Are We Bound Out Of Obligation? Is That All We Got?: Hawks 1 - Preds 4 Wrap
I'm not going to bother with the linear recap of tonight's game, you all saw it. So I'll just get straight to the bullet points and observations.
-Before Nashville fans get on my ass, credit is due to a team that came out and wanted it more, worked harder, and was even able to adjust their game. The Preds were more open, created some opportunities, and fully deserved their win.
-Now that that's out of the way, the Hawks effort was at least in the same neighborhood as despicable. In a game where you're supposed to come out and prove why you're a favorite for the whole thing, they were outworked, out-thought, and out-everythinged. They skated the whole game as if they were entitled to something, as if it was just going to come to them, and I quite simply don't know where that's come from.
-Ok, I've had enough of Dustin Byfuglien on defense. He was indecisive and out of position all night, and I don't really care if 51 Phantom's arm is hanging by a thread, he needs to be out there Thursday. Fuck, Nick Boynton will be welcome. This experiment has gone as far as it can.
-That said, Buff was not helped by the Shuffle-palooza that took place in the 3rd period. When chasing a two-goal deficit perhaps it's not best to have to try and find cohesion amongst a new lineup for 10 minutes. Mr. Quenneville, if this thing shockingly goes tits-up in this round, do not think for one second your job is safe, as you've done nothing yet to assure us that you're the coach to take us from points B to C. If a jumble had to be made, it was to put Kane-Toews-Hossa together as that always sparks something.
-One thing the coaching staff has done is successfully hump Troy Brouwer into submission. As the Fifth Feather mentioned tonight, this is a Top-6 forward who poured in over 20 goals this year, and now he can't find a role? With no one even coming into the same zip code as Pekka Rinne, can the Hawks really afford to be throwing one of their size-forwards confidence into flames?
-Another reason Buff should go back to forward; he might just actually get to the crease.
-Adam Burish needs to dress ahead of Eager Thursday.
-I'm only a blogger (and not a very good one at that), but I'm going to go ahead and call out Jonathan Toews. Where were you? Where have you been? Whenever this season ends, I'm not the only Hawks fans who's going to be seriously pissed if your best games came for Team Canada instead of the team that's paying you $2.7 million this year and $6.1 million next. You were a non-factor on the boards tonight. Your Corsi was even. Can't help but notice Sidney Crosby is single-handedly dragging his team across the finish line right now. Sure, you're not as dynamic, but you're supposed to be an inspiration, no? It had better come soon.
-Kris Versteeg was the best Hawk forward tonight, and yet he was culpable for letting David Legwan waltz right past him for what turned out to be the winner. Sad.
-I think I'm going to stop waiting for Dave Bolland, because it apparently isn't coming.
-Andrew Ladd was moved to the top line to create traffic in the crease and open up space for Toews and Hossa. When does that happen, exactly?
-I think Q just shuffled his lines again.
-As vitriolic as this all is, this series is hardly over. We'll find out what the Hawks are truly made of Thursday. They've never faced a 2-1 deficit on the road. The team they are modeled after (whether you like it or not it is Scum) was able to find enough to win tonight to even that series at 2. If the Hawks' balls are as big as we think they are, they should be fine. If they're not, then they didn't deserve to win anyway. Our gut-check has come way earlier than we thought it would, but it's here now. If the Hawks continue to act as if they've got something coming to them, it'll be an early summer. If they show up and at least match the effort level of a team that now surely believes it can take this, they have a good chance of getting out of this series alive. We'll find out in two days.
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Common Hawks!
Get it together! Don’t make me post a “The hawks are golfing!” video of me crying like Luongo last year saying the hawks are golfing over and over! Please don’t NOBODY WANTS TO SEE THAT!!!
Drink it up!
...and that goes double for Uncommon Hawks!
by cliffkoroll on Apr 21, 2010 7:27 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
HA!
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
also
Madden! Jesus Christ man you were brought to this team for a reason! Please be the Grizzly Captain to set this ship right and avoid the GIANT FUCKING ICEBERG that you are about to hit! Thank you and goodnight!
Drink it up!
Was Madden alive tonight?
I didn’t notice.
Ever since
his limo night with stifler’s mom he hasn’t looked too great.
On one kill last night he made at least two boneheaded plays instead of clearing the puck. Perhaps age has caught up
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Toews
I haven’t seen him play a worse game. He got beat by Nashville defensemen all night. Do you think he might be hurt? I always think of him to be the one to step up and that definitely didn’t happen. Seems really out of character.
by misplacedcanadian on Apr 21, 2010 1:21 AM CDT reply actions
This was absolute bullshit hockey from our guys tonight
I watched a less talented Nashville team dominate us in all three zones.
did Rinne play great? yes
Did we allow some fucking stupid ass bullshit to happen? ABSOLUTELY
if the Hawks dont cut down on the deficiencies I saw tonight, we dont walk out of this round. I hope you all enjoyed your division champ hats, because that is all you are going to get
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!
I apologize for this seemingly angry post
A.) The game pissed me off B.) I was hammered drunk, and C.) I ran into my ex-fiancee at the bar, whom I havnt seen in years, and yes, it made me want to kill someone
all in all, the three together are not a good combination…but they still played like shit
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!
by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Fuck everything I said above, we're blaming this loss on her
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!
by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
you need to work in a pick up truck and a train
maybe dragging her down to the tracks to be run over?
You know – think happy thoughts.
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Funny thing is
I’m 26 and I have 2 ex fiancees, thank god I never went through with the marriages or I would have lost my ass with two divorces
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!
by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 10:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
you do undersand that a string like that
IF IT CONTINUES will eventually require you to looking in the mirror
Confusion will be my epitaph.
First one
Cheated on me while I was in the army, second one had a mild psychotic break after her parents divorced and developed a severe drinking problem, and she left me because she wanted to drink her ass off and party all the time ( this was a complete 180 from when I met her)
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!
by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 10:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
those are some bitches
which one was last night?
by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Number 1
I’m a sucker for pretty, sarcstic girls who are well endowed
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 10:47 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I think you need a new type
this one doesn’t seem to be working out so well for you
by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Possibly
Maybe I should drop Sarah Spain a line. Hot, sarcastic, stacked… right in my wheelhouse. You think she would mind being divorced in a couple years? Meh, at least she’ll get a free ring out of it
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!
by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 11:14 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Seeing as you haven't made it to the altar yet
I don’t think you have to worry about the divorcing part. I sincerely hope you got the first two rings back…
by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
even better
did you recycle the first one?
by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
First one
I didn’t even want back because I was so fucking pissed, the second one I sold then used the money to take my gf at the time shopping on Michigan ave
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!
by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 11:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
whoa
take my gf at the time shopping
that was pretty quick. or did it take some time to get the ring back?
SCH Resident Idiot
Success is our only mother f*ing option, failure's not
by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I held it for over a year
Sat in a desk drawer, I found it one day and decided to unload it
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 11:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Oy vey
take my gf at the time shopping on Michigan ave
Ok, I’m seeing a problem here. You are way too nice to not very nice girls. Even if it was money from a tiny ring, she can buy her own clothes, etc.
by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm a cynical misanthropic smartass
Bastard, I gotta give them something for putting up with me
side note, I didn’t even realize Brouwer played last night, and they need to tie Q down and force shave the stache, I think it’s been making decisions for too long and the power has gone to it’s…follicles
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!
by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 12:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
or just find someone who likes
cynical misanthropic smartass bastards who are also sox fans. it’s much cheaper.
The stache has disappointed me so far in the series. however, I could not imagine looking at Q wihtout it.
by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
have to keep the 'stache
all recent championship-winning coaches here have one.
SCH Resident Idiot
Success is our only mother f*ing option, failure's not
by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
SCH dictionary ...
cynical: see misanthropic
misanthropic: see cynical
smartass: see misanthropic cynic
cynical misanthropic smartass: see BigC
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
well endowed?
was she a penis tucker??
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I was talking about titties, CNS
Not penises….what made you think of tucking penises? You’re an odd fellow
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!
by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 11:16 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Palamino on the boobs?
Or the dick tucking? I always thought boobs were welcome here since we had a discussion about shaving clams
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!
by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 11:25 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I've certainly seen a number of wienie tucker comments too
several referring to Rick Nash alone
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Number of comments on today's SCH thread: 307
Number of successful jokes: -1
So a horse walks into the bar…
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
You’re an odd fellow
Newsflash. This just in …
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I suppose
That’s about as obvious as pointing out that Todd Bertuzzi is a fuckdoodle who torture harmless critters in his basement for fun
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 11:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
but he feels remorse afterward, right?
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
If by "remorse"
You mean “sexual arousal” the I’d say yes
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!
by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 11:37 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
wow
you do know you can just date them right? you don’t have to propose?
by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
my parents each are on their 3rd
my aunt her 4th. and they all wonder why my sister and I are still single.
isn’t burpchelischili (no relation to me) on his 3rd or 4th?
by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
lol, yeah, 4th
First, got pregnant by a drinking buddy, almost lost a drinking buddy there.
Second, got pregnant by one of 9 guys that she partied with the night we got married.
Third, after 12 years told me her fiancee was getting jealous.
Fourth, so far, so good…
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on Apr 22, 2010 5:51 AM CDT up reply actions
i probably would have never gotten married again
i may actually never get married now after hearing that.
by puppetmasterp on Apr 22, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
well, your SOs
wouldn’t be going out and getting pregnant, so it would have to play out rather differently for you
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Never give up...
Never surrender!
Or in the words of my semi-psycho uncle Larry, (told to me when I was 12 years old) “Never regret a single fucking thing in your past… You did it for a reason, now learn from it, or just fucking die and get it over with.”
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on Apr 22, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
What!
When did this rule start!
Fuck!
Now I find out I’ve been doing it wrong!
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on Apr 22, 2010 5:45 AM CDT up reply actions
oh, and thanks for sharing this
it helps take my mind off that fucking disaster that was game 3.
by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Glad my
Relationship/ women problems can be of assistance. I’m not much in a hockey mood. Btw thank you Sam for calling out the captain and the shuffle wizard. Buff pissed me off, and for the love of fucking sonny Jesus can we stop trying for the breakaway and get patient and actually organize a motherfucking offense?
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!
by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 1:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I second that motion
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!
by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it happened at some point in the 3rd period thread
But not only did you want to kill someone, I believe you mistook CNS for a puppy and shot him in the head
I apparently missed the thread were this "BigC mistook ______ for a puppy" reference was born
can someone fill me in?
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
dont remember being on third period thread
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!
by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I didnt rip you apart for something
did I?
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!
by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
so what was the reference regarding?
I’ve seen it come up a few times
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Note
My avatar and signature. Some people yell at the TV during a PP, some throw things, I shoot puppies (figuratively)
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!
by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 10:34 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
ahhhh, duh!
sometimes 1 + 1 is the most difficult calculation
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Having had a few hours go by
I declare myself over this one and looking forward to Thursday night. These things happen. They’ll get through it.
Did it make much sense for Q to start juggling? No, not really; it was like a guy who gets off the highway when it’s backed up looking for a shortcut, only to find that traffic is just as bad on the side roads, plus now he’s dealing with stop lights. But you know what? The Hawks weren’t winning that game anyway. It’s irritating but ultimately a moot point.
Similarly, I’m not going to work myself into a lather over “effort”. They played very sloppy, and occasionally stupidly, but more than anything they just had a shitty game. It happens – and has happened – to everyone. Detroit, San Jose, Washington, Pittsburgh, we’re all looking at you, too. It’s the first time the Hawks have had one for a few weeks (no, I don’t count game 1), and it was bound to happen sooner or later. I wish it would have come at a more opportune time, but then again, there’s no really opportune time for it to happen in the playoffs. They’ll rebound, and be better in game 5.
Bottom line is, they laid a giant egg against Vancouver in game 3 last year, and while it’s true that they had the luxury of game 4 at home then, it’s also true that Vancouver 2009 was vastly superior to Columbus 2010. And the same is true of Chicago 2009 vs. Chicago 2010. Can they sit back and assume they’re going to turn it around? Of course not. But at the same time, as frustrating as this was tonight, I’m done freaking out about it.
by Brian C on Apr 21, 2010 1:56 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Sure hope the Hawks realize
that “it” doesn’t just happen and that their effort was for shit this game. Can they win this series? Yeah I think they can. Will they win it thinking this was just a freaky game and all they have to do is wait for Tinkerbell to come throw some Vancouver 2009 game 4 fairy dust on them and make it all better? Fuck no.
by husler777 on Apr 21, 2010 2:20 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well said.
Bottom line is, calm down – I expect a good effort Thursday…
But bring your brass balls, cuz it’s probably goin OT.
"My name is Byfuglie33, and I am a RCG..."
I'm sensing some anger here...
As it should be! Spot on with all points, Sam. My hope is that as PO’d as we all are, the Hawks are even angrier. They had better be ashamed of the way they played this game. It was embarrassing. And Q better go see the Wizard for some brains. He looks like a pee wee coach out there puking up his line combinations.
Today was a total vomitous sports day—we lose, the Sharks win, the Cubs get smoked, and Scum wins. I’m going to be in a bad mood for a while.
I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
Great post ...
Series is definiately not over, but after that game, we all needed a Howard Beale moment.

“I DON’T HAVE TO TELL YOU THINGS ARE BAD! EVERYBODY KNOWS THINGS ARE BAD!”
by Billy Charlesbois on Apr 21, 2010 2:00 AM CDT reply actions
I kept hoping the Preds would make it in to double digits in goals
Just for a chance our guys would show up next game. Tonight was despicable. I’ve watched EVERY single minute of EVERY single game this season and tonight I literally wanted to turn the TV off and forget about this horrible display. It’s like they don’t even know we’re in the playoffs yet (part of that credit goes to Nashville, a team that can slow down every single fucking game to “holy fuck I wanna get to bed cuz this shit is so boring” speed).
Better step this shit up next game. I haven’t seen a worse effort out of the Hawks in a loooooong ass time.
It’s sink or swim boys. Let’s see what you’re made of, you damn clowns.
Losing is not 'malum in se'
Making your own fans think that F-ING Nashville has more guts, brains, heart, balls, etc…
That is ‘evil in itself’
Thanks to the Hawks for showing up as the team that played in early January in Minnesota.
I have in no way given up in this series, I just don’t know if I want to see the Hawks prevail and get raped again by the skum.
by Ghost of Bill Wirtz on Apr 21, 2010 2:20 AM CDT reply actions
I read the re-cap 3 times
to try and find one word that I don’t agree with 100%…and I could not. Spot on summary and insight. I’d love to hear Rocky went to the team practice tomorrow and asked them if THIS is what he gets for his money and how many of them felt they earned their paycheck last night……coaches included. And Q? I’m sitting here thinking if he TRIED to fuck up this team during the playoffs what could he do that he hasn’t done already? Niemi seems to have SOME confidence left….maybe Q will start Crawford game 4 to address that? How about Buff in net….we haven’t tried him there to see if he fits in. aaarrrrgggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!
Nice thing is, by the due date for season ticket deposits we’ll know who we’ll be playing in round 2, right? And are we SURE we can’t raise ticket prices any more for 2011 as it seems fans might have some left over playoff budget to spend. ARRRRRRGGHHHHH!!!!!!!
Nice job Sam
Toews hasn’t been around all series. He’s -3 with 1 assist. Today he was brutal, as you highlighted.
Are the Hawks ever going to crash the net?
"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...
Hawks got their asses
KICKED!!!!!!!!
bad playoff performance,very bad…..i can’t believe it……imo this series is over,my heart says: CMON BLACKHAWKS!! but my brain says: GOLFING SEASON IS HERE!
I hope McDonough leaves this team,frickin dumbass…..i am so pissed off right now,followed this team the entire season….i’m in europe so i have to wake up like at 2 am to watch games,and then they do this…..in the words of JR….WAKE THE FUCK UP BLACKHAWKS!!!!!
Seconded
MCDONOUGH PROBABLY HAD HIS WORST GAME OF THE SEASON LAST NIGHT!!
by HungryHungryPanda on Apr 21, 2010 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
I've been in Holland on business since last Thursday...
…so thank you all for being my “eyes” for games 1-3.
I hope to fly back tomorrow and be home for Game 4…I am fortunate in that it looks like I’ll only be here one day more than expected…a big break relative to thousands of others.
Back on topic. The one thing that concerns me is that during the bad stretch in March and druing games 1 and 3, there’ve been frequent posts along the lines of “Well, the effort wasn’t there this game, but they’ll get past that and come out better next game.” I’ve tried to stay as positive as I can be and not be an internet ranter and raver, but I do have to be concerned with the motivation issues with this team, if that is actually what the problem is. The dog days of March are kind of understanable, but everything I’ve read indicates that of the 9 periods played so far, the Hawks haven’t shown up for…4 of them? And, uh, that’s not good enough in the playoffs.
Now, again, I haven’t seen anything outside of the occasional highlight on Youtube, so my interpretations may be wrong. I’m just going by what I’m seeing here and in the mainstream media.
But these guys are professional hockey players. Coach Q should not need to “motivate” them at this point. That giant trophy with all the names on it should be all the motivation they need. And again, I start to worry about the psychological makeup of this team a little bit considering the amount of times we’ve said “Don’t worry about it, it’s only one game.”
by GenPabloSecobar on Apr 21, 2010 4:52 AM CDT reply actions
Not to mention this is still a young team.
Do you really have to motivate a bunch of 20 somethings when its only the second year in the playoffs?
Picture bloodbaths and elevator shafts
Like these murderous rhymes tight from genuine craft
I couldn't have said it any better. And I'll summarize your bullet points even more:
1. Nashville wanted it more and worked harder. Period.
larry. A kind word for everyone.
another pukefest
..The Hawks are playing like this" is another throwaway game against Rochester"…..the way We finished the season..I am not one bit surprised by these results…get Big Buff off that fuck*n blueline and back in front of the net….next game watch how Jonny T starts and that will tell you if things have changed…
by barclay donaldson on Apr 21, 2010 6:16 AM CDT reply actions
Don't know where to start
I Can only say WHAT THE FUCK Q!!! You won Game 2 by a score of 2-0 and you fuck with the lines from the get go last night? Was 2-0 not good enough? Then you continue to fuck with the lines all night?
That being said the players on the ice were thoroughly outworked all night. Show some fucking pride!
September 26, 2007 The day a Franchise was reborn.
in addition to calling out toews...
Hossa and sharp have mostly been non-factors
Honestly, right now you’d have to say you’d rather have kopecky out there instead of hossa. Good for hossa, he can take a hard wrister from 30 feet that is easily saved. He’ll finish with 3-5 shots to look like he was dangerous but really, is that all he can do? What happened to the awesome back-checking and puck control.
And i’m sorry but duncan keith has largely been ineffective in the two playoffs he’s played in so far. I expect a norris candidate to be very noticeable on the ice. In 20 playoff games we’ve seen him, i take brian campbell over him every time.
Hossa
Not a good game last night, but the whole team played like shit. He was a monster in the first two games of this series. We’ll need him to get on the scoresheet sooner or later, but to say he’s been ineffective is wrong.
I’m with you on Keith, however. After watching a few of the Kings/Nucks games, there’s no doubt in my mind that Drew Doughty is the best D-man in the league.
by HungryHungryPanda on Apr 21, 2010 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions
playing like a monster = scoring
has hossa had a point yet?
Dr. Ice from the Game 2 recap
“There will be people that look at the scoresheets from the first two games and see that Marian Hossa does not have a point. Those people will draw conclusions.
Those people will be very, very wrong in their conclusions."
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Look, NOBODY had a good game last night, but if you think Hossa has been mostly a non-factor you’re crazy.
by HungryHungryPanda on Apr 21, 2010 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions
That's BS
You can only give out so many brownie points until you have to put real points up on the board.
If Hossa continues his great play - eventually it sill show on the score sheet
but this is a team sport and there is opposition, and making a good play doesn’t always lead to a goal or assist (but over time it will)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
He strikes me as more the consistency-type player
You can’t count on him to come through in a clutch way in tough situations (I hope he proves me wrong though) but he gives it night-in night-out, and when he’s denied it eventually evens out. I hope this “eventually” happens soon… like Thursday.
perhaps he doesn't appear to "elevate" his game because he is always full effort
I do certainly hope to soon see Hossa (and Sharp) get some breaks going their way so as to show on the scoresheet
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I can just see the headline now...
Hawks players have awesome corsi ratings, dominate in offensive zone, lose the series in 5 games.
We didn't last night though
You can laugh it off if we dominate and lose. But another game like last night’s and there will be dead bodies in Chicago.
Hossa has been the best forward for the Hawks all series.
Easily.
by Original Six on Apr 21, 2010 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions
That's why I said "Never thought I'd say this"
Hossa is amazing, but at some point, the mail must be delivered. Fuckin’ JHC was money in the playoffs.
JHC had his quiet games in the playoffs
I don’t understand how Toews and Sharp’s inability to bury a chance should reflect poorly on Hossa. I know that’s not what you said, but if Sharp doesn’t hit the post in game 1 and Toews doesn’t hit the crossbar in game 2, then Hossa has three solid assists.
Would I like to see him light the lamp, sure, but the guys he is skating with aren’t putting forth the same effort that he is.
The only forwards that have shown up for this series are Hossa and Kane.
Ditto for CNS
I agree with all of this
This team is loaded- someone’s gotta take the bull by the horns. JHC rose to some big occasions last year.
Of course, comparing Hossa to JHC is silly but, as well as Hossa has played, he’s been stoned a few times himself. Two more great games and no stat sheet would be a disappointment.
I can’t help but wonder what the inside of Toews head will be like during the next 30 hours.
Even just comparing hossa to hossa
We know he is capable of playing better and we know he is capable of putting points on the board. There’s got to be some reason why he’s not doing it.
I don't understand why you're so hung up on Hossa
As I mention, guys need to bury the chances he’s giving them.
There are 10 forwards that you could easily blame for the lack of production. I exclude Hossa and Kane.
You’re obviously pissed that Toews got called out, but Hossa has had a better series than Toews despite the fact that they each have 1 point.
Ditto for CNS
I'm hung up on sharp, hossa, and toews.
We shouldn’t have to be finding moral victories for these guys. Their job is to score goals and they’re not doing it.
Hossa and Toews do a lot more than score goals
But Sharpie has been in a bit of a slump and Kaner got shut down last night.
So whose job is it to score goals?
Just sharp and kane?
Scoring goals is a large part of toew’s and hossa’s job description. Yes, they do other things but we have defensemen and a goalie to stop goals from being scored and forwards to put the puck in the net. Specifically, the top two lines.
I still think it starts from the back
Niemi did fine, but our defense needs to get back to November-December-level D. If we can’t get out of our zone more, our forwards are going to be pressing to score, and that never works out too well.
He was the best until last night
That’s why the Preds focused on shutting him down. They did quite a good job in doing so, but nobody else was able to step up in his place.
Keith
Really? I thought he was easily our best defenseman last night. Laid out hits he normally wouldn’t, bailed us out a couple of times.
My assessment of Keith in this series is that he’s been our best D-man (which is what everyone expects). However, I’ve been watching the LA/Van series and have become jaded by watching Doughty just take the fuck over in that series.
Probably a bit unfair to judge Keith so harshly, but it comes with the territory of being a Norris-caliber D-man.
by HungryHungryPanda on Apr 21, 2010 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, Doughty's playing ridiculous
I wonder if one D man can take over for this team though. When the forwards, and your fellow blueliners are playing badly, there’s only so much you can do.
I forget which game it was, but there was one rush where Duncs pinched way in and had so much space he practically could’ve walked in on Rinne unmolested… I doubt he’s got the finishing ability but maybe he could’ve tried it just to change things up?
sure duncs coud prob play a bit better
but honestly, he was the only one who made watching yesterday palatable. And for that, i’ll give him a pass, they rest need to shape up first.
by puppetmasterp on Apr 21, 2010 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions
The only thing Doughty has on Keith....
…is that he’s fucking 20 years old! I thought they were pretty comparable (maybe a tiny edge to Dunc) in the Olympics.
This is true of Keith almost every game, IMO
What was funny last night is after Keith decked DuMont(?), he tried a couple other big hits, but bounced off the guys.
Hell, I even saw Ladd deliver a hit and end up on his ass.
Yep, happened to Steeger too, but that was expected
Maybe the guys saw how well the physicality worked in Game 2, didn’t figure out how the Preds would change their game plan, and subsequently went off of theirs.
"he tried a couple other big hits, but bounced off the guys"
Is it me or does our team somehow look small in this series? As in, we’re getting bounced around quite a bit. Bolland and Fraser get knocked to the ice with regularity and other than Hossa (game 1) and Keith (last night) I haven’t seen too many times where we’ve flattened guys.
Just asking. (Not meant to be another gripe about what’s wrong with our team.)
I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
Absolutely
When people were saying it was men vs boys or whatever, I thought that was accurate, visually. Getting owned on the boards and all.
The sad thing is, if I remember correctly, they’re not any bigger than we are. So I’m just confused. It’d break my heart if our guys really were lacking in the effort department.
effort, desire
we can throw out all those cliches we want. What I’m seeing is a team that doesn’t have a commitment to playing winning hockey. They seem like they want to be flashy and be on all the highlights.
Basically they are an immature team
Thursdays game is basically the season. Do they come out and take the game or do they wait for the win they think they deserve again?
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I didn't see flashy last night
I saw a team out of their game. They couldn’t even try to be flashy.
Agreed on the immaturity though. I really wish we didn’t carry the expectations we do, logically, I never saw why. Emotionally, yes, but logically, no.
I fully expect to see a Game 7 type performance on Thursday. We have had nothing going, we stole Game 2, and we are undeniably the underdogs now. They better play like they’re angry.
wasn't speciffically refering to last night
about the flashy thing, more of a season long observation. What I saw last night was a team that wanted the game (them) and went out on the ice and took it.
Please, please, please don’t let them play angry. We all saw what that looks like in Game 5 last year. I want to see them play like they care, give a fuck, refuse to leave the ice without the win
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Yeah sorry
I meant “angry” more in a “We’re the Blackhawks and you’re not” kind of way. Which might not guarantee anything, but I want some authority shown. The Preds are playing well, but anybody who thinks the ’Hawks are actually this bad is delusional.
Watch the way the yotes have played detroit
that is effort, desire
That doesn't say much for our defense
They’ve been flat out awful. You better be able to score like the capitals if you’re going to fuck around in your own zone as much as these guys do.
I can't disagree
I missed most of the 1st (broken water pipe in kitchen), and was so fed up by the end of the 2nd that I stopped watching and went to bed.
Confusion will be my epitaph.
by krome on Apr 21, 2010 7:30 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
To be honest, the reason fans and media are surprised is because of the way Nashville was blown off before the series. This is a 100 point hockey team, and if they had been treated as such there wouldn’t be much ado over these results. As it stands, the Hawks are only down one game, and with that offense its easily overcomeable (provided Quenneville can outduel Trotz, which would be impressive).
Anyway, last night was an even better effort than G1. This is kind of what I was talking about when I noted we had more to bring on offense. The Preds are a hard team to beat when they play like that.
It was mentioned by Q in his presser, but the Hawks are getting no one in front of Rinne at all. He’s too good to let that happen. Fix that, and figure out a way out of your own zone and this series is tied on Thursday.
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Your first sentence...
…says more about your perception of the world and your sensitivities than reality itself. You can seek out and find idiots to point to in defense of this hobby horse, but it strikes me as inappropriate whiny bullshit that is unworthy of how your team is playing.
Whatever. You should know by now I’m not here to pick a fight. All I’m saying is the frustration is a product of not fully knowing what you were up against. Its not necessarily your fault, either: your media did it and not playing us since 2009 did it.
Sorry for the ‘whining’.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I have to disagree
Yes, Nashville has been downplayed by media, and I can’t say fans of either side were surprised there. And as I’ve said before, i’ve always been envious of the underdog position. But as well as you know the Preds, we know these guys. We’ve seen stretches where they seem to refuse to put anyone in front of the net, and torn our hair out over it. We don’t want to see it again, not in the playoffs. And we know when they’re just not trying.
And this is not to take anything away from the way the Preds played last night. They were great. But the way the Hawks played, made you guys look that much more spectacular. Your forecheck was tough, but there were plenty of time where our puck handling and passing seemed to fuck up on it’s own without help from Nashville players. When the puck seems to slo-mo dribble away from you with no one around, and you sit there and watch it get away until the opposing side gets there and you’re pinned in your own end…..that’s just sloppy.
by puppetmasterp on Apr 21, 2010 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd
Couldn’t have said it better myself. The Preds played extremely well and the ’Hawks played well under their capabilities, no matter how you cut it.
That
and the Hawks lost game 1. The preds in my opinion didn’t win it. Down one, hopefully that ass kicking last night changes shit/outlooks
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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Whatever indeed
You use the word “you” three times. Speaking for myself, I am not frustrated, I did not underestimate Nashville, and I don’t give a rat’s ass abut media coverage of hockey (that’s why places like this exist.)
Frustration, to the extent it is our there, might be linked to Rinne’s .95 (or whatever) sv% and 1.33 GAA. Don’t tell me in your most fevered imaginings this was what you expected the Hawks to be “up against” in the first three games.
Your (ok, I’m specificaly talking about YOU) snivelling gloat/whine is aimed at idiots here. And you may have noticed we have everyday commenters bending over backward to chastise the idiots. You’re the face of OtF- get that shit outta here.
You use the word "you" three times. Speaking for myself, I am not frustrated, I did not underestimate Nashville, and I don’t give a rat’s ass abut media coverage of hockey
The term ‘you’ wasn’t directed at you specifically, but in general, which was of course a stupid way to word things. My apologies.
Your (ok, I’m specificaly talking about YOU) snivelling gloat/whine is aimed at idiots here. And you may have noticed we have everyday commenters bending over backward to chastise the idiots. You’re the face of OtF- get that shit outta here.
Can you detail what you’re referring to as far as ‘snivelling gloat/whine’?
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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Figuratively
Repeatedly making the point that you guys are underappreciated by media/fans. I think you’ve mentioned that enough times. We get it. Please don’t bring it up again.
First comment first sentence
To be honest, the reason fans and media are surprised is because of the way Nashville was blown off before the series.
Maybe it’s just me, but this sounds like:
“Nobody gave us a chance”
“We’re underappreciated. Wah.”
“That’ll teach you to doubt us.”
“We really showed ‘em, didn’t we pa?”
Fair enough. All I was trying to say, which didn’t come across well, is that the public will be more upset with subpar results the higher the expectations. For example, Avalanche fans are probably not upset their series is tied 2-2 at all, because they were supposed to lose quickly. Sorry for the confusion.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions
I'll agree with that
I was always afraid of the expectations that people put on the ‘Hawks. I “believed” they would win but I didn’t “think” they would win that-which-must-be-named. If for no other reason than the fact that nobody really has more than, say, a 30% chance. But people were talking as if it were already won or something, and giving them way more credit than they deserved.
If the players let that get to their heads, shame on them.
I'm a bit edgy this morning...
…not frustrated, OK, just edgy, see, as I’m sure you can appreciate. Sorry if I overreacted.
I come hear to get away from the “public”.
Not a problem. I’d be edgy too.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I think most of the "mass media"
picked Hawks in 6 and many said 7, so I don’t think the Preds were THAT underestimated.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know what THEY are talking about Chris.
I don’t think you sound whiny at all, and you certainly weren’t gloating in your post. Sorry you had to come in here to the den of very angry people.
I think you’re right that no one gave the Preds a chance, but our record against them (4-2?), our statistical lead in most categories, and the way we’ve seen our boys play totally dominant hockey in the past led us to believe we should beat a #7 seed that supposedly doesn’t have any “super” stars.
Our problem here is much more with how the Hawks have played this first round. I don’t think you’re whining at all. WE on other hand….
I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
I think we deserve to whine
Given how our team played last night. The is a ‘Hawks blog — of course we’re going to go all homeristic and downplay how well the Preds played, which was top-notch. But that’s out of Chicago’s control — what is, is the ’Hawks stepping it up.
Of course, this being a blog, it’s not like any of our opinions actually mean anything. But it makes us feel better, so at least let us have that.
Whine, no. Bitch and moan, definitely.
And I do believe we’re doing that very well.
I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
Myself included.
I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
That's what this blog is for, isn't it?
Get our feelings out here so we don’t take it out on our “real” friends. Haha.
Now you're just showing off....:)
I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
That's it! I'm leaving!
I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
Eric Nystrom?
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
btw, he's Jewish
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't conflate...
we should beat a #7 seed that supposedly doesn’t have any "super" stars.
with
no one gave the Preds a chance
Conflate?
Wow. I am impressed with such vocabulary at this early hour of the day.
I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
This is just the icing on the cake for me
I have had a nightmare, undescribale last 3 days (including one of my parents having two near death experiences in the time frame) They looked like garbage yesterday plain and simple.
Golfing season arrived 2 months ago.
I dont know why. How do you explain a team that plays the first 50 games one way, and then is a totally different team the last 30. Cmon, is anyone really surprised by this considering the way the Hawks ended the season? The last 5-8 games they looked better but never like they did to start.
So now why? There’s a few possible reasons I can think of.
1) Something happened in the locker room and the team is divided. Maybe they dont like Q or one another, but this team is different than it was during last playoff run and the first 2/3 of this year. It feels like a different team no?
2) They’re simply not tough enough. Call me a meathead if you like. ( I hate Kyle Orton)
But the fact is theyre not hitting and theyre constantly outworked. That speaks to toughness.
The only sin is stupidity
by nofolds on Apr 21, 2010 7:34 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Partly this is due
to Campbell being injured. We rely on him a lot for getting us out of our zone and for PP responsibilities. We’re modeled after the Wings, and you saw how well they did a lot of the time with all their regulars injured. Once they got everyone back, that’s when they started steamrolling people again. If Campbell can come back this series, and we’re still in it then, we can prevail.
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just when we thought......
goaltending was going to be the Hawks big problem, it’s pretty much been everything else. Except for the soft first goal in game one, Niemi has been serviceable.
You’d think with the 10, or so, chances Rinne gave them by repeatedly turning it over to forwards within 3 feet of the net, we could have managed to score on at least ONE! I was fed up before the end of the second. I’m not going to sacrifice valuable sleep to watch that abortion of defense. It was embarrassing.
-Matt Cooke is a turd burglar. He burgles ALL the turds.-
-At least he's not Cam Janssen. What a bag of dicks that guy is.-
how 'bout it
They have to convert those mistakes and take Nashville out right away…….that would have put them in a big hole to start the game.
by Hitemwithurpurse on Apr 21, 2010 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions
It's not even
just the mistakes either. When we shoot lately, we seem to be keeping the shots low on the ice. How about getting it up some of the time?
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that’s what she said
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by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wait, now I'm confused
I thought somebody was complaining we shot high too much instead of shooting low and looking for the rebound. Which one is it?
For me,
it’s always shooting low into the pads.
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with a 6'5" butterfly goalie
when you’re battling around in close, the shots have to go high
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Not only that,
but he’s not giving up a lot of rebounds off the pads either, and the Preds are doing a good job of clogging up the passing/shooting lanes. Throw some at his ears this next game.
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bingo
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah
situation is they lost last night. So we bitch about everything. Doesn’t matter if it make sense
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Shoot low from the point
high for in close, quality chances
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
We could always just get in close
and shoot Rinne with a .9MM. After that shot, I’m sure everything else would go in.
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We'd miss him or he'd catch it in his teeth
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-At least he's not Cam Janssen. What a bag of dicks that guy is.-
by G8K33P3R on Apr 21, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, shit
this is why we need a Russian then. He could smuggle in a cheap AK and we could pray and spray Rinne into submission.
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Rinne is big - we'd still have to shoot higher to get it over the corpse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
We'll have someone
carry a couple of white phosphorous grenades also, to incinerate the corpse after he’s down
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Yes, good for weapons
and getting extreme DUI’s in Phoenix. ZING!
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The Trib has this photo up..
Another Beauty to the collection

September 26, 2007 The day a Franchise was reborn.
i dont like it
Weber owned Toews all night. one shift in their zone he got spun around onto his ass multiple times. looked tired and slow. this picture pretty much encapsulates his play last night. and i dont like it!
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
sigh
He’s been an adventure alright… but whoever the heck is back there, this is a team that ought to be defense-first. It’s what got us this far. I don’t think we ever had the kind of explosive capability, like, say, the Caps — it always started in the back end.
I’m honestly afraid of what would happen if we brought Soupy back prematurely, and given the way everybody else is playing I’m hard-pressed to believe it’d make a difference. But I think, given last year’s playoff performance, and what he’s meant to us this year, he’s shown that he deserves every penny of that massive paycheck.
I think it'd be cool for Soupy to come back Saturday...
…provided he’s healthy. The crowd woudl go nuts- delicious irony.
I'd rather take Boyton on D
And have Buff go back to forward. We NEED somebody screening Rinne and nobody else seems to want to step up.
I hate to say it, but...
They dumped Quenneville for the inability of his teams to win in the playoffs. It happened in St. Louis for years and then in Colorado. I tell you that’s some bad mojo.
And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.
We've dropped 4 goals in this series
while the Preds are 1 away from a dime. High powered offense? Only when the other team LETS us…huh?
This is PLAYOFF HOCKEY, apparently only the Preds got the memo at this point.
Goalie is now a non-issue but EVERYTHING ELSE is.
If Coach Q-tip were let go, I would not lose 1 second of sleep over it.
Remember when CHEMISTRY was synonymous with Blackhawk Hockey? Those were good times, weren’t they?
soooo right
and guys would talk on the bench about what they saw on the previous shift. But now, they have to see if they’re even playing the next shift together…..It looked like it took the whole team 10 minutes of the third period to even figure out who they were skating with on the “new” lines.
QUIT changing the guys around !!!!!
by Hitemwithurpurse on Apr 21, 2010 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions
WCF
remember that last year? The whole team lost their minds and Q was part of it. This does look like a team that believes they’re entitled.
If they’re not getting good leadership from the locker room or the coaching staff I have just one question….
WTF is the Great Bowman?!?!?
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a win will....
make me REALLY forget about last night………
by Hitemwithurpurse on Apr 21, 2010 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Not for me
I was unsatisfied after Game 2, because of Game 1 and because it wasn’t that great a win in my mind. I’m not going to forget about last night until we win the series.
He's doing interviews
about Detroit. I find it funny that Scotty’s on our payroll, yet he talks to the media more about what the Wings are doing that anything concerning us. What exactly do we pay him for?
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In the words of Joe McGrath
“you guys are playing like a bunch of pussies.”

When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 8:08 AM CDT reply actions
"I got a good deal on those boys....."
“Reg, I want you to go down to the bus station and pick ’em up………”
by Hitemwithurpurse on Apr 21, 2010 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions
McGrath: Good crowd out there tonight, boys, let’s really try to win this one.
Ned Braden: You have to hand it to the old bastard, he’s highly original.
Jim Ahern: That man traveled 15 hours by bus to say that?
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Is anyone else noticing
that Rinne is trying to over compensate for his huge size by dropping down too early to get to the lower shots? And quit shooting glove side, obviously. Maybe it is just stupid me.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 8:23 AM CDT reply actions
No, its not. Rinne’s a lot better on the glove side than the blocker side. Shoot high left shoulder.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Eddie O pointed it out last night
He telestrated the areas to shoot just as you described them.
by Hitemwithurpurse on Apr 21, 2010 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions
No it's not just you...
Even in the broadcast last night Eddie O busted out the telestrator and picked the areas the Hawks need to be shooting at, and that area is high shoulders.
To paraphrase mjthor
Last night:
“THE SPORTS TEAM FROM THEIR AREA WAS SUPERIOR TO THE SPORTS TEAM FROM OUR AREA.”
"You don't wanna show me nothin'. But you're tellin' me everything."
Sam made a good point
about Eager, yeah that fourth line was hot to end the season but now? Put Burish back in there or once/if Soupy gets back stick Buff’s ass somewhere on there.
And the Brouwer situation as he also pointed out, isn’t helping. I am way happy that Niemi is playing damn well thus far but I also feel as if Q mind fucked Huet into what he has become. Please don’t do the same to a valuable player like Brouwer.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 8:34 AM CDT reply actions
I actually thought the 4th line did okay last night
They some of the few players looked like they cared (and I don’t think that they were, just that they looked that way), and they actually ended up even +/-. I think I saw them generate some pressure in the offensive zone in the 2nd period, which wasn’t happening with any of the other lines.
But I did see Eager take a boneheaded penalty, replacing him with Burish is probably more effective than moving Kop up with Kaner and Sharpie.
It took two periods....
to notice Brouwer. I am I alone here? When I finally saw him I said, “wait a minute, has even been out on the ice for the first period + ?” Was he sat for a reason?
by Hitemwithurpurse on Apr 21, 2010 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions
It's all fuzzy in my brain now
Which line was he playing on? I don’t think he’s ever played that well on any line but the top line. Or the 2nd, at times.
right!!!
Q seemed to get really desperate early on….but they were only down two. Keep the guys that have scored together on their lines so that they can communicate!!!!
by Hitemwithurpurse on Apr 21, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions
That...
…I just didn’t understand. If we were down four, fine — go try and catch lightning in a bottle. But two?
I think it was as much frustration at the Preds’ game plan and not knowing how to counter it — but that just means we were getting totally outcoached. I’ve seen the ‘Hawks beat teams that trapped and teams that forecheck aggressively before. Sure, it’s the playoffs, but if they know how to channel the energy there’s no reason why they couldn’t figure this out.
bumped his ass
down to the 3rd line. Which honestly is our weakest line lately.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Brouwer
Has been largely invisible the entire series, except of course for the terrible turnover that led to the GWG in Game 1. Not sure if the time off hurt him, or if his mind is elsewhere or what, but I’d like to see him reunited with Daydream Nation.
by HungryHungryPanda on Apr 21, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Coach Q
Alright, I’ve seen a few posts hit on this but I’m gonna make this a new post instead of replying.
Anybody who has played, coached, or been around hockey long enough knows that teams take on the characteristics of their coach and we are seeing that right now. Now correct me if I’m wrong but last year in the playoffs Q did not play shuffle-palooza with the lines and the ’Hawks made some nice comebacks in games where they should have been down and out in the third. This is because there was no panic and the players believed they could comeback no matter what.
This year when they are down Q hits shuffle and everything is fucked up in a matter of seconds. The team panics when he does that. They get away from playing the same game for 60 minutes and look like horseshit! I understand the players are the ones playing but constantly being put with new guys on a line means you are constantly re-adjusting and trying to feel confortable. Just stick with lines for two games in a row and allow some chemistry.
Sam is right, Q’s job is not safe and I think we are seeing why St. Louis and Colorado did not win with him. I give it until next March before Scotty Bowman is behind the bench because Q can’t control himself.
- On a side note we are seeing how important Cambell is to the ’Hawks!
by MoeWanchuk on Apr 21, 2010 8:34 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
the tone a coach sets for te team is indeed critical
I still can’t decide what is up with Q
Confusion will be my epitaph.
why wait till next march
fire his ass sunday if the series ends Saturday
The only sin is stupidity
The constant line shuffling was obnoxious in the regular season ...
now it’s downright embarrassing. At some point, you just have to live or die with what you have. There’s no magical combination that’s waiting to be unlocked here. We know what we have and it’s pretty good. Now lets just see if they can break through this Nashville muck and mire.
by Billy Charlesbois on Apr 21, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Breaking thru the muck and mire
I think the Hawks have to stop worrying about what Nashville is doing and get back to what they do best. Which is, I beleive, pressuring the opposing team in their defensive zone.
Watching the Capitals in their last couple games I had to admire the way they come at the opposing team, no holds barred, every shift. They just apply the pressure no matter what the opponent does and assume the “D” will eventually crack & crumble, which it usually does.
I know the Hawks also have the ability to play this type of game, we’ve all seen it. Plus they’re a better team defensively to boot.
I sure hope they can reacquire the cock sure attitude that enabled them to win 50+ games this season and remove the doubt that seems to have creeped into their play.
"You don't wanna show me nothin'. But you're tellin' me everything."
Honestly I think it starts in our zone
We can’t sustain pressure in theirs because we’re pinned in ours. I’ve already expressed my opinion on this but if you think about it, any shift where we spend most of it in ours makes it tough for that line, and the next.
No one envisioned...
…playoff defense including Buff, Sopel, AND Hendry. I like all of these guys, but when that’s half your defense, a bit of keystone kops is not surprising.
by cliffkoroll on Apr 21, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow
you mean something along the lines of smart coaching??
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Durr
Seriously though, I would hate to be coach Q right now. I couldn’t think of a very good game plan for the ’Hawks for Game 4.
Bring in Reggie Dunlop!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
this is part of why Trotz is a better coach
he has the series being played on his terms – Q is reacting and changing things, instead of having his team (which is the higher talent team) playing its own game and making the other one react
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I wonder if Q is focusing on the wrong thing
He’s looking at the lack of offensive production and doing stuff to try to generate it. What’s really happening is a breakdown on D, clearing badly and playing a horrible transition game as a result. It’s impossible to generate offense from that.
It seems like he is
but isn’t he always preaching a defense-first approach to the game? Would he really be getting away from that already after spending 2 years drilling it into the team’s brains? I’m wondering, not necessarily disagreeing with you.
by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Honestly if I were him
and I could do just on thing in practice, I’d work on getting the puck out of the zone against an aggressive forecheck… and maybe even ice the puck every once in a while.
maybe that's the problem
They practice against themselves right? So they look good then but play the big bad Preds in the real game and things don’t work out so well.
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by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
That's exactly what I was trying to say!
Thanks for saying it better for me krome.
"You don't wanna show me nothin'. But you're tellin' me everything."
Sam is right, Q’s job is not safe and I think we are seeing why St. Louis and Colorado did not win with him. I give it until next March before Scotty Bowman is behind the bench because Q can’t control himself.
If the ‘Hawks bow out early expect a sudden change at the helm for the start of next season. I can’t believe for one second that he’ll be here if they don’t move on. At season’s end the players usually meet with the front office and I’m sure there won’t be many vouching to have Q kept on. The knives will most certainly be out.
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And it won’t be Scotty Bowman either to replace him. Don’t be suprised if the ’Hawks lean towards a Dan Byslma kind of coach in Mike Haviland. The PK has been amazing this year and his personality would be a welcome suprise in that dressing room.
I’m sure the yelling and screaming childish rants have drawn deaf ears by now. Kind of “Yah. Whatever. Fuck off.”
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That's actually a bit reassuring
My worst fear, as far as coaching changes go, is that you get a worse one.
Hard to imagine that with Haviland. Unless he decides to change lines during the anthem.
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i just have 2 questions
if they make a change:
Will the PP inprove?
Does he have a ’stache?
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Success is our only mother f*ing option, failure's not
Danny Bylsma is an all around fabulous human being
The Hawks would be well served by someone like him
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Q said the Preds were more resilient
Ok, if thats what he wants to call it. Bottom line is the Preds were the better team last night. That does not mean they will be the better team Thursday night. It seems as if alot of the Hawk players did not know their role last night (Versteeg as pest? Isnt that Burish’s job? or Eager or Fraser. Does Sharp really need to be the guy that looks pissed off and had enough at the end of the game. I know someone has to do it… but Sharpie? I completely agree with Sams statements on Buff, Brouw and Johnny T.
Victim was found murdered by a Chelsea Dagger.
Only thing I'd say about Sharpie
Is I wish I’d seen that fire on the ice. I’ve seen it from him, and not that long ago either. But for what went down, I’m glad to see that emotion from him. The whole team could’ve used some.
One thing I'd say about Sharpie
…game 2, Vancouver, Hawks trailing the series 1-0- Sharpie put the team on his fuckin’ back!
This is just one of dozens of appealing scenarios, many involving puppies and rainbows, for Thursday night.
gotta wait
when we’re down 3-1 in the series, then it’s unicorn time.
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Yes, that,
cause there is nothing more majestic than a beautiful unicorn running around the countryside with fresh blood dripping from it’s wondrous horn.
I was also just referring to the rarity of unicorns themselves. It’s not like they grow on trees or anything. Have to use them wisely.
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so, based upon rarity
you aren’t even getting to considering trying to sacrifice a virgin?
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Nah,
because you can’t really tell who’s a virgin-virgin anymore, with all those wacky kids re-swearing their virginity. I’d hate to get to the sacrificial altar and find out I’d brought a second-ran virgin instead of a pure, fresh one.
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they say that's why the Druids died out
but really, you were thinking of just taking their word for it?
no woner the gods are always angry these days, gullibility is pandemic.
Confusion will be my epitaph.
The gods are also angry
because of the shitty 3D job on Clash of the Titans.
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I thought it was
the crappy dialouge.
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Success is our only mother f*ing option, failure's not
the longest
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Why do I get the feeling
that it’ll take this to see us play like men possessed? I still see us winning Game 4 but it’s going to be an ugggggly win.
We seem to have the marked cornered on that this year.
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Yes, this is true,
much like getting cock-blocked from a fat girl at the bar during closing time.
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Resilient?
Seriously? They were far from resilient. They were given turnover after turnover because the ‘Hawks decided to not take part in anything physical whatsoever (except Versteeg’s elbow).
The ’Hawks play was lethargic and unacceptable, not resiliency in the Predators part. They {the Preds} have a gameplan, stuck to it, and eventually won the game.
Hard work paid off just like it has for most of the season for Nashville.
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so SJ and DET won last night
so i guess that means VAN and CHI even up their respective series’ in game 4??
100%
agree with what Sam said in the recap. Was gonna come on here this morning and let all my frustration go, but he beat me to the punch. I’ve been saying the shit about the lines since the regular season. When you shuffle the shit outta them, there’s no cohesion and no familiarity with who’s playing with you. You can see it when Q shuffles them, then either there’s three guys going for the puck, or we hit each other trying to go into the offensive zone.
Don’t get me started on the stupid penalties in the first either. Especially Versteeg’s penalty for leaving his feet on the hit. Country-dumb is right.
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He didn't leave his feet
That’s what they originally thought but they replayed the hit and it turned out to be an elbow to the head.
Where was that physical
play from periods one and two of game 1 and all of game 2? They were backchecking/winning pucks off the boards. Then game 3 they abandoned everything they had done right last game. That or Trotz and his team adjust and Q couldn’t acclimatize the team. Which if that is the case no wonder he hasn’t gotten into the Stanley Cup finals.
That was a painful game.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 8:54 AM CDT reply actions
After reading most of the comments....
I have a few thoughts.
-Ladd has been a waste of time on that top line, get him off of it and move him back down with Madden and Versteeg. Let’s get Brouwer involved again, put him up on the top line with Kane and Toews, and let Bolland Sharp and Hossa have another go on the second line.
-We are getting ZERO offensive production from our Dmen. Our transition game was dreadful, our zone entry was pathetic. None of our Dmen skated last night, Dunc included. I disagree with the idea that Dunc was our best Dman last night, I thought it was Hammer. Dunc was not skating last night; just because he laid a couple big hits does not mean he had a good game. Enough of the long passes out of our zone, someone has to skate……I miss Soup.
-I could care less what Q does with the fourth line and who he scratches. If our top two lines don’t get going, then it isn’t going to matter anyway.
-If Versteeg really was our top forward last night, that certainly isn’t saying much. He pulled off a couple of nifty moves at the blue line, but there were quite a few plays he made that were terrible. Example……late in the game, 3 on 1, and he shoots a soft wrister from the top of the circle right at Rinne’s mask. How about a hard low shot, or a pass to set something up. Getting pucks to the net is generally good, but Steeg somehow displays the ability to turn a good principle into a wasted scoring opportunity.
Ditto for CNS
by Hack on Apr 21, 2010 8:58 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Well said
I saw Ladd as a Brouwer replacement… and we all know Ladd isn’t having as good a year this year. The regular season is when you punish a player for a Game 1-type mistake. Not now. Stick to your guns. Not that it means anything to Q.
I may be taking Hjammer for granted at this point. His defense-first mentality and ridiculous amount of effort and ability in executing it has earned him much love from me. That said, our transition game has been awful for a while now, and while missing Soupy has something to do with it and it’s not Hjammer’s game, somebody besides Keith has to step up in that department.
Agreed on the fourth line. I thought they did fine and brought some energy, even if it didn’t transfer. But if we’re counting on them for production… you know the drill.
I think the thing about Versteeg was that he actually looked like he was playing hard, until the boneheadedness returned. Again, “looking like playing hard” and “playing hard” are not one and the same, but that’s what it seemed like.
I rec you because you said what I wanted to sat before I said it
and you said it better
Chewing gum?
Did you really think Dunc was that solid last night?
He was on the ice for 2 odd man rushes. 1 Niemi was able to snuff out, but Legwand scored on the other. You can blame Seabs or Steeg for Legwand’s goal, but I definitely thought Dunc was partially responsible on the first breakaway.
I thought Dunc was as guilty as anyone when it came to crossing his own blueline and floating with the puck and/or trying to make a long entry pass from his own zone. I just didn’t think he had his legs and I didn’t think that he was his usual self in transition.
I’m not blaming everything on Dunc, I just didn’t think he had the game that others thought he did.
Ditto for CNS
He was our best D man
but he didn’t play like Norris-caliber Duncs. He played with emotion, but when a mediocre Keith is your best D man, you’ve got problems.
He played solid D.
He is not having much impact offensively yet, and that is the problem.
But nobody is having much impact offensively, so is it Keith’s fault? How much does he have to do?
Even Bobby Orr had some help right?
Chewing gum?
I think I mentioned this earlier
You said it better, but he really isn’t getting the help. Unless we think he should be taking the puck in and shooting himself, which he had a couple of chances to do, I’m not sure how much more he can do, effort-wise. He might’ve had a so-so game by his (very high) standards but a lot of the other guys were worse.
He was the prettiest girl
in an ugly contest.
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Agree very much
Along the lines of versteeg’s shooting, i’ve kind of suspected for awhile that we are good a creating shots but actually a mediocre to poor shooting team. I’ve never seen a team that can be so prolific at controlling the puck in the o-zone (not last night) yet, at times, so incompetent at putting the puck in the net.
We’re like a baseball team that gets tons of guys on base, yet can’t score.
by SLoop on Apr 21, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Spot on
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
A stat to ponder
Chicago was the 3rd best goal scoring team in the league this season:
TEAM………………GOALS SCORED
1) Washington………………..313
2) Vancouver…………………..268
3) Chicago……………………..262
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defense wins
championships?
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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
but we're playing good defense
we only gave up 4 last night to an offensive juggernaut
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Great coverage
like Peanut Tillman right?
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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
but that's because of the number of shots we generated.
We’re 8th in shooting percentage with 9.68%. Washington leads with 11.80% followed by Vancouver with 10.73%
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by chiblackhawks on Apr 21, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Lines
I generally subscribe to the ‘ride what got you there’ theory, but since Q’s most likely juggling anyway, why not throw my hat in the ring? With the lack of consistent offense generated from any line last night, I’m starting to wonder if I’d put all my eggs in one basket for Game 4. I’d entertain the idea of icing Kane-Toews-Hossa on the top line, at least to start the game. You’d have your two forwards that are currently playing the best out there with your best down-low board guy/faceoff guy, who I can’t imagine will no-show again. Sure, someone ends up playing the off-wing, but Kane’s better than anyone else you can pair with Toews-Hossa right now. It seems to be the best shot they have at generating consistent puck possession and scoring chances.
That’d leave you with a Sharp-Bolland-Versteeg second line, which would be a dice roll for offensive production, but would seemingly do a solid defensive job. I guess from there you’d go LaddenBrouw third and Roulette fourth, and hope both lines could just out-effort and out-physical the Preds 51% of the time or more.
I guess my thought process here is that it’s said in situations like this that your top players have to be the difference makers, so why not try to give them the best chance?
by Hjammer of the Gods on Apr 21, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
The reason I'd like to put Hossa with Bolland and Sharp
is because Hossa is our best all around winger. Let him make Bolland better.
Ditto for CNS
That's certainly one way of looking at it
But if I’m two games away from hitting the links, I don’t think I have time to hope one guy can make another better. In crunch time, I want my heaviest artillery on the forefront.
by Hjammer of the Gods on Apr 21, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
They are falling in to the Pred "Trap"
and I don’t mean Neutral zone trap. I mean they are baiting and the trapping our Blackhawks in to playing the style the Predators want. This is not what I signed up for, and I want my Hawk offense back.
HOWEVER, Give the Preds credit, they are playing ’"Their" game very well.
Our guys look confused again, like they did in March and now the mad scientist is going to starting to fuck around.
Ladd is a board worker, not a net guy. Brouwer is the net guy. Buff is the net guy. Let Toews, Ladd, and/or Hossa work the boards, but not all at the same time.
Our D needs to play their O game with more speed. If our forwards have to stop at the blue line because our D is so slow bring the puck up, then the dump and chase to beat the trap is not going to work. If the forwards are moving as they hit the blueline, that is when the dump and chase can be very effective, and the Hawks speed will probably overwhelm the Preds. If the dump is the way that Q thinks we can beat this trap, then do it right.
I could not agree more regarding Buff. Run 5 D for gods sake, but don’t out this guy out as a D ever again. I think he’s got 15 or less games as a Hawk left here so use him where he is best, in front of Rinne. Shit give him skate weights so he can’t move from that spot.
This is far from over, but it’s closer than it needs to be and one more game like last night and I’m going to be bored for a while.
Chewing gum?
Buff already
has skate weights. Can’t you tell by the way he moves on the ice? HAHAHA
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The Preds' game plan
is more low maintenance, I think. (Insert car / gun / person reference here)
The ‘Hawks have a puck possession game that’s difficult to adjust from, I think. The Preds were able to shift to a slightly more aggressive version of their game and pulled it off with great success, but the ‘Hawks have to change, structurally, to keep up. Unfortunately that’s much harder to do — it’s just playing harder or shading more offensively or defensively.
If Keith stops looking for a Hail Mary Pass
and gets the puck to the center line and shoots it in while Ladd, Hossa Toews, Sharp, Kane, etc are moving with speed instead of standing still, they will beat this team. The stretch pass is not going to work against these guys at this point.
If not, then they will be lucky if they do.
I only use Keith because he is our best guy, but the same can be said of all of them, except Soopel, because he can only move so fast, and that is not really why he is out there.
Chewing gum?
Seems like our entries were really broken yesterday
It always looked like we had one guy in there, maybe one guy trying to crash the net, but we’d immediately lose possession of it by the time we had anybody else arrive…
This.
I agree, the time on attack was terrible. They either couldn’t hold the puck in or were one and done with shots.
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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Some points:
- Completely agree that Buff had is head almost completely up his ass. He not only played like a confused junior, you could his facial expressions matched the physical aspect.
- Agreed that the Preds worked their asses off. I don’t care how much talent a team has; if they get out-worked, out-hustled on every play, they lose. For all the potential complexity of hockey, at it’s core is a simple truth: the team that gets to the open pucks has a much higher likelihood of success. I’m still waiting for the Hawks to beat a Predator to a loose puck.
- If this is the boys’ ploy to save me a shitload of money on the balance of playoff tickets to which I’m committed, let me just say: “I’’ve already budgeted it, fellas. It’s a nice thought, but if it’s all the same to you I’m happy giving Rocky my money for all four rounds.”
teaching respect for the Indian, one Red Wing fan at a time.
Eh,
I want them to win the Cup, but don’t want Rocky to get anymore money. He’s already bleeding us dry with the increases. Plus we’re losing our “privileges” now also.
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Not really. If you can't afford or don't want to pay the increases,
there’s a line of people behind you who are willing to do so.
They aren’t bleeding anyone dry, they’re responding to the market.
That’s life.
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Econ 101
"Price. A fair price. That’s not what you say it is, and it’s not what I say it is… It’s what the market will bear."
Leonard Smalls, Raising Arizona
and didn't they cut the prices
after the Old Man passed to get people back? I think it’s reasonable for them to raise ticket prices. They’re still middle of the league in cost right?
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What "privileges" are we losing, pray tell?
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Yes,
Rocky is increasing the prices to fall in line with the rest of the league. But the ticket prices have more than doubled over these past two seasons. Three years ago, sitting where we sit was around $700 per seat for the year. Last year they went up to close to 1200, and next year is going to be 1600. The legacy discount was also eliminated for long-time ticket holders.
As far as season-ticket holder perks that aren’t there or have been changed, first, the discount at Hawkquarters (will never refer to it by the new, retarded name). It used to be 10% just for season ticket holders. Now, either you can join the fan club, or just have a Harris card, and you get that. The party used to be at the United Center, and have free parking and food and more access to players. Now it’s at Navy Pier, where you pay for parking and food. And there used to be a nice gift at the end of the season, such as part of the glass from the rink or a nice set of leather coasters. Now, nothing.
I am not going to complain that the prices shouldn’t have gone up, because for years we were the lowest. Now that the team is better, there is more demand, and you can charge more. My thing is the rapid increase, and the loss of the benefits we used to hold.
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Don't know about you but I got
a very nicely framed picture of Savvy, Stosh, Espo & Hull from opening night. My impression was it went to all season-ticket holders.
That’s not “nothing.”
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I personally
did not get one, so I cannot say.
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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
I never noticed the change in "perks"
because I never really took advantage of them, but that’s just a personal choice.
As far as the ticket prices go, I do agree that they have gone up considerably (at least in terms of percentage increase for the the 300 level seats I sit in) from just a few years ago. Sure it would be great to have prices stay lower, but that’s not what the market demands right now. So it comes down to do I think the product on the ice is worth the increased price, assuming I’m in a financial position to be able to pay?
So far the answer for me has been yes, even if this playoff run goes south.
However, if last years playoff run turns out to be the “peak” for this team (which I doubt it was) there better not be another increase anywhere on the horizon, or i’ll be having serious doubts about renewing again after next year.
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That won't be the peak
Even if the capocalypse happens, we have a really young core — maturity can do some amazing things.
Golf sucks.
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by chrome on Apr 21, 2010 9:41 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
agreed, to quote the great philosopher Happy Gilmore
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by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
This isn't the way I wanted us to be recognized
But Puck Daddy called us “One of the most prominent Blackhawks blogs” today.
They skated the whole game as if they were entitled to something
Not to pile on, but Wysh did a much better job illustrating my point from earlier.
A lot of this criticism is hyperbolic, based on the preconception that the Blackhawks were a predestined Western Conference finalist and that the Predators were a pushover outside of Rinne.
THATS what I meant. :)
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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
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If your guys keep playing like they are……………………..
They just won’t, I can’t believe it.
Chewing gum?
Not sure what you mean there.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
You’re entitled to your opinion. I don’t think they can do it for seven games, but four is not out of the question, is it?
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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
If we lose to the Preds
I will easily throw all my support behind them, as they will have earned it.
by puppetmasterp on Apr 21, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
They are playing an awesome right now
It’s not an opinion, its right there in front of all of us to see.
Just because I refuse to believe something, doesn’t mean it not happening. Except this time.
Chewing gum?
I know they’re playing awesome, I just don’t think we win this in five or six, probably not even in seven.
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"What do you think this is? Major League Baseball?"- Shea Weber
by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
SAY WHAT?!?!!!111
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"What do you think this is? Major League Baseball?"- Shea Weber
by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
That ‘TEH PREDZ GET NO RISPECT!’ ??
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"What do you think this is? Major League Baseball?"- Shea Weber
by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
TEY DONT TRAP!!!!!!1
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"What do you think this is? Major League Baseball?"- Shea Weber
by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Can we kill this photo for good?
Please.
2010 PLAYOFFS: ROUND ONE
The triumphant achievement or death sentence for the Niemisis.
I get it now
It’s payback for all our uses of the word TRAP.
Trap trap trap
Trap the trapping trappers
Definitely. Also, Niemi was pretty good last night except on Erat’s goal.
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"What do you think this is? Major League Baseball?"- Shea Weber
by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
at that point in the game
I rather take the PS rather than a 2 minute PP in hopes Niemi saves it and we can try and get a goal with the momentum of the PS save. Obviously it didn’t work that way
September 26, 2007 The day a Franchise was reborn.
How come
No one ever mentions Weber’s bomb? That guy has a nasty shot. Al McI like haha
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Just read chi's recap on Blackhawks DL
Said something about us generating 70% of our quality chances on the PK. Blackhawks PP indeed.
I’m thinking, we should just take a 60 minute PP next game. Not only will we generate more chances, Weber might take out a Pred or two with his own shot
well
he killed Hornqvist. so +1 for us, oh wait we gave up 4 goals…
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Third fastest in league history. He’s broken two feet and one leg on his own teammates with it, and now apparently something of Hornqvist’s.
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"What do you think this is? Major League Baseball?"- Shea Weber
by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Snapped a bone in Marty Erat’s leg last year with it. Broke Tootoo (sad, I know)’s foot earlier this season. He makes up for it with goals, though.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
so you're saying
he can hit the crap out of it but can’t aim it.
gotcha
SCH Resident Idiot
Success is our only mother f*ing option, failure's not
by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
23 and 16 goals says otherwise.
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"What do you think this is? Major League Baseball?"- Shea Weber
by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
you've been around here long enough
you should be able to pickup on the sarcasm by now
SCH Resident Idiot
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by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
do you remember Dennis Hull?
a few hundred goals – but not even the organist was safe when he wound up.
Aim? Well, most shots went somewhere in front of him.
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Bobby Douglas
was the Dennis Hull of football, which might tell the young ’uns something if they knew anything about Bobby D.
So I guess my analogy is a fail before it even begins. Oh well.
teaching respect for the Indian, one Red Wing fan at a time.
The phrase
“with friends like these…” comes to mind.
I see a future career move for Sopel. Future Preds forward. He can hang out in front of the net and you don’t have to worry about injuring him.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe he'll break a LEGwand next
(sorry, couldn’t resist)
by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm pretty sure he his face last year
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by Aditya T (smashville) on Apr 21, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Weber hit Legwand in the face with a shot last year?
That explains so much. That kinda ugly can’t be natural causes alone.
by HungryHungryPanda on Apr 21, 2010 2:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
that was SO bad
it made me laugh; first time today. Being as how I’m so crabby today, that’s saying something. So, I must rec this.
ding ding ding
we have a winner
Someone laughed on SCH today
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
If they show up and at least match the effort level of a team that now surely believes it can take this, they have a good chance of getting out of this series alive.
For me, this is the biggest problem. Even if the Hawks can right the ship, they’ve given the Preds a huge amount of confidence. Confidence leads to success and mystically heightened playing abilities. The Hawks can play their collective asses off tomorrow night, but I doubt the Preds are going to lay down and die. I expect it will be quite a dogfight no matter how well we play.
Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 10:32 AM CDT reply actions
Yup, it's going to be an ugly win.
I predict Erat is going to pot an own-goal on Rinne in the 2nd overtime. You read it here first.
Where is Matt Fucking Walker when you need him
At least we knew it was all his fault.
Christ it’s not even Huet.
We need a scapegoat. That’s it! A GOAT, but not what you think.
They should all shave except for the Goatee. I’ll bet that gets us over the top.
I’m shaving now.
Chewing gum?
Nice recap, Sam
Have to agree with Toews. We’re not seeing the same guy who was the best forward at the Olympics. He lost board battles. He RARELY loses board battles.
I hate when they lose.
I know
I saw you posting a lot this morning and was surprised. :)
by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Massive procrastination
I’m the only one in the office this morning, so I’m slacking off on the stuff I’m supposed to do by the afternoon. Well, that, and I’ve never had so many conference calls in one day before. My job requires me to have lunch at my desk, I guess I’ll turn that into work time.
I want to be optomistic....
…but I have a very bad feeling about this series.
I’ll go out on a limb and say whoever wins Thursday’s game wins the series, but I am getting the same feeling about this club that I had with the President Trophy winning Hawks team in 91, and they got launched in the first round against a team with about 40 less points.
If they end up losing this series, it will be a big dissppointment, but it won’t be the huge upset that the media is talking about. The Preds won 47 games and the Hawks won 52, and that is not a huge difference over 82 games.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
I hated the expectations
I love this team but I for one never thought they were “entitled to something.” We haven’t won since ‘61 and haven’t proven a thing with this thing, other than potential. And that means nothing if left unrealized.
Saying who wins Thursday wins like like saying whoever converts a 5 on 3 wins the game, but playing the probabilities it’s a no-brainer. I expect to see Game 7 ’Hawks in Game 4.
Dissapointing yes
I’ve tried to distance myself from reading/posting too much. I’m holding off b/c I’m still a littled pissed off, not the expectations or anything, but just that they didn’t come to play. I’m just ready for Thursday, so no more BS. I usually stay away from reading much after a loss, but lets hope that they come to play! Enough of my b.s for now.
I have to disagree a little
I definitely don’t think a Cup or a trip to the WCF is a given or something the team is entitled to.
However, I think the team has built up expectations by their play for most of the season and their talent level. We know this is a good team, on paper and in person. We’ve seen them play better than this. I feel it’s reasonable to expect them to play to their potential and skill level and to be disappointed when they don’t.
by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Potential and skill level yes
Mental strength, we’ll see. I think they’ve got it, and Game 4 will show it. Getting out of this series will earn them their stripes.
In some ways, given their habit of “playing down to the perceived level of opposition,” I’m not that surprised this is happening. I feel like we’d be doing better if we played Scum in the first round.
agree about game 4
Stan (or Daddy or whoever the eff runs things) should pay close attention to how each person plays.
SCH Resident Idiot
Success is our only mother f*ing option, failure's not
by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
But my own expectations are sometimes a little higher. I always hold and take to heart a loss. It’s not that they lost, it’s more of the fact of HOW they lost. If they are going to lose the series, i’ll get over it in the summer and get ready for the next year. I’m TRYING not to think that way, i’m just stating that being a little dissapointed like you said because of there potential and the skill level. Now put that together and knowing from seeing them play it gives me an ulcer ha.
Thats another reason, why my own expectations for Thursday will come from expecting them to outwork the Preds, from the little board battles, to moving the puck out the zone, etc..
I'll add...
…if (and its a big if) the Hawks win on Thursday, I say they win the series in 6.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Since you mentioned the '91 team
the following year, the team that went to the finals, also started down 2-1 in the opening round…and went on to win in six. Yeah I know that has NOTHING to do with living in the now, but 2-1 doesn’t mean – series over…which is the same way I would’ve felt if the Hawks would’ve won last night.
Sure, I was extremely disappointed. I turned it off right after Erat hit the back of the net on the PS. But the series is still far from over. A lot of people (particularly ones that discovered this year that Chicago had a hockey team) in typical Chicago-sports fan armageddon style, act like we’re down 3-0…it might be a one game difference, but it’s far different from the current situation we’re in.
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
I also correlate...
…this to both Hawks Blues series from 1990 and 1992. In 90, the Hawks went down 2-1 and won in 7. In 92 they went down 2-1 and won 3 straight. In fact before game 4 in 1992, I recall Keenan got pissed at the club during the practice before game 4 and walked out of the rink and sat outside. I remember the TV crews catching him sitting by himself in the parking lot.
The Hawks need to wake themselves up here and only they can do it. Something has not been quite right with this club since sometime in February, and I wonder if they have it in them at this particular time to dig down. If they do, they will win the series, but they won’t do it on just talent alone.
"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel
Interesting thought
Saw somebody suggest that we ice the Kane-Toews-Hossa line again and have everybody else focus on defense.
If this team fears the Sharks so much, maybe loading up our top line is a good idea?
That'd be me
I’d just as soon stick with the lines as they were going in, but we’re talking Q here. He’s probably at work creating another ‘this thing’ as we speak, so I figured why not throw out some thoughts. In a series where offense has been at a premium, I just wondered if there was any merit in icing a top line that didn’t have a proverbial albatross on it. And it wasn’t so much that the rest just focus on defense, more that the other 3 lines in that scenario should in theory be fairly capable defensively.
by Hjammer of the Gods on Apr 21, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
What's funny is the only teams I feared were the Nucks and the Scum.
Know who I fear the most now? The Hawks.
I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
isn't that the old Gump Worsley joke?
While playing for for some consistently poor New York squads, HOF goalie Worsley was asked which team game him the most trouble. His answer, of course, was “the Rangers”.
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Didn't know that, but it applies here.
Even Sassone was tough in his blog. “We waited 6 months for this?” Ouch.
I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
by Preacher000 on Apr 21, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
heh. As media conscience as McD is
I hope he’s seeing/hearing all of this.I don’t think even he is saying right now “at least they’re talking about us.” Worst words to describe a team is No Heart
SCH Resident Idiot
Success is our only mother f*ing option, failure's not
by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I really don't think Versteeg looked impressive at all
He had a few good plays entering the zone, but when his only mindset is making a flashy play entering the zone, hes going to get lucky a few times. I noticed multiple times last night him holding the puck too long trying to make the extra move as opposed to dishing it off or simply dumping it in low.
Not to mention
His laziness getting back on the Legwand goal. He skated hard almost the whole way, the pulled up. One or two more hard strides and he puts himself into a position to either dive and knock down that pass, or reach his stick out and tap it away.
The only person
That gave a shit last night was Keith! For that I applaud him
by Buttfudge on Apr 21, 2010 12:19 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I thought Niemi played well except...
for that penalty shot. Is it just me or did anyone notice that Antti was way too far in his net and hunched over making himself small with his glove hand pretty low. He was almost begging Erat to go high glove side. That’s fine if he expects to stop it, but he was beaten pretty easily with a lot of room to spare for Erat to shoot up top. Has this always been Niemi’s shootout style and I just haven’t noticed it before?
Buff is being Buff again....lazy and semi-raatarded
Bolland…….is that really him out there???
Coach Q is opening the door for Mr Bowman
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
The Buff on defense project needs to end...
Put him on the third or fourth line and let him be lazy in front of Rinne’s net rather than ours. Then at least he has a chance to do some good rather than coughing up scoring chances to the wrong teams forwards.
"...the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck. It's a series of tubes." - Sen. Ted Stevens
ok...ok...I got it
….this is where Huet starts and we ride him to the cup!!!
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
salt/wounds
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by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
hmm
maybe if he suggested putting Huet on defense…
or on a line… But speaking of acid…
I must be having one hell of a flashback. Kopecky is scoring PP goals and we’re down in the series but none blame the goalie. This can’t be reality
SCH Resident Idiot
Success is our only mother f*ing option, failure's not
The team is playin like crap.......
The talent is there…..jus not motivated….. big juicey contracts…..
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
Hossa fell and lost his helmet too
I hear the Twilight Zone theme playing
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Sported the sadface
When I woke up this morning.
Great write up of what happened last night, and the Blackhawks certainly did not play with enough tempo.
Just a note on the Nashville defense. Did anyone end up with some statistics on the blocked shots last night for Nashville? Even into the third period where the Hawks were able to sustain some pressure in the latter half, it seemed like everything thrown at the net had a body in front of it. We need to screen more and spread their defensive zone coverage out.
I watched the post game interviews with Q, Toews, Madden, and Sharp on the Hawks site this morning when I got into work. I think it’s an understatement to say that every one on that team knows game 4 is a must win. However, I’m waiting for this team to actually play like they have been all season. Hell, even just a couple of weeks ago. Their speed and offensive prowess hasn’t become a factor yet in this series, and I think that’s where our obvious strengths are. Nashville is playing a boring, reactive game where they sit and wait for us to make a mistake. Granted, the Preds have been playing exactly how they’ve wanted to for the majority of this series, and I think last night was their best performance yet.
We need to get back to being confident with the puck, and having their defense be on their heels. This tit for tat bullshit is very annoying, and we’re at a disadvantage when we limit our play to mimicking Nashville’s approach. I fully expect a drastic improvement come Thursday, and will be looking for the Hawks to assertive themselves early.
Well I guess that's my last SCH meet up
At least until next year. I’ve managed to shake bad mojo from apparel items before, so it should work the same way, right? But god damn, I quit drinking, I started going to work early, I bought stuff for homeless people – wtf is wrong with my karma.
Sanguis Bibimus. Corpus Edimus. Tolle Corpus Sharpi.
well...
it was nice seeing/meeting you then… maybe i’ll see you next yr. lopl
fisting barry rozner with every goal!!!
by soupy's spin-o-rama on Apr 21, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I did see KtG
But that was a total accident (as we work in the same building) and should have no bearing on tomorrow’s game.
Sanguis Bibimus. Corpus Edimus. Tolle Corpus Sharpi.
I share that sentiment...
…I can’t believe the Hawks are really this BAD…it’s as if I don’t deserve the Cup. Am I being punished? Well am I? What the fuck is going on here?
The less a man makes declarative statements, the less apt he is to look foolish in retrospect.
Thankfully we're only 3 games through the series
It feels like we’re so much closer to defeat than we actually are. Maybe the hockey gods are just messing with us.
Calling on the captain?
I’m only a blogger (and not a very good one at that), but I’m going to go ahead and call out Jonathan Toews.
You’re not the only one as I have for various parts this season. It really hasn’t been his best of season’s not by a longshot. Don’t know if he’s injured or what but he hasn’t been his usual dominant self. Babcock seemed to get through to him and had Toews playing at his peak during the Olympics where he was the best player in the tournament. The story in Chicago, however, has been completely different.
Let’s face it he is our best player. His will can ultimately decide a series. He is our Crosby and Zetterberg while Kane is our Malkin and Datsyuk. Kane can help us win games but it’s Toews that drives this racecar.
For the ‘Hawks to be successful in this series Jonathan Toews’ will has to be stronger than anyone else’s on both sides and if he does turn it on the there will be no stopping the ’Hawks. As Toews goes, so do the ’Hawks.
2010 PLAYOFFS: ROUND ONE
The triumphant achievement or death sentence for the Niemisis.
One thing the coaching staff has done is successfully hump Troy Brouwer into submission. As the Fifth Feather mentioned tonight, this is a Top-6 forward who poured in over 20 goals this year, and now he can’t find a role?
Reminds me of Rick Nash at the Olympics. How did Babcock get him going? Put him with Toews. Sounds like a perfect solution to me, but Q will obviously disagree. Anything that makes sense doesn’t to Q.
2010 PLAYOFFS: ROUND ONE
The triumphant achievement or death sentence for the Niemisis.
Take Eager out?
But who will take those idiotic penalties that will give the ‘Hawks 2 full minutes to employ their best offensive strategy in this series to date. The PK has had more chances to score than anything 5-on-5 or 4-on-4 and don’t get me started on the PP.
When Kopecky is centreing the second line you know things are bad. Fuck, and I used to complain when Denis Arkhipov was the centre of the 2nd PP unit.
2010 PLAYOFFS: ROUND ONE
The triumphant achievement or death sentence for the Niemisis.
Sharp is centreing the 2nd line
I’m practicing my Canadian English.
by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
You mean you’re practiceing your Canadian English?
by HungryHungryPanda on Apr 21, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
It's simple, really
r before e, except after c
by HungryHungryPanda on Apr 21, 2010 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions
When it comes to English
Canadians have no cerdibility
by HungryHungryPanda on Apr 21, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Gang: I read this blog all the time and don’t post too much so hang in with me.
I’m concerned and as thursday gets closer, i’m getting nervous. Last year coming back from being down was no problem. i don’t see the same intensity that we saw last season and that what makes me nervous. Q shuffliong the lines now is nuts. there’s not consistency. you can do it during the regular season, but in the playoffs there has to be more consistency. I gotta believe that someone in the room steps up and rights the ship. We can’t bow out in the first and I not thinking that we will, but we gotta win thursday. Put kane, toews, and hossa together. That always sparks something.
Sorry if I repeated anything here, but this has beeen theraputic!!!
SCH: cheaper than therapy
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by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Q shuffling the lines now is nuts.
As I said over at Fifth Feather these lines make sense to me. For all those that say it’s not about matchups, so far in this series it has been. Legwand has 5 points in three games.
Playing Sharp at center is one of Coach Q’s trump cards and he is playing it. It allows Bolland to play 3rd line center to match up against Legwand. Then Madden can play 4th line center. And putting Kane and Toews together gives the Preds coach incentive to play Legwand against Toews. I don’t think the Hawks coach can address a matchup problem any better than that…
Also if Campbell comes back this game then you still need Buff in the lineup just in case. Hey you just don’t know how long Soup might last. So in practice Bickel just might be a placeholder for where Buff ends up…
I want to believe you
As I’ve said all along, this team thrives when it defends well, so if you disrupt some offensive chemistry in order to get better defensive play, I would think that would be worth it.
I feel a little antsy about Madden playing 4th line center — I don’t think that’s worked too well this year — and I still have to wonder about splitting up Toews and Hossa. I’m still worried, but given your point I feel a little better about sitting back and watching.

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