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Are We Bound Out Of Obligation? Is That All We Got?: Hawks 1 - Preds 4 Wrap

I'm not going to bother with the linear recap of tonight's game, you all saw it.  So I'll just get straight to the bullet points and observations.

-Before Nashville fans get on my ass, credit is due to a team that came out and wanted it more, worked harder, and was even able to adjust their game.  The Preds were more open, created some opportunities, and fully deserved their win.

-Now that that's out of the way, the Hawks effort was at least in the same neighborhood as despicable.  In a game where you're supposed to come out and prove why you're a favorite for the whole thing, they were outworked, out-thought, and out-everythinged.  They skated the whole game as if they were entitled to something, as if it was just going to come to them, and I quite simply don't know where that's come from.

-Ok, I've had enough of Dustin Byfuglien on defense.  He was indecisive and out of position all night, and I don't really care if 51 Phantom's arm is hanging by a thread, he needs to be out there Thursday.  Fuck, Nick Boynton will be welcome.  This experiment has gone as far as it can.

-That said, Buff was not helped by the Shuffle-palooza that took place in the 3rd period.  When chasing a two-goal deficit perhaps it's not best to have to try and find cohesion amongst a new lineup for 10 minutes.  Mr. Quenneville, if this thing shockingly goes tits-up in this round, do not think for one second your job is safe, as you've done nothing yet to assure us that you're the coach to take us from points B to C.  If a jumble had to be made, it was to put Kane-Toews-Hossa together as that always sparks something.

-One thing the coaching staff has done is successfully hump Troy Brouwer into submission.  As the Fifth Feather mentioned tonight, this is a Top-6 forward who poured in over 20 goals this year, and now he can't find a role?  With no one even coming into the same zip code as Pekka Rinne, can the Hawks really afford to be throwing one of their size-forwards confidence into flames?

-Another reason Buff should go back to forward; he might just actually get to the crease.

-Adam Burish needs to dress ahead of Eager Thursday.

-I'm only a blogger (and not a very good one at that), but I'm going to go ahead and call out Jonathan Toews.  Where were you?  Where have you been?  Whenever this season ends, I'm not the only Hawks fans who's going to be seriously pissed if your best games came for Team Canada instead of the team that's paying you $2.7 million this year and $6.1 million next.  You were a non-factor on the boards tonight.  Your Corsi was even.  Can't help but notice Sidney Crosby is single-handedly dragging his team across the finish line right now.  Sure, you're not as dynamic, but you're supposed to be an inspiration, no?  It had better come soon.

-Kris Versteeg was the best Hawk forward tonight, and yet he was culpable for letting David Legwan waltz right past him for what turned out to be the winner.  Sad.

-I think I'm going to stop waiting for Dave Bolland, because it apparently isn't coming.

-Andrew Ladd was moved to the top line to create traffic in the crease and open up space for Toews and Hossa.  When does that happen, exactly?

-I think Q just shuffled his lines again.

-As vitriolic as this all is, this series is hardly over.  We'll find out what the Hawks are truly made of Thursday.  They've never faced a 2-1 deficit on the road.  The team they are modeled after (whether you like it or not it is Scum) was able to find enough to win tonight to even that series at 2.  If the Hawks' balls are as big as we think they are, they should be fine.  If they're not, then they didn't deserve to win anyway.  Our gut-check has come way earlier than we thought it would, but it's here now.  If the Hawks continue to act as if they've got something coming to them, it'll be an early summer.  If they show up and at least match the effort level of a team that now surely believes it can take this, they have a good chance of getting out of this series alive.  We'll find out in two days.

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Common Hawks!

Get it together! Don’t make me post a “The hawks are golfing!” video of me crying like Luongo last year saying the hawks are golfing over and over! Please don’t NOBODY WANTS TO SEE THAT!!!

Drink it up!

by SharpFTW10 on Apr 21, 2010 1:12 AM CDT reply actions  

HA!

"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon

by HawkVision on Apr 21, 2010 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

also

Madden! Jesus Christ man you were brought to this team for a reason! Please be the Grizzly Captain to set this ship right and avoid the GIANT FUCKING ICEBERG that you are about to hit! Thank you and goodnight!

Drink it up!

by SharpFTW10 on Apr 21, 2010 1:13 AM CDT reply actions  

Ever since

his limo night with stifler’s mom he hasn’t looked too great.

On one kill last night he made at least two boneheaded plays instead of clearing the puck. Perhaps age has caught up

When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Toews

I haven’t seen him play a worse game. He got beat by Nashville defensemen all night. Do you think he might be hurt? I always think of him to be the one to step up and that definitely didn’t happen. Seems really out of character.

by misplacedcanadian on Apr 21, 2010 1:21 AM CDT reply actions  

This was absolute bullshit hockey from our guys tonight

I watched a less talented Nashville team dominate us in all three zones.

did Rinne play great? yes

Did we allow some fucking stupid ass bullshit to happen? ABSOLUTELY

if the Hawks dont cut down on the deficiencies I saw tonight, we dont walk out of this round. I hope you all enjoyed your division champ hats, because that is all you are going to get

TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 1:32 AM CDT reply actions  

I apologize for this seemingly angry post

A.) The game pissed me off B.) I was hammered drunk, and C.) I ran into my ex-fiancee at the bar, whom I havnt seen in years, and yes, it made me want to kill someone

all in all, the three together are not a good combination…but they still played like shit

TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

you need to work in a pick up truck and a train

maybe dragging her down to the tracks to be run over?

You know – think happy thoughts.

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Apr 21, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Funny thing is

I’m 26 and I have 2 ex fiancees, thank god I never went through with the marriages or I would have lost my ass with two divorces

TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 10:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

you do undersand that a string like that

IF IT CONTINUES will eventually require you to looking in the mirror

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Apr 21, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

First one

Cheated on me while I was in the army, second one had a mild psychotic break after her parents divorced and developed a severe drinking problem, and she left me because she wanted to drink her ass off and party all the time ( this was a complete 180 from when I met her)

TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 10:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Number 1

I’m a sucker for pretty, sarcstic girls who are well endowed

TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 10:47 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think you need a new type

this one doesn’t seem to be working out so well for you

by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Possibly

Maybe I should drop Sarah Spain a line. Hot, sarcastic, stacked… right in my wheelhouse. You think she would mind being divorced in a couple years? Meh, at least she’ll get a free ring out of it

TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 11:14 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Seeing as you haven't made it to the altar yet

I don’t think you have to worry about the divorcing part. I sincerely hope you got the first two rings back…

by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

even better

did you recycle the first one?

by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

First one

I didn’t even want back because I was so fucking pissed, the second one I sold then used the money to take my gf at the time shopping on Michigan ave

TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 11:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

whoa
take my gf at the time shopping

that was pretty quick. or did it take some time to get the ring back?

SCH Resident Idiot
Success is our only mother f*&#ing option, failure's not

by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I held it for over a year

Sat in a desk drawer, I found it one day and decided to unload it

TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 11:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oy vey
take my gf at the time shopping on Michigan ave

Ok, I’m seeing a problem here. You are way too nice to not very nice girls. Even if it was money from a tiny ring, she can buy her own clothes, etc.

by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm a cynical misanthropic smartass

Bastard, I gotta give them something for putting up with me

side note, I didn’t even realize Brouwer played last night, and they need to tie Q down and force shave the stache, I think it’s been making decisions for too long and the power has gone to it’s…follicles

TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 12:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

or just find someone who likes

cynical misanthropic smartass bastards who are also sox fans. it’s much cheaper.

The stache has disappointed me so far in the series. however, I could not imagine looking at Q wihtout it.

by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

have to keep the 'stache

all recent championship-winning coaches here have one.

SCH Resident Idiot
Success is our only mother f*&#ing option, failure's not

by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

SCH dictionary ...

cynical: see misanthropic
misanthropic: see cynical
smartass: see misanthropic cynic
cynical misanthropic smartass: see BigC

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

so ... he's cubed?

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Apr 21, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

well endowed?

was she a penis tucker??

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was talking about titties, CNS

Not penises….what made you think of tucking penises? You’re an odd fellow

TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 11:16 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

And we have a

Palamino.

teaching respect for the Indian, one Red Wing fan at a time.

by 334Rules on Apr 21, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Palamino on the boobs?

Or the dick tucking? I always thought boobs were welcome here since we had a discussion about shaving clams

TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 11:25 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I've certainly seen a number of wienie tucker comments too

several referring to Rick Nash alone

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Apr 21, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Number of comments on today's SCH thread: 307

Number of successful jokes: -1

So a horse walks into the bar…

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

You’re an odd fellow

Newsflash. This just in …

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I suppose

That’s about as obvious as pointing out that Todd Bertuzzi is a fuckdoodle who torture harmless critters in his basement for fun

TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 11:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

but he feels remorse afterward, right?

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

If by "remorse"

You mean “sexual arousal” the I’d say yes

TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 11:37 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

wow

you do know you can just date them right? you don’t have to propose?

by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

my parents each are on their 3rd

my aunt her 4th. and they all wonder why my sister and I are still single.

isn’t burpchelischili (no relation to me) on his 3rd or 4th?

by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol, yeah, 4th

First, got pregnant by a drinking buddy, almost lost a drinking buddy there.
Second, got pregnant by one of 9 guys that she partied with the night we got married.
Third, after 12 years told me her fiancee was getting jealous.
Fourth, so far, so good…

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on Apr 22, 2010 5:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

i probably would have never gotten married again

i may actually never get married now after hearing that.

by puppetmasterp on Apr 22, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, your SOs

wouldn’t be going out and getting pregnant, so it would have to play out rather differently for you

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Apr 22, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never give up...

Never surrender!
Or in the words of my semi-psycho uncle Larry, (told to me when I was 12 years old) “Never regret a single fucking thing in your past… You did it for a reason, now learn from it, or just fucking die and get it over with.”

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on Apr 22, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

What!

When did this rule start!
Fuck!
Now I find out I’ve been doing it wrong!

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on Apr 22, 2010 5:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh, and thanks for sharing this

it helps take my mind off that fucking disaster that was game 3.

by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Glad my

Relationship/ women problems can be of assistance. I’m not much in a hockey mood. Btw thank you Sam for calling out the captain and the shuffle wizard. Buff pissed me off, and for the love of fucking sonny Jesus can we stop trying for the breakaway and get patient and actually organize a motherfucking offense?

TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 1:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think it happened at some point in the 3rd period thread

But not only did you want to kill someone, I believe you mistook CNS for a puppy and shot him in the head

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I apparently missed the thread were this "BigC mistook ______ for a puppy" reference was born

can someone fill me in?

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

dont remember being on third period thread

TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didnt rip you apart for something

did I?

TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

so what was the reference regarding?

I’ve seen it come up a few times

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Note

My avatar and signature. Some people yell at the TV during a PP, some throw things, I shoot puppies (figuratively)

TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 10:34 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

ahhhh, duh!

sometimes 1 + 1 is the most difficult calculation

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Having had a few hours go by

I declare myself over this one and looking forward to Thursday night. These things happen. They’ll get through it.

Did it make much sense for Q to start juggling? No, not really; it was like a guy who gets off the highway when it’s backed up looking for a shortcut, only to find that traffic is just as bad on the side roads, plus now he’s dealing with stop lights. But you know what? The Hawks weren’t winning that game anyway. It’s irritating but ultimately a moot point.

Similarly, I’m not going to work myself into a lather over “effort”. They played very sloppy, and occasionally stupidly, but more than anything they just had a shitty game. It happens – and has happened – to everyone. Detroit, San Jose, Washington, Pittsburgh, we’re all looking at you, too. It’s the first time the Hawks have had one for a few weeks (no, I don’t count game 1), and it was bound to happen sooner or later. I wish it would have come at a more opportune time, but then again, there’s no really opportune time for it to happen in the playoffs. They’ll rebound, and be better in game 5.

Bottom line is, they laid a giant egg against Vancouver in game 3 last year, and while it’s true that they had the luxury of game 4 at home then, it’s also true that Vancouver 2009 was vastly superior to Columbus 2010. And the same is true of Chicago 2009 vs. Chicago 2010. Can they sit back and assume they’re going to turn it around? Of course not. But at the same time, as frustrating as this was tonight, I’m done freaking out about it.

by Brian C on Apr 21, 2010 1:56 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Sure hope the Hawks realize

that “it” doesn’t just happen and that their effort was for shit this game. Can they win this series? Yeah I think they can. Will they win it thinking this was just a freaky game and all they have to do is wait for Tinkerbell to come throw some Vancouver 2009 game 4 fairy dust on them and make it all better? Fuck no.

by husler777 on Apr 21, 2010 2:20 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well said.

Bottom line is, calm down – I expect a good effort Thursday…

But bring your brass balls, cuz it’s probably goin OT.

"My name is Byfuglie33, and I am a RCG..."

by Byfuglie33 on Apr 21, 2010 6:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sensing some anger here...

As it should be! Spot on with all points, Sam. My hope is that as PO’d as we all are, the Hawks are even angrier. They had better be ashamed of the way they played this game. It was embarrassing. And Q better go see the Wizard for some brains. He looks like a pee wee coach out there puking up his line combinations.

Today was a total vomitous sports day—we lose, the Sharks win, the Cubs get smoked, and Scum wins. I’m going to be in a bad mood for a while.

I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.

by Preacher000 on Apr 21, 2010 1:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Great post ...

Series is definiately not over, but after that game, we all needed a Howard Beale moment.

“I DON’T HAVE TO TELL YOU THINGS ARE BAD! EVERYBODY KNOWS THINGS ARE BAD!”

by Billy Charlesbois on Apr 21, 2010 2:00 AM CDT reply actions  

I kept hoping the Preds would make it in to double digits in goals

Just for a chance our guys would show up next game. Tonight was despicable. I’ve watched EVERY single minute of EVERY single game this season and tonight I literally wanted to turn the TV off and forget about this horrible display. It’s like they don’t even know we’re in the playoffs yet (part of that credit goes to Nashville, a team that can slow down every single fucking game to “holy fuck I wanna get to bed cuz this shit is so boring” speed).

Better step this shit up next game. I haven’t seen a worse effort out of the Hawks in a loooooong ass time.

It’s sink or swim boys. Let’s see what you’re made of, you damn clowns.

by Ban on Apr 21, 2010 2:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Also

Eager was TERRIBLE. Why is he still on this team?

by Ban on Apr 21, 2010 2:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Losing is not 'malum in se'

Making your own fans think that F-ING Nashville has more guts, brains, heart, balls, etc…

That is ‘evil in itself’

Thanks to the Hawks for showing up as the team that played in early January in Minnesota.

I have in no way given up in this series, I just don’t know if I want to see the Hawks prevail and get raped again by the skum.

by Ghost of Bill Wirtz on Apr 21, 2010 2:20 AM CDT reply actions  

I read the re-cap 3 times

to try and find one word that I don’t agree with 100%…and I could not. Spot on summary and insight. I’d love to hear Rocky went to the team practice tomorrow and asked them if THIS is what he gets for his money and how many of them felt they earned their paycheck last night……coaches included. And Q? I’m sitting here thinking if he TRIED to fuck up this team during the playoffs what could he do that he hasn’t done already? Niemi seems to have SOME confidence left….maybe Q will start Crawford game 4 to address that? How about Buff in net….we haven’t tried him there to see if he fits in. aaarrrrgggghhhhhhh!!!!!!!

Nice thing is, by the due date for season ticket deposits we’ll know who we’ll be playing in round 2, right? And are we SURE we can’t raise ticket prices any more for 2011 as it seems fans might have some left over playoff budget to spend. ARRRRRRGGHHHHH!!!!!!!

by husler777 on Apr 21, 2010 2:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Nice job Sam

Toews hasn’t been around all series. He’s -3 with 1 assist. Today he was brutal, as you highlighted.

Are the Hawks ever going to crash the net?

"Your eyes can decieve you. Don't trust them." Obi-Wan Kenobi, the first sabermetrician...

by Curtain Jerker on Apr 21, 2010 3:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Hawks got their asses

KICKED!!!!!!!!

bad playoff performance,very bad…..i can’t believe it……imo this series is over,my heart says: CMON BLACKHAWKS!! but my brain says: GOLFING SEASON IS HERE!

I hope McDonough leaves this team,frickin dumbass…..i am so pissed off right now,followed this team the entire season….i’m in europe so i have to wake up like at 2 am to watch games,and then they do this…..in the words of JR….WAKE THE FUCK UP BLACKHAWKS!!!!!

by csm on Apr 21, 2010 4:32 AM CDT reply actions  

rec'd

for hilarity

September 26, 2007 The day a Franchise was reborn.

by Roos-34 on Apr 21, 2010 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've been in Holland on business since last Thursday...

…so thank you all for being my “eyes” for games 1-3.

I hope to fly back tomorrow and be home for Game 4…I am fortunate in that it looks like I’ll only be here one day more than expected…a big break relative to thousands of others.

Back on topic. The one thing that concerns me is that during the bad stretch in March and druing games 1 and 3, there’ve been frequent posts along the lines of “Well, the effort wasn’t there this game, but they’ll get past that and come out better next game.” I’ve tried to stay as positive as I can be and not be an internet ranter and raver, but I do have to be concerned with the motivation issues with this team, if that is actually what the problem is. The dog days of March are kind of understanable, but everything I’ve read indicates that of the 9 periods played so far, the Hawks haven’t shown up for…4 of them? And, uh, that’s not good enough in the playoffs.

Now, again, I haven’t seen anything outside of the occasional highlight on Youtube, so my interpretations may be wrong. I’m just going by what I’m seeing here and in the mainstream media.

But these guys are professional hockey players. Coach Q should not need to “motivate” them at this point. That giant trophy with all the names on it should be all the motivation they need. And again, I start to worry about the psychological makeup of this team a little bit considering the amount of times we’ve said “Don’t worry about it, it’s only one game.”

by GenPabloSecobar on Apr 21, 2010 4:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Not to mention this is still a young team.

Do you really have to motivate a bunch of 20 somethings when its only the second year in the playoffs?

Picture bloodbaths and elevator shafts
Like these murderous rhymes tight from genuine craft

by chrome on Apr 21, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I couldn't have said it any better. And I'll summarize your bullet points even more:

1. Nashville wanted it more and worked harder. Period.

larry. A kind word for everyone.

by ballyb on Apr 21, 2010 5:41 AM CDT reply actions  

another pukefest

..The Hawks are playing like this" is another throwaway game against Rochester"…..the way We finished the season..I am not one bit surprised by these results…get Big Buff off that fuck*n blueline and back in front of the net….next game watch how Jonny T starts and that will tell you if things have changed…

by barclay donaldson on Apr 21, 2010 6:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Don't know where to start

I Can only say WHAT THE FUCK Q!!! You won Game 2 by a score of 2-0 and you fuck with the lines from the get go last night? Was 2-0 not good enough? Then you continue to fuck with the lines all night?

That being said the players on the ice were thoroughly outworked all night. Show some fucking pride!

September 26, 2007 The day a Franchise was reborn.

by Roos-34 on Apr 21, 2010 7:09 AM CDT reply actions  

in addition to calling out toews...

Hossa and sharp have mostly been non-factors

Honestly, right now you’d have to say you’d rather have kopecky out there instead of hossa. Good for hossa, he can take a hard wrister from 30 feet that is easily saved. He’ll finish with 3-5 shots to look like he was dangerous but really, is that all he can do? What happened to the awesome back-checking and puck control.

And i’m sorry but duncan keith has largely been ineffective in the two playoffs he’s played in so far. I expect a norris candidate to be very noticeable on the ice. In 20 playoff games we’ve seen him, i take brian campbell over him every time.

by SLoop on Apr 21, 2010 7:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Hossa

Not a good game last night, but the whole team played like shit. He was a monster in the first two games of this series. We’ll need him to get on the scoresheet sooner or later, but to say he’s been ineffective is wrong.

I’m with you on Keith, however. After watching a few of the Kings/Nucks games, there’s no doubt in my mind that Drew Doughty is the best D-man in the league.

by HungryHungryPanda on Apr 21, 2010 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dr. Ice from the Game 2 recap

“There will be people that look at the scoresheets from the first two games and see that Marian Hossa does not have a point. Those people will draw conclusions.

Those people will be very, very wrong in their conclusions."

Couldn’t have said it better myself. Look, NOBODY had a good game last night, but if you think Hossa has been mostly a non-factor you’re crazy.

by HungryHungryPanda on Apr 21, 2010 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's BS

You can only give out so many brownie points until you have to put real points up on the board.

by SLoop on Apr 21, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

If Hossa continues his great play - eventually it sill show on the score sheet

but this is a team sport and there is opposition, and making a good play doesn’t always lead to a goal or assist (but over time it will)

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Apr 21, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

He strikes me as more the consistency-type player

You can’t count on him to come through in a clutch way in tough situations (I hope he proves me wrong though) but he gives it night-in night-out, and when he’s denied it eventually evens out. I hope this “eventually” happens soon… like Thursday.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

perhaps he doesn't appear to "elevate" his game because he is always full effort

I do certainly hope to soon see Hossa (and Sharp) get some breaks going their way so as to show on the scoresheet

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Apr 21, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can just see the headline now...

Hawks players have awesome corsi ratings, dominate in offensive zone, lose the series in 5 games.

by SLoop on Apr 21, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

We didn't last night though

You can laugh it off if we dominate and lose. But another game like last night’s and there will be dead bodies in Chicago.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was just responding to the notion that hossa can somehow consistently play well without scoring goals.

Missing the stat sheet is for guys like eager, ladd, boland, fraz. Guys like sharp, hossa, toews, kane need to score. Good games for those guys = scoring goals.

by SLoop on Apr 21, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Time is past for those guys to have moral victories.

by husler777 on Apr 21, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

But the bottom line is...

…nada.

Never thought I’d be saying this, but remember JHC?

by cliffkoroll on Apr 21, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's why I said "Never thought I'd say this"

Hossa is amazing, but at some point, the mail must be delivered. Fuckin’ JHC was money in the playoffs.

by cliffkoroll on Apr 21, 2010 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

JHC had his quiet games in the playoffs

I don’t understand how Toews and Sharp’s inability to bury a chance should reflect poorly on Hossa. I know that’s not what you said, but if Sharp doesn’t hit the post in game 1 and Toews doesn’t hit the crossbar in game 2, then Hossa has three solid assists.

Would I like to see him light the lamp, sure, but the guys he is skating with aren’t putting forth the same effort that he is.

The only forwards that have shown up for this series are Hossa and Kane.

Ditto for CNS

by Hack on Apr 21, 2010 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with all of this

This team is loaded- someone’s gotta take the bull by the horns. JHC rose to some big occasions last year.

Of course, comparing Hossa to JHC is silly but, as well as Hossa has played, he’s been stoned a few times himself. Two more great games and no stat sheet would be a disappointment.

I can’t help but wonder what the inside of Toews head will be like during the next 30 hours.

by cliffkoroll on Apr 21, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Even just comparing hossa to hossa

We know he is capable of playing better and we know he is capable of putting points on the board. There’s got to be some reason why he’s not doing it.

by SLoop on Apr 21, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't understand why you're so hung up on Hossa

As I mention, guys need to bury the chances he’s giving them.

There are 10 forwards that you could easily blame for the lack of production. I exclude Hossa and Kane.

You’re obviously pissed that Toews got called out, but Hossa has had a better series than Toews despite the fact that they each have 1 point.

Ditto for CNS

by Hack on Apr 21, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm hung up on sharp, hossa, and toews.

We shouldn’t have to be finding moral victories for these guys. Their job is to score goals and they’re not doing it.

by SLoop on Apr 21, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hossa and Toews do a lot more than score goals

But Sharpie has been in a bit of a slump and Kaner got shut down last night.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

So whose job is it to score goals?

Just sharp and kane?

Scoring goals is a large part of toew’s and hossa’s job description. Yes, they do other things but we have defensemen and a goalie to stop goals from being scored and forwards to put the puck in the net. Specifically, the top two lines.

by SLoop on Apr 21, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I still think it starts from the back

Niemi did fine, but our defense needs to get back to November-December-level D. If we can’t get out of our zone more, our forwards are going to be pressing to score, and that never works out too well.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

He was the best until last night

That’s why the Preds focused on shutting him down. They did quite a good job in doing so, but nobody else was able to step up in his place.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Keith

Really? I thought he was easily our best defenseman last night. Laid out hits he normally wouldn’t, bailed us out a couple of times.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

My assessment of Keith in this series is that he’s been our best D-man (which is what everyone expects). However, I’ve been watching the LA/Van series and have become jaded by watching Doughty just take the fuck over in that series.

Probably a bit unfair to judge Keith so harshly, but it comes with the territory of being a Norris-caliber D-man.

by HungryHungryPanda on Apr 21, 2010 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Doughty's playing ridiculous

I wonder if one D man can take over for this team though. When the forwards, and your fellow blueliners are playing badly, there’s only so much you can do.

I forget which game it was, but there was one rush where Duncs pinched way in and had so much space he practically could’ve walked in on Rinne unmolested… I doubt he’s got the finishing ability but maybe he could’ve tried it just to change things up?

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

sure duncs coud prob play a bit better

but honestly, he was the only one who made watching yesterday palatable. And for that, i’ll give him a pass, they rest need to shape up first.

by puppetmasterp on Apr 21, 2010 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

The only thing Doughty has on Keith....

…is that he’s fucking 20 years old! I thought they were pretty comparable (maybe a tiny edge to Dunc) in the Olympics.

by cliffkoroll on Apr 21, 2010 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is true of Keith almost every game, IMO

What was funny last night is after Keith decked DuMont(?), he tried a couple other big hits, but bounced off the guys.

Hell, I even saw Ladd deliver a hit and end up on his ass.

by cliffkoroll on Apr 21, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, happened to Steeger too, but that was expected

Maybe the guys saw how well the physicality worked in Game 2, didn’t figure out how the Preds would change their game plan, and subsequently went off of theirs.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

"he tried a couple other big hits, but bounced off the guys"

Is it me or does our team somehow look small in this series? As in, we’re getting bounced around quite a bit. Bolland and Fraser get knocked to the ice with regularity and other than Hossa (game 1) and Keith (last night) I haven’t seen too many times where we’ve flattened guys.

Just asking. (Not meant to be another gripe about what’s wrong with our team.)

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by Preacher000 on Apr 21, 2010 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

When people were saying it was men vs boys or whatever, I thought that was accurate, visually. Getting owned on the boards and all.

The sad thing is, if I remember correctly, they’re not any bigger than we are. So I’m just confused. It’d break my heart if our guys really were lacking in the effort department.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

effort, desire

we can throw out all those cliches we want. What I’m seeing is a team that doesn’t have a commitment to playing winning hockey. They seem like they want to be flashy and be on all the highlights.

Basically they are an immature team

Thursdays game is basically the season. Do they come out and take the game or do they wait for the win they think they deserve again?

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by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't see flashy last night

I saw a team out of their game. They couldn’t even try to be flashy.

Agreed on the immaturity though. I really wish we didn’t carry the expectations we do, logically, I never saw why. Emotionally, yes, but logically, no.

I fully expect to see a Game 7 type performance on Thursday. We have had nothing going, we stole Game 2, and we are undeniably the underdogs now. They better play like they’re angry.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

wasn't speciffically refering to last night

about the flashy thing, more of a season long observation. What I saw last night was a team that wanted the game (them) and went out on the ice and took it.

Please, please, please don’t let them play angry. We all saw what that looks like in Game 5 last year. I want to see them play like they care, give a fuck, refuse to leave the ice without the win

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by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah sorry

I meant “angry” more in a “We’re the Blackhawks and you’re not” kind of way. Which might not guarantee anything, but I want some authority shown. The Preds are playing well, but anybody who thinks the ’Hawks are actually this bad is delusional.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

That doesn't say much for our defense

They’ve been flat out awful. You better be able to score like the capitals if you’re going to fuck around in your own zone as much as these guys do.

by SLoop on Apr 21, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't disagree

I missed most of the 1st (broken water pipe in kitchen), and was so fed up by the end of the 2nd that I stopped watching and went to bed.

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Apr 21, 2010 7:30 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

To be honest, the reason fans and media are surprised is because of the way Nashville was blown off before the series. This is a 100 point hockey team, and if they had been treated as such there wouldn’t be much ado over these results. As it stands, the Hawks are only down one game, and with that offense its easily overcomeable (provided Quenneville can outduel Trotz, which would be impressive).

Anyway, last night was an even better effort than G1. This is kind of what I was talking about when I noted we had more to bring on offense. The Preds are a hard team to beat when they play like that.

It was mentioned by Q in his presser, but the Hawks are getting no one in front of Rinne at all. He’s too good to let that happen. Fix that, and figure out a way out of your own zone and this series is tied on Thursday.

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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 7:33 AM CDT reply actions  

Your first sentence...

…says more about your perception of the world and your sensitivities than reality itself. You can seek out and find idiots to point to in defense of this hobby horse, but it strikes me as inappropriate whiny bullshit that is unworthy of how your team is playing.

by cliffkoroll on Apr 21, 2010 7:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Whatever. You should know by now I’m not here to pick a fight. All I’m saying is the frustration is a product of not fully knowing what you were up against. Its not necessarily your fault, either: your media did it and not playing us since 2009 did it.

Sorry for the ‘whining’.

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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

rec'd

Couldn’t have said it better myself. The Preds played extremely well and the ’Hawks played well under their capabilities, no matter how you cut it.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

That

and the Hawks lost game 1. The preds in my opinion didn’t win it. Down one, hopefully that ass kicking last night changes shit/outlooks

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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Whatever indeed

You use the word “you” three times. Speaking for myself, I am not frustrated, I did not underestimate Nashville, and I don’t give a rat’s ass abut media coverage of hockey (that’s why places like this exist.)

Frustration, to the extent it is our there, might be linked to Rinne’s .95 (or whatever) sv% and 1.33 GAA. Don’t tell me in your most fevered imaginings this was what you expected the Hawks to be “up against” in the first three games.

Your (ok, I’m specificaly talking about YOU) snivelling gloat/whine is aimed at idiots here. And you may have noticed we have everyday commenters bending over backward to chastise the idiots. You’re the face of OtF- get that shit outta here.

by cliffkoroll on Apr 21, 2010 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

You use the word "you" three times. Speaking for myself, I am not frustrated, I did not underestimate Nashville, and I don’t give a rat’s ass abut media coverage of hockey

The term ‘you’ wasn’t directed at you specifically, but in general, which was of course a stupid way to word things. My apologies.

Your (ok, I’m specificaly talking about YOU) snivelling gloat/whine is aimed at idiots here. And you may have noticed we have everyday commenters bending over backward to chastise the idiots. You’re the face of OtF- get that shit outta here.

Can you detail what you’re referring to as far as ‘snivelling gloat/whine’?

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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Figuratively

Repeatedly making the point that you guys are underappreciated by media/fans. I think you’ve mentioned that enough times. We get it. Please don’t bring it up again.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

First comment first sentence
To be honest, the reason fans and media are surprised is because of the way Nashville was blown off before the series.

Maybe it’s just me, but this sounds like:

“Nobody gave us a chance”
“We’re underappreciated. Wah.”
“That’ll teach you to doubt us.”
“We really showed ‘em, didn’t we pa?”

by cliffkoroll on Apr 21, 2010 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough. All I was trying to say, which didn’t come across well, is that the public will be more upset with subpar results the higher the expectations. For example, Avalanche fans are probably not upset their series is tied 2-2 at all, because they were supposed to lose quickly. Sorry for the confusion.

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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'll agree with that

I was always afraid of the expectations that people put on the ‘Hawks. I “believed” they would win but I didn’t “think” they would win that-which-must-be-named. If for no other reason than the fact that nobody really has more than, say, a 30% chance. But people were talking as if it were already won or something, and giving them way more credit than they deserved.

If the players let that get to their heads, shame on them.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm a bit edgy this morning...

…not frustrated, OK, just edgy, see, as I’m sure you can appreciate. Sorry if I overreacted.

I come hear to get away from the “public”.

by cliffkoroll on Apr 21, 2010 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not a problem. I’d be edgy too.

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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think most of the "mass media"

picked Hawks in 6 and many said 7, so I don’t think the Preds were THAT underestimated.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know what THEY are talking about Chris.

I don’t think you sound whiny at all, and you certainly weren’t gloating in your post. Sorry you had to come in here to the den of very angry people.

I think you’re right that no one gave the Preds a chance, but our record against them (4-2?), our statistical lead in most categories, and the way we’ve seen our boys play totally dominant hockey in the past led us to believe we should beat a #7 seed that supposedly doesn’t have any “super” stars.

Our problem here is much more with how the Hawks have played this first round. I don’t think you’re whining at all. WE on other hand….

I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.

by Preacher000 on Apr 21, 2010 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think we deserve to whine

Given how our team played last night. The is a ‘Hawks blog — of course we’re going to go all homeristic and downplay how well the Preds played, which was top-notch. But that’s out of Chicago’s control — what is, is the ’Hawks stepping it up.

Of course, this being a blog, it’s not like any of our opinions actually mean anything. But it makes us feel better, so at least let us have that.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Whine, no. Bitch and moan, definitely.

And I do believe we’re doing that very well.

I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.

by Preacher000 on Apr 21, 2010 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Myself included.

I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.

by Preacher000 on Apr 21, 2010 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's what this blog is for, isn't it?

Get our feelings out here so we don’t take it out on our “real” friends. Haha.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Now you're just showing off....:)

I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.

by Preacher000 on Apr 21, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's it! I'm leaving!

I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.

by Preacher000 on Apr 21, 2010 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wait a minute..

“Moi”? That’s french… he must like Huet..

GET HIM!!!

by Killion on Apr 21, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oy vey!

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Apr 21, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Eric Nystrom?

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

btw, he's Jewish

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't conflate...
we should beat a #7 seed that supposedly doesn’t have any "super" stars.

with

no one gave the Preds a chance

by cliffkoroll on Apr 21, 2010 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Conflate?

Wow. I am impressed with such vocabulary at this early hour of the day.

I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.

by Preacher000 on Apr 21, 2010 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is just the icing on the cake for me

I have had a nightmare, undescribale last 3 days (including one of my parents having two near death experiences in the time frame) They looked like garbage yesterday plain and simple.

by 815Sox on Apr 21, 2010 7:34 AM CDT reply actions  

most importantly though

it looks like my parents are fine, its a miracle they survived though

by 815Sox on Apr 21, 2010 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Golfing season arrived 2 months ago.

I dont know why. How do you explain a team that plays the first 50 games one way, and then is a totally different team the last 30. Cmon, is anyone really surprised by this considering the way the Hawks ended the season? The last 5-8 games they looked better but never like they did to start.
So now why? There’s a few possible reasons I can think of.
1) Something happened in the locker room and the team is divided. Maybe they dont like Q or one another, but this team is different than it was during last playoff run and the first 2/3 of this year. It feels like a different team no?
2) They’re simply not tough enough. Call me a meathead if you like. ( I hate Kyle Orton)
But the fact is theyre not hitting and theyre constantly outworked. That speaks to toughness.

The only sin is stupidity

by nofolds on Apr 21, 2010 7:34 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Partly this is due

to Campbell being injured. We rely on him a lot for getting us out of our zone and for PP responsibilities. We’re modeled after the Wings, and you saw how well they did a lot of the time with all their regulars injured. Once they got everyone back, that’s when they started steamrolling people again. If Campbell can come back this series, and we’re still in it then, we can prevail.

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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

just when we thought......

goaltending was going to be the Hawks big problem, it’s pretty much been everything else. Except for the soft first goal in game one, Niemi has been serviceable.

You’d think with the 10, or so, chances Rinne gave them by repeatedly turning it over to forwards within 3 feet of the net, we could have managed to score on at least ONE! I was fed up before the end of the second. I’m not going to sacrifice valuable sleep to watch that abortion of defense. It was embarrassing.

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by G8K33P3R on Apr 21, 2010 7:40 AM CDT reply actions  

how 'bout it

They have to convert those mistakes and take Nashville out right away…….that would have put them in a big hole to start the game.

by Hitemwithurpurse on Apr 21, 2010 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's not even

just the mistakes either. When we shoot lately, we seem to be keeping the shots low on the ice. How about getting it up some of the time?

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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

that’s what she said

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by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

REC'D

-Matt Cooke is a turd burglar. He burgles ALL the turds.-

-At least he's not Cam Janssen. What a bag of dicks that guy is.-

by G8K33P3R on Apr 21, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wait, now I'm confused

I thought somebody was complaining we shot high too much instead of shooting low and looking for the rebound. Which one is it?

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

For me,

it’s always shooting low into the pads.

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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

with a 6'5" butterfly goalie

when you’re battling around in close, the shots have to go high

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Apr 21, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not only that,

but he’s not giving up a lot of rebounds off the pads either, and the Preds are doing a good job of clogging up the passing/shooting lanes. Throw some at his ears this next game.

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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Have we battled around in close yet this series?

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by ChicoMaki on Apr 21, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

bingo

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

situation is they lost last night. So we bitch about everything. Doesn’t matter if it make sense

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by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think...

…we’re shooting too much in the middle.

by cliffkoroll on Apr 21, 2010 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Shoot low from the point

high for in close, quality chances

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

We could always just get in close

and shoot Rinne with a .9MM. After that shot, I’m sure everything else would go in.

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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

We'd miss him or he'd catch it in his teeth

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-At least he's not Cam Janssen. What a bag of dicks that guy is.-

by G8K33P3R on Apr 21, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well, shit

this is why we need a Russian then. He could smuggle in a cheap AK and we could pray and spray Rinne into submission.

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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

We'll have someone

carry a couple of white phosphorous grenades also, to incinerate the corpse after he’s down

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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, good for weapons

and getting extreme DUI’s in Phoenix. ZING!

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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Trib has this photo up..

Another Beauty to the collection

September 26, 2007 The day a Franchise was reborn.

by Roos-34 on Apr 21, 2010 7:49 AM CDT reply actions  

i dont like it

Weber owned Toews all night. one shift in their zone he got spun around onto his ass multiple times. looked tired and slow. this picture pretty much encapsulates his play last night. and i dont like it!

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by west_fulton on Apr 21, 2010 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Weber is one of the premier defensemen in the league; it’s not just Toews he shuts down, it’s everyone.

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by ChicoMaki on Apr 21, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

sigh

He’s been an adventure alright… but whoever the heck is back there, this is a team that ought to be defense-first. It’s what got us this far. I don’t think we ever had the kind of explosive capability, like, say, the Caps — it always started in the back end.

I’m honestly afraid of what would happen if we brought Soupy back prematurely, and given the way everybody else is playing I’m hard-pressed to believe it’d make a difference. But I think, given last year’s playoff performance, and what he’s meant to us this year, he’s shown that he deserves every penny of that massive paycheck.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it'd be cool for Soupy to come back Saturday...

…provided he’s healthy. The crowd woudl go nuts- delicious irony.

by cliffkoroll on Apr 21, 2010 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather take Boyton on D

And have Buff go back to forward. We NEED somebody screening Rinne and nobody else seems to want to step up.

by Ban on Apr 21, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hate to say it, but...

They dumped Quenneville for the inability of his teams to win in the playoffs. It happened in St. Louis for years and then in Colorado. I tell you that’s some bad mojo.

And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.

by Ace Venom on Apr 21, 2010 7:55 AM CDT reply actions  

We've dropped 4 goals in this series

while the Preds are 1 away from a dime. High powered offense? Only when the other team LETS us…huh?

This is PLAYOFF HOCKEY, apparently only the Preds got the memo at this point.

Goalie is now a non-issue but EVERYTHING ELSE is.

If Coach Q-tip were let go, I would not lose 1 second of sleep over it.

Remember when CHEMISTRY was synonymous with Blackhawk Hockey? Those were good times, weren’t they?

by radguy213 on Apr 21, 2010 8:02 AM CDT reply actions  

soooo right

and guys would talk on the bench about what they saw on the previous shift. But now, they have to see if they’re even playing the next shift together…..It looked like it took the whole team 10 minutes of the third period to even figure out who they were skating with on the “new” lines.
QUIT changing the guys around !!!!!

by Hitemwithurpurse on Apr 21, 2010 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

WCF

remember that last year? The whole team lost their minds and Q was part of it. This does look like a team that believes they’re entitled.

If they’re not getting good leadership from the locker room or the coaching staff I have just one question….

WTF is the Great Bowman?!?!?

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by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

a win will....

make me REALLY forget about last night………

by Hitemwithurpurse on Apr 21, 2010 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not for me

I was unsatisfied after Game 2, because of Game 1 and because it wasn’t that great a win in my mind. I’m not going to forget about last night until we win the series.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's doing interviews

about Detroit. I find it funny that Scotty’s on our payroll, yet he talks to the media more about what the Wings are doing that anything concerning us. What exactly do we pay him for?

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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

In the words of Joe McGrath

“you guys are playing like a bunch of pussies.”

When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 8:08 AM CDT reply actions  

"I got a good deal on those boys....."

“Reg, I want you to go down to the bus station and pick ’em up………”

by Hitemwithurpurse on Apr 21, 2010 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

…they come here TONIGHT…to scout the CHIEFS… the toughest team in the Federal League…

Victim was found murdered by a Chelsea Dagger.

by pucknut on Apr 21, 2010 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

McGrath: Good crowd out there tonight, boys, let’s really try to win this one.
Ned Braden: You have to hand it to the old bastard, he’s highly original.
Jim Ahern: That man traveled 15 hours by bus to say that?

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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is anyone else noticing

that Rinne is trying to over compensate for his huge size by dropping down too early to get to the lower shots? And quit shooting glove side, obviously. Maybe it is just stupid me.

When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 8:23 AM CDT reply actions  

No, its not. Rinne’s a lot better on the glove side than the blocker side. Shoot high left shoulder.

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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Eddie O pointed it out last night

He telestrated the areas to shoot just as you described them.

by Hitemwithurpurse on Apr 21, 2010 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

No it's not just you...

Even in the broadcast last night Eddie O busted out the telestrator and picked the areas the Hawks need to be shooting at, and that area is high shoulders.

by XxMJ20xX on Apr 21, 2010 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

To paraphrase mjthor

Last night:
“THE SPORTS TEAM FROM THEIR AREA WAS SUPERIOR TO THE SPORTS TEAM FROM OUR AREA.”

"You don't wanna show me nothin'. But you're tellin' me everything."

by nextgame on Apr 21, 2010 8:27 AM CDT reply actions  

Sam made a good point

about Eager, yeah that fourth line was hot to end the season but now? Put Burish back in there or once/if Soupy gets back stick Buff’s ass somewhere on there.

And the Brouwer situation as he also pointed out, isn’t helping. I am way happy that Niemi is playing damn well thus far but I also feel as if Q mind fucked Huet into what he has become. Please don’t do the same to a valuable player like Brouwer.

When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 8:34 AM CDT reply actions  

I actually thought the 4th line did okay last night

They some of the few players looked like they cared (and I don’t think that they were, just that they looked that way), and they actually ended up even +/-. I think I saw them generate some pressure in the offensive zone in the 2nd period, which wasn’t happening with any of the other lines.

But I did see Eager take a boneheaded penalty, replacing him with Burish is probably more effective than moving Kop up with Kaner and Sharpie.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

It took two periods....

to notice Brouwer. I am I alone here? When I finally saw him I said, “wait a minute, has even been out on the ice for the first period + ?” Was he sat for a reason?

by Hitemwithurpurse on Apr 21, 2010 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's all fuzzy in my brain now

Which line was he playing on? I don’t think he’s ever played that well on any line but the top line. Or the 2nd, at times.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

right!!!

Q seemed to get really desperate early on….but they were only down two. Keep the guys that have scored together on their lines so that they can communicate!!!!

by Hitemwithurpurse on Apr 21, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

That...

…I just didn’t understand. If we were down four, fine — go try and catch lightning in a bottle. But two?

I think it was as much frustration at the Preds’ game plan and not knowing how to counter it — but that just means we were getting totally outcoached. I’ve seen the ‘Hawks beat teams that trapped and teams that forecheck aggressively before. Sure, it’s the playoffs, but if they know how to channel the energy there’s no reason why they couldn’t figure this out.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

bumped his ass

down to the 3rd line. Which honestly is our weakest line lately.

When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Brouwer

Has been largely invisible the entire series, except of course for the terrible turnover that led to the GWG in Game 1. Not sure if the time off hurt him, or if his mind is elsewhere or what, but I’d like to see him reunited with Daydream Nation.

by HungryHungryPanda on Apr 21, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

asdfjkl;

I know he doesn’t, but I really wish coach Q read this blog.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Coach Q

Alright, I’ve seen a few posts hit on this but I’m gonna make this a new post instead of replying.

Anybody who has played, coached, or been around hockey long enough knows that teams take on the characteristics of their coach and we are seeing that right now. Now correct me if I’m wrong but last year in the playoffs Q did not play shuffle-palooza with the lines and the ’Hawks made some nice comebacks in games where they should have been down and out in the third. This is because there was no panic and the players believed they could comeback no matter what.

This year when they are down Q hits shuffle and everything is fucked up in a matter of seconds. The team panics when he does that. They get away from playing the same game for 60 minutes and look like horseshit! I understand the players are the ones playing but constantly being put with new guys on a line means you are constantly re-adjusting and trying to feel confortable. Just stick with lines for two games in a row and allow some chemistry.

Sam is right, Q’s job is not safe and I think we are seeing why St. Louis and Colorado did not win with him. I give it until next March before Scotty Bowman is behind the bench because Q can’t control himself.

  • On a side note we are seeing how important Cambell is to the ’Hawks!

by MoeWanchuk on Apr 21, 2010 8:34 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

the tone a coach sets for te team is indeed critical

I still can’t decide what is up with Q

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Apr 21, 2010 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

why wait till next march

fire his ass sunday if the series ends Saturday

The only sin is stupidity

by nofolds on Apr 21, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

The constant line shuffling was obnoxious in the regular season ...

now it’s downright embarrassing. At some point, you just have to live or die with what you have. There’s no magical combination that’s waiting to be unlocked here. We know what we have and it’s pretty good. Now lets just see if they can break through this Nashville muck and mire.

by Billy Charlesbois on Apr 21, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Breaking thru the muck and mire

I think the Hawks have to stop worrying about what Nashville is doing and get back to what they do best. Which is, I beleive, pressuring the opposing team in their defensive zone.

Watching the Capitals in their last couple games I had to admire the way they come at the opposing team, no holds barred, every shift. They just apply the pressure no matter what the opponent does and assume the “D” will eventually crack & crumble, which it usually does.

I know the Hawks also have the ability to play this type of game, we’ve all seen it. Plus they’re a better team defensively to boot.

I sure hope they can reacquire the cock sure attitude that enabled them to win 50+ games this season and remove the doubt that seems to have creeped into their play.

"You don't wanna show me nothin'. But you're tellin' me everything."

by nextgame on Apr 21, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly I think it starts in our zone

We can’t sustain pressure in theirs because we’re pinned in ours. I’ve already expressed my opinion on this but if you think about it, any shift where we spend most of it in ours makes it tough for that line, and the next.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

No one envisioned...

…playoff defense including Buff, Sopel, AND Hendry. I like all of these guys, but when that’s half your defense, a bit of keystone kops is not surprising.

by cliffkoroll on Apr 21, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point

This is probably why Nashville dialed up their forecheck, and why it’s working so well.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

you mean something along the lines of smart coaching??

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Durr

Seriously though, I would hate to be coach Q right now. I couldn’t think of a very good game plan for the ’Hawks for Game 4.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bring in Reggie Dunlop!

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m guess the bed shitting seriously accelerates his time table… That, and Buff’s defensive asshat plus the need for a big body in the crease.

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by bobby h on Apr 21, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is part of why Trotz is a better coach

he has the series being played on his terms – Q is reacting and changing things, instead of having his team (which is the higher talent team) playing its own game and making the other one react

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Apr 21, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Q is focusing on the wrong thing

He’s looking at the lack of offensive production and doing stuff to try to generate it. What’s really happening is a breakdown on D, clearing badly and playing a horrible transition game as a result. It’s impossible to generate offense from that.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

It seems like he is

but isn’t he always preaching a defense-first approach to the game? Would he really be getting away from that already after spending 2 years drilling it into the team’s brains? I’m wondering, not necessarily disagreeing with you.

by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Honestly if I were him

and I could do just on thing in practice, I’d work on getting the puck out of the zone against an aggressive forecheck… and maybe even ice the puck every once in a while.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

maybe that's the problem

They practice against themselves right? So they look good then but play the big bad Preds in the real game and things don’t work out so well.

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by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's exactly what I was trying to say!

Thanks for saying it better for me krome.

"You don't wanna show me nothin'. But you're tellin' me everything."

by nextgame on Apr 21, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

de nada

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Apr 21, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don’t see panic in the boys; I wish I saw some panic. And I don’t see laziness, although I do see very lazy decision-making.

Also, we didn’t have to switch up lines last year because every line was playing well.

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by ChicoMaki on Apr 21, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sam is right, Q’s job is not safe and I think we are seeing why St. Louis and Colorado did not win with him. I give it until next March before Scotty Bowman is behind the bench because Q can’t control himself.

If the ‘Hawks bow out early expect a sudden change at the helm for the start of next season. I can’t believe for one second that he’ll be here if they don’t move on. At season’s end the players usually meet with the front office and I’m sure there won’t be many vouching to have Q kept on. The knives will most certainly be out.

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by hawks61 on Apr 21, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

And it won’t be Scotty Bowman either to replace him. Don’t be suprised if the ’Hawks lean towards a Dan Byslma kind of coach in Mike Haviland. The PK has been amazing this year and his personality would be a welcome suprise in that dressing room.

I’m sure the yelling and screaming childish rants have drawn deaf ears by now. Kind of “Yah. Whatever. Fuck off.”

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by hawks61 on Apr 21, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's actually a bit reassuring

My worst fear, as far as coaching changes go, is that you get a worse one.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hard to imagine that with Haviland. Unless he decides to change lines during the anthem.

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by hawks61 on Apr 21, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

i just have 2 questions

if they make a change:

Will the PP inprove?
Does he have a ’stache?

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by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

answers

1) Depends on if he retains Torchetti, who coaches the PP.

2) Probably not

Ditto for CNS

by Hack on Apr 22, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Danny Bylsma is an all around fabulous human being

The Hawks would be well served by someone like him

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Apr 22, 2010 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Q said the Preds were more resilient

Ok, if thats what he wants to call it. Bottom line is the Preds were the better team last night. That does not mean they will be the better team Thursday night. It seems as if alot of the Hawk players did not know their role last night (Versteeg as pest? Isnt that Burish’s job? or Eager or Fraser. Does Sharp really need to be the guy that looks pissed off and had enough at the end of the game. I know someone has to do it… but Sharpie? I completely agree with Sams statements on Buff, Brouw and Johnny T.

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by pucknut on Apr 21, 2010 8:38 AM CDT reply actions  

Only thing I'd say about Sharpie

Is I wish I’d seen that fire on the ice. I’ve seen it from him, and not that long ago either. But for what went down, I’m glad to see that emotion from him. The whole team could’ve used some.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

One thing I'd say about Sharpie

…game 2, Vancouver, Hawks trailing the series 1-0- Sharpie put the team on his fuckin’ back!

This is just one of dozens of appealing scenarios, many involving puppies and rainbows, for Thursday night.

by cliffkoroll on Apr 21, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

what? no unicorns?

do you have something against unicorns?

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Apr 21, 2010 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

gotta wait

when we’re down 3-1 in the series, then it’s unicorn time.

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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I see

they can impale us to put us out of our misery

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Apr 21, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, that,

cause there is nothing more majestic than a beautiful unicorn running around the countryside with fresh blood dripping from it’s wondrous horn.

I was also just referring to the rarity of unicorns themselves. It’s not like they grow on trees or anything. Have to use them wisely.

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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

so, based upon rarity

you aren’t even getting to considering trying to sacrifice a virgin?

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Apr 21, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nah,

because you can’t really tell who’s a virgin-virgin anymore, with all those wacky kids re-swearing their virginity. I’d hate to get to the sacrificial altar and find out I’d brought a second-ran virgin instead of a pure, fresh one.

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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

they say that's why the Druids died out

but really, you were thinking of just taking their word for it?

no woner the gods are always angry these days, gullibility is pandemic.

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Apr 21, 2010 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

The gods are also angry

because of the shitty 3D job on Clash of the Titans.

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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought it was

the crappy dialouge.

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by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

the longest

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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why do I get the feeling

that it’ll take this to see us play like men possessed? I still see us winning Game 4 but it’s going to be an ugggggly win.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

remember

winning ugly is still winning

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Apr 21, 2010 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

We seem to have the marked cornered on that this year.

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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, this is true,

much like getting cock-blocked from a fat girl at the bar during closing time.

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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Resilient?

Seriously? They were far from resilient. They were given turnover after turnover because the ‘Hawks decided to not take part in anything physical whatsoever (except Versteeg’s elbow).
The ’Hawks play was lethargic and unacceptable, not resiliency in the Predators part. They {the Preds} have a gameplan, stuck to it, and eventually won the game.
Hard work paid off just like it has for most of the season for Nashville.

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by hawks61 on Apr 21, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

so SJ and DET won last night

so i guess that means VAN and CHI even up their respective series’ in game 4??

by sec. 317 on Apr 21, 2010 8:50 AM CDT reply actions  

100%

agree with what Sam said in the recap. Was gonna come on here this morning and let all my frustration go, but he beat me to the punch. I’ve been saying the shit about the lines since the regular season. When you shuffle the shit outta them, there’s no cohesion and no familiarity with who’s playing with you. You can see it when Q shuffles them, then either there’s three guys going for the puck, or we hit each other trying to go into the offensive zone.

Don’t get me started on the stupid penalties in the first either. Especially Versteeg’s penalty for leaving his feet on the hit. Country-dumb is right.

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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 8:54 AM CDT reply actions  

He didn't leave his feet

That’s what they originally thought but they replayed the hit and it turned out to be an elbow to the head.

by Ban on Apr 21, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Where was that physical

play from periods one and two of game 1 and all of game 2? They were backchecking/winning pucks off the boards. Then game 3 they abandoned everything they had done right last game. That or Trotz and his team adjust and Q couldn’t acclimatize the team. Which if that is the case no wonder he hasn’t gotten into the Stanley Cup finals.

That was a painful game.

When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 8:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Well said

I saw Ladd as a Brouwer replacement… and we all know Ladd isn’t having as good a year this year. The regular season is when you punish a player for a Game 1-type mistake. Not now. Stick to your guns. Not that it means anything to Q.

I may be taking Hjammer for granted at this point. His defense-first mentality and ridiculous amount of effort and ability in executing it has earned him much love from me. That said, our transition game has been awful for a while now, and while missing Soupy has something to do with it and it’s not Hjammer’s game, somebody besides Keith has to step up in that department.

Agreed on the fourth line. I thought they did fine and brought some energy, even if it didn’t transfer. But if we’re counting on them for production… you know the drill.

I think the thing about Versteeg was that he actually looked like he was playing hard, until the boneheadedness returned. Again, “looking like playing hard” and “playing hard” are not one and the same, but that’s what it seemed like.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I woulda rec'd this

…but for yoour mistaken comments on Dunc.

Everything else is spot on.

by cliffkoroll on Apr 21, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Did you really think Dunc was that solid last night?

He was on the ice for 2 odd man rushes. 1 Niemi was able to snuff out, but Legwand scored on the other. You can blame Seabs or Steeg for Legwand’s goal, but I definitely thought Dunc was partially responsible on the first breakaway.

I thought Dunc was as guilty as anyone when it came to crossing his own blueline and floating with the puck and/or trying to make a long entry pass from his own zone. I just didn’t think he had his legs and I didn’t think that he was his usual self in transition.

I’m not blaming everything on Dunc, I just didn’t think he had the game that others thought he did.

Ditto for CNS

by Hack on Apr 21, 2010 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

He was our best D man

but he didn’t play like Norris-caliber Duncs. He played with emotion, but when a mediocre Keith is your best D man, you’ve got problems.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

He played solid D.

He is not having much impact offensively yet, and that is the problem.

But nobody is having much impact offensively, so is it Keith’s fault? How much does he have to do?

Even Bobby Orr had some help right?

Chewing gum?

by laaarmer on Apr 21, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think I mentioned this earlier

You said it better, but he really isn’t getting the help. Unless we think he should be taking the puck in and shooting himself, which he had a couple of chances to do, I’m not sure how much more he can do, effort-wise. He might’ve had a so-so game by his (very high) standards but a lot of the other guys were worse.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

He was the prettiest girl

in an ugly contest.

teaching respect for the Indian, one Red Wing fan at a time.

by 334Rules on Apr 21, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agree very much

Along the lines of versteeg’s shooting, i’ve kind of suspected for awhile that we are good a creating shots but actually a mediocre to poor shooting team. I’ve never seen a team that can be so prolific at controlling the puck in the o-zone (not last night) yet, at times, so incompetent at putting the puck in the net.

We’re like a baseball team that gets tons of guys on base, yet can’t score.

by SLoop on Apr 21, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Spot on

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

A stat to ponder

Chicago was the 3rd best goal scoring team in the league this season:

        TEAM………………GOALS SCORED
1) Washington………………..313
2) Vancouver…………………..268
3) Chicago……………………..262

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by nextgame on Apr 21, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

defense wins

championships?

When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

but we're playing good defense

we only gave up 4 last night to an offensive juggernaut

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great coverage

like Peanut Tillman right?

When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

but that's because of the number of shots we generated.

We’re 8th in shooting percentage with 9.68%. Washington leads with 11.80% followed by Vancouver with 10.73%

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by chiblackhawks on Apr 21, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lines

I generally subscribe to the ‘ride what got you there’ theory, but since Q’s most likely juggling anyway, why not throw my hat in the ring? With the lack of consistent offense generated from any line last night, I’m starting to wonder if I’d put all my eggs in one basket for Game 4. I’d entertain the idea of icing Kane-Toews-Hossa on the top line, at least to start the game. You’d have your two forwards that are currently playing the best out there with your best down-low board guy/faceoff guy, who I can’t imagine will no-show again. Sure, someone ends up playing the off-wing, but Kane’s better than anyone else you can pair with Toews-Hossa right now. It seems to be the best shot they have at generating consistent puck possession and scoring chances.

That’d leave you with a Sharp-Bolland-Versteeg second line, which would be a dice roll for offensive production, but would seemingly do a solid defensive job. I guess from there you’d go LaddenBrouw third and Roulette fourth, and hope both lines could just out-effort and out-physical the Preds 51% of the time or more.

I guess my thought process here is that it’s said in situations like this that your top players have to be the difference makers, so why not try to give them the best chance?

by Hjammer of the Gods on Apr 21, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

The reason I'd like to put Hossa with Bolland and Sharp

is because Hossa is our best all around winger. Let him make Bolland better.

Ditto for CNS

by Hack on Apr 21, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's certainly one way of looking at it

But if I’m two games away from hitting the links, I don’t think I have time to hope one guy can make another better. In crunch time, I want my heaviest artillery on the forefront.

by Hjammer of the Gods on Apr 21, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

They are falling in to the Pred "Trap"

and I don’t mean Neutral zone trap. I mean they are baiting and the trapping our Blackhawks in to playing the style the Predators want. This is not what I signed up for, and I want my Hawk offense back.

HOWEVER, Give the Preds credit, they are playing ’"Their" game very well.

Our guys look confused again, like they did in March and now the mad scientist is going to starting to fuck around.

Ladd is a board worker, not a net guy. Brouwer is the net guy. Buff is the net guy. Let Toews, Ladd, and/or Hossa work the boards, but not all at the same time.

Our D needs to play their O game with more speed. If our forwards have to stop at the blue line because our D is so slow bring the puck up, then the dump and chase to beat the trap is not going to work. If the forwards are moving as they hit the blueline, that is when the dump and chase can be very effective, and the Hawks speed will probably overwhelm the Preds. If the dump is the way that Q thinks we can beat this trap, then do it right.

I could not agree more regarding Buff. Run 5 D for gods sake, but don’t out this guy out as a D ever again. I think he’s got 15 or less games as a Hawk left here so use him where he is best, in front of Rinne. Shit give him skate weights so he can’t move from that spot.

This is far from over, but it’s closer than it needs to be and one more game like last night and I’m going to be bored for a while.

Chewing gum?

by laaarmer on Apr 21, 2010 9:17 AM CDT reply actions  

Buff already

has skate weights. Can’t you tell by the way he moves on the ice? HAHAHA

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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Preds' game plan

is more low maintenance, I think. (Insert car / gun / person reference here)

The ‘Hawks have a puck possession game that’s difficult to adjust from, I think. The Preds were able to shift to a slightly more aggressive version of their game and pulled it off with great success, but the ‘Hawks have to change, structurally, to keep up. Unfortunately that’s much harder to do — it’s just playing harder or shading more offensively or defensively.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

If Keith stops looking for a Hail Mary Pass

and gets the puck to the center line and shoots it in while Ladd, Hossa Toews, Sharp, Kane, etc are moving with speed instead of standing still, they will beat this team. The stretch pass is not going to work against these guys at this point.

If not, then they will be lucky if they do.

I only use Keith because he is our best guy, but the same can be said of all of them, except Soopel, because he can only move so fast, and that is not really why he is out there.

Chewing gum?

by laaarmer on Apr 21, 2010 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Seems like our entries were really broken yesterday

It always looked like we had one guy in there, maybe one guy trying to crash the net, but we’d immediately lose possession of it by the time we had anybody else arrive…

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

This.

I agree, the time on attack was terrible. They either couldn’t hold the puck in or were one and done with shots.

When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Some points:

- Completely agree that Buff had is head almost completely up his ass. He not only played like a confused junior, you could his facial expressions matched the physical aspect.

- Agreed that the Preds worked their asses off. I don’t care how much talent a team has; if they get out-worked, out-hustled on every play, they lose. For all the potential complexity of hockey, at it’s core is a simple truth: the team that gets to the open pucks has a much higher likelihood of success. I’m still waiting for the Hawks to beat a Predator to a loose puck.

- If this is the boys’ ploy to save me a shitload of money on the balance of playoff tickets to which I’m committed, let me just say: “I’’ve already budgeted it, fellas. It’s a nice thought, but if it’s all the same to you I’m happy giving Rocky my money for all four rounds.”

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by 334Rules on Apr 21, 2010 9:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Eh,

I want them to win the Cup, but don’t want Rocky to get anymore money. He’s already bleeding us dry with the increases. Plus we’re losing our “privileges” now also.

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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not really. If you can't afford or don't want to pay the increases,

there’s a line of people behind you who are willing to do so.

They aren’t bleeding anyone dry, they’re responding to the market.

That’s life.

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by chrome on Apr 21, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Econ 101

"Price. A fair price. That’s not what you say it is, and it’s not what I say it is… It’s what the market will bear."

Leonard Smalls, Raising Arizona

by cliffkoroll on Apr 21, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

and didn't they cut the prices

after the Old Man passed to get people back? I think it’s reasonable for them to raise ticket prices. They’re still middle of the league in cost right?

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by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

What "privileges" are we losing, pray tell?

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by nextgame on Apr 21, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes,

Rocky is increasing the prices to fall in line with the rest of the league. But the ticket prices have more than doubled over these past two seasons. Three years ago, sitting where we sit was around $700 per seat for the year. Last year they went up to close to 1200, and next year is going to be 1600. The legacy discount was also eliminated for long-time ticket holders.

As far as season-ticket holder perks that aren’t there or have been changed, first, the discount at Hawkquarters (will never refer to it by the new, retarded name). It used to be 10% just for season ticket holders. Now, either you can join the fan club, or just have a Harris card, and you get that. The party used to be at the United Center, and have free parking and food and more access to players. Now it’s at Navy Pier, where you pay for parking and food. And there used to be a nice gift at the end of the season, such as part of the glass from the rink or a nice set of leather coasters. Now, nothing.

I am not going to complain that the prices shouldn’t have gone up, because for years we were the lowest. Now that the team is better, there is more demand, and you can charge more. My thing is the rapid increase, and the loss of the benefits we used to hold.

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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't know about you but I got

a very nicely framed picture of Savvy, Stosh, Espo & Hull from opening night. My impression was it went to all season-ticket holders.

That’s not “nothing.”

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by 334Rules on Apr 21, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

I personally

did not get one, so I cannot say.

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by deathmonkey on Apr 21, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I never noticed the change in "perks"

because I never really took advantage of them, but that’s just a personal choice.

As far as the ticket prices go, I do agree that they have gone up considerably (at least in terms of percentage increase for the the 300 level seats I sit in) from just a few years ago. Sure it would be great to have prices stay lower, but that’s not what the market demands right now. So it comes down to do I think the product on the ice is worth the increased price, assuming I’m in a financial position to be able to pay?
So far the answer for me has been yes, even if this playoff run goes south.

However, if last years playoff run turns out to be the “peak” for this team (which I doubt it was) there better not be another increase anywhere on the horizon, or i’ll be having serious doubts about renewing again after next year.

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by nextgame on Apr 21, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

That won't be the peak

Even if the capocalypse happens, we have a really young core — maturity can do some amazing things.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Golf sucks.

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by chrome on Apr 21, 2010 9:41 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

agreed, to quote the great philosopher Happy Gilmore

“Hey, if I saw myself in clothes like that, I’d have to kick my own ass. "

TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on Apr 21, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

This isn't the way I wanted us to be recognized

But Puck Daddy called us “One of the most prominent Blackhawks blogs” today.

They skated the whole game as if they were entitled to something

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 10:26 AM CDT reply actions  

ugh forgot to preview

called us that referencing this quote

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not to pile on, but Wysh did a much better job illustrating my point from earlier.

A lot of this criticism is hyperbolic, based on the preconception that the Blackhawks were a predestined Western Conference finalist and that the Predators were a pushover outside of Rinne.

THATS what I meant. :)

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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Chris Burton for certain"

If your guys keep playing like they are……………………..

They just won’t, I can’t believe it.

Chewing gum?

by laaarmer on Apr 21, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure what you mean there.

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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

You’re entitled to your opinion. I don’t think they can do it for seven games, but four is not out of the question, is it?

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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's the problem

I’d feel better about us losing to you guys if you won the cup, actually.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

If we lose to the Preds

I will easily throw all my support behind them, as they will have earned it.

by puppetmasterp on Apr 21, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

They are playing an awesome right now

It’s not an opinion, its right there in front of all of us to see.

Just because I refuse to believe something, doesn’t mean it not happening. Except this time.

Chewing gum?

by laaarmer on Apr 21, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know they’re playing awesome, I just don’t think we win this in five or six, probably not even in seven.

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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

SAY WHAT?!?!!!111

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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

That ‘TEH PREDZ GET NO RISPECT!’ ??

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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

TEY DONT TRAP!!!!!!1

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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Admiral Akbar sez...

NHL 10 for XBox 360 is like paying $60 for bipolar disorder...

by Poiju on Apr 21, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can we kill this photo for good?

Please.

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The triumphant achievement or death sentence for the Niemisis.

by hawks61 on Apr 21, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry.

It was irresistible.

NHL 10 for XBox 360 is like paying $60 for bipolar disorder...
Go Predators!!!

by Poiju on Apr 21, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I get it now

It’s payback for all our uses of the word TRAP.

Trap trap trap

Trap the trapping trappers

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely. Also, Niemi was pretty good last night except on Erat’s goal.

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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

at that point in the game

I rather take the PS rather than a 2 minute PP in hopes Niemi saves it and we can try and get a goal with the momentum of the PS save. Obviously it didn’t work that way

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by Roos-34 on Apr 21, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

How come

No one ever mentions Weber’s bomb? That guy has a nasty shot. Al McI like haha

When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just read chi's recap on Blackhawks DL

Said something about us generating 70% of our quality chances on the PK. Blackhawks PP indeed.

I’m thinking, we should just take a 60 minute PP next game. Not only will we generate more chances, Weber might take out a Pred or two with his own shot

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

well

he killed Hornqvist. so +1 for us, oh wait we gave up 4 goals…

When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Apr 21, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Third fastest in league history. He’s broken two feet and one leg on his own teammates with it, and now apparently something of Hornqvist’s.

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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

He broke a LEG? Holy crap.

by K_Dog on Apr 21, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Snapped a bone in Marty Erat’s leg last year with it. Broke Tootoo (sad, I know)’s foot earlier this season. He makes up for it with goals, though.

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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

so you're saying

he can hit the crap out of it but can’t aim it.
gotcha

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by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

23 and 16 goals says otherwise.

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by Chris Burton on Apr 21, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

you've been around here long enough

you should be able to pickup on the sarcasm by now

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by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

do you remember Dennis Hull?

a few hundred goals – but not even the organist was safe when he wound up.

Aim? Well, most shots went somewhere in front of him.

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Apr 21, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bobby Douglas

was the Dennis Hull of football, which might tell the young ’uns something if they knew anything about Bobby D.

So I guess my analogy is a fail before it even begins. Oh well.

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by 334Rules on Apr 21, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

The phrase

“with friends like these…” comes to mind.

I see a future career move for Sopel. Future Preds forward. He can hang out in front of the net and you don’t have to worry about injuring him.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Weber hit Legwand in the face with a shot last year?

That explains so much. That kinda ugly can’t be natural causes alone.

by HungryHungryPanda on Apr 21, 2010 2:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

that was SO bad

it made me laugh; first time today. Being as how I’m so crabby today, that’s saying something. So, I must rec this.

by K_Dog on Apr 21, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

ding ding ding

we have a winner

Someone laughed on SCH today

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I feel kinda guilty now

by K_Dog on Apr 21, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

If they show up and at least match the effort level of a team that now surely believes it can take this, they have a good chance of getting out of this series alive.

For me, this is the biggest problem. Even if the Hawks can right the ship, they’ve given the Preds a huge amount of confidence. Confidence leads to success and mystically heightened playing abilities. The Hawks can play their collective asses off tomorrow night, but I doubt the Preds are going to lay down and die. I expect it will be quite a dogfight no matter how well we play.

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on Apr 21, 2010 10:32 AM CDT reply actions  

Yup, it's going to be an ugly win.

I predict Erat is going to pot an own-goal on Rinne in the 2nd overtime. You read it here first.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Where is Matt Fucking Walker when you need him

At least we knew it was all his fault.

Christ it’s not even Huet.

We need a scapegoat. That’s it! A GOAT, but not what you think.

They should all shave except for the Goatee. I’ll bet that gets us over the top.

I’m shaving now.

Chewing gum?

by laaarmer on Apr 21, 2010 10:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Fuckin’ Vrbata.

www.mjt.org

by ChicoMaki on Apr 21, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice recap, Sam

Have to agree with Toews. We’re not seeing the same guy who was the best forward at the Olympics. He lost board battles. He RARELY loses board battles.

I hate when they lose.

by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 10:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Me too

So much lost productivity today. It’s driven me to post from work in volume.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know

I saw you posting a lot this morning and was surprised. :)

by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Massive procrastination

I’m the only one in the office this morning, so I’m slacking off on the stuff I’m supposed to do by the afternoon. Well, that, and I’ve never had so many conference calls in one day before. My job requires me to have lunch at my desk, I guess I’ll turn that into work time.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

I want to be optomistic....

…but I have a very bad feeling about this series.

I’ll go out on a limb and say whoever wins Thursday’s game wins the series, but I am getting the same feeling about this club that I had with the President Trophy winning Hawks team in 91, and they got launched in the first round against a team with about 40 less points.

If they end up losing this series, it will be a big dissppointment, but it won’t be the huge upset that the media is talking about. The Preds won 47 games and the Hawks won 52, and that is not a huge difference over 82 games.

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by MPH73 on Apr 21, 2010 10:49 AM CDT reply actions  

I hated the expectations

I love this team but I for one never thought they were “entitled to something.” We haven’t won since ‘61 and haven’t proven a thing with this thing, other than potential. And that means nothing if left unrealized.

Saying who wins Thursday wins like like saying whoever converts a 5 on 3 wins the game, but playing the probabilities it’s a no-brainer. I expect to see Game 7 ’Hawks in Game 4.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dissapointing yes

I’ve tried to distance myself from reading/posting too much. I’m holding off b/c I’m still a littled pissed off, not the expectations or anything, but just that they didn’t come to play. I’m just ready for Thursday, so no more BS. I usually stay away from reading much after a loss, but lets hope that they come to play! Enough of my b.s for now.

by Jrs23 on Apr 21, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have to disagree a little

I definitely don’t think a Cup or a trip to the WCF is a given or something the team is entitled to.

However, I think the team has built up expectations by their play for most of the season and their talent level. We know this is a good team, on paper and in person. We’ve seen them play better than this. I feel it’s reasonable to expect them to play to their potential and skill level and to be disappointed when they don’t.

by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Potential and skill level yes

Mental strength, we’ll see. I think they’ve got it, and Game 4 will show it. Getting out of this series will earn them their stripes.

In some ways, given their habit of “playing down to the perceived level of opposition,” I’m not that surprised this is happening. I feel like we’d be doing better if we played Scum in the first round.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

agree about game 4

Stan (or Daddy or whoever the eff runs things) should pay close attention to how each person plays.

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by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

But my own expectations are sometimes a little higher. I always hold and take to heart a loss. It’s not that they lost, it’s more of the fact of HOW they lost. If they are going to lose the series, i’ll get over it in the summer and get ready for the next year. I’m TRYING not to think that way, i’m just stating that being a little dissapointed like you said because of there potential and the skill level. Now put that together and knowing from seeing them play it gives me an ulcer ha.

Thats another reason, why my own expectations for Thursday will come from expecting them to outwork the Preds, from the little board battles, to moving the puck out the zone, etc..

by Jrs23 on Apr 21, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll add...

…if (and its a big if) the Hawks win on Thursday, I say they win the series in 6.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Apr 21, 2010 10:53 AM CDT reply actions  

Since you mentioned the '91 team

the following year, the team that went to the finals, also started down 2-1 in the opening round…and went on to win in six. Yeah I know that has NOTHING to do with living in the now, but 2-1 doesn’t mean – series over…which is the same way I would’ve felt if the Hawks would’ve won last night.

Sure, I was extremely disappointed. I turned it off right after Erat hit the back of the net on the PS. But the series is still far from over. A lot of people (particularly ones that discovered this year that Chicago had a hockey team) in typical Chicago-sports fan armageddon style, act like we’re down 3-0…it might be a one game difference, but it’s far different from the current situation we’re in.

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by HawkVision on Apr 21, 2010 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I also correlate...

…this to both Hawks Blues series from 1990 and 1992. In 90, the Hawks went down 2-1 and won in 7. In 92 they went down 2-1 and won 3 straight. In fact before game 4 in 1992, I recall Keenan got pissed at the club during the practice before game 4 and walked out of the rink and sat outside. I remember the TV crews catching him sitting by himself in the parking lot.

The Hawks need to wake themselves up here and only they can do it. Something has not been quite right with this club since sometime in February, and I wonder if they have it in them at this particular time to dig down. If they do, they will win the series, but they won’t do it on just talent alone.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Apr 21, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting thought

Saw somebody suggest that we ice the Kane-Toews-Hossa line again and have everybody else focus on defense.

If this team fears the Sharks so much, maybe loading up our top line is a good idea?

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 11:46 AM CDT reply actions  

That'd be me

I’d just as soon stick with the lines as they were going in, but we’re talking Q here. He’s probably at work creating another ‘this thing’ as we speak, so I figured why not throw out some thoughts. In a series where offense has been at a premium, I just wondered if there was any merit in icing a top line that didn’t have a proverbial albatross on it. And it wasn’t so much that the rest just focus on defense, more that the other 3 lines in that scenario should in theory be fairly capable defensively.

by Hjammer of the Gods on Apr 21, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

What's funny is the only teams I feared were the Nucks and the Scum.

Know who I fear the most now? The Hawks.

I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.

by Preacher000 on Apr 21, 2010 12:18 PM CDT reply actions  

isn't that the old Gump Worsley joke?

While playing for for some consistently poor New York squads, HOF goalie Worsley was asked which team game him the most trouble. His answer, of course, was “the Rangers”.

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Apr 21, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't know that, but it applies here.

Even Sassone was tough in his blog. “We waited 6 months for this?” Ouch.

I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.

by Preacher000 on Apr 21, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

heh. As media conscience as McD is

I hope he’s seeing/hearing all of this.I don’t think even he is saying right now “at least they’re talking about us.” Worst words to describe a team is No Heart

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by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really don't think Versteeg looked impressive at all

He had a few good plays entering the zone, but when his only mindset is making a flashy play entering the zone, hes going to get lucky a few times. I noticed multiple times last night him holding the puck too long trying to make the extra move as opposed to dishing it off or simply dumping it in low.

by jeff021690 on Apr 21, 2010 12:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Not to mention

His laziness getting back on the Legwand goal. He skated hard almost the whole way, the pulled up. One or two more hard strides and he puts himself into a position to either dive and knock down that pass, or reach his stick out and tap it away.

by jeff021690 on Apr 21, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought Niemi played well except...

for that penalty shot. Is it just me or did anyone notice that Antti was way too far in his net and hunched over making himself small with his glove hand pretty low. He was almost begging Erat to go high glove side. That’s fine if he expects to stop it, but he was beaten pretty easily with a lot of room to spare for Erat to shoot up top. Has this always been Niemi’s shootout style and I just haven’t noticed it before?

by EamusCatuli23 on Apr 21, 2010 12:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Buff is being Buff again....lazy and semi-raatarded

Bolland…….is that really him out there???
Coach Q is opening the door for Mr Bowman

"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson

by ccm on Apr 21, 2010 12:44 PM CDT reply actions  

The Buff on defense project needs to end...

Put him on the third or fourth line and let him be lazy in front of Rinne’s net rather than ours. Then at least he has a chance to do some good rather than coughing up scoring chances to the wrong teams forwards.

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by bobby h on Apr 21, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok...ok...I got it

….this is where Huet starts and we ride him to the cup!!!

"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson

by ccm on Apr 21, 2010 12:45 PM CDT reply actions  

salt/wounds

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by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmm

maybe if he suggested putting Huet on defense…
or on a line… But speaking of acid…

I must be having one hell of a flashback. Kopecky is scoring PP goals and we’re down in the series but none blame the goalie. This can’t be reality

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by Johnny Lava on Apr 21, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

The team is playin like crap.......

The talent is there…..jus not motivated….. big juicey contracts…..

"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson

by ccm on Apr 21, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hossa fell and lost his helmet too

I hear the Twilight Zone theme playing

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Apr 21, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sported the sadface

When I woke up this morning.

Great write up of what happened last night, and the Blackhawks certainly did not play with enough tempo.

Just a note on the Nashville defense. Did anyone end up with some statistics on the blocked shots last night for Nashville? Even into the third period where the Hawks were able to sustain some pressure in the latter half, it seemed like everything thrown at the net had a body in front of it. We need to screen more and spread their defensive zone coverage out.

I watched the post game interviews with Q, Toews, Madden, and Sharp on the Hawks site this morning when I got into work. I think it’s an understatement to say that every one on that team knows game 4 is a must win. However, I’m waiting for this team to actually play like they have been all season. Hell, even just a couple of weeks ago. Their speed and offensive prowess hasn’t become a factor yet in this series, and I think that’s where our obvious strengths are. Nashville is playing a boring, reactive game where they sit and wait for us to make a mistake. Granted, the Preds have been playing exactly how they’ve wanted to for the majority of this series, and I think last night was their best performance yet.

We need to get back to being confident with the puck, and having their defense be on their heels. This tit for tat bullshit is very annoying, and we’re at a disadvantage when we limit our play to mimicking Nashville’s approach. I fully expect a drastic improvement come Thursday, and will be looking for the Hawks to assertive themselves early.

by hawkjack on Apr 21, 2010 1:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Er

*Assert themselves early.

by hawkjack on Apr 21, 2010 1:29 PM CDT reply actions  

No kidding. I hate that thing. And to me it looks like a sheep/human thing, but whatever, get rid of it.

by K_Dog on Apr 21, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well I guess that's my last SCH meet up

At least until next year. I’ve managed to shake bad mojo from apparel items before, so it should work the same way, right? But god damn, I quit drinking, I started going to work early, I bought stuff for homeless people – wtf is wrong with my karma.

Sanguis Bibimus. Corpus Edimus. Tolle Corpus Sharpi.

by TrialsBass on Apr 21, 2010 3:47 PM CDT reply actions  

well...

it was nice seeing/meeting you then… maybe i’ll see you next yr. lopl

fisting barry rozner with every goal!!!

by soupy's spin-o-rama on Apr 21, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

when the stakes are slightly lower.

Sanguis Bibimus. Corpus Edimus. Tolle Corpus Sharpi.

by TrialsBass on Apr 21, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I did see KtG

But that was a total accident (as we work in the same building) and should have no bearing on tomorrow’s game.

Sanguis Bibimus. Corpus Edimus. Tolle Corpus Sharpi.

by TrialsBass on Apr 21, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I share that sentiment...

…I can’t believe the Hawks are really this BAD…it’s as if I don’t deserve the Cup. Am I being punished? Well am I? What the fuck is going on here?

The less a man makes declarative statements, the less apt he is to look foolish in retrospect.

by Overserved on Apr 21, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thankfully we're only 3 games through the series

It feels like we’re so much closer to defeat than we actually are. Maybe the hockey gods are just messing with us.

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Calling on the captain?
I’m only a blogger (and not a very good one at that), but I’m going to go ahead and call out Jonathan Toews.

You’re not the only one as I have for various parts this season. It really hasn’t been his best of season’s not by a longshot. Don’t know if he’s injured or what but he hasn’t been his usual dominant self. Babcock seemed to get through to him and had Toews playing at his peak during the Olympics where he was the best player in the tournament. The story in Chicago, however, has been completely different.

Let’s face it he is our best player. His will can ultimately decide a series. He is our Crosby and Zetterberg while Kane is our Malkin and Datsyuk. Kane can help us win games but it’s Toews that drives this racecar.

For the ‘Hawks to be successful in this series Jonathan Toews’ will has to be stronger than anyone else’s on both sides and if he does turn it on the there will be no stopping the ’Hawks. As Toews goes, so do the ’Hawks.

2010 PLAYOFFS: ROUND ONE
The triumphant achievement or death sentence for the Niemisis.

by hawks61 on Apr 21, 2010 5:01 PM CDT reply actions  

One thing the coaching staff has done is successfully hump Troy Brouwer into submission. As the Fifth Feather mentioned tonight, this is a Top-6 forward who poured in over 20 goals this year, and now he can’t find a role?

Reminds me of Rick Nash at the Olympics. How did Babcock get him going? Put him with Toews. Sounds like a perfect solution to me, but Q will obviously disagree. Anything that makes sense doesn’t to Q.

2010 PLAYOFFS: ROUND ONE
The triumphant achievement or death sentence for the Niemisis.

by hawks61 on Apr 21, 2010 5:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Take Eager out?

But who will take those idiotic penalties that will give the ‘Hawks 2 full minutes to employ their best offensive strategy in this series to date. The PK has had more chances to score than anything 5-on-5 or 4-on-4 and don’t get me started on the PP.
When Kopecky is centreing the second line you know things are bad. Fuck, and I used to complain when Denis Arkhipov was the centre of the 2nd PP unit.

2010 PLAYOFFS: ROUND ONE
The triumphant achievement or death sentence for the Niemisis.

by hawks61 on Apr 21, 2010 5:11 PM CDT reply actions  

You mean you’re practiceing your Canadian English?

by HungryHungryPanda on Apr 21, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wait, so

Canadian English is just American English with fewer rules?

by VerStig on Apr 21, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's the Wild West of grammar

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on Apr 21, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gang: I read this blog all the time and don’t post too much so hang in with me.

I’m concerned and as thursday gets closer, i’m getting nervous. Last year coming back from being down was no problem. i don’t see the same intensity that we saw last season and that what makes me nervous. Q shuffliong the lines now is nuts. there’s not consistency. you can do it during the regular season, but in the playoffs there has to be more consistency. I gotta believe that someone in the room steps up and rights the ship. We can’t bow out in the first and I not thinking that we will, but we gotta win thursday. Put kane, toews, and hossa together. That always sparks something.

Sorry if I repeated anything here, but this has beeen theraputic!!!

by Iron Mike on Apr 21, 2010 7:18 PM CDT reply actions  

SCH: cheaper than therapy

and legal, unlike beating Yankee fans with bricks

by Katherine215 on Apr 21, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

now that’s therapy i’d pay for. as well as bring the bricks

by Iron Mike on Apr 21, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Q shuffling the lines now is nuts.

As I said over at Fifth Feather these lines make sense to me. For all those that say it’s not about matchups, so far in this series it has been. Legwand has 5 points in three games.

Playing Sharp at center is one of Coach Q’s trump cards and he is playing it. It allows Bolland to play 3rd line center to match up against Legwand. Then Madden can play 4th line center. And putting Kane and Toews together gives the Preds coach incentive to play Legwand against Toews. I don’t think the Hawks coach can address a matchup problem any better than that…

Also if Campbell comes back this game then you still need Buff in the lineup just in case. Hey you just don’t know how long Soup might last. So in practice Bickel just might be a placeholder for where Buff ends up…

by DaleHalas on Apr 22, 2010 9:00 AM CDT reply actions  

I want to believe you

As I’ve said all along, this team thrives when it defends well, so if you disrupt some offensive chemistry in order to get better defensive play, I would think that would be worth it.

I feel a little antsy about Madden playing 4th line center — I don’t think that’s worked too well this year — and I still have to wonder about splitting up Toews and Hossa. I’m still worried, but given your point I feel a little better about sitting back and watching.

by VerStig on Apr 22, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

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