Barry Rozner Comes Out Of Cave, Sees Shadow, Means 6 More Weeks Of Total Bull----
by SamFels on Feb 8, 2010 1:51 PM CST
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I have to assume this came from the "I'm totally going to make something up so I can sound like a journalist for a day" pile he's got on his desk. I don't know if Rozner has actually talked to anyone or not, but the idea of James Wisniewski coming back to Chicago is laughable, except for any slight possibility of it happening makes me break out in cold sweats. As McClure pointed out when we talked about this, the only possible reason Stan Bowman would do this is to gain popularity amongst the droolers and non-ironic mustache wearers of Hawks Nation.
What purpose could he possibly serve? With Keith and Campbell QB-ing both power play units, it can't be that. Would he be the trigger man on the second unit? Great, so we can watch shots get blocked or rocket off the glass in a pattern only a blood-splatter expert would love. He's not big, so he can't clear the front of the net on the kill which Barker can (but doesn't always).
Oh, and the best part. HE'S A CHINESE FIRE DRILL IN HIS OWN END! Still is. He's been in the league a few years now, and he still makes some decisions that defy explanation. We talked with Ducks fans when they were here, and an overwhelming majority of them are at slit-wrists level of frustration with Wiz's cluelessness in his own end. Did no one watch Game 7 against Scum where he almost single handedly handed them three goals? Worse yet, his shotgun up the ice tendencies would leave Sopel completely exposed. While Catfish has been more than solid this year, that would greatly changed when his lead feet are asked to play center field. This is an asinine rumor, and if it comes to fruition I can finally hand in my verdict on Stan Bowman, and that would be "boob".
While it's no secret the Hawks would like to bolster their 3rd pairing, and Barker's high salary and lackluster play make him the leading candidate to hit the skids, this is clearly a case of Rozner adding 2 and 2 and getting 5.
While I'm on the subject, there's far too much smoke about the Hawks looking for a goalie to make me comfortable. I don't know how people could have watched, and I mean actually watch the game and not read the statsheet, and conclude the goaltending has been the problem. If the Hawks go off the rails in the playoffs, their recent defensive asshoolery and Doofus University on the power play would give me far more heartburn than the goalies.
And no name sets my pecker on fire, to quote Congressman David Dilbeck. Tim Thomas? 35 and paid 5 million for the next four years, and he's been stunningly mediocre this season. Dwayne Roloson? Even older, and aside from one great run in 2006, what's he done, exactly? He's never had a regular season SV% above .917 or a GAA under 2.70. Keep going.
Marty Turco? Finished. Giguere's gone to Toronto. Is there anyone left? Jaro Halak? Why would Montreal give him up when they've clearly tired of Carey Price? Cam Ward is hurt again. Even if the Hawks go and find another netminder, what's to be done with this Cristobal Huet? Stash him in the minors? Yeah, great, I'm sure people will be lining up in the summer to take him then.
I can't stand this mentality that the Hawks have to win this year or we'll never win again. Don't get me wrong, I want a Cup this season more than I want love, success, happiness, or McClure to leave me alone forever. But is this our only chance? Come on. The Hawks will ice a Top-6 next year made up of Toews, Kane, Hossa, Sharp, Bolland, and Brouwer AT WORST. Their Top-4 defensemen will be Keith, Seabrook, Campbell, and almost certainly Hammer (they'll never let him go). So tell me, how bad can that team be?
-One more thing that's grinding my gears. Why doesn't anyone question Washington's goaltending as much as ours? Jose Theodore has been middling for years now. Semyon Varlamov had a few good games in the playoffs last year, but he also had some real bad ones, and has all of 22 career games in the NHL. And the Hawks blue line corps is more solid than the Caps. But this is me getting all Second City persecuted again.
Rant over.
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Stuff like this is why I love coming here.
You guys are just so smart and logical. And the media, well, isn’t.
And I’m first to comment!
A first?
Havent seen that in a long ass time.
I know, I'm a dork
but it made me very excited to be the first to comment. It’s the little things in life.
Or the big things
Like engraving silverware in June.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
Any story that includes
the phrase of
CHINESE FIRE DRILL
deserves a rec by itself. Good memories.
Anyhow, I agree with you totally- these trade rumors are getting ridiculous. You hit the nail perfectly- the Hawks have a top-6 and top-4 of forwards and defensemen that will be their core for years to come- that is about half the team. And if I were on any other team, those 10 players on one team is pretty damn impressive.
Sure, I want the big shiny silver Cup in June, but they have set themselves up to be contenders for a very long time to come.
…God, that feels good to say it after the military junta that was the ownership of Dollar Bill in the last 10 years of his reign.
GO BLACKHAWKS
Witness to Mark Buehrle's perfect game July 23, 2009
I don't see this happening...
with Wisniewski or any goaltender at this point. Not to mention, there has been ZERO credible sources suggesting this potential deal for Wisniewski and only whispers of Turco but nobody else. Jeff Marek, of HNIC, only suggested that Thomas could be a fit for the ’Hawks not that he was coming here.
Once again the only deal that I’ve read or heard from a credible souce is Darren Dreger’s Andrej Meszaros from Tampa Bay coming here for Versteeg or Sharp and Barker reported rumour last week. But we all know that Sharp won’t be part of this deal so it’s likely Versteeg.
"Negative energy is better than no energy at all"- "Iron" Mike Keenan
By the way...
Cam Ward is never happening. Not now, not ever as Jim Rutherford would never trade him unless the Hawks were willing to part with Toews and we all know that is never going to happen either.
"Negative energy is better than no energy at all"- "Iron" Mike Keenan
Exactly.
Cam Ward and Erik Staal might be even more important to the Canes than Toews and Kane are to the Hawks. They would face an absolute fan backlash if they were to trade Ward (unless it were for Ovechkin or Crosby).
No Wiz = No Wins........
just kidding……..who remembers that ridiculous sign?
Wiz is not the answer, if the right blueliner isn’t there at the deadline there is no need to just pluck someone off of the scrap heap.
In regards to Huet, I’d like to quote the early 21st century philosopher Tom Waddle….“Don’t tell me how choppy the water is…..dock the boat.” All this talk about Huet and no one can provide a feasible solution, because as Sam pointed out, there aren’t any. We can win with our goaltending, you know what would help though, that other Anaheim defenseman, you know the gray beard that you can actually trust for some solid two way play on the blueline.
I demand more SCH opinion pieces, because this is awesome.
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
I think the most ridiculous thing associated with Wiz
is Wiz Wear..but i guess who wouldn’t love to see the Hawks in Campbell caps and Wiz booty shorts for post game interviews?
by blackhawkeyes on Feb 8, 2010 2:19 PM CST up reply actions
More to the point
Wiz isn’t even the question.
teaching respect for the Indian, one Red Wings fan at a time.
Thank you Thank Thank You
My head was about to “asplode” with Wiz coming back as an “upgrade” to Barker. You said what i wouldn’t be able to put into words due to the utter frustration of it all
September 26, 2007 The day a Franchise was reborn.
If Jose Theodore is the Capitals netminder for the playoffs...
Expect an early exit from the playoffs with the Capitals. I don’t care how much offence you have if your goaltender is that poor you’re going to lose. Especially if they run into teams like Ottawa, New Jersey, and Buffalo.
"Negative energy is better than no energy at all"- "Iron" Mike Keenan
Right on Point
Although they have all those offensive weapons the Caps will struggle with mechanical teams that stick to their disciplined system. They will try to suffocate the Caps as they know running with them is dumb. And as a last defense their goaltenders are world-class (excluding Elliot but damn he’s currently playing really well).
The Caps are a fantastic exciting team but I just don’t see players like Semin, Green and Backstrom handling the physicality of the playoffs when they are used to cruising through the creampuff Southeast division and Eastern Conference in general.
So...
Why is it the Caps goaltending won’t get them through the playoffs but ours will when it’s almost identical, minus the GAA? What happens when we run into those same mechanical teams that are supposed to take the Caps out of the playoffs?
by Ban on Feb 8, 2010 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
Because offensively oriented teams don't win championships
just like the Saints will never win the Super – wait, what?
I see your argument, but I think hawks61’s point is that Theodore really sucks.
It can be said that Huet is having an off year, but Theodore is probably having his best year since ‘03. And that’s not saying much.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 8, 2010 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
Uh yea...you totally read that wrong
If your going into the playoffs with an average goalie you better have a great defensive corp or system that prevents him from seeing quality chances. The Capitals do not possess that trait.
very very very good point about Theodore.
Also, this whole post. None of the trade rumors right now make any SENSE, from an on-ice point of view.
They talk just as much crap about Theodore as we do about Huet
I believe the difference is that Theodore can make a first save better than anybody. And I mean that. His biggest issue is giving up rebounds, and not just the rebounds that he can cover up, but the rebounds that bounce all the way to the slot. These are the types of rebounds that offensive-minded defensemen don’t clear out and snipers but in the net.
While watching Saturday's game I thought the same about Niemi
he made a lot of beautiful first saves but gave up some big rebounds. The difference was our defense did an awesome job of clearing out the crease. He has a lot of raw talent that I hope he continues to develop.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 9, 2010 8:57 AM CST up reply actions
Caps Goaltending
Is just as shit storm unpredictable as ours. The real difference (totally ignoring defense’s existence for simplicity) lies in their offense.
I hate the Caps almost as much as humanly possible. As sad as it is to admit, they simply have better offensive numbers than us.
If we were putting up 5 goals a game, we would not be hearing about our goaltending woes either.
BOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!
Caps Better Offensive Numbers
Because of better talent, better chemistry, crap conference, or sheer will (Ovi)?
Don’t we have all these “weapons” at our disposal, especially as Hossa & Bolland get back to “game form”? Shoot, sometimes Q-tip looks as confused as we are as to how to get the offense/PP going again as he plays musical chairs w/ the lines.
As our offense/PP goes the way of Global Warming (and H1N1), we’ve looked pretty average these last few games…and I HATE average.
I don't get it.
Just because your friend says she saw me in the club with some other bitches,
sitting in V.I.P,
Smoking, and drinking, and kicking it.
Uh.......
We’ve been averaging the best GAA in the league. I’ll take that average any day. Defense wins championships. Sure I’d like the Hawks to have the GFA and GAA but chill out dude.
Smoke a spliff, do yoga, meditate or whatever will calm you down. You have to remember the Caps play in the vaunted Southeast division where the 2nd best team is Tampa lol (Though Stamkos is a stud)
“We’ve been averaging the best GAA in the league. I’ll take that average any day. Defense wins championships.”
Tell that to Pitts, Ana and Carolina all who recently won the Cup and did it with goaltending that ranked 17th, 7th and 19th.
Name calling was dumb. My bad.
I see where you might assume I meant goaltending. What I meant is that the other eastern conference teams play a tighter defensive system than the Capitals and as a bonus have a better goalie to supplement their system. The Capitals seem to have gone all in with offense and see what happens. I just don’t see the space being available for the Capitals to make plays like in the regular season. Also come playoff times the referees seem to pretend some rules don’t exist and contact/interference becomes more prevalent.
To me there is a distinct difference between the Capitals and Blackhawks. Our great defensive corp is supplemented with excellent backchecking from our forwards. Its beautiful to see the combination work and chances suffocated. I haven’t watched the Caps enough to comment on the defensive prowess of their forwards but I’m assuming from reading comment from Boudreau that he’d like a greater emphasis on defensive responsibility.
I’m rambling but come playoff time I feel its the teams with defensive responsibility and opportune goals that end up winning the cup. The penguins won with Max freaking Talbot potting two goals
a combination of all of the above prolly...
I would love to say it is because of a crap conference, but let’s face it – we were hard pressed to pot more than 2 against Carolina, St. Louis, and Ottawa – not exactly defensive or goaltending powerhouses let alone point hording animals in their own right.
A lack of excuses for our low offensive numbers are exactly what’s behind Q’s Dr Kevorkian’esque line shifting. And I say slash away, our offense is nowhere near where it should be. Remember when we beat SJ 7-2 in the tank? That was Hoss man’s first game back, lines haven’t really been firing on all cylinders ever since then. I think Q got too comfortable with Kane-Toews-Brouwer and now is beginning to fully realize how much bigger and better we can be.
BOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!
I know that's a rough stretch
But we ran into three hot teams playing great defense at the time. And early February before the Olympic break is very different from mid-April. We’ll get hot and peak again, but we’ll do it at the right time. I remember getting ready to jump off a bridge last January, and good things ended up happening that year despite a bad string of games.
Jose
We have to remember that Theodore is a Vezina winner. With the right team he has proven to be unbeatable. I think Washingtons backend is to blame for the fowl smell.
Time to let it go
He won both a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 9, 2010 9:26 AM CST up reply actions
What I love
Is how every writer glosses over the fact none of the goalies the Hawks are supposedly looking at have good playoff records. That’s the biggest reason Huet is going to ruin our season, right? He has next to no playoff experience.
Turco was always considered a choker in the playoffs. He had that 1 series against the Canucks a few years ago, then blew it in the 2nd round. He’s a better option than Huet?
Tim Thomas has all of 1 playoff series win, or is it 2? Can’t remember now if the B’s beat the Habs a couple years ago….either way, after the sweep of Montreal last season, he then promptly blew their 2nd round series against the 7-seed Hurricanes. I don’t see the upgrade there.
Sure Cam Ward would be nice but that will never happen. How can a writer seriously float that as a legit rumor? Ward, along with Staal, is the rock of the Canes organization.
Roloson is the only goalie I’ve thought about the Hawks possibly picking up. He’s played for some piss-poor teams in his career and still put up decent numbers. If he hadn’t gotten hurt in the 2006 finals, he’d probably have a Stanley Cup to his name.
That being said, he’s 40 and I’m not sure he’s an upgrade over Huet anyways. Plus, believe it or not the Isles are in the playoff hunt and if they do trade a goalie, it will be Biron, not Roloson.
It’s just dumb the crap that gets passed off as journalism by these hacks.
I'm surprised
the names Khabibulin and Aucoin didn’t come in that “article”.
trade him for wiz!
Tremendously tremendous!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Feb 8, 2010 6:25 PM CST up reply actions
Wiz is the new Rowand.
Just because your friend says she saw me in the club with some other bitches,
sitting in V.I.P,
Smoking, and drinking, and kicking it.
Seing as how
The Sox centerfield situation has gone tits up since he left, you can hardly blame Sox nation on wanting the slightly above average Rowand back. At least in the Hawks situation the D has gotten better since Wizzzard left.
"To the BeeMobile!"
"You mean your Chevy?"
"...yes."
..and because Sopel is healthy this year
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
by ccm on Feb 9, 2010 5:26 AM CST up reply actions
as healthy as Sopel can be, anyways.
"To the BeeMobile!"
"You mean your Chevy?"
"...yes."
by AirTrafficAJ on Feb 9, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
Well
Let’s just say he hurts us a lot less than one would expect from a 3rd liner, and he usually makes the plays he’s physically capable of making (not saying that’s a lot, but just saying).
teaching respect for the Indian, one Red Wings fan at a time.
Eklund the clown!
This guy is a complete joke, but at least it’s entertaining to read sometimes. His latest “rumblings” are that we’re shopping Madden around because of the numbers game. I’d love to see how he determines who to make rumors up about.
Here’s what the clown said:
I am hearing that Madden may be on his way out in Chicago, and I will go on the record saying this is a huge mistake. Right now, it is a numbers game, but I was under the impression the experience of all of those Stanley Cup Playoff games in NJ was why Madden was signed. The Hawks are playing great right now and not really needing what it is Madden brings. But the second season is a totally new beast. If Madden is available there are definitley teams I could see getting involved. Teams who have had playoff issues, San Jose and Calgary.
by dirk grahams stache on Feb 8, 2010 3:14 PM CST reply actions
I was kinda
shocked to see that the Blackhawks were shopping Madden, i think Eklund is a dumbass…who are they gonna trade Madden for?an expiring contract?oh wait,he has a 1 year deal!!!!!!!duuuuuuh?unless hawks management is pissed at him for the pics in vancouver with kaner and steeger…..and another thing,yeah they’ll trade Madden t the Sharks,a conference rival that will contend for a CUP,yeah ok lets help out the Sharks….dumbass!!!!
by csm on Feb 8, 2010 4:17 PM CST up reply actions
Nice..
That actually makes sense. Lets get rid of one of the Vets that we brought here to help the team in the playoffs?
Yeah while
were at hit lets trade the other veteran they brought in to help the team in playoffs,Hossa,we’ll trade him and Madden to the Sharks for Clowe and Greiss,that way the Sharks have all the help they need to bring that CUP home to San Jose…..I said it the other day,Eklund Jaeckel are tools….i better stop reading their columns,otherwise
my ulcer is gonna pop
by csm on Feb 8, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions
Jaeckel
is an even bigger idiot. if you read his column on back to back days he will defend the viewpoint he attacks in the other. it’s fucking ridiculous. not to mention the fact that his shit sounds like a book report that was turned in a week late.
Thanks for reading!!!!!!!
these guys are boobs.
no way poppa scotty allows young boy to trade iron madden.
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
Doesn't Eklund write for hockeybuzz?
Enough said. Unless you read from any of the BIG 3 (McKenzie, Dreger, and Kypreos) it has ZERO credibility and probably won’t happen. If should come to true then it would be out of sheer luck and nothing else.
"Negative energy is better than no energy at all"- "Iron" Mike Keenan
Somebody.......on yesterdays thread
Says that talent wise Wiz and Barker are equal, but Wiz is better in the locker room. Why is he better in the locker room? “Not that there is anything wrong with that”. The only reason to bring Wiz back to the Hawks better be to unload salary for next year. We might as well get Liljia from Scum.
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
I know I know
The Liljia thing makes no sense. Proof before you post
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
Apparently, Kopecky is better in the locker room too...
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
Eklund
has Madden getting traded to either Calgary or San Jose. He must be getting MUCH better grass than I am.
I just don’t understand where this shit comes from.
If he was on the block
why the hell would you send him to Calgary or San Jose where he can do some damage against you.
Competitive violence, that's why you're here!
This just in!
The blackhawks to trade everyone for someone!
They brought their fuckin' TOYS with 'em!
by ZootSuitZombie on Feb 8, 2010 3:39 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
Your wish is my command
GO BLACKHAWKS
Witness to Mark Buehrle's perfect game July 23, 2009
by chisoxfan1473 on Feb 8, 2010 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
All I know is that another defenseman is needed
Cam Barker is useless. And Keith, Campbell and Hammer are all being run into the ground to the point we should be very concerned over the consequences come late season and playoff hockey.
Wiz? Not much of a fan, but he IS better than Barker. Not much doubt about that. Barker has significantly regressed to the point I’m wondering about post-concussion syndrome or too much booze in the veins.
Marty Turco? Something tells me Stan and Daddy like this idea. Which makes me unhappy.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
I'd like to know when this idea came about that our defensemen are getting over worked
and consequently, they’re going to be lesser players because of it. The oldest guy is 26 years old. How are we going to be acting when they actually start getting up there in years.
They play 20-something minutes a night; just like every other team’s top defensemen.
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Feb 8, 2010 4:17 PM CST up reply actions
Keith is wiped out in my estimation
ANd it is pissing Keith off. Hence why he tried to impersonate Denny Savard the other night by going coast to coast.
The defense is playing like crap. A step slow, coughing up the puck and stupid penalties. Plus Barker has devolved into an outright liability. It’s a problem in need of a fix, especially for a team that doesn’t exactly have Patrick Roy in his prime in the goal.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Ok
then why aren’t other defensemen this severely affected by averaging 25 minutes a night?
Barker is below average but he is hardly an outright liability.
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Feb 8, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
I'm no fan of Barker
But it seems like the better he plays, the more you bitch about him. He’s been okay for the last week or so.
by HungryHungryPanda on Feb 8, 2010 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
Also...
The Hawk formula for winning places strong emphasis on defensive pressing. Keith, Seabrook and Hammer work harder than your average NHL defenseman during the ice time. Hell, so does Sopel. Campbell also needs to be insulated from becoming a punching bag out there.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Now you're just making stuff up
How can you seriously quantify that the Hawks D works harder than your average NHL d-men?
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Feb 8, 2010 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
At this pace
when Keith and Seabrook are 30 years old, people are going to worry about them averaging more than 17 minutes a game otherwise they’ll get tired and be bad.
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Feb 8, 2010 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
Excellent Arcticle!
Much as Huet makes me nervous, there are plenty of downgrades available, and no upgrades.
Regarding Wiz, I just saw on bleacher report that Tab Bamford is quoting Rozner (oxymoron?) and there is a reader survey that shows fans are 90 – 10 in favour of Wiz coming back???
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/341765-james-wisniewski-chicago-blackhawks-rumors-finally
Gag me.
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
I couldn't verbalize how I felt, but you did! ...sorry.
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
this is the worst part about "bandwagon" fans
they don’t remember this lead-footed steak-head for the way he plays. They remember him blowing out his knee fighting Tootoo. (It was pretty awesome). I hate Jughead (Barker), but jeez, come on….are they going to pair him with Sopel? GREAT IDEA.
I'd venture to guess most bandwagon fans
have no recollection of his fight with Tootoo because they don’t really know what kind of player Wiz iz. Wiz is simply another name and in their minds unknown > known.
Just because your friend says she saw me in the club with some other bitches,
sitting in V.I.P,
Smoking, and drinking, and kicking it.
Wow.
Just a crap load of stupid from hockey “writers” today. First a Wiz rumor, now a Madden one? I seriously cannot wait until trade day comes and goes and this stupid shit goes away. Quite frankly, I’m incredibly pissed these mother fuckers get paid to write about hockey.
"Another successful interaction with a man!" - Liz Lemon
by Sportsgal on Feb 8, 2010 4:04 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
Thank you
I was thinking the same thing. It’s useless crap. It doesn’t make sense to move someone. If you wanna add another D, fine but not the names that are out there. I dont think Thomas is all that bad but I just don’t see the point of the trade right now, Huet and Niemi can be exactly what we need for this year if we can just stop the turnovers and play our game for the whole 60. Everything is now or never or some bullshit to write an article b/c it’s the “cool thing” these days.
Wiz is useless to trade for and is actually a downgrade. Have you seen him play? Lets just get March 3rd overwith.
We should have a party March 3rd...
To celebrate this crap is over…
Trixie can kick Rozner in the nards, whilst Sportsgal plays twister…
ah hell, this crap won’t stop on the 3rd, will it?
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
Only the acopolyse that ends the world can stop it.
In other words, nope.
GO BLACKHAWKS
Witness to Mark Buehrle's perfect game July 23, 2009
by chisoxfan1473 on Feb 8, 2010 11:47 PM CST up reply actions
But what about
CAPOLYPSE!!!????
Deal Lord what will we do in the offseason. Everyone stock up on essentials and head to the bomb shelter
September 26, 2007 The day a Franchise was reborn.
by Roos-34 on Feb 9, 2010 7:16 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
We should plot a course,
find every one of them and kick them in the nads. Unless you punch harder than I do, in which case I go for the kicks, you get to do punching.
2009 SCH Post Whore
2010 Troll Collector
SCH's Resident Mom
by Trixietrx on Feb 8, 2010 6:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
daily herald building isn't far from Arlington Heights
and we should get Rozner first so we have not gotten tired kicking anyone else first…
I’m picturing his ball sacks hanging out his ears once the SCH Nation is done..
"Youuuu Suck, Mayyyyers!!"
by Tiocfaidh ar La on Feb 8, 2010 6:29 PM CST up reply actions
actually its IN A.H.
geography fail
"Youuuu Suck, Mayyyyers!!"
by Tiocfaidh ar La on Feb 8, 2010 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
I say we both kick.
I like kicking better than punching. I’ll throw in some major nipple tweaking as well.
It’s sad that one of the greatest sports towns in all of North America has to be subjected to a bunch of hacks like these guys.
"Another successful interaction with a man!" - Liz Lemon
NIpple tweaking?
He may like that. Crap, 1/2 the clowns on this blog would like it.
by Bonvie5ForFighting on Feb 9, 2010 1:02 PM CST up reply actions
ESPN NHL rumors
A quick glance at their page (ESPNchicago has a link on their front page) shows the Hawks tied to Wiz, Parros, and Thomas. I can’t wait for March 4th, when we can stop hearing about this crap.
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
Interesting that Sassone says the Hawks are linked to Wiz as well
Not much of a Wiz fan, but he IS definitely better than Cam Barker. So if it is a straight swap or something similar, I wouldn’t be opposed. MUST get help at defenseman.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
I'd be opposed
As much as Barker annoys me, and I did love Wiz, just cause, I would think Barker has more ability to improve his game over time than Wiz.
I’d still rather have Hendry in for Barker, but unless they find someone really good to fill Barker’s spot, what’s the point of a trade like that?
2009 SCH Post Whore
2010 Troll Collector
SCH's Resident Mom
If this comment...
…from someone perpetually annoyed by Barker, is not damning of the whole idea, I don’t know what is.
Wiz, of course, is a right handed shooter
As is Sopel. Most right handed D aren’t used to playing left side (unlike left shooters who, because there are a lot more of them, very often do learn to play right side).
What D pairings would we have with adding Wiz? It just doesn’t work.
by krome on Feb 9, 2010 5:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
really?
the Hedgehog? Could we get him to leave the CA porn industry?
"Youuuu Suck, Mayyyyers!!"
by Tiocfaidh ar La on Feb 8, 2010 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
Parros coming here is impossible.
There is NO WAY Q would allow someone to come here who could dethrone him from his EPIC MUSTACHE OF CHICAGO seat.
"Another successful interaction with a man!" - Liz Lemon
Parros' mustache isn't so much a 'stache but a lip beard.
It’s like a caveman vs. a renaissance man. The Q ’stache would never allow itself to become so undignified.
"To the BeeMobile!"
"You mean your Chevy?"
"...yes."
by AirTrafficAJ on Feb 9, 2010 12:40 AM CST up reply actions
The thing about Parros
Is that he has a peg leg and he keeps a pet parrot in the locker room. The best part though is he taught the parrot all the Edzo Bingo phrases.
wait what?
I think we should trade Byfuglien
So that next year, these guys can start rumors about him coming back because the ’Hawks miss his physicality and locker room presence.
I’m just mad at Buff lately. I can’t control. He has so much damn potential! Just kills me knowing that he could be as he was in the playoffs or the phew times i saw this year. if he just gave a shit a little more…sigh..
...and his bag of weed??
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
by ccm on Feb 9, 2010 5:17 AM CST up reply actions
It's kinda like this...
Remember when Vick got busted for Weed at the airport? It was because he was stupid enough to carry it himself, you need to let someone in your posse carry it for you. It’s the same with Buff, why risk another player getting caught with it when you can have some big guy from your posse/team carry it for you/your announcers.
wait what?
i just
signed up on the daily heralds website just so i could comment on how dumb an article that was
thanks for your logic second city
honestly, we should start a countdown to trade day. i’m so sick of hearing all these rumors.
I never was a fan of mid-season trades
I know it‘s part of just about every sport, but it’s institutionalized cheating to me. Why should a team be able to decide mid-season that "Oops, we fucked up. Let’s cannibalize another team that’s (typically) having a shitty year." Once one contender makes a big move it often forces other teams to follow suit in order to win this year, and too often at the expense of the team’s future.
I have no problem with a team bringing up players from their own developmental teams but other than that, what’s wrong with the concept of finishing the season with the team you started? Why solve cap issues this year instead of dealing with them in the offseason? It seems to me like an annual "get out of jail free" card that enables GMs to make and correct reckless decisions.
As a fan I feel a connection with the team that I watch day in and day out, even with its "flaws". No team is perfect. To see players that I cheer for, or even tease, replaced by a "rental" dilutes the whole experience for me. Maybe it’s my personal pipe dream that this practice will change and probably many will disagree with my opinion, but seeing that everyone is bitching about outlandish trade rumors, I’m curious to hear what others think. Hey, at least it would put an end to the issue of people posting “Trade (insert name of whatever player who had a subpar game here)!”
Sorry! I guess I had a bit of a rant building up inside me reading all of this trade gobbledygook.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 8, 2010 5:08 PM CST reply actions
combating gobbleygook with gobbleygook?
You make it seem like no one has a choice in the matter, but trades are a two way street. Mid-season and off season trades help struggling teams rebuild. Look at Atlanta, they were going to lose Kovalchuk and get nothing in return. If teams want to mortgage part of their future for a rental player and things don’t work out, they are only cheating themselves.
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
I agree that teams have a choice in the matter
but it does often add pressure to make some “improvements” before the playoffs.
It’s currently completely legal and accepted so why wouldn’t a team take advantage of the rules? My point was that I would prefer if mid-season trading didn’t exist.
Regarding situations like Kovalchuk, for me it goes back to my comment about GMs not keeping their house in order. They should’ve taken care of that in the offseason – but again, mid-season trading is legal, so why would they? That argument become an endless circle.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 8, 2010 5:54 PM CST up reply actions
How's that Kovalchuk experiment going?
They just lost again to Philadelphia 3-2 after leading 2-0 and are now 1-3-0 with him. If it wasn’t for the Leafs vomitting all over themselves late in the 3rd Friday, the Devils could easily be 0-4 since the deal.
Sometimes these deals don’t work and this might be one of them just like Calgary with Jokinen last season.
"Negative energy is better than no energy at all"- "Iron" Mike Keenan
Speaking of the Devils loss tonight...
They also lost Anssi Salmela to this vicious hit from Jeff Carter. Keep in mind it was a clean hockey hit gone wrong, but oh my.
"Negative energy is better than no energy at all"- "Iron" Mike Keenan
What is this, Russia?
It’s the free enterprise system at work in professional sports you commie pinko.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Free enterprise?? That's why there's a cap, right?
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 8, 2010 6:13 PM CST up reply actions
Almost iron(curtain)ic - Doh!
So what you’re saying is that stuff like anti-trust laws, business subsidies, bank bail-outs, stock trading halts, social security, graduated income tax, minimum wage, labor unions, public schooling, salary caps, and by association, mid-season trading, might actually be better examples of Marxism? And that most of them are literally listed under the ten planks of the Communist Manifesto? Poppycock, I say!
Okay, maybe you didn’t say that, but you might have meant to…
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 8, 2010 9:12 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Viva la revolucion!
Just because your friend says she saw me in the club with some other bitches,
sitting in V.I.P,
Smoking, and drinking, and kicking it.
I see what you're saying
and it definitely sucks when a player who’s well-liked gets traded away, but I think something has to be said for good players who languish on bad teams — it’s good for them to be able to go to a contender instead of being wasted talent.
I don’t think it’s a perfect (or necessarily even a good) system but I’m not sure how you’d do it better. Also, a lot of GMs mess up their teams with trades… maybe that’s still considered cheating but not a good kind.
Sharpie for 2011?
But hey, can we automatically assume that Shooter’s coming back next year? I don’t want to say the sky is falling, but will Bowman be able to fit him under the cap? In the meantime, enjoy the ride!
"It's a great day for hockey!" -Badger Bob Johnson
by Madhouse IN Madison on Feb 8, 2010 5:11 PM CST reply actions
Sharp is signed @ 3.9 mil thru 2012. Doesn’t mean he won’t be traded after this season. It was good to see him back with Daydream Nation again.
Competitive violence, that's why you're here!
Thanks. I totally blanked on that. And you’re right, Shooter with Tazer and Kane is amazing.
"It's a great day for hockey!" -Badger Bob Johnson
by Madhouse IN Madison on Feb 9, 2010 8:05 AM CST up reply actions
Out of all of these rumors
the only one I like is Versteeg and Barker for Meszaros. As for goalies, there are no upgrades available. In my feeble little mind, Montreal is fed up with Price and I wouldn’t mind seeing him come here for Huet. I know that won’t happen but a guy can dream right?
Competitive violence, that's why you're here!
So that would give us our 3rd
Montreal cast-off golatender ?
by Bonvie5ForFighting on Feb 9, 2010 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
Not too much of a surprise
considering the other goalie’s play against the Stars this year. Hopefully Niemi gets through this back to back.
Competitive violence, that's why you're here!
Trade Buff for Ruutu (Tuomo)? This rumor is just now starting. Right now.
Then we could have a Ruutu – Versteeg – Eager line
Can you imagine what that line could do?
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
Actually they meant Christian Ruutu
We miss his blond locks
by Bonvie5ForFighting on Feb 9, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
The perception of a goaltending issue
Makes my sack hurt. Glad it’s not just me. It’s actually ruining how I watch the games. Cause every goal that’s given up I have to analyze whether it was a good goal to give up or not. That way I have an argument when I run into a meatball.
Then I think to myself… there’s no such think as a good goal against!
These meatball fans that call the Score and show up here need to go away, or need to be learned about what hockey is and that every goal that is given up isn’t always the goalies fault. (run on sentence) It’s an overly simplistic view of hockey, much like what Rick Morrissey +wrote the other day.
And shame on Brian Hanley. He should know better, but what did I hear on Thursday morning….. Huet won’t win the cup and goaltending is bad. Huet had no chance on any of those goals… watch the games if you want to talk about it…douche….
Tim Thomas
I am really embarressed but I was talking to a Bruins fan at the bar. I thought Thomas was really young….. I’m dumb.
For sure...
Loud and proud….
She set me straight though…. I wasn’t wankerish? enough to argue with here cause she was a woman. I took the info and learned me something…..
I would love to see us land Cam Ward but...
The cost would be too dear, even if we got Carolina stoned on “shrooms” during negotiations
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
It's a waste of time to even talk about it
besides he’s been hurt a lot this year. He’s no good when he’s not playing. It would actually be a loss
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
You should be embarrased for talking to a Bruins fan
who gives a shit about their mediocre goalie
by Bonvie5ForFighting on Feb 9, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
Me too....
I would’ve lost a lot of money on the who’s older Tim Thomas or Cam Ward bet… God I suck.
"Kopecky excited to be on new line with Hossa"
http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/blackhawks
Latest entry on Jesse Rodgers Blog. If this sticks, I will refer to this as the Bossa-Nova line. (Bossa for Bolland / HossaNo va means it doesn’t go in Spanish for Kopecky)
Competitive violence, that's why you're here!
Kopecky
should be fucking excited someone actually pays him to play hockey.
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2010 Troll Collector
SCH's Resident Mom
by Trixietrx on Feb 8, 2010 6:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Instead of the "other thing" he does for money?
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
I just posted that those two have a living arrangement
But it got esploded I guess.
Chicagoan in the Lou.
Hey, where'd that go?
your post was tremendously tremendous.
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2010 Troll Collector
SCH's Resident Mom
another angle
Let’s say that we do trade for an old goalie (ie, Turko, Roloson). Many think that a trade for one of these goalies would mean that Niemi would be going in the trade. Where does this leave us for the future? Niemi is our best young goalie, and in an ideal scenario, he either plays well enough to steal the job from Huet (during this year or one of the next two) or when Huet’s contract is up, Niemi takes the job and runs with it.
I understand that we haven’t seen enough of Antti to annoint him the starter of the future, but he seems to be the closest thing we’ve got. If we end up with two aging goalies for the next year or two, we may end up screwing ourselves when Kane, Toews, etc are in their prime.
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
but what about Crawford?!?
and yes, that was sarcasm.
by blackhawkeyes on Feb 8, 2010 6:47 PM CST up reply actions
What about Crawford?
No seriously, I know very little about what he’s done the past season or two.
Tremendously tremendous!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Feb 8, 2010 8:19 PM CST up reply actions
other than the handful of Hawks games in 07-08 he hasn't done much.
He’s been fine in Rockford, but he definiety hasn’t lived up to the Hawks expectations. He lost the backup job to Niemi at the start of the season, and even when Niemi had the flu last week Fallon was called up instead. I don’t really have an issue with him, I was just mostly noting how at one point he was supposed to be Khabi’s next in line and instead everyone else is cutting in front.
by blackhawkeyes on Feb 8, 2010 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
I was under the impression that when Niemi had the flu, they didn’t want to bring up Crawford cos of the money he makes and that he would have to clear some sort of waivers in order to be called up or something like that. I dunno, I’m just sort of parroting what I heard in passing during the pregame the first game Niemi missed.
Tremendously tremendous!
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Feb 9, 2010 3:48 AM CST up reply actions
That's about right
Plus, I heard that Crawford was starting in Rockford, and Fallon was going to sit on the bench no matter which team he suited up for.
Alas, poor Crawford...
I once had such high hopes for him…
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
New thought
…playoff tandem.
Several comments recently have alluded to Niemi’s success being due to his freshness, like a rookie pitcher enjoying success his first time through the league.
If there is anything to this, maybe the Hawks don’t overexpose Niemi the rest of the year. If he can win 1 game in each playoff round, the Hawks can advance with just average goaltending otherwise, which seems like a reachable bar.
When Washington went with Varlomov over Theodore after Jose sucked early in last year’s playoffs, the guy was amazing…for a while. But the Pens eventually figured him out.
Goalies
are always going to end up exposed, and yea he is new but he’s been around. It’s not like he is some 18 year old outta Grande Prairie.
Playoff series are a whole ‘nother animal, goalies are always going to get figured out, it’s just a matter of their skill and athleticism, which Niemi possess. When they throw around the phrase of “______ has been solved” it just means they know what to do to beat them, but they still have to be able to get the opportunities to do so.
Anyone catch those splits against the Blues on Saturday?…the kid can play.
BOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!
Totally agree with where you're going with this
I have absolutely no problem with the Hawks playing a tandem arrangement during the playoffs. I disagree that they need to keep Niemi from being overexposed though. In reality, he’s talented but needs more work.
Q has been playing Huet and Niemi about 2 starts to 1 respectively all season. I have no reason to believe he won’t continue that in the playoff. One of them would have to really catch fire to see otherwise.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 9, 2010 11:37 AM CST up reply actions
Not sure...
…my gut says Niemi isn’t as good as his (small sample size) numbers to date suggest, and I offered a theory as to why.
His performance this year (which I would definitely take more of) has been despite getting only occassional starts, so I’m not sure he “needs more work” to perform.
Having said that, the guys may actually split more like 50/50 after the break, because of the compressed schedule (21 games in 41 days for the Hawks.) In fact, the scheduling seems like a bit of luck for the Hawks, who can win half the time regardless of thier goaltending, compared to teams that rely on one goalie.
Send Skille to Wolves
for Chelios.
He’s old
He has cup experience
Heritage night about due
He lives with his mother and is already in Chicago. He may even be drunk.
My jersey would be usable again (other than goalie practice for my kid)
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
Hey now, what's wrong with us old guys?
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
Nothing
As we discussed a while back, I am considered middle aged by this blog. I still say 43 is not middle aged, but I really don’t care.
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
43 is not middle aged...
You’re just a pup. Live it though… the wheels (start to) fall off in 10 years.
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
whoops...
I meant to say “live it up though”…
"My Father's name is Jack, and my mother's name is Daniels..."
We would still need a designated driver...
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
by ccm on Feb 9, 2010 5:16 AM CST up reply actions
Since it looks like we can trade for anybody (for pretty much any reason). Hell I'll add my idea for 'Hawks trades
Here are my Proposals
Barker and Kopechky for Rafalski and Zetterberg
Bickell and Dowell for Ovechkin, Semin, and Green
Skille, Crawford, and a MP3 of a Real Hockey Goal Horn Sound for Thorton, Heatley and Nabakov
Bag of Pucks for Brodeur
All Problems Solved
If it works don't go and F*** it up!
"SQUIRREL"
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Feb 8, 2010 8:07 PM CST reply actions
I'll take Thorton and Nabakov
But I don’t want Heatley near Kane or Toews, lest one of them decide to go for a ride with Dany…
Chicagoan in the Lou.
Oh great
now we’ve got three goalies to worry about
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 8, 2010 9:32 PM CST up reply actions
thorton
i realize this is a joke, but why on earth would we ever want thorton. he’s such a shrinking violet when crunch time comes. i would never want him on my team. ever.
I would like to nominate you as next GM of the Wings.
Just because your friend says she saw me in the club with some other bitches,
sitting in V.I.P,
Smoking, and drinking, and kicking it.
Short answer - yes.
Long answer – Joe Thornton is one of the best in the game. Saying you wouldn’t want him on your team because of the Sharks playoff performances (he has lead the team in points each of the last two postseasons) is about as ridiculous as those claiming they wouldn’t want A-rod because of his initial post-season troubles.
Eventually, talent will triumph.
Just because your friend says she saw me in the club with some other bitches,
sitting in V.I.P,
Smoking, and drinking, and kicking it.
agree to disagree
i realize that thorton is a great talent and his ability to find people in space while threading it through all the legs/sticks/bodies can be something to behold. that being said i have a feeling we’re going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
i wouldn’t want him on my team.
my feelings on thorton don’t just cover his playoff performance, they cover the last two seasons as a whole. his ability to disappear in games is something that would infuriate me as a fan. it seems to me at least, that if you have a couple of big bodies that can take away the half boards from him, it takes him off his game and out of the game as a whole. he refuses to adjust and try things like going to the net, shooting or paying the price to make the assist. the tighter checking the game or series, the more content he is to fade into the background.
if that makes me the future gm of detroit than that is unfortunate because i hate the wings.
"if that makes me the future gm of detroit than that is unfortunate because i hate the wings"
That would be perfect, you could destroy them from the inside out, like a secret agent or a spy.
wait what?
secret agent
i always wondered why this didn’t happen in sports. i guess contracts and such make it difficult.
about the closest is when the blues traded tkachuck a couple of years ago and then resigned him in the summer.
Disappeared into the background
while leading his team in points.
Agree to disagree as well.
Just because your friend says she saw me in the club with some other bitches,
sitting in V.I.P,
Smoking, and drinking, and kicking it.
points
2007-2008 playoff points
calgary, 7 games, 7 points (series win)
dallay, 6 games, 3 points (series loss)
2008-2009 playoff points
anahiem, 6 games, 5 points (3 in one game) (series loss)
by my count, in the last two series losses, if you take out game 5 against anahiem, he’s had 5 points in 11 games and his team has gone 3-8 in those games.
i was at that game 5 against anahiem at the tank. he played great and the rush in ot he had two shots and controlled the rebound around the net and got it in front for marleu to cram it home.
game 6 was more the indictment since, after fighting getzlaf off the opening draw, he disappeared for the remainder of the game. a game his team had to have.
game 5 teases what he could be, game 6 is too often what he is.
just my take.
If Joe Thornton joined the blackhawks
I would not be upset.
That he has not yet had a completely dominant playoff performance is no indicator that he will not in the future (noting this despite the fact he’s done more than anyone else on the team).
I tend to disagree with those who extrapolate all these character traits into small sample sizes. So he had a bad game in game 6 after a great game 5.
I’ll still take his talent when betting on who will produce in the 2010 playoffs.
Just because your friend says she saw me in the club with some other bitches,
sitting in V.I.P,
Smoking, and drinking, and kicking it.
we'd also need an industrial trash compactor
or maybe a car crusher … to fit all those guys into our cap space.
we can’t even let Skille or Bickell stay over night when they get call ups, fer cryin out loud
by krome on Feb 9, 2010 5:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
coming from someone
who studied criminal justice, thanks for this:
Would he be the trigger man on the second unit? Great, so we can watch shots get blocked or rocket off the glass in a pattern only a blood-splatter expert would love.
Also, each of these rumors makes less sense than the one that precedes it. I honestly don’t understand how we’re expected to swallow this tripe.
Now as a special treat courtesy of our friends at the Meat Council, please help yourself to this tripe.
by Andrew Cieslak on Feb 8, 2010 9:41 PM CST up reply actions
Don’t let the name throw you Jimmy. It’s not really a floor, it’s more of a steel grating that allows material to sluice through so it can be collected and exported.
(I looked it up so I got the quote exact)
by ChargingMajor on Feb 9, 2010 8:57 AM CST up reply actions
I almost read the comments to this entry.
But then I realized they’d be full of dumbass and so I didn’t. I feel this was a wise choice.
In other news, I agree with pretty much everything you said. Wiz trade = banana boat. Goaltending “controversy” = pointless, stupid, bare-ass clown feet that smell of eau d’COMPLETE FAILURE, etc. Trades for Turco/Rolly/Toskala/whoeverthefuck = rumors and nothing more, until actual paper gets actually signed.
Until then, I don’t worry, and I enjoy watching our team whip ass at every available opportunity. Life is still good, and will be even beyond the trade deadline.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Feb 9, 2010 12:11 PM CST reply actions
So reading our comments was basically a waste of your time and beneath you
but you left us one of your own?!
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Feb 9, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
which wasted my time
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
by laaarmer on Feb 9, 2010 12:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Barker for Karpovtsev - Done deal
MIke Smith nods in approval
by Bonvie5ForFighting on Feb 9, 2010 1:20 PM CST reply actions
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