Idea (Category - Pipe Dream)
The Olympics got me thinking about what elements of that tournament could be adopted by the NHL to capture some of the excitement that it brings.
One element that seems interesting is the fear of sudden death during the single elimination tournament. The Canadian players who had to go through the play in round compared it to having to win four consecutive Game 7's. I don't think it makes much sense to alter the NHL playoff format, but they are right that the sudden death tournament added to the excitement.
So why not scrap the All-Star game in favor of a mid-season single elimination tournament? I don't think this idea has a snowball's chance in hell, but it does make some sense in some ways. Explanation after the jump.
One likely complaint against scrapping the 5 day All-Star break is that for the non-All Star's you are eliminating their midseason break. Once you see my proposal you'll see that most teams are still getting just as long a break as they normally would (in many cases more), except for the final few teams that are playing to the end. That's not much different than what happens now where two full teams worth of players (in this case the league's superstars) are playing hockey over the 5 day break, while the rest of the league probably gets a 2-3 day vacation, once you factor in travel and practice. If the league were to instead feature a 10 day long single elmination tournament, they could still find a little time to give each team some extra days during the course of the season where even this year the Hawks took a 2 week break for the Olympics and still have had some extended breaks during the season. This is very doable.
The other negative issue is the locations/logistics. Especially at the beginning you're going to need someplace or places that can accomodate a large number of hockey games in a short amount of time and you're going to want to host the games someplace where there is enough fan interest to get some bodies in the seats.
So here's my suggestion, the NHL has 30 teams, or two conferences of 15. You give the top seed in each conference a first round bye, so that after the first round you're left with 16 teams (14 winners and 2 bye teams), and then you proceed from there. Let's say you start the tournament on a Friday in February and finish the following Sunday. Here's a sample breakdown:
Friday - Round 1, each conference's teams 2-15 play (14 games total, 14 losing teams get at least a 9 day break)
Sunday - Round 2, features all remaining teams (8 games total, 8 losing teams get at least 7 day break)
Tuesday - Round 3, features Round 2 winners (4 games total, 4 losing teams get at least a 4 day break)
Friday - Final 4 play
Sunday - Championship game
To accomodate for the extra games reduce the number of non-tourney regular season games from 82 to 80. Also, settle all tourney games by the same point awarding rules as any other regular season games. Sure, at the end of the season some teams will have won standings points because they played more games than other teams by winning games in the tourney, but that's the reward for winning in the tourney. By doing it this way the average number of games played for all teams will fall just under 82, which is comparable to what happens now.
Under this scenario, 26 of the 30 NHL teams will get at least a 4 day break, and 22 of those teams will get at least a 7 day break, so the bulk of the NHL players will still get a lot of mid-seaon rest. For the remaining 4 teams that play their way late into the tournament, they will have an opportunity to earn extra standings points that will make a large difference when it comes to trying to qualify for the playoffs and/or trying to earn home ice. And there's an incentive to try and win the tournament games because the reward comes in the form of very valuable standings points.
Also you could probably create some cool trophy with a cool name to award to the tourney winner.
I think that would be a lof of fun, at least as much fun as All Star weekend. You could still name an All Star team (which I thought they should have done this year) without having to play the game, there's no reason not to recognize the players. And I've got to think that this scenario would generate more revenue for the league than the All Star weekend does. You could still entertain all the same sponsors/bigshots that you do at the All Star game as you could at the final four weekend, only these games would matter.
Unfortunately it will never happen because 1) the NHL can't do anything right, 2) purists will whine, and 3) logistically it's hard to pull off. #3 is admittedly difficult. But they figured out a way to play hockey in Fenway Park and Wrigley Field, there's got to be a way to figure this out as well. I just wish it wasn't such a pipe dream, this would be a lot of fun.
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And I'll give you another idea
on the Saturday night of Championship Weekend, where Saturday is a rest day, play an exhibition of the Canadian women’s team against the US women’s team. The Olympics showed that those two teams are in a class by themselves and a reasonably fun game to watch. Or maybe you could feature a high end college game. Or the NHL skills competition.
I think......
No. The schedule is bad enough every 4 years, why have it suck every year.
The past is for cowards and fools....
I think most teams would rather take the extra days off and lose in the first round than try to pick up a few points in the standings.
Adding in points for wins here wouldn’t make sense because it would mostly be the teams at the top of the standings beating up on the guys at the bottom. Hawks Oilers first round would be an easy two points. It takes parity out of the schedule.
Part of the difference between the NHL and the Olympics is that the player pool is much smaller so we only see the top players in the world (with exceptions. See: Kopecky, Tomas). Adding in single elimination games won’t make up for the dilution of talent through 30 teams.
Well I mean look at the Olympics this year.
A lot of teams were worried about their players getting fatigued in the Olympics. Now imagine that was every player on the team. And to the victor go the spoils of having 26 teams get more rest than you over their normal break. All in the name of possibly picking up 2 more points. Plus, do we really need the standings getting any more complicated than they already are? Now we’d be adding points for games that don’t really count, but then again maybe they do, sorta.
by Original Six on Mar 7, 2010 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
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I’m not saying its a stupid idea. I really like it when people throw these kinds of hypothetical situations out there. I’m just playing devil’s advocate and toying with different formats of this in my head. Personally, I’d like to see some kind of World Cup type event to split the time between Olympics. Put it in July some time, keep # of teams low so not too many games are played and spread them out over a week or two so players can relax. Again, pipe dream.
by Original Six on Mar 7, 2010 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
I think you're right
that there will be some teams who would rather have the rest than 2 or 4 more points, but I think most of the teams will need/want the points more than the extra rest. I think the points would be enough of an incentive to get the teams to try, and if a few want to phone it in then I guess that’s up to them.
Along the same lines
Just heard on NHL TV that during the GM meetings, they were kicking around the idea of having a single elimination tourney at the end of the regular season for the eight spot in the playoffs. 8 v. 15, 9 v. 14, etc. It would probably never happen, but at least GMs are thinking along the same lines as you by at least pondering the idea of incorporating a single elimination tourney
i think
that would kick ass! It would make things very interesting… Almost every year there is that one bad team that goes nuts after the break and either just squeezes in or falls just short and those are the teams that usually shake up the playoffs… Especially when the sharks are the 1 seed.. haha!
Drink it up!
Plus, it could add a new dynamic to the trade deadline
If every team has a shot, then lower half teams will have to make a choice between dumping players for a chance to be competitive next year or actually adding a couple of pieces or standing pat for this year.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 11, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
That would be cool. Maybe for bubble teams like in March Madness, have the 7-8-9-10 play for those final spots.
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by red army line on Mar 14, 2010 4:17 AM CST up reply actions
But it would kill...
…any effort by lower ranked teams to get the 8th spot during the season. Bad idea, methinks.
Why not
just make it a two week break, and borrow from MLB, the winning team of the Mid-season tourney decides who gets home ice for the Stanley Cup. Have the teams play on their home ice, (you already have a travel day built in), and do not have the games effect any points. Instead of points, award a purse to each team based on how they did n the tourney. Even in todays economic climate, they could get sponsors for it, and each team picks one charity to play for. All winnings are donated with big paper checks after the last game at center ice.
You could give 30% to the winners charity, 15% to the second place, and a further break down to be decided by someone better with numbers than me. Even if there is only 10 million put up by sponsors, you are talking some serious jack for the last place teams charities .I doubt there are any players that would not be willing, or at least would be stupid enough to say so publicly.
Thoughts?
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on Mar 20, 2010 9:05 AM CDT reply actions

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