Like A Paper Tiger In The Sun: Caps 4 - Hawks 3 (OT)
by SamFels on Mar 14, 2010 3:26 PM CDT
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So, I've asked both Matt's here, but they're not sure either. I wanted to know if all of you wanted a really angry wrap. Because if you do, let me know in the comments, and I'll be happy to correct this and fake some anger for you . I can do that, being a professional writer and all. Because frankly, I'm not angry. Disappointed? Sure. But I'll try and persuade everyone to see the big picture here, and nothing other than Seabrook's World Tour of Bad makes me worry about April and May. Secondly, cast your mind back to last March. The Hawks stumbled for the first part then too, and had some niggling injuries and we all started to panic. They then ripped through the end of the month and April and you know where that story goes.
Today's game, started much to early, got off to a slightly interesting start when the man we all came to see got ejected. Did he deserve it? Most certainly. Do I think Ovechkin is a dirty player? No, I do not. Over exuberant for sure, and that occasionally lands him on the wrong side of the edge. I haven't scanned the comments, but I bet I would get short odds on some jackass proclaiming the Hawks will be better without Campbell. If 51 Phantom misses significant time, that's a real problem. The Hawks spent 50 minutes without two of the three d-men who transition them, who can push the play, and who make things happen in the offensive zone. That would lead to problems later. It will lead to bigger problems if Soupy isn't back soon. The Hawks need to constantly have someone on the ice who can get them going the other way, it's what their entire game is about. Here's hoping.
Oh, did I forget Toews's goal? I did, didn't I? Well, after another balls-up of a power play was abbreviated by a Ladd crosscheck, Hammer made a beautiful dish to Captain Marvel and he couldn't miss.
The Hawks power play continues to suck balls, and only scored on a 5-on-3 because the Caps were probably exhausted by then. Why they haven't figured out to switch the play from side to side to get the goalie moving is beyond me. Anyway, they were able to Forrest Gump another Toews goal for a 2-0 first lead.
In fact the first two periods were pretty ho-hum. I can only remember two, maybe three, tough saves Niemi had to make. The Caps looked like the team that played yesterday on the road. They looked for all the world a paper tiger. It looked better when Keith and Madden combined on a beautiful goal. Again, the Caps didn't look like they cared all that much.
But that's not the whole story, is it? Even the first five minutes of the 3rd looked pretty run of the mill. Then the walls caved in. Or did they? I didn't see either Hendry's or Fraser's penalty, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. But generally, high-sticking penalties boil down to nothing more than bad luck. Faced with a double minor and then a two-minute 5-on-3, the Caps still required two bounces to go their way. The first was a scramble in front where the puck was everywhere, and the second a rebound off the end boards after the Hawks had killed it all off. Sure, Bolland probably needs to have Backstrom's stick there.
The 3rd goal is the unacceptable one, where you're clearly just not concentrating, lose a battle on the boards and leave Eric Fehr all alone in the slot. After that, the Hawks looked the paper tiger out of gas. And why wouldn't they be? They played yesterday, down Hossa and Johnsson and losing Campbell. The 3rd kind of petered out, and 4-on-4 it was always going to be a struggle. Luckily, Seabrook managed to miss an open and net and then get walked by Backstrom for the winner. So at least we have that to bitch about.
To summarize, the game changed on bad luck and bad bounces. It wasn't a goalie issue. It wasn't massive defensive breakdowns. It wasn't a lack of scoring. I know the totals from the weekend look ugly, and maybe I'm guilty of drinking the Kool-Aid. But again, I didn't see anything this weekend that leads me to believe this team can't go where I want it to, and you do as well. And that's all that matters.
Observations
-Niemi was fine, just as Huet was yesterday. We were talking outside about this, but if Niemi is going to seize the playoff starting role from Huet, he's going to have to significantly outplay him. Today wouldn't be categorized as that.
-Versteeg was flying again, but every time he gets like this I'm just waiting for when he spills over the edge and reverts to country-stupid form that drives us all nuts.
-As perhaps his biggest fan, it pains me to say, but McClure is right about Dave Bolland. The Hawks need so much more from him, and he was invisible today, taking Sharp and Brouwer with him. This has got to change, and sharp-ish.
-Duncan Keith appears to be getting back to the play of earlier in the year, it's just a shame he's got a crash-test dummy for a partner right now.
-Hjalmarsson has an offensive game?
-I'm guessing this will send visiting Caps fans into an uproar, but I would welcome seeing this team in June again. They needed two penalties and some bounces, and a team down a man coming off a game yesterday before deciding to play. Maybe you can make the argument that they only needed one period, and maybe that's true. But I doubt it. Your size and depth is impressive, DC, but nothing that will have me quaking in the late-spring. Sorry.
PLAYER OF THE GAME
Didn't do much besides the goals, but how much more do we ask?
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Respectfully disagree
That Toews didn’t do much aside from the goals. He was skating well and moving the puck in the third period.
by Ghost Soldier on Mar 14, 2010 3:29 PM CDT reply actions
Today
We had the first pick in our season ticket pool and we skipped all the Red Wings games and picked this one first. Didn’t wait months on end to see Ovie come in and get ejected. Last year Cindy sits out when Pitt came to town and now Ovie plays ten minutes and leaves. Goddammit.
Was a long ride home today
" Lisa in this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!"
You are right about Campbell
However,
Q is and will be the downfall of this team. His lines, his demeanor, his handling of goalies……..
He’s cracking up.
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
?
The lines and the goaltending situation are probably legit but whats the problem with his demeanor?
" Lisa in this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!"
Below
He is the coach of this team is he not?
They have tanked for two games in a row have they not? and looked bad for the last month.
Yet their he sits with that stupid look on his face, allowing the player combination that was on the ice at the end be on the ice at the end of the game. They have Toews Madden and Bolland and neither of them is out there.
Now he is blaming the players for the loss – the high sticking penalties. The fastest way for a team to fall apart is for the blame game to start. He will lose the respect of his players. When that happens, it will be a spring and summer.
I think I am one of the most positive commenters on this site and I try not to be negative. This guy is melting down
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
Disagree
Im sorry I think this is way off base. What do you want him to do? Those high sticking penalties (especially Colin’s) killed the Hawks.
Have you ever played the game? When your a kid and you take stupid penalties that cost you goals your coach will generally give you shit for it because its the plain obvious truth.
The lines? He was working without Hossa and Eager today. He was dealing with the cards he was handed today.
" Lisa in this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!"
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In fact the more I think about it if Q was not calling out players for taking stupid penalties that cost your team games that would be worse. Lovie Smith territory.
" Lisa in this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!"
If he was saying thew were not penalties than he is worse off than I thought.
What he is saying is the those players cost us the game. What he should say is WE. He’s losing these guys. Yes they are grown men and professionls. They can’t stand him and it’s showing.
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
huh
There is absolutly no evidence any of that is true. Also I dont believe Q was saying those were not penalties.
" Lisa in this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!"
You're right laaarmer
you are one of the most positive and knowledgeable posters on here. You actually beat Sam to calling out that Campbell would be a HUGE loss for this team. Your insights often throw me off in in a good way (in the “I never looked at it like that” way). But your “Yet there he sits with that stupid look on his face” comment harkens back to the “I hate the way Huet smiles when he gets scored on” comments from the mouthbreathers (no Ghost Soldier, this isn’t pointed at you, we’ve had a lot of this on this site, that why it hit a nerve).
Maybe you’re just understandably pissed, but isn’t it possible that he couldn’t get a line change in time? He’s around these players infinitely more than us. Maybe he knows what needs to be said more than us to motivate this team? I’ve never noticed Q playing the name-calling game in the media prior to this, so maybe it’s about time? I know as a Bear’s fan that I wanna puke listening to Lovie dance around topics. IMO it’s refreshing to hear Q call a spade a spade, whether or not he’s partially to blame. He’s the coach of a young team, again IMO he would lose more respect and the confidence of the players if he walked around apologizing all the time, which would in turn cause them to question yet another aspect of their game – their leadership.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 14, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I still think he's a freaking idiot
However I hope you all are right.
I hope he gets the shit together.
Regarding Campbell. Not replaceable by anybody on this team or in Rockford. It sucks.
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
but unfortunately
he just was. Sucks, sucks, sucks. Boyton? Ugh
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 14, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Sopel needs to sit after that PHI game
Keith Seabs
Johnson Hammer
Hendry Boynton
Let’s see how they do.
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
Yeah I play
He was playing with the cards he had. He had Toews, Madden, and Bolland and instead allowed Brouwer and Buff out there.
I also guarantee you that yesterday, Kane was called off the ice by one of these coaches.
He is losing it. Let’s hope he gets his shit together.
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
Disagree
I just don’t believe that anything other than the play on the ice has a significant impact on the success of a team. The coach is there to motivate, sure… but if he’s angry or sad or constipated or has the sniffles, the team still plays. Conversely, if you lose a major player (Hossa or Campbell) the success of a team is dependent. I don’t buy into curses, moral victories, confidence, or ‘demeanor’. It is what it is. Reality is that everything boils down to talent and play on the ice.
by Ghost Soldier on Mar 14, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Although I question laarmer's "total" position on Q today
I do believe a large part of his point is that the coach is responsible for what exactly you just said “everything boils down to talent and play on the ice.” Q is responsible for having the right talent to play on the ice for whatever the game situation.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 14, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
You make some good points
but I think calling out the bad high sticking penalties is right. He’s called out the goalies, why not the forwards?
But I think the team is not listening to him as much as they used to. Time outs used to result in a more significant change in play and we haven’t seen that lately.
by Katherine215 on Mar 14, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
About the lines
I think Sam may have said it a long time ago but it has to turn a team against you when except for about 4 guys if you aren’t playing balls out the way Q want’s you to your going to get shifted in lines around repeatedly and mostly seemingly on hunches. Can someone explain to me why Q won’t hardly change his D pairings but the forwards it’s a grab bag,he refuses to set lines and let them get familiar to the point of complete confidence. I just wish Q would FUCKING decide now his playoff lines and let them play together the rest of the season. I still think this team can get it going into the playoffs and make us proud but Q has to be a leader now.
Get someone in there to fix the powerplay, someone who hasn’t been working on it lately because their work isn’t working but there has to be someone who can come in and shine the light upon them.
Q's Doing Fine
It’s not his fault neither goalie can come up with a solid 5 games in a row. What should he do, guess on one and let then play good or bad until the playoffs and then say OOPS, got the wrong one?
And lines….I guess Hossa coming in the middle of the season, Bolland coming back right before the Olympics, Toews having a concussion, Burrish coming back a few games ago doesn’t allow much stability on the lines. Sharp having to center while Bolland is out. Sharp playing well for a bit with TK and then going back to his" I’ll just float around Kaner and you hit my stick while I keep it on the ice pointed at the goal" playing style doesn’t help. Buff showing a glimpse or 2 here and there (OT Rangers) and then not giving a crap….what line do you put him on? Kopecky playing pretty good in Olympics, getting a chance and shitting all over himself until he’s in the pressbox don’t help. Kaner unable to play left wing with Toews and Hossa. Verstig scoring 2 assists and not dumping the puck in 15 games? Comon….tell me the lines you’d have at the start of the season that wouldn’t have changed? At least on D they have been somewhat stable, so he can keep the pairings. And would I think Q is a dumbass for putting Seabs in the pressbox or maybe 3rd pairing right now (well before the Campbell injury anyway). hell no.. I think Q has much more reson to be pissed at some of his players inconsistencies and inability to take opportunities he gave them, than they have of being pissed at him. I’m tired of the Lovie Dovie style of coaching. THAT ruins players far sooner than some coaching toughness. Stand up, play consistently when given the opportunity and take the job so there’s no doubt you’re a number 1 or 2 line member and Q will give it to you. Until then, I’m glad he tries and lights fires under some asses……hope Seabs is next.
by husler777 on Mar 14, 2010 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can't say that Q is great or the room is hunky dory
but I haven’t seen a demeanor problem (I was scratching my head at some of the OT forward pairings too).
One of the hardest things to do coaching is to always look (relatively) calm and always in control. Q does that. Calling out dumb penalties or such is sometimes necessary – we don’t know the pulse of the locker room to judge this one).
I thought Niemi looked quite good. No softies, a couple of exceptioanl saves. So here we are with a weekend with no goalie issues – and 2 irritating loses.
by krome on Mar 14, 2010 9:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
"So here we are with a weekend with no goalie issues – and 2 irritating loses."
Isn’t it ironic?
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 14, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah but still
if this is the week the Hawks goal tending turned around, that’s a lot of good news if it continues. Just hate the Soupy news if true.
Sorry if amongst the 188 comments this has been said, but...
my biggest qualm with Q was rolling all Four lines during the 5:00 minute major…
by WirtzGMnomore on Mar 15, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I won't even address that
I don’t deal in the abstract. Claiming ‘demeanor’ and ‘confidence’ has any bearing on the success of a team is copping out. Work with reality- specific plays, etc.
by Ghost Soldier on Mar 14, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
At least
he wasn’t talking about Jay Cutler’s pout Huet’s grin…
In all seriousness, I think these things are a way to put things like “intangibles” and the “eye test” into words. I can see what he’s getting at, because it does seem like this team is having a bit of a mental hiccup (I wouldn’t call it a “lapse” yet). Nothing that can’t be fixed, but if that Calgary game had happened right now, just think how pumped we would be for the playoffs instead of worrying about falling celestial regions.
fwiw
Q referred to the two high-sticking penalties as “careless” in the post-game. Also seemed to indicate Campbell won’t be making the trip to the left coast.
tremendously tremendous
Niemi
Left of of the recap was the batshit crazy Niemi made with the right pad in the second period. Happened right in front of me and it was AWESOME.
" Lisa in this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!"
Mentioned elsewhere
but Soupy is going to “be out for a bit” and is not making the trip :( and Johnsson and Hossa are day to day with the always painful upper body injury.
hossas middle body is made of titanium
ive heard its for the ladies…
"The roar from the crowd really fired me up," Burish said. "In warmups there were a lot of signs. One said 'Burish, my grandma is pregnant.' I don't know what that means. I skated by it and said, 'it's not mine.' "
by jesus christos on Mar 14, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
So if Kesler (everyone knows I love me some Kesler)
went down with a “middle body injury” would that be listed as “erectile dysfunction”?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 14, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
With Kesler, it’s “cramps.”
Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.
by russellguldin on Mar 14, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess I should have said
“any kind of injury”
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 14, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
its a dark day
when a hockey player no longer has an active stick
"The roar from the crowd really fired me up," Burish said. "In warmups there were a lot of signs. One said 'Burish, my grandma is pregnant.' I don't know what that means. I skated by it and said, 'it's not mine.' "
by jesus christos on Mar 14, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Angry? No, but
I think that some people will start to feel like we’re trying to paint things as optimistic one too many times. Sure, the Hawks are playing badly, but everybody wants them to be playing at their peak, and while no team can keep that revved up through the entire regular season (heck, I wouldn’t want them to — D2K getting 28 minutes a game is NOT a good thing), I bet a lot of people are angry that our beloved men in red couldn’t do what we’ve done in the past and answer what was arguably definitely a dirty play with skilled, disciplined play and dominate the rest of the game.
We were on the right track; it just all came off the rails with that double minor and left us all feeling really blah.
I'm diappointed, but not too worried - yet
If we were chasing points, then yes, I would be angry. But I didn’t see any new problems arise this weekend – aside from the injuries – I actually am quite content that the goaltending looked sharp and the team played rather well for the most part of both games. I believe (hope?) we wouldn’t see this kind of meltdown in a playoff situation, but the pattern has repeated itself out a few too many times since the epic Minnesota collapse that one more straw WILL definitely break the camel’s back and I will switch over to majorly concerned.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 14, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
You can always cite last year as a reason not to be worried yet. And it’s not like we’ve been terrible, and our record bears that out.
But yeah, I really wish we could’ve gotten a couple victories for our goalies — they deserved to win the last two games for sure.
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"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
His name ryhmes with puff...like "Puff the magic dragon..
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
opppss there is no pictures
…because I didn’t see him today play hockey
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
I'd like the minute of my life back
that I just lost reading those posts.
by Katherine215 on Mar 14, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Seabs
..staple his ass to the bench till he sprouts…not worried about goaltending at all but d is iffy…
by barclay donaldson on Mar 14, 2010 4:47 PM CDT reply actions
Die hard Hawks fan I am
I’ve watched every game but a handful,like maybe four or five that i didn’t watch,this year…I live in Europe,so most of the games are like at 1 or 2 am start times,so i wait till late into the night to watch a game…obviously it helps that currently i am unemployed so i dont have to wake up in the morning….anyways as a self proclaimed DIE HARD Hawks fan,i have started to lose it….The goalies have been fine the last couple of games,but the rest of this team hasnt…..bad decisions blown leads etc….donno who to blame,some people say Q some say the D etc….i have pretty much lost faith in the Hawks goin all the way this year,this funk has been goin on too long,dont get me wrong,i hope i am wrong,butits just really hard to believe right now that this team will pull through….i would just like a glimmer of hope,but i cant see it right now
"i would just like a glimmer of hope"
see: Blackhawks, Chicago 2008-09
If you go back and look at the comments about the same time last year, many of the concerns were identical. Glimmer?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 14, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
That was last season
Everyone needs to stop comparing this season’s team to last season’s. 2 different teams in 2 different situations.
If the ‘Hawks lost in the 1st round nobody would’ve said a thing as it was all about ‘Making the Playoffs’, but this season is totally different in that it’s ‘Cup or Bust’. Maybe the season long pressure is starting to get to them? Nobody seems to know the answer but this team isn’t going anywhere based upon their performances since the beginning of the calendar year.
"The Golden Goal! And Canada has - once in a lifetime - Olympic Gold!"
Congratulations to The Golden Boys- Toews, Seabrook, and Keith- for delivering the GOLD to CANADA.
yeah
whatevs. back when they were scoring 5 goals a night, i said i didn’t care if they bombed out in the first round, so long as i got to see some entertaining hockey during the season. i still feel that way. i honestly don’t care about a championship.
Why... Why are you never funny?
Yeah i know
and i keep telling myself that,but i dont know,especially now with Soupy out for the rest of the season…..still in shock over the weekends 2 losses,and now a game west coast road trip….ouch
how about...
this team has 94 pts. is probably still on pace to come close to or break the franchise single-season pt. total, and they haven’t hit April yet so there’s time for the rust and kinks in the armor to be worked out.
In 2005,
the Sox came within a hair of blowing a huge, huge lead and not making the playoffs. But they regrouped and did pretty well in the postseason.
How was your date?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 14, 2010 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Yours?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 15, 2010 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Happy Birthday then
when is your estimated date to return to the States? I hear the demand for “crisis intervention specialists” skyrocketed today in Chicago. The only requirement is the ability to repeat “Step away from the ledge” in a semi-convincing manner.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 15, 2010 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions
i get back thursday
but i’m headed straight to portland for a friend’s wedding, so i’ll be back in chicagoland from the 23rd. it’ll be really nice to see games on a TV!
i’m not sure i’m qualified for that position; “semi-convincing” could be hard right now.
Why... Why are you never funny?
I don't know how people watch online threads
and still manage to comment in the GDT’s. I couldn’t do it.
Painting’s done. Blue-gray = Battleship gray??
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 15, 2010 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought that was yesterday
Happy Birthday! How’s middle age feeling?
by Katherine215 on Mar 15, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
most people want to go to heaven, but not right now
for the time being, I find that getting old – while it does suck – is still better than the alternative.
Off Topic
Chicago Blackhawks star Patrick Kane threw himself at the Black Eyed Peas at Chelsea lounge Pink the other night. According to a spy, Kane, who just helped the USA Olympic hockey team win silver in Vancouver, strolled in wearing his Team USA jacket and silver medal. Upon seeing the Peas, an excited Kane “stumbled into the table where they were sitting and fell right into the lap of will.i.am.” Kane was escorted to another table so he could stay to watch bandmates will.i.am, Taboo and apl.de.ap perform with rappers T-Pain and LMFAO.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/love_the_peas_iUpdcoe2p89ngvTvci7BWJ#ixzz0iBs2Y146
If your next comment is
that the Bears just won the Super Bowl, then I will officially know you are trapped in a wormhole and promptly find a rotary phone to call for help. But my “promptly” may be years for you, so hopefully I am fast enough to keep you from boarding that indestructible boat everyone keeps raving about. (and no, it’s not the “Cubs fail boat”, you apparently had better parents or geographical influence than I as a child)
Just giving you shit. Yes, he did that the weekend of the Rangers game in NY. Too funny thinking about the naive kid not only wearing his jacket – but his medal – to a club and then making a fool of himself. Way to represent, Kaner! Gotta love him.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 14, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Isles, not Rangers
If people in NYC see your comment, you’ll cause a riot.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 14, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
and that’s a bad thing how?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 14, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't get to see the 3rd period...
but are the play-by-play stats lying? The Hawks only had ONE shot in the 3rd, and it came with 2 seconds left?
WTF was going on?
VERSTEEG!
They shot AT the goal
but none of them registered as shots because they were so far off the mark.
"Another successful interaction with a man!" - Liz Lemon
by Sportsgal on Mar 14, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Amen sister!
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n. 1. An inference or conclusion that does not follow from the premises or
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2. A statement that does not follow logically from what preceded it.
yep the 'Hawks threw everything they could at the net
problem was everything missed and hit the boards……including Brian…..
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
They didn't deserve more than 1 SOG in the third.
Washington took it to them in the third, and I think some of the hitting from the first two periods finally paid some dividends for them. The Hawks looked tired in that third, understandably so as noted in the game recap.
I was amazed at how the Toews line cycled for a shift in the third (when most of the Hawks were looking slow and lethargic) and managed to not get 1 SOG after wheeling and dealing the puck amongst themselves.
The odd thing is if Seabrook hits that wide open net in OT, all is forgiven and most Hawks fans would probably feel a lot better.
Defense, not "big" and strong to begin with, is run into the ground
Opponents are going at the Blackhawks offensively with the hard pressing style, especially late in the game. The good teams are also smart enough to know that if you can beat on Keith, Campbell and Hjalmarsson throughout the game then they are wilted by the end of the game. Seabrook and the disappointing Johnsson need to step up and take more of the physical punishing heat. They just do.
Dave Bolland? I’m glad others are seeing what I’ve been seeing. He’s done very little since coming back from the injury. Maybe it’s just one of those things were he needs a full offseason to get back into the swing of things. Regardless, Coach Q needs to act accordingly and limit his playing time. And think about not suiting him up for for some games.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Disagree
that “not suiting” Bolland or playing him less will get the rust out. This is about prepping for the playoffs at this point of the season considering our position in the standings. Johnsson wasn’t even in the game today and played quite well the 2 games prior to that, but beat the drum…
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 14, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Johnsson has not been as advertised
Very inconsistent to say the least. And you can tell Coach Q has eroding faith in putting him out there during critical moments. His fundamental inability to handle a pass is appalling. And he coughs up the puck way too much when he otherwise looks lost on where he should be positionally speaking. Suffice to say he needs to get his game together in a hurry.
Bolland is a liability out there right now. Its one thing to say the Hawks need him to be out there to play himself into shape in time for the playoffs. I’m not sure I agree with that. Any time a hockey player has a major back issue then it is going to take the passage of time to get back into playing shape. Bolland doesn’t look good out there at all, and I’m past the point where I think it is rust. What he needs is more physical recovery time and a full offseason.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Wow
are you then implying that one possibility is the Hawks literally replace Bolland? (seriously asking)
I’m not too worried about Johnsson yet. New team and he’s played with multiple partners. His bad and good has balanced out pretty well IMO and he’s been good as of late.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 14, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Not replace Bolland
But stop playing Bolland to the degree he has been playing. He’s not been good, and again I don’t adhere to the belief that he is playing himself into shape in order to be wondrous come playoff time. He’s not remotely the same player before the back injury. He needs the passage of time to get back to what he was. Hopefully get back to what he was that is.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Point taken
Back injuries are often career lasting injuries
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 14, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Regarding Bolland
“replace” as in the sense that he may be playing injured again
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 14, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
The only replacing of Bolland will happen in June
Until then he’ll be on the ice as he really is the only option after Toews as a scoring centre that can play both ways. Unless Quenneville goes to Versteeg in that situation which I don’t see happening.
If Bolland continues to struggle then the ’Hawks may be left with no option but to go to Versteeg centreing Hossa and Sharp. But as it stands now Bolland is the #2 guy until further notice.
"The Golden Goal! And Canada has - once in a lifetime - Olympic Gold!"
Congratulations to The Golden Boys- Toews, Seabrook, and Keith- for delivering the GOLD to CANADA.
The concept BLou suggested was
that he might be playing injured. Not suggesting the Hawks replace Bolland on the 2nd line unless he’s “unplayable.”
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 14, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Wouldn't Sharp centre (Canadian spelling for you hawks61!)
instead of Versteeg? If they were to go down that road anyway
by Katherine215 on Mar 14, 2010 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
wait, you're frustrated with johnsson? Why didn't you say so.......
oh, that’s right, you have………like 10 times.
He didn’t even play today, and the last couple games that he has played have been fine.
I thought the Johnsson Hendry pairing was solid in the vancouver game especially.
Now that Campbell will be out for at least a few games, we are really going to get the chance to see what Johnsson is made of. He is going to see a significant amount of minutes (including power play time) until Soup gets back.
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Don't look down Wads
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 14, 2010 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm, isn't there a problem
with suggesting that players get reduced playing time? At various points the past few days, people have suggested this about Versteeg, Buff, Seabrook, and now Bolland and Johnsson? What are we supposed to do, call up the Ice Hogs to play instead?
The Ice Hogs?
Don’t joke because then they {the haters} can point to the Columbus game where Bickell and Dowell contributed more than Versteeg and Bolland in that game with Versteeg only getting 1 shift in the final frame.
We’ll worry about the call-ups once September comes knocking on the door.
"The Golden Goal! And Canada has - once in a lifetime - Olympic Gold!"
Congratulations to The Golden Boys- Toews, Seabrook, and Keith- for delivering the GOLD to CANADA.
Is this team a legitimate Cup challenger this season?
Honesty compels me to say no. They will have a difficult time getting out of a second round playoff series. I’d have to say it will be Vancouver and San Jose vying for the West. Don’t get any delight in saying that.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
They're showing that they wilt under pressure
which is NOT an encouraging thing come playoff time. I just had a feeling that once Washington scored on the 5 on 3 that the Hswks were done. I had zero confidence that they’d be able to hold a one goal lead and, unfortunately, I was right.
by bluekoolaide on Mar 14, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
It all comes down to the Hawks defensive pressure
Job one for Coach Q and the staff is to identify a way to not let Keith, Campbell and Hammer whither. Teams are putting a lot of emphasis on wearing those three down so they have little left in the tank late.
I don’t know the solution. All I know is that if this trend continues into the playoffs then the Hawks are screwed. Remember that in last year’s playoffs that Keith was a shadow of his regular season self. The team had enough going on otherwise (obviouisly) to overcome in the Calgary and Vancouver series. But this year I’m really worried.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
If that's the problem, then Bowman should've worked harder
to add an impact defenseman at the deadline. I have no idea if one was even available but I’d feel a lot better about this team’s post season chances if we’d added somebody like Rob Niedermayer.
I think you’re right to be worried. More and more I’m starting to think the main problem. sure it would be nice if one of them would get hot and make up for teh defensive lapses but I don’t see that happening.
by bluekoolaide on Mar 14, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Stan Bowman needed to do better at the trade deadline
He just did. Surely he understood that this team has / had the potential for a viable Stanley Cup run and that adding a physical defenseman and a goalie is what he needed to get done. Look at the moves Washington made as an example? They pulled no punches in the moves they made.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
did washington really scare you that much today?
6 minutes of high sticking penalties and a couple bad bounces cost us this game, nothing more…….not worn-down defensemen, not the lack of a new goalie and/or a physical dman, not kim johnsson, and not stan bowman. People are assessing this game as if the hawks got smoked 5 to 1 and have an inferior roster to the caps………sorry kids, I just don’t see it.
Don’t get me wrong, yesterday and today were frustrating losses, but the Hawks played decent (not perfect) games, and came up just short.
Ok, the caps didn’t have ovechkin, but we didn’t have Hossa or Campbell, plus I’m fairly certain that sopel would’ve been benched in favor of Hendry had johnsson not been scratched due to injury.
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
by hackerar on Mar 14, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rob Niedermayer?
I’d rather have Scott Niedermayer thank-you very much.
The ‘Hawks didn’t need an impact defenceman at the deadline, what they needed was a defenceman that could play the PP. Stan didn’t get anyone in that regard (Schneider could’ve come cheap) and now he may pay for it if Campbell is out for an extended period of time.
"The Golden Goal! And Canada has - once in a lifetime - Olympic Gold!"
Congratulations to The Golden Boys- Toews, Seabrook, and Keith- for delivering the GOLD to CANADA.
Keith being dog-sick with the flu
didn’t have anything to do with his performance in the playoffs?
by Katherine215 on Mar 14, 2010 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
How could they possibly
be wilting under pressure? They excel when they’re pressured. They wilt when they feel comfortable.
That’s why they can get the leads. And then lose them.
by doubleohpsycho on Mar 14, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
They aren't playing solid hockey right now.........
doesn’t mean they aren’t going to have a nice playoff run.
Take a step back from the ledge, and if you’re going to stay on the ledge, at least change your post signature.
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
Ovie hit
I just read a statement from Ovie saying that he didn’t push Campbell that hard and that Campbell just fell. Did he not watch the replay? There was no “dive” by Campbell. He was clearly pushed hard into the boards. I don’t know why all of these people are sticking up for Ovie and making Campbell out to be the bad guy. Burnside on ESPN even had the nerve to say it was a horrible officiating call to give Ovie the misconduct and kick him out of the game. I think those guys are all drinking the wrong kool-aid.
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
You can clearly see Campbell’s left skate do a toe-pick. I’m not sure how much that contributed. Probably a little.
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by red army line on Mar 15, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
At first i thought it was a toe-pick too, but only in slow-mo….in real-time, the toe doesn’t actually pick, it just lifts up from its position when Ovie propels Campbell…i think if it picks, the skate juts up way faster and way higher…
by WirtzGMnomore on Mar 15, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
The Caps do not scare me.
The reason we lost this game was b/c of a couple of 4 minute high-sticking penalties that happened to get called @ roughly the same time. We skated with 5 defensemen for basically an entire game less than 24 hours after playing halfway across the country, 2 of which were Sopel and Hendry. Disappointing, yes, disheartening, no. Oh yeah, and that Horsa guy didn’t skate either.
The only thing that worries me about this loss is that Campbell is out for the foreseeable future.
Its the teams in the West to be worried about
Foolish to worry about Washington, New Jersey or Pittsburgh.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Oh Comon!!!
Am I the only one actually seeing some happiness in these 2 games? Cripes, most of the posts are sky is falling after this weekend.
1) Number 1 on the hit parade…maybe….just maybe…we don’t have a goalie problem. Both played like damn good goalies which I’m not sure anyone would have said that 1 week ago. That to me is THE biggest thing I saw this weekend.
2) Looking back to Friday….if someone said 2 points this weekend would be reasonable…who would have thought we definitely deserve more? Ok we got 1 but it’s not like we lucked into that 1. We outplayed the oppenents most of the games and could easily have gotten 3 or 4. 2.5 seconds and a 5 on 3 to the Capitals…meh…unfortunate…but now a second round exit??? Jeeezzzz..
3) Tell me if on Friday I said Hossa, Jonssen (sp?) and Campbell would be out vs the caps, Hendry would be out 4 minutes and for a 5 on 3 vs the Capitals late in the game Sopel, Seabs, Hammer and Keith would rotate on D after an 11:30 start and road game day before if you’d take 1 point? Now some post are saying we won’t even have home field for the FIRST playoff round???? OMG!!!!
How about we win the division going away. The goaltending keeps up like the last 2 games. Hossa and Campbell come back OK after getting a little rest, Seabs takes an Ex-Lax and shits his head out of his ass. Buff plays in the playoffs like he did last year. Our 4th line which rotates between Buff, Kopetsky, Eager, Fraser and Burrish, whoever cares and is playing best beats the other team’s 4th line and our D has some nice depth going into the playoffs. AND, now THIS part I admit is a stretch, the PP takes off it’s clown shoes. Raise your hand if you don’t think we can beat the Caps in the finals. I don’t think the last scenario is out of the question and we CAN kick ass if that happens.
Fuck this sky is falling stuff after playing damn well with great goaltending the last 2 games against 2 very good teams. LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!
You are the only one
that sees some happiness.
he's not the only one
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
Got that the Hawks were down Panda, and Campbell
They were tired from travel, and covering two down.
But so were the Caps, and they were down Ovie when they scored all their goals.
You can argue if the High Stick was a double minor, but you cannot take another penalty when killing one off.
For 45 minutes, the Hawks played to win, but the last 15 of regulation and in OT the Caps WANTED it more and took it, at least that is the way it looked to me.
I still think this is just a funk, but it has been a wile since a good string of dominating games, so could it be more? I’m thinking something is off with the team, chemistry , fundementals, I’m not sure. The Hawks must destroy temas at 5th seed and below, and beat 4th and above on a regular basis, and they have been doing niether since the begining of February, and it has only gotten worse since the break.
I’m not angry at the loss, pissed they lost another game they had won.
I’m still only concerned, not worried, but that is not too far off now.
If it works don't go and F*** it up!
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Mar 14, 2010 6:33 PM CDT reply actions
Caps did not Play and Travel Yesterday
They at least had a day of rest.
I understand all of that
And if the Caps had just flat out dominated, etc., then i might be inclined to feel that way but the bottom line is that we coughed up a three goal, third period lead at home. There’s just no way I can spin that into a positive, make an excuse, etc.
The Hawks choked today (like they did the day before).
by bluekoolaide on Mar 14, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
About this Finals proclamation
The regular season isn’t even over and yet some people are claiming either ‘sky is falling’ or SCF. It’s absurd!
Since the lockout there have been more #2-4 seeds win the Stanley Cup than any #1 seed (that was only Detroit in 2008). In fact those Wings are the ONLY top seed to make it to the Finals since the lockout so let’s not get too carried away with the obsession if {and given their play of recent a strong IF} the ‘Hawks make the Finals it won’t be the Capitals. It will probably be the Penguins or the Sabres.
Jose Thoedore isn’t leading any team past the 1st round let alone to the SCF. For more evidence just take a look at last season playoffs where he lasted just one game in the entire playoffs.
Ovechkin isn’t Crosby and it’s not even close just look at the two’s resume come playoff time. One is clutch and has a Stanley Cup ring, the other disappears and fades into oblivion.
Their defence is suspect. Let’s face it no opposing player is going to be afraid of Green, Corvo, Poti, Morrisson, Jurcina, and Carlson (WJHC hero). No offence but a kid that just arrived from the World Juniors isn’t going to stop Crosby or Gaborik.
The playoffs are a different ball-game altogether and I don’t see the Capitals making it to the Finals. Not by a longshot.
"The Golden Goal! And Canada has - once in a lifetime - Olympic Gold!"
Congratulations to The Golden Boys- Toews, Seabrook, and Keith- for delivering the GOLD to CANADA.
The playoffs are a different ball-game altogether and I don’t see the Capitals making it to the Finals. Not by a longshot.
I really think that’s overdone, a lot. #1 seeds win it all more frequently than any other seed (although at that 30%).
And please, Jose Theodore has actually WON a playoff series. Your argument doesn’t hold. Let’s just wait until April/May/June and see, okay?
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by red army line on Mar 15, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
We shall see
My main point is that while disappointing, this weekend had some positives (goalie play especially) and there is no need for change everything, sky is falling we’re done now depression. Plenty of good Hawks hockey coming methinks!
Oh man
If that’s true I just feel awful for Campbell. Poor Soupy.
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Wow
where ballyb? I’m worried
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 14, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
OMG
This sucks if true. For Campbell… for all of us. 51 phantom naysayers prepare to witness the loss. Ugh. I feel sick. An impending need to drink even heavier. The sky really is falling!
"Call Detroit, tell dem... BULLSHIT!"
Is is wrong to feel
that I hope the mouthbreathers are partially right??
God, I really like Campbell. The whole media crap about Campbell taking a dive just pisses me off even more now. I don’t feel comfortable at all with Sopel and Boynton being in the lineup together.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 14, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
♫you don't know what you got, till it's gone♫
"The roar from the crowd really fired me up," Burish said. "In warmups there were a lot of signs. One said 'Burish, my grandma is pregnant.' I don't know what that means. I skated by it and said, 'it's not mine.' "
by jesus christos on Mar 14, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
OVECHKIN!
"The roar from the crowd really fired me up," Burish said. "In warmups there were a lot of signs. One said 'Burish, my grandma is pregnant.' I don't know what that means. I skated by it and said, 'it's not mine.' "
by jesus christos on Mar 14, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Ovechkin seriously needs his ass kicked
Where are the Gordie Howe’s nowadays. His next game, he would have been bloodied up.
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
This is terrible. Legitimately terrible.
This team clicks when Campbell is playing well. When he was doing his thing Nov-Jan we were unstoppable. While he is just one player, I think the only D Man we could afford to lose less is Keith. If you thought the PP was clown shoes now, just wait. This is pretty devastating news.
and fucking furthermore
I hope the mouthbreathing idiot in Section 314, Row 8ish is really fucking happy now that Campbell’s gone so he can rest his “BOO” voice for the rest of the season. Really fucking happy—-all class man, all class. I wish I could hear what this idiot would have to see after probably 3 games of this Boylan character or whatever his name is. If i was sitting closer to this ass clown, and wasn’ with my girlfriend, we would have had a nice, long chat about his complete and utter stupidity. Sorry, I hate people that do that shit.
Ugh, I was in 314 for last week’s Wings game and the very top row were Campbell booers. (They also went nuts booing when Huet was announced in the starting lineup. I wouldn’t say that jinxed his game, but…) I actually hadn’t heard it in a while, but maybe I’ve lucked out with my seats…
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has anyone seen this anywhere else
besides hendrickshockey?
Thanks for the link……….wonder if / when we’ll get confirmation on campbell’s status.
IF this is true, this is a brutal blow for the hawks. Soup has been our second best all around Dman this year.
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
has anyone seen this anywhere else
besides hendrickshockey?
i have not, but that wont stop me
"The roar from the crowd really fired me up," Burish said. "In warmups there were a lot of signs. One said 'Burish, my grandma is pregnant.' I don't know what that means. I skated by it and said, 'it's not mine.' "
by jesus christos on Mar 14, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Soupy is my favorite Hawk
I’m hoping against hope this is wrong!!
by Katherine215 on Mar 14, 2010 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Unless his broken collarbone is actually a seperated shoulder
and requires surgery, I’m going to go out on a limb and say he’s not done for the year.
It’s a 6-8 week recovery time for a broken collarbone. Worst case scenario, he’s back by the second round of the playoffs. And yes, I do realize I’m basing this diagnosis off of one guy’s source who doesn’t even have media access.
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Mar 14, 2010 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Kuc says
Q “wouldn’t discount the upper-body injury being so severe that it would affect Campbell the rest of the season.”
Oh man. Link
by Katherine215 on Mar 14, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Paging
Herm Schneider.
Paging Herm Schneider.
heh
The power play is still f**king clown shoes
Everybody...HIT SOMEBODY! ~ the Chicago Rush are back in April 2010
Herm Schneider
Along with having a great name to say out loud…(Herm Ssschhhnnnneeeiiidddeeerrrr)
Herm is a great head athletic trainer for the white sox who has been around for years.
angry bird is angry .
It's a long season...
…and even good teams hit some patches where they aren’t hitting on all cylinders, and that has been the Hawks for the last 10 games or so.
With that being said, it is bothersome they have difficulty playing with a lead and not burying a team when they have them on the ropes. 2-3 goal leads (and one goal leads late in games) should be close to done deals with a team like the Hawks, and that hasn’t been the case. When you give up goals in bunchs (which is what they have been doing), it’s usually from a lack of discipline and getting away from your game.
The psyche of the team just seems to be quite fragile of late, and one bad thing opens the flood gates for the other team.
They just need to bone up an get that straightened out.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Keep in mind, the losses were to Cup contenders and two of the top 5 teams from the East. Not much cause for worry, not like the losses were to Toronto and New York Islanders or something
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by red army line on Mar 15, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Agree somewhat...
…but you can go all the back to the Columbus game (weeks ago) when they blew a big lead and many games since when they have given up buckets of goals in short time frames.
Again, when your going along fine and then the wheels just fall off, it’s usually from a lack of focus and discipline. It is a long year and the best teams can go through funks that you really can’t explain, but you have to hope this isn’t something that creeps in their head every time they get a lead during the playoffs.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
a tale of 2 weekends
Weekend number 1:
The hawks get a couple bounces to go their way and they win both games in regulation.
Hawks 97 points with a game in hand on washington, Wash with 99 points.
Weekend number 2:
Hawks play respectable hockey, but don’t finish the job and end up getting 1 point total.
Hawks with 94 points (still a game in hand), Washington with 101 points.
Two very different President’s Trophy scenarios. Let’s just focus on clinching the division and see if we can catch San Jose.
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
Speaking of San Jose
they just lost to the ducks so we are still within 2
by hawkswin!hawkswin! on Mar 14, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Lay down the hammer
Hopefully the NHL need will grow a pair and suspend Ovie for a while. He’s ridiculously talented but this guy is crazy reckless on the ice. For every clean Jagr hit you have a couple of Kaleta, Gonch, and Campbell hits. It’s such bullshit. Even with their random wheel of discipline he fits many of the criteria:
1. He injured the checked/pushed player
2. He’s a repeat offender.
3. The “hit” was well publicized
4. Illegal hits are in the news
I know this style of play is what makes him impressive but this guy is consistently putting players on the IR.
Hit rant cont.
Not really upset about the game. But reading some stuff about the Ovechkin hit and its really upsetting. How is this hit not dangerous as hell? It was clear Campbell didn’t have the puck and was a non-factor in the play. What the fuck does pushing him 5 feet from the boards accomplish? Its nuts. I just don’t see how it should only be a 2 minute penalty. It just bugs the shit out of me b/c you always see the nastiest body contortions and injuries when a player gets pushed into the boards.
I guess I’m just a massive pansy and should switch to squash
/rant
Agreed
I actually am a fan of the way Ovechkin plays, and I don’t think the intent to injure was there, but the result speaks for itself.
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by AirTrafficAJ on Mar 14, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
We got 4 minute high sticking penalties not because we tried to injure someone….but it happened. He did it, I think he felt bad about it afterwords by the way he stood around to see how Campbell was and didn’t try to hurt him BUT it was a needless push, was dangerous, injured a key player on probably one of the more watched games in the NHL this year and he should get punished for it ESPECIALLY being a repeat offender in the game misconducts category. The league’s trying to protect players more. I think about a 5 game suspension would open some eyes and make some of the bozo’s on TV calling it a pushing penalty look as stupid as they really are. Maybe we’ll get 1 game at least.
I'm really peeved with this rationale
“It’s not Ovechkin’s fault he’s so strong! Any other player couldn’t do that to Campbell”
That kind of reasoning
Gets you a between the benches commentating job at NBC.
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by AirTrafficAJ on Mar 15, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Quote of the thread (and the last 6 weeks threads) IMHO.
“They aren’t playing solid hockey right now.”
by hackerar
So...
Is anyone else panicking about the playoffs now that there’s a chance that Soupy’s season is over? Something about him being out of the lineup gives me an uneasy feeling.
The fact that he might be gone for the regular season
doesn’t necessarily mean he’ll miss the playoffs. Who knows, maybe if the Hawks can limp into the second round, Soupy could return. As silly as it sounds, broken bones can be easier to heal than strains and such. I’ll wait to hear something more official.
If Campbell
has a broken rib, broken collarbone and a 2nd degree concussion, I think he’s pretty much done.
I think it takes 8 weeks just to heal
Competitive violence, that's why you're here!
Why...
Why are you never funny?
We could do with some laughs right now.
Why... Why are you never funny?
by that, I mean
i’m worried. i always felt this team would be fine, but that was under the assumption they’d be healthy. we’re about to see what the Hawks look like with out soupy and it could be really ugly.
Why... Why are you never funny?
Nothing is as ugly
as Sopel. His head, skating at full stride, his zombie-like reflexes, his head, and seeing him play on the PP & a 4v4 in OT…that was ugly…Chewbacca humping Barney ugly.
Now is no time for laughter
I just hope Campbell out of the lineup isn’t as bad as I’m imagining it to be. Hendry’s done a decent job this season so I’m thinking maybe he could fill in…him or Johnsson.
And I’m honored to have my drunk quote as your sig. Don’t know how long you’ve had it but I just noticed it and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
Still worried about Hossa too
The whole day-to-day thing. Just worried that he re-injured his shoulder.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 15, 2010 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions
If Campbell
has a broken rib, broken collarbone and a 2nd degree concussion, I think he’s pretty much done.
Competitive violence, that's why you're here!
I think it's pretty dangerous
to believe every bit of information from one guy with no media access.
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by El Duque's Raft on Mar 14, 2010 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
hear, hear
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 14, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
When Chi says it's true
then we can panic, but I’m getting loaded (and painting my living room) either way, just in case.
/wonder what the wife thinks of psychedelia?
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 14, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
how about basic white and human outline?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9MAmWnOznI
Why... Why are you never funny?
Wow, Bean!
Of course, me being a detail freak noticed the doorknob reappeared and therefore couldn’t bask in the hilarity…
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 15, 2010 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Just let the man eat his chicken noodle soup
He’ll be fine.
by Hi, I'm Bob LeDonne on Mar 14, 2010 9:28 PM CDT reply actions
Feel back for Soupy
…he had sort of just gotten out of doghouse with a lot of people and has been one of our better players…
" Lisa in this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!"
For the record......
Chicago Sportscenter has this sentence on it’s front page:
Blackhawks defenseman Brian Campbell is possibly out for the season after suffering broken ribs and a broken clavicle, according to league sources.
So that’s another report of it.
If he broke his clavicle...
…he is out 8-10 weeks.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
That report came from Jesse Rogers
And he’s not the type of guy who posts baseless rumors.
I’m guessing the league would need to know the extent of the injury in order to asses an additional suspension on Ovechkin (which would explain why league sources know more than what the media is being told during a press conference)? Or do they not take injuries into account when they give out suspensions?
"Another successful interaction with a man!" - Liz Lemon
I believe they do...
…take injuries into consideration.
Considering Campbell could be out for the duration, and Ovechkin received a game misconduct, he will probably see some suspension time.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Kuc from the Tribune is citing a source
and saying the same thing – broken collarbone and out for at least the regular season. :(
by Katherine215 on Mar 14, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
OVEEEECHKIIIIIN!
"The roar from the crowd really fired me up," Burish said. "In warmups there were a lot of signs. One said 'Burish, my grandma is pregnant.' I don't know what that means. I skated by it and said, 'it's not mine.' "
by jesus christos on Mar 14, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
i am so depressed now
poor soupy. now what? sopel and hendry and crash test dummy seabs?
Kim Johnsson
The dude is good. Pair him up w/Hjalmarsson and they’ll hold the fort until Soupy is healed. Hendry-Sopel pairing earning 12 or so min a night doesn’t sound too shabby.
Seabs just needs to go cruisin for slump-busters w/Madden on this road trip…and all will be well.
I'm no expert but
would it make more sense to move TOFTBO up and maybe play Biscuit with Johnsson on the 2nd pairing? In terms of complementary skill sets that could work, plus give Seabrook some reprieve so he can figure himself (or his relationships, etc etc) out.
Lines woud be:
Keith/Hjammer
Seabs/Johnsson
Hendry/Sopel(or boyton?)
How about sending Buff back to the D-line? would create more space for forwards as well and someone could give sopel a nice seat on the far side of the bench? May i throw out there for speculation….
Keithbrook
hjammer/buff
Johnsson/Hendry
angry bird is angry .
do not want Buff on the blue line ever again
please and thank you. Have you ever seen him skate backward? It’s a mess, and no better than Sopel would be, honestly.
No worries.....
,,,he has been pretty much invisble lately.
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
I don't have anything to say about this game
that isn’t expletive-laden or fueled by an alarming amount of alcohol in my system, so I just won’t get into it. Just one thing — in the space of two days, I’ve gone from “gently concerned about defensive breakdowns and inconsistent goaltending” to “pretty worried about the defense.” At least we have Johnsson. He’s a veteran guy with lots of experience and a decent amount of skill, and I hope he can be our low-sodium Campbell for the rest of the season.
Other than that, I’m still cautiously optimistic about the rest of the season and the playoffs. We kinda just have to wait and see how the team reacts to losing Campbell.
Speaking as a "fan" of the Hawks...
and not as a mouth-breathing purblind idiot, I am hoping that the Hawks make it into the playoffs.
That’s it. I am not going to die if they don’t win the cup this year.
Make it to the second season, and then we begin again.
I am unhappy that Campbell is hurt, but the team is not “done” without him.
I am looking forward to the next game.
You may now return to the standard “IT’S OVER!!1” bullshit commenting that has been happening for the entire fucking season.
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on Mar 15, 2010 8:59 AM CDT reply actions
I think the musical reference for this one should've been...
…“Careful With That Axe, Eugene”, considering it was the high-sticking penalties that cost us.
Hawks now 2-3-1 in day games. Yeah, NBC, about that April game against Detroit? No thanks, we’ll play at 6 on CSN. Yeah, thanks for checking.
by GenPabloSecobar on Mar 15, 2010 9:40 AM CDT reply actions
The sad part is
we had the lead in all 3 losses and couldn’t seal the deal.
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Why the fuck is Puck Daddy linking to this?
I actually don’t hate Ryan Lambert’s “What We Learned” recaps like so many of the commenters there do, but I noticed this weekend’s Hawks report is just:
Chicago Blackhawks: Chicago’s goaltending: playoff-ready.
And links to this piece. Um…what? Great, more fuel for a certain commenter there whose sole reason for existence seems to be Hawks goalie jokes. Did they WATCH these games?
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