Brian Campbell Likely Out For Remainder Of Regular Season
Last year, before the goalie debate was all the rage, the big issue of the year had to be between those who hated Brian Campbell and those who kinda sorta liked him. This year we've all pretty much liked what we've seen from our Ginger Blackhawk though... there's the remaining faction who hold fast to their belief that he sucks though. And now we get to see what this team will look like without him.
Ovechkin's hit crashed Soupy into the boards behind the net and in the process, broke his collarbone. He'll likely miss the regular season and could miss some significant time in the post-season too. The Hawks power play will certainly suffer in the meantime (if that's possible) but the real problem we're going to see is the transition game for the Blackhawks. As Sam noted in the game recap - the Hawks absolutely need a defenseman that can get the play going towards the opponents net - and Campbell is that guy. Expect Kim Johnsson to log some bigger minutes now that Campbell is gone for a while.
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So now we know
who writes the obituaries on SCH.
Killion, have you (or anyone) heard anything more on Hossa beside that he’s day-to-day, or any speculation that he re-injured his shoulder?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 15, 2010 1:13 AM CDT reply actions
Stan
Wise man stocking up on D-Men before the deadline.
" Lisa in this house we obey the laws of thermodynamics!"
Just curious, anyone venture over to Japer's Rink today?
I know it’s one of the most highly-regarded hockey blogs and all (I’ve read it a few times but never blogrolled it) but OH MY GOD is it disgusting regarding the hit. Admittedly I only skimmed through the first game thread and the 800+ comment game recap, but…yeah. I’m not sure how I feel about a possible suspension, and of course you’d expect them to be defensive about their star, but reading that made me want to break things.
Right after the hit happened there were accusations of Campbell embellishing it, and being fine because he got up (right, because ALL possible results of a hit are immediately visible). In the recap there’s plenty of griping about rumors of how bad the injury was (well, the rumors annoyed Hawks fans, too), and I can count on one hand how many people said anything sympathetic when it was proven how bad this was.
I didn’t want to be a hothead and jump in, so I didn’t say anything. (Not encouraging anyone else to, either…) It was just such a departure from anything else I’ve read this season from eastern conference fans.
Apparently the “cupcake division” line set them off too—I’d have thought Caps fans would have a sense of humor about that. Anyway, I should stay away from things making me angry now (including Caps fans on Twitter, though at least I have one friend who’s quite reasonable).
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Note: yeah, I know nothing I mentioned above is that surprising from an opposing team’s fans, it’s just that I’m more used to that level of hostility from Wings/Blues/Canucks fans, not an eastern team.
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Hostility?
Have you looked at your classy blog auther McClure’s entry regarding the Wings Hawks game and the comments that followed? Hostility is one thing, total lack of class in a sport that defines itself by class seems to be the theme here. He has less class than Patrick Kane. I immediatly put an entry on The Wings blog urging Wings fans to never represent our team or sport that way. I know some won’t listen, we certainly have our own idiots but Wings Hawks is a great thing and it is reduced to NFL or NBA trash with such representation. To the Hawks fans with some level of class I say it is great to have you back as a contending team.
by katiebarthedoor on Mar 15, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Um, no offense but
1. You seem a bit preoccupied with what we say in our blog. We didn’t go over there and post insults. Kinda funny that Detroit fans are so offended or even care about what is said by “Little Brother” or Shit-cago" fans. (you know we’re all bandwagons anyways, right?) Our “term of endearment” for Detroit is SCUM. It really seems to bother you, so you probably should just ignore our site if that puts your panties in a knot.
2. Immediately after you wrote your post that day, two nimrods came over here and posted crap. I didn’t notice anyone here going over there and retaliating to your site’s total of 8 commenters that day. Talk about bandwagon fans. But, like you said, it’s about class.
3. I never knew the NHL was defined as “classy”. It’s a much more “personal” sport with guys often beating the crap out of each other and laying dirty hits. I’m not an NBA fan, but I don’t notice this sort of stuff in either the NBA or NFL. Seems to me when people say “classier” they simply mean “less black”.
4. Kane = no class? What are you on? Can you name ONE, just ONE please, classless act he’s performed on the ice?? I gotta imagine you’re referring to the cabbie thing? One off-ice incident = classless player? C’mon.
Gosh, I bet you’d be fun to listen to if Huet and Niemi played for Detroit. Let it go. It’s old. You’ll be much happier for it.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 15, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
rec'd
but let’s not let this thread get blown out of proportion should Ms Katie decide to write up a retort. She seems to be new around both parts and has yet to discover what it means to have a sense of humor.
The Hawks (and us fans) have bigger problems than Scum right now. Fancy that.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on Mar 15, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Rec'd
What he said.
Also, please don’t talk about class when your team dresses a criminal whose record includes a violent attack that makes Ovechkin’s hit yesterday look like patty-cake.
by HungryHungryPanda on Mar 15, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Hockey - the classy sport? Riiiiiiight.
In my 40(+) years of active participation we have, at best(!), been written off as mouth-breathing neaderthals bent on mayhem rather than sport.
I think there’s a real dignity and code of honor and all to the game, but trash talk is a respected tradition (and it is only the most PC driven latecomers that would try that sort of revisionist history game on us).
you probably don't know this...
but when people from other blogs come here and post/comment (as long as their posts aren’t ridiculous, which yours is) the SCH writers are very respectful and welcoming.
Also remember, that this site is not written for your entertainment, it is written for ours.
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
this is why I never venture to opposing team blogs
Also, some Caps fans wear the bandwagon-jumper tag just as well as people from our excellent city, so I’d take a fair number of fan comments over there as a consequence of that (just as I do over here).
Yes
I was commenting over there earlier and spoke to a couple of knowledgeable fans, who were sympathetic about the injury to Campbell. It’s sometimes hard to weed through and ignore the muck, but there’s always good people on just about every fan site (except for the obvious few).
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 15, 2010 2:12 AM CDT up reply actions
I got curious
and went back to read the game thread and the recap; funny how the posters who were claiming Soupy was embellishing the hit haven’t commented after the injury report got reported.
well, it's even later there
but it’s kinda like the commenters here who were crowning Niemi after the 2nd period. Oops!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 15, 2010 2:17 AM CDT up reply actions
game day threads can be something of the wild west on japers’, for good and for bad. things are usually a bit more civilized on the recaps and caps clips threads, where we police ourselves a little more and the editors actively comment. i’d encourage SCH readers to stop by and add your 2 cents tomorrow if you feel up to it. people will stick up for you if you’re trying to have an honest hockey discussion.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 15, 2010 2:27 AM CDT up reply actions
btw, i don’t know how anyone could’ve seen/heard the force with which campbell hit the boards and still thought he was diving. i gasped when i heard it.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 15, 2010 2:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I know/assume Ovi didn't have intent to injure
but every time I watch that replay, I can’t understand why he felt he needed to give Soupy that push – and really wish he hadn’t.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 15, 2010 2:34 AM CDT up reply actions
it’s sometimes hard for us to weed through the muck, also. chicagonativeson and others, you’re welcome back any time. fwiw, i’m sorry to hear about the seriousness of soupy’s injuries. i lived in lakeview last year (irving park and lake shore dr.) and feel lucky to have the ‘hawks as my second team. good luck going forward. even with the recent blue line issues, you guys/gals have such a deep team, you’re built for the playoffs.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 15, 2010 2:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks Natty Bumppo
We’re gonna miss him. Unfortunately the D-corp is getting thin. We have the excess at forward. Good to hear an optimistic viewpoint. I often find that fans from other teams have more confidence in the Hawks then we do, but I think that’s universal when your team isn’t a perennial contender.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 15, 2010 2:30 AM CDT up reply actions
i’ve always like johnsson and was hoping the caps would make a run at him before the deadline. i think he can handle an increased workload. not sure how the bottom 2 spots will shake out, but no team is perfect heading into the postseason. i’m still surprised when i look at some of the AHL players the caps had to start last spring.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 15, 2010 2:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I had pretty much the same disdain for what I was reading over there
But you gotta remember how many mouth breathers are on every fan site. I know we’ve got our share here. It’s tough to read, but it’s every fan’s right to look at his/her team with subjective lenses. You only hope that more people choose the objective path.
The only thing that really pissed me off is the dumbass who suggested Campbell had a “pre-existing” rib injury because Ovechkin didn’t push his rib that hard. That was some solid analysis. Apparently, that moron looked away from their TV while Campbell was hitting the boards. People like that should stick to the ESPN boards.
by HungryHungryPanda on Mar 15, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe there's a silver lining to this
It hurts to think about not having Campbell for several weeks, and I agree that it’s hard to replace his ability to transition from defense to offense the way he does. It’s possible, however, that losing him for a while could be the final straw, so to speak. They wouldn’t be the first team to use a key injury to circle the wagons and put the burden on each other collectively to simply play better. I also wouldn’t be upset if the entire last two weeks has finally pushed this team to the point where they’re just pissed off. A team this talented playing with a chip on its shoulder wouldn’t be such a bad thing, would it?
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by TenMinuteMisconduct on Mar 15, 2010 1:55 AM CDT reply actions
I was thinking the same thing
I’m curious to see how we respond to this. We’ve been sitting on top for so long now that we haven’t had to fight for much. These next few weeks will say a lot about this team.
1961 is a long time ago.
On the other hand, would have been nice to use the last few weeks
to decrease ice time for Keith and Seabrook. Keith needs the rest and Seabrook needs to get better.
Picture bloodbaths and elevator shafts
Like these murderous rhymes tight from genuine craft
What Q should do
is reshuffle the D pairings completely now. Break up Seabrook and Keith for the moment, that way Keith isn’t covering for all Seabs mistakes, and hopefully it wakes up Keith.
He's the one they call Dr. Karpotsev...
by deathmonkey on Mar 15, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Was a bit hung over today
and missed most of the game, til I saw the score was tied and I turned it on and briefly heard about the hit. I said it before, I don’t like Ovie’s style of play, and now I hate it even more.
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I actually don't think Ovechkin's hit was that dirty
Ovie is an animal and I wish he was a Hawk because he’s just the best player in the world. He reminds me of Roenick, only faster and more skilled. He gets out of hand sometimes because he plays with unmatched intensity. I am pissed that Soupy is out. But that was more hockey than it was dirty.
1961 is a long time ago.
It was a dirty hit
It was not an “over the top” dirty hit. It was not a headhunting hit.
But it was a dirty hit.
It was dirty.
And it was meant to do some harm to Campbell. I don’t think he wanted to “injure” Campbell for the rest of the season, but he was, as he always is, trying to hurt his opponent.
It’s the way he plays. And unfortunately, It’s the way a lot of other players play. Hard play is good. Toews is a great example. It’s the stupid unnecessary hits that are the problem.
Maybe a couple less 5 hour energy’s before the game would help Ovechkin. Either that or Chris Pronger end his season. I’d like to see Pronger go after Ovechkin personally.
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
He did only push him...
…but he pushed him in the back, when he was going full tilt towards the boards. A player needs to know this is the most vulnerable position a hockey player can be on the ice, and I’d guess it’s why they have the penalty in place for hitting from behind.
Players need to have respect in these situations, and considering Campbell is out for the duration (I don’t see him coming back even if the Hawks make the finals), you have to hope the league sends a message here.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
under the circumstances - sort of like saying he only stabbed him instead of shooting
If Ovie doesn’t get a couple of games, it is only the “NHL Wheel of Justice” travesty in action
I'm with ya...
…and this is a good test to see how serious the league is protecting its players who are in vulnerable positions.
One thing to consider, if Campbell had gone into the boards head first, you could be talking about someone who is paralyzed as well.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
An Ovi suspension won't hurt them, actually might help
Caps pretty much have home ice and the President’s Cup wrapped up. Ovi didn’t get much rest over the Olympic break, so here’s his chance to get some (and avoid injury) for the playoffs. Seems almost unfair…
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 15, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Perhaps, but the league isn't allowed to make Ovie skate gaunlet drills
and not suspending him sends the absolute wrong message – even though it is arguably to his benefit (in all ways other than a small percentage salary hit – which would probably be more than most of us make annually).
Um.................Fuck
If it works don't go and F*** it up!
"SQUIRREL"
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Mar 15, 2010 5:00 AM CDT reply actions
Fresh off the presses
Per Jay Zawaski’s Twitter
JayZ670
Campbell has a broken wrist and clavicle. Likely season ending.
The broken wrist I think is new news. What next? He was hit so hard, Ovie gave him cancer?
wrist .. rib ... they's all parts, what's the difference?
although the rib will impact Campbell’s attempts to stay in shape while on the shelf.
A wrist can be rested while you ride the exercycle.
Ribs? Not so much, you just can’t stop breathing for a couple weeks.
His biggest problem...
…is the clavicle, because it is effected by any movement of his right arm. The bone will take a good 6-8 weeks to heal and then you have to strengthen the area before he could get back in a game. If he did try to rush back, it’s likely he will be tentative towards his right side, and thats something you don’t want.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
ribs and collar bone are both bad ones for coming back from
no matter how deep a run we make, he might not be back for any of it.
At best, maybe, the final round.
he just edited what he said
broken RIB, not wrist.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 15, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Brian Campbell was supremely important in last year's playoffs
His loss is a gigantic blow. As his numerous critics are about to find out. The critics like to focus on what Campbell doesn’t do commensurate with his big salary…but it is those critical things that he does do that are really going to be missed.
This doesn’t sound like the type of medical prognosis that holds out hope for a return during the playoffs. But we’ll see.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Better start loving you some Johnsson BLou
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 15, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
On Jay's twitter page
It says he has a broken rib and broken collar bone…And i read somewhere that rumors are floating around that Hossa might be out for the season as well??Its just a rumor,and supposedly Q said its not true…….but……..WTF!!!
The news just keeps getting better.....
A once solid defensive core has been looking shaky and now they are one player short. The Hawks can’t seem to hold a third period lead to save their lives. Stan decided that some extra depth wasn’t in the cards. And Hossa has some mysterious STD that no one can speak of.
I guess the only good news is that the goalies have played two pretty decent games, although they have gotten no help.
Matt Cooke is a turd burglar. He burgles ALL the turds.
when we were beefing about the 2nd period vacations
we weren’t meaning they should take the 3rd off instead.
I like Campbell generally, I just think his pay is sort of excessive.
The goaltending was finally good for 2 whole games, and we lost ’em both.
Crap. I guess I have to latch on to the “maybe they’ll jell” theme. Why is this looking like a Cubs season? Did the bandwagon include too many Cubs fans?
by krome on Mar 15, 2010 7:52 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I think it's me
I’m a Cubs fan, and I was wearing my Campbell jersey at the game. I wore my Sharp shirt twice last season and he got injured both times. Me and player apparel are a bad combination. :(
by Katherine215 on Mar 15, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
can you go to DC
and wear an Ovi jersey? I bet we’d all chip in to get you one. :|
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 15, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
i'll chip in ten bucks
but it’s purple and has some lady looking through binoculars
Why... Why are you never funny?
It's the least I can do...
I know I’m not really responsible, but I sort of feel like I am anyway.
by Katherine215 on Mar 15, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
by the way
thanks for quoting Q from Chris Kuc’s article yesterday. They removed the quote when they updated the article—not sure why.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 15, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
No problem
I didn’t realize they had taken it out. I heard him on the radio this morning and he said Soupy was out “indefinitely” and still wouldn’t confirm the collarbone injury when directly asked. Why are injuries so freaking secretive in the NHL?? Drives me nuts.
by Katherine215 on Mar 15, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I was tracing the development of the news
for my blog post this morning and was looking around for what Kuc said but it was no longer there, so I went back to SCH to find it.
Chicago’s always been super secretive about that sort of thing, unfortunately. Guess they just don’t want to encourage getting targeted when the players return to the ice.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 15, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions
That's one "Chicagoism" I can do without
All the sports teams do it, too. Cubs with their pitchers comes to mind immediately.
by Katherine215 on Mar 15, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
we'll need to remember this for each playoff round
Perhaps we should ensure that Katherine has some appropriate wardrobe additions coming
Don't make me wear opponents' jerseys!
I’ll get thrown off the 300 level balcony!
by Katherine215 on Mar 15, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm sure they'll understand
once you explain to them why.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 15, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, they'll have Tommy Hawk cushion my fall
instead of letting me hit the ground.
by Katherine215 on Mar 15, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Um, no comment
I guess it is a good thing blood is Red & Blue!
If it works don't go and F*** it up!
"SQUIRREL"
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Mar 15, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I like Campbell generally, I just think his pay is sort of excessive.
I think we’ve all heard just about enough about how much money Campbell and Huet make. Yes, it’s too much. No, we can’t change it. No, it shouldn’t affect your view of them as players.
I was separating the 2 - I think he's a fine player and valuable to the team
and I certainly don’t think less of him for taking all that was offerred
Well, we can't have a scientific discussion on the potential benefits of this theory
without having a “control group” right?
/nudge nudge
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 15, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
ROFLCOPTER
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 15, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
so, saturday I was calling for Sopel's head.....
and I got Campbell’s instead, this is not what I had in mind.
Hopefully, the two swedes will form a solid pairing, I’m optimistic that they will.
Also, for those of you who are interested in sending him a card (BLou), tomorrow is Kimmo Johnsson’s 34th birthday.
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
sorry - it was said with affection.
I reserve much more colorful language for angry posts (like that shitbag moron from the Caps site trolling here)
You knew this hit
was bad when the doctor went out on the ice instead of just a trainer.
He's the one they call Dr. Karpotsev...
For any visitors from Japer's Rink, or anywhere else for that matter.
Brian Campbell is NOT Colin Campbell’s son, so you can scratch that one off of your “THE NHL SECRETLY HATES ALEX OVECHKIN” conspiracy theory list.
by HungryHungryPanda on Mar 15, 2010 8:57 AM CDT reply actions
But is he
his nephew? Ah, a new wrinkle to the case has just been added.
He's the one they call Dr. Karpotsev...
by deathmonkey on Mar 15, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Give up....noooooo
Get up……yes. Now is the time to see who comes to play and who is just grabbing a pay-check.
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
it will be "separate the men from the boys" time for a while
I hope the character level in the room is such that the boys brigade is pretty tiny.
I would also like to know what Hoosa’s condition really is.
Getting sick of all those contending that it was a push "from the side"
Who knew that Campbell’s side was squarely between his numbers

by HungryHungryPanda on Mar 15, 2010 9:34 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
This looks like it
could be a Hossa jersey.
Competitive violence, that's why you're here!
by cdz3210 on Mar 15, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'll rec that too
but just for the sake of having something, just one little thing, even semi-humorous about this situation
I'm not anti-social; I'm just not user friendly
Very aggressive hit, but not dirty.
I think the other Hawk players thought so too. If the players on the ice thought it was a dirty hit they would have been all up in Ovie’s grill. I think most of the players thought Ovie would get a boarding call and that would be it.
Victim was found murdered by a Chelsea Dagger.
Did most of them see it when it happened?
I’m not sure. Brouwer was chirping at Ovechkin as he went to the dressing room but I don’t think they knew much other than Soupy was not in good shape.
by Katherine215 on Mar 15, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions
It was a dirty hit.
Pushing a guy from behind (or mostly behind or largely behind) 6 feet from the boards is dirty.
Shit, we teach that to Pee Wees and Bantams.
Not only dirty, but Lazy
Look at his legs in the picture. He has NO intention of playing the puck. If he keeps his feet skating he beats Campbell to the back of the net and actually makes a play.
All thes asshole commentators who say Campbells toe of his skate caught. Yeah it did because some potentially “roid raged” asshole was pushing him into a wall and he went out of control
Mike Milbury and McGuire If Ben Eager runs Iginla, Nash, or god forbid Crosby into the boards they would be calling for Eager to get the rest of the season.
Chelios should Propp him.
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
Of course he had no intention of playing the puck
It was squarely in Duncan Keith’s stick and being moved up the ice in the other direction when this hit occured.
by HungryHungryPanda on Mar 15, 2010 11:29 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Not Dirty?
It is the epitome of a dirty hit. Look at how wide his legs are which increases his leverage and enables him to luanch of falling Campbell into the boards. He pushes a defenseless opponent face first into the boards from behind at top speed and that’s not dirty? Wow. That play is unbelievably dangerous and the kind of situation where someone could snap their neck because he is completely defenseless. I find it amazing that anyone could defend that.
I wish he would have stayed in the game. There will be payback when these teams meet again. It may take a year because the Cup Finals are not a place to settle scores, but there will be payback.
by Duck99 on Mar 15, 2010 10:14 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe we need to
put those stop signs on the back of the players jerseys like they do with high school. It seems that stuff like this is happening far too often nowadays. Most people respond with, “the players are bigger and faster”, and yes, that is a part of it, but on stuff like this hit in particular, that was a conscious decision by Ovie to hit someone in the back by the endboards.
He's the one they call Dr. Karpotsev...
by deathmonkey on Mar 15, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
No, not a dirty hit
Ill-advised, certainly, dirty no. At no time have I thought intent was to ever injur, or overly risk injury, I do not see Ovie pushing with allot of force into the boards, rather pushing to knock him out of position to get to the puck.
Illegal contact, too close to the boards, and agressive yes. If the fact of how close he was to the end boards makes it dirty, than ALL Boardings would be dirty.
To me a dirty hit is one that 1.) Intent is to Injur NOT the play 2.) High risk contact with high probablity of injury 3.) Anything involving Cooke.
If it works don't go and F*** it up!
"SQUIRREL"
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Mar 15, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Ovie qualifies on your item #2 - thus yes, dirty hit
shoving someone headfirst into the boards, at speed, from about 6 feet out is high risk/high probablity. It is taught as such to Pee Wees (the first US level permitted full checking in the USA youth leagues)
I know I'm in the small minority on this one
But I’m just not seeing it like that. I am by no means an Ovie lover, between him and Crosby I hope I never hear their names mentioned again. But I’m not seeing it as risky, I’m seeing Ovie trying to push Soupy along so he can get by him to the puck. I do not think Ovie had any intent or meant to hit him so it drops him into the boards. Perhaps nudge him into the boards, but not know him off of his feet. When watching it the first time, That is how I saw it, he was trying push him off the play, not of his feet (illegally as INT as minimum had he not crashed into the boards) and would not have seen it as high risk, let alone high probability of injury.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Mar 15, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
May I ask you a question?
(yeah, I know, I just did) I, in no way, mean this in a condescending manner. Are you newer to the game full-time?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 15, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
No, not new to the game
Perhaps I need to see it again. I’m really going off of what I saw during the game yesterday, and have not seen it since. But that is how it struck me.
Should he have pushed Soupy no-way! Certainly a penalty no matter the result. But watching it, it just did not strike me as “dirty”. Perhaps I have a different threshold for it. I do not consider anything that can be considered a penalty “dirty”. For me the biggest thing is intent to injur, or taking a gross chance at something that can injur a player, and the offending player should have know better.
Did Ovie take a chance? Sure, but so is any player leading with a shoulder to the upper body of another player of scrambling his brain for a while. Was the play too risky to take? IMO yes. Does Ovie meet my criteria? Yup.
I have played Hockey, and am getting ready for a Roller league here in a couple weeks (and I completely suck). I understand the risks. But it is really my gut telling me it was not dirty, I just am not seeing intent to hurt or a gross risk, just a play that went really really bad. I could be wrong, and knowing me probably am wrong. So I’ll watch it again and probably realize I’m a complete moron. But like I said this was based off of initial take on watching it.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Mar 15, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Just watched it again
Yup I’m a moron!
He hit him much harder than I remembered. I remembered it being a shove to get by, not a cross-check from behind.
So certainly a DIRTY hit. Cross-Check to the back into the boards, no excuse I do not think intent was to injur, but that was certainly gross risk. The penalties I saw from the hit that could have been called include Hitting from behind, Cross Checking, Boarding, Roughing, and Interference, all at the major penalty level.
Good call on the Refs for the Match Penalty and Major, and for you all pointing out how retarded I was.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Mar 15, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL, not retarded
I was actually just typing for you to go watch the replay. It didn’t look quite as bad in real time, but when you see Ovi’s arms extend… not much question there.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 15, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I would just go with "initially mistaken" - happens to everyone
probably be best to distance oneself from use of the R-word (else the PC police come descending upon us)
The reason I ask
is that many newer fans don’t realize how dangerous a hit – or even push – like this is. It lacks the bone-crushing, head-smashing element of the “obvious” dirty hit. Even with that, many view a clean hard body on body hit as dirty, especially when injury is the result. Campbell’s position on the ice was literally about the most prone a skater can be in. Other skaters know this and view this as off limits. As a player, Ovie’s decision (and the puck had already been played up ice) to push Campbell is beyond acceptable. This is the reason that I am open-minded to the idea of automatic icing. Again, I don’t believe the intent to injure was there, but the MAJORITY of the time, this type of push results in serious injury which makes it dirty. Maybe this is just a discussion over semantics and the usage of “dirty”?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 15, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
the "danger zone" 6 feet out from the boards
is part of the introduction to checking lesson plans for 11 year olds (in the USA, where checking starts with Pe Wee hockey). It is pretty basic stuff that the pros should have fully internalized by the time they’re in the NHL
and more former players are wheel chair bound from this sort of contact
than the headhunting elbows we’re seeing all the furor over lately
thanks for the explanation
this is one of those penalties that many dimwits will have a field day complaining about
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…and I don’t know how much hockey you have played, but when you have a guy going full blast towards the boards, they are in the most vulnerable position possible if you are pushed from behind. If you lose your footing in those circumstances, you are going to hit the boards (and they don’t give much) with a hell of a lot of force.
In hindsight, the injury to Campbell could have been a lot worse than it actually was. If he would have hit head first, he could have been in a position where he walked his last step.
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I hope I'm wrong
but I’m not too confident he’ll be back this year. If it takes him 6 weeks to recover from the break itself, he still needs it to strengthen his collarbone to take the contact in a game. Another thing to look for is that he might be a little reluctant for any contact, especially going to the boards to fight for a puck. I guess this is something that everyone will have to sit back and wait and see.
Competitive violence, that's why you're here!
Time for the team
to put their purse down and man up. Injuries happen throughout the season, but championship style teams still find ways to win.
Ovie should only play when Campbell does
I say suspend him till Campbell comes back healthy; there was absolutely no reason for him to make any contact with Campbell, he had already played the puck and was in a defence-less position. I like Ovechkin as a player but this stuff is uncalled for, he’s an obvious repeat offender much like Chris Simon, Todd Bertuzzi, and Matt Cooke; only difference is he’s a goal scorer. The NHL wants to improve safety for it’s players? Make an example of " the best player in the world" and suspend him.
Now I’m not advocating for pussifying the sport like Pierre McGuire, but careless, selfish plays like this cannot be tolerated. And only that asshat McGuire would defend Ovechkin for a play like that, fuck him and his bald, bespectacled cock gobbler of a word hole.
Eye for an eye right?
i think most people who say isn't wasn't nasty hit haven't played hockey
or even ice skated very much. Everyone who skates knows when you are particularly vulnerable to completely losing control. Just because the hit didn’t look particularly vicious doesn’t mean that it wasn’t a vicious hit. Just like a chop block or a horse collar in football isn’t the hardest hit you’ll see, there are rules against it because it is taking specific advantage of a person’s vulnerability. Or, for a hockey example, the slough foot. In reality, the slough foot can be a much more dangerous move than the most bone crunching slam into the boards (followed by the subsequent boners by hockey’s corsican brothers, millbury and cherry) because you can fall right back and slam your head on the ice.
Where millbury is a moron (among other areas) is that he confuses physical play with dirty play. Everyone likes physical hockey play, it’s what is great about the sport, even the fighting; but there is no place, for dirty play. Often, dirty plays are very physical plays, like when a guy gets his head taken off. However, ovie’s play was dirty but not very physical and that is why he deserves a healthy suspension.
by SLoop on Mar 15, 2010 11:46 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Good examples
especially the chop block. I imagine most newer or fair weather hockey spectators don’t realize how dangerous a push like this is and how highly it is frowned upon because of the vulnerability issue. During the game, I thought it was dirty but that the refs overreacted with the game misconduct. After the game when I watched the replays, it was obvious that the refs made the right call and a suspension is also warranted. Great summary and points regarding Milbury.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 15, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Game misconduct
…is in the rules, Doc and Edzo pointed out that a major boarding penalty that results in an injury is an automatic game misconduct. Game misconduct means review by the league and hopefully a suspension, which would be his 3rd this year.
I think the rule is head/face injury—>automatic misconduct, and while I don’t think there was a definite head injury, it was really close.
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by red army line on Mar 15, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Some reports have included a concussion among his many injuries.
by Katherine215 on Mar 15, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
True
but he didn’t go face first into the boards and the concussion probably wasn’t obvious at the time. I thought 2+2 at the time. Not that I’m arguing with the refs’ call.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 15, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Hit on Briere
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxMJrQhGoSg&feature=related
Not the first time he’s done this crap, he needs to learn to stop these dangerous plays; either the easy way of a suspension or somebody light him the fuck up by boarding him.
So you're suggesting that to stop dangerous plays from happening
someone should board him? Pardon me while I go kick my dog to make him less aggressive.
by HungryHungryPanda on Mar 15, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Very curious...
…to see what the league does here. I understand he has already been summoned to the league office for a hearing.
Considering he has done this before, and Campbell’s season is likely done, a long suspension could be in the works if the league has the balls.
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Could be...
…but considering Washington has a good spot locked up in the East, they may give him more than you may think if they were battling for their playoff lives.
I’m not sure what the precdent is for a hitting from behind penalty like this (and the guy being hurt this badly), but considering he has a pattern of doing this, they may feel the situation is right to send a message, without screwing up the Caps season and knowing Ovenchkin will still be in the playoffs.
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I don’t think a suspension is supposed to hurt a team’s chances and whether it does or not shouldn’t be taken into consideration. A dirty hit is a dirty hit and should not happen in the first place. Suspensions are supposed to condition players to avoid those hits.
Like you said, he’s had a history of these kinds of things recently. Slew footing, knee-on-knees…I think this is his 3rd misconduct this season alone. He may not have the intent to injure but he’s injuring people and that alone should be reason for a suspension.
OV fills the stands though and that’s where there’s a conflict of interest.
"I’m not sure what the precedent is for a hitting from behind penalty like this"
A very simple answer/question to this might be “When is the Caps next potential nationally televised game?”
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 15, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Same deal with Crosby being a whiner though—it’s well in the past.
—> He has been boarded, been dealt dangerous hits, etc, just I guess his young body can handle it. His flying into the boards after Chara tripped him last season comes to mind easily.
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by red army line on Mar 15, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Crosby a whiner? What a shock from a Capitals fan.
As far as “in the past” goes I don’t see Crosby complaining to officials just raising Stanley Cups, receiving Gold Medals, and living up to the hype that has surrounded him.
Ovechkin is still the same player who continuously takes out player after player with reckless abandon and continues to “get away” with it.
If you need a list here it is on your Ovechkin.
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Listen, I’m pissed that soup got hurt. I don’t think ovechkin was trying to hurt him, and I think his reaction to the hit shows that.
Ovechkin plays with a high motor, hits a lot, and occasionally he makes bad split second decisions with those hits, but he is not matt cooke. I’m not saying ovechkin shouldn’t be suspended, give him a couple games to think about it, but I’m not calling for his head.
Wake me up when Ovechkin punches someone in the back of the head (while someone has them tied up) and then punches him in the balls, that’s how Sid the Kid rolls.
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
Right now we’re on boarding type things, which should and are distinct from kneeing.
Briere was in his rookie season, no? Long time back.
The boarding earlier this year was total BS, the player saw Ovechkin coming and turned his back. Rules clearly say that if the recipient turns his back it’s not a penalty.
Anything else?
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by red army line on Mar 16, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Watching that makes me very, very angry.
And I wish the refs didn’t break up the ensuing fight right away. I also wish Ovie didn’t wear a face mask and had to take those couple punches.
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He will next year.
Mark my words this close-knit team won’t forget this. If anything else the next regular season encounter will probably look something like this. Ovechkin is bound to become the next Claude Lemieux when these two teams meet again.
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have the Hawks repaid the Kronwall and Willie Mitchell hits yet? I don’t recall anyone taking a run at Barrett Jerkoff after his recent run at Kane. Seabrook repaid the Cleary on Kane hit but the Hawks are just not that kind of team. I guess we’ll see, but I think the Hawks have more of a ‘in the moment’ type team toughness…not necessarily a retaliatory nasty streak even with Eager.
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by Crease Monkey on Mar 15, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
The Mitchell hit with their play, arguably
but not the Kronwall one yet. Getting in a little physical retaliation (but not in a numbskullery-type way) certainly would make any of us happy but I definitely hope we can take it to them with skill and poise. That’s the road to go through if we’re going to make it.
to be fair
Mitchell hasn’t played a game against the Hawks since he laid that clean hit on Toews.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on Mar 15, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
so what…Mitchell didn’t get ejected from the game. He was still around if someone wanted to retaliate. Versteeg did his shoving act and that was that. Besides why go after Mitchell? It was technically a clean hit (albeit with intent to injure). So if you’re worried about teams taking liberties you take a run at their 1st line C. Toews is a huge loss. Mitchell is of marginal consequence. Also, no retaliation to the Sabres on the Stafford elbow that put Keith on the shelf last year. I’m not saying the Hawks need an enforcer or need to goon it up or anything, I’m just saying the Hawks aren’t that kind of team.
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by Crease Monkey on Mar 15, 2010 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
What is the slough foot?
I can’t find a definition and it’s not something I’ve heard in my (limited) hockey experiences.
by Katherine215 on Mar 15, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
when you’re standing on your skates and someone comes up behind you and bumps your heel with their skate. Because the steel on hockey skates are rockered, there is little chance you can catch yourself. It’s kind of like if you were standing on a rug and someone yanked it out from under you.
Again, it doesn’t look like much when compared to other plays but it can be pretty dangerous.
Ow. I understand now.
I think the spelling was why I couldn’t find a definition online. Thanks for explaining and providing video examples!
by Katherine215 on Mar 15, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Here you go
i actually found a video of ovechkin slew footing a guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0QGStjCKRw&feature=related
Nice guy, that Ovechkin
“Exuberant” or not, he needs to control his body.
by Katherine215 on Mar 15, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
From the NHL official rules...........
Rule 52 – Slew-footing
52.1 Slew-footing – Slew-footing is the act of a player or goalkeeper using his leg or foot to knock or kick an opponent’s feet from under him, or pushes an opponent’s upper body backward with an arm or elbow, and at the same time with a forward motion of his leg, knocks or kicks the opponent’s feet from under him, causing him to fall violently to the ice.
52.2 Match Penalty – Any player or goalkeeper who is guilty of slew-footing shall be assessed a match penalty.
52.3 Fines and Suspensions – There are no specified fines or suspensions for slew-footing, however, supplementary discipline can be applied by the Commissioner at his discretion (refer to Rule 29).
A link also: >http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26344
non se•qui•tur (nŏn sěk'wĭ-tər, -tŏŏr')
n. 1. An inference or conclusion that does not follow from the premises or
evidence.
2. A statement that does not follow logically from what preceded it.
The more I see of Ovi's past disgressions, the more I think the guy is a dirty player
Slew footing, knee to knee hits, hitting from behind. This guy has quite a history. For such a big, powerful guy he really goes for the cheapshots a lot.
2 Games
David Kaplan just reported on WGN that Ovechkin will be suspended for 2 games. Way to go NHL…what a joke.
Given the state of the league
I’m suprised he got anything.
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there's not much good coming out of losing our resident ginger
but i hope losing him lights a fire under the teams ass, or at the very least gets seabrooks head out of his ass
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Well your sly one.... Mr. Ovechkin.
It looks like everyone is coming out of the woodwork to show their displeasure of the “Great 8” {which makes me vomit because the only players that should have great beside thier names are Richard, Gretzky, and Orr} and now TSN is debating his character. His multiple incidents and now 2-GAME SUSPENSION has the hockey world wondering if he is a little too reckless.
Well, my opinion is the very same for Ovechkin as it was for a young reckless, and careless individual that supposed to be the next “THING” back in the early 90’s. His name was Eric Lindros. Sure he looked like he was God out there playing as reckless without any care in the world and all the while leading the league in scoring and netting himself a Hart Trophy back in 1995. It didn’t matter what he did it was full throttle and didn’t display any regard for any other player around him injuring one player after the other.
Well, guess what? He eventually met Scott Stevens and one day Ovechkin will meet his Stevens as well. What comes around goes around and it will to Ovechkin.
It’s only a matter of time and when it does Capitals fans don’t look for sympathy from anyone because you won’t find any.
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by hawks61 on Mar 15, 2010 4:47 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Ovechkin videos
Now that I’m home I’ve had a chance to look at all of the video on Ovechkin cheap shots and to read his explanations and apologies. Each time he basically says it’s not his fault. This guy is bad for hockey and should be banned. I know that will never happen and never has happened to other cheapshot players.
However, Ovechkin has a clear history of causing severe injuries. Campbell’s is not the last serious injury he’ll cause. What happens when he causes something permanently debilitating? Will the NHL give him a three game suspension?
In most industries, if a company knows they have a dangerous employee or situation and fails to do anything about it, they may be sued or even be held criminally liable. The NHL should be concerned not only about how its perceived but also its true liability.
More I see the less I like of Ovechkin
Criteria for dirty does not mean you have to be trying to injure someone. Dirty is taking advantage of a player in an illegal way to gain an edge in the play. You chop block someone, you might just want to protect your QB and not injure them, but how does that make it less dirty? Whether the person does or doesn’t get injured and much less trying to guess if someone intended it doesn’t matter.
I gotta take my hats off to the ref. He had the balls to make the right call on an NBC showcase game and took the best player off the ice. Would any NBA ref have the balls to kick Jordan out of a nationally televised game? The only way either happens if it is totally flagrant and without a doubt dirty play.
Finally imagine for a sec Pronger or Bertuzzi doing that to Ovechkin in EXACTLY the same way and situation. Think the fuckwads on NBC would be laughing about about calling a pushing penalty? Would ANYONE be satisfied with only a 2 game suspension? The ONLY reason there is any debate is because the NHL and media make money off Ovechkin and they can’t totally kill their golden goose.
Pretty much spot on
One outcome of this “unfortunate” (/sarc) situation is that it has definitely rallied the troops here at SCH. Let’s hope it has the same effect on our Blackhawks.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 16, 2010 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions
On Campbell
The ’Hawks cannot replace what Campbell brings to this team. His instantaneous offence he brings from the blueline is what makes him one of the most feared offensive blueliners in the game.
Sometimes it gets overlooked that most of the Niklas Hjalmarsson’s maturation as a defenceman has come because he is paired with such a gifted defenceman. Campbell has been the one that has given him the odd tip or two helping Hjalmarsson develop into, and deal with the pressure of being, the NHL defenceman he has become. Make no mistake that being paired with a veteran defenceman like Campbell has done wonders for Hjalmarrson.
Let’s not forget that he truly is the ONLY Quarterback for this team PP. If it was clown shoes before just wonder what it’s going to look like without Campbell for the whole 2 minutes. It won’t be pretty and now Keith will be forced to become the every PP guy and have it run through him. Frankly, all I want D2K to do is hand the puck off to Kane and let him try to manuveur this PP into success. The only minescule positive is that we may see Hjalmarsson on the PP, but we’ll how that goes before getting too excited.
May one of the classiest players in the game have a speedy recovery and help this franchise capture it’s first title since 1961. He’ll be missed and more than what most people think.
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by hawks61 on Mar 15, 2010 5:17 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
I’m hoping Johnsson can step up more on the PP, but you make great points on Hjammer’s development and Campbell’s role on the team. (Full disclosure – I am biased on Campbell as he is my favorite Hawk.)
by Katherine215 on Mar 15, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you think they'll fast track Lalonde?
I noticed they assigned Shawn Lalonde to Rockford, right after the Campbell injury. Do you think they may fast-track him up to the Hawks for the playoffs? His speed is supposed to be fantastic. Or is he still too young, inexperienced? Maybe the Rockford assignment will answer those questions.

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