Two Bits Of News
1. Ovie got a two-game suspension, which sounds just about right to me. He's a repeat offender, and hopefully the message gets through to him, because when he's not pulling this crap he is simply a joy to watch.
2. You DirecTV viewers have VS. back. A deal has been struck, so you can keep your playoff beard growing within the confines of your home.
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I’m hoping there’s some sinister connection between both these pieces of news breaking at the same time (well, they did on Twitter). Someone make one up!
1. That sounds about right too. I don’t think of him as a dirty player, but I want a message sent about dirty hits. Of course it’s maddening nothing at all happened to Cooke, but all the “don’t suspend Ovie because they didn’t suspend Cooke”…uh, isn’t there a phrase about “two wrongs”? Oh, and I’m trying to keep myself away from Capitals blogs today…
2. Aw, but the Versus/DirecTV debacle was a staple of every list of “top 10 things wrong with the NHL/hockey”! What will take its place now? (I was told: Versus itself. I don’t have cable so I only know of it from online feeds…)
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As happy as I am to see Ovie suspended
If I had to pick only one of them, I would have rather seen that gutless goon Cooke get suspended.
Oh, thank God
It’s great to hear about the suspension. Ovie is one of my favorite players, and it would be a shame for his line-walking to get out-of-hand due to league protection or indifference.
Why... Why are you never funny?
Hooray
and shitbag fucking Versus has the Boston/Devils game on in 20 minutes. We may have to upgrade them from shitbag-fucking status.
let's not get ahead of ourselves
Can you just try and phase it out? You know, for those of us who highly enjoy your LOL-inducing rants about them? (maybe I’m just speaking for myself here)
Either way, it’s good news for me. I’m personally TV service provider-less but my friend’s got DirectTV so I’m all set. I dropped an exorbitant amount of money at various bars during the playoffs last year just so I could watch the games.
by ITypedforMiles on Mar 15, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
2 games does seem about right
and I can get back to my favorite bar for my drinking out time
by krome on Mar 15, 2010 5:47 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
2 posts does seem about right
and I can get back to my favorite blog for my making fun time
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2 games does seem about right
and I can get back to my favorite bar for my drinking out time
by krome on Mar 15, 2010 5:47 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I'm gonna go get the papers
get the papers.
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by thepuckstopshere on Mar 16, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
that is what I don't understand about ovechkin
Why would you play like that when you are such a skilled guy? Every hockey player knows what plays you can and can’t make without hurting someone. It has happened enough where you have to think he simply is a dirty player. It’s just odd because guys that play dirty often do it in lieu of skill.
but 2 does seem right, I wanted 4-5 but i knew i wasn’t going to get that.
As added punishment, while he is suspended he should be required to watch the canada-russia olympic hockey game over and over.
He is fucking intense
Basically cannot control himself sometimes. I don’t think he is actually going out to hurt somebody. Who knows maybe he has a massive case of ADD or something.
That’s his game, aggressive. If you saw the NBC Pens-Caps, Pierre McGuire called him “the ultimate predator in the National Hockey League.” To an extent, it’s true. He generally doesn’t headhunt, but he makes those borderline hits (and should have been getting called more often—not as much this season, as his hitting is down per game). He went in for the hit and went in too early/late, getting caught in the area where Campbell flies into the boards after any hit.
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by red army line on Mar 16, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
But the “borderline” hits are piling up, and still lot of people are commenting that they don’t want him to change his style or throttle down. What I say to that is there are rules in hockey. This isn’t ultimate fighting. Ovi should know better, but he really doesn’t seem to get it.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 16, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Ever since the beginning of the season he’s seemed more fired up than before. I’m not really sure why, though that 6-2 loss in Game 7 probably contributes. He’s acting like a man on a mission. I like what he brings even like this, but he should save it more for the playoffs.
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by red army line on Mar 16, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
man on a mission?
or a man retarded?
Seriously, unless this guy is legitimately unbalanced or has real mental problems, it’s not that fucking hard to play physical and not take cheap shots. Boxers are pretty intense and I don’t seem to hear about guys boxing dirty that often. If this guys is as nuts as mike tyson, he needs to be taken out.
That's way hyperbolized, SLoop...
and we obviously disagree on what a cheap shot is. A slash after a guy decks you, that’s a cheap shot for me. But I saw an ill-advised and horribly-timed hit that didn’t connote illegal intentions in the first place.
Of course a player can play physical and not take cheap shots. But when a player hits as often as Ovechkin, you certainly are going to have some hits that end up badly. It’s simple numbers.
My “man on a mission” analogy reflected how he has been trying to hit harder and is hitting in that gray legal-illegal area more often (though cutting down on the charging, but more borderline interference and such). And yes, I have seen a ton of Ovechkin every season since his rookie season.
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by red army line on Mar 16, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder if Ovie does it because he has a screw loose
He just strikes me as long on exuberance and somewhat lacking in prudence/judgment. Sort of all id, no superego.
by krome on Mar 15, 2010 6:07 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
seriously...
after watching all his “famous” incidents, he is like a crazied assassin who shoots someone and then can’t understand why they’re bleeding.
I can’t believe i’m going to say this, but i agree with don cherry. Someone is going to line him up and hit him good. I hope it doesn’t end his career or hurt him too bad because when he’s not playing dirty, he’s a benefit to the league and fun to watch, but someone is really going to hurt him sooner or later and it’s tough to say he won’t deserve every bit of it.
I remembered a magazine profile
I read a while back that had him come off as a complete euro-douche. It took me forever to find it because it’s not online, just the image of it is, and it’s from Maxim which wouldn’t have been my first guess. Here’s two image scans of the article, you can judge for yourselves:
again
I do not think its fair to say that Alex O is doing it on purpose. You could tell he knew he fucked up after her hit Soupy yesterday. He needs a message sent to him that he has to cut it out. The NHL is trying to cut down on this shit and they sent the appropriate message today.
Totally sucks to lose Campbell though. No way in hell he is going to be able to play for the rest of the season
2 Games is a message?
Seriously?? You think giving him two games off is a message? I think 2 games off is a joke.
Conn, Sonar!
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by thepuckstopshere on Mar 16, 2010 7:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Which way did he turn, Jonesy?
To the starboard, sir!
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by thepuckstopshere on Mar 16, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm with ya...
…and since he has a track record of showing no respect, I was hoping for at least 5.
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Yep, should of gotten
at least 5 games. He’s a CRAZY RUSSIAN!
Revenge is a very very very dangerous motivation!
by thepuckstopshere on Mar 16, 2010 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions
It doesn't matter...
…if he did on purpose, it matters that he keeps doing this shit to other players.
I don’t care how strong this dude is, someone is going to send a message to him and make his life miserable. When guys in the league see stuff like this happen to other players, they tend to band together a bit and help each other out, because they know it could have been them.
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Wow I was about to switch to Dish network
I was so pissed about the whole VS thing I was going to switch to Dish Network after my center ice played out. This is now one less thing to worry about.
I think Ovie does have more than a few screws loose. You can see it in his eyes, it’s not genius, it’s wacko, IMO.
Do'nt do Dish for VS
Unless you’re willing to pay for the top tier package. They don’t have VS on the other packages at least as of now.
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by stickhandler on Mar 16, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
The suspension is without pay
apparently a two game suspension without pay will cost him $232,000. That’s a lot of money, now I really hate him.
...
You will probably hate him more when your realize he probably doens’t even give a shit about the 232,000.
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I don’t get to see a lot of Cap games but it seems like he’s a bully, he only hits guys when they’re not looking or smaller. In the Canada game when the bigger boys came looking for him he went in a shell only coming out when a Russian girl was video taping him at the airport.
i’m sorry, none of this makes any sense. ovechkin routinely hits people straight on, and routinely hits players much larger than he is. see the olympics: the jagr hit, and knocking chara off his feet three times in the same game. the guy hits people…a lot. he doesn’t discriminate based on size, and he his ratio of clean hits to penalized hits is pretty huge (his first dose of supplementary discipline was the peverley hit last october…his 847th regular season hit).
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 15, 2010 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe i'm still just pissed about Campbell
but I didn’t say all his hits were dirty, just it seems like he picks his spots, from memory the hits on Chara he caught him off guard.
well you did say ALL his hits were “when guys weren’t looking or smaller.” so that’s about as inclusive as you can get.
the ovechkin/chara hits aren’t on youtube because of IOC rights violations. but trust me, they were straight on and they were devastating. chara saw him coming on two of the three, but couldn’t get out of the way. they were all legal—either while chara had the puck or examples of finishing a check.
here’s AO on hal gill, another behemoth.
and just because..
here is chara vs. ovechkin, earlier this season (2-minute penalty, no game misconduct, no suspension).
here is craig adams vs. ovechkin, earlier this season (no penalty, no game misconduct, no suspension).
here is david koci vs. mike green, earlier this season (2-minute penalty, 1 game misconduct, no suspension).
[FTR, i don’t think chara deserved a penalty or a suspension…caps examples because i’m a caps fan, so it’s what i’m familiar with.]
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 15, 2010 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
my bad
koci on green: 5-minute penalty, 1 game misconduct, no suspension.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 15, 2010 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
That Koci hit on Green was fucking disgraceful
Main difference I see on all of those hits is that the puck was in play. On the Campbell hit, the puck was not in play. And yes, I know that everyone is taught to finish their check, etc… but I think all players, not just AO, have to be aware of when it’s dangerous. I think Toews had the best quote I’ve read so far:
“We’re hoping for the best with Brian. There’s so much of that stuff [head injuries] going on now, it’s pretty frustrating the players don’t take a stand against something like that and say, ‘You know what, we have to respect ourselves a little bit more,’ and know it’s not all about the flashy hit. You have to know when there’s a dangerous situation and you can really hurt somebody and be smarter about it.”
by HungryHungryPanda on Mar 15, 2010 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed and good point.
And further to my comment below, Natty’s argument is akin to the drunk driver telling the judge that he has driven home drunk on many other occasions without killing anyone.
Not trying to stand up for a Caps fan
But you’re making it kinda hard for me to agree with you. The drunk driving analogy doesn’t really make sense to me and is a bit inappropriate.
by HungryHungryPanda on Mar 15, 2010 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Welcome to your opinion.
I don’t mind anyone disagreeing with me, but I don’t see how the analogy is inappropriate.
Didn't mean inappropriate in a non-PC sense
Just that I think it doesn’t really do its job, probably a bad choice of word. More appropriate would be “telling the judge that he has driven many times without killing someone.” The implication is that AO plays in a constant state of “drunkenness”.
by HungryHungryPanda on Mar 15, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
i’d just like to see more consistency across the board from colin campbell’s office, as i’m sure we all would. i’d like full explanations to accompany every suspension.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 15, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
it was the adams hit that the most reasonable commenters at japers’ have a problem with. i see only two differences between the adams hit on ovechkin and the ovechkin hit on campbell:
1) AO hit head-first into the boards, campbell didn’t.
2) campbell was hurt on the play, AO wasn’t.
if anything, AO catches campbell kind-of-on-the-back, kind-of-on-the-shoulder (the side angle shows both of soupy’s numbers) while adams delivers the shove directly to AO’s #8. i’ll just post my opinion and then back slowly away:
AO was given a 5-minute penalty and a game misconduct. his team went down a man for 5 minutes AND his team’s best player was on the shelf for the rest of the game. this is why penalties were created, to penalize. i would have thought suspensions were for plays that go above and beyond a typical penalty—in this case a boarding penalty—to show intent or malice. in my view, this was absolutely a boarding penalty, even a major boarding penalty because of soup’s injuries. but the suspension doesn’t jive with everything else i’ve been seeing from the league office.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 15, 2010 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Campbell being injured, and the severity of his injuries
are the reason ovechkin got suspended. If campbell would’ve gotten up and played later in the game, I don’t think ovechkin would’ve been suspended.
I’m not saying that is right or wrong, I’m just saying that’s why.
Caps fans should be glad Ovi got suspended. He’ll get a couple games to rest which will help considering he didn’t get much olympic break rest. The Caps are going to end up the top seed in the East and will end up with the President’s Trophy, this suspension really shouldn’t matter for them.
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it's not about whether or not the Caps will suffer w/o him, you see
Some Caps fans are worried about him losing the Art Ross Trophy, because it’s his legacy as a player to collect as many of them as he can, and that’s why playing minus 2 more games in the regular season could very well put this “legacy” of his in jeopardy.
Ignoring, of course, the OTHER legacy he’s leaving behind that’s the cause of his suspension to begin with.
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by chiblackhawks on Mar 15, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
forgive us for wanting our player to win awards. either way, that’s not the type of stuff i’d be spouting on a hawks blog. as to his legacy…at this point, people are going to think what they want to think about ovechkin the player. i’m glad he’s on the caps, but i’m not here trying to convince you he’s clean (“only smaller/turned players” i took exception to)…i think the suspension itself and the handling by the league is interesting and worthy of discussion.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 15, 2010 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
of course
just as you’ll forgive us for wanting our players to play a full season.
I’ve tried my best to distance myself from the debate on the suspension as well as the handling, so I’m sorry if you aren’t getting more from me than that. I’m angry that we’re losing Campbell for the season and it’s the only thing I really care about at the moment.
Eventually I’ll be willing to listen to counter-arguments, but having people on your side bring up arguments like “Well if this person didn’t get suspended, why should he?” and “He better not lose the Art Ross this year!” severely undermines the situation, in my view. There are better things to point out than those, bigger issues than one player. To me it doesn’t seem like some Caps fans and Ovi apologists (and Ovi himself) have yet to learn that.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on Mar 15, 2010 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Perspective is severely lacking with Cap fans
Their division is sewn up. Their #1 seed in the conference is practically guaranteed. And they have a 5 pt lead in the President’s trophy race.
However wrong/right Cap fans and other fans believe the suspension is the fact remains its 2 measly games.
My top-4 defenseman is done for the regular season.
Shitty situation here, but I think we have the right to be emotional and irrational when some caveman brute alters our season and Stanley Cup hopes, and their fanbase cries about a potential lost Art Ross Trophy.
Stanley Cup>Art Ross
This is an emotional cheap shot, but I see many Cap fans still fail to prioritize their trophy desires and whine more about Norris and Hart trophy snubs over possessing a gorgeous Stanley Cup.
the only thing i wanted to add is that commenters at japers’ rink just like to discuss things. that’s why there’s so goddamn many of us. we’ll debate anything, and we’re looking for new opinions. any discussion of AO’s suspension (which i thought was the subject of this post) is not meant to make light of campbell’s injury, which is obviously a blow to the hawks.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 16, 2010 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, you're right
I enjoy hovering at Japers’ due to that fact. This is a topic that hits home though. Although I tried to be objective yesterday, I couldn’t get myself to comment and I left rather bitter. Stuff like “He was milking it” even after the extent of his injuries was announced. It doesn’t matter whose team he plays for. He’s a person. I just hate the blaming the victim stuff.
I thought PPP did a pretty good job of keeping things real. JP is a hands on moderator and controls the quality of content there very well, but it was clear yesterday that he really wasn’t open to outside perspectives on the topic, so there was less “discussion” than normal. Just look at how Bushwood Bushwhacker got bushwacked (say that 10 times fast). I guess it’s just one of those topics that’ll remain a hot potato for a while.
All will be forgiven after we win the SC though ;)
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 16, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
of note, bushwood bushwhacker doesn’t have a shining history on the site and maybe isn’t given the same leeway as other commenters. but i do see where you’re coming from. the dialog of AO as a victim of the canadian media, of colin campbell, etc., has also been building with caps fans for a long time…to the point that we used to joke about it, but now you’ll see some completely serious and pointed remarks. i should say, i don’t speak for all caps fans or all japers’ rink community members. i’ll be cheering for the hawks right through until the stanley cup finals. see you there.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 16, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
ditto!
and always appreciate your perspective
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 16, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
See you there?
You’re not beating the Penguins. Oh well, nice to dream though isn’t it?
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by red army line on Mar 18, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I think someone on here (sorry, I’ve read a bunch of blogs today and wouldn’t know where to begin to look for the comment) stated something along the lines of “If losing one player costs us winning the SC this year, then we were in trouble anyways”. (That’s how I recollect the jest of it) Douchenozzle, I say to that. I think we still have just as good a chance as any other team to win this year, but this really throws us “into the mix” so to speak. Although nothing is ever guaranteed, the playoffs will now be an all out scrum. I’d say we’re probably still in a little bit better position than last year, but we won’t be surprising anyone either this time around.
These guys work their whole lives to be in this position and many great players, and teams, never won the cup. Our fan base too has invested years of emotion, money, heartbreak, time, etc to have a chance like we do this year – almost 50 years of it – and it may have been taken away with one completely unnecessary push (and yes people, it was a push – not finishing a check – a push from behind when a player was in a vulnerable position).
I’m not saying that Ovechkin’s push was any more or less “dirty” than other examples. Ultimately, I don’t freakin’ care. I can’t stop people from saying what they will, but it is incredibly insulting to hear comments like “Campbell should have braced for the hit”, “If it wasn’t for Campbell’s toe pick…”, “Campbell turned…”, “Ovi’s just so big and strong”, “Ovi might not win this or that award”, “But so-and-so didn’t get a suspension”. Ugh. Blame the victim. Sympathize with and make excuses for the perpetrator of the crime. A lot of people really missed the point on this one. I’m not saying it was all of them, but it was a vast majority of Caps fans.
I just wonder how they would be handling this situation if it were reversed? I’d gladly take the terribly unfair 2 game suspension. But hey, it’s hockey right? Shit happens. It’s apparently just part of the game.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 16, 2010 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
it was MPH73
And the quote was:
He is a loss, but if this loss keeps them from at least returning to the conference finals, they were already missing something more than just Campbell.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 16, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
thanks
I’m gonna have to start calling you Brit! (for Britannica)
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 16, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I should clarify
I wasn’t calling MPH73 a douche-nozzle, I was using it in the sense of “Poppycock, I say” to the quote. (sorry MPH) Someone else stated my feelings on this, but basically the road to the SC is tough and many series are won by inches, not miles – and Campbell could be that difference-maker.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 16, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
it was on Yahoo
…along with “Campbell sucks anyway” and a bunch of other garbage, and more apologetic crap from Wysh and others.
I agree that there have been a lot of insulting comments. I expect that kind of ignorance from random bloggers (“Campbell was milking it” “it was just little push on the shoulder”) but it absolutely disgusts me that Ovechkin, Boudreau, and others in a position of influence are crying foul.
Ovie basically says that he didn’t deserve a suspension because he didn’t intend to injure Campbell, and Boudreau’s comments were very tasteless as well.
Why is everyone defending a hit that was late, from behind, and in a dangerous location? Ovechkin was penalized for a reckless decision. The intent and the results should not be an issue here, much less all of the other crap excuses that people are throwing around.
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well i’ll say that i think it’s wrong. just absolutely the wrong precedent. whether a guy stays down or gets up, whether a guy stays in the game or leaves the game, has nothing to do with how dangerous/dirty/illegal the hit itself was. i think it lets the refs and campbell off the hook from being explicit about right & wrong on the ice. and it creates situations where guys (alex burrows?) will stay down on the ice in order to draw the game misconduct.
btw, i’m not disagreeing with you. the injury IS the reason, from my perspective. it’s the clear difference between AO’s hit on campbell and all the other boarding penalties around the league that went without suspensions. but the league would never admit it, and as a hockey fan i’d rather the league change its philosophy.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 15, 2010 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
How about double minors when you draw blood?
It might not be the ideal way, but I think to penalize based on results is a clear way to discourage dangerous plays. Sure, you’d like to do it based entirely on intent or bad decision-making but the fact of the matter is that those are often subjective. The injury is the thing that everyone can agree happened.
In general though, I said this before this happened and while I felt a little awkward saying it since I don’t want to play out the role of the bandwagoner as somebody who wants to come in and clamor for changes in the sport, I think it’s probably a valid point — hard play is fine, but dangerous play that could result in serious injury should always be penalized regardless of intent. You can make tons of comparisons to other sports, but you want players to be mindful of that possibility. That’s how you draw the line between playing hard and playing reckless.
Wow, great insight
That completely dismantles the complaint about Ovie being penalized due to “the results”. The precedent already exists.
On that note but a different one, how about double minors when you draw blood from a player with stitches in his face? (as was the case on Sunday) That was bull and led to the extended 5 on 3.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 16, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
ahh…i should’ve read your comment before adding mine. it’s beside the point i think—because re-opening stitches COULD affect a ruling, which is the point both of us were making—but in the case of semin on saturday the blood was actually drawn from his chin, not his pre-existing lip wound. i assumed at first that he had been re-opened, but NBC shockingly gave us a good view of semin’s face on the bench, and you could see the new cut on his chin.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 16, 2010 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Ahhh
I didn’t notice that. I thought the blood on his chin had dripped from his lip. OK then. My bad.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 16, 2010 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
btw
if you haven’t seen it, a much more rigorous debate on all things AO/dirty on today’s front page of japers’. james mirtle and some PPP regulars stop by to give the non-homer POV. i wish i had been around for the meat of the debate, but oh well. one of the editors of the caps site, stephen pepper, also gave a pretty concise description of the play from a caps fan’s viewpoint—at least the one that most closely coincides with mine—on yesterday’s SBN rink side radio segment. sorry, i understand if you’d just rather move on from the whole thing, but thought i’d provide the links anyway for anyone curious.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 16, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks
I’ll check it out later (I know your comment section can be like reading War and Peace)
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 16, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
indeed. 1000+ remarks. i’d recommend skipping to all comments by J.P., PPP, Down Goes Brown, James Mirtle, Fehr & Balanced, Knee High to a Duck, Gould Old Days and D’ohBoy (the last two are well-respected Japers’ Rink commenters that basically echo the sentiments of alpo above re: perspective). will save you a lot of time, especially since points get repeated. i honestly think the screenshots are completely unfair and bogus, and i say that every time still frames are used in these types of arguments—we actually had a guy trying to convince everyone that brashear’s hit on betts last year was completely clean and not late using a series of stills—but otherwise i think Chemmy makes some good points, too.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 16, 2010 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
i have issues with raising the penalty due to blood, also. see semin’s previously cut lip in sunday’s game as an example of how luck/circumstance could factor into the penalty, when really a bloody lip in that event might have told us nothing of the severity/illegality of the high sticking foul.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 16, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions
It might not be the ideal way, but I think to penalize based on results is a clear way to discourage dangerous plays.
in light of that crazy-ass figure-four leglock that steve downie pulled on crosby, i disagree that penalizing based on results is effective at discouraging dangerous plays. it’s the guys that don’t wind up injuring someone and get off scot-free for obviously malicious acts that ruin the system and work against this mode of deterrence, in my view.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 16, 2010 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, sorry if I didn't make that clear
I have to agree with you on that. I mean, a headhunter in baseball is thrown out even when the batter doesn’t get take one in the noggin… should work the same way here.
I can not completely agree with your example.
One of my favorite players from MLB is Nolan Ryan, and he would have a lifetime suspension by todays rules.
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by burpchelischili on Mar 16, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
it’s an imperfect system, obviously, but i’d prefer the refs on the ice have the discretion to decide what’s a major and what’s a minor in these circumstances (or what’s a minor and what’s a double minor, whichever the case may be). i understand why refs themselves DON’T want that freedom—they’d rather have a clear, objective marker like “is there blood” or “is there a head injury” to make their jobs easier. it’s the same reason the NFL did away with the distinction between 5- and 15-yard penalties on facemasks depending on the severity. refs on the field didn’t want to make those calls. still…even in the NFL, personal fouls, celebration penalties, etc., are highly subjective and left to the discretion of the guys on the field. you can’t write a rule that perfectly defines a personal foul without leaving it vague enough for the refs to actively interpret it.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 16, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions
but isn't that the point?
it was a dangerous play AND the player got hurt.
OK , Checked em all out
And from your examples I should have added “and some big slow guys standing around or backing up”, my bad.
ovechkin on phaneuf.
ovechkin on gautier.
i could do this all day, so i’ll stop. but ovechkin doesn’t shy away from contact from anyone.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 15, 2010 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Lost cause
Sorry Natty. I really don’t believe you’re going to convert any Hawk fans with Campbell out for the season. Certainly not today. Check back in a month or two or after Ovechkin is swept off the ice after someone labels him from behind. Other than that, you seem like a nice person.
no worries. i strike where i think i can make a difference….in the case of “AO’s a bully and he only picks on smaller guys/ when guys don’t know he’s coming,” i thought it was cut & dry enough that i could make the point.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 15, 2010 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha Phaneuf
Got his clock cleaned and then came back for more and got stood up again. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.
by HungryHungryPanda on Mar 15, 2010 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
sigh
“Alex pushed [Campbell]. He pushed him,” Caps coach Bruce Boudreau told The Washington Post on Monday. "If he doesn’t fall awkwardly into the boards, a) Is it a penalty? b) Are we having this discussion? … Alex is so much stronger than everyone else. So we’re penalizing him for being strong.
“I was so upset for him. I told [McPhee], ‘I can’t tell him.’ I feel so bad for the guy. All he wants to do is play hockey and play the game hard.”
I don’t even know where to begin in picking this apart. I usually see two sides to everything, but this time, no. And the fact that anyone is trying to place part of the blame on Campbell is completely absurd. The hit was reckless and unnecessary, and Ovechkin’s deserving of the suspension.
Also, that he feels bad for Ovechkin is laughable. Is he worried about protecting his ego? Pretty sure he, of all people, can handle it.
He's not being penalized for being strong
He’s being penalized for being reckless. There’s a difference.
In baseball terms, not all headhunters are flamethrowers. They’re being penalized for being reckless, not throwing hard. The issue with AO is that he’s both supremely strong and reckless.
by HungryHungryPanda on Mar 15, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't expect...
…anything else from the Caps. They are trying to protect their guy and rationalize his actions anyway they can dream up.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
If he's that much stronger than everyone else,
he needs to have that much more control.
by Katherine215 on Mar 16, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions
exactly
can you imagine that argument in court on a domestic battery case?
“your honor, my client’s wife had every opportunity to run away, but she couldn’t break his grip on her wrist. it’s not his fault that he’s that much stronger than her.”
Why... Why are you never funny?
yeah, that would go over well
I’m sure when Zdeno Chara lifts his stick to his waist he has managed to high stick someone a time or two. Should he get off because he’s taller than everyone else? No., He has to control his stick and make adjustments, Ovechkin should too.
by Katherine215 on Mar 16, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
IF
I wish everyone that is trying to explain away or rationalize this bullshit play by Ovechkin would stop with the “IF this thing had happened” or "IF this thing hadn’t happened " comments.
The ONLY thing that matters is what DID happen, and that is, he committed a reckless and dangerous act, that could and should have been avoided, and it resulted in the serious injury of another player.
And this wasn’t the first time it’s happened. This is now the, what, third, fourth, fifth time he’s been the perpetrator of this type of play? The NHL rules are pretty clear that multiple infractions of this kind result in suspensions of increasing length.
I really don’t think he’s being made an example of in any way. He’s simply reaping the harvest of the type of player he has decided to be in this league.
non se•qui•tur (nŏn sěk'wĭ-tər, -tŏŏr')
n. 1. An inference or conclusion that does not follow from the premises or
evidence.
2. A statement that does not follow logically from what preceded it.
Ovechkin has a long end of season coming
If I was a Caps fan, I would hope they rested him for a lot of the remaining games. The more he is out there with his “Romanowski” type rage, the more chance there is for someone to end it.
I don’t think there are too many 220lb NHL players that will back down from a confrontation with Ovechkin. I think if Seabrook or Ladd see him again this year, which would be a good thing for Hawks fans…….., Ovechkin will be in for a good fight, and I don’t mean fisticuffs. Seabrook and Ladd are the only Hawks that take care of business physically all the time. Eager tries, but some of his connections loose. Burish no. Fraser, no. Buff, no. Brouwer, maybe.
Obviously Toews plays hard and physical all the time as well, but his strategy would be to just control and beat Ovechkin. He can and will accomplish his goal, but at the same time I want Seabrook to knock Ovechkin’s ugly ass face through the back of his head. Make him spend the summer sipping from a straw with Lilja type injuries. Try that drag move on Kieth while Toews and Seabrook are out there, I dare you.
Game one CHi – CAPS will be awesome if it happens. I can’t wait.
Come on Hawks get it rolling for Campbell. He deserves it. He got you this far, now somebody step up and finish it if not for yourself, then for him.
My rant is now over. On to the next game
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
"Come on Hawks get it rolling for Campbell."
Someone going to the Anaheim game asked for ideas for signs. I told her to make one that says “WIN ONE FOR THE GINGER.” (Originally she wanted the exact phrase but I protested, seeing as to how Soupy’s hardly on his deathbed.)
She says she’ll try to take a photo of it.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on Mar 16, 2010 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lowen-Brouw can kick some ass
He beat the living fuck out of that guy who took Kaner down right before the Olympics. I have to say that since his game started getting better late last year (his nickname is no longer ohmygodohmygodohfuck!) he is becoming one of my favorite players.
by Cristobal the Cat on Mar 16, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Through all of "it"...
I haven’t seen too many people upset about the thing that pissed me off the most.
Mike Milbury LAUGHED about the fact that Campbell got hurt. Milbury was supposedly a defenseman, he should know how dangerous and dirty a play like that, in that part of the ice, can be. How the fuck can NBC keep him on the air?
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by burpchelischili on Mar 16, 2010 8:43 AM CDT reply actions
He's a fool
The guys on VS last night did a good job. Keenan even said some good things even though he stammered through most of his comments.
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
It’s sad how happy I was to see Versus last night.
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by burpchelischili on Mar 16, 2010 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Versus studio guys were really good last night
I can’t believe I’m saying it, but all three analysts were very solid (Keenan’s stammering aside). It just goes to show that Milbury and McGuire are entertainers, not analysts. Milbury, especially, is not an analyst and I think he knows it. Whatever keeps the NBC paychecks coming, and I can’t believe they keep coming.
As an aside, I’m watching the NJ/BOS game right now on the DVR and holy shit Brodeur is amazing. His assist on that second goal was unreal.
by HungryHungryPanda on Mar 16, 2010 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Broduer had one hell of a game last night, but my second team is the Islanders, so I was kind of pulling for the Meteor in that one.
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by burpchelischili on Mar 16, 2010 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Milbury was great for the Islanders
Should the hire him back?
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
In light of Samfels post before this...
No, no they should not. Maybe the Capitals could use him.
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by burpchelischili on Mar 16, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions
We're talking about the same guy
who didn’t get in trouble for calling the Russian game “Eurotrash”. Nothing surprises me.
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
Milbury...
…is trying way to hard to be Don Cherry like.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Please never compare the two.
Cherry is can sometimes be categorized as a Canadian Redneck but always has the players best interests in mind like the no-touch icing and his recent views on headshots and that’s it’s about time to get rid of them and punish severely.
Milbury is just a fucking idiot who runs his mouth that has never spoken a word worth listening to.
Big difference between the two.
"The Golden Goal! And Canada has - once in a lifetime - Olympic Gold!"
Congratulations to The Golden Boys- Toews, Seabrook, and Keith- for delivering the GOLD to CANADA.
Let's see
Cherry: Canadian, Milbury: American
You do realize the Olympics are over, right??
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 16, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
He’s right about Cherry. He loves the rough stuff, but the only types of injuries he finds acceptable are self-inflicted (like a guy breaking his hand on another guy’s skull).
I can’t imagine Cherry laughing at the Ovie hit. I’ll be interested to see Coach’s Corner on Saturday…shit, I won’t be in Canada anymore.
Why... Why are you never funny?
Ha! I totally forgot about that angle.
I have disagreed with many of Don Cherry’s opinions throughout his years on “Coach’s Corner”, but in the end he often makes reasonable arguements and thoughts (see this weekend on Matt Cooke and headshots). His thoughts are always with the players and is always willing to adjust his views on various topics.
Milbury is still stuck in the 70’s when it was O.K. to run into the stands and beat someone with their shoe, and his views continuously re-iterate that. I can’t remember ever agreeing with any of his views other than telling the bigger idiot, Glenn Healy, to shut up or knock him down after one of his ridiculous thoughts ( “Probably only 30 people watched the Gold Medal Game”). It’s extremely rare that he ever makes sense and is completely annoying to everyone. 90% of the time.
"The Golden Goal! And Canada has - once in a lifetime - Olympic Gold!"
Congratulations to The Golden Boys- Toews, Seabrook, and Keith- for delivering the GOLD to CANADA.
Fully agree!!!
My comparison was meant more as Milbury seeking the same level as Cherry from an “attention” standpoint.
I agree the dude is an idiot.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
I'm American through & through - but a big Cherry supporter
and I think Milbury is almost as off target as McGuire.
Cherry likes hard nosed old-fashioned North American hockey a bit more than I (I am a fan of having a lot more of that high talent finesse based Euro-style mixed in), but he at least wants all his mayhem toe – to – toe instead of from behind.
Did Bruce Boudreau get hired at a Lambs Farm career day?
This quote is from: http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=4997843&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines
“Brian Campbell is one of the best skaters in the National Hockey League,” Boudreau said. "If he thought danger was coming, and he saw Alex right behind him, he would have moved. I think he was trying to spin away and the spin didn’t work, and he got caught in the ice and he fell into the boards.
Now I know we’re all trying to avoid name calling but if this comment is any indication of Boudreau’s general intelligence level, he is a retard. I know Campbell busts out the spin-o-rama more than most players but blaming Campbell is completely off base and just low class (which is indicative of most people who live in the DC area).
by Cristobal the Cat on Mar 16, 2010 9:17 AM CDT reply actions
Someone should show him the damn replay
before he runs his stupid mouth anymore.
I get trying to protect/defend your player but to try and blame it on the guy he badly injured is ludicrous. Take the two games, be glad it isn’t more, and shut the hell up.
by Katherine215 on Mar 16, 2010 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions
I guess he forgot about Campbell's ability to fly too
because he could’ve just soared to safety as well. Stupid Campbell!
I liken this to: “Well, officer, his face ran into my fist. It’s not my fault.”
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
One of my all time favorite,
“He just ran into my knife.”
“Sir, he was stabbed 37 times, in the back!”
“Well, I guess he ran into it more than once. I don’t know what he was thinking…”
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by burpchelischili on Mar 16, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Boudreau is thinking: "why didn't campbell activate the rockets on his skates
similar to those on Will Ferrell’s skates in Blades of Glory?"
by Cristobal the Cat on Mar 16, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Ovechkin is strength is to blame? Really?
That’s why he’s injuring other players? This is so ridiculous. I would label Ovechkin as a guy with a reckless style of play. He makes hits when he sees an opportunity and doesn’t have that filter in his brain to hold him back from hitting someone when an injury risk is at its highest.
"Another successful interaction with a man!" - Liz Lemon
He doesn't see that he did anything wrong
That is the worst part. He didn’t want to end Campbell’s season, but he wanted him out of that game. There is no other reason for hits like that. Watch Toews. He hits, but with the intention to separate the player from the puck. These type of hits, like Kronwall, are just unnecessary. This is what prevents hockey from being understood and enjoyed by more people.
Crazy 8 needs his ass handed to him, as I’ve said several times.
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
I for one don't really see strength as a valid excuse
but I mean, what’s different between before and now? They say he put on 20lbs of muscle on his upper body. He needs to learn to control it better sometimes.
Cидни Kросби: Александр Oвечкин, он твой папа теперь
Capitals Coming: for Capitals fans no more intelligent than myself
by red army line on Mar 16, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
I know..
He’s a strong player but it’s not like he’s a man among boys out there. Like he’s a freaking giant and just trounces people in his tracks.
He’s an incredibly skilled but incredibly dirty hockey player, and that’s it.
oh, but he is a freaking giant
he’s not Chara’s height, but he’s pure muscle, and he seems to have a greater ability to explode with his strength than most skaters.
Why... Why are you never funny?
Make sure to record Leno tonight.
The Blackhawks will be making an appearance. Will be the first and only time I record/watch that crap show.
"Another successful interaction with a man!" - Liz Lemon
Are you serious?
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Jesse Rogers said they'll probably be there as audience members
but a Hawks rep (quoted by Sassone?) said they’re trying to get more out of it. We’ll see.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 16, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not looking for anyone to get hurt
but the guys who live by the sword, well you know. I hope Natty stops by then too.
Lalonde Assigned To Rockford
….They wouldn’t would they?
Noone is calling Lalonde tyler myers or anything right? for the love of nick boynton.
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
Source link please?
I couldn’t find it on the IceHogs site
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 16, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Try the Hawks' site
Bulls’ season is over and it’s Lalonde’s last year in the juniors, so this makes perfect sense.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on Mar 16, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
True
thanks Chi
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 16, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
i'm confused
is Lalonde’s assignment to Rockford a good thing or a bad thing? It seems like it should be a good thing.
by Cristobal the Cat on Mar 16, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
assignment
it’s the same thing they did with beach and aliu last season (which they f’ed up by getting kicked off the team and sent home). when a player’s junior/college season is over they can assign them to the minor league team on an “amateur try-out” contract.
i would imagine that once spokane is eliminated that beach would be assigned there as well. but that may not be a given since aliu was recently sent down to toledo (echl). there may not be enough room for extra forwards. it’ll be interesting to see if some of the college guys who are done go there (sweatt, leddy) too.
also, these assignments (as long as they are under the amateur status) don’t start the clock on their entry-level deals. so even though lalonde (and i think beach) signed their 3 year deals earlier this year the clock doesn’t start on those until the fall.
Daydream Nation on Sportscenter
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
Thanks Wads
The video didn’t show up for me. I’m on FF. Can anyone see it?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 16, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
viewed it through Chrome
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 16, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks all
Believe it not, I learned something educational at Winging It in Motown yesterday (there are of course some really good commenters there). A lot of people were saying that Google Chrome kicks FF’s butt. Do you find this to be true?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 16, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I've found no real difference
Chrome is slightly faster though.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on Mar 16, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Chrome also works better
on my piece of shit home computer, so I think it uses less memory or something.
In case you care.
by Katherine215 on Mar 16, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
haha!
actually, piece of shit is the PC version of what I’ve called it. It’s really time to invest in a new one, but hard to justify when I mainly only use it to go on the internet.
by Katherine215 on Mar 16, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Netbooks
There are some fairly inexpensive “netbook” laptop computers designed pretty much just for surfing the net.
I've thought about it
I’m still undecided. I keep hoping it will make a miraculous recovery when I’m not looking.
by Katherine215 on Mar 16, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I just got an Acerlaptop at BBuy for 350
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by burpchelischili on Mar 16, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
I’m not too familiar with Acer – is that a good brand?
by Katherine215 on Mar 16, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Not bad
I prefer not to buy the desktop version, cause they are near impossible to upgrade. I got a wireless modem, carying case, mouse, and the laptop for 400 total though. All I plan on doing on it is playing old games, (like Civ3), and chatting here during Hawks games, so it was a great price.
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by burpchelischili on Mar 16, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks
that is really good to know. I think I’m going to have to cave and do it pretty soon.
by Katherine215 on Mar 16, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
lol,
My brother is the techno geek that made me do it. I have been wavering on buying one for a year or so, he called me up and told me “Go forth young idiot.”
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by burpchelischili on Mar 16, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
My friends will probably kill me
if I don’t get one soon. Apparently, all I do is bitch about the worthlessness of my current one. :)
by Katherine215 on Mar 16, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
We are always the last to know just how whinny we have become.
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by burpchelischili on Mar 16, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
My parents
actually bought an Acer netbook… it was cheap, and I think it gets the job done but does feel a little cheap (the “3” key just broke on it).
I got an Asus netbook last year on a friend’s recommendation that it and MSI were the best netbook manufacturers at the time, and it’s been really good (for travel, especially airplanes since I fly NY-Chicago a lot). It’s a little more expensive but some of their models might have had some price cuts more recently.
Also, after my main laptop got stolen from my apartment in September, I managed to find an HP 16" laptop for $350 — it’s great for everything except for gaming, which I do much less of these days (heck, I never played Civ3… I gave Civ2 a stab last year though!).
Civ2 had the best advisors, but Civ3 is far better playing to me.
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by burpchelischili on Mar 16, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Put down the computer and back away from the Civ
I stopped playing Civ2 a couple of years ago, but you two are making me itch. Between this bad habit and that, I’d be unbathed, unemployed, unmarried – a lot of un’s.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 16, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Already unemployed, and I am a facebook widower, so I watch the Hawks and Holmes on homes, and I play civ3, Alpha Centari, and I just found 7 Cities of Gold that I played on my C-64 in the 80’s.
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by burpchelischili on Mar 16, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha!
I just get to watch H on H nowadays, but have all the TV toys like Wii, Xbox, etc (I use the excuse they’re for the kids)
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 16, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
How'd I miss this?
I need things rec’d so I can see them, haha.
I like Civ 4, haven’t played since I got this new puter though, haven’t loaded it yet. Plus it’s like the only game I never win.
2009 SCH Post Whore
2010 Troll Collector
SCH's Resident Mom
I bought 4, but I wasn’t that impressed.
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by burpchelischili on Mar 17, 2010 6:53 AM CDT up reply actions
it is blocked for me at work
but for some reason this link works
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
I thought I had put this to rest
but alas, not yet.
Keith: Hey Biscuit, I took the homemade potpourri you made for Soupy to the hospital.
Seabs: Oh Dunky, you are the best!
K: I know how much this upset you.
S: Duncs, it coulda been you!
K: Here’s a tissue, blow your nose.
S: We should have taken him out in the Olympics when we had the chance.
K: Now, now, Biscuit, who knew it would come to this.
S: But Dunky, this is devastating. (sobs into his kleenex)
K: Baby, we’ll just have to play harder.
S: I just can’t help it, if it were you, I’d be lost… and benched.
K: Don’t forget about the Norris, babe.
S: I sure hope he taught you that spin-o-rama move already, you’re so cute out on the ice when you move like that.
K: Stop crying Biscuit, we’ll win it all for the Ginger.
S: Ok Dunky! You really know how to make me smile in the face of adversity!
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by Trixietrx on Mar 16, 2010 10:27 AM CDT reply actions 6 recs
I'm wiping tears from my eyes
Emmy Daytime Comedy Drama winner, for sure!
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on Mar 16, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Win one for the ginger...
Trixie, you should make a job out of this. These are always great!
"Another successful interaction with a man!" - Liz Lemon
Please warn me
so I don’t read this stuff at work. I’m trying not to bust out laughing while I’m supposed to be prepping for a meeting!
I’m going to start calling my bobblehad Dunky.
Very cool!
I’m actually tempted to invest…
by Katherine215 on Mar 16, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
My favorite line...
S: I just can’t help it, if it were you, I’d be lost… and benched.
I love these!
by Katherine215 on Mar 16, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Hendry, maybe
Lalonde, probably not. I’d be surprised if Lalonde sees any playoff time. If the hawks hadn’t traded for Johnsson, the current powerplay situation may have warranted rushing Lalonde up.
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
was mostly just pipe-dreaming
as what i’ve seen of the kid in the ‘O’ looked real good. Also, just kinda hoping what Johnsson is nursing doesn’t get worse with the added work he’s going to get now that 51 is done.
by Kevin Kujawa on Mar 16, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Semin made a similar play against Boyle in the Olympics
Remember Boyle slew foot him afterward?
I added Semin to my most hated player list because of this and the cross check to Niemi. Not only did he run Niemi, but he crossed him in the face. These guys (Semin and 8) are shitheads. L like the scar that semin has now on his face. There will be more.
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
I don't think there are videos of the semin hit on boyle
but I don’t remember it being nearly as dangerous as ovechkin’s hit on campbell. Semin’s hit wasn’t from behind, it was a little late and Boyle was a few feet from the boards, but I don’t equate the two plays.
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
Correct
Certainly not as bad. BUT late and at the boards. Shithead stuff. Losing a game 7-3 late in 3rd period.
The two of them can get to know eachother, if you know what I mean.
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
disagree
i’m going to have to disagree on the semin hit. here’s the hit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y_L2iR7VZA
semin hits boyle from the side as boyle’s releasing the puck. that was a clean hit in my book and boyle acted like a douche-nozzle afterwards.
Well you are wrong
It was late and it was high and it was unnecessary, exactly what I’m talking about.
That game was over. There was no reason and no purpose for that. It is meathead hockey. If that was an NHL game, Semin would have gotten his ass kicked more than once.
However, Boyle should have just beat his ass. The slew foot is dangerous as well.
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
I don't see the late part
Boyle is getting rid of the puck and gets hit. 38 second mark, chest/shoulder-on-shoulder and Boyle is actually ducking out of the way. Not high, I don’t think.
Unnecessary? Yes.
Cидни Kросби: Александр Oвечкин, он твой папа теперь
Capitals Coming: for Capitals fans no more intelligent than myself
by red army line on Mar 16, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
how exactly?
how exactly was it late? boyle was in the process of passing the puck.
how exactly was it high? they hit shoulder to shoulder.
it was a check. a hard check. a clean check. he didn’t go for boyle’s head, he didn’t lead w/ an elbow, he didn’t leave his feet. i’m at a loss to see it. please let me know where in the video i should look (what time) to see what you see.
i don’t know semin from adam, but that was a clean hit.
before the hit
he received a high sticking penalty for something that occurred before the hit. if you watch the video the ref in the far corner’s arm is in the air before boyle even gets the puck. and canada maintains possession through semin’s hit and then out into the neutral zone.
if you watch at the 0:56 mark of the video they show the highlight of crosby going to hit semin and semin having is stick up, knocking off crosby’s helmet. that was being called before the hit on boyle. semin didn’t receive a penalty for the hit on boyle.
Boyton most definitely on his way
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/03/blackhawks-recall-defenseman-boynton.html
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
Boynton, too.
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
"Pappy" Boynton
Don’t know much about his hockey playing, but as a fighter pilot he sure put a world of hurt on those Japanese Zeros in WWII
I take it he cleared
the re-entry waivers? I think he can play on the right team, I’ve seen him play a little and can move the puck
As for everything else on the campbell hit and Ovie, I don’t think the Hawks are in trouble, I’m hoping that everyone else can just step up in his place. Maybe this makes Seabs get his head out of his ass? I have kept away b/c it’s discouraging and it hurts but far from the “sky is falling” shit..
Hockey is life! Lets go Hawks!
Opps
forgot to finish taht sentence
He can move the puck but I’ve seen him caught flatfooted a few times and sometimes moves pretty slow out of the zone. Maybe it was the crap teams? I’m not sure I dont know all that much about him, I’ve just seen him play a couple times so I guess we’ll see
Hockey is life! Lets go Hawks!
Totally unrelated to Ovechkin or anything else...
… but this made me laugh:
http://www.canucklehead.ca/look/from-cube-to-square.html#previous-photo
"Another successful interaction with a man!" - Liz Lemon
Heh
The picture is great, the responses make me shake my head.
Specifically Laura and the boyo that answered her.
I’ve lived in Chicago Heights, East St. Louis, and Compton. The only time I ever had a problem with gangs, was when I lived in Tulsa.
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on Mar 16, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
You probably never read the comment
but I apologize for disrespecting East St Louis… that was me being immature and um, well, those kinds of jokes are just better when a real place is involved.
Disrespect away,
the place I lived was widely refered to as “Crack Corner”
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on Mar 16, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Hawks released statement on Campbell
according to Jeff Marek. 7-8 weeks for clavicle and rib fractures. no surgery required.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
Which, if true,...
…would likely be mid-to-late WCF, according to my calculations.
Sooner than I would’ve guessed.
Depending on how long the first round takes
it could even be in time for some of the semi-final games, always assuming we make it that far, of course.
Ok, this isn’t horrible. He could come back at just the right time.
by Katherine215 on Mar 16, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Weird
The Hawks are practicing in Anaheim on Tuesday but defenseman Kim Johnsson (upper body) and goaltender Cristobal Huet aren’t on the ice.
Nick Boynton, who was recalled from Rockford of the American Hockey League to replace Campbell, is practicing and wearing No. 24
That Johnsson is still not practicing is a bit of a concern, although Hammer didn’t practice for about a month but still played on game days, so we’ll see. And what’s wrong with Huet?
He broke his stick after the PHI game
waiting for a new one
"All questions must be submitted in writing"
Maybe he's under the weather?
I hope that is all it could be.
by Katherine215 on Mar 16, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
oh, god
Adam Jahns of Sun-Times:
Take it for what it’s worth, but Byfuglien is practicing as a defenseman right now.
Guess we ARE that desperate.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 16, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't there tape of Buff as a Dman
that Q can watch??
by Katherine215 on Mar 16, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Nope,
the camera tends to follow the puck.
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on Mar 16, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
boom
yeah, such footage would be akin to the Zapruder film
by Hjammer of the Gods on Mar 16, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Would have been hilarious if Luongo had a helmet cam though…
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on Mar 16, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
they already made that movie
it was called Cloverfield
by Hjammer of the Gods on Mar 16, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Damnit!
Spit-take on the couch!
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on Mar 16, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I see three possibilities for what's wrong with Huet
1. Chokers choke (maybe on a pretzel? Or some cheese?)
2. He has the heart of a sheep
3. He is defended to the death by the media
So this is either a minor choking setback, a somewhat serious heart ailment, or the media stopped defending him and he died.
by HungryHungryPanda on Mar 16, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
1. Chokers choke (maybe on a pretzel? Or some cheese?)
2. He has the heart of a sheep
3. He is defended to the death by the media
So this is either a minor choking setback, a somewhat serious heart ailment, or the media stopped defending him and he died.
by HungryHungryPanda on Mar 16, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Weird
I wish I could blame it on a phone. My first post only showed up as the subject line, so that’s why I posted the body below it. It was supposed to be a joke based on that idiot post about Huet being a donkey or some stupid shit like that.
by HungryHungryPanda on Mar 16, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
3. He is defended to the death by the media
404: Media Defense Not Found
by Hjammer of the Gods on Mar 16, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Nice.
Truth + wittiness = rec’d
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
Jesus?
Hey, it’s me again. Look, about this Byfuglien playing defense thing…
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
And what’s wrong with Huet?
I’m sure there are a million people here that would be more than happy to answer that question for you
by Hjammer of the Gods on Mar 16, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Niemi in net tomorrow
Huet with the flu. Crawford will get called up.
From Chris Kuc.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
Sick with the flu huh?
That is NOT mentally tough
by Hjammer of the Gods on Mar 16, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
even germs get past the defense now.
by Scott13 on Mar 16, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Niiiice
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on Mar 16, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha! There's more Zingers today
than in a box of Dolly Madison’s.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 16, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Totally agree
Weird ain’t it? It looks like everyone chose to make lemonade out of the lemon we got handed. Let’s hope the Hawks do the same.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 16, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Even if they do get past the defense
Sometimes you need your goalie to stand on his head and stop those germs and right now Huet is not doing that. I dunno, sometimes I just don’t think he’s very mentally tough.
by HungryHungryPanda on Mar 16, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
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