Kovalchuk to the Devils
Well, so much for the angst/fantasy of him coming here. Clearly, that's a package the Hawks could have matched, though Bergfors and Oduya are very nice players. Can only conclude the Hawks weren't interested, which is fine. Anyway, I'm relieved he's in the East, and not on Kopitar's or Zetterberg's wing. Not yet anyway.
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If you want to act like a Devil, well here you go.
I’m offficially happy that Stan didn’t try to match this offer for a rental player. Sure he could’ve matched with Bolland, Hjalmarsson, Olsen, and a 1st round pick but to me that would’ve been too much for a rental. That’s all he would have been for he’s already turned down offers of $70 million over 7 years and a whopping $101 million over 12 years.
Some of the best deals you make are the one you don’t make. In this case, it was a tremendous move for Stan not to make this deal.
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by hawks61 on Feb 4, 2010 10:10 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Amen!
rec’d
Totally fine with us not getting Kovy and that he didn’t end up with a team in the west…for now
Reppin Chi-Town on the other side of the Pacific!
by BlackhawksJapan on Feb 5, 2010 12:23 AM CST up reply actions
You do know hy he rejected those offers right?
You make it sound as if he wants more $ than what was offered. That’s fine if that’s your opinion but I bet he rejected those offers TO GET THE HELL OUT OF ATLANTA!
I’ll eat crow if i need to later but I’m willing to bet he’ll take a similar offer from another team he just didn’t want to stay in that wasteland of the NHL
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Hot-lanta?
Does Kovy leaving town mean that this will be the second time an NHL team has left Atlanta? If they don’t continue to contend, which they won’t, could this be the death knell for the Thrashers?
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by Madhouse IN Madison on Feb 5, 2010 12:35 PM CST up reply actions
They can serve as the farm team for the Chicago Wolves
by Bonvie5ForFighting on Feb 5, 2010 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
Expos
Allan Muir over at SI.com likened the Thrashers organization to the erstwhile Montreal Expos, but I say that’s an insult to the Expos! They almost won in ’94, right? Right??
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by Madhouse IN Madison on Feb 5, 2010 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
As far as Kovalchuk goes
It should be interesting how the relationship between Kovalchuk and Lemaire blossoms. He drove Lafleur away from Montreal, Nicholls from New Jersey, and Gaborik from Minnesota. Needless to say superstars and Lemaire with his “system” don’t end up in a happy marriage.
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So you take a fast, high-flying, shoot-first-add-assists-later, no backcheking forward to a team coached by Jacques Lemaire? Good luck with that.
Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.
by russellguldin on Feb 5, 2010 6:54 AM CST up reply actions
Dont you need to know
where your own end is to play in a Lemaire system ?
by Bonvie5ForFighting on Feb 5, 2010 1:14 PM CST up reply actions
the inclusion of Cormier adds intrigue that was otherwise lacking in this trade season
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
Funny you say that
I was thinking the same thing.
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Well, so much for the angst/fantasy of him
Going to blank school…
Highly touted 13-year-old QB David Sills, a 7th grader in Delaware, makes verbal commitment to USC
That was the exact text message I just received from ESPN as a college football headline.
What the fuck?
wait what?
I know
This has nothing to do with this blog, but I’m just so mystified I had to share my confusion with others.
wait what?
it has...
been going on in College basketball for a few years now… i completely agree its retarded. but it is what it is
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by soupy's spin-o-rama on Feb 4, 2010 11:03 PM CST up reply actions
"that's a package the Hawks could have matched"
Not knowing ANYthing about the NJ players, who would have been our “matches” for this trade?
Versteeg, Barker, Beach/Aliu
Would be damn near identical. Barker isn’t as much on the defensive side as Oduya, so possibly Hjalmarsson would be more analagous, but either way, that’s basically the same package.
If NJ gave up their equivalent of Hjalmarsson, Versteeg, Beach/Aliu, AND a first round pick on top of that (granted it’s going to be a 25-29th overall pick), they definitely lost out on the trade, gaining only a rental for a few months.
Buuuuuut…I can see why they did it. This may be one of their last serious runs at the cup now that Marty is getting up there in years.
by Ban on Feb 5, 2010 1:23 AM CST up reply actions
It's like if the Hawks gave up those players
and one of those players was also a dirty little piece of shit who flew around the ice with his elbows up.
by HungryHungryPanda on Feb 5, 2010 7:48 AM CST up reply actions
beat me to it
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 5, 2010 8:52 AM CST up reply actions
Is Beach really a dirty player?
I thought he just liked to fight. Again, a serious question.
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actually, Cormier's rep is as a strong, hard-hitting power forward
He didn’t really play dirtily until that hit on Tam. And it sounded like Lamoriello resisted adding Cormier to the package until the last minute, and that was what put the Devils ahead.
I haven’t really heard much about dirty hits from Beach, but he’s a chippy player and was kicked out of the Icehogs last year for some off-ice shenanigans.
It’s probably just an unfair perception given his reputation.
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 5, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions
The nation of Sweden disagrees with your assessment of Cormier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hzeOhL8_9g
He also had another “elbowing” issue in the QMJHL before the World Juniors. I think it’s safe to say he’s a fairly reckless player as opposed to Beach who is mostly just an agitator.
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by El Duque's Raft on Feb 5, 2010 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, bad comparison
That’s an insult to Beach and agitators everywhere. Cormier has a history and seems totally unapologetic about his dirty play. He belongs on the Canucks.
by HungryHungryPanda on Feb 5, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
It's also not a fair comparison
because Beach actually has some offensive skills and is projected as a top 6 player. Cormier is projected as a 3rd/4th line center. Apples and oranges.
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by El Duque's Raft on Feb 5, 2010 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
The Devils got Salmela too.
He’s not much yet, but there’s room for improvement. He’s a big dude on the blue line. And they swapped 2nd rounders so that should be a much earlier pick in what is supposed to be a pretty deep draft.
did they get that
from undercooked chicken ?
by Bonvie5ForFighting on Feb 5, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Would birds eating chickens be cannibalism?
by Original Six on Feb 5, 2010 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
Neidermayer is still out there
and I know the Devils wont be gunning for him after this so I think that the cards would fold nicely if we tried to get him!
Drink it up!
Niedermayer would be a good pick-up if the Ducks want to move him
Any reason he’s got the worst +/- (-17) on the team though?
Maybe they can just give us J-Wiz back instead?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 5, 2010 2:17 AM CST up reply actions
That would mean wizwear for everyone!
They brought their fuckin' TOYS with 'em!
by ZootSuitZombie on Feb 5, 2010 2:24 AM CST up reply actions
Well unfortunately that puts the kibosh on McClure’s Ridiculous Deadline Deal Prediction although he totally nailed it that this would be an event. I personally wouldn’t have minded seeing the Hawks give up the bodies if I thought they had a rat’s ass chance to sign Kovy. I figured Hossa might be able to ‘splain him a thing or two about backchecking. It became pretty apparent that was a pipe dream after seeing those numbers today. That’s a lot of rubles! Are you getting enough oxygen, comrade??
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 5, 2010 1:52 AM CST reply actions
After turning down
10 million per year, I think Kovalchuk just wanted out of Atlanta. I’m pretty sure he’ll sign for less on another team. There are even rumors that he may go to the KHL where he’ll get paid a shitload of money and not have to pay tax.
Speaking of the KHL, check out the link. Our buddy Archie is back.
http://www.russianhockeyfans.com/khl/alexei-zhamnov-i-decided-to-return-115.html
Competitive violence, that's why you're here!
It figures that the only team that would sing his lazy ass would need him to be its GM. Mother FUCK Archie!
Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.
by russellguldin on Feb 5, 2010 6:51 AM CST up reply actions
Holy fuck is my spelling poor
It figures that the only team that would sign his lazy ass would need him to be its GM.
Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.
by russellguldin on Feb 5, 2010 6:52 AM CST up reply actions
Ooops
I couldn’t agree with you more. i didn’t scroll down and read everything before i responded to Hawks61. He’ll sign for even to leess money than what was already offer. He’ll just do it somewhere other than ATL that’s all
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I'm sure it's a pipe dream for Atlanta
But what if Atlanta’s offer were still the best NHL offer on the table after the season ends. Would Atlanta’s GM be a lucky genius to be able to sign him in the offseason after getting a group of young talent? I know these things rarely happen, but I don’t see anyone stateside matching that offer. I also don’t see a KHL team being able to actually write checks for that amount.
Goo........d now all the Bull Shit can come to a end
Nobody is going anywhere, the Buffs, Barks, Versteegs and everyone else can now concentrate on the Cup. Maybe the trolls will finally shut up about Barker!!
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Not sure the strength of this "source", but...
from Eklund….
On Scott Niedermayer…
Talking to a source today, since the deal went down. Scott Niedermayer is the #1 target of one of the teams who pulled out of this Kovalchuk race. A team that is hell bent on a Stanley Cup. The Chicago Blackhawks pulled out of the Kovalchuk sweeps because they are holding onto certain chips to try and land Scott Niedermayer.
Giving the rumor wheel a spin.
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"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
Anaheim is 3 points out of a playoff spot. I see them holding onto Niedermeyer
by Crease Monkey on Feb 5, 2010 6:19 PM CST up reply actions
Yea we will see what happens before the deadline
They will move him.. Im very confident that they will. They have already made some moves and they are looking to get younger… They are not going to hang on to a player that they wernt going to resign anyways. Why hang on to something that still has value now when in a few months you will get nothing for him? Im no stock market expert but wouldnt you sell when your stocks peak rather than hang on to them and get nothing????
Drink it up!
They have already made some moves and they are looking to get younger
Toskala and Giguere are the same age, and Jason Blake is 3 years older. Anaheim is $22+M under the cap for next season, and it’s not like they’re teeming with defensemen. If they want him back, they have the money.
by Crease Monkey on Feb 5, 2010 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
They just had to mention it.....
So the Thrashers will have $16 million in cap dollars freed up. The UFA market is rather weak, but Chicago Blackhawks will need to clear $9 million of their books just to squeeze under the cap so there will be some salaries moved via trade.
For a weak-ass team in the EASTERN Conference
they sure as hell are interested in the Hawks cap. I saw they had a whole blog dedicated entirely to it back in December. BWA, I know your team blows and there’s subsequently not a lot to talk about there, but…really?
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"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
beyond this season...
Who would offer Kovalchuk a contract bigger than what Waddell offered? I’m sure there’s someone out there, just wondering who it would be.
I’m not sure exactly what Kovalchuk’s motives are. A lot are saying he clearly didn’t want to stay in Atlanta and was just using the money as an excuse, but discounting the fact that Waddell thought Kovalchuk would sign if he’d been offered what he was asking (because that’s not the most impartial source, is it?), didn’t Kovalchuk say he wanted to stay in Atlanta?
I know he also said, if not implied, that he wanted the Thrashers to show commitment to building a playoff contender, but how would paying him the maximum salary have helped achieve that? If what he really wants is for Atlanta to give him a good team, why are his demands based around a salary number that, correct me if I’m wrong, but no Cup contender would readily pay a single player?
Devils fans are, obviously, very happy with this development though. I’d be interested to see how Oduya’s loss affects them in the long run, but that team never seems to falter defensively anyway. I’m just glad he’s the East’s problem, at least for now.
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The man has kids to feed!
How can anyone be expected to live on $101 million?!?!?!
1 dollar = 30 rubles
$101 Million = $3.03 Billion
by Original Six on Feb 5, 2010 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
Jesus Christ, why did no one tell me
that Kovalchuk fathered Kyle Wellwood?
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 5, 2010 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
Did anyone listen to Rocky's interview yesterday on Waddle & Silvy?
He made it pretty clear Kovy wouldn’t be coming here. And quite frankly, I’m happy we didn’t go after him. Our minimal problems are not at forward. We already have a log jam now that Bolland and Burish are back.
Rocky also said they’re not going to make a trade just to help their cap issues for next year. Everyone in the organization is focused on winning a Stanley Cup this year, and if a trade is going to be made, it will only be one that would make the team better now.
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hey I saw you went to the lunch
How was it? Read Rogers’ write-up of the event and it sounded like Wirtz was fairly blunt about a lot of topics.
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 5, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
It was great!
Rogers write-up covered most of the topics he discussed. Rocky is probably the nicest, coolest rich guy I’ve ever met. All he cares about is this team being successful. He never wants to be in a “rebuilding year” ever again. He talked about everything – the limo pictures (he totally didn’t think it was a big deal), the olympics (thinks it does nothing to help the NHL), trades (see above), his favorite scotch (Johnny Walker Blue), our goalie situation (we don’t need to trade for one), and his dad.
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I haven't listened to it yet, but...
here’s the podcast
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
Anyone else think this is annoying as hell?
The “Shoop and a Shandwich” shtick, not Roos.
by HungryHungryPanda on Feb 5, 2010 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
It's probably one of the more annoying things...
that Waddle and Silvy do. I generally like everything they do, so it is only relatively annoying to me.
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
I liked it
for the first week. Now it’s their go to phrase and is overused
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Plus we’ve already played the Devils, a double win
by warrenjm2006 on Feb 5, 2010 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
we're still playing them in Jersey on April 2
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 5, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
My bad
I remember we play every Eastern team once and only a few twice. Who else is on the list of teams we play twice? I remember Boston and obviously Florida.
by warrenjm2006 on Feb 5, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
just those teams, I think
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 5, 2010 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
thats it outside of
Columbus and Nashville whom we play 47 times combined.
by Bonvie5ForFighting on Feb 5, 2010 12:33 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah
Its weird how we play AHL teams so many times.
by Original Six on Feb 5, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
Shoot this down if you must...
but is it possible they end up with turco? I’m not trying to start the Huet war again. I’m just a guy with a question.
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by oneminuteremainingintheperiodoneminute on Feb 5, 2010 11:21 AM CST reply actions
That idea is one that bloggers and reporters are more interested in than the Blackhawks front office.
by warrenjm2006 on Feb 5, 2010 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
Turco's no better
Take a look at his playoff career. nothing to write home about really
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Most likely
It seems Scotty is the one pushing for this move according to Kypreos and Millard today. So take it for what it’s worth.
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Q says Fraser is playing tonight
My money’s on Kopecky getting scratched.
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I didn't say Kopecky's out yet though
Just a guess. For all we know it could be… okay, yeah. It’s probably Kopecky.
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 5, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
Can he be deported ? Anyone have any connections in INS ?
by Bonvie5ForFighting on Feb 5, 2010 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
It's called ICE now
Immigration and
Customs
Enforcement
and I’ll ask my people
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The only Cup we can win is this years
i got a buddy...
who’s an ICE agent, i can see what he can do.
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by soupy's spin-o-rama on Feb 5, 2010 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
saw this on hockeenights tweeter thought it was good.
fisting barry rozner with every goal!!!
by soupy's spin-o-rama on Feb 5, 2010 2:40 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
I LOLed
and I am now properly ashamed.
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by chiblackhawks on Feb 5, 2010 2:49 PM CST up reply actions
OMG!
Its hilarious to me because my gf loves CSI Miami (I cant stand it) and I make fun of how every episode starts the same damn way!
Drink it up!
LOL
I just noticed he already has a pair of glasses on and he is putting a second pair on… the artist either forgot or did it to be funny… either way it makes me laugh!
Drink it up!
I had to Rec!
I think the stretch for one liners is hilarious on Miami. This would fit right in with the show. (which I love watching)
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on Feb 6, 2010 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
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