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Ain't nothing but a love tap: Deconstructing Dave Bolland

Rats!
They fought the dogs and killed the cats,
And bit the babies in the cradles,
And ate the cheeses out of the vats,
And licked the soup from the cooks' own ladles,
Split open the kegs of salted sprats,
Made nests inside men's Sunday hats,
And even spoiled the women's chats,
By drowning their speaking
With shrieking and squeaking
In fifty different sharps and flats.


-- "The Pied Piper of Hamelin," Robert Browning

(Disclaimer: I'm pretty sure I ingested some spiked cannoli tonight, so that's probably where this post came from. Remind me next time not to eat random catered food that's left out in public -- you just don't know what's in that ish. In other news, I'm really looking forward to trying the unidentifiable mushroomy thing that I also grabbed from the same table.)

People blame rats for all sorts of things: spoiled food supplies, insomnia, slow descents into insanity and cannibalism (as in H.P. Lovecraft's "The Rats in the Walls"), elephantine fear, structural damage, still no cure for cancer, weakened unions, and the Plague (okay, so that one has some merit). And after Game 2 in San Jose, you can probably add Joe Thornton's slashing penalty to that list.

The rat in question, of course, being Dave Bolland, third line center and freshly anointed playoff vermin.


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What would you do, if confronted face-to-face with Dave Bolland at his most teeth-baring, ornery, unscrupulous? He ate all your leftovers while insulting your taste in music, choice of home decor, and family lineage, and punctuating his tirade by simultaneously farting and urinating on your cat. That's what I'd imagine playing against Bolland is like. You could describe him in other pesty ways -- a flea, a gnat, a worm, a fungus, a nasty infection in the privates -- but rat seems to fit him best. He has the beady eyes shrewdly seeking out not only the best way to lift his opponent's stick, but also the tender, unprotected spots that will sting like a catheter if he just gives them a quick whack. Like Reepicheep from Chronicles of Narnia, Bolland emerges long enough to stab someone in the foot, then disappears from sight as his weakened enemy is finished off by human soldiers. Every inch of ice contains the crisp possibility of a pass taken away; every cubic foot of arena air between him and his opponent can be negated with his next act of aggression. We can see the coarse black hair, hiding skin that must be as thick as the walls he chews through at night.


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Rats bring bad portents, everyone knows that. They carry in their grim little snouts famine, pestilence, and death. On the Isle of Man, you're not even allowed to say the word, because of an ancient maritime superstition. And yet, Bolland's teammates have no problem acknowledging the rat amongst them -- in fact, they seem damn proud of the fact. He exudes the same interruptive consistency as Sammy Pahlsson, circa 2007 (the year of Pahlsson's Selke nomination), while also exhibiting the edge-of-unwise physical ferocity of former junior coach Dale "La Petite Peste" Hunter, circa 1986 (the year the Nordiques first won the Adams Division title, and coincidentally the year Bolland was born).

He plays like the crisis point between a postmodern wind-blown NHL pivot and his burly snarl-faced counterpart from 20 years prior, and some of it is the result of conscious adjustments. The juxtaposition of styles makes him seem compactly mobile while skittering across all three zones, and yet somehow inefficient, as one observing his slow-motion windup might puzzle over.


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Like Pahlsson and other checking line centers, Bolland cannot be explained by numbers alone. Eventually, his position breaks down into a ritual weighing of happiness at perceived results and intellectual skinning of What He Actually Does. His goal production thus far belies his body of work in juniors, he is routinely battered in terms of Corsi and Fenwick, and his faceoff percentage lately has been impressively dismal (in Game 2, he won a ludicrous 9% of draws). Yet, his Corsi relative to Quality of Competition rating is perennially one of the highest in the league, and when healthy, he can provide a generous amount of offense. Perhaps the best holistic measure of Bolland's value, then, lies in the fascinating estimation of his coach.

Last season, Quenneville put together that lightning-in-a-bottle line of Bolland, Ladd and our dearly departed Havlat. Rather than playing like Three Blind Mice, they knotted together their various talents to become the ultimate rat king: a zoologically unique congealment of separate minds into one grimy entity, an omen to all who stumbled across them.

This season, because Bolland missed so much time, and took so long getting back to his full toxic health, we might as well have been watching Algernon trapped in his lab maze, eyes trained fearfully on the descent into erratic behavior and loss of cognition. Instead, Quenneville has recreated the rat army from Willard (the original, please), with Bolland acting as Ben, swearing vengeance upon human injustices.


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It goes quite a ways past method acting, however. This rat doesn't do it for the accolades, just like he didn't go around spreading the plague in the Middle Ages because of some rumor that hemorrhaging lymph nodes and tissue necrosis brings all the girls to the yard. This rat is able to laugh about his craft: "When I know I'm in someone's head, that's good. I don't know what I do to get in his head, but it's fun. There's a bit of an energy that comes to me when it does happen because it's a privilege..." A third of the European continent dead, as the Sedins will tell you, and for every Corsi point Bolland doesn't have, he's got at least two barbaric taunts that show up on his opponents' faces as vividly as rodent bites might.


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Which brings us back to Jumbo Joe, who reacted as men do when confronting vermin -- strike out at them, set simple traps around the house, and then, when that inevitably doesn't work because rodents don't actually like cheese, curse steadily into the air. To the rat, though, it's all part of its umwelt. Welcome to the self-centered world of Dave Bolland.


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In the comments, please share your favorite episodes of Itchy and Scratchy, as an offering to the anthropomorphic quality of Bolland in these playoffs, destroying everything within the walls. Here's an early classic.

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The things I learn on SCH...

That there’s a Brit named Banksy that paints caricatures of vermin on walls… (amongst other things) and I can’t stop looking at them!

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

not just Vermin

And he recently was in Chicago. He seems to be doing some sort of world tour too. I think some of his stuff just showed up in Toronto.

by Killion on May 20, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

brilliant stuff

there’s a guy on the Venice Beach boardwalk who mounts Banksy prints onto wooden blocks at $15 a pop. my fave is the leopard emerging from a barcode cage, but this post gives the rat ones new meaning.

"But I like to have fun!" - Meatball

by nush on May 20, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I never heard of this person until today

Thanks GMH!

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Banksy is the best...

Check out his new movie… “Exit Through The Gift Shop.” A VERY creative guy.

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by ZenPop on May 20, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Kenny Linsemen of politics was...

a man named Don Segretti. He was one of Nixon’s shadowy operatives in the 1972 campaign, and coined the term “ratfucking” to describe his impressive array of dirty tricks designed to destroy political opponents. The most infamous example of his handiwork is Watergate (what, you thought Nixon came up with that on his own?) but another nasty deed involved a forged letter maligning Canadians, purported to be written by senator and presidential contender Ed Muskie. Fallout from the fake letter ultimately doomed Muskie’s campaign, forcing him to withdraw.

Not sure how all this is connected to the 2010 NHL playoffs.. but the political history books refer to Segretti’s undoing of Muskie as “the Canuck Letter” (hmmm…) and any cheesehead will tell you a Muskie isn’t a politician, but a slimy bottom-dwelling creature of another sort.

 So it adds up… time to ratfuck another big fish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Segretti

"..and what's on your Christmas list, partner?" P. Foley
"I expect to get leather goods for Christmas.. a belt in the mouth, and a boot in the ass." D. Tallon, 1985

by Gate3anuhHalf on May 21, 2010 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nice job tying all that together!

Rodent intercoursing, Deep Throat, Blame Canada, fishing…
And it all comes back to hockey. Doesn’t everything?

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on May 21, 2010 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bansky!

Great post!

"FACEOFF!" "Makes the pass." "FIGHT!" - 8 bit hockey

by chevrier30 on May 20, 2010 5:31 AM CDT reply actions  

thanks, now I can finally get some sleep

most of the time that it took to write this post was actually spent trawling through hundreds of Banksy images on Flickr, fml.

by gmh on May 20, 2010 5:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Funny

You’re going to sleep, I’m going to work. Wanna trade?

Oh, I’ve done the Banksy thing on flickr for hours too. WHee!

"FACEOFF!" "Makes the pass." "FIGHT!" - 8 bit hockey

by chevrier30 on May 20, 2010 6:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

He is. A few of his pieces have been popping up around Chicago

At least two that I know of have been confirmed on his site

Tremendously tremendous

by synaptique on May 20, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Have you seen his film yet?

I’m hoping to see Exit Through The Gift Shop this weekend. I’ve been too busy lately to go see films. Gee, I wonder what could have been on TV the last six weeks that has taken up most of my free time?

"FACEOFF!" "Makes the pass." "FIGHT!" - 8 bit hockey

by chevrier30 on May 20, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd forgotten completely about his film

but now I’ll have to go see it. Love the Century, haven’t been in awhile.

by gmh on May 20, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Seeing it with my girlfriend this Saturday, actually.

I have his book (one of them? no idea if there are more). What’s cool as hell, aside from his art of course, is that he instantly upped the value of that shithole of a building by at least 25% by tagging it.

Tremendously tremendous

by synaptique on May 20, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

And also....

Bolland actually has decent stickhandling skills and can shoot. It’s too bad he missed so much time this year because he had such a great year last year. He is back to form for sure.

by ieat_people on May 20, 2010 5:39 AM CDT reply actions  

It's worth remembering

he began the year on a pretty effective scoring line at the beginning of the season centering for Kane and Buff.

by Scott13 on May 20, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

When I think of rats I think of Willard and his friend Ben

Willard’s Mother: Oh, what is that on your hand?
Willard: I… it’s, it’s soap.
Willard’s Mother: It’s cooking oil! Oh, Willard, you’re too old for that! When will – when will you find yourself a girl?

I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield

by stacie7 on May 20, 2010 6:05 AM CDT reply actions  

Willard

nice…

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by cliffkoroll on May 20, 2010 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is awesome.

Way to extend that metaphor!

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 6:46 AM CDT reply actions  

I was just thinking

He reminds me a little of Kenny “The Rat” Linsman, Steve Kasper and Keith Acton. All annoying but likable pests.

by Gbubbs on May 20, 2010 6:56 AM CDT reply actions  

one significant quibble

the rat/irritant role is the most non-self-centered role on a hockey team. It is the very quintessential team player role – totally subsuming the self into the ‘good of the team’ and sacrificing individual honors (goals, assists, high Corsi, good plus/minus) for the greater goal of winning (and your part being to totally focus on undermining the opposition’s big gun). You re the guy that night after night throws yourself on their live grenade for the good of the team.

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 20, 2010 7:38 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

so KUDOS to our little rat Bolland

I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield

by stacie7 on May 20, 2010 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

kinda fits his personality, from what we've seen of it

he always seems to be pretty self-conscious when they interview him, like he’d rather be elsewhere doing his thing. I don’t know how many of you guys here listened to the last podcast with Al Cimaglia, but he described Bolland as a hockey player’s hockey player, which sounds about right to me.

This is why I got the guy’s jersey last year.

That, and he says shit like “love tap”.

But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."

(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)

by chiblackhawks on May 20, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't mean "self-centered"

as in self-absorbed. It was used in context of the word umwelt.

by gmh on May 20, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like this

I like it a lot. Do you have any more of that cannoli?

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-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)

by HungryHungryPanda on May 20, 2010 7:45 AM CDT reply actions  

unfortunately, no

dude who was giving all the “catered” food away was sort of sketch, now that I think about it.

by gmh on May 20, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sketch as in "Banksy Sketch"?

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is awesome

and can we add that cannoli to the list of things we’re bringing to the cupcake competition?

by WhatWouldBurishDo on May 20, 2010 7:47 AM CDT reply actions  

rec'd

your range is extraordinary.

top fucking notch stuff.

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by cliffkoroll on May 20, 2010 8:34 AM CDT reply actions  

Blame it on the Cannolis

I see.

Great write up.

Best rat of all time though was definitely Master Splinter.

When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.

by HolyBlackhawksBatman on May 20, 2010 8:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Nicodemus

from Rats of Nimh. He even had a playoff beard.

"But I like to have fun!" - Meatball

by nush on May 20, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Beard of the Day!

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes I thought the same

just after hitting “post”

"But I like to have fun!" - Meatball

by nush on May 20, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

that would be an awesome beard of the day

that old rat knew his shit (no offense to Master Splinter)

by puppetmasterp on May 20, 2010 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the post!

Nice. As anything with massive Banksy material would be. I was in Surat, India in winter of ‘04/05… didn’t see Dave Bolland.

It's my ass. It's huge. Smell it. Focus on it. Stare into it's unending beauty. It will be your undoing.

by Hungryhawk on May 20, 2010 9:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Random Question: What happened to a little chippy?

I surely miss her wit and wisdom.

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 9:16 AM CDT reply actions  

A.K.A. KofC

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

someone recently said something a computer failure for her

but she tossed a couple comments around not too long ago

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 20, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of rats...

Roenick pulling for Sharks

“If you held a gun to my head and I had to choose one, I think San Jose,’’ said Roenick

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 9:27 AM CDT reply actions  

Burn him!

Picture bloodbaths and elevator shafts
Like these murderous rhymes tight from genuine craft

by chrome on May 20, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

ha ha ha...

…and Sharks’ fans are getting shit over booing Campbell…

Look. I understand. Roenick was a Hawk… well.. THE Hawk, for years.
But his reasons are fairly solid. He loves Chicago. He loves San Jose.
But there’s a ton of recent connections that are still in San Jose. He was treated wonderfully by the organization and the fans. I don’t think there’s any dis involved to Chicago.

…having said all that: If I was a Chicago fan, I’d be pissed, too.

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by ZenPop on May 20, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

just shut up. we all hate you and Roenick equally now.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

How ironic...

I’ve become the Bolland of the board.

ha ha…

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by ZenPop on May 20, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

More like Avery

Chewing gum?

"Alex didn't cause Campbell's injury, the boards did."

by laaarmer on May 20, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

no. I refuse that one.

No Avery. No Ott.

Scotty Nichol. I’ll be him.

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by ZenPop on May 20, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ron Hextall

Chewing gum?

"Alex didn't cause Campbell's injury, the boards did."

by laaarmer on May 20, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

no.

Bryan Marchment. ok.
Mike Ricci. ok.

…use an ex-shark, pain in the ass…

but no to Hextall.

XTC • Stone Roses • The Chills • The Chameleons • The Delgados • GBV • Menomena • Cloud Cult • The National • Neil Young • The Pernice Brothers • Straitjacket Fits... GREAT MUSIC THAT SHOULD BE HEARD...

by ZenPop on May 20, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can only speak for myself, I'm more amused than pissed.

Backing Doug Wilson is a no brainer, he’s a class act.

As for Roenick…
The dude puts his foot in his mouth so often, you’d think his shoes were Bourbon flavored.
My favorite was when Patrick Roy cupped his hands over his ears and said “Jeremy, I can’t hear you, my Championship rings are blocking my ears”.
Again, Bless his heart

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha ha

I hadn’t heard that one… that’s good.

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by ZenPop on May 20, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

that’s awesome. Thanks for the post!

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by ZenPop on May 20, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

His reasoning is pretty logical

all his friends are still there. I don’t really blame him, but I do want to make him regret that choice.

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 9:35 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I guess... a good man should always stick by his friends

But sometimes, you need to just STFU

Jeremy doesn’t have that gift, bless his heart (Henry Cho reference)

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

it's JR being JR

we all remember him and milbury during the olympics…if it can’t be controversial he doesn’t want a part in it…should’ve just not chosen a side and let it go…no one did put a gun to his head..

by desertindian on May 20, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

...yet

But would a gun to his head have the potential to harm him?

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hope that one day JR will return to the Hawks in one capacity or another

I don’t believe he says things simply to create controversy but rather he speaks his mind irrespective of the consequences. I respect him for that.

by Badgerdano on May 20, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know - he's an East Coast guy (with a West Coast personality)

and I seem to recall that he bought a country club somewhere out east

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 20, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I respect him, too.

Jeromy has no filter.

In the immortal words of Bertuzzi the Philosopher: It is what it is.

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by ZenPop on May 20, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

especially one who quotes Bertuzzi?

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

The first, last and only

time to quote Bertuzzi.

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by ZenPop on May 20, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

i would hope SO!

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

you got it.

you nailed this, before I posted. (didn’t see your post.)

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by ZenPop on May 20, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

He actually said

he’d be happy either way, and that he’s a Blackhawk to his core.

But the choice boiled down to Doug Wilson and how Dougie resurrected his career when he thought he was finished after Phoenix, giving JR a chance to retire with his head held high. I can’t blame a guy for that.

Some idiots posting on the Trib article decided to demonstrate their hockey acumen by claiming Roenick wasn’t much of a player, etc. Obviously, JR was WAY above average as a player (if not necessarily HOF material), but my favorite memory remains the moment in his rookie year when he skated over to the zebra and spit his busted chicklets into his hand to make sure the opponent got the major. That spunk characterized JR then, throughout his career, and still now.

teaching respect for the Indian, one Red Wing fan at a time.

by 334Rules on May 20, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

good read

food for thought anyway

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by cliffkoroll on May 20, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's interesting looking at the perspective of someone who isn't a homer for either team.

I just think it goes to show that in many ways stats aren’t a true representation of a player. I’m assuming Bolland was also outchanced in the Vancouver series, but he took Henrik (and therefore Daniel too) out of the game. And now, even though the HTML line is outchancing the line, it’s clear that they are starting to wear on the Sharks. While the Bolland line certainly frees up the Kane/Toews/Buff line, I don’t think that was the real reason for the switch

by blackhawkeyes on May 20, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

when you have daniel sedin and joe thornton

taking roughing and slashing penalties, you know the line’s doing some good work, even if they are being outchanced. so long as the hawks are winning games, scoring chances aren’t a good factor to decide line match-ups.

gosh, i sound like one of the old guys arguing against moneyball.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

And not just penalties

but penalties in key situations when those guys need to be on the ice. When Thornton took that slash the Sharks had momentum and enough time to tie the game, but not only is he unavailable for the next two minutes but the team is short handed. There is no stat to quantify what that means.

by Scott13 on May 20, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Had to be one of the dumbest penalties I've ever seen.

Completely selfish. Did he really think he’d get away with that?

by Badgerdano on May 20, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

"I hate Billy Beane for writing that dumb book with all it's numbers."

-A Joe Morgan’s opinion

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 2:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

And destroying the game of baseball as we’d always incorrectly played it.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's cuz he had a shitty career OPS

coupla great years for a WS winner at the right time = HOF.

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by cliffkoroll on May 20, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, whipper-snapper...

Go easy on us old people.

Hey, what’s moneyball? Did I miss a memo from the senior center?
Maybe I should change the batteries in my hearing aid.

Now run along now, lad, before I smack you with my cane.

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Switch
While the Bolland line certainly frees up the Kane/Toews/Buff line, I don’t think that was the real reason for the switch

Like I’ve said before I thought the original move of Bolland to the third line was to deal with Legwand who was hurting the Hawks. Toews couldn’t play both the top line and the third line.

After that I actually agree with that CnB statement. If Bolland can play the checking role then Toews doesn’t have to match top lines for top lines. That lets him play with Kane without needing Ladd or Brouwer. Or Hossa instead of Kane if things got really bad…

by DaleHalas on May 20, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still see Bolland on 3rd line as being more his point in the rehab process

his offensive output capacity isn’t yet back to where it was when he was appropriately slotted as the #2 center, where Sharp is filling in now

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 21, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is great!

I find myself entertained. So is this like a “whisker of the day?”

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 10:10 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

bwahahahaha

Both get recs from me for ingenuity.

The sun never sets on a badass

by Trixietrx on May 20, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have a beard of the day ready to go

but i feel bad knocking this down from the top spot. So the beard will come a little later on..

by Killion on May 20, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

apparently

this Banksy is in your neck of the woods? Or was, anyway, I’m not sure if it’s still there since the photo was uploaded in 2008.

by gmh on May 20, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm, I'll have to go check

but I don’t think so… I know there’s some kind of America-themed mural on the building to the left now, but I feel like I would’ve noticed this (or would I have?)

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah, that's a shame

that’s one of the cleverest pieces he’s ever done, in my opinion.

by gmh on May 20, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

rec'd!

Love the broad spectrum of reading material we get here. Hats off to you gmh on another great post!

by Coz_Bulls_Fan on May 20, 2010 10:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Remember Brian Skrudland? Ex-Panther, Rat-killer.

I seem to recall he killed a rat in the locker room with his hockey stick. Just reading about rats made me think about that. It is exciting to see the Bolland-Ladd playing at the top of their game. Absolutely awesome! HAWKS!

LUigi was found dead at the scene, murdered by a Chelsea Dagger.

by pucknut on May 20, 2010 10:31 AM CDT reply actions  

as the copper & blue article notes those, the "stats" make it look like they're terrible

another indicator of how the stats alone – though USUALLY good – are not a full or complete assessment of how a player is doing

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 20, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm curious about gmh's pointing out of "Corsi relative to QoC" though

(btw, love that there are tasty little morsels like this scattered throughout this grimy maze of a post!)

Chris Burton, if you’re around… what’s the word on Joel Ward and David Legwand this season? Have they been really good matching up against other teams’ top lines?

Of course it’s not a complete assessment, but while these guys’ Corsi ratings are all negative, there’s a good reason for that. I’m still trying to figure out a good way to pick through the dirt and litter and figure out how to make my own morsel crumb pie.

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have no idea

why that’s in there. I was trying to rummage through some numbers last night to add to the post so it wasn’t all just graffiti rats, but sort of failed because I was, um, mentally inhibited. I think a numerical deconstruction of the third line might be necessary sometime in the summer, but that’ll be an extremely daunting task. Someone’s gonna have to be a hero, though.

by gmh on May 20, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

"hero" is what they call the ones who don't come back from the battle, right?

I used to think it was simply a synonym for “dead guy”

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 20, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nope,

My father met the greatest Americansoldier on the day I was born. They talked about This. When dad asked him why he didn’t abandon the tank, Audie said that his boots melted to it because of the fire. They both laughed, and they both knew the statement was bullshit. He was my fathers Hero to the day he died, and he will always be one of mine as well.

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on May 20, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well,

it was one of those stories that I grew up hearing, and it didn’t mean a whole lot to me as a kid. After I served in the Army, I heard it from an entirely different viewpoint. It was the last story he told me before he passed away.
Now when I am asshole deep in alligators at work, I think of dads story, and of Audies story. Problems look smaller then.

Where the fuck did this serious turn come from?!? Back to the regularly scheduled asshattery!

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on May 20, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Asshole deep in alligators sounds pretty much as bad as firing a gun from a burning German tank.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah,

Bitchy bosses are much easier to deal with.

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on May 20, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

So the alligators are metaphorical.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep,

they are almost Metaphorically metaphorical though.

(Ow, I think my brain just cramped)

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on May 20, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

that sounds like something a Stuper hero would yell before taking off.

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on May 20, 2010 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

as long as there’s no cape. no cape.

by puppetmasterp on May 20, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

are there tights

or is he pantsless

I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield

by stacie7 on May 20, 2010 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only SCH...

Would concoct a pantsless super hero

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

But with multi-colored spandex, right?

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on May 20, 2010 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

i’ve always been of the mind that heroism in combat is the direct result of being confused in a different way than those around you. like, huh, what do i do now, they all seem to be running, perhaps i will climb on this burning tank?

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well,

there is no such thing as sanity in combat, so you might be right.

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on May 20, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just remember two stories: one first person (from an Explorer leader who had received the bronze star in Vietnam) and one on a TV interview (from a WWII vet who had received the Medal of Honor). In both cases, the guy had basically frozen while everyone else was running away, and when they all saw not giving up the position, they turned around and ran back. Obviously, there was more to it than that, but they both thought the citations were ridiculous to have received since they’d not done anything “heroic” in their minds; their bodies just hadn’t responded the way they wanted them to.

Audie Murphy of course seems like he just went insane.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Most people that have received awards do not feel that they deserve them. They are mentally wired a little differently than the rest of humanity. Audie on the other hand, if you flip around on the link I posted, was awarded EVERY valor award given by the US, and 5 others from foreign countries.

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on May 20, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, Murphy, as I said, went a little insane.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

over, and over…

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on May 20, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then there is Chesty Puller

guy had like 6 Navy Crosses or something

Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on May 20, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Another insanity clause

the man was impressive

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on May 20, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

a VMI man as well

Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on May 20, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

But,

he was a Marine, don’t that mean… ah never mind. Even though I was Army, even I can’t pick on Chesty.

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on May 20, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was army as well

and VMI, but the guy was nuts, left VMI because he wanted to “go where the guns are”

Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on May 20, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

that’s as good a reason as i’ve heard for leaving a school.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ive actually had lunch at his daughters house a few times

shes very interesting, lots of stories

Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on May 20, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

i can only imagine. most of the war stories i’ve heard come from the crazy vietnam vets who hang around military surplus stores without actually working there. their stories are almost unbearably sad.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

i used to working in a nursing home

four 4 years during college. They had great stories, AND would tell them at the drop of a hat.

AND I GOT PAID TO LISTEN. that was nice.

by puppetmasterp on May 20, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

I personally always liked the funny ones better. Like my Uncle the Pathfinder who had three officers shot while out on patrol, so they “Mavericked” him to O-2. He said that he made sure to wear his flak jacket when around one of his guys…

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on May 20, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would have

used almost any excuss to get out of school, but bullets fucking hurt.

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on May 20, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

all of those big “winners” are out there. i have no doubt that i could try to do something someone would consider heroic one time. i probably wouldn’t survive long enough to get it done. but to both be put in the situation more than once, and to respond to it heroically multiple times, that’s just…well, i’d say those guys found their callings.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on May 20, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

my dad was a 7 Purple Heart guy (Marines, underwater demolition/island scouting stuff)

the stories you’d hear when the other combat vets were visiting (after several beers) were really horrifying

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 21, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

7 purple hearts

is only one shy of the record that no one really wants

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 21, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I did not know he was that close to the record - damn!

After he passed away, a lot of his military stuff went to my nephew (who was in the Army) – but I recall the Puple Heart medal, with the appropriate award stars to go with it being 7 times (an aunt also had the newspaper clippings from the awards – which were reported back in the hometown papers back then) – so I am confident he wasn’t exaggerating

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 21, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

as long as the last award of it wasn't posthumous, the record wouldn't be that bad

I mean, 7 or 8, by that point, what’s one more?
Other than the danger of the posthumous part, that is.

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 21, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

As I said before,

bullets fucking hurt. My uncle always called the Purple Heart the “Duck Stupid” awards.

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on May 21, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Weird Story

I watched his movie To Hell and Back on late night TV when I was a kid, and when it ended, they announced he had died in a plane crash…

So weird…

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thus the constant fall back to the dreaded

Eye Test.

teaching respect for the Indian, one Red Wing fan at a time.

by 334Rules on May 20, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eye Test

The problem with the Dreaded Eye Test is that it always goes hand in hand with the equally dreaded Selective Memory filing system…

by DaleHalas on May 20, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

my eye test tells me

that Daniel Sedin attacked Bolland for seemingly no reason at the end of Game 4, and that Joe Thornton slashed Bolland’s wrists twice in Game 2 hard enough to make Bolland lose his glove.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

BTW

I endorse the Eye Test, when administered by someone with decent hockey judgment.

teaching respect for the Indian, one Red Wing fan at a time.

by 334Rules on May 20, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Harumph,

I guess I’m out.

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on May 20, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am enjoying all the Bolland love I'm seeing lately

Thanks for this post. I think he still may have it in him to be a 2nd line center, but I’m happy with how he’s adapted to a checking role.

But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."

(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)

by chiblackhawks on May 20, 2010 11:05 AM CDT reply actions  

Love the versatility on this team

Bollie and Steegs on the checking line? Sharp as a 2nd line center? Madden anchoring the 4th line so he can be super fresh for the PK? Buff filling in at D in Soupy’s absence? How about the fact that we’ve got 3 guys in the press box who’ve contributed significantly in the past month or two who could easily comprise a 5th line? (Kop, Frazz, Bickell)

Awesome. Just awesome.

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely true TEAM players

They all seem more than willing to take on any role to do what’s best for the team. Can you imagine if someone with personalties like Milton Bradley or Soriano were on this team?

by Badgerdano on May 20, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

in that case, the team would be golfing right now

I think a lot of their success is how tight they are as a group – no locker room cancers and all.

I am thinking that Bolland is still in rehab/comeback mode from the back surgery – the bit of offensive touch may well be still coming in the future (and he may be back to the full fledged 2nd line center we had previously projected)

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 20, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think we're starting to see that

at least my eye test tells me he was more offensively threatening (with crisper passes, and smarter plays going forward) in the last three games

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

What's wrong with my eyes

I’ve read many comments lately that lead me to believe the “eye test” is somewhat reviled in these parts as a measure of judging performance. While i’m all for good statistical analysis (which we have in spades around here), the most powerful and complex computing machine known to mankind sits between my ears. (Well, not between MY ears, but you know what i mean.)
My eyes see. My brain computes. Conclusions are reached. Do i have to prove them with mathematical equations for them to be valid? (Abstract ≠ invalid)
meeshak seems to trust his eyes, and i would agree.
Maybe i’m just misreading the situation. Can somebody explain the “eye” hate i am sensing.

"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie

by nextgame on May 20, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

there isn’t any real eye hate, but during the Great Goalie Debates, a lot of brand new commenters would come on here and say “I don’t care if huet won that game, he doesn’t look good in net” and other riffs on that motif. thus, the institutional distrust of the eye test was born.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Two problems with the eye test

It can lend itself to the Argument from Authority: “This is what I saw, and I know more than you, so I’m right and you’re wrong.”

Also, you can’t prove anyhting with an eye test, so arguments just go round and round.

Having said that, statistical data can never tell the whole story, particularly in such a fluid game as hockey.

Ultimately, I agree with 334Rules when he said:

I endorse the Eye Test, when administered by someone with decent hockey judgment.

And that someone is me.

Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!

by cliffkoroll on May 20, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

So answer me this, someone:

How does Bolland’s play rate?

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have a different question.

Why hasn’t the Sharks top line been a big factor?

BTW, it might help to rank the reasons.

by DaleHalas on May 20, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

One big reason is ... Bolland

thus why I rate his play rather highly (of late).

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 21, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm trying an eye test argument

here. Not going so well just now.

Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!

by cliffkoroll on May 20, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting

When he says prove it, it’s actually on him to prove that his statistics tell us anything about the game.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I should state, I don’t think they have shown that.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think they have, either

It’s subjective, but I don’t think they spent too many words actually making a case for it one way or the other.

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

as you can see...

…I’m shamelessly touting your idea about the limitations of hockey statistics all over the interwebz.

Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!

by cliffkoroll on May 20, 2010 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Have I told you lately that I love you?

Because I do. These numbers are sexy.

Given, I might not love you nearly as much if VerBollLadd weren’t as hot as they currently are, but hey. Take the lumps as they come, yeah?

by spokeinthebandwagon on May 20, 2010 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think I have a crush on his stats

they’re just so pretty.

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

mwahaha. he gone!

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow,

punked but good.

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on May 20, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha.

You can define those all you want, but I have to imagine if your Corsi is negative, you’re not sustaining nearly as much pressure in the offensive zone as you should as a top line.

Man, “Cross-Mutual” sounds really obtuse now. I feel like I should just change it to “Head-to-Head.”

Also, I love my new toy… let me know if you want to play with it.

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

what does worry me

is the fact that the Sharks’ second and third lines are putting in some strong EV performances. I still fear a Pavelski/Setoguchi resurgence, because they’ve had some GOOD shifts against our second and third lines.

tell me more about your shiny new toy.

by gmh on May 20, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

oops

third and fourth lines

by gmh on May 20, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

which is all the more reason for

the Sharks to break up HTML.

Our first line is the only one faring well vs. Big P, and Bolland & Co. are actually making look Malhotra’s line look effective (on paper).

by puppetmasterp on May 20, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ick, say it ain’t so. That’s not a thought I relish at all.

by spokeinthebandwagon on May 20, 2010 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'd be shocked if they didn't

ahnfire and i were discussing this earlier. They prob should’ve done it 2nd game, but i kind of expect to see Setoguchi w/Thornton next game. He hasn’t been producing at all, and there’s a chance that w/Thornton feeding him passes (which Jumbo HAS been doing very well I think) it’ll spark more offense from Setoguchi.

oh, and i’m not saying Malhotra and friends have been effective at all….just on paper w/Verstig’s #s.

by puppetmasterp on May 20, 2010 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

totally congreed

I really feel like the Sharks have gotten good contributions from guys like Couture and Mitchell, and for McLellan to continue icing his top six at the expense of his other lines (who have done decently with pretty even ice time against all of our guys) has to be a bad move in my book.

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shhh! Don’t tell them, it’ll be our secret!

by spokeinthebandwagon on May 20, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

shiny new toy has some hiccups

I had the thing working for away games a few hours ago, but trying to get the list of players on the ice in the 2nd column was )(&##(&@#%LY frustrating…

but basically, I can work with the play-by-play now… it’ll take a little work but stuff like zone starts and period breakdowns are within reach

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh SBN coding

you make comic strip swearing hilarious

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

yay!!

this actually makes me really excited…..

by puppetmasterp on May 20, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sharks’ second and third lines are putting in some strong EV performances.

Not so fast. Q is matching up the lines
Bolland – Thornton
Toews – Pavel
Madden – Nichols
and Sharp and Couture are spread around…

So the Hawks are winning the Corsi’s in the normal matchups.

Now I’m looking at Bolland/Pavel lines and I see where the Bolland line has been “caught” for a couple of longer shifts. It seems the Pavel line has been the second line out there for those shifts.

I’d have to investigate it more but it seems that a few of these combos are only when the Hawks are at the end of their regular shifts and the Sharks are starting theirs. So some of those combos might be a little misleading.

by DaleHalas on May 20, 2010 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Technically it's possible to cross the TOI and Corsi data

and try to figure this out, but I’m not sure how you’d break it down. Maybe consider any shots within 5 (or 10) seconds of a line change as part of Coach Q’s Corsi?

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

cross the TOI and Corsi data

Interesting perspective but I was really talking about the players.

It would be interesting to see a players Corsi number from their first 30 seconds on the ice, their next 30 seconds from the same shift and what happens if they are on the ice longer. To me, it looks like one bad extended shift on the Ice can really skew these numbers.

by DaleHalas on May 21, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is awesome!

I love that Campbell is +20, highest on team.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on May 20, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-RIAN!

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just read that thread

that was hilarious – and a strange thread.

By the way Verstig, how do you get it to click thru?

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on May 20, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you select everything including both ends of the <img> tag

it should work… (oops, I probably should’ve made these open in a new window, huh?)

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like this?

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on May 20, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

The fork in the garbage disposal?

… OKAY!

Because sometimes OKAY! is the only correct response.

by spokeinthebandwagon on May 20, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

i also like how it shows that

even though Keith-Seabs have been getting all the accolades (mostly for their showing vs. HTML), Jelly-Soupy have been the most consistent against EVERYONE.

I love our defense.

by puppetmasterp on May 20, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

so beautiful

like Patrick Sharp-beautiful.

by puppetmasterp on May 20, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

my hero!

But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."

(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)

by chiblackhawks on May 20, 2010 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Having clicked through for the whole thing...

I’m a little disturbed by how much VerBollLadd are getting beaten up on Corsi by the Sharks’ second and third lines. They’re hot against the first line, but against the second/third, they’re not nearly as on the ball.

I’m gratified, however, by how much the Meatball Soup pair seems to pwn the entirety of the SJ offense. They’re a little dicey against the third line, but I’m going to attribute that to the fact that the only time they face the third line is when someone whiffs a change, so it’s all good. Our D numbers are truly something to be celebrated, there.

by spokeinthebandwagon on May 20, 2010 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

but compare it w/TOI

for the 3rd line anyway. they’re not seeing nearly as much time as HTML….which according to these numbers, is fine by us.

by puppetmasterp on May 20, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Head-to-Head TOI for both games

Cross-Mutual (ugh) TOI

I still can’t figure out whether it’s better for the damage to be done with less (more efficient) or more (get more of it) TOI… but BolLaddSteeg are getting most of their time against HTML, for sure.

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wow, apparently ask and we shall recieve. Amazing.

The TOI is reassuring. Matchups that are less advantageous per Corsi are getting way less TOI than matchups that benefit us.

In Q I trust.

by spokeinthebandwagon on May 20, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

EXACTLY

things i hope the Sharks don’t notice…..

by puppetmasterp on May 20, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

how much of those numbers

can be reflected by how early/late it is in the shift? Since McLellan had last change in games 1 and 2, what are the chances of Bolland’s line getting caught in their own zone late in their shifts?

by gmh on May 20, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hehe that's exactly what was going through my head

Since you’re getting double-digit Corsi’s in something like 5 minutes of ice time, you do have to wonder about how this relates to line changes. It’s probably worse on the road than at home.

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh good, I'm not crazy

Only one way to know — wait until after Game 4!

by gmh on May 20, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

sooo....

what do you get if gmh and VerStig have babies?

god only knows but i’m pretty sure they would revolutionize the NHL with pretty charts and graphs

by Coz_Bulls_Fan on May 20, 2010 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol,

My evil mind went a different route. I was thinking of a kid looking at the parents and saying “You’re doing it wrong, and let me show you the stat charts that prove it”

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on May 20, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

that is...

entirely possible. could you imagine dinner conversation over the variables of CORSI? hahaha

by Coz_Bulls_Fan on May 20, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

EAT YOUR BEANS

OR YOU WON’T GET ANY CORSI!

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on May 20, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA

I could see one of them saying that.

by Coz_Bulls_Fan on May 20, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

VerStig?

sounds more like VerStud

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 21, 2010 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

insta rec'd!

this comment is magic. combining Star Wars, Comic-Con, gmh, VerStig, CORSI, aaaaannnnd ant burning in one post takes talent!

by Coz_Bulls_Fan on May 21, 2010 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

ahahaha through my reddened face

I may have to greenify this further, out of respect for your mastery of the ultimate tie-in… god I hope this doesn’t turn into yet another one of our SCH novels

by VerStig on May 21, 2010 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

You can count on me

not to (too wordy, not enough pictures).

VerStig, why don’t you present your finding to the guys over at Copper and Blue? I really think you’re on to something here. Didn’t Derek Zona already comment on your work? Their position is that Bolland is getting spanked. I believe your results stated the contrary.

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on May 21, 2010 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just did...

I don’t know that it’s a complete spanking… I was looking at the shot charts last night and HTML did get a lot more close-range shots off in Game 2 (interestingly, all of VerBolLadd’s were in the slot, near the top of the circles). So maybe it’s more that they were good in Game 1 (and so was Niemi) and lucky in Game 2 (when they started getting frustrated).

by VerStig on May 21, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just saw that

At least your data gives a more balanced perspective. Obviously, no one has come up with the Grand Unified Theory of Hockey, so it’s nice to have multiple manipulations of the data.

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on May 21, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

awww

i have and never will attend comic-con but you have to appreciate the narrative! haha

by Coz_Bulls_Fan on May 21, 2010 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Re-edit

gmh: Look I’ve explained this to you two before. I was at the premiere of Space Balls. I had a few drinks. He was wearing a white helmet…

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on May 21, 2010 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

It might be the rat poison

which of course is perfectly appros for this thread.
See we’re back on topic.

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on May 21, 2010 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

LOL me neither

unless someone actually succeeded in getting me drunk… or poured rat poison into my drink… then I might actually be dead at a Comic-Con!

by VerStig on May 21, 2010 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh hey you

I don’t know yet if I’m doing the preview for my blog today, but if I do, is it okay to post your Mutual CORSI charts? I’ll upload to my own photobucket and link back to wherever you want me to link back to so I can give you credit, of course. Just want to check that it’s cool with you.

But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."

(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)

by chiblackhawks on May 21, 2010 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Of course!

You can direct-link it if you want (esp. to preserve the .png format), or you can snatch it for yourself if you want to guarantee it stays up.

Also, I really think I should change the “Cross-Mutual” label to “Head-to-Head” now (the original can still be “Mutual”), it’s just too clunky.

by VerStig on May 21, 2010 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

As for the link back...

Maybe my original FanPost on Mutual +/-? Or my profile page, or just mention my screen name… doesn’t really matter to me.

by VerStig on May 21, 2010 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

got it; thanks! :)

But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."

(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)

by chiblackhawks on May 21, 2010 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like Head-to-Head

fwiw.

But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."

(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)

by chiblackhawks on May 21, 2010 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah it's what Vic Ferrari uses

except for him it applies both to the same team and the other team… but consistency ftw?

by VerStig on May 21, 2010 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

lolololol

this is PERFECT. Sorry, gmh & VerStig, but if your kids don’t grow up like this I will be very disappointed.

But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."

(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)

by chiblackhawks on May 21, 2010 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think these charts are those babies.

is it weird that I can’t wait to see what they do in the off season?

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

wow

an entire off season to ponder this years stats, how they apply to next year, combines with possible cap moves, and possible replacement players, and how their previous CORSI ratings apply to every team schedules next year…i think my head might asplode…from typing all that.

by Coz_Bulls_Fan on May 20, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love this site

a pretty stat chart comes up and suddenly everyone falls over themselves in glee & ecstasy.

YOU’RE ALL SUCH NERDS.

I love it. :D

by ahnfire on May 21, 2010 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

come on!

you know this is why you come here! where else can you get your daily fix of SW, crude jokes, awesomely awesome stats/graphs, and extreme sarcasm all in one?

by Coz_Bulls_Fan on May 21, 2010 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I often find myself saying out loud

“Oh nerds!” in a very affectionate tone. It’s great.

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 21, 2010 6:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I read that as NERDS!!!

as screamed by Ogre

I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield

by stacie7 on May 21, 2010 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

heh, so

did anybody notice the Google home page today?

by VerStig on May 21, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

A friend of mine works at google and tipped me off

But it wasn’t up when I first checked. Thanks, google, I wasn’t working today anyway

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 21, 2010 11:22 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

at first i was just impressed with the graphic

and then a second later….i realized it was functional…..

by puppetmasterp on May 21, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

my inner gamer-otaku

shrieked with joy when that loaded.

by ahnfire on May 21, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

ask him about

scoring chances differentiated by game situation. The Sharks were down for most of the game; we would expect a team that is down by one or more goals to press harder in the offensive zone, which is why I’m not too worried about the Corsi differences from Game 2. (Game 1, I definitely agree that Niemi stood on his head. But he only faced 27 shots in Game 2!)

by gmh on May 20, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

great point

and great explanation for why these statistics can be very misleading.

I think i’ll give up though- I was very complimentary about what they did and offered what i thought was a reasonable critique, and I sense they got a bit offended.

To a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!

by cliffkoroll on May 20, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, shit

if I cared enough, I would join and make my points, but I don’t think non-Hawks fans will really put in all the work it takes to understand every facet of this team’s performances, so why bother?

by gmh on May 20, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

That’s strange to me. After watching the Wings the last couple seasons, I’m slightly less than totally obsessed about what made that team tick like it did. There was never a point that I thought they would lose a single game if they could only play long enough (fortunately for the Pens, Game 7 ended before the Wings completed their inevitable comeback).

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are things other than nails in this world?

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think any "hate"

for the eye test stems from its application by someone who is not only blind but also not so bright. Eg: “I haven’t really seen many games, but it seemed to me that Huet made some great saves.”

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by 334Rules on May 20, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Evidence

that it does stem from the Great Goalie Debates: both of us used the same basic example while posting nearly simultaneously.

teaching respect for the Indian, one Red Wing fan at a time.

by 334Rules on May 20, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

just like with numbers

you can use eyes to prove anything

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

please don't "crunch" my eyes

i really think i’m going to need them.
(although i do have my hands over them a good part of the time the games are on.

"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie

by nextgame on May 20, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually,

Toews would have killed them by now.

teaching respect for the Indian, one Red Wing fan at a time.

by 334Rules on May 20, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure "Jigsaw" would help

It could be a team bonding activity

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 12:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Actually,

Dale Tallon would have never signed them.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on May 20, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Dale

there was an article in the Suntimes yesterday about how touched he was that all the Hawks congratulated and thanked him. It also mentioned that they still talk to and keep in touch with him, often via text. So he’s not dead to the players, which made me love them even more.

Also, nice work, gmh!!

by Katherine215 on May 20, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Random Dale Tallon memory

The Wee Knee game…

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

The players loved him

Here’s a link to an article about the team going to his dad’s funeral.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/article/2008-12-12/heartwarmer-blackhawks-attend-gms-dads-funeral-day

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on May 20, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

The next Rod Gilbert

One of my heroes as a kid, came back from serious back injury.

I had resigned myself to the idea that Bolland would not be fully operational until next year.

He probably went through hell to get here.

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gilbert hit a coin on the ice that some dickwad fan pitched on the ice

I still have a lot of hope that his offensive flair back

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 20, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey krome, I figured you would be familiar with the story

That is why I get so upset when people throw shit on the ice. So uncool.

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gilbert was an example of a kid that played D almost all of youth hockey & then switched to F late

I remember getting the book he wrote with Brad Park for that very reason (for some encouragement as I tried to navigate the late shift from D to F)

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 20, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

throw sopel in there too

im sure players get pissed that hes always blocking thier shots

when i stumble upon a choice i have to make, i think to myself, "which choice will make the better story down the road?"

by clarkecarpenter on May 20, 2010 11:53 AM CDT reply actions  

And again I learn something from this fabulous place!

I had never heard of sprats (had long forgotten all the words to the poem), only Jack Sprat (who of course could eat no fat). So off to wiki I flew, where I learnt: A sprat, or Sprattus sprattus balticus, is a herring-like, marine fish in the family Clupeidae.

And while I’m not a big fan of herring, I do now have taste for fried smelt!

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by 334Rules on May 20, 2010 12:19 PM CDT reply actions  

I used to go smelting at Montrose Harbor...

Those were the days.

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mmmmmm ... smelt

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 20, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've heard it's not nearly the same as it was 30 years ago...

Last time I went, I pulled a 200 pound drunk out of the lake… he was going down for the last time. He looked like Leo Dicaprio in Titanic.

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Smiling Fish

in the lower level of Waterfront (both now gone, of course) , used to be my favorite place for fried smelt.

teaching respect for the Indian, one Red Wing fan at a time.

by 334Rules on May 20, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

i had some great smelt once

at Miller’s Pub at 134 S Wabash. i saw Bill Murray there, too, that night, which was strangely the night that KU destroyed UNC in the final four.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Miller's Pub is great

Although, never had smelt there. Often stop there before CSO concerts then Russian Tea Time for dessert afterwards. I’m fairly certain a smelt has never made its way into RTT.

by Badgerdano on May 20, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mmm, yes

The Miller’s Pub → CSO ritual is one I’m familiar with. Yum.

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe not under the name “smelt,” but the Russians like their little fish as much as anyone. that’s a great idea: miller’s CSO, RTT. i’ll have to try that in my slightly more employed life

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why the address?

sounds like a paid advertisement.

I walk past Miller’s Pub every day, but I haven’t been insde for almost 30 years. It was one of the few places a thirsty teenager could get an adult beverage with lunch back then.

Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!

by cliffkoroll on May 20, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

there might be more than one Miller's Pub in the city

or similarly named places? Because I don’t know that I’ve seen that one, but I’ve got a sign in my head.

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

does it ever give you headaches?

by K_Dog on May 20, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

like you wouldn't believe

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's the reason

miller’s pub, not exactly a unique name

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe that is the one I'm thinking of though

since I must have walked past that one about eight hundred times since I was at class down there all the time.

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

This one?

This is the one I’ve been to, and it’s the only one I know (I don’t know Chicago restaurants too well, though):

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

I was always at Jackson/State for classes, I think I just associated the sign with school and decided it was near DePaul’s Lincoln Park campus instead.

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

That sign reminds me of the time I saw Bill Murray…

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rocky's, next to Navy Pier

back in the day

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on May 20, 2010 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah!

Completely forgot about Rocky’s. A great fish shack. We used to pull up in the boat and get a couple bags of fried shrimp.

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by 334Rules on May 20, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Committed to the road mojo

hawks will stay at a hotel during the day tomorrow…first time doing that home in 2 years i believe (from Jesse Rogers Twitter)

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 12:21 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Coolness.

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

"They brought their fucking toys with them!"

although after seeing the Sharp/Brouwer pic recently posted, I’m almost afraid to know what toys

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 20, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

That's an unfortunate use of "fucking" in your subject line

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 12:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I do believe it is the correct Rg Dunlop quote though

It’s been a while since I’ve viewed Slapshot.

But in sailing down this particular gutter, I suppose the great Hanson Borthers line would have to be changed to “we’re oiling the knuckles, coach”

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 20, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think its right, just watched slapshot the other day

Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on May 20, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Er...

Quote: “They brought their fuckin’ TOYS with ’em!”

And it was “Slot” cars, (not “HO” either) not “Trains”

“Get me a grape or an orange none of that stinkin Rootbeer!”

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really? You can't do anything with slot?

I’m disappointed

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 2:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I was actually planning to elaborately tie "slot cars" with the "limo girls"

but ran out of motivation while I sat in the penalty box over the failed Slapshot recollection

I feel shame

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 20, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

back to the box with you

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

And thus I have to feel more shame?

I don’t want to make a habit out of that

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 20, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I may be going to hell...

But that was my point. Hence the quotation marks.

Since I’m going to hell anyways, I suppose I could mention that Krome’s train analogy works better since there are 3 Hansens…

Now that I’m entering the well of souls, I could suggest that the slot cars could be converted to stretch limos…

(Now picturing Versteeg, Kane, and Madden racing stretch limos on the hotel bed… god help me!)

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

See

I’ve got something brewing with the slot ending up stretched but I think my own brain is palminoing me.

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aw man

I just missed the fuckin toys party

They brought their fuckin' TOYS with 'em!

by ZootSuitZombie on May 20, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

check out Pure Passion Parties

they can have just such a party in your very own home

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 20, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

SCH Gold

Pure fucking genius.

"But I like to have fun!" - Meatball

by nush on May 20, 2010 12:28 PM CDT reply actions  

GMH

i’m lovin’ everything ur writing!! keep it up!!
GO HAWKS!!

putting on the foils! every game! ya want some!?

by hockeylo9 on May 20, 2010 12:33 PM CDT reply actions  

What's Bolland gonna do for an encore?

Anally rape my grandmother while simultaneously pouring sugar in my gas tank?

I'm not superstitious. I'm just a little stitious.

by AirTrafficAJ on May 20, 2010 12:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Only if you're wearing a Thornton jersey

you ought to be safe.

Joe should be getting grandma’s locks checked.

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 20, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

(Clerks quote)

I'm not superstitious. I'm just a little stitious.

by AirTrafficAJ on May 21, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

If only I knew Photoshop or Gimp well

Id start doing Banksy style rats on Hawk highlight photos

Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on May 20, 2010 1:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Inspired

Seriously, good show with recent posts.

And I’ll smoke some of that cannoli, if you’ll pass on the location. But my guess is the shrooms are what inspired this. Take it from a longtime head . . .

It looks like they've exorcized their dragons.

by Gus Savage on May 20, 2010 1:21 PM CDT reply actions  

oh, rec'd for sure

thanks for not capitalizing “cups,” by the way, just to be on the safe side.

by gmh on May 20, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the inspiration!

Couldn’t have done it without you to inspire me. It’s quickly becoming clear that adding you to the staff was a wonderful idea. Keep up the great work!

"Everything I know about life, I learned from my father watching the Blackhawks. It can all be summed up in 2 words, 2 simple words that ring over and over in my memory. Detroit Sucks!!! Detroit Sucks!!!"

by DetroitSucks! on May 20, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Second City Hockey

it’s not a hobby, it’s not an excuse to dick around at work, it’s a calling!

I got a block of wood to carry around, it soothes my superstitious soul. If the knocking doesn't help I can just beat myself over the head with it until I don't care anymore.
it's entirely possible this isn't sarcasm

by boldmatter on May 20, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

it wasn't until this post

that it really clicked: yeah, gmh is going to make the original three completely useless in about a week and a half

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Future tense

fail.

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by 334Rules on May 20, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sam still has the printer for the CI

So as long as that’s still operational, she might keep him around

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 2:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

the CI are not this website the same thing

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had noticed this!

But was implying that she could take over there, too, with the proper capital.

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 3:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

that sentence

looks like you scrambled all the words up and posted them in the wrong order.

by Katherine215 on May 20, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's emulating

Burroughs with a literary cut-up.

teaching respect for the Indian, one Red Wing fan at a time.

by 334Rules on May 20, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

channelling yoda you are?

Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!

by cliffkoroll on May 20, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anybody see this?

"We haven’t played these guys since January. We don’t have that hatred for them and we should," San Jose’s Scott Nichol(notes) said.

Go ahead and hate us, ask Vancouveur how that worked out for them.

by Hodor on May 20, 2010 1:55 PM CDT reply actions  

gmh, this is awesome

and I don’t want to take away from your chemically-infused, cannoli-inspired literary work of genius. But I’m still not ready to anoint Bolland The Rat King, and write Thornton off completely. Yes, Bolland has played much better as the playoffs have gone on, and yes Thornton’s +/- is funny-like, but the reality is a few slightly better placed shots or a few slightly less magnificent Niemi saves means all those chances that Thornton is creating are goals.

Yes, I know, ifs and buts are tits and nuts, but we’ve still got a long way to go until this series is over. A few bad slashes amidst a few missed chances means nothing until we get 2 more wins.

Until then, Bolland’s line has been lucky but good, and nothing more, in my eyes.

Picture bloodbaths and elevator shafts
Like these murderous rhymes tight from genuine craft

by chrome on May 20, 2010 1:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Its the only way I know.

Picture bloodbaths and elevator shafts
Like these murderous rhymes tight from genuine craft

by chrome on May 20, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's genetic

If it weren’t for Stacie I’d have been off that ledge with ol’ what’s his name that jumped after, what, game 3 vs. Vancouver?

by Badgerdano on May 20, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

weren't that ccm?

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

i don’t remember, but that sounds likely.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

it was csm

I forgot how crazy that thread was.

He hasn’t been back since that day.

by Katherine215 on May 20, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, yes. Now I remember. Twas a crazy, crazy day. If I remember correctly, this was one of the things that lead to the Great Scolding of 2010.

by K_Dog on May 20, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

makes more sense why the Great Scolding took me by surprise.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL The great scolding...

Hey, I still think that guy was over the top.

by Badgerdano on May 20, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

wait, what was the Great Scolding? i thought you were talking about Sam Fels no longer requesting but telling us to be nice to each other.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes. That's what I thought he meant.

But the CSM thread was ONE of the things that may have precipitated that scolding.

by Badgerdano on May 20, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

That may have been the one that prompted my generalized apology

although the guy I was joisting with was a total douchenozzle (it was a pure troll – not a regular)

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 20, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep. That’s what I meant.

by K_Dog on May 20, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great Scolding?

Did you just coin this term?

I think it’s got legs.

Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!

by cliffkoroll on May 20, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

why I do believe I did!

by K_Dog on May 20, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Moments in History that shook the world

Tunguska blast 1908
San Francisco Earthquake 1906
Chile 1960
The Great Scolding 2010

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 21, 2010 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

The coolest of those

The Tunguska blast of 1908 by a long shot

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 21, 2010 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

well, yeah ... it happened in Siberia

it was probably downright chilly

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 21, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

the world is lucky it happened in Siberia, though if it had happened elsewhere, maybe the history of nuclear weapons would be different?

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 21, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was after Van's game 5 win at the UC

His reasoning was that we couldn’t win 3 in a row in Vancouver, and then game 7 would be a coin flip with Vancouver winning (due to momentum). I usually just kinda laugh when people get all doomsday, but that post really pissed me off at the time.

"I have only space enough to add: against the assault of desperate pandas nothing can stand."
-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)

by HungryHungryPanda on May 20, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, I realize that

I’ve been paying attention to the CnB reviews of scoring chances in each of the first two games, and it’s obvious that Bolland’s line is getting way outchanced in terms of creating dangerous opportunities. Rather than writing off the opponent, I’m trying to pay tribute to Bolland’s role as a shit stirrer over the last two series — the Sedins also massively outchanced Bolland’s line, but part of me really enjoys the teetering aspect of the match-ups.

I’m sure Q recognizes the risk of letting Bolland get pinned in his own zone once in awhile, and the best checking lines are inevitably going to get scored on, because there are talented motherfuckers in this league. But until the Sedins and the Thorntons can stop taking stupid penalties (which I’m sure doesn’t get factored into the CnB numbers) and start putting the puck in the back of our net, we’ve still got the advantage.

by gmh on May 20, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK, their line - 3 All Star/Gold Medal guys : our line - 3 3rd liners

Of course they’re going to get outchanced over time!

The whole purpose is to get a group out against their hotsohots to get them to underperform – plain and simple. You don’t expect much positive contribution from those 3rd line guys, as long as they hold the hotshots down as far below normal production as possible

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 20, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like we can't wait for the offseason to figure this out

I’ll try to do something on our checking line vs. the Sedins’ / HTML after this series.

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll do it for you right now

Corsi/Fenwick/EV scoring chances: SPANKED.

Stupid penalties taken: in our favor.

Is there a measure for underperformance that doesn’t easily translate into “unlucky”?

by gmh on May 20, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

since it’s two series in a row, maybe it’s not so much “unlucky” as it is “heads not in the game”

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

tell that to the numbers guys

although I don’t know how they would analyze the phenomenon of star players taking undisciplined penalties.

by gmh on May 20, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

you can use numbers to prove anything

Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on May 20, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of that

I heard the most bullshit sports stat Ive ever heard on sportcenter. “Tampa Bay is 0-10 when hosting The Mariners on May 14”

Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on May 20, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

that is a work of unflagging genius.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes. Well, maybe.

I’ve got some ideas. Though, as meeshak is saying, I’m looking more at the Vancouver series (5 games of 3rd line vs Sedins) for now, since we only have 2 games for San Jose so far. Hopefully the picture is clearer after the series.

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Preliminaries

Huh. Looks like I’m closer to proving your guys’ point. Or, maybe not. For some reason, the numbers looked better when our top line faced the Sedins (Game 1, and half of Game 5), but with worse results (both losses). Though, the causality may work the other way (they were in there because we wanted to score, badly).

Also, San Jose likes to shoot a lot, but their top line can’t even hit the net half the time.

The most curious result I found though was that yeah, sure, BolLaddSteeg got “killed” on Corsi against the Sharks, supposedly. But, HTML was negative Corsi in both games, too! So there’s two things I’m guessing may be at work here:

  1. DDN+Buff must be killing them even in the short time they’re matched up against them
  2. By putting our 3rd line against their 1st, it really frees up our top line to do fun things elsewhere

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ugh, you're right

Need to suck it up and make my play-by-play parser. The picture has to look very different at down 1, even, and up 1.

But I find it interesting that two lines facing each other for more than 2/3 of their TOI both end up negative.

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

In spite of the danger

We must push into this great unknown. For we may uncover the mystery of the Great Pavelsteeg.

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

k so, I just found the secret formula to parsing the play-by-play data… it turns out it was on one of Verbeautiful Mind’s window panes!

Question, before I run off and do my mutual and cross-mutual Corsi numbers… does it include shorthanded chances or not? Vic’s script seems to include them, but I think I’ve seen somewhere that it doesn’t.

I’m excited though. The possibilities just expanded fifty-fold.

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok

but I’m just gonna sit here.

Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!

by cliffkoroll on May 20, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

great enterprises

need their casual observers? That way when we die you can tell everyone it was for a noble cause and not because of some act of extreme stupidity.

by gmh on May 20, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck- that was quick

I realize this comment was more than an hour after the one that preceded it, but in my world it was like two seconds.

Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!

by cliffkoroll on May 20, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the writing off Thornton was more in terms of what

I’ve seen online all across the Blackhawks blogosphere, and not from your masterpiece above.

Sorry to bring the place down, but this city seems to think we’ve got the series won, and its making me noivous.

Picture bloodbaths and elevator shafts
Like these murderous rhymes tight from genuine craft

by chrome on May 20, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

As long as the players know better...

And I think they know better

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think they do too

but, like I said, until we get our fourth win, this is how I am. And if we get that 4th win, I will then move on to painting the Fliers as a sleeping giant.

Picture bloodbaths and elevator shafts
Like these murderous rhymes tight from genuine craft

by chrome on May 20, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

the flyers definitely

are just that. i see them winning two of the first four easily, whichever team comes out of the west, because they’ll probably split the first two, and then whoever has to play in philadelphia is going to hear a crowd the likes of which they’ve never heard before.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty nervous

about the team coming back home, although they seem to be cautious in their approach and aware of the need to simplify their game. I hope they can execute; they can’t afford to give the Sharks any hope. They’ll run with that shit.

by gmh on May 20, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

not at all

but we’ve got a great start. the test is no longer the hawks’ to pass, but the san jose sharks’ testicular fortitude is on the grill.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, as you very well know how this city works

We’re up 2-0…YEAH! IT’S OVER DUDE! SWEEEEEEEEEEP!

We’re down 0-2…DUUUUDE WHAT THE FUCK MAN!? WE SUCK! THIS SEASON’S OVER!

"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon

by HawkVision on May 20, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

odds are - from the fan perspective - those are both going to work out to be sort of true

but it can be very embarrassing for a team up 2 – 0 to start to think it (I hope Q isn’t letting that idea take root)

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 20, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is the West, sir

When the legend become fact, print the legend.

by Scott13 on May 20, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've heard on the radio and everywhere

that there is no point to playing because we have it locked up. Truly, I never buy into that shit. I’m with you that it’s not over till were shaking hands at the end. Do I feel “better” about the outcome? Fuck yeah, and when people come up to me and say so we are going to go to “that special place” that I still can’t mention. Maybe its superstition or maybe it’s just nerves, excitement.

Either way, lets hope we can take control of the "home (road game) tomorrow. Since they will be hanging out at the hotel all day.

by Jrs23 on May 20, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

This has been the longest fucking 2 days

needs to be friday

Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on May 20, 2010 2:02 PM CDT reply actions  

So work can drag even longer...

but at least we will have the game to look forward too

by Jrs23 on May 20, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got tomorrow off

and now I’m just worried that not having work to distract me is just going to make the day drag on FOREVER.

I got a block of wood to carry around, it soothes my superstitious soul. If the knocking doesn't help I can just beat myself over the head with it until I don't care anymore.
it's entirely possible this isn't sarcasm

by boldmatter on May 20, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather watch movies

and play GOWIII all day then sit at my desk, though would still need my hourly fix of SCH and smokes

by Jrs23 on May 20, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rats!

Such a fun read – :) And extra props for the Dale Hunter reference. He was still instigating even as he was being carried out of bars in old Quebec back in the day…

by MouthGuard on May 20, 2010 2:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Bolland is a piece of shit...

…and we mean that in the best possible way.

Signed,
The San Jose Sharks
(who wish that piece of shit played on our team.)

XTC • Stone Roses • The Chills • The Chameleons • The Delgados • GBV • Menomena • Cloud Cult • The National • Neil Young • The Pernice Brothers • Straitjacket Fits... GREAT MUSIC THAT SHOULD BE HEARD...

by ZenPop on May 20, 2010 3:26 PM CDT reply actions  

absolutely.

XTC • Stone Roses • The Chills • The Chameleons • The Delgados • GBV • Menomena • Cloud Cult • The National • Neil Young • The Pernice Brothers • Straitjacket Fits... GREAT MUSIC THAT SHOULD BE HEARD...

by ZenPop on May 20, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

One of my son's great moments as a player

was early in the season when he made AAA and a (new) teammate that he’d played against for years told him:

“when I used to play against you, I thought you were the biggest asshole in the world, but you’re really a great guy”

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 20, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your son...

…clearly is a hockey player.

That’s the ultimate compliment.

XTC • Stone Roses • The Chills • The Chameleons • The Delgados • GBV • Menomena • Cloud Cult • The National • Neil Young • The Pernice Brothers • Straitjacket Fits... GREAT MUSIC THAT SHOULD BE HEARD...

by ZenPop on May 20, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh... and by the way...

very literate post.

…anytime you can use Banksy to great affect it speaks well of you.

XTC • Stone Roses • The Chills • The Chameleons • The Delgados • GBV • Menomena • Cloud Cult • The National • Neil Young • The Pernice Brothers • Straitjacket Fits... GREAT MUSIC THAT SHOULD BE HEARD...

by ZenPop on May 20, 2010 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

can't get that shit at FtF

Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!

by cliffkoroll on May 20, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ahem...

…I don’t think that’s true. We’re a fairly literate bunch, as well…

Here’s a couple of threads you may have missed at FtF…

• Dostoyevsky and the Importance of a Good Forecheck.

• Illiad on Ice: Homer Announcers and Their Place in the Game.

• Plato’s Sin Bin

• Sylvia Plath’s Guide to Bruin’s Hockey (a tragedy in 7 parts)

…and, of course…

• Nabokov’s Lolita

XTC • Stone Roses • The Chills • The Chameleons • The Delgados • GBV • Menomena • Cloud Cult • The National • Neil Young • The Pernice Brothers • Straitjacket Fits... GREAT MUSIC THAT SHOULD BE HEARD...

by ZenPop on May 21, 2010 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

This pic is worth a thousand words

Our very own A-Team doing some…thing.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 3:34 PM CDT reply actions  

the fan in the Badgers hat

is thoroughly enjoying that embrace.

by K_Dog on May 20, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

looks kind of like a bespectacled Bolland

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wish I could see it

I can’t see that (and most of the pictures) here in the office.

by Badgerdano on May 20, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, not even them... :-(

I usually go home in the evening and look at all that pictures I missed during the day. The strange thing is that it’s not consistent. Some pics show up but most don’t.

by Badgerdano on May 20, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

the woman at dunc's elbow

looks like she’s holding a half an orange.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe with a slice of avocado on top

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

or maybe an oddly ripened ugli fruit

by K_Dog on May 20, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah, yes, it’s good to see a complete humor fail on my part come back

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually, I thought it was hilarious at the time, but I didn’t comment immediately for fear of stating the obvious. Little did I know that The Membership is not as well educated in its knowledge of semi-exotic citrus as I expected.

by K_Dog on May 20, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

i was a little surprised by that, too. i guess the whole lemon party thing really traumatized the whole blog. which is understandable.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

ARRRRGH!

Not the “Fete of Citrus” again!

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on May 20, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

we’re on a totally different topic

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

The kid in the upper left corner looks amazed...

Like he’s never seen 2 grown men embrace each other in excitement before.

"Everything I know about life, I learned from my father watching the Blackhawks. It can all be summed up in 2 words, 2 simple words that ring over and over in my memory. Detroit Sucks!!! Detroit Sucks!!!"

by DetroitSucks! on May 20, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

The one wearing a badger hat?

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah I might have to do a video for The Hawks A-Team

Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on May 20, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gee, who would be Mr. T?

infinite bonus points if you can make it work with someone other than Buf in that role

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 20, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

that would be hard

Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on May 20, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

who’s face man?

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sharp

Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on May 20, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Q as Hannibal Smith

Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on May 20, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im struggling with Howling Mad Murdock

Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on May 20, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Burr.

No doubt.

teaching respect for the Indian, one Red Wing fan at a time.

by 334Rules on May 20, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh I can see that, thats kind of what I thought

when I looked up the actual opening sequence

Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on May 20, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

not Versteeg?

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I found a vid of burish in a hat, he almost looks like Howling Mad

Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on May 20, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL - I pity the fool...

"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."

by Byfuglie33 on May 20, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hawks A-Team video complete

its fucking stupid, but its in fanshots if you want to see it

Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on May 20, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

entertaining as always BigC

I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield

by stacie7 on May 20, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

This picture makes me think

of this caption

"I have only space enough to add: against the assault of desperate pandas nothing can stand."
-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)

by HungryHungryPanda on May 20, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

Those comments about Seabrook and Versteeg are kind of prophetic, aren’t they?

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like pissed off Q in the lower right corner

Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on May 20, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

my favorite part

the bottom window in the middle. Oh! The top left is great too. Nice work CNS!!

by Katherine215 on May 20, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's the little yay! that does it for me

pretty sure Verbeauty would hate that hair, too, and it brings me joy.

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

!!!!!!!!

CAN I REC THIS ELEVENTY BILLION TIMES?!?!?!?!

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

instarec'd

but only one for you :P

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

and here we've all thought it to be 42

maybe the fluctuating exchange rate is to blame

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 20, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

always cracked me up when Wellwood skated out

But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."

(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)

by chiblackhawks on May 20, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

iit was 42

Canadian

teaching respect for the Indian, one Red Wing fan at a time.

by 334Rules on May 20, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

you

are most certainly, a mathlete

by K_Dog on May 20, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

poor poor steeger

even his mother is laughing at him now.

But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."

(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)

by chiblackhawks on May 20, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

The stuff in the window is absolute brilliance

I can get enough of how much attention to detail you put in to these. These definitely deserve a FanPost, if not a gallery of your excellence.

by VerStig on May 20, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

the gallery belongs in the SCH wiki

just like the literary samplings of our many authors!

by blackhawkeyes on May 20, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes it does belong there

Or at least, until that happens, it would be cool if he created a gallery similar to VerStig’s (which is rather awesome, I might add). He has a link to it in his profile. lol, man that Kopecky one still kills me (the stick figure slipping on the ice).

by K_Dog on May 20, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

the window is a stroke of genius

i had to stare for a bit to get all of it. masterful.

by puppetmasterp on May 20, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bolland = rat but Versteeg = titmouse!

This is perfection – thank you! Doesn’t he have an endorsement with Oakley goggles?

by MouthGuard on May 20, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh man, I can't breath, f'ing brilliant...

AGAIN CNS. Thank you so very much! Took me like five minutes just to type this. Awesome stuff.

by vznutz81 on May 20, 2010 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, thanks everyone!

I know many of you pointed out your favorite things. For me, I chuckled when I added him playing hangman with one letter, “Q” and apparently still lost. And that he spelled dumb as “dum.” Thank again for the recs, I’m gonna go cash them in for some SCH dollars. Wait, what?

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on May 21, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cool article on Duncan Keith from Puck Daddy...

Link

"Everything I know about life, I learned from my father watching the Blackhawks. It can all be summed up in 2 words, 2 simple words that ring over and over in my memory. Detroit Sucks!!! Detroit Sucks!!!"

by DetroitSucks! on May 20, 2010 5:10 PM CDT reply actions  

I just got home from the mall and I need to get this off my chest...

Scene: Me walking through the store, where 2 ladies are looking through a rack of Hawks jerseys. Lady #1 is legitimately considering the purchase of a $150 Reebok jersey.

Lady #1 – I think I like the red better than the white. (picks up a Kane jersey)
Lady #2 – hmmm. Kane, #88
Lady #1 – I don’t know who that is.

Are you fucking kidding me? you’re thinking about buying a jersey and you don’t know who Kane is? And it wasn’t even an attempt to be funny or sarcastic…she really had no idea. I’m not trying to be a fan snob here, because I know lots of people (myself included) began liking the Hawks with minimal hockey knowledge, but really? I’m glad she walked away without the purchase

by blackhawkeyes on May 20, 2010 5:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Usually bandwagon fans are, you know,

fans.

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

keep telling yourself this

she was buying it for her son/daughter who is really a fan and knows every player on the team

I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield

by stacie7 on May 20, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

that must have been it...

I’m just going to assume that for every person that buys a jersey, the salary cap will increase by $5, and having as many people as possible buy gear will make it possible for us to avoid the capocalypse and resign Johnnson.

by blackhawkeyes on May 20, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

yes. revive and then resign him!

I chose him as an obvious sarcastic response, because it’s easier than trying to sort out my real feelings on who should stay or go at the end of the season. I don’t have a lot of pull, but I know some people here have Bowman’s # on speed-dial…

by blackhawkeyes on May 20, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't understand why it bothers you

There is a fan post on the band wagon fan topic. Why do you care if people buy Hawks stuff and they don’t know who the players are? Are you offended that someone is supporting your team without as much knowledge as you have? Not trying to get into it with you or anyone else but I just don’t get the hate towards the band wagon.

by Badgerdano on May 20, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think plenty of people would call me a bandwagon fan

This is my first full season following the Hawks, but learning the names of everyone was one of the first things I did. Especially that Kane guy.

(Learning to pronounce Hammer’s name, still can’t spell it, took a while.)

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you learn their hat size?

Because if you don’t know their helmet size you’re not a REAL fan. (where is that sarcasm button?)

by Badgerdano on May 20, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's a trick question!

even Kopecky doesn’t know his own hat size.

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

He might have,

but he lost his hat when he fell on the way into the Press Box.

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on May 20, 2010 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok yeah,

way to take a post and blow it way out of proportion.

by blackhawkeyes on May 20, 2010 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is SCH

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by meeshak on May 20, 2010 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not so sure SCH exists any more

because I was on here at 1:30 this morning and there were no conversations happening! there’s got to be some alternate reality here! You know, like the kind where Spock can actually fall in love.

by blackhawkeyes on May 20, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

was there a goatee?

because while that’s usually a sign, it IS the playoffs.

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

a goatee?

I’m confused. or an idiot.

by blackhawkeyes on May 20, 2010 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

alternate reality Spock?

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by meeshak on May 20, 2010 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Know your Spock

Watch it with the jinxing!
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by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was thinking about the new movie version

and then I wondered if I somehow misremembered Zach Quinto’s lack of facial hair. But yes, he had a goatee and mutton chops as a homage to the captain.

by blackhawkeyes on May 20, 2010 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I figured you were

and was actually originally going to point out how smoking hot Zoe Saldana is, but went for the bizzaro!Spock joke instead. Or I guess it’s Mirrorverse Spock. Whatever.

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

She is pretty smoking

and what great acting range, from Center Stage to Pirates and Star Trek

by blackhawkeyes on May 20, 2010 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

can't forget Avatar!

the story she was working with in that…pure art.

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the most underrated part

of that movie was the actor’s performances. They spent almost all of that movie in weird performance capture suits on dull gray sets and had to imagine a majority of the things they were supposed to be seeing or flying on. Great short video on the process the actors went through here. It’s amazing technology and a lot of work for the actors.

by Katherine215 on May 20, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Compare the actors’ almost-totally-green-screen performances in Avatar to the equally almost-totally-green-screen performances in any of the new Star Wars movies. It killed Star Wars, because there was no emotion there. Avatar (for all its many faults, and I acknowledge that there were many) never killed the humanity of its characters in favor of green-screening. I do respect that; Cameron did an amazing job of pulling performances out of his people.

by spokeinthebandwagon on May 20, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't imagine

being an actor and having to visualize Pandora (that was the planet, right?). The technology Cameron used still amazes me.

by Katherine215 on May 20, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

LMAO...

I’m an old original Trekkie, hence my moniker. There were a couple bad Spocks I believe and one episode where everyone had an evil twin in some twisted universe.

by CaptDirk on May 21, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

which isn’t to say I’m not okay with them spending their money on our team, I’m just confused that someone who doesn’t know Patrick Kane’s name would be ready to drop $150 on a jersey.

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

but $150. That’s the part that’s most boggling to me. A t-shirt? go for it! but that’s a lot of money.

Well, it’s a lot of money to me, but maybe not to her, I don’t know.

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like money. I like it even better when it’s in my bank account.

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bah! Humbug!

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by meeshak on May 20, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

it makes those “SO WE’RE GOING TO THE PLAYOFF GAME” moments possible!

but I’m not going to deny maybe smelling the money as a whole group of us pile in our cash to pay for dinner somewhere.

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m with you on this. It couldn’t matter to me one iota if someone wearing a Kane jersey knows who Kane is. The only thing that matters to me is the Hawks; I’ll judge whether or not you’re a fan worth talking to on a case-by-case basis.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not offended by someone wanting to support the team at all!

I just assumed a more logical progression….such as: watch game on tv>say “wow! that Kane/Toews/Sharp/Hossa guy is really fun to watch!”>watch at least 1 more game>buy a jersey WHEN YOU AT LEAST KNOW WHO THE PLAYER IS! If you have the money to buy something like that on a whim, go for it!

In no way did I say I was a better person or fan than that lady. In facet, I didn’t even mention the term bandwagon, because I think even bandwagon fans are ok, and most of them can name a least 3 players on the team. I’m just really surprised they don’t know Kane. The Trib and the Daild Herald have basically been having 2-3 pages of Hawks news every day in the sports, and their names are all over town. It just seems like the first thing people know about the Hawks is Kane and Toews.

by blackhawkeyes on May 20, 2010 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is an absurd story, and with a little tweaking, I can see a sketch in the style of Monty Python developing from it.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe she didn't buy it

b/c she felt like an idiot dropping that much on a sweater w/o knowing the name on the back.

Now if she had bought it for herself, then I’d have to judge. And I haven’t even been following the ’Hawks much since this season.

"But I like to have fun!" - Meatball

by nush on May 20, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Like I said, I'm fine with new arrivals to the Hawks,

it was just very weird. I know she could have been buying it for someone else,or maybe you’re right. I just think that’s a lot of money, which is why I still don’t own a sweater

by blackhawkeyes on May 20, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

sure, the more the merrier

BUT this chick’s situation aside, I can’t comprehend the initial decision to support/like a team (enough to buy gear, mind you) without knowing the name of at least a key player or two.

"But I like to have fun!" - Meatball

by nush on May 20, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

How old

was his woman (Lady #1)?

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

he could've had himself a sugar mama?

“c’mere baby, let me educate you…”

"But I like to have fun!" - Meatball

by nush on May 20, 2010 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

that’s what i figured from your initial post, but it seemed like everyone was acting like she was 20. certainly wouldn’t be the first time that someone has bought an expensive sports jersey because it’s both in fashion and also looks really good.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

locker room bulletin board fodder?

from @adamjahns:

Joe Thornton on Dave Bolland: ‘I don’t find him very irritating…I find him very easy to play against, to be honest with you.’

/popcorn.gif

by gmh on May 20, 2010 5:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe he’s right and the scoring chances numbers are telling the complete story.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’M FINE! TOTALLY FINE, LOOK AT HOW FINE I AM. BOLLAND WHO?

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thornton’s -10 in the playoffs would indicate that HE is the easy one to play against.

2010 PLAYOFFS: CONFERENCE FINALS
Calling on the Captain:
Can he lead the 'Hawks to their first Finals appearance since 1992?

by hawks61 on May 20, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

but he's a gold medal olympian

on a line with gold medal olympians – doesn’t that just make him great by association?

I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield

by stacie7 on May 20, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Forgot. Not hard considering how little all three of them contributed to Canada’s overall success. Boyle was very good and Marleau to a certain extent but Heatley and Thornton were no shows – just like this series.

2010 PLAYOFFS: CONFERENCE FINALS
Calling on the Captain:
Can he lead the 'Hawks to their first Finals appearance since 1992?

by hawks61 on May 20, 2010 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don’t you worry, Mikey.

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by meeshak on May 20, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

gmh, you are brilliant.

Not only brilliant, but Awesomely awesome as well.

/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.

by burpchelischili on May 20, 2010 6:01 PM CDT reply actions  

She is

and spectacularly spectacular.

by Badgerdano on May 20, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

And
Tremendously Tremendous

"They've done studies you know, 60% of the time it works Everytime."

by anActiveStick on May 20, 2010 8:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

great job gmh

verminously verminous!

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on May 20, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Banksy means this post is A++

Anyone else watching Habs/Flyers? Because right now the Habs are finally playing like the series-stealing SOBs they are. It’s sort of refreshing, actually.

by spokeinthebandwagon on May 20, 2010 7:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Aw, look at him.

Look at Halak being awesome. It gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling when he pulls off saves like that

by spokeinthebandwagon on May 20, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not me. I have visions of that shit happening to the Hawks.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

proving the behind the net guys that they are quite possibly the second best team in the East

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

pucks sent toward goal

PHI 27 (18/9/4)
MTL 47 (28/9/10)

They’re outplaying Philly right now by quite a bit.

by gmh on May 20, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow. My eye test didn't give the shot differential that much credit.

Really didn’t expect that, but it’s food for thought. Is this the first time in the playoffs when MTL has significantly outshot the opposition? I think it might be.

by spokeinthebandwagon on May 20, 2010 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

at EV the shots are:

PHI 14—19 MTL, which is much closer, and yet all three MTL goals have come at EV. Go figure.

by gmh on May 20, 2010 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I blame all of the

Golly, this Leighton guy is SPECTACULAR! Press/video packages.

But I’m also resentful of the intermission package because I found Danny Brier attractive for a minute there.

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t that LaPierre?

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by meeshak on May 20, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw Brier

Lappy’s nose is pretty distinct. Unless you mean the Hab LaPierre.

Watch it with the jinxing!
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by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Flyers guy

is LaPerriere, not Lapierre.

by gmh on May 20, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

you'll notice that I call him Lappy

it’s a calculated choice on my part.

Me and French don’t get along real well, just ask KtG how I pronounced Vigneault on Sunday. (hint: I used all the letters)

Watch it with the jinxing!
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by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Vig-knee-alt?

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by meeshak on May 20, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

actually

I managed to switch some of the letters, so it was Vin-e-gault. Man, no wonder I got a blank look.

Watch it with the jinxing!
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by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m talking about л’габитант.

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by meeshak on May 20, 2010 8:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

is that french in russian?

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

you know it!

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's a article on nhl.com about Hossa an Heatley's scoring slumps

I liked this paragraph:

Just like Hossa, the 29-year-old Heatley has had trouble finishing his chances but has pitched in as a set-up guy with a team-leading 10 assists. But unlike Hossa, who has the luxury of being a second-line player on a team that’s winning, Heatley is a top-line skater who has been firing blanks for a team that needs to win four of its next five games to reach the Stanley Cup Final.

but I especially like this line:

Hossa, who has the luxury of being a second-line player

How great is it that we have Hossa as a second-line player?! Panda spoils us!

by blackhawkeyes on May 20, 2010 7:57 PM CDT reply actions  

and vice versa

Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!

by cliffkoroll on May 20, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

he’s been spoiled the last two seasons

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by meeshak on May 20, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holy shit, 0-4 MTL? Did not see that coming.

Holy ridiculous hockey, Batman! I don’t even know what’s going on anymore. I didn’t think this series would be as exciting as the West, but in its own way, it’s proving to be a heart-stopper. (Listen to that crowd, wow.)

by spokeinthebandwagon on May 20, 2010 8:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Pronger/Carle are -4

that’s more embarrassing than a shitstain on your gameday trousers.

by gmh on May 20, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

No kidding.

I can only hope the Hawks don’t come out this complacent after going up by 2. Because right now the Flyers’ best players are playing like its a hotel shinny game. No real effort, but a lot of real frustration.

by spokeinthebandwagon on May 20, 2010 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I hope not too. Maybe staying in the hotel is a good thing.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

as long as they lay off the mario kart

Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on May 20, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh no, I encourage the Mario Kart.

Keep doing what works, and obviously, that’s working for them so far.

by spokeinthebandwagon on May 20, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

if it brings out the killer instinct in Toews

I’m all for it.

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 20, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scottie Hartnell!!

"They've done studies you know, 60% of the time it works Everytime."

by anActiveStick on May 20, 2010 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Woo! Fight! Fight! Fight!

Nothing like a brawl to kick up the adrenaline.

by spokeinthebandwagon on May 20, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was a great sequence, this series has been boring as hell for me up til this point. I need some kind of hockey til fill the void between Hawks games and it seems like this series is going to get real nasty next game. Mike Richards destroyed Jaroslav Spacek for slashing Danny Briere, and then Hartnell giving Roman Hamrlik the business.

"They've done studies you know, 60% of the time it works Everytime."

by anActiveStick on May 20, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can anyone tell what the crowd is chanting? I can't understand them.

Whatever it is, they seem to be adamant. I just couldn’t hear them well enough over TV to tell what they were saying.

by spokeinthebandwagon on May 20, 2010 8:45 PM CDT reply actions  

I could never figure out their chants, since they were often in French (even though the crowd is about 50/50 from what I saw).

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 20, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

And it’s Quebec slang. Very different. But maybe you understand it?

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by meeshak on May 20, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

5-1 Habs, 25 seconds left

Stick a fork in it, this series is going 2-1.

by spokeinthebandwagon on May 20, 2010 8:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Habs just made it a series.

"They've done studies you know, 60% of the time it works Everytime."

by anActiveStick on May 20, 2010 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is something on The Smithsonian Channel

called “Panda Breeding Diary”…did someone leak a Hossa/Kop sex tape?

Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on May 20, 2010 10:38 PM CDT reply actions  

THE BEST

episode of not only “Itchy & Scratchy,” but “The Simpsons” as well…
“Krusty Gets Cancelled,” I believe. (Gabbo!)

XTC • Stone Roses • The Chills • The Chameleons • The Delgados • GBV • Menomena • Cloud Cult • The National • Neil Young • The Pernice Brothers • Straitjacket Fits... GREAT MUSIC THAT SHOULD BE HEARD...

by ZenPop on May 21, 2010 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

but that version cut off the classic Krusty bit...

“What the hell was that?!!!”

XTC • Stone Roses • The Chills • The Chameleons • The Delgados • GBV • Menomena • Cloud Cult • The National • Neil Young • The Pernice Brothers • Straitjacket Fits... GREAT MUSIC THAT SHOULD BE HEARD...

by ZenPop on May 21, 2010 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

that was an artist’s rendition of Thornton and Heatley

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by meeshak on May 21, 2010 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

who cares...

…as long as they find the damn net! (getting cranky after two losses… lol)

XTC • Stone Roses • The Chills • The Chameleons • The Delgados • GBV • Menomena • Cloud Cult • The National • Neil Young • The Pernice Brothers • Straitjacket Fits... GREAT MUSIC THAT SHOULD BE HEARD...

by ZenPop on May 21, 2010 1:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

here's to hoping the net stays lost

for you that is

I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield

by stacie7 on May 21, 2010 1:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

yay someone answered my prompt!

I wanted much more Itchy & Scratchy in the comments, so thank you!

by gmh on May 21, 2010 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I guess maybe it's just me...

but this bored me bigtime. I generally love your posts, gmh, but this felt like a calculated attempt to garner a certain “wow, how smart and different!” reaction. I know I’ll get burned at the stake for this comment, but I’m just being honest. And no, it didn’t go over my head, and I’ve seen the Banksy stuff, but it was just dripping with the desire to make a mark in my opinion. So much so that I think it missed.

by ProbertandErnie on May 21, 2010 1:28 AM CDT reply actions  

if you're fine with this comment

then this blog just radically changed. it appears it is now OK to critique the writing of the staff.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 21, 2010 1:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

how bad could it have been

it caused over 500 comments since it was posted

I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield

by stacie7 on May 21, 2010 1:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

number of comments

on this blog does not a great post make. didnt we have a BotD with like 250 comments wedged in 600 comments just on a Star Wars side thread? I liked the writing style, and I love cannoli like a fat guy loves…well, cannoli, so it was enjoyable reading, plus I think rats are kind of cool, dont ask me why

Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!

by BigCSouthside on May 21, 2010 1:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I guess we are a chatty bunch

who get off topic quite a bit. Maybe it helps for us to have a starting off point like this. Rats – who would have thunk it?

I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield

by stacie7 on May 21, 2010 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

at least he can write with clarity...

…much prefer his takes than samfels…

XTC • Stone Roses • The Chills • The Chameleons • The Delgados • GBV • Menomena • Cloud Cult • The National • Neil Young • The Pernice Brothers • Straitjacket Fits... GREAT MUSIC THAT SHOULD BE HEARD...

by ZenPop on May 21, 2010 2:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

she

"I have only space enough to add: against the assault of desperate pandas nothing can stand."
-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)

by HungryHungryPanda on May 21, 2010 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

I stand corrected...

…and humbled by such a stupid assumption.

Thanks.

XTC • Stone Roses • The Chills • The Chameleons • The Delgados • GBV • Menomena • Cloud Cult • The National • Neil Young • The Pernice Brothers • Straitjacket Fits... GREAT MUSIC THAT SHOULD BE HEARD...

by ZenPop on May 21, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

The... write with clarity... part

should have given it away. Or maybe it just means she drinks less…

by DaleHalas on May 21, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

There could be a post about pottery

and we’d have 800 comments completely unrelated to the topic.

by Badgerdano on May 21, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't necessarily agree about this post,

but I do think most people are guilty of the occasional comment to fish for a certain response

by blackhawkeyes on May 21, 2010 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

personally, I enjoyed the change of pace

As much as I appreciate gmh’s stat posts, I really like the creative writing-style ones – I mean, how else would we have gotten the idea of Kaner having black magic?

But that’s just me. I don’t see why you should get burned at the stake for not liking a blog post that everyone else seems to like…now just stay right there till I get back…

/goes off to gather preparations for the burning ;)

by ahnfire on May 21, 2010 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

i'm not saying there's anything wrong with it

just that criticisms (aside from debating the actual hockey observations) have generally been frowned upon both by the commenters on the site (us) and more importantly by whatever drunk put the post up in the first place.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 21, 2010 2:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

No burning at the stake, it's cool.

I liked the post, but different strokes for different folks. Luckily, what with four alcoholics now, if you dislike one post, you’ll likely get a new one the next day.

by spokeinthebandwagon on May 21, 2010 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

that's a good point

I think the average blog post (or news article) generally has a lot less input effort, so when something this long-winded shows up it ends up being a little awkward in the context of everything else, and I can see how it could seem like it’s just an overt attention-getter. But I think it’s good to switch it up and I see gmh as kind of a Sunday column type of writer, as far as her role here goes (I have no idea what it actually is, though). Just something different.

I’ll be honest, I didn’t get turned onto this post right when it was posted; it was sort of like raw cilantro… had a funny taste, but when you find the right pieces in the commentary to go along with it, you’ll wonder why you thought you didn’t find it tasty all along.

by VerStig on May 21, 2010 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

to tie it all together:
had a funny taste, but when you find the right pieces in the commentary to go along with it, you’ll wonder why you thought you didn’t find it tasty all along.

Isn’t that kinda what Bolland was to most fans before the playoffs?

But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."

(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)

by chiblackhawks on May 21, 2010 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know, you don't want to let any reasonable excuse go for a good burning at the stake

or for a stoning for that matter (a la “Life of Brian”?)

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on May 21, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow.. how smart and different!

that actually was my reaction to your rat-post, gmh… sure hope you didn’t mean for that to happen, you poser.

"..and what's on your Christmas list, partner?" P. Foley
"I expect to get leather goods for Christmas.. a belt in the mouth, and a boot in the ass." D. Tallon, 1985

by Gate3anuhHalf on May 21, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

PC POLICE

"Back in the ‘Mighty Ducks,’ " Kane said, referring to the movie, not the team it spawned, "it seems like when there’s two white guys and one black guy, they called it the Oreo Line. It’s not really an Oreo, but its an opposite Oreo. We’ll figure out something, though."

SJM

god i hope mike greenberg doesnt get his slimey fucking hands on that quote. Kane will be on oprah in a week.

"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"

by west_fulton on May 21, 2010 8:55 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm surprised McDonough didn't already make him

I remember reading an article where he was sort of giving an evaluation of how Seabrook was giving an interview after they won a game. “He should be looking at the camera, enunciating his words” or something to that effect. I imagined then he’d be the sort of exec to give his players some kind of PR guidelines, like how to talk to members of the media or what kinds of topics to steer clear from.

Or maybe he did, and Kane is just the sort to not pay attention. I’m inclined to believe this more, hah.

But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."

(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)

by chiblackhawks on May 21, 2010 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, Kaner

I’m sort of glad he’s not PC. If they were all too perfect, it would not be as much fun. Have to keep McDonough’s blood pressure up, somehow!

by Katherine215 on May 21, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Crap Kaner, Buff is only 50/50 himself, so HE'D be the Oreo - dipped in milk

I say they’re the “Cookies in Cream” line. PC be damned.

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on May 21, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

how about the AmeriCan line?

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 21, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

that's good

It’ll never catch on, but it’s good.

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on May 21, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds like a great theme for a beauty pageant!

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 21, 2010 12:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Or maybe a chorus line dance

The AmeriCanCan

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on May 21, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can't find the group dance from Drop Dead Gorgeous on YouTube

And I can’t link things, either, but if you search drop dead gorgeous Jesus dance, you won’t be disappointed

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 21, 2010 12:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I did find it, but also found this link on that page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5Boxx_smoQ&feature=fvw

I may burn in hell, but I thought it was hilarious.

Well, folks, I want to thank you for being here for the recording of my live comedy album. Funny material and laughter will be dubbed in later.

by ChicagoNativeSon on May 21, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's AMAZING

Watch it with the jinxing!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!

by shinkicker on May 21, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

It is a play on one of the most-loved worst hockey movies of all time.

(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J

by meeshak on May 21, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

it was the oreo line

when it was the Hall bros. and Guy Germaine. GET IT RIGHT, KANER.

by gmh on May 21, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kinda surprised

Aerosmith’s Rats in the Cellar (from “Rocks”) didn’t get a mention.

Or did it?

21 and counting.

Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!

by cliffkoroll on May 21, 2010 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

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