not a fighter…the refs should step in and do something to stop this…..gimme a fuckin break!!!!!!If the little piece o shit deuche bag isn’t a fighter he shouldn’t take a run at one of our best players,or any of our players for that matter!!!dumbass homer announcers!!!!Brouwer did his job beautifully….and i can guarantee you stralman will not go after any hawks players when these teams meet again
well..
He didn’t exactly “take a run” at Kane… he just hit him. I think it was clean but Kane took an unfortunate angle and it resulted in it looking like it was knee-to-knee.
Also, listen to Eddie O any time Keith has been a fight – he’ll cry for someone to step in too.
The day that the Stanley Cup is decided by
our announcers vs their announcers, I will be concerned with this.
I personally love it when other broadcast teams whine and complain about the Hawks. It makes me feel like a pack of Virgina Slims.
“You’ve come a long way, baby”
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
Now that I'm not foaming at the mouth (or fingertips)
I just reread what I wrote above and that sounds dismissive, which was not my intent. Plus, it was a better topic than the They-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named debate so I’d like to revisit this.
I didn’t hear the Columbus broadcast, so I don’t know to what extent they were “whining”. Also, I had not previously noticed Edzo crying for someone to step in during Keith fights (he’s had so few). I checked out hockeyfights and youtube but could only find one other Keith fight with Edzo on the broadcast. This one against Svitov. You are correct sir. Edzo TOTALLY whines like someone just molested his dog while Duncs is getting owned. Very embarrassing based on the standards laid out above.
On the other hand, I definitely wouldn’t consider Edzo to be whining during the fight with Burrows. He stated only once, and very matter-of-factly, that Burish needed to help Dunc. I can definitely give him a pass on that one since I’m sure he was as dumbstruck as all of us at the site of a non-WWE wrestler pulling another man’s hair. Even if he is a ginger.
Bottom line, if you’re going to put a big hit on another team’s star player, expect to pay a price. I know there have been a lot of articles in the media lately against retaliatory fighting, but IMO it is the number one reason to fight in hockey. If you can’t skate with the big dogs, stay on the porch.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 6:48 PM CST up reply actions
Here is the Columbus broadcast of Brouwer’s fight.
http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/92606
Keith gave up a lot more height to Svitov than Stralman did to Brouwer though, and probably more weight as well. Keith also stood in for a lot longer (at least twice as long) and took more blows since Brouwer didn’t do that good of a job.
Defense
The Hawks “active stick” defensemen need to get back to basics. The failure to make a simple play and take the body instead of chase the puck has had the defense burned a lot lately, especially today. Columbus skated right past the Hawks D as they were caught swatting at air, and looking bad in the process. The question of whether the Hawks play physical enough always dovetails into the red-herring “goon” conversation instead of addressing why so many of the Hawks this season fail to take the body when it’s the correct hockey play. I don’t know if it’s a change in coaching philosophy or if the team’s mental approach has drifted but this is something the team did better last year than so far this year.
Amen!
Sometimes it is just the better play to take the body, clear the puck out of the zone, or even ice the puck rather than try a cross ice pass in the defensive zone in an effort to start another offensive rush. Puck possession is one thing, but actually playing defense when you need to is another.
Whether the man in the net is Huet or Niemi, it would be fair to say that if we saw a little more of what Brent Sopel dished out in that 4 on 3 overtime power play a few games back from a few more of our defensemen, we would have far fewer Chinese fire drills for either goalie to have to manage.
I also think having another defesman who can play 15-20 minutes a game if needed will yield benefits in resting Keith and Seabs, who when tired, tend to make mental errors which lead to tough save moments for any goalie in the net.
by Return of the Roar on Feb 15, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
Patrick Sharp has been
On a tear since he joined Kane and Toews…hopefully Hawks management sees this and doesn’t trade him….even if he is not scoring or assisting they are keeping possession of the puck inside the opposing teams blue line for almost 90 percent of their shift…they are flat out dominating……Didn’t like the hit by Stralman,looked at it a few times,seemed like a clean hit,but he could have possible been goin after the knee,he doesn’t seem to lead with his shoulder at all….anyways good job by Brouwer for beatin the shit out of him,and that should end the “we need a tough guy to protect our stars” debate…Brouwer is tough Ladd is too and when Buff wants to be he can too…i like Bryan Bickell,he seems to give a full effort every time he gets called up to play
I wish Bickell
had a perma smile, Love the toothless grin. Kinda reminds me of that Dude on the show “Ax Men” if you watched that ever
September 26, 2007 The day a Franchise was reborn.
LOL!
That show on the history channel?hahahaha
Never watched it but from start to finish but i caught a few minutes every here and there )
Yep that's the one
The toothless wonder on there is good for quite a few laughs
September 26, 2007 The day a Franchise was reborn.
Just a few thoughts....
(I’m in grouchy old bastard mode today)
> The next time there’s an opposing player in behind Keith, wide open at the edge of our crease, I wish he’d plant the blade of his stick firmly up Keith’s ass, just to let him know he’s there, right before he knocks it into a gaping net for another opponents goal. Jesus Christ, a little awareness Dunc, pleeeeease!
> What the hell was with WGN cutting off the Blackhawks TV broadcast in mid-flight after the game to start showing ‘Species’? I like looking at Natasha Henstridge as much as the next guy, but it coulda waited another 15 minutes.
>A little late on this, but was I the only one that noticed the Hawks only had four men on the ice for Atlanta’s 2nd goal in Saturdays game? The Thrash had just killed off a Hawk power play, and the Hawks were changing up and wound up with only four on the ice when the goal was scored. No mention of this anywhere during or after the game, except for me and my buds sitting together up in the 300’s. Was it a group hallucination?
non se•qui•tur (nŏn sěk'wĭ-tər, -tŏŏr')
n. 1. An inference or conclusion that does not follow from the premises or
evidence.
2. A statement that does not follow logically from what preceded it.
I just read the caption to the above picture, and it made spit milk on my laptop.
Thanks a fucking lot Sam.
by fourstringninja on Feb 15, 2010 9:38 AM CST reply actions
What is this thing you call milk, and what is its alcohol content?
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on Feb 15, 2010 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
Hawks D (including backcheckers) is the team's backbone...
Here’s the top-10 teams in GAA this year:
NJ 2.36
CHI 2.39
SJ 2.47
VAN 2.49
PHX 2.51
CAL 2.52
BUF 2.53
BOS 2.57
COL 2.59
Every team on this list, except for the #2 slot, has a very good or elite netminder. (Note that the Hakws recent “defensive collapse”, GAA of 2.67 over the past six with mediocre goaltending) would still be good for #11 in the league.)
How, I wonder, have the Hawks pulled this trick off?
This is why adding Yonsun’s minutes will be so huge for the Hawks.
In one way its
quite impressive….and at least to me it is a little worrisome…..11th in the league in GAA is good,not great but good,considering your team is i think 4th or 5th in GFA…..With this 2.67 GAA in the last 6 and this “SLUMP” the blackhawks are still 4-1-1 which is great….However,since the minny game where the hawks blew a big lead and lost in the shootout,the hawks have a 3.29 GAA if i am not mistakenand that is not good at all,this is worrisome,but again in that period the HAWKS are 10-5-2…its kinda funny,you can say that this team is in a slump,and yet they continue to play above .500 hockey….donno what to think,the blown leads worry me,hopefully they start to play their best hockey in march and April…
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!
strike that...i was wrong
51 goals in the last 17 games….3 GAA…sorry,i read somewhere a fan wrote it was 3.29…i jsut did the math….51 gaa since the minny debacle….still worried a bit,hopefully Q will use the break wisel to fix this problem,and tear the D a new asshole like he did to Steeger last night,you dont wanna play D and make the simple play?sit your ass down!!!!!
The Minny game is probably the touchstone...
…for when it all started to go HORRIBLY WRONG!
Adjusting for shootout and empty net goals, the Hawks have scored 2.82 / game and allowed 2.94 / game over this period. It’s a miracle they’re 10-5-2 during the stretch.
Considering our goaltending has not been great lately, I still think the D has played all right, contrary to a lot of hand-wringing here. SOG remains ridiculously low. Consider also in this equation that in Ketih and Campbell, the Hawks have two of the top offensive defensemen in the league.
I am way more confident that the D will find its form for the playoffs than that the offensive will produce consistently or that the goalies will play above average.
by cliffkoroll on Feb 15, 2010 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
What has been
the HAWKS SOG average since the Minny slump?
Shots on goal or shots against?
Starting from that Jan 9 game, shots for are averaging 34.88 while shots against are 25.17 (or 25.18 if you round it off).
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 15, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry
i meant to ask both…so SOG are 34.88 which is great,and Shots allowed is 25.18…which is basically on par with the season average if i am not mistaken right?so what is with the GAA goin up from like 2.15 to 2.30?
the team average
is 33.8 shots and 24.4 shots against per game. Our GAA during that span is actually 3.00, while our goals-for is 2.88. Season average GAA is 2.31, and season average goals-for is 3.13.
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 15, 2010 12:52 PM CST up reply actions
Got that
the GAA was i htink like at 2.14 or 2.15 before the so called slump….i’m jsut wondering what has changed in that time that the Hawks are allowing 3 goals a game,the shots average in the last 17 is 25.18 according to you,,that is only 1 shot more than the season average….I realize that when you take a look at the schedule it was the toughest point of the season….and of those 17 games 11 were on the road,including a ridiculous 8 game road trip that took them all over norhtern canada to the east coast in Carolina,just wwondering why they have allowed more goals than usual…The D has made some mistakes,but they haven’t been that bad,at least IMO
Pre-Minnesota stats
GAA – 2.045
GF – 3.22
SF/G – 33.43
SA/G – 24.068
I think it’s just the time of the season.
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 15, 2010 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
For sure
Last we were losing these games. Anyone remember the Vancouver smackdown? This year we’re so much better than these losses are turning into wins.
I've lost you man
the Vancouva smack down?when the Haks lost to Van in chitown?
Yeah i remember that
You do have a point….last year they went through a nasty losing streak and everyone thought they were gonna be one and done….but even after the nasty losing streak,like the last 10 games,i recall hte hawks having their A game,and that is really what matters,hitting your stride at the end of march and beginning of April right on time for playoff hockey
Well hopefully
it is just that time of the season…the big road trip,combined with the fact that the Hawks were do a slump….i would really like to see them get back on track,even though a 10-5-2 so called “SLUMP” isn’t awful at all,its actually ok
I could only imagine the Meatball Rage
if we were having a New Jersey or Sabres type of streak. Right now both are 3-5-2 in their last ten. Another thing is that with the Hawks scraping these wins allows them to further create a cushion in the Central. So if they are tired, Q will be able to sit and rest a lot of our guys.
Dude i'm not
really thinking that were done or anything…and yes i do realize NJ and Buff are in a bit of a slump too…and Wash has lost 3 in a row now,there is a reason i put the word slump in quotation marks,i’ve just heard that people have been calling it a slump on other websites newspapers etc…
Not questioning you. You for sure know your stuff
I found myself trying to figure the cause of this slump too. Our SOG differential is still solid. I was sorta trying to search if there is a quality SOG stat. How could we consistently be playing peppering the opposition without smoking them? There is no way every goalie we face is playing their best game of the season but it always seems like it.
...better to slump now
…then in the paly-offs…Slump aways boys!
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
Better to slump
now than in the playoffs is true….even though during a 17 game stretch you are over .500 it shouldn’t count as a slump…..man,who is gonna wait 2 weeks for the olympics to pass…this sucks!
That is what i was trying to figure out
but i had no luck at all….i do admit that the D and the forwards have been turning the puck over more than earlier in the season,hence the eason that Q benched Steeger for the 2nd and 3rd periods yesterday,however i still haven’t been able to see anythin that would gimme a clue to the reason for the so many goals allowed lately
Beware of the "quality shot" rabbit hole...
…these data are malleable and, if tortured enough, will confess to anything.
I think when an argument reaches this point, people simply have to agree to disagree.
Having said that, I’m right. The problem, to the extent there is a problem, is more goalie than defense.
You trying to say
there isn’t a problem?or that big of a problem that everyone is making it out to be?
The latter
Quoting myself below:
Our guys are our guys. Plainly, they’ve been good enough so far, but by no means great. Goaltending is important but ultimately overrated. This team is great.
As it pertains to this parituclar argument though (who’s at fault for increase in goals allowed?), my point is that the argument has reached an impasse.
Hahahahahaha
i’m done for today…i’ll try and come up with some new theories tomorrow and for the rest of this 2 week layoff
"scraping these wins"
That’s it exactly.
A really good young team learning to win games where they don’t play all that great.
I'd say part goaltending...
…part more lapses that create quality chances. And therein lies the debate.
Putting the 25 SOG allowed into perspective, this is the period over which the defense has been “lit up”. The Hawks typically allow 24 shots a game. This number is completely off the charts- #2 in the league is more than 27 / game.
I happen to think the Hawks .883 SV% during the stretch might have more explanatory power than defensive breakdown, but this argument is starting to feel like another goalie debate rabbit hole.
by cliffkoroll on Feb 15, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
Hahahahahaha
It seems like a loop….you go and blame the goalies a little,and then you see the D make a mistake which is inevitable,and then you blame the D and say they aren’t that good…donno,just hope they take care of this problem before the playoffs start…again,i donno know if i’m being a homer or not,but i do think that the fact that 11 of those 17 games have been on the road,and that has affected their play
I'm gonna go with AirTrafficAJ's error chain
it’s not one thing necessarily, just more than a few things going wrong around the same time.
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 15, 2010 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
i agree with that
but i guess the question is will these things that have gone wrong at the same time stop,or will the trend continue..hahaha,i’m losin it!!!
Was he the one
who compared it to the QB/receiver debate? Because that’s exactly what this is — can’t blame one, because it’s a chain.
Every time you mention my "error chain"
You owe me 5 bucks, or a “that’s what she said”.
Your choice.
"To the BeeMobile!"
"You mean your Chevy?"
"...yes."
by AirTrafficAJ on Feb 15, 2010 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
Put the doggy in the bathtub!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 5:43 PM CST up reply actions
I was thinking the exact same thing last night
“Maybe the Minny loss wasn’t such a learning experience?”
But then I thought it through a little further and realized that maybe it really was. Without that blow up and the resulting mediocre play, we might walk into the playoff with a misplaced sense of invincibility (can you say Sharks?). I think the timing was perfect. Now the Hawks’ brass has 2 weeks to step back and address some of the issues that have come to light. As a result, I look forward to the Hawks being more grounded and definitely more prepared for the task that lies ahead.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
Absolutely on Johnsson
People say our guys are young, but I still don’t think playing almost half of every game during the regular season is good for anybody. Even though they’re not the ones getting hurt, I’ve been wondering how long it’d be before injuries struck us again (no way we were getting through the whole season as healthy as we were), and I’ve been really worried about our top D men.
Interestingly I think I read somewhere that he’d be moved around a bit, and I did seem to notice him out there with the Other Meatball a bit — was that just on shift changes, or maybe PK time?
they had
2 shifts together in the first, 1 shift in the 2nd, and 4 in the 3rd.
PK shifts include 1 shift in 1st, the lone shift in the 2nd, and 2 shifts in the 3rd.
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 15, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions
I make most of my important decisions based on booze
With Huet, I drink cause I have to
With Neimi, I drink cause I want to
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
by ccm on Feb 15, 2010 11:43 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
We collectively wonder as a town why Chicago gets treated as a second-rate cornpone outpost by the so-called major sporting outlets, and yet we continue to rage on in asinine debates such as this, or anything Bears quarterback related. We deserve everything we get. This is fucking retarded, and I’m tired of hearing about it, particularly in this case because it doesn’t matter in the least. The team is good enough around the goaltenders, and they’re basically the same guy. Everyone wanted a “game manager” quarterback for the Bears and let the defense do all the work. Well guess what people, that’s what you have now with the Hawks goalie situation. Shut the fuck up about it. Two weeks of this debate is going to give me a prolapsed asshole.
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame.
by McClure on Feb 15, 2010 12:03 PM CST reply actions 6 recs
Two weeks of this debate is going to give me a prolapsed asshole.
Pics or it didn’t happen.
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 15, 2010 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
Instant rec
Thanks. I might not be the biggest offender but I’m guilty as charged as well. I’ll shut up now.
Thank-you.
I think we’ve all had heard enough about this goaltender debate.
Let the Olympic spirit live in everyone.
GO CANADA GO!
Congratulations to Alexandre Bilodeau on being the first Canadian to win on home soil.
Well said
Let’s just take these two weeks and enjoy the best hockey we’re about to see in our lifetime.
Let’s also take the time to enjoy, in my mind, the best celebration of sports in the Olympics as it’s really amazing to witness athlete’s, whom you’ve never heard of before, achieve the heights of greatness that brings more national pride than anything can.
But for arguements sake, the ‘Hawks 41 wins in 61 games is the best in the entire NHL. Just sayin’.
Let the Olympic spirit live in everyone.
GO CANADA GO!
Congratulations to Alexandre Bilodeau on being the first Canadian to win on home soil.
But there has been progress...
…not one ninnyheaded trade proposal on the entire thread.
I actually think Hawk Nation is groping toward a consensus position I have long-embraced, viz.:
Our guys are our guys. Plainly, they’ve been good enough so far, but by no means great. Goaltending is important but ultimately overrated. This team is great.
by cliffkoroll on Feb 15, 2010 12:25 PM CST up reply actions
A fairer way of putting it might be to say
that the Hawks outgrew Barker. Ultimately, if both the short and long term results of this trade work out, we should be thanking him.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
Imagine if we traded Kaner think of the
………. both the short and long term results of this trade work
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
I'm try to do
but it’s etched in my brain like a prolapsed asshole ;)
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
like i said before in an earlier post
Im done with it for the rest of the year! I refuse to comment or read any post that says anything about goalies unless its: “said goaltender had a great game!” or something positive! This is ridiculous! Enjoy the team we have seeing as how I haven’t seen a hawks team this good in over a decade!
Drink it up!
If anything
the debate should be taken “outside” — as in, to a FanPost. Ideally if we could make a new section that is lower than FanPosts it would belong there.
The amazing part of all of this
is that I posted the Borg boycott comment LAST NIGHT before all this hell broke lose!
I definitely will take my fair share of the blame, but it’s like we’re all the dog from the movie “Up!” We see someone post a goalie’s name and it’s like “Squirrel!” We all instinctively drop what we we’re talking about and start chasing a rodent down a rabbit hole.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
The boycott is a great idea...
Suggestion: Let’s treat it like a drinking game… when someone brings up our “G-spot”, since we collectively cannot ignore it (this has been established, I’m guilty as sin here)
reply with something random as hell, like how’s the weather, pork doughnuts, etc. and applaud the most brilliant effort to go a different direction.
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
To be fair
The national media would give Chicago a lot more credibility if Derek Lee or Carlos Quentin would get photographed banging Madonna. If the sox get Johnny Damon, it’s a step in the right direction of insanity.
"To the BeeMobile!"
"You mean your Chevy?"
"...yes."
by AirTrafficAJ on Feb 15, 2010 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
Madonna?
Those chicks in the limo were 50 times better looking than that skank
Competitive violence, that's why you're here!
Rectum? Damn near killed him.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=prolapsed%20sphincter
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
Maybe from here on out
the Hawks should play Niemi & Huet like starting and relief pitchers. Split time between goalies when the rest of the team is playing good or bad will settle this #1 garbage.
By the way, I hope this comment comes across as stupid as I want it to.
Competitive violence, that's why you're here!
BOYCOTTED!
And yes, complete success ;)
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
Now that that's out of the way,
I can concentrate on more important things like tying my shoes or remembering to inhale and exhale in order to get oxygen to my brain.
Competitive violence, that's why you're here!
Talent? Yah, we've got that covered.
I know our defence wasn’t the greatest over the weekend but you can’t complain about how those games played out as both were suprisingly highly entertaining, especially yesterday with the ’hawks playing in less than 24 hours.
Niemi wasn’t the greatest out there but made the key saves when called upon, which is no different than what any other goaltender is asked of in this league. If not for Garon the ‘hawks would’ve won this game 10-4 he was that good for the Jackets.
Patrick “Devil on my Shoulder” Kane is as tough as nails. He took one massive, clean hit and just got up and decided that he was at that point going to make the Jackets pay the best way he can and took the game over and made Garon look like a rented mule on the shootout attempt. The kid is fuckin’ good.
Props to Troy Boy who is starting to remind me of Kevin Stevens back in the day. A power forward that can take care of the stars with his toughness yet has a excellent touch around the net that could pot 25-30 goals (which he could this year). Trust me there’s not a lot of these guys in the league right now and with his $1.2 million salary he may have surpassed Sharpie as the best bargain for the ’hawks right now.
Let the Olympic spirit live in everyone.
GO CANADA GO!
Congratulations to Alexandre Bilodeau on being the first Canadian to win on home soil.
Speaking of figure skating
Now I was pretty drunk at this point mind you, but did the German pair come out dressed like our PP? As soon as I seen those costumes that’s what I was thinking of. Who else thought the same thing?
Let the Olympic spirit live in everyone.
GO CANADA GO!
Congratulations to Alexandre Bilodeau on being the first Canadian to win on home soil.
by hawks61 on Feb 15, 2010 12:38 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
HAHA Hilarious
No I didn’t think that when i saw it but i do know exactly what you are talking about
September 26, 2007 The day a Franchise was reborn.
lol no, but a friend on Twitter made this astute observation
This guy has a stop light on his chest, with the Go near his crotch. Take that how you will, America.
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 15, 2010 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
That was my first thought when I saw them!
Second thought – hope you perform better than the Hawks’ PP
by Katherine215 on Feb 15, 2010 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
Anyone unemployed like me?
I think I’m going to watch the USA game tomorrow at a bar. 2pm start time.
"Another successful interaction with a man!" - Liz Lemon
Beware
It’s a 2pm Pacific time start.
"To the BeeMobile!"
"You mean your Chevy?"
"...yes."
by AirTrafficAJ on Feb 15, 2010 2:18 PM CST up reply actions
According to NBC (Chicago Time)
USA vs Switzerland is 2 PM Chicago time Tuesday on USA network
http://www.nbcolympics.com/tv-listings/zone=CT/sport=IH/index.html
Later on Tuesday, Canada vs Norway is at 7:00 on CNBC
On late Wednesday, Slovakia takes on Czech Republic at 11:30PM on CNBC
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
My mistake.
Thanks for that.
"To the BeeMobile!"
"You mean your Chevy?"
"...yes."
by AirTrafficAJ on Feb 15, 2010 6:13 PM CST up reply actions
Unemployed, but lovin the “new” hockey!
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on Feb 15, 2010 2:22 PM CST up reply actions
Also,
I just want to brag again,The best wife in the world got 2 tickets to the Hawks/blues game on Mar 30th. Section 118, ON THE FUCKING GLASS!
Funny part of it, is that she didn’t know what she was doing, she just figured that the more expensive seat would have a better view than the balcony.
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on Feb 15, 2010 2:26 PM CST reply actions
Like my face will not be 2mm away from it at ALL times, lol
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on Feb 16, 2010 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
Has anyone played Tiger's Transgressions Golf?
I didn’t get seats on the glass from my wife, but she did send me this link from work today. I scored a 30 on my first try. 32 on my second.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 2:30 PM CST reply actions
I posted that on this blog, like, two months ago!
"Another successful interaction with a man!" - Liz Lemon
Are you calling my wife 'slow'?!
I think I remember you telling people to STFU regarding the goalie debate at about that time too.
She how far that got you? ;)
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
in fact, you posted it twice, because it got lost in a post flurry following a goal or something.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
It seems this made an impression on you
so fess up. What’s your low score?
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 7:32 PM CST up reply actions
Is that where you drive the ball to pick off the mistress...
…before she gets to the TV truck?
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
Yes
Once the ho gets inside, the van starts bouncing up and down like it’s in an East L.A. parade, cameras flash, and there’s cheering and…
Oh wait, that was spring break ’90. My bad.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
43, then 33, then 27
I’m addicted.
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 15, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
ah, the thrill of scoring a "ho in one"...
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
23 on the first try
I knew all that high school golf would come in handy one day…
THE CAP IS COMING! THE CAP IS COMING! REPENT ALL YE BANDWAGONERS FOR THE CAPOCALYPSE IS NEAR!
I'm late to the thread, once again ...
But what does everyone think of the goaltenders? Just curious.
www.mjt.org
LOL Hey guys! Playing cards??
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
For Team Canada, I like Brodeur, and for USA, like Ryan Miller...
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
Completely unrelated to hockey but
did the person interviewing with the Stars fan last week get the job?
Nope, he was supplanted by the backup interviewee, who had precisely the same qualifications and yet had less experience. Also, he was ridiculed for his shortcomings even though the hew hire resembled him in almost every significant category.
www.mjt.org
by ChicoMaki on Feb 15, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
That sucks, I'm sorry
Dallas is way less awesome than Chicago. And you’d have had to put up with Stars and Cowboys fans. And Dallas will not be nearly as ecstatic as Chicago will be when the Hawks win.
I’m assuming you do not live in Dallas and love it.
by Katherine215 on Feb 15, 2010 5:00 PM CST up reply actions
Assumption correct … but I actually don’t know anything about this. Just thought it was a good chance to make veiled reference to Huet/Niemi.
www.mjt.org
that's why I rec'd it
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 15, 2010 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
HEY!
That’s so tricky of you, I genuinely felt bad for you!
It’s not nice to play tricks on a gullible person when it’s her birthday.
by Katherine215 on Feb 15, 2010 7:04 PM CST up reply actions
I totally missed the Huet/Niemi reference
and I’m a bottle blonde too. sigh.
by Katherine215 on Feb 15, 2010 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
At least you're not a bottle brunette
But, seriously, how could you miss that? It was one of the greatest witty replies I’ve seen on this site. “backup interviewee” Classic!
Happy birthday! Unless you’re just eliciting sympathy.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
oh hey
katherine*215*
that makes sense now
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
I know, it was hilarious
once it was pointed out to me. I’m oblivious sometimes. Ok, a lot of the time.
What can I say? I’m old today.
by Katherine215 on Feb 15, 2010 7:31 PM CST up reply actions
how old is old? 90? 75? 25? 16?
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
oh, you know, i studied medieval lit for a while.
basically, you’re not old (although you may be older than me).
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
I am older than you
by 3 years.
And I googled faugh. Just was not sure why you were saying it
by Katherine215 on Feb 15, 2010 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
you seem pretty sure about your 3 year statement.
i have no idea why i responded with faugh. i say it a lot.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
you said you were Crawford's age
I’m a math whiz.
by Katherine215 on Feb 15, 2010 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
did he mean...
Corey Crawford the goalie?
or…
Johnny Crawford the Rifleman?
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
the conversation was about goalie's I think
I’m going with Corey
by Katherine215 on Feb 15, 2010 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
there was also the bit where i said we’re almost the same person
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
wasn't that the same conversation?
They say the memory is the first to go…they’re right
by Katherine215 on Feb 15, 2010 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
what are you talking about? i forgot.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
this is
the longest chain of replies I have ever seen! I want to see how small they can get!
Drink it up!
Prob because it sounds like and is used like
“Fan!” in Swedish. Never looked up the etymology, but I wonder if there is a common root. I use it occasionally too. I’m used to the odd looks.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 15, 2010 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
you're young...
trust me on this…
you got twenty years before the wheels start falling off…
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
I know, mostly I'm kidding
It is sad to know I’m in my last year of my 20s though
by Katherine215 on Feb 15, 2010 7:46 PM CST up reply actions
Happy Birthday!
Watch out though, for women the wheels tend to fall off earlier. ;) But you’ve still got over a decade.
2009 SCH Post Whore
2010 Troll Collector
SCH's Resident Mom
Wow, that makes me feel wonderful
Thanks!
by Katherine215 on Feb 15, 2010 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
don't worry
my wheels fell off long ago.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
I'm so tired of this goalie debate: Here's a solution
It’s time we went with this guy:
He has tons of playoff expereience. He hasn’t lost a game in 27 years, which was also the last time he gave up a soft goal. He looks like he’s a better goalie. He isn’t French. He’s never given up a goal in a shootout. And I hear the players are more confident with him in goal.
We may want to buy him some new pads though.
Chicagoan in the Lou.
by Mike Martin on Feb 15, 2010 4:57 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Nah, Carey Price sucks.
Just ask the Habs.
"To the BeeMobile!"
"You mean your Chevy?"
"...yes."
by AirTrafficAJ on Feb 15, 2010 6:19 PM CST up reply actions
but I still remember the softy he gave up in Game 7 of the Cup finals
at home, to start the loss rolling
I'm still scarred by that...
But good to know someone out there is old enough to feel my pain.
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
Yes. Yes. Yes.
This teenager broke a radio that night. I went on You Tube last week and listened to Lloyd Petit’s call of the end of the 7th game of that series.
Still sounds miserable. Petit was great, the game — not so much.
by San Diego Smooth Jazz Man on Feb 15, 2010 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
you’re a teenager? or are you referring to some specific teenager that i don’t know?
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
1961 Blackhawks
1961 BlackHawks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB-csuX0GBk
By the way, they beat SCUM to win it!
Gunzo’s sells the DVD for $17.95…
http://www.gunzos.com/c211/THE-FORGOTTEN-CHAMPS-p7915.html
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
Wasn't quite 3 years old for that one - so I don't recall
and there were only 6 teams back then – so it was generally beating Montreal or Detroit (NYR, Boston and Toronto rather regularly sucked – though Toronto didn’t suck like nowadays)
I was six...
…so it’s one of those seared-in memories. I’ll be drooling into my afghan a few decades hence, but I’ll still remember THAT!
1971 blackhawks
This is what I could dig up:
http://fans.blackhawks.nhl.com/topic/19988/t/7th-Game-Stanley-Cup-Final-in-71.html
Lloyd Pettit was the greatest announcer EVER no disrespect to anyone else, I grew up on this… (and home games were blacked out)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsXYB0qYyvM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hSLxD5mIKg&feature=related
Many of the SRO crowd had climbed onto the rafters for this one. No matter what the crowd ACTUALLY was, because of the fire codes, it was always listed as 16,666 (or something like that) there was fog on the ice, and Tony-o let in a shot from center ice because of it.
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
For me
that game was and is to this day the worst memory I have of any sporting event. I just remember being so pissed I had to run out of the house.
Competitive violence, that's why you're here!
Same here
I hoping that this wonderful team will remove all of that pain…
I sure wanna see them hoist that cup before I’m done.
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
off topic completely
gmh, your call on the sour cream donut was right on.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
Sounds like a heart attack to me...
pork flavoed doughnuts… lol
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
that sounds disgusting
but not more than these: http://medousa.vox.com/library/post/aji-ichinban-meat-candy.html
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
I've been to Japan a few times...
And some of the menu selections are… amazing?
One of my favorite websites is www.engrish.com
The Japanese are always trying to find western sounding titles that are catchy, and often go horribly wrong.
I can always find something at this website that makes me laugh. Try it!
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
engrish!
I saw a middle-aged, respectable Japanese tourist in Turkey one time. He had on a baseball cap that said something along the lines of: Gold Fuck Tap. I don’t remember it exactly, but my friends and I couldn’t stop laughing.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
on the plane home once...
The teenager sitting in front of me was proudly wearing a t-shirt that said “what the fucking are you doing?”
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
didn't realize until now...
just how much I rove engrish! That site is hilarious; my favorite so far was the “sweet dream” cake packaging.
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