They Threw Me Out Of Church - Scum 5, Hawks 4
by McClure on Mar 7, 2010 3:48 PM CST
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If this were a Spinal Tap album, we could derisively call this one Shit Sandwich. This afternoon's middle frame is going to cause a great deal of hand wringing, gnashing of teeth, and for renewed sentiment to rename everyone's favorite side dish to "Freedom Fries", but we'll get to all that in a little while.
While the first period was fairly evenly played, the Hawks emerged with a 2-0 lead goals from Duncan Keith and then Andrew Ladd. Keith fired a shot from the left point that was redirected on its way in, and Ladd capitalized on a horrendous giveaway by Valteri Filppula in the circle to the left of Jimmy Howard which he snapped high over Howard's glove. While Scum did have a few stretches of prolonged possession in the Hawks zone, the vast majority of those chances came from the outside and were swallowed up by Cristobal Huet.
Then everything that could go wrong for the next 20 minutes of play did. Patrick Kane appeared to score on a Hawks power play which would have put them up 3-0 and we may have heard Alex Van Halen's jungle drum cadence softly in the distance. However, the goal was instantly waved off by referee Steve Kozari, explaining that Dustin Byfuglien interfered with Howard. Buff wasn't penalized, and the replay showed he did not touch Howard at all, but Toronto couldn't overturn it, and the game remained 2-0. Moments later, Tomas Holmstrom was actually penalized for interfering with Huet on an eerily similar play, but Dave Bolland was sent along with him for a tripping call. Understandably, both benches were pretty perplexed as to why the plays were called completely differently. Quickly into the 4-on-4, Keith's stick jumped up and whacked Johan Franzen in the mouth (though with his horse face, no one would really notice if there were any damage), and Scum when to work on the 4-on-3. Brian Rafalski fired one past Huet from the left point, and while Huet was slightly screened by Brent Seabrook, he was completely under-committed to the angle the shot came from. Nicklas Lidstrom followed suit from the right point on the subsequent 4-on-4 to tie the game, same story from Huet, except with the screen coming from Felon Bertuzzi. Jason Willams filled a gaping 6x4 after Huet whiffed on gloving a goal mouth pass from Jared Leto, and a bad pinch from Brian Campbell led to a 2-on-1 against Niklas Hjalmarsson who overcommitted to puck-carrier Bertuzzi, which gave Filppula a one-on-none with Huet after receiving the pass, and once again twine is tickled. At that point, with 22,000 strong seething with bloodlust, Quenneville gave Cris the hook. Antti Niemi didn't fare much better against Pavel Datsyuk, who converted a breakaway in the dying seconds of the frame after knifing the puck away from Patrick Kane just inside the Detroilet blue line. Forty minutes played, 5-2 Scum.
As per usual, the Hawks did indeed make a game out of it, with Ladd tallying his second early from Kim Johnsson on a shot from the right circle again, which gave the Hawks a definite spark. Reforming The Unholy Alliance of Toews, Kane, and Hossa on the top line to get something going, the Hawks dictated the majority of the play, with several prolonged periods of sustained pressure, forcing Howard to make a couple of key glove saves. Ladd would turn the trick with about eight minutes to go, redirecting a Keith shot that was the result of a clean faceoff won by John Madden. With the comeback flurry in full effect, the Hawks who saw the best chances were Marian Hossa and Tomas Kopecky on a sequence where Hossa picked up a rebound in the slot and skated to his right on his backhand trying to wait out Howard and ended up having no angle. He slid the puck back through the crease where Kopecky was out front waiting to whack it home, but his stick was tied up by the Scum defense to prevent the comeback from completing. A late-ish power play for the Hawks yielded nothing, and numerous attempts at pulling Niemi for the extra attacker were shot in the foot by offsides and icing calls. Hawks lose an ugly-ish one 5-4 to Scum. God. Dammit.
Observations
- To the torch-wielding mobs who have been calling for Huet's ouster, as well as those now questioning GM Stan Bowman's judgment on standing pat on this week's trade deadline, congratulations. This is clearly the excuse you needed to continue to sodomize this dead horse, and I hope it feels good feeling as though you're right- fuck knows I get off on being right on those rare occasions when I am. I have no defense for Huet's recent play, and today's showing is absolutely inexcusable. But it's these two goalies from here on out, whether we like it or not, so it's absolutely pointless to be complaining about it at this point, it's just verbal masturbation, almost to the point of actually enjoying seeing what happened today transpire. With everyone sounding the alarm that the goaltending is going to be this team's undoing, ask yourself this - would you rather see a parade in June, or be right about Huet? So have your catharsis in the comments here about today's game, but please, for the love of fuck, spare us from the relentless goalie "debate" over the next three days. It's one game.
- Dovetailing from the above statements, Cris was not alone during the meltdown. Tape of the play of all six d-men from the middle frame should replace waterboarding as the preferred form of torture for interrogation.
- It's SCH policy to not bus-toss officiating, but today's game was dogshit. From the inconsistency of the game-changing goaltender interference calls, to the non-calls on Bolland and Hossa getting roped down on seperate occasions to Howard's left in the third, to a couple iffy offsides calls, it was a sub-standard job by the zebras today.
- ....but that's not to say the Hawks could have done anything had those calls been made. The power play is still fucking clown shoes.
- Given the time left and the way the game had been going for the Hawks, Patrick Kane should have hauled down Pavel Datsyuk from behind as soon as he pick-pocketed him at the blue line and taken the penalty. Datsyuk was short of center when he first became all alone, which would have nullified a penalty shot being called. Take the two minutes going into the 3rd period and try to kill off the penalty.
- Speaking of Datsyuk, while it's excruciating to admit, as Lucky Pierre McGuire relentlessly pointed out, the guy is flat out fucking amazing with how he can separate the man from the puck with stick checking.
- Go get you some, Andrew Ladd. Not only were his three goals the primary source of offense today, but he nearly had a fourth later on in the same shift he tallied his third on another redirection, and he was an animal physically as well.
- Also in the physicality department, it appears that Hammer is feeling a little better, as he is once again initiating contact instead of just absorbing it, as evidenced by his massive check behind the Hawk net in the third period.
- With this performance coupled with their first stretch of consecutive off days with a full squad after the Olympic break, expect Coach Q to skate the boys' asses ragged, or at the very least verbally tear them up worse than a kleenex at a snot party.
While I normally prefer not to name a player of the game after a Hawk loss, Andrew Ladd's performance today definitely needs to be acknowledged.
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thank you kozari
You are in chris lee territory with tonights blown call circus you and leggo-mania did. The no-calls, bad calls and what proved to be game deciding call fall in your lap.
Although Huet is a sieve, and was sidetracked by yelling at you therein leading to his demise, you cost this team a game.
So does Mike Babcock swallow or you just making justice after our defense dumped one in on you and nearly took your head off.
Please don’t come back, and make sure when you head over to the hotel after the game Babcock swallows, because you know that’s what he promised, after all.
My dad taught me three thing at my first hockey game at age 5:
Always buy the Blue Line..
Dino [Ciccarelli] is a queen-o
Detroit Sucks!!
by notsince61 on Mar 7, 2010 4:06 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Even with a flawlessly officiated game
the Hawks still give up 5 goals. It’s kind of hard to blame the refs for costing the team the game when the Hawks really only have themselves to blame.
Its going to be interesting to listen to sports radio tomorrow
The City of Chicago is panicking right now
I missed the game so I cannot comment on how the play looked. The defense has been dropping the ball lately (I’m including Huet in that group).
One thing is fore sure, Huet will not be starting next year.
That's the reason I don't listen to Chicago sports radio
Too much Kool-Aid, not enough reason.
Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.
by russellguldin on Mar 8, 2010 7:31 AM CST up reply actions
They talk about how strong Detroit is in front of the net
and maybe there’s an element to truth to it, but when you make no effort to clear the guy out from in front of the net, it makes their advantage stronger. I’m not advocating the enforcer concept, but doesn’t somebody have to put a body on Bertuzzi on that second goal?
Of all the rules changes to increase scoring and shit, I rue most the neutering of the D's slot play
I rather liked the days of semi-gladiator contests out in front of the net. This new stuff, where you can’t even look crossly at opposing plays just blows.
Agreed.
It’s become the sole means of existence for turds like Holmstrom.
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." ~ Frank Sinatra
That dude's mom took a beaver in her beaver.
I mean, look at him.
He could chop down a tree with those choppers.
Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.
by russellguldin on Mar 8, 2010 7:32 AM CST up reply actions
The thing that struck me the most about the game
Was that after Dat-suck completely stole Kaner’s jock at the blueline with 7 seconds remaining and iced the game, Kane seemed to crumble. He passed on some shots in the 3rd that he normally would have buried, and seemed to treat the puck like it was a live grenade. Worst of all, it seemed as if Pouty Kane reared his baby faced mug again. Here’s hoping that it was just an aberration, and Kaner goes back to being the absolute beast he’s been the month previous.
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Are you really fucking serious?
Pouty Kane? Do us a favor and log out permanently.
I'm absolutely fucking serious.
Did you even watch the Hawks last year? Kane was called out on a couple of occasions for not hustling or backchecking. The Kaner in the 3rd period was eerily similar to the one that took all the shit at the beginning of last year. I would guess that it was because Datsyuk made him look pretty foolish.
But hey, you are clearly “some type of genius”, so I’m sure you already got that.
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I didn't think he looked pouty, but...
…he definitely looked “off” today. Given his, er, reputation lately, I won’t lie…I questioned whether he might not have been out too late last night. Not accusing, but certainly wondering.
by GenPabloSecobar on Mar 7, 2010 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
The only play you're referring to
Happened at the end of the second, not the third. Did you watch today’s game? Please point out something other than Pierre’s two “Kane should have shot earlier” comments.
Chill out illinikc33
The man’s entitle to his opinion, you’re entitled to yours, but there’s no reason to be rude when you disagree. I know it was a disheartening game; I insulted aeroplane for no reason on the GDT. Let’s try to keep tempers in check, though. This blog is only worth visiting because posters aren’t constantly telling the other idiots to just shut the fuck up.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
I sure did watch the game.
I was there in my seats as I usually am. I don’t know what Pierre was spouting today, but I’m sure it was a pile of shit as usual. I base my opinion on the action I saw on the ice, which NBC may have not shown. So try again, dude.
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by AirTrafficAJ on Mar 7, 2010 10:14 PM CST up reply actions
So you think that the play of Patrick Kane in the third period of today’s game was as good as his play from a week ago? I doubt I’m alone when I wonder if you watched yesterday’s game. He had two great opportunities to shoot and he passed instead. It looked like a lack of confidence to me.
Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.
by russellguldin on Mar 8, 2010 7:37 AM CST up reply actions
Blasphomy
I’m with the fighting illini, you cant fault Patty for trying to set up a play, he’s a play maker. If he hits Hossa with that pass it’s an easy goal. Granted I was screaming SHOOT when he had the lane to the net. Also, don’t insinuate that Kane was out drinking just bc he had an off night…you may not believe this, i sure as hell have a hard time!, but he is a 21 yr old human.
normally love your work AJ
but this comment is like a David Haugh comportment alert. The kid had a bad game, this isn’t a trend.
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
I'm so fucking sick
of hearing all the goalie bullshit. These guys are our two for the rest of the season, like it or not. They will have bad games. They will look like shit to the untrained eye when the defense completely shits the bed, as they did in the entire second period today. Here’s a news flash for everyone. WE’RE STILL IN SECOND IN THE CONFERENCE! So sit back, drink your Bud Light, wear your cheap knock-off Chinese jersey, SHUT THE FUCK UP, and enjoy hockey. There will be rough patches now, but why crucify anyone in the regular season when we’re a lock to make the playoffs, probably as a top 3 seed. If someone completely blows and costs us a run at the Cup this year, yes, then you can light them up. But for now, just shut up and watch the fucking games, and remember that there were people that gave a shit when we had names like Thibault and Leighton in goal. (gets off soapbox)
He's the one they call Dr. Karpotsev...
by deathmonkey on Mar 7, 2010 4:29 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I'm really not on the goalie hate bandwagon
and yes, I understand that every goalie has bad games. We do seem to have an awful lot of them here this season though.
Seriously, how many times have we chased the other teams starter mid-game?
And how many times has our starter finished the games riding the pine?
It seems to me that we aren’t on top of that comparison.
And keep in mind that with a top tier ranked team like Chicago, it ought to happen to the OTHER team much more than to us.
contrary to that expectation
opposing goalies seem to play balls-out when it’s against us. Perhaps it’s just a sign of their respect for our offensive power, but it’s been frustrating at times.
by gmh on Mar 7, 2010 5:15 PM CST up reply actions
in response
they say the more you shoot at a goalie, the sharper he is. When we continually shoot 40+ shots a game, and there’s not a lot of “quality” shots sometimes, we’re gonna make the opposing goalie look good. Conversely, when we allow 20 shots or less, Huet/Niemi are like the outfielder in little league that gets caught staring at the sun or catching butterflies until the one pop fly comes his way. They get cold during a game when they’re not facing a lot of shots, and I’m guessing it’s hard to keep focus when the shots coming at you are so sporadic. Is it an excuse on the behalf of them, not at all. They are professionals and should play to that level. But it helps keep the muscles and the mind warmer and more ready-to-go when you’re not in la-la land half of the game. Plus, the added mental pressure of wanting to play well to stick it to all the douches that sarcastically chant or clap when someone makes a save after a mistake, and I can see where it’s difficult being our goalie right now. Being a Hawks goalie is akin to being a Bears quarterback since McMahon, who wasn’t even that great, but lucked out because he didn’t fuck up too much.
He's the one they call Dr. Karpotsev...
so they say...
you can see it with the eye-test.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
I feel like we've had this debate before
not you and I, specifically, but on this site — and there isn’t a lot of statistical evidence supporting the “more shots = better save percentage” theory, at least generally speaking. (There’s an article somewhere, or maybe Chi did something with numbers, I don’t remember where it is now.) With our goalies, I think a lot of the time it also has to do with the quality of shots they’re seeing. For example, Huet looked just fine in the first period, when the guys in front of him were limiting the Wings to perimeter shots and the like. In the second period, when there were scads of breakaway/odd-man situations, neither Huet nor Niemi looked comfortable.
BtN doesn’t have stats up for this season yet, but last year Huet had a DeltaSV% of +14 (actual SV% – expected SV% based on shot quality), which is better than I expected (Khabi was +25), so this year’s numbers will be veeery interesting.
by gmh on Mar 7, 2010 7:30 PM CST up reply actions
it was at BtN somewhere
can’t find it now, of course. But there was nothing conclusive to say that a lower number of shots leads to a lower SV%, yeah.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on Mar 7, 2010 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, I scoured BtN for it
but thanks for backing me up :P
by gmh on Mar 7, 2010 8:02 PM CST up reply actions
anytiemz
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 7, 2010 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
The BTN story I remember
I think this is the BTN story that most people remember.
But he looks at save percentage vs time since last shot faced. I’ve always had a problem with this negating the old idea of goalies make more saves when facing more shots, as it doesn’t consider shot quantity. Maybe he looked at this in a different one, that I didn’t see. But I think if a goalie faced a lot of shots, then had a while without shots, then 5 minutes later faced a bunch of shots again, he might be sharper than a goalie who faces one shot every 5 minutes. But by that study, both of those cases are the same.
I always intend to look at this, that’s why I have the article linked, but a stupid job keeps getting in my way.
I'm gonna have to go on radio silence...
for the rest of the week since I only listen to AM sports talk. I don’t want to have to drive into oncoming traffic listening to the mouthbreathers. I better charge my ipod.
I am growing very weary
of the “we are still in first in the division” or “we are second in the conference” as a reason not to be concerned. That is irrelevant to the recent and somewhat alarming play of the team. The team has not put together a solid 60 mins (excluding the vancouver game which I would argue was not a solid 60 mins either) since the holiday season and this doesn’t inspire much confidence heading into the playoffs. The trend of giving up 2 and 3 goal leads is maddening. Once in the playoffs it doesn’t mean shit where you finished in the conference. I don’t think I have to list examples of President’s trophy winners who were shown the door in the first round. This shit needs to get fixed in the next 4 weeks, PERIOD, or it is going to be a very disappointing spring around here.
I agree, but
if you really think about it, unless someone in the coaching staff (or one of the players!) reads this blog, us being worried (and count me as among the worriers) doesn’t exactly do anything for the team…
Also, if you define “disappointing” as anything short of winning the Cup, I know everybody would love to see it and practically expects it to happen, but even in 7-game series the playoffs don’t always go as you’d expect — so while I’d be “disappointed” if we don’t make it, don’t look for me to jump off a bridge.
The Hawks are a good team. They have some shit to get together — they’ll get it done, and let’s hope they make it far. Like winning the cup far.
Last year's March wasn't exactly awe-inspiring either.
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by El Duque's Raft on Mar 7, 2010 9:05 PM CST up reply actions
Because of December...
…I think our expectations became so high that we didn’t realize that the defense was playing far above their median level of play and that wasn’t actually their median level of play.
Basically, because things went so well in November/December, we automatically extrapolated that out for the rest of the season.
So, I think what even if what we’re seeing right now is our average, or even below average performance, we’re still not neceessarily going to reach that November/December peak again, but somewhere in the middle.
by GenPabloSecobar on Mar 8, 2010 7:56 AM CST up reply actions
Well let’s all pray that what we’ve been seeing is not our average or slightly below, but well below our average
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 8, 2010 8:50 AM CST up reply actions
You're right
instead of looking at our solid standing in the playoff hunt and being somewhat positive……….we should all light ourselves on fire and run around in pure panic.
The hawks aren’t playing their best hockey right now, but what do you want people to say? Would you like 200 identical comments on this board "I only have one thing to say, this shit needs to get fixed "……..ok good, we’re all in agreement.
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
hey, at least we're not Devils fans
Winningest goalie of all time and his team gets shut out by the Western Conference cellar dwellers 2-0.
Little bit of perspective, right? No one can play perfect hockey 82 times out of 82, no matter how much we want them to. Sure, there’s a trend that’s maybe pointing at shitacular times ahead, but this kind of happened last year too. Sky’s not necessarily falling yet.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on Mar 8, 2010 8:50 AM CST up reply actions
No team goes 82 - 0
If the Hawks were merely getting beat here and there by a team that plays above itself and/or gets some good bounces (with a minimum, reasonable number of craptastic events on our part), few people would be so freaked out.
We do seem to have an excess of craptastic periods or stretches where games get frittered away. That sort of thing is unsettling.
ah, but couldn't a team go
42-0-40?
That’s what I’ve been holding the Hawks to all season.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
I think you missed my point.
You are oversimplifying and misinterpreting my post. My reply was to a post about how we shouldn’t be talking about poor performance by this player or that player, or a PP system, etc, and instead we should have ear to ear grins because we are in first place. I am a proponent of discussing the various topics and encourage it which is exactly the point i was making and I think the point of the existence of this blog. I don’t want to read the same crap over and over, especially when it doesn’t require any cognitive skills to post. The point of my post was that while excusing their play with the “we are in first place” crutch may make you feel better, it is not helpful or interesting and it is meaningless come puck drop in mid-April. We all know where we stand and its great but I prefer to see discussion here on why this team is not performing at the level it should be….I don’t need to come here to find out where we are in the conference standings and it doesn’t take any analysis or understanding of hockey to figure that out. There are a lot of very knowledgeable hockey minds here and I find it much more interesting to read opinions and critique of the play, not some post about how we shouldn’t be criticizing or breaking down poor performance or failures by this player or that player because we are in first place.
looking at your post in the context of a reply to deathmonkey's post
I understand your point. I am not a fan of his comment, in which he(condescendingly) says that we should just not talk about anything and watch the games.
Discussing flaws is fine, I’m just saying that we shouldn’t be panicking, it’s just a lull. We know what this team is capable of.
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
Thanks for making the joke again
I don’t think everyone got it when I made it the first time.
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame.
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I'm going to call Holmstron KinkyBoots from now on.
Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.
by russellguldin on Mar 8, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
as bad as the goalies have been
I just don’t think it will be possible for them to fuck up 4 games outta 7 in a playoff series. Yeah there might be a game where they just get pounded and give up 5 goals in a period but thats just one game. The problem lies with our defenseman playing like hot garbage. Hopefully once April rolls around they’ll start playing like they give a shit again.
no one has to individually tank 4 games in a series to put you under
in the tightened up play of playoff hockey, a player tanking the team only one or two times can tip a series.
Maybe they need to have a full time psychologist working with the netminders. Or a shaman. Or something
It was one period
The Hawks played hard in the first—they were attacking the Scum and not allowing them to hold the puck much. They kept the Scum to the outside so no serious scoring chances occurred. In the third they were once again in urgent attack mode. But the second, ugh. They didn’t pressure the man with the puck, they didn’t control play at all, and they allowed the Scum to dictate the play. If the Hawks would put together a full 60 minutes, this game is no problem.
I expect we’ll see full games out of our boys come playoff time. While I’m pissed because we lost, and especially pissed that it was to the Scum, I’m not too worried. It was one period—one that I don’t think we’ll see again.
we've had some
really shitty second periods all year. This was not the first. Hopefully they pull their heads out of their asses quickly enough to realize you have to play 60 minutes for a full game, not 40 bookended by a 20 minute sightseeing tour.
He's the one they call Dr. Karpotsev...
It was so disorienting
to see the ’Hawks come out strong like they did in the first, put up a two-goal lead, and then just absolutely crumble to pieces in the second, and then nearly redeem themselves in the third. That narrative thread, plus the criminally early start, has pretty much fucked me up for the rest of the day. A few notes:
1. The problem with both goalies right now is that neither of them look confident enough to stop high-quality shots. Unfortunately, that’s all they saw in the second period, and that’s entirely on the other five guys on the ice. We can fling the goalie debate around like monkey poo, but like others have said, right now all we can do is hope they find their game before the playoffs.
2. Brian Campbell had his worst game in awhile. Ugh. I don’t even want to talk about how Daydream Nation was pwned by Datsyuk the entire game. No offense to Ladd, who’s awesome in his own rugged, unwashed way, but it’s sort of pathetic when he’s your best forward on the ice.
3. There were a few whiffed shots in the first period (one by Brouwer, and I believe another one by Hossa), which, had they connected, could have potentially put the ’Hawks up by another goal. Also, how many rebounds did Howard give up in the third? And there was NEVER anyone at the top of the crease to put it away.
4. The last few minutes of the game were infuriating. Seriously, I was all hopeful about maybe getting the tying goal — ha, I should have known better. Hossa and Kopecky came close, yes, but after that it was pretty fucking futile. Also, I never want to see Byfuglien attempting to bring the puck into the zone ever again; it’ll just send me into a rage blackout.
"Also, how many rebounds did Howard give up in the third? And there was NEVER anyone at the top of the crease to put it away."
The first period too. I’m surprised it wasn’t four because his pads looked like they were made of flubber the way the puck kept shooting off of them.
by GenPabloSecobar on Mar 7, 2010 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
The ’Hawks have been avoiding the slot for some time now. The game against the ’Nucks could have been a much bigger blowout with Raycroft giving up some large rebounds to the front of his crease; there were no ’Hawks there to capitalize.
Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.
by russellguldin on Mar 8, 2010 7:44 AM CST up reply actions
thus why Brouwer is a good option with Kane & Toews
and perhaps Ladd might work with Hossa & Bolland?
Yes, definitely move Ladd to a new line
his production has been less than desirable as of late
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 8, 2010 8:52 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think a hot line should be jumbled
but Q is the coach, and we kow that today’s lineup won’t be next week’s lineup (perhaps not even the next period’s lineup). I rather like to see a good big guy who can play the front of the net and pot some rebounds – on each line.
I know what you're saying
Although he doesn’t have the typical size, I can’t name one player on the Hawks who works harder and is better in front of the net than Toews, so maybe we’ve got that guy on the Daydream Nation line already?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 8, 2010 9:47 AM CST up reply actions
I prefer to relieve Toews from that physically punishing duty
and use a bigger, more expendable player in that role.
I want Toews to last a long, long time with the Hawks
who was he skating with yesterday?
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
so what you're both implying then
is to put Sharp on the 3rd line.
I’m just saying…
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 8, 2010 5:59 PM CST up reply actions
2nd in the conference in GA
I am so sick of the goalie debate, just like everyone else – in reality, they have given up one more goal than SJ who has give up the least in the conference. How much of that goes to the D? I have no idea, and the Hawks do not seem capable of making a highlight reel save that is not followed up by an awful looking soft goal – still, the reality is that they have allowed fewer than only one team. What alarms me about todays game is twofold, 1. The Detroit loss prototype was reinstalled today, play balls out for 10 minutes, fizzle, then come up short – it was not the old m.o. to a tee, but close IMO. 2. More importantly, there were two… err three terrible calls called in the span of what 15 seconds? One that took 88’s goal off the board – the Hawks seemed to be way more unnerved by this than the wangs… Just my thoughts.
Who is that Bickell?
This site is the
poster child of intelligence of chicago hockey fans. The bandwagon is getting kind of full isnt it fellas? Leave it to shitcago (aka roaches) to race to the top of the dung pile of a classless society.
If we are Shit-cago
you must be from Detoilet that we dump in to.
Competitive violence, that's why you're here!
what?
you make no sense. please don’t do that again.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
I stopped reading this
after “poster child of intelligence of chicago hockey fans.” You mean he wasn’t complimenting us?
Just drink it up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojVUoTeetBQ
The world will not explode, water always levels, goalie confidence will return. At least I hope so, b/c I don’t want to have wasted $300 to watch Ovie light us up on Sunday.
telling it like it is
1) I don’t know if Soup was at the end of a shift or what, but after the turnover that lead to Filppula’s goal, Soup’s attempt to get back and help Hammer out was bare minimum effort.
2) Kane was bad today, a few turnovers entering the zone, 2 of which were costly. It was one of his worst games of the year, but I’m sure he’ll be fine.
3) Plenty has been said about our goaltending, it was dreadful.
4) the no-goal no-call on buff was some of the stupidest shit I’ve ever seen, and while this seems like a cop out, I have no doubt that the “call” absolutely cost us the game……brutal.
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
only thing I like about that no-goal
is maybe now it’ll get the tinfoil hat society among the Detroit faithful to shut up about how Bettman and the Refs have it out against them. Look, Chicago gets screwed over too, and we don’t blame it on some secret plan to make our lives miserable.
I would like to have that goal back but I’m hoping the disastrous result of that second-period snoozefest kickstarts the Hawks into gear. They’ve more consistently stopped playing all 60 minutes of a game and it’s at the point of the season where teams will make them pay for it.
Third line was money tonight. Daydream Nation, not so much. Hossa was a -2 while both Toews and Kane were -3. I do wonder if this is because of the fatigue from the Olympics setting in, in which case, maybe some rest will help.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
I like your post
And if the players don’t read this site, I’m hoping the Q-stache spontaneously ignites in a big ball of flame on that second-period ineptitude.
Depressing stat from Jesse Rogers
After a season-high tying five goals allowed in the second period, the Hawks have now outscored opponents in that period by only five goals for the season. They are +26 in the first and +17 in the third.
The good news is
That means they did well enough in the second period earlier in the season (correct me if I’m wrong, but at some point didn’t somebody say that was their best period?), so they still have it in them. Somewhere.
"didn’t somebody say that was their best period?"
I think I did, at least early in the season. There was some stat about their outscoring opponents quite a bit. But I think that was also during a stretch where they were taking a period to get serious about the game. Now they seem to be doing the opposite.
Simply put, they can’t take off ANY periods against quality teams.
We used to be good in the second period
Prior to the Minnesota meltdown we were a +17 goal differential.
After that point we are a -12.
(Please note I did the calculations by hand so I may be a couple goals off)
Regardless, I hope we don’t look back and realize that that letdown was a harbinger of things to come.
To make this post not totally depressing: How about that Laddie hat trick?
"FACEOFF!" "Makes the pass." "FIGHT!" - 8 bit hockey
hey buddy,......personely I got help after that game
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
by ccm on Mar 7, 2010 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
apparently
from a “hit the reply button” tutor (see, it CAN be done! Hi five)
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 8, 2010 12:01 AM CST up reply actions
Dammit!! The road to the Cup still goes thru Detroit
until we prove different!
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
And now we're going to hear about it constantly...
The arrogance of Babcock and the Scum fans is back in full force.
They did not win that game
we lost it
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by BigCSouthside on Mar 7, 2010 6:55 PM CST up reply actions
at worst
we tie the season series. We have one more game, and with any luck, it’ll have playoff implications for Detroit, cause I’d like to be the ones who cockslap them in the face and say, “sorry boys, not this year”
He's the one they call Dr. Karpotsev...
Didn't we go through this with the Bulls......
and once the evil empire was torn down ….we jus flat out smoked evryone…..I see this happening here
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
by ccm on Mar 7, 2010 6:57 PM CST up reply actions
Does anyone else have this song stuck in their head after today?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbJQT2eDseA
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
unfortunately, no
I only managed to see one goal scored and freaking chelsea monday won’t leave me alone…
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Nothing else matters until we deal with Detroit----and we will be lead by Kaner
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
Hey McClure, does SBN make you identify who the Scum are for their combo recap page?
http://www.sbnation.com/nhl/events/39238/postgame
I was just confused to see the line below on the page above. They make you do that so as to not confuzzle the newbies or something?
“Recap of the Hawks nasty, filthy loss to Scum (Detroit)”
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David Haugh (!?) actually makes some sense (?!) of the whole goalie matter
The meat of this column:
Quenneville planned to discuss the Huet vs. Niemi decision with his staff, but with 17 games until the postseason, what choice does he have? If you agree that part of goaltending is psychological, consider the boost Huet would get from having his coach reinforce the team’s support by starting him against the Kings. Bench Huet now, you may lose him later — when the Hawks still may need him.
“That’s Joel’s area and he’s an experienced coach and knows what to do in these situations,’’ Huet said.
As shaky as Huet looked against the Wings, the thought of the Hawks trying to win a Stanley Cup with a veteran still seems safer than depending on a rookie. Improve the defense, and Huet will look better too. Niemi’s numbers look tempting, but his inexperience could be treacherous.
It’s a gamble, but the Hawks have to risk letting Huet play through the rough patches to develop a rhythm every winning goalie needs. Quenneville’s well of patience can’t be bottomless, but changing goaltenders for the third time in a week would be an odd way to build stability this late.
If this is the goalie tandem the Blackhawks had enough faith in to resist all trade offers, now is no time to waver on the only guy with playoff experience. A month before the playoffs represents the time Huet needs an arm around the shoulder instead of kick in the pants, a message the players seemed to realize.
From Jonathan Toews on down, they agree this is a problem of many, not one.
“We’re giving the other team open looks by turning the puck over, odd-man rushes and not getting in lanes to block shots,‘’ said Andrew Ladd, whose hat trick was ruined. "It’s been going on way too long and definitely needs to be addressed. Frustrating.’’
this
When Huet got pulled today, I did wonder if we’ll start making a habit of pulling the goalie every other game. That just can’t be good on either of them.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 7, 2010 8:17 PM CST up reply actions
I was okay with pulling Huet today
he wasn’t making the saves, and the Q needed to do SOMETHING (ANYTHING) to jolt the team out of their stupor. And he’d already used the time-out.
by gmh on Mar 7, 2010 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
I agree
the timeout hadn’t worked to light some fires under some asses, so he had to pull him. The defensive play did tighten up somewhat after that (excluding Kane’s turnover).
Huet played his way out of his early season funk, so hopefully he can do the same now and rock in the playoffs.
agreed, but it's kind of starting to be the chicken-and-the-egg question
Obviously they needed to do something to jumpstart the team again, but we’re pulling goalies partly also because they’re not confident enough to make the saves, but are they losing confidence because they’ve been getting pulled too?
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 7, 2010 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
If it's anything like baseball closers
Avoiding too much pulling might be the right thing to do… better to have some certainty than not. Plus, I don’t think it’s possible to get locked into a hot streak (or lukewarm streak) if you aren’t playing a continuous string of games (or periods).
Depends what Q tells him
If goes right to him and says, “It’s not your fault, I’m just trying to slow the game down and we’ve burned the timeout…we’ll pick you up”, then Huet will probably be “OK”. If Q won’t look at him and tells his assistants that he’s a cheese-eating surrender monkey, and Huet hears him, then the confidence may be dented.
by GenPabloSecobar on Mar 8, 2010 7:59 AM CST up reply actions
From the Sun-Times
article here:
‘’After four [goals] in a short amount of time, we have to do something to try to get the momentum back,’’ Quenneville said. ‘’I wasn’t blaming Huey. They made plays.’’
What exactly were the trade offers the Blackhawks resisted on?
This appears to be the new delusional drum to beat. I didn’t realize Stan Bowman had a deal in place for Tomas Vokoun but decided he’d rather stick with what he’s got.
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Mar 7, 2010 9:19 PM CST up reply actions
it's all rumor and speculation right now, really
but if anybody thinks Florida would take Versteeg, Huet, and a prospect/draft for one of the only good players they had on their team for Vokoun, then people are seriously delusional. Florida wouldn’t really have taken Huet either, and that tagging room issue was gonna be a problem if no one took Huet.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 7, 2010 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
Seems more like revisionist history. It was fairly well-documented that the Hawks shopped all over the galaxy for a taker on Huet’s contract and came back empty-handed.
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Mar 7, 2010 9:35 PM CST up reply actions
and Huet HAD to go for it to work
sending him to the minors apparently wouldn’t have answered the tagging room issue because he had a one-way contract.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 7, 2010 9:48 PM CST up reply actions
indeed, what "offers" did Stan supposedly turn down?
I never heard anything even remotely concrete that didn’t get done. I suspect the Vokoun talk was all fan’s wishful thinking, with no subtance to it
by krome on Mar 7, 2010 10:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
And do Hawk fans realize..........
……….Vokoun has won half as many post-season games as Huet?
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day." ~ Frank Sinatra
I'm just going to take a deep breath
blame it on the screwy start time, know we have plenty of time to get things straight and remember your never as good as you think or as bad as you think. Maybe come playoff time this humbling will have been for the best.
I dont care what you people say
Ive started a Facebook group against French Goalies.
why the fuck are people who hate Huet
so quick to use his French-ness as some sort of argument?
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 7, 2010 9:34 PM CST up reply actions
Because
George Bush told us we are supposed to be racist against the French.
good to know
where your sparkling logic came from.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 7, 2010 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
stay classy
little man.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 7, 2010 10:18 PM CST up reply actions
at least he didn't bring up the war
yet
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 7, 2010 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
and yikes...
glad intelligence is running ramped here.
fisting barry rozner with every goal!!!
by soupy's spin-o-rama on Mar 7, 2010 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
in little man's defense
he was quoting Bush and therefore might have had a difficult time raising himself out of the intellectual void. The fact that “blow me” was the ultimate result of 6 mins time to consider a comeback response supports my case.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 7, 2010 10:32 PM CST up reply actions
maybe that comeback response
was really a cry of desperation. “But it’s been so long…”
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 7, 2010 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
then he should have ended it with "please"
manners people!
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 7, 2010 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
or even
“someone? anyone? cherry on the top?”
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 7, 2010 10:35 PM CST up reply actions
i really wanted to see...
the good old “I know you are but what am I” response
fisting barry rozner with every goal!!!
by soupy's spin-o-rama on Mar 7, 2010 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
ok
I just let out what could only be described as a giggle
ugh
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 7, 2010 10:37 PM CST up reply actions
wow, some sparkling pieces of wit from the shallow end of the gene pool
200 plus years of rocky relations to pick from and he has to toss off a non sequitur, and a delayed action school yard witticism.
Back to the minor leagues boy, you’re not ready for the big time.
and SBN needs an anti-rec button
to turn posts RED
by VerStig on Mar 7, 2010 9:35 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
so chiblackhawks
can I ask you a few questions about your blog and the motivations, in general and for you personally, of why one maintains one? Are the motivations typically monetary, career opportunity, or simply the love of a topic or team?
Just curious if you don’t mind me prying. I guess the biggest reason I ask is that I assume (it is a complete assumption) that there’s not a big financial gain if any and that a lot of time and research goes into it. Second, I’m curious to hear if your following has grown this year.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 7, 2010 10:45 PM CST reply actions
Well, Original Six asked if I was interested in helping him out
and I think the biggest draw for me is that it’s helping me to write to a deadline. Plus, I’ve probably been making everyone around me sick with all my Hawks talk so I figured a blog would be the best place for that.
I haven’t kept track much of that, but we only started really sometime late January, so we’re really still in the blog’s infancy.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 7, 2010 11:04 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks Chi
“sick with all my Hawks talk”. I think I even overwhelm my friends who are ticket holders when we get into talking about the Hawks. I’m glad you found a “release” (little man pun intended). This site has become mine. I am envious of your knowledge of the game, along with a number of other commenters. I wish you and Andrew success. Aside from reading your site a few times a week is there something that a reader like me can/should do to support your site?
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 7, 2010 11:18 PM CST up reply actions
you're welcome :)
Good pun there, too. Andrew’s gonna be on the Hockeenight puckcast, so you can tell him he’s awesome, haha. But we’d also like to get people commenting there every now and then; feedback’s always much appreciated.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 7, 2010 11:28 PM CST up reply actions
I do already think Andrew is awesome
He jumped off the scales of my You’reSoooCool-O-Meter when I learned that Jim who got me the Bobby Hull signatures was his uncle – and I’ve started reading his stuff too based on that and your suggestion
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 7, 2010 11:54 PM CST up reply actions
F
Only decent thing about this horseshit game was that you guys threw a Wesley Willis ref in the OP.
Weak shit all around the ice today, but just wanted to throw out props for the folks running this site. Best hockey blog out there. Kudos!
Rock Over London
Rock on Chicago
Diet Pepsi
Uh-Huh!
"I understood why Joel (Quenneville) took me out, sure. I don’t feel good about that but I feel OK about the way I was seeing the puck. It just wasn’t my night.’’
Oh Christ he’s got the bad goalie insomnia
The infamously famous Buttfudge is back!
Welcome back. In regards to your comment, IMO goalies, like closers in baseball, need to have a short memory and take something positive out of a bad outing. What do you really expect him to say, “Mon Dieu, I sucked”? I’m glad to hear that he was seeing the puck, if it’s true.
Hi
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 8, 2010 8:20 AM CST up reply actions
Famous to all 10 posters
He said it was night….It was 11:30am! I think he was probably hungover or still drunk.
Dude
you really need to thicken your skin. Your fanpost states it was posted at 4:19AM, just like the one above shows it was posted at 3:53AM. Hey, it’s none of my concern at what time you post, but like I said before, 4am is seldom a good time for decision making.
I’ve never ripped hard on you, but I seem to remember you ripping on one of the moderators of this site and calling the commenters here “whining pussys” who “rub the Hawks balls” and “drink crap beer and try to get a handies behind Bennigans.”
I believe most of us were totally offended by that crap beer comment…
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 8, 2010 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
I think I'd just like to hear Huet say "Mon Dieu" once
The power play is still f**king clown shoes
Everybody...HIT SOMEBODY! ~ the Chicago Rush are back in April 2010
I had to go back and review
Now I remember the infamously famous “Buttfudge Waiting Period Rule” for new members. Glad to see Buttfudge wasn’t completely alienated by the long and whining comments on his fanpost (including mine). I would like to point out that we don’t really have a problem with new members posting GDT comment-like fanposts anymore, although there is the occasional BLou.
Hi
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
Thanks for posting that
I couldnt remember why Buttfudge was so infamous. And I was too lazy to look it up.
I can admit to being fairly new to the Hawk life…I grew up in Minnesota and the last team I felt was mine was the North Stars. I finally got my love of hockey back after the North Stars broke my heart by leaving town. My original “fan post” was due to a fact many people still believe Huet is just fine.
Where are you from in Minnesota?
I spent four cold, miserable, and intellectually-stimulating years in St. Peter, watching a lot of hockey.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
Coon Rapids
Grew up playing in the arena the “Mighty Ducks” played in against….tada Coon Rapids. I wish I still could play in all the outside rinks across the state! Illinois just doesn’t have the same love of the game…. Parks maintaining hundreds/thousands of outdoor rinks. Good times
I know exactly what you mean
Living here in Quebec, even with the warm winter, was just great for skating.
Why... Why are you never funny?
I miss skating outdoors - we just don't have all those shallow ponds around
the 12 hour games where everyone who shows up plays.
Found this to be quite humerous....
Taken from Wingin it in Motown thread:
Hawks
Nice win for the wings especially in light of an early 2-0 deficit. I just went over to the Chicago SB nation site and I would like to challenge all Red Wings fans to never sink to the classless level of their fans and writers. The lead story on the game does not refer to us as Red wings, but only as the Scum. One of the reasons I love this game is because it has so much more class than the NFL, NBA, or any other pro sport where all players talk about is how much respect they deserve. It’s too bad Chicago’s fans don’t get that. I hope our sport is never represented in the same way Chicago’s fans present themselves. Don’t stupe to their level. By the way—they report the refs lost it for them today—imagine that.
katiebarthedoor – March 7, 2010
DAG GUMMIT!
by 4Feather on Mar 8, 2010 5:52 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Take it with a grain of salt
If I remember correctly, it was posted by a 1st time commenter and the replies were from a few other commenters who were also completely new, which resulted in one of them coming over here and making a ridiculous post. No biggie, we’ve had our share of that here.
Like I said, they were all new and therefore obviously not yet aware that they really are SCUM.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 8, 2010 8:36 AM CST up reply actions
That is funny, and maybe a good sign
When your team wins 5-4 and this is what you bring up, do you sense the end is near? That’s Isiah “Why should we give them credit?” Thomas level ignorance right there.
Blame it all on
THE OLYMPICS…
1. the fucked schedule
2. which continues to tax most teams in energy
3. After the selection of the Olympic teams and up till the start of the games, I noticed the Hawks play was less focused especially defence
4. All this rolled up into this season where the Hawks are still in a great position
Lets be thankfull and continue to enjoy the ride!
Revenge is a very very very dangerous motivation!
by thepuckstopshere on Mar 8, 2010 9:03 AM CST reply actions
d'awwww
we’ve got a speshul guest, you guys. Everyone give ’em a big hello!
(It seriously cracks me up that Wings fans have such issues with being called Scum— I mean, really, in the big scheme of things, you can get called worse. And if you’re going to throw a fit about a silly little name, THAT’S JUST GOING TO MAKE IT MORE FUN FOR US TO SAY.)
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 8, 2010 9:11 AM CST up reply actions
How's that 8th seed feeling? Pretty comfy?
Calgary’s looking hungry…
by Katherine215 on Mar 8, 2010 9:14 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
alas, I suspect we'll see the Scum moving up rather than down as the reg season finishes
the Griffins are slowly being cycled back to the AHL and teh regular NHLers are returning to the Scum lineup.
I guess we'll have to wait and see on that
I didn’t think Detroit was exceptionally impressive yesterday. When they actually played, the Hawks scored 4 on them. If they hadn’t taken the 2nd period off, I don’t think Detroit would have won. And the Hawks were by no means playing their best hockey in the 1st and 3rd either.
Unfortunately they did take the 2nd period off
just like most SCUM fans will imply that they took off during the 1st and 3rd. They showed flashes of why they’ve been a great team for years. Yes, quite a few Hawk blunders contributed to that, but they took advantage.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 8, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
"I didn’t think Detroit was exceptionally impressive yesterday."
They looked very good to me.
when?
which of the many break-away do you think was caused more by their great team play, and less by massive defensive failures by the Hawks and individual play by the likes of Datsyuk?
without those horrible turn-overs, Hawks win 4-2.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
Hey man, we were having a discussion about French history and its direct relation to modern American Politics and History,
and that was just during a debate concerning who should be in goal for us.
This is a blog for learned Men and Women, sir. Please take your intellectual insults elsewhere…Im just kidding, name calling is fun, thats why people like to do it. AND THIS IS HOCKEY, its not like the boys are going out and engaging in a gentlemanly Polo match and then sitting down afterwards for some tea and crumpets
Side note, was there not a large contingent of Wings fans “whining” about a certain goal that was reversed a few weeks ago? I remember reading that somewhere
Sorry we did not live up to your “classy” standards
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by BigCSouthside on Mar 8, 2010 9:48 AM CST up reply actions
Don't insult East St Louis
Detroit = Detroit when it comes to classy standards
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 8, 2010 2:51 PM CST up reply actions
My apologies
to the fine folks of E.St. Louis. Of course, they couldn’t read the insult or the apology.
What in a name "DEWman"?
Whining leads to crying, crying leads to excessive moisture buildup, which leads to milDEW, which can only result in one thing:
SCUM
So it’s obvious you’re a highly evolved bacteria with an impressive sense of self awareness. It’s a start. Viva evolution!
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 8, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
Yes
nothing like biting sarcasm to nurture a child’s development
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 8, 2010 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
get the fuck out of here
you son of a bitch.
i saw enough Scum fans in Wrigleyville who were perfect willing to start fights for no reason other than Hawks fans being there that I know any appeal to maturity from one of you holds about as much water as a broken condom
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
To me, one of the worse thing
about this loss is having to wait until Wednesday to see how/if they’re going to bounce back. Although it won’t make me happy, I can put up with the inconsistent play for the next few games. I hope they figure it all out after the west coast trip that ends on March 20th. There will be 11 games left at that time to play well and go into the playoffs with some momentum.
Competitive violence, that's why you're here!
A few things
1. At what point does Q give up putting guys like Buff and Sharp on the point during the power play? Hasn’t this experiment been proven time and time again that it’s not working?
2. I was EXTREMELY pissed at Kane at the end of the 2nd period. If you cough up the puck (regardless of how good a play it was on Datsyuk’s part) you HAVE to get back on defense and skate after the guy. He made a half-assed attempt to skate and let Niemi take the fall.
3. I get that Q is pissed at Versteeg, but are you really going to let a good offensive player rot away on a line with Kopecky? Versteeg almost has to try and stick handle his way through three guys at the blue line if he has any hope of generating some offense.
4. I’m really annoyed a guy like Fraser gets scratched so that chronic underachieving size guys like Kopecky and Buff can play. Get your fucking asses in front of the net or hit somebody! THAT’S WHAT YOU’RE THERE FOR!
"Another successful interaction with a man!" - Liz Lemon
If I recall correctly, Buff did get in front of the net yesterday.
However, as we learned, it is illegal to stand in front of the goalie, which is why Buff has been so tentative to do this most of the year.
But I agree w/the rest of your points.
Picture bloodbaths and elevator shafts
Like these murderous rhymes tight from genuine craft
Yes, but...
Buff’s fat ass got us a goal on the PP (even though it was was wrongly taken away). Regardless of the call, you still have to go out there and do your job. Take a look at the Red Wings – Franzen and Holmstrom might have calls go against them but they’re not going to stop crashing the net and setting up screens.
"Another successful interaction with a man!" - Liz Lemon
it was supposed to be sarcasm
Picture bloodbaths and elevator shafts
Like these murderous rhymes tight from genuine craft
I suppose Q keep Versteeg in teh doghouse until he "gets it"
Versteeg just doesn’t seem to be a “broaden his horizons” kinda guy.
The term “not very coachable” comes to mind.
...But Versteeg's been playing on the third line
and has even, in fact, earned a place on the 2nd PP unit with Hossa and Brouwer.
I am genuinely confused. Am I the only one who’s noticed this??
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 8, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
He was on the 3rd line yesterday?
I totally missed that. I saw him on the PP was too busy watching our guys trying to get it out of their own zone to notice whether or not he was any good.
"Another successful interaction with a man!" - Liz Lemon
I prefer his unit on the PP
but that’s because it’s the unit that has 2 d-men on the point.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 8, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
Versteeg did start out with the fourth line
but it wasn’t long before Q promoted him back up to 3rd with Madden and Ladd, and while I think he and Buff were juggled on that line (3rd line got about 15 minutes ice time each, while Buff got 11 and Eager and Kopecky were 6ish and 8ish respectively) it was Versteeg on the ice for all of Ladd’s goals.
So no, Q HASN’T let Kris rot away on the fourth line.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 8, 2010 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
I didn't even booze yesterday
But I honestly don’t remember seeing Versteeg out there on the same line with Ladd.
"Another successful interaction with a man!" - Liz Lemon
Oh, thanks a lot
for being sober, please plan on having a few for next Sunday’s matinee;)
Revenge is a very very very dangerous motivation!
by thepuckstopshere on Mar 8, 2010 11:41 AM CST up reply actions
I went and looked at the lines
Saw that Versteeg spent most of his time on the 4th line during the 1st period but was moved to a line with Madden and Ladd. I think I blocked out most of the second due to our overall ineptitude.
My point about Fraser getting scratched is really magnified when I see 33, 82 and 55 listed as a line. How does that make any sense at all?
"Another successful interaction with a man!" - Liz Lemon
the lines were some kinds of crazy yesterday
including the bits when Q would send out 2 centers whenever the Hawks took faceoffs in the defensive zone. May have contributed to Steeger and Buff alternating lines, but by the third period that was mostly settled. If I’m not mistaken, Steeger started out on the 4th line during the Canucks game too, but was moved to third later on.
I wish I could give you an answer about Fraz, though. I don’t know how much more of an improvement he’d be over Buff/Eager/Kopecky.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 8, 2010 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
I'm a little worried...
…but not panicking at this point with the goaltending.
One thing has been clear for the last 15 games or so – their overall team defensive coverage has been spotty at times. Beyond that, Huet seems to have big trouble battling through screens, and this is something all goalies will need to do night in night out. He also overplayed the 3rd goal, and should have been able to intercept the cross ice pass if he was in the right position.
I’d bet Huet gets the next game to see if he can bounce back, and if he does well, it will be his net until he shows he isn’t reliable. Right now, I’m saying its 50/50 whether Huet or Niemi is the go to guy come playoff time.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Maybe Wednesday, Q said
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 8, 2010 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
so i think most people here might be excited to hear that...
yesterday Kane was out with burish and buff at Houndstooth, saw them there and he behaved himself. yea he was drunk, but he didn’t take his shirt off, didn’t start hitting on fat chicks or nething. it was pretty impressive. Burish on the other hand…
fisting barry rozner with every goal!!!
by soupy's spin-o-rama on Mar 8, 2010 12:34 PM CST reply actions
Its been 15 games plus of subpar goalie work and defense
That falls into the category of “pattern,” and not “exception.” You can’t sugarcoat the reality of things heading into the playoffs. You just can’t.
Kim Johnsson? He’s done precisely nothing so far. I mean other than have the puck consistently whiz by his stick when he isn’t otherwise coughing up the puck.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
by BLou on Mar 8, 2010 1:13 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
This is too funny
Ignoring the fact that you clearly pulled “its been 15 games plus” out of the thin air (Seem to recall a few games in there where the Hawks allowed one goal or less), that still leaves another 50+ games of acceptable goalie work and defense. So which is the “pattern” and which is the “exception”?
You hated Cam Barker; now you hate Kim Johnsson. Maybe it’s you, not them.
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Mar 8, 2010 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
He posted the exact same thing
thursday and a the day before. He just added the word “plus” to his 15 game sample!
That falls into the category of "pattern," and not "exception."
Now if only our team was as consistent as BLou…
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 8, 2010 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
It's an appeal to credibility to throw numbers on a board
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
actually, in 68.3% of instances, numbers are not an appeal to credibility
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
VERY well done
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Mar 8, 2010 8:33 PM CST up reply actions
you are pretty down buddy
maybe you should change your signature to…..
The Blackhawks and the first round exit in 2010
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
Netminders
Does anyone think that Coach Q pulls the goalies to soon? Not all the time of course but Niemi getting pulled bc a shot goes in off a dman is brutal. I really believe in Niemi, and he has proven that he can give up a soft one but he most always fights through for a win.
this yanking and cranking
of the goal tenders will shorthen our play-off run……need a better answer
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
Time change
Do you guys realize that we lose an hour on Sunday? I hope the extra early start doesn’t affect the play.
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
aw fuck
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Mar 8, 2010 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
fuck, seriously?
Of course it had to be this weekend. I’m going to the game with my stepdad and he likes to get there when the gates open, which in this case is 10am (or really, 9am! on a sunday!!).
Sorry, just had to vent on that a bit.
Time
Just think how early it will feel for the Caps. Aren’t they an hour ahead of us as it is? Maybe that will help in the long run.
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
Unfortunately
Washinton plays on Friday and not Saturday, so they should be fine.
The hawks play saturday night in Philly and then have to play the second of a back to back (with the time change) against Washington.
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
I said night, I meant during the day
still, it’s a shitty deal
"In an ideal world I would have all 10 fingers on my left hand so my right hand could just be a fist for punching."
how is that legal under NHL labor laws? i’m surprised there isn’t a clause limiting start times to more than 12 hours after the end of the previous game. they’ve got to be pushing it for this NBC time slot.
All right, come on, dummy, you won the game. Come on. Pick up your trophy.
But But But
That means folks like me who work from 7am to 5pm (and later) will actually get to see the sun other than on the weekends. I feel like Dracula from Oct- March.
Q needs to curfew those boys on Saturday night – do one of those lock-in things that’s so popular with youth groups – except lock them in Johnny’s Icehouse and tell them to practice their defense.
"FACEOFF!" "Makes the pass." "FIGHT!" - 8 bit hockey
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