You're Just Dustin Bones: Hawks 5 - Canucks 2 Late, Late Wrap
by SamFels on May 6, 2010 12:29 PM CDT
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PrintSo apparently Kills has fallen into the same blackhole of death that possessed Kim Johnsson, so I'll fill in here. By now, you've all seen the game or read other wraps so we'll just hit the main points, shall we?
-The three writers...oh sorry, I guess now it's the three original writers of this site have caught a fair amount of grief for our aversion to Dustin Byfuglien. Last night only proves our point. If Buff wanted to, he could score 30 goals, maybe even 40. Quite simply, when he's in the mood, he is unstoppable. You can't move that much size legally if your a defenseman. He makes life hell for goaltenders. When he's physical, he creates so much space for his linemates. But we only see it against Vancouver in the playoffs. Granted, that's about the most important time to bring it. And last night, you could argue Buff played the best game of his career. He's clearly relishing being the villain, because when you're that big who the fuck is going to make you pay for what you say and do? His celebration after his second goal contained all the bravado and "what the fuck you gonna do about it?" sneer that this team as a whole flashes when they're on their game, and makes me love them so. The Canucks, by trying to do the opposite, made Byfuglien the story of this series before it started off the ice. Now he's the story on it. You can bet your sweet ass he'll get called for one goalie interference call Friday by some worked officials, but I doubt that'll stop him.
-And quite frankly, what are the Canucks going to do to stop him? Not much when you role out the jokes that are Kevin Bieksa and Shane O'Brien. Drinky McGoo (O'Brien) was on the receiving end of when Marian Hossa hits his "I'm going to score now" button. He got worked over like a teenager in Lawrence Taylor's company (too soon? too soon) in the corner before getting beat to the net for the rebound by a good five feet. That's only Marian Hossa you're letting walk out there kid, he doesn't have 300 career goals or anything. Bieksa wasn't much better, and why he felt the need to yap at Byfuglien at the final whistle is anyone's guess. That dude just kicked your ass all night, Juice. Why don't you beat your useless ass back to the dressing room and lick your wounds? Naw, too easy, right?
-Alex Burrows is an embarrassment. I can't even imagine how Canucks fans could defend him at this point. You can yap about his 35 goals during the year, but he went from Ghost to actively hurting the team last night. Oh sure he scored one goal, but it would have been the tying goal if he hadn't spent his time trying to goad noted tough guy Brian Campbell into a fight (and I have no doubts that 51 Phantom could probably kick the shit out that Sedin cum-guzzling douchebag anyway). Then in the 3rd, when Bolland is tied up with Daniel Sedin, who is at least five inches taller than Fabulous Weapon and probably has what, 40 pounds on him, Ass Rash has to protect the twin by punching Bolls in the back of the head. Way to make yourself noticed jerkwad. I know Burish can be a tool, but at least he answers for his shit every so often. So does Versteeg occasionally. All Burrows has served to do is not score and rile the Hawks into beating his ass more. Well done.
-Check these out: CORSI and SHIFT CHARTS. While I've seen some made of keeping the Sedins off the scoresheet, it appears it was only out of pure luck, pure luck being defined as your Finnish goalie turning into all the bricks of the wall (but remember, Tukka Rask and Antti Niemi have nothing on Jimmy Howard). Corsi's all in the -10 range is not good, though I'd like to see what these numbers look like for only Periods 2 and 3. Either way, Bolland must be a complete bitch to play against because when Daniel Sedin gets up in your grill, you know you've accomplished something.
-Luongo just coughed up another rebound.
-Brian Campbell is starting to round into form, something about the Canucks I guess. This is a very good thing.
-Buff's heroics will outshine Niemi, but he provided the platform. He was nothing short of stellar in the 1st, matching what his counterpart had done in Chicago. After bailing his team out, they returned the favor as he didn't see as many shots in the final two periods as he did in the first. I can only think of two or three big saves he had to make in the final frames, where it seemed like every one was in the opener. Keep this up, we're going a long way.
-And another rebound given up by Luongo.
-In my mind, the Hawks cannot let the Canucks off the ropes Friday night. They have all the evidence they need to see what happens when you do, i.e. this series last year, and the Preds this year. Lose Game 4 and this series starts all over with the Canucks having the momentum. Win Game 4, and you're in the same zip code as ending it. We'll see what kind of balls Vancouver has (and seriously Nucks fans, throwing trash again? GROW. THE. FUCK. UP). In past years I would have laughed at that statement. But this Canucks team is different, and I won't believe they're dead until there's a handshake line and they're the ones with their heads down.
-McClure and I were discussing if this was the Luongo meltdown game or not. He says no, I think it is. Either way, he was just plain bad, and he can blame the refs or the dirty, big, mean Hawks all he wants. But Bob is going to have to realize his clown car of a defensive corps are not coming to clear those rebounds, and he should probably suck them out as best he can. If that wasn't the Luongo meltdown, and there's one coming, well, than the Whalers West are in a world of trouble.
OH, BOTTOM LOUNGE TOMORROW: Yeah, I know, we're 0-2 there when having an official watch, but deep down you know that's bullshit. They sent me the specials, they are as follows:
$4 zaya rum cocktails
$4 crystal head vodka cocktails
$4 trumer pils drafts
They'll also be doing their shoot the puck thing at intermissions for hats and stuff. So kick off the weekend with us, you won't regret it. Well, actually, you'll regret it a ton on Saturday morning, but it'll be worth it. I think. Maybe.
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His celebration after his second goal contained all the bravado and “what the fuck you gonna do about it?” sneer that this team as a whole flashes when they’re on their game, and makes me love them so.
was one of the finest things I’ve ever seen.
Anybody have an image of this? I’m thinking new desktop background.
Rock Over London
Rock on Chicago
Diet Pepsi
Uh-Huh!
Hmm
Don’t know why the second one didn’t link, but be sure to look at it and find the blonde with the “OH NO HE DIDN’T” face.
You'd prolly like this one too
Did that one a while ago for the “HE’S CALLED VERSTEEG” thread on the Hawks site.
Awesome
rec’d
Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!
by BigCSouthside on May 6, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think he was taunting the crowd
If you read his lips, he’s distinctly saying “hockey is for everyone” and he’s using his hands to further promote that notion
by EamusCatuli23 on May 6, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Can we get a “Super Rec” that has a flag on it?
Occam's Razor keeps the cutting clean.
by russellguldin on May 6, 2010 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
And you wonder why we love him so...
…do that in your own rink. Pretty borderline in the opposing team’s rink.
Bad karma, in my books, but it’s all good. Bring it on.
Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.
I tend to agree most of the time
But when it comes to Buff, that doesn’t matter. I want him this way at all times.
Rock Over London
Rock on Chicago
Diet Pepsi
Uh-Huh!
honestly, I think the opposite
championship teams play with the big chip on their shoulders on the road, and are more controled themselves at home (while feeding off some of the energy of the home crowd, they remain controled).
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Think you're being a bit thin-skinned there...
…on the celebration. I’m very sensitive to karma issues, and I had no problem with the extended “I am a Golden God” tour of the zone.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
Could have done
the strip tease…
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on May 6, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I pretty much live by this bravado
Roenick always had it.
by MadisonMadHatter on May 7, 2010 2:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Yet another rebound by luongo
You know what? It doesn’t get old.
I saw Luongo's post game interview
he seemed surprisingly upbeat, especially for him
Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!
To me
he didn’t see down on himself or sulking. But what you perceived as upbeat, I perceived as agitated and frustrated. You can tell he was holding back what he really wanted and was annoyed with some of the questions.
wanted...to say
I give up on internet today. I think I’m still drunk.
by EamusCatuli23 on May 6, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll bet Luongo had nightmares of Buff's ass in his face.
Let’s hope Buff continues to make Bob his bitch.
"Everything I know about life, I learned from my father watching the Blackhawks. It can all be summed up in 2 words, 2 simple words that ring over and over in my memory. Detroit Sucks!!! Detroit Sucks!!!"
At this point, I hope Bobby Lu is waking every hour of the night from the smell of Buf's ass in his nightmares
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Great wrap
I freaking LOVE this blog. You guys just keep this shit real. I love it.
My take on Lu’s play: I think he played OK and stopped a lot of good chances. The problem is, he gave up rebounds- big fat juicy rebounds- the entire game. I understand that not giving up rebounds is what separates the “played pretty good” from the great and he’s being giving up rebounds for half the season at least.
I have a point to make and now seems like a good time to do it. I don’t think that was his shit the bed game and here’s why: The Hawks sustained a furious first period thanks to a net minder soaking up everything that came his way. If the Nucks relax and the Hawks unleash the offensive fury they’re capable of, Lu money is going to face an onslaught and you can bet that by then the pressure for McRebound will be too much to bare. A combanation of soft goals and Bufff big ass scooping up fatty’s will chase him by middle of the second. His meltdown is coming and when it hits, they’ll be no questioning it. Last night was just a product of the Hawks playing whatever way they need to play to win. I love that about this team, don’t you?
In all, I think the Nucks are soft, whiny, bitches mentally and physically and the Hawks just flat out took control of the series. Should be fun.
I think I agree...
…if you’re unsure it’s a meltdown, it probably isn’t.
/knock wood
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
I don't think it was a meltdown either
which I like, because this means there will probably be one that is!
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I was thinking that last night, too
At one point in the third it just rolled through my head like a Times Square marquee: Everybody Wants Some.
by Andrew Cieslak on May 6, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
did you link a pic? because i can’t see it. at all. not even a pic failed to load icon.
(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J
I used to be able to see it
but it’s not there now…
Are you talking about the marquee by VerStig?
I see a box with the Everybody Wants Some going across it like a marquee sign.
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
nope
just the word marquee.
Now you know how we felt, meeshak, when darth vader wasn’t appearing that time.
i was thinking the same thing
but i couldn’t figure out a way to ceaselessly make fun of VerStig and his total failure of a life for something that he had no control over and probably didn’t even know had happened.
you’re all a bunch of fucking douches.
(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J
Yup I used to be able to see it
but now I can’t.
SCH has already blinded you
that was quick
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
aww
I probably drove so much traffic to their servers (go SCH!) that they blocked us off, or something.
but the Z button still works
so it’s ok
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
I'm a bit puzzled here too...
…I heard a rumor that gmh hates DLR.*
Man, you guys have changed.
* ok, I made that up.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
can DLR really make an appearance
in Game 3 of a playoff series? that seems awfully close to asking karma to fuck us over.
(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J
agreed
and that wasn’t really a paddling, I didn’t actually relax until about 90 seconds from the end.
Time for some thrillin' heroics!
i don't think it can be overstated how well niemi played in the first
there were at least 7 quality scoring chances that kept the score at 2-0.
I kept screaming
how did that puck not go into the net? My nerves were shot by the end of the first. Thank the hockey gods he was on his game.
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
That one where he got his right pad out and they couldn't elevate
I was screaming my guts out on that one
And the puck popped into the air a little bit
and because of the camera angle I initially thought it went over his pads and into the net.
that was my "oh shit" moment
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
i started screaming at that point
it looked like it went in the net.
Me too
How the FUCK did that not go in???
was what I shouted
Rock Over London
Rock on Chicago
Diet Pepsi
Uh-Huh!
same, I was already cursing but then they kept playing!
and SHIT became HOLY SHIT!
Time for some thrillin' heroics!
At first
I thought Niemi made one of the best saves of the playoffs by getting that rebound with his glove. After a second look, just a typical great save with Niemi’s go-go-gadget legs.
by EamusCatuli23 on May 6, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
same here
though, I think I conveyed my level of concerned to SCH in a very relaxed and laid back way.
it's entirely possible this isn't sarcasm
That save just had me saying..
What the?? I couldn’t even finish because I was in shock. I’ve seen the replay a 100x today and still looks amazing!
Walking out of Hell...
It was refreshing to wake up this morning and notice an unfamiliar disposition around me. I was actually happy for the first time in several weeks. My god, what a full 60 minute game can do to one’s outlook.
As for tomorrow night, its like you hit a 200 yard approach shot within feet of the cup. Now all you have to do is drain the putt.
Don't really like this analogy...
…the Hawks are only halfway there. If Vancouver has any character, tomorrow night will be a brutal slog.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
I agree with you...
Let’s enjoy last night’s victory, but let’s not get over confident. The Nucks had a lot of pressure on the Hawks and without Auntie standing on his head things might have been different. I argued the Hawks played a B+ game in the first while TMFF thought it was more a B-. Either way, it was not an A game and I’m sure we’ll need our A game on Friday.
I'm tired of listening to Lu and his fans
cry about goalie interference. Maybe if Lu stopped taking dives all the goddamned time then maybe the refs might give a shit, but until I see that goalie stop his bleeding every game then he shouldn’t complain when he doesn’t get the calls he want because he’s cried wolf 5 times already.
what a contrast with Niemi isn't it?
I loved that Konroyd gave Nemo credit in the post-game yesterday for the way he goes about his job – no theatrics, no exaggerated movement, just quiet awesomeness. Even when he lets in a goal (or 5) he doesn’t slam his blocker, doesn’t plaster himself on the ice . . . he really does have a great demeanor.
by hawkswin!hawkswin! on May 6, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I love his pad saves
The way a shot will be heading toward the net, through a crowd often, and suddenly from out of the blue comes Niemi’s big, white ironing board to kick it away. Just a joy to watch.
I think the amount of shots Vancouver got last night is perfect for him. Keeps him in the game and focused.
by Andrew Cieslak on May 6, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Love the ironing board
I laughed when it got pointed out (I think it was in one of the national broadcasts during the regular season), but, they really do look like ironing boards!
I was soooo por when I was little ....
and my stick glove was a real waffle iron too
Confusion will be my epitaph.
awww thats just sad :(
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
It was the SCUM shootout game...
The NBC D-Bags also hinted he pads were probably too big…
"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."
I would not mind if the SCUM-Sharks series turns out the same way
Come back against us, only to lose. Bwahaha.
Yeah I agree
That just gets old. Even if you are a whiny bitch. And the thing is, the one questionable goalie inference goal came when the game was out of reach anyway so WTF.
I think Lu’s just a train wreck.
Lots of Hawk trolls at NM today
I saw some regulars over there having real conversation, too. But the trolls are out. Kinda sucks.
Going to an opponent’s board and talking about how you can’t wait to beat them in 5 is pretty weak.
No offense to Rockford or the IceHogs
but we need some AHL version of SBN to send our trolls down to… or at least a press box
Trolls should go to the East Coast League (or the old woodchopping IHL)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Guh
Better there than here though, I guess. I presume some regulars are doing what they can to police the situation.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
I am not sure whether this was a full Bobby Lu meltdown
but there were a number of cracks and leaks in the dyke
Confusion will be my epitaph.
hey
dont make fun of bobby’s sexual orientation
Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!
by BigCSouthside on May 6, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think we could just see a full blown meltdown to come (if the Hawks can amp it up some more)
Maybe the Kiprosoff pull-himself-from-the-game meltdown or the Roy not-pulled-soon-enough tantum level thing.
Or he may have worked it out of system last night.
Friday will be interesting. Was that another rebound kicked out just then?
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Question to you internet saavy folk:
How do you insert a photo that you’ve made via microsoft paint?
Only way it seems to allow it is with a url…
Rock Over London
Rock on Chicago
Diet Pepsi
Uh-Huh!
I found this site that lets you upload a picture and copy it
lookpic.com
It has worked well for me
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
You can only upload to a FanPost
Otherwise you need a URL… you can use a photo sharing site; I actually use Dropbox.
upload it to a photo sharing site
http://photobucket.com/ (registration required)
http://imageshack.us/
http://tinypic.com/
by gmh on May 6, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm new..
but congrats on becoming a writer for the site. I do some stat work on the baseball ends of things as I’m interested in advanced stats. What would you recommend I look at in hockey? I’ve looked at PP’s new statistics.. but only briefly.
Puck Prospectus
and Behind the Net, definitely. There’s a great intro to NHL stats analysis on BtN, which will help you understand a lot of the content on PP.
by gmh on May 6, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
ohsnap
I remember glossing over this before, but looking at it again, that is a trove! I’m looking at that shot distance thing, kind of feel like doing my own “shot quality” analysis now.
(btw, I think I failed at replying to your email, there’s some stinky thing sitting in my drafts folder that I thought I’d sent out… I’ll try to get to it soon)
no worries
take your time!
I want to do a riff on the goalie thing they had going over at HEOTP and shot distance is one of the things currently tripping me up, so I would love to pick your brain about that.
by gmh on May 6, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd like to see WAR adapted to hockey
It seems like they’ve started to adapt it, but work needs to be done to clarify the interpretation.
cool, which one is it?
oh and feel free to pick my brain any time, it’s more of a tool for people to use than for me to do anything meaningful myself… especially now that the whole little brother / niece thing is mostly done
Something I notice
is that there is a steep leveling off of shot distance/quality as you increase the distance from the net. It’s real clear that from 0-7 feet from the net if you can get your stick on the puck there you can manage to score 1 in 3 times (extremely roughly) by 15 feet you’re already down to 1-8 attempts (12%) roughly. By 20 feet it’s 1-10. then it asymptotes out.
i actually think
it’s pretty hard for most guys to score in the 0-2 foot range, as long as the goalie can get any equipment on the ice level in front of the shot. it’s very hard to elevate a shot over a pad that close-in. and i have now undermined my argument that niemi stood on his head.
(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J
In retrospect
the data starts at about 4-5 feet, so you’re probably right.
Maybe it's distance from the back of the net?
Although, the play-by-play from last night says the last Buff goal was from 8 feet, which makes absolutely no sense to me. It’s probably safe to say anything less than 10 feet is point-blank.
What I want to do is look at not just distance but type of shot; they distinguish between tip-ins, deflections, and wrist shots at that range (along with slap shot, etc. at longer ranges; they also tell you what kind of missed shot or saved shot, but not blocked shots).
Not only that but who is shooting
or more appropriately the movement on the wrister and or speed. I agree lots of work to be done there.
Well, unless they get something like PitchFX for hockey
We won’t be touching that stuff anytime soon. I’m annoyed enough that they don’t tell you which team it was when there’s an offsides call, to even worry about that yet.
agreed
“point blank” ain’t all it’s cracked up to be. Saw one textbook example of this last night (don’t remember the Van player.)
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
I use tiny pic
although any of the sites linked below will work. then you put [IMG] tags around the url
Negative Ghostrider
the pattern is full
Hossa's Attorney says:
TAKE OFF THOSE CLOWN SHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!
by BigCSouthside on May 6, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I just hung out with my buddy who teaches at Top Gun the other day
True story. Rad kid. I wore a polo shirt that said “Top Gun” on it, just to make fun of him. Laughs were had.
How bout…. NOW!
Rock Over London
Rock on Chicago
Diet Pepsi
Uh-Huh!
by Campbell32 on May 6, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
nope
You tried to link to a webpage as an image: http://yfrog.com/10buffeatsnucksp
You need to look for the image url (http://nikonizer.yfrog.com/Himg36/scaled.php?tn=0&server=36&filename=buffeatsnucks.png&xsize=640&ysize=640) and then embed using the html code.
or just link to the webpage with the image.
by gmh on May 6, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
hehehe
nice.
And thanks GMH. I think that fixed my problem.
Congrats also! Well deserved promotion.
Rock Over London
Rock on Chicago
Diet Pepsi
Uh-Huh!
Niemi was flat out phenomenal
Especially in the 1st period. Byfuglien could not be moved and was in the back of the Nucks heads the entire night. He riled the entire Nucks team up. The Sedins (Daniel mostly) were picking fights with guys that would bloody their faces with blows to the nose. It finally culminated in the Ass Wipe ( I have another nickname but because there are women on this site, I’ll refrain) and O Brien having to double team Bolland (Why the fuck did Bolland get a misconduct penalty for getting punched in the back of the head?) Anyhow, a win Friday by the Hawks and a win tonight by the Sharks would make me feel a lot better. Or do we want the scum to win a game or two to beat up the Sharks?
I'd be fine with the Sharks winning tonight and then thinking about how awesome they are for the next week or so
Of course, that series is a moot point if we don’t give Vancouver more of the same tomorrow night. And if Hossa and Campbell continue to heat up, then it’s on, my friend.
Niemi was dynamite last night. If they ever make a movie about Niemi, I think he should be played by Leonardo DiCaprio.
Speaking of actors, what gives with Owen Wilson hanging at GM Dump? We get Vince Vaughn and they have Owen Wilson? Intriguing …
Duncan Keith = 2010 Norris Trophy Winner
Is Owen Wilson a Canucks fan?
And if he is, I guess we would not be surprised to see him and Vince Vaughn hanging out at game 4 “Wedding Crashers”-style! Crab cakes?
LUigi was found dead at the scene, murdered by a Chelsea Dagger.
from what i read online
he was in Vancouver for filming. i’m guessing Vince Vaughn told him to check out the game, but he probably doesn’t have any real allegiance (not like the Vinster, who is obviously a hard core fan)
(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J
he wasn't wearing anyone's logo
though he did have Canuck colors on, possibly by accident/for protection.
Time for some thrillin' heroics!
"I don't care what happened. I'm not giving that goal to Buff"
-what the official scorer thought after the 5th goal
This is fantastic
Nucks wanted “revenge” for the past year and looked forward all season to beating the Hawks here in the playoffs.
Hawks spent all year wanting the Cup and see the Nucks as something in their way that they must go through.
I wonder which philosophy will wn out?
SCH Resident Idiot
Success is our only mother f*&#ing option, failure's not
you would think the Nucks would be better focused on this series if it was your big focus all year
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I think
they’re cracking. Bad head = Bad game
SCH Resident Idiot
Success is our only mother f*&#ing option, failure's not
Beat the team you're playing
Great strategy. Tends to pay off.
Rock Over London
Rock on Chicago
Diet Pepsi
Uh-Huh!
I think it's retarded to desperately seek revenge on a team that rightfully bounced your ass from the playoffs last season
What were we supposed to do? Let them win? Should we have kept Kane on the bench for game six or something?
Duncan Keith = 2010 Norris Trophy Winner
I'm somewhat shocked at the "drain the putt" and "premature celebration" going on here.
Shouldn’t we all know from last series that being down 2-1 in a series means pretty much nothing?
Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.
I see a lot of "we need to keep that up" going on
and not so much “we’ve got it in the bag” happening
We tend, at the core, to be a little more on the trepidatious side here
Confusion will be my epitaph.
by krome on May 6, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah. All we can do is go out tomorrow night, skate hard and park Buff's fat ass right back in front of Lu
Love the fact we’re not retaliating whenever shitheads like Burrows try to bait us.
Duncan Keith = 2010 Norris Trophy Winner
Never can look past the next game
Causes for too many pains. I’ll just take my chances and worry about Friday. It’s not by any means going to be easy.
Also there are always rooms for improvement
Hawks just flat out took control of the series.
As for tomorrow night, its like you hit a 200 yard approach shot within feet of the cup. Now all you have to do is drain the putt.
I actually found it a pretty balanced game (all 3 have been, in my books, so far).
Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.
granted, we have our doofuses too (every site does)
but is you were to look at the comment totals of the core people (who have more problems with fending off “the sky is falling” syndrome) they are not going over board. That is the domain of the less frequent participants.
This has been a fairly evenly matched series overall, between two pretty evenly matched teams (though not with identical gifts or vulnerabilities), and a lot of people (like me) predicted a 7 game series unless one team played well above their norm and/or the other well below (in which case i could have seen it going either way in as little as 5)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
by the way - that comment was the guy's only comment ever, the sole, solitary, singular one
which sort of serves as evidnece of my point
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I didn't see the post, but please don't put it on all of us.
This is going to be a tough series, and it will take more than 3 wins to take it.
Anyone who celebrates before winning 4, is probably a Douche.
Trolls suck, everybody has them, because sniveling little wieners get taller on the internet.
Bless their hearts.
"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."
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Anyone who celebrates before winning 4, isprobablya Douche.
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i don't see much like after game 5 against the Preds
when people were actively talking about a series with Vancouver. but this site has a tendency to have a number of posters come out of the woodwork just to either commit suicide from desperation or to claim series victory after one good game. so, i see what you’re saying.
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If Detroit were up 3-0 though...
…the woodwork would be empty, due to the deep-seated Scum-fixation around here. Thank God.
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But they aren't
and I’m not sure that’s true. Vancouver ranks a close second to Scum in terms of hatred, and while we’re not nearly as scared of them as we are of Detroit, it strikes me that people on SCH aren’t taking the Nucks as lightly as they did Nashville (for good reason; we may have been lucky to win some of the games against the Preds, but I honestly don’t think that series was ever in question – this one most definitely is).
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Hmmm
My contention is that the propensity to look ahead last series was precisley because the hated Nucks were waiting in the wings. If Detroit were in that position now, Hawks fans would be irrestibly drawn to think about that match-up.
And this (about Nashville):
I honestly don’t think that series was ever in question
well, the Hawks were down 2-1, so I’m impressed, with a dash of skepticism.
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yeah, well, hindsight's 20/20
and what do i know. i’ve hardly been reading this site for a few days now (or two weeks in meeshak time). but SCHers seem much more interested in this series than the Preds series.
(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J
I was more afraid of the Predators
than I am of Vancouver. Nashville is much more disciplined and play a style of hockey the Hawks never do well with. I was worried they wouldn’t adapt to beat Nashville, even up until the final minutes of Game 6.
Vancouver plays a style the Hawks are more interested in, and they like playing Vancouver. And Nashville wasn’t going to lose their heads the way Vancouver was likely to do.
DISCIPLINE
I also key for me. the Preds had it in droves, and while i’ve never thought of the Nucks (and particularly the Sedins) as undisciplined, watching them all wilt yesterday was a textbook case in loss of composure.
Discipline and work-ethic are what scared me about the Preds, and last night’s lack thereof made me feel better about playing Vancouver.
by puppetmasterp on May 6, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
loss of composure scares me
you never know what you’re going to get out of them in the next game. what if they go all Col. Kurtz on the Hawks? who’s our machete-bearing Willard?
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I agree with this
but I just feel that the hawks can play them better overall than they could Nashville. Also, if it’s that easy to make someone lose their temper, they likely aren’t able to get back to full control again. Their patience is shorter and their buttons are easier to push. Not that I’m speaking from experience or anything.
Vancouver still terrifies me
I didn’t (often) entertain the thought that the Hawks would stay so brain dead against Nashville as to lose the series.
Ths series was always a “could go either way” one in my mind, and nothing (yet) has me thinking otherwise
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I don't mean to imply
that I think the series is over, I definitely don’t. Just that I feel more comfortable that the Hawks will play as well as they can more often in this series than they did last series. Vancouver can still beat them though.
I'd flip it around
It’s not that I’m more confident about the ‘Hawks; it’s more that there’s a much stronger likelihood of the ‘Nucks imploding than the Preds. But I don’t want to assume anything.
I feel less scared on both counts
but I am still concerned (and will be until the handshake line is under way)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Bingo
There was no way the Hawks could let up banging the Preds over the head with a shovel in that series, even for a minute.
This series may go the same way, but it may not.
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I used to actively hate the Canucks
more than the Red Wings, although of course I hated the Wings’ fans so much more than anybody else. You can’t hate a team your own team is trying to become, not really. (You CAN, however, hate the paranoia that’s pervasive among the fanbase.)
I say used to because the Canucks are beginning to amuse me a little bit. I can’t help it; their whining’s beginning to grow on me.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
itchy, and an acquired taste
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by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I haven’t forgotten what happened on Saturday yet. Until there are handshakes and a confirmed date for the Hawks to play in San Jose, I can’t be amused by the Nucks.
You’re right, too, about hating the Red Wings’ team. Such a perfect team, perfectly conceived, and perfectly executed on the ice, is something no true hockey fan could hate. But I’m reveling in their downfall. Screw anything else, the Sharks should close it out tonight and I will be one happy human.
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the thing is--
and I hate to admit this, but if the Canucks advance, I will probably end up cheering for them. So that’s one more reason the Hawks have to take this series, right? Right.
But I’m reveling in their downfall.
As would I. Although, cruelly, it will have nothing to do with the product on ice and everything to do with my schadenfreudian feelings towards their fans.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
for me, it has a little to do with last year
but mostly it has to do with the horrifying interactions i had with their degenerate fanbase during the winter classic
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The Sharks
just don’t inspire enough emotion in me to care about them. Even if they do have Versteeg 2.0.
And I’m saying all of this, but I don’t know still what I’d feel if it actually happens. I know most Canucks fans are cool people, but I can also identify a couple of insufferable fans and my position may change over time.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
ok, I can see that
My hatred of the Canucks far outweighs my meh feelings for the Sharks. I don’t think I can root for the Canucks any time soon.
haha, yeah, like I said
I say it now, but at the end of the day, I may not be able to. I hope I don’t find out.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I do enjoy the traditional SJ meltdown enough to maybe pull for that
and as irritating as many Canucks (and fans) can be, I have some level of respect for many of the other players
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I hope I don't find out either
But I’m with chi on this one. I’d be rooting for the Nucks if they were up against the Sharks. I can see how some could see this as strange. With football, I’d be the same way…if the Packers knocked the Bears out of the playoffs, I’d probably be rooting for the pack. Some Bears fans would see this as sacrilege.
That said, all it would take is another hair-pulling incident or some similar event and I’m flipping sides.
Don't get me started
Sometimes during football season, at the local (Schaumburg) Dominicks, they’ll have fucking Packers cupcakes on display. W.T.F!
I hesitate between (a) calling out the manager to demand an explanation and (b) dumping the whole display on the ground, stomping it, throwing down $50, and storming out.
IIn the end, I just skulk around muttering under my breath, bemoaning yet another sign of the decline of Western Civilization.
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by cliffkoroll on May 6, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
There's a lot of Packers fans out there
Maybe it was more a function of the teams at the time, but I remember there being at least 50% Pack fans at my school when I was little.
I kinda figured...
..they weren’t putting those cupcakes out for all the Chiefs fans around here.
I can assure you that in 1985 there were basically no Packer fans in the area. Funny thing, they got good and, as Patton said “America loves a winner.”
It feels like an encroachment, and someone’s nutsack is in need of a punch.
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you want encroachment?
try living in far northern Lake County. damn, there are actual packers bars in my hometown – more than one!
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lol, smartass
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like you guys are finding out Bieksa and O’Brien aren’t exactly Weber and Suter, eh?
Also, Burrows is a complete idiot. Least favorite player in the world.
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Weber and Suter were both a real pain in the ass for us
I don’t miss playing Nashville, that’s for sure.
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You could argue they were the playoffs’ best d pair. You got past ’em. Vancouver probably has the weakest D of anyone left.
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Actually, I'd say they are a top three D pair in the league
And the fact you’re goaltender played out of his mind didn’t help our cause very much.
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I agree, but don’t want to be accused of being a homer.
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Not to be a homer but
I don’t think the fall off to Seabs and Keith is that far from Suter and Weber. I’d rank them Weber/Keith/Seabs/Suter. but I wouldn’t argue if you had it differently.
For sure. We probably have the top two d-pairs in the world.
Based on what I saw Suter was capable of in the Olympics, I think he’s a tad better than Seabrook on a consistent basis. Seabrook has been unreal these playoffs though.
I’d go Weber/Keith/Suter/Seabrook.
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I wouldn't disagree with that ranking
but Seabs has been phenomenal so far in Games 2 and 3 vs the Nucks.
they're very different players and so hard to directly compare
between them, who you’d most want most may well be determined by who else you’d have to match him with.
Both pairs ‘as is’ have a very nice mix of size/strength/speed/big shot/puck moving. Swapping out Keith – Suter or Seabrook – Weber might give both teams somewhat similar overall results.
I don’t think a Keith – Weber or Seabs – Suter swap would give you two pairs that are as well balanced as the current pairings
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Weber
is as physical as Seabs but also has a super heavy shot on the PP. For that reason he’s probably better than either Keith or Seabs.. He’s like Keith and Seabs combined. I see Suter as… worse than Seabs because he’s like Keith but not as talented. Then again, I don’t watch him every day.. and saw him only in the Olympics where he was fantastic.
A lot of nights, Suter is the best Predator on the ice. He just gets shit done. No mistakes. Ever.
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Great way to put it. You almost never, ever notice him. Which is why he rocks. Weber scores and smashes, which gets pub.
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I'll perhaps venture this
I think Keith/Weber would be an bit of an upgrade and Suter/Seabrook a bit of a downgrade
but I just don’t think Keith/Suter or Weber/Seabrook is what anyone would prefer – the mix/blends of talents don’t give you as broad a range as the current pairings
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Yup. Covered that below. Keith/Suter is redundant, as is 7/6.
Which is why I was baffled as to how Rafalski/Suter worked so well in the Olympics.
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Suter and Rafalski are both very smart and adaptable D men
it isn’t a great surprise – they both are able to (and did) adjust their games to compliment who they’re with.
Suter may be more talented than some give him credit for, because he blends with and fills in for his partner’s strengths and weaknesses very well.
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Suter may be more talented than some give him credit for, because he blends with and fills in for his partner’s strengths and weaknesses very well.
I’d agree with that.
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I remember seeing him a bit in youth hockey
(my son played against him a little in the early/mid teen years) – he could look very different (always good though) just based on what other player he paired with – the sign of a very skilled and very high “hockey IQ” player
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Sounds like our Hjammer
Plays well with Soupy, played well with Seabs (hey CNS, I think he will be getting an email from mom soon!), and handles the PK with Sopel very well
Just to see..
( OGVT DGVT SGVT GVT)
Keith 13.7 8.8 0.0 22.4
Seabrook 2.7 7.9 0.5 11.1
Weber 6.6 5.1 -0.3 11.4
Suter 2.6 5.7 0.0 8.3
If you use GVT (which is probably a bit biased due to the Goal differential between Nashville and Chicago) Keith is far and away the best Dman on the two teams.
which is probably a bit biased
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No doubt
but Suter is a 5.7 DGVT Seabs is a 7.9. The Seabs/Keith pairing doesn’t give up many goals..
How often does 2/8 play with Toews and Hossa, though? Those two Fs are insanely good on D.
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2/7
Of the games I’ve seen (which unfortunately hasn’t been as many as I would like (out in NC for grad school). It’s just as likely for them to play with the Toews/Kane/Insert PF here line as it is to play with the Sharp/Hossa/Kopecky(Insert other F here) line. I haven’t missed a playoff game yet, but I missed a good portion of the regular season.
From Round 1 Game 5
since it’s what I had lying around… it looks like Marlboro 72 actually played with the third line (Versteeg-Bolland-Ladd) twice as much as they did with the top line… I guess it would make sense to put a “shutdown pair” with your checking line (wait, was Madden on the fourth line already then?)
My gut says....
…they’ve spent a lot of time with Bolland’s line (i.e. vs. the things & sammy) this series.
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There's just no way I am taking ANY D line pairing over Keith/Seabrook
What Keith lacks in physicality, he more than makes up for with stick presence and straight-up speed. Like the scouting report says, he plays a very cerebral game and and is a threat on both offense and defense. Weber’s really, really good, but I think Keith is a better all-around defenseman. Weber may have the better slap shot, and Doughty may be more a pure scorer from the point, but give me No.2 any day of the week.
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Enjoying your jinx-free spring I see.
The freedom to say whatever comes to mind. You’re a lucky man Chris.
Seriously, Keith is the best of the four, though Weber may yet eclipse him.
It’s not just Nashville’s top pair though. 2nd and even 3rd pairings are pretty solid.
Nashville’s got some limitations, but in a lot of ways, playing the Preds were a great prepartion for this series. No fucking quit in that team.
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As of right now, yes, Keith is the best. Pretty close between him and Weber.
Jon Blum in Milwaukee is projected to be better than Weber. Franson and Ryan Ellis are incredibly gifted offensively. Klein rounds it out.
Weber/Suter
Franson/Ellis
Klein/throwaway
Thats scary good future.
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also
Teemu Laakso, Rob Dietrich, Roman Josi (Swiss Olympian), Alex Sulzer (German Olympian) all in the system. Want one?
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we're looking to shed salary
you can have Versteeg.
Oh, oh, can we also have Dan Ellis? IDK what we’d do with him but he’s pretty funny.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Dan’s awesome. Best interview on the team, easy, and is a halfway decent goalie. I know for sure he’s a better backup than Huet just because his salary.
Versteeg for Ellis straight up!
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I heard Ellis wanted to eventually be a broadcaster
Can see it happening.
Anyway, we’ve got a deal. Let me go and make that phone call now.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, him and Belak would be an awesome booth tandem.
That deal benefits both teams if you can dump Huet!
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oh, I guess
you didn’t read the fine print, did you?
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
alas, Nashville has salary issues of its own
not Cap space related, but their revenue stream doesn’t permit them to operate up near the Cap limit
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I am a Giants fan
so I have seen a lot of Blum. I think he is a wonderful player. But in what world does he project to be better than Weber?
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by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
No idea. Several people are saying this, including our AHL coach who coached Weber at the same age.
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OK well I would
definitely take the words of an AHL coach with a grain of salt. He has a vested interest in developing the current guy and building confidence is part of that. I think Blum will be a good D man in the NHL but I can’t see a way that he reaches the level Weber is at.
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by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
This is true, but he is the only name I could remember.
Canucks fan, are ya?
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Yeah
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by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Chuck Norris wears Shea Weber briefs.
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by Chris Burton on May 6, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
good things to come
if you can afford them AND some good forwards and goaltending
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Exactly. Weber/Seabrook would not work, but Weber/Keith would be dynamite.
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It's not much of a homer statement when it's true
I am a big believer that the teams with the best bluelines tend to succeed in the playoffs.
Duncan Keith = 2010 Norris Trophy Winner
I still think we have the best D pairing in the league
Keith’s about as good as it gets for a two-way defenseman, and Seabrook is the perfect complement to Dunc.
Duncan Keith = 2010 Norris Trophy Winner
You really think the Vancouver D
is weaker than the Montreal D? That’s pretty hilarious.
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by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Focusing on the bottom 3 d-men will make for some hilarious statements
Which is what seems to be happening here. I don’t see much blather about Ehrhoff, Edler or Salo.
Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.
No need for us to think much about the 8th seed in the East
the West’s eventual winner (whoever that may be) will not be facing Montreal
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I was responding
to someone saying that the Nucks D is the worst of the teams left in the playoffs. I assumed he meant everyone left in the playoffs and not just potential finals opponents.
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by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I think your understanding was correct
but I think he forgot about the Habs. I would enjoy seeing the Habs in the finals though for reasons I won’t elaborate upon…
Markov, Gill, Hamrlik, Gorges or Salo, Ehrhoff, and shit?
I’ll take the Habs’ D who owned the Caps, thanks.
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Edler is shit?
24 years old in his 3rd full season in the NHL. 42 points this year. Yeah he sure is shit. And if your including Markov then I guess we can include Mitchell since it doesn’t seem to matter if guys are hurt or not. And the Montreal D didn’t “own” anyone. The Caps dominated averaging 41 shots per game. They just couldn’t finish which had much less to do with the Montreal D than it did with the Caps.
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by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably should be comparing Salo-Edler to Weber-Suter. That would be a fairer comparison.
Not saying I’d take Salo-Edler (obviously), but to compare Weber-Suter to one guy on our 2nd and one guy on our 3rd pair seems a little…strange.
Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.
Right, I was more remarking on the disparity between Nashville’s defense (especially after Grebeshkov got healthy) and Vancouver’s, in reference to McClure’s remarks about SOB/Bieksa.
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Fair enough.
D was always going to be the rough spot, especially with no Mitchell.
With Mitchell, it’s Mitchell-Salo, Ehrhoff-Edler and Bieksa-Obrien, with the latter only getting 10-15 a night. That’s an entirely different ballgame.
Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.
If Johnsson hadn't died suddenly and mysteriously, we'd have been better off too
the playoffs are the Battaan Death March of sports, the winner is sometimes the team that has the most guys survive rathr than the best team going in
Confusion will be my epitaph.
if I'm not mistaken
I think I’ve seen you reference the Bataan Death March a couple of times on SCH. I don’t know many people who have this event top of mind when making analogies. If you don’t mind my asking, is there a reason you do?
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
i've met krome a couple times.
he’s not nearly psychologically damaged enough to have been there.
i’m guessing this is an analogy conceived of by hockey coaches during one of the tournaments his teams participated in.
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I had a friend of the family who survived it
it is an apt (if pale) analogy
Confusion will be my epitaph.
didn't mean to make light of this horrific event...
…I was going for a lame, ageist joike. Admittedly weak.
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I'm the one that uses the analogy now and then
so I’m certainly not over sensitive about it
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Ahh, I see
strangely enough, despite growing up there (or close enough, at least) and studying about it in history class nearly every year, I don’t actually know anyone personally who was there.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
A lot didn't survive it to start with & most that did passed long since
The march, involving the forcible transfer of 75,000 American and Philipino prisoners of war captured by the Japanese in the Philippines from the Bataan peninsula to prison camps, was characterized by wide-ranging physical abuse and murder, and resulted in very high fatalities inflicted upon the prisoners and civilians along the route by the armed forces of the Empire of Japan. Beheadings, cutting of throats and casual shootings were the more common actions—compared to instances of bayonet stabbing, rape, disembowelment, rifle butt beating and a deliberate refusal to allow the prisoners food or water while keeping them continually marching for nearly a week in tropical heat. Falling down or inability to continue moving was tantamount to a death sentence, as was any degree of protest or expression of displeasure.
Route of the death march. Section from San Fernando to Capas was by rail.Prisoners were attacked for assisting someone falling due to weakness, or for no apparent reason whatsoever. Strings of Japanese trucks were known to drive over anyone who fell. Riders in vehicles would casually stick out a rifle bayonet and cut a string of throats in the lines of men marching alongside the road. Accounts of being forcibly marched for five to six days with no food and a single sip of water are in postwar archives including filmed reports.2
The exact death count has been impossible to determine, but some historians have placed the minimum death toll between six and eleven thousand men; whereas other postwar Allied reports have tabulated that only 54,000 of the 72,000 prisoners reached their destination—taken together, the figures document a casual killing rate of one in four up to two in seven (25% to 28.6%) of those brutalized by the forcible march. The number of deaths that took place in the internment camps from delayed effects of the march is uncertain, but believed to be high.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bataan_Death_March
Confusion will be my epitaph.
it was a topic often covered in history class
though never as gruesomely described. Though I suspect if there was anyone in the family with personal ties to the march, I might still not know. It isn’t the sort of thing they would have liked to talk about.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sure how much it gets covered in the US
I’m familiar with it because I’m a history buff as a tertiary (or maybe quaternary) interest, but despite the redonkulous focus on US history in American education, we rarely even got to WW2 and even then (not to be insensitive or anything — I’m just saying this is how the curriculum broke down) it was 50% about Pearl Harbor and 50% about Hitler and the Holocaust. So much is left uncovered, unless you study this stuff in college.
but isn't that the hallmark of history classes?
I didn’t develop an interest in it until very late, and by then I realized I knew very little. Most countries, I imagine, will have very nation-centric perspectives on things. Even “world history”, as it were for me, barely touched on anything other than what the Philippines’ role was in this or that war. BARELY anything about the holocaust save for a passing mention—though plenty was said about comfort women.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, true
Same is true of my parents and where they came from. But in the context of how ignorant Americans (rightfully) have a reputation of being of the rest of the world (heck, even the middle of the country!), it was just kind of silly to look at “social studies” class:
Kindergarten — pilgrims
1st grade — colonial period
2nd grade — geography and stuff
3rd grade — general US history
4th grade — general US history
5th grade — general US history
6th grade — “world history” (ancient civs + surveying random cultures)
7th grade — general US history
8th grade — US government
9th grade — world history (anglocentric until 1776, then basically American history)
10th grade — whatever
11th grade — US history
12th grade — US government
Ugh. I mean, no wonder nobody here knows anything about the rest of the world.
I’m quite impressed that you know about this. I found out about this merely by accident, and I try as much as possible to educate myself in Philippines history.
Most of what I know is either American or Philippine history concerning Filipinos though. We haven’t been here long in Canada.
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I don't know much about Filipino history in Canada either.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
World cutlures?
Not important. C’mon people, we have to focus here!
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glad to see
that you’re alright in Nashville. I haven’t been on in a few days, but we were a little worried about how things were faring with y’all. Good to see things seem alright.
I almost forgot I can't afford the bleach that turns collars from blue to white...but I never liked the collar white anyways.
Perfect
Get outstanding goalie play? Check. Get in Bobby Lu’s head with relentless crease-crashing? Check. Score 5 (count ‘em, 5) goals off rebounds allowed by aforementioned Bobby Lu? Check +, because even 2 of those would have been enough to have him gripping it too tight. Get in the coach’s head, the entire roster’s head, the crowd’s head? Check, and then some. Make Big Buff the focal point of whatever adjustments the Nucks try to make for Friday? Check, and Hossa/Kane/Toews/Steeger must be drooling over that one. Win the game (I still don’t believe I saw this) with physical play instead of with speed? Big, fat, Buff-size check.
The only way this game could have been any better would have been anyone wearing a Hawks sweater kicking the ever-loving crap out of Burrows sometime in the last minute. But even then, I get the sense the boys are in control, and they know there’s going to be a better time and place for it.
Buff’s celebration after his second goal was an all-time “fuck you” moment. And am I the only one that noticed that no one seemed to care that it was only the second period at the time? I think they all knew they were winning that game, even then. Lots of hockey left to be played, but if anyone tells you that the Hawks aren’t firmly in control on multiple levels right now, they’re either lying or in denial. Is it Friday yet?
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by TenMinuteMisconduct on May 6, 2010 1:50 PM CDT reply actions
I could see things reversing on Friday if we're not careful
The emphasis on their side of wanting to “goon it up” further comfort me somewhat, actually — but that might just be masterful misdirection. I don’t want to speculate, but we’ll cross that bridge/game when we get there.
It's started, at least
Luongo: “Chicago is not a better team than us.”
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Uh. Check the standings, Lou.
On the Forecheck/Twitter/CLS
"What do you think this is? Major League Baseball?"- Shea Weber
What, exactly, is he supposed to say?
“Yup, Chicago is a better team.”?
Either way, there’s really not much to pick between the teams.
Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.
It depends on the question
“If the question was: Is Chicago a better team than Vancouver? I agree with you.
If the answe is tangential to the question, well, I wonder who he’s trying to convince.
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they aren't far apart - and as an old coach, any player that won't make himself believe "we" are better than any "them" can clean out his locker now
This series could – still – easily go 7 games (or less) and either team could move on.
The difference will be how many (and which) games the Game 1 Canucks and Game 3 Hawks show up against how many (and which) games the Game 1 Hawks and Game 3 Cancuks show up
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Prediction
….first time Buff sets up in the crease Friday, he gets crosschecked, slashed or outright mugged, to “send a message”. Crowd cheers stupid penalty because “we’re not gonna take that shit anymore”, power play either converts or doesn’t. I don’t care, because the key to the whole thing is for the next guy, whether it’s Buff or Ladd or anyone else, to plant themselves in the same fucking spot and dare the next guy to do it.
And if I’m Q, I’m telling anyone capable of delivering a big hit to do it early and often (in control and in position, of course). If they’re focused on the physicality, then they’re playing to their weakness, not their strength. What happened last night was way too big a bonus to let slip away. Get ’em thinking about what you want ’em to think about, not what they should be thinking about.
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by TenMinuteMisconduct on May 6, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't thnk the Hawks should overthink things...
…just play their game. Let AV play Kabuki theatre.
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I highly doubt the Canucks will be gooning it up
They need to get back to the zen approach from Games 1 and 2.
If it’s a goon fest, this series could be over quickly. I think Game 3 proved that a goon fest is not the best way to compete.
Knights, Canucks, Dolphins, Jays and Raptors all the way.
we agree - but do the teams, at their core beings, understand this
our Hawks have often seemed maddening clueless a lot this year – and we sure saw some of that from your guys last night.
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I just still can't believe the Nucks fans at GM Dump started throwing trash. What, is this Cleveland?
Loved the one fan who kept throwing up double-barreled birds to the camera …
Duncan Keith = 2010 Norris Trophy Winner
I agree
we need to not get too full of ourselves. The Hawks have followed up with some clunkers, but today sure is a nice day.
80% of the people in GM Place
aren’t really Canucks fans. They are morons with drinking problems who should have been aborted. Please don’t judge Canuck fans or the people of Vancouver by the trash that goes to games.
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"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
“…morons with drinking problems who should have been aborted.” Yep, there are a few of those in Chicago too.
I'm sure this is true
same goes for the SCH trolls over at NM- bad apples.
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Anyone else notice that the passing the last two games
has been damn good?
Only up 2 games to 1 on the enemy’s ice. Keep up the physicality, effort, and keep bodies right in front of Luongo. If he is giving that many rebounds, low shots from the point are going to keep killing him if the lanes are open.
Pretty game, just don’t settle.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on May 6, 2010 2:03 PM CDT reply actions
Funny I didn't see it that way
I thought there have been too many of the long passes, though they did cut that down. However it’s been “better” but I still see too many blind passes going out of our zone or wind up to the the outside boards trying to clear the puck or making a pass out of the zone. Not trying to be negative because I am in a great mood but I think they can tighten that up a little Friday.
They have
significantly lowered those long passes compared to the Preds series. Mainly because the Nucks don’t attack like the Preds do on the forecheck. I still think the passing has been exceptional lately.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on May 6, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think playing the Preds was a huge boost
I even saw them break out the chip-clear a few times, which I don’t recall seeing much before.
a few times?
i feel like they used it often enough that i lost count
by puppetmasterp on May 6, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Dunky had that nifty deflection off the boards too
But yeah, those long passes have disappeared a bit… I saw one quirky play where we did a chip-dump to try to get a breakaway (I think Sharpie got to the net, but the puck didn’t), it seems like the ’Hawks have become more risk averse. Still the occasional lingering drop pass though.
I mean
did you see the fake, then pass by Dunc on the game winner in game 2? How about the pass from Seabs out of their zone to start a rush that led to a goal. and that is just a couple of them.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on May 6, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
i went over to NM
because i just can’t help myself, and saw this post. first of all, #2 pretty much sums up why the Hawks are such a dangerous team. but, the #1 really stood out to me. anyone else think that’s bizarre? made me wonder what game the guys at NM were watching at approximately 8:30 Central Daylight Savings Time.
(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J
I think the point is
that despite getting away a high number of shots last night in the first period the Canucks didn’t force Niemi into too many hard saves. The Hawks D were taking away time and space so most of the shots were low and Niemi handled them easily.
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by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Making 16 pretty routine saves
is standing on your head now?
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"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
those were all routine saves?
what game were you watching?
by istolethekishka on May 6, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
there were several very tough ones
although a couple looked more like the Van forward simply didn’t finish well
Confusion will be my epitaph.
yeah, a couple more elevated pucks
and this could have been a different post entirely
by gmh on May 6, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
the first 5 times I saw Gretzky play, he seemed to be the luckiest player ever
no one stomps the opposition like a bug every time – sometimes you’ve just positioned yourself that much faster/better/whatever that you manufacture your own luck
Confusion will be my epitaph.
That's a very good point
But in that case, it’s not luck — it’s just a defective eye test! (I kid… but you’re right, it’s not always easy to tell at first)
hell, my vision was good back then!
but really, Gretzky wasn’t physically imposing – when rough stuff was less restrained, he wasn’t blazing fast, others were harder shooters and more graceful skaters. He just game in game out, play after play, was 3 mental steps ahead of everyone else and was able to make very accurate, above average speed passes and shots with no telegraphing and while moving at full speed under pressure.
The first few times you saw him do things, it did seem “lucky” – he was just able to do it over and over consistently
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Depending on how you define your terms, it could be "luck"
“Luck is the resdiue of design.” – Branch Rickey
Seems to describe #99 to a tee.
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that first period
he made several fantastic saves. The Hawks could’ve easily trailed 3-2 at the end of the 1st. Niemi willed them ahead in the 1st.. In the 2nd and 3rd he was more human… but you have to admit he played very well in the 1st
His rebound control
was much better than games 1 & 2, also.
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by IndianHeadCrest on May 6, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
not giving up rebounds, and when he did, stopping 2nd and 3rd chances is what was great. compared to game 1, he swallowed a lot of shots that he was giving up rebounds to.
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on May 7, 2010 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions
that's what i saw
@312, I know what hailstop’s point was. our D was perfectly positioned to clear up rebounds last night. everything niemi couldn’t hold on to went directly to a hawk stick. but there were more than a couple times when niemi was seriously tested, including three close in shots, two of which he saved with his super-flat right pad, one of which was fired point blank into his chest.
(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J
OK but are shots that are fired from point blan
range into pads and chests really a goalie standing on his head? Or shooters shitting the bed? I remember maybe 2 saves at most where I thought the Canuck shooter did well and Niemi did well to make the save. The rest of the time it was more to do with positioning, solid D coverage and shitty shooting. None of which, to me, indicates a goalie who was really tested nor who stood on his head.
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by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
You may have a point there
I remember hearing from the VS broadcast team last night that you guys were trying to buzz the crease (I believe effort was made, it just didn’t end up the same as what we did), leaving four Hawks between the 2 point men and the goalie… I’m surprised we didn’t block more shots (I think 16?), because it sure seemed like we did.
re: #2
I remember they were singing the song about how their supporting cast was so much more effective than our supporting cast at the beginning of the series…
I’ll chalk that up to not being familiar enough with the other team (who would’ve thought), and just using 1st round numbers as a comparison instead (and seriously, Preds =/= Kings). But funny to see the change in tune.
I wouldn’t read too much into it. For us, it was that we finally had our other lines contributing. Where it has been a struggle at times.
Not being familiar…depends on who you talk to. Some people know, or at least acknowledge more than others. The common theme I saw is that these teams match up great and it should provide for a great series. Finding different opinions from one game to the next is more of the ebb and flow of playoff hockey.
Shove it in your addendum.
Funny you say that
For us it was the other way around, I think — our fourth line was generating half our offense at the end of the regular season…
I have to be honest though; I know very little about the Nucks, so I would’ve likely made the same mistake of judging things based off the 1st round. I guess it’s just good to remember to take all stats with some salt (often more than a grain).
Agree. Stats are useful. But can be bent any possible way to make things look different than they actually are.
Shove it in your addendum.
That just makes the interpretation bad
not the stat itself. The stat is what it is, but if you try to twist it to fit your interpretation, and not admit it’s biases/interpretations/assumptions, then you can bend it.
62% of statistics are made up on the spot
Hey, it is what it is.
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Blah
Admittedly I’m a graduate student studying Educational Research (Measurement/Psychometrics) and Stats. But it irritates me when people act like stats can be twisted… not the case,.. people just do things like ignore the assumptions or limitations of statistics/the model.
Stats can't be twisted
but the selection of stats to illustrate an argument certainly can be. Not to mention the creation of certain stats that only tell a fraction of the story but are used in an attempt to explain the whole story.
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by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I can agree with that
That’s why you should use several stats in tandem with each other, or at least admit to limitations of the stats you use. Such as I did earlier with GVT and the dmen. Had I more of a clue on what stats TO use in hockey, I would be more inclined to use multiple stats. That said, teams who tend to score a lot… will have better stats…(and better peripherals +- etc etc) GVT. If several stats agree then you can tell a story.. doesn’t mean it’s true but I’d say it’s a correct interpretation of the data.
For sure
I agree with all of that. I still think Hockey is going to be a tough game to ever explain with stats.
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"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
There's a confound between a good team
and good individual stats for me. It’s extremely difficult to separate the two. A lot harder than something like baseball.
Yeah it's just so much
goes into defending well in hockey. All five guys on the ice moving together and covering for each other and switching men and all of that. Not to mention everything that needs to happen well to lead to a goal. There is so much flow to a game it is hard to quantify.
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by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
If you haven't, see VerStig's Fanpost on the subject
A much more lucid explication of this issue than I could muster.
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I wouldn't call it lucid
Plentiful, perhaps, but I get very clunky with words. Hopefully if we talk about it more (and Hawerchuk from BtN added a lot to the discussion) we’ll get a better feel for it.
It's often a conflict of interest thing
People come up with a motivation, and then go digging around for the stats. So the selectivity naturally happens. Few people have the time, patience, and funding to mine lots of data and look for trends without prior motivations.
Or more generally, as Dilbert (paraphrasing Hume, I believe) said...
people do what they want, then they come up with reasons for it.
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If you torture the data enough...
…it’ll confess to anything.
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by cliffkoroll on May 6, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And another thing:
Once you go into that circle, the weather never changes. It is always 67 degrees with a 40% chance of rain
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Single tear
I’m going to go ahead and call this my favorite wrap I’ve read on this site. For so many reasons.
It's my ass. It's huge. Smell it. Focus on it. Stare into it's unending beauty. It will be your undoing.
that game fucking rocked
that is all
I love Marian Hossa and Patrick Kane in totally manly ways. Kinda.
Really?
I know it’s written by a canucks guy but, what a moron!
Outplayed the hawks 7 out of 9 periods? I’d say 3 out of 9, maybe.
strange to call Buff a "nobody" the morning after a hat-trick
ironic, too, considering how huge his body is
(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J
honestly?
take everything that comes out of the Bleacher Report with a grain of salt.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
loves me some Chuck
we coudl get a lotta mileage outta this picture.
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sweet playoff beard.
It's my ass. It's huge. Smell it. Focus on it. Stare into it's unending beauty. It will be your undoing.
thanks
I gotta compensate for my lack of testosterone.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
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by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
This pretty much sums up Vancouver fans...
“When you’re No. 1 line doesn’t score at home that tells you either the opposition goaltender is on his game, or the checking line has shut them down.”
or that the rest of your team lacks some serious depth?
love how they can’t get enough of Big Buff. They seriously think Alberts is gonna move Buff? I still remember one game where Buff shoved THREE Red Wings to the ice with one arm and didn’t even budge. You want more Buff? We’ll give ya more.
I almost forgot I can't afford the bleach that turns collars from blue to white...but I never liked the collar white anyways.
the weird think is that in the comments,
the author basically says he wrote it to get a rise out of people. What an attention-whoring self-troll
by blackhawkeyes on May 6, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Noticed a severe lack of this picture
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by Keith on May 6, 2010 4:29 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I know you guys won't agree
but I would say the same thing if a Canuck player did this at the UC.
Classless.
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"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought he was just doing his graceful figureskating move
in front of the judges bench
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
It might just be me
but I hate when players taunt fans like that. I would be pissed if a Canuck did that.
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"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually
I have to agree with you on this one. I hold Sportsmanship to the highest level.
Even though I understand WHY Buff did this, I expect more from players.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 6, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Reminds me of the Reggie Miller bowing incident
which was repaid (I think by Pippen?). I wouldn’t take it so seriously… I would totally respect the hilarity of it if one of the Canucks did that next game.
Of course, I hope that does not come to pass.
If you want to know how I feel about the whole deal
Listen to Ryne Sandberg’s HOF induction speech. That is me! To me it is and always has been, the name on the front (or logo) of the jersey/sweater is what is important, not the name on the back.
Get off my Land!
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 6, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't that what Buff is doing?
He’s just trying to show everyone in Vancouver what a real NHL jersey and logo should look like.
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by DetroitSucks! on May 6, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually both teams
have nice uniforms. If we want to talk about Ugly uniforms we can start with the Wings.
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by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
no.
Atlanta’s third jersey with the pastel blue and the vertical “Atlanta” on one sleeve and the … wait. hold on, i … oh god i think i threw up in my mouth a little.
I guess if
you really like Red then you would like them. I don’t.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Of the original 6
The only non-cool sweater in my opinion belongs to the Rangers. Of course, I hate all things NY.
FUCK SCUM
I vote that what the Fuck Red Whit and Blue Hab Uni!
Get off my Land!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 6, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
i may go blind
excuse me while i go get some sunglasses
by puppetmasterp on May 6, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
"I can eat fifty eggs."
“Nobody can eat fifty eggs.”
“Why got to go and say fifty eggs for? Why not thirty-five or thirty-nine?”
“I thought it was a nice round number.”
(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J
by meeshak on May 6, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh meeshak, you wild, beautiful thing. You crazy handful of nothin’
www.mjt.org
by ChicoMaki on May 6, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Had to rec both of these
Any of you boys get rabbit in yer blood…
…that’s a night in the box.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
that is a god awful uni
I love Marian Hossa and Patrick Kane in totally manly ways. Kinda.
by jesus christos on May 6, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
About those new Vancouver uniforms...
"Everything I know about life, I learned from my father watching the Blackhawks. It can all be summed up in 2 words, 2 simple words that ring over and over in my memory. Detroit Sucks!!! Detroit Sucks!!!"
by DetroitSucks! on May 6, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
but it's Buff
and somehow that makes it hilarious. I don’t think I’d want to see Toews doing it, but from a known agitator it’s kind of par for the course.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Very good point
Whatever I thought before, I feel like I have to agree with you wholeheartedly here.
Yep
Exactly what I was thinking.
I’m generally against this sort of shenanigans, but when it’s Buff, it’s my favorite thing to see.
Rock Over London
Rock on Chicago
Diet Pepsi
Uh-Huh!
Isn't that the whole idea under the circumstances
Buf takes a lot of abuse from those fans and he is responding in kind (not his normal semi-sleepy persona)
Not ideal conduct but understandable
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Look I understand why
he might want to do it. And I understand that it’s a problem in the modern sports world that isn’t going away. But I hate to see players taunting fans. It was a classless move. Just like the people throwing shit on the ice, at at Buff as you call him, at the end of the game are classless. There is no need for either to ever take place and it bums me out that it does.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
whatever you think of Buff's celebration...
…any moral equivalency to the fans’ reaction is absurd.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
I said both were classless
and both should never happen. I never once compared them in any way.
Is throwing shit on the ice worse? Of course. I believe I am the one who earlier in this thread called the Canucks fans who did it, “drunk idiots who should have been aborted”.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
My sister has
season tickets at GM Place and I used to go to a lot of games when I lived in Vancouver. If there is one thing I can’t stand it’s the majority of the fans at GM Place. The way they react to certain things is loathsome. The guys at NM are much better which is why I hang there.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
True Section. Lower bowl is corporate season tickets who spend most of the game texting people to say they are at it. Upper bowl is a gongshow. I still say we need a middle tier where actual hockey fans can sit.
Shove it in your addendum.
Wouldn't that be nice.....
there is a middle tier at the UC isn’t there? Is that where the SCH crew hangs?
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm cheap
so it’s been 300 level, though I’ve been tempted to shove the rally towel down the throats of the idiots yelling SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT.
Time for some thrillin' heroics!
Biggest pet peeves
are people who yell shoot at the players on the PP. Especially when there is no shooting lane. Then they get mad when the shot gets blocked. The other thing I hear at Nucks games is people yelling “SKATE!!!!!!” at players. Like I am pretty sure they are aware of how to move around on the ice. They are in the NHL after all.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
will you be there Sunday shinkicker?
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
nope
unless the ticket fairy decides to leave one under my pillow.
Which just sounds creepy, actually. I’ll probably be leaning over the arm of the couch and chewing on the rally towel again
Time for some thrillin' heroics!
there hasn't been much lately
But we do plenty of bitching about the people at the United Center too. Stick around and you’ll see it.
Of course
fans giving players the finger or hurling expletives at them or questioning their family heritage after scoring a goal is perfectly fine.
It’s unrealistic to expect players not to respond in kind once in a while when taunts are hurled in their direction.
I personally have no problem with a little give and take between the players and the fans as long it’s relatively tame in nature, which I believe this was.
If you can’t take it then don’t dish it out.
"You don't wanna show me nothin'. But you're tellin' me everything."
Did you see they guy in the stands asking Eager if he wanted to fight?
He was right behind the bench. Big fat ugly Canuck fan who obviously can’t handle his beer.
BFUCF = Big Fat Ugly Canuck Fan
Chewing gum?
Missed that
But you’d have be blind staggers drunk or a moron (no offense intended to morons) to challenge a professional athlete to a fight in the playing arena.
That’s the kind of circumstance where the player just has to ignore it because any kind of a response is going to lead to the situation going bad.
"You don't wanna show me nothin'. But you're tellin' me everything."
Would that be
like these two……..
"You don't wanna show me nothin'. But you're tellin' me everything."
Try and read
everything I wrote about this topic before responding to me. I already called out the fans at GM Place several times for their behaviour during that game.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 7, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Did not mean to offend
And you’re right. I saw some of your other comments after I posted my reply.
I intended my reply to be more of a general repsonse on the topic of the appropriateness of Byfuglien’s display rather than a direct response to you. This just seemed like the spot in the thread to do it.
I still stand by my basic point however. Some displays of emotion by athletes toward the fans are to be expected, but must be proportional to the shit that they get from those fans.
In this particular instance I thought Byfuglien’s response was pretty mild. And if a Vancouver player did something similar at the UC it really wouldn’t bother me, except for the fact that it meant they had just scored. That would suck.
If you’re going to rag on the opposing teams players than you’ve got to have a thick skin when they respond.
"You don't wanna show me nothin'. But you're tellin' me everything."
Well I haven't been ragging
on Byfuglien. And as I have said I understand why he did it. I still don’t like it though.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 7, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry again
I didn’t mean you specifically were ragging on anybody, but rather in the generic sense of fans in general ragging on opposing players. They really should expect, and in many cases I believe want, some type of response.
"You don't wanna show me nothin'. But you're tellin' me everything."
Yeah I know what you mean
but those fans, the ones who want a response, are idiots and therefore shouldn’t be acknowledged. Anyway, I have said my piece on this topic.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 7, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Personally, I agree with you on them being idiots.
The End.
"You don't wanna show me nothin'. But you're tellin' me everything."
In fairness to Buff
the fans were on him all night… I remember seeing a few Nucks flipping him off and screaming and pounding on the class after he scored his first one… the fans were getting on him, and he was doing that to the Nucks as much as he did it to the fans. But I agree, may have been a bit much
Not really classless
More awesomely stupid than anything. Now, pulling a guy’s hair in a line brawl? That’s classless.
(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J
along with pointless cheapshots to the back of the head
Tremendously Tremendous!
by Mr. CheeseHead on May 6, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
with accompanying hair-pull
Signature move?
It's my ass. It's huge. Smell it. Focus on it. Stare into it's unending beauty. It will be your undoing.
foiled
by Bolland’s close-cropped haircut. Muahahah assclown!
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
Is this why Eager is sporting the crew cut? Prophylaxis to the hair-pulling tactic? Maybe he is smarter than we think.
In that case, it begs for the re-opening of the investigation into the intelligence of pocket lint.
Shove it in your addendum.
My mistake. Just don’t wanna see this morph into speculation of Eager being a member of Mensa.
It’s safer for everyone.
Shove it in your addendum.
we often talk in hypotheticals around here
Like, what if Kopecky didn’t fall down 3 times per shift, what if Eager had a functioning brain, etc., etc.
And maybe Burrows wasn't pulling Keith's hair
but was just hoping to “play with his look”
http://www.latenightwithjimmyfallon.com/video/let-us-play-with-your-look-5310/1224723/
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Rec’d ‘cause Fallon’s the schit.
Handsom Men’s Club is still my favourite.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
HAHAHA, I posted a Kimmel vid. Oh well. Laugh at my fail…and the video.
But moreso the video.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
They’re both Jimmies anyway.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Not even stupid
I think it was nice to see Buff show some emotion for a change! I don’t know what he ate for dinner yesterday but he needs to stick to that diet. I’m all for good sportsmanship, 100%, but that goes two ways. If the fans are treating a player as though he’s from Scumtown and he has an emotional response like that I can’t really blame him. I think there is a line but I don’t think Buff crossed it. I think part of Buff’s problem is he’s sort of a gentle giant and just doesn’t get riled up very easily.
As for the hair pulling incident… Classless and completely gutless. Nucks fans should still hang their heads over that.
got into a discussion with a Canucks fan last night
they keep saying Keith fish-hooked Burrows first, so apparently this makes the hair-pulling a defensive move or something.
The problem is that the fish hooking, as far as I’m aware, is something only Canucks fans have taken to believing. Nobody else seems to agree that it happened. Did any of the Canucks players even mention it? You know they would (possibly even if it didn’t happen, like the biting incident), but it helps the Canucks faithful feel better about Burrows, I guess.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the 35 goals
for 2 million a season is making us feel just fine. Hair pulling is classless. Are you trying to argue that because there are players on the Canucks that have done something that is classless that it is OK for Hawks players to do it?
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
not at all
Just bringing up a discussion from last night about where some Canucks fans seem to stand on the hair pulling incident.
I have yet to fully expound on my thoughts on class or lack thereof.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
OK well I am not trying to
start some sort of competition about which team has the least class or has the most classless players. I am not one of those Canuck fans who excuses everything Burrows, or any other Canuck player, does. I wasn’t on board with Burrows for the Auger thing and I took a lot of heat for it at NM. Pulling hair is classless. Throwing shit on the ice is too. And I don’t like what Byfuglien did after that goal. But maybe I am jut old fashioned or something.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Sometimes it's good to be old fashioned
Hey Sec; First thing i want to say is that I like your posts. Too many people are such “homers” that they can’t have a simple discussion on literally anything.
Second, I am a Walter Payton fan so I think the “act like you have been there before” is the way to act after scoring.
Now about Buff, I think he is doing it on purpose. Vancouver is a quality team but they seriously struggle with controlling their emotions. You can beat that team by simply pushing their buttons. Until they keep their tempers in check, I think you will see a lot more taunting of both them and their fans.
Thanks Dale
I think my propensity to balance comes from working in the media. And you make a great point about Byfuglien. He is playing the villain role very well and it is working. Taunting is never OK with me but I understand why he did it.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
neither am I
the comment I made was more like a “speaking of…” interjection than anything actually on-topic.
I think personally, for me, there are different levels of expectation for different players on the team. Like I sort of implied earlier, if this were a Blackhawk other than Byfuglien, I probably won’t be impressed, but I’ve ended up just accepting a few truths about the players on my team— Kane will always act like a 21-year-old, Byfuglien will do whatever he can to agitate the Canucks (and somehow, ONLY the Canucks), Toews is the heart and soul of the team, etc etc. Like that embarrassingly drunk uncle at the family reunion— he’s an idiot, but he’s the family’s idiot.
Which, of course, also explains why Buff’s actions seem to affect you more. You’re from another family with another set of idiots. :P
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i agreed with the different expectations of different players
I was far more concerned about the Keith water-squirting incident vs. the Preds than Buff’s celebration — in large part b/c I quite simply expect more from Keith (both on the ice, and in terms of character).
And yes, bi-polar mood swings are an Achille’s heel, and Buff is banking on it.
by puppetmasterp on May 6, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
At least if the Nucks
lose to the Hawks again this year the flaws with this team will be exposed and changes can be made. Still a lot of hockey left though and I am hoping the Nucks are starting to learn some lessons.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope they don't
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe it's just me
but I thought Keith was sort of goofing with the fan and didn’t mean anything bad by it. It seems out of character for him to get upset by something a fan was saying while he’s in the box. I’m probably just hoping though.
Quote from Keith about the incident
“I don’t think anyone really gets on your nerves when you’re in the penalty box,” said Keith, who said he was having fun with the heckler in Nashville. "It’s kind of funny when they’re talking to you. You can tell they get excited about it.
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
Guess I'm going to date myself here
but, Burrows reminds of another complete douchebag that was a thorn in the side of the Blackhawks for many years (but Burrows doesn’t have anywhere near the talent level), Dino Ciccarelli.
That little pissant would constantly antagonize and stir up shit, but only when he was absolutely sure he wouldn’t have to answer for any of it on the ice. He always made sure there were plenty of his enforcer buddies or officials around when he started his shit so he wouldn’t have to step up and defend himself one-on-one for anything. A real cowardly little fucker.
I always hoped they broke the mold with that little twat (sorry ladies, but my emotions still get stirred up when thinking about that asshole, even all these years later!) but it seems as though Burrows was popped out of the same mold.
"You don't wanna show me nothin'. But you're tellin' me everything."
Why yes, I am.
Heard a good one from a comedien recently (can’t remember who it was. I guess that’s a sign right there.) where he said you know you’re getting old when you go to bed feeling perfectly fine but get up in the morning with something aching. Then you have to explain to your friends that you’re limping because you managed to pull a muscle while you were sleeping!
That happens to me way too often these days.
"You don't wanna show me nothin'. But you're tellin' me everything."
Could someone enlighten me on how Bolland got a game misconduct?
He pretty much got tag teamed by two pussies and didnt retaliate
Tremendously Tremendous!
tag teamed by two pussies
Lucky.
On the Forecheck/Twitter/CLS
"What do you think this is? Major League Baseball?"- Shea Weber
I wish I had the same problem as him!
Get off my Land!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 6, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sure it's already been mentioned in the game threads ...
but did anybody find the singing on the anthems a little strange last night? First, they had a guy who looked like the zombie of Larry Bud Melman sing the U.S. anthem at allegro then he left and a big fat, swarthy looking opera guy comes out for the Canadian national anthem. But he doesn’t just sing it – he stops half way through and lets the crowd take over like it’s the third chorus to Livin’ on a Prayer. Any Canadian who thinks Buff’s showboating was a little distasteful first has to explain this little rock concert anthem trick.
by Billy Charlesbois on May 6, 2010 4:44 PM CDT reply actions
I thought it was kind of cool.
They sing their anthem we yell during ours. Both show the love of their country.
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
Ours, of course, is virtually un-singable
that might impact things a bit
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I like the way the Candians do theirs.
To have an ENTIRE arena of 20,000+ signing their Anthem is awesome. I thought it was incredible watching it before the Gold Medal Game
Get off my Land!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 6, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Check, After the Game
Get off my Land!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 6, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Vancouver's anthem was cool, Cornelison at the UC is awesome...
But nothing will ever, ever top Wayne Messmer at the old Chicago Stadium. Remember the roar?
"Everything I know about life, I learned from my father watching the Blackhawks. It can all be summed up in 2 words, 2 simple words that ring over and over in my memory. Detroit Sucks!!! Detroit Sucks!!!"
by DetroitSucks! on May 6, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought theirs was cool too ...
that’s why I was wondering what the story was because we got the senior citizen’s discount version and they got the rock you like a hurricane version. It was a nice touch though; it added a little extra drama before the puck even dropped
by Billy Charlesbois on May 6, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
that second guy is their usual singer
and having watched a lot of Habs games this year, and one Ottawa game, the butchering of the Star-Spangled Banner’s tempo is fairly normal. i think we Americans grow up hearing the anthem sung at a certain tempo, and this isn’t easily reproduced by someone not raised in our culture.
(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J
First singer was our old singer (old being operative). Richard Lowney.
Letting the crowd sing has been happening for a few years. Every game.
Anthems do get beat up occasionally. It happens. In the LA series the singer read the lyrics off his BlackBerry (while singing).
Thought game one at UC your guy was singing O Canada to the theme of the Russian national anthem. No biggie.
Shove it in your addendum.
Apparently
we are fast drunks.
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on May 6, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the comment in the NM thread was "[US anthem singing dude] singing like he has a plane to catch since forever"
Time for some thrillin' heroics!
That was me!!!!!!
I love Richard Loney. He is my favourite anthem singer. He sings so fast like he has to catch a bus home or something. I don’t need the anthem to be drawn out from a 2 minute song to a 5 minute song to feel patriotic.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
The old guy
is a legend. Richard Loney has been singing anthems at Canucks games since I can remember in the early 80s. He is getting old but I think they still let him do anthems from time to time just cause he means something to older fans. He sings every anthem quickly too. When he used to do both he would go fast on the Canadian one too. Which I like.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Is he a smoker?
Like my old parish priest. Reliable 30-minute mass.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
Ah, that makes more sense ...
At first I thought they had just found some old wine-o at the salvation army, slapped a suit coat on him, and pushed him out on the ice to sing the anthem.
Thanks for clearing it up.
by Billy Charlesbois on May 6, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
they have been doing that forever so its no problem
the crowd singing to them, is our loudness during the anthem at the UC
Tremendously Tremendous!
shit reply fail....
Tremendously Tremendous!
by Mr. CheeseHead on May 6, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I was watching baseball and noticed Giants 1B Pablo Sandoval looks kinda like Buff...
"Everything I know about life, I learned from my father watching the Blackhawks. It can all be summed up in 2 words, 2 simple words that ring over and over in my memory. Detroit Sucks!!! Detroit Sucks!!!"
Why?
Cause black people all look the same. You racist. :)
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Kung Fu Panda!
he’s also of the 200 mumbledy something weight range. &Panda;
Time for some thrillin' heroics!
Sorry if you already covered this
Did anyone hear the Foley rant about the trades and draft picks that were completed to get the kids-o-the corn to Vany?
Those were dark days on Madison.
Mike Smith. FUCK!
The same guys who laughed at my Hawks passion back then, are riding the wagon now.
If you loved the Hawks back then, give Rocky a big AMEN for his work.
McCabe for Potsy. Man did we suffer!
GO HAWKS!
by Everettsanipass on May 6, 2010 5:27 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Foley was great... Eddie kept quiet and let Pat get that off his chest.....
…..“Fabulous Mike Smith”…………
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
by ccm on May 6, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Foley's Karpovtsev Rant
Long time lurker first time poster. Have to recommend Foley’s original rant the day Potsy got traded. Classic.
by thebehnwilsonexperience on May 6, 2010 5:38 PM CDT reply actions
That was EPIC
Wow. That was priceless.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I love Foley
See if you can guess what I am now.
by IndianHeadCrest on May 6, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Welcome
Sit down, grab a drink, and watch the fucking cussing, damnit!
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on May 6, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Been holding this one awhile now...
Browsing a couple of Canuck forums, their fans CONSTANTLY bitch about how they never get any respect. Well, I’ll tell you why you stupid ‘nuck fans. Its because your players, coach and fans don’t respect the game. Alex Burrows is dirty and never answers for what he does. I’ve seen that guy spray goalies and pull hair and do all sorts of other retarded french canadian players do. But at least those guys stay in the trenches and fight the battle that they created. The Sedin sisters do the same. Constantly playing dirty, kicking pucks in the net when they can easily use their stick. Its ridiculous. They have zero respect for the game, always blame their problems on the refs or some other bullshit reason. They’ve never won a stanley cup, yet act like they are a freaking original six franchise.
Maybe if you had a Stanley Cup for every other shit jersey you come out with every 5 years, people would respect you. But no. You’ve been the bane of the NHL’s existence. You rioted when you had the cup “stolen” from you in ’94. You probably would have done the same thing if you lost the Gold Medal game.
In summary, you all suck and are a disgrace to the NHL and those who have come before you. Western Canadian hockey used to be known as the right match of tough and finesse. Now its mostly just cowardice and cheating.
Tis all.
http://www.royalskingdom.blogspot.com
by kcdynasty on May 6, 2010 6:01 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
And you are a disgrace
to this blog.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I generally don't
agree with anyone who says things like, “all Canucks fans are…….” because I don’t like generalizations, generally. I also don’t like the implication that Burrows is a dick because he is French Canadian. He is just a dick cause he is a dick and he had to be to make it to and stay in the NHL. It’s got nothing to do with where he is from.
Otherwise though a well thought out and executed post.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I understood what you were saying
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Here is a tip for you
Those Potato Chips you have been eating that keep appearing on the Window Sill,
They are not Really Potato Chips!
Get off my Land!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 6, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
In his defence he is from
Kansas City. I mean. It’s Kansas City.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
That was a joke
I have no problem with Kansas City.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, i knew that. you should know by now that most things we say on here are tongue-in-cheek.
(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J
Are you saying
Half of what we say is 90% smart ass and the other half in honest Bull shit?
Get off my Land!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 6, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
i'd say 90% of what we say is bull shit
and the other 2/3 is smart ass
(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J
but...
…there’s a significant smart ass/bullshit overlap.
Guh. Another statistical quagmire.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
But it will be made up though!
Get off my Land!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 7, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Comments of the noob/failsauce/facepalm variety.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
No problemo, hombre. Nice sig, by the way.
Working tonight?
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
No. Fourth day off. Back at it tomorrow am. Just gonna run out for a minute then settle in for a hockey fix.
How bout you?
Shove it in your addendum.
Working ’til Saturday. Shoot me please.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
I wish I had known about the 'a' thing sooner
It’s going to revolutionize the way I speak to yoata.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
1 American rec
is worth 1.04 Canadian recs.
by HungryHungryPanda on May 6, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Basically
It’s when you want to argue with someone but realise that you would be better suited arguing with the poster’s cat than the poster him/herself.
Cheers, mate
Just mentioned it in a post down the page somewhere. It went not too badly, thankfully.
this is fucking retarded, and i'm reminded of why i was taking a break from SCH
i’m rec’ing it in the hope that, if it turns green, it can serve as instruction on how not to post here.
(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J
Almost like an inverse rec
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
but i'm not
didn’t even open most of the threads, but somehow got sucked into this one (i’m taking a mulligan on the Perelman BOTD)
(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J
well, you've commented
the last 3 or 4 days at least so I guess “taking a break” means something different to you.
greatly reducing my involvement would be a more accurate description
(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J
oh, and the above was not meant to be snotty
you just kept saying taking a break…every time you posted, so I was a little puzzled.
Can I just say...
…Perleman is the ultimate bad ass beard (I’m inlcuding John Bonham and US Grant here.)
I mean, he’s so fuckin’ badass that his badassery overcomes his recluse/ lives with mom deal. We’re talkng ginormous badassery here.
I just hope SCH had kept some powder-dry, beard-wise.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
Anyone catch the mayoral bet on this series?
Puck Daddy has an article about it. This once again proves that everyone in Vancouver is a classless jerk.
by HungryHungryPanda on May 6, 2010 6:33 PM CDT reply actions
That’s embarrassing.
Although polvoron and boat tarts. Mmmmm.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Mayoral bets are so stupid
Changing the subject, is anyone else watching Habs/Pens? Are Canadiens fans ever happy about anything?
by HungryHungryPanda on May 6, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
They’re mayors. You know the behind the scenes bet is hookers anblow. Courtesy Joe Public.
Shove it in your addendum.
Our governors
Make our mayors look like innocent schoolgirls.
by HungryHungryPanda on May 6, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Schoolgirls?
Where? WHERE DAMMIT?
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Just a couple of things I wanna say
1. Cheers to all my well-wishers from last night. The exam went about as well as I could’ve hoped, and I’m free for the next 2 weeks or so (yay!).
2. Congrats to gmh. I can’t really say anything about her that hasn’t already been said, but she deserves it.
3. Of all the games I had to miss due to exams, why did it have to be that one?
4. Hawks’ record when I leave game early to go to sleep because I really, really need to get up early the next morning: 3-0. Needless to say, if/when this team hits dire straits, I’ll bite the bullet and go to sleep. Hopefully it’ll work…
5. I think everyone will agree with me on this: Go Sharks!
Note
I am aware most of these sentiments are ridiculously late (esp. the one regarding gmh), but this is because I had to go into Uni early today & left at about 8pm, then went out & voted ‘cause it’s the general election today. Out of curiosity, how much coverage are you getting of this in America/Canadaland? Did you even know it was occuring today/at all?
Yeah Gordon Brown is an idiot
the Conservatives are winning and the Lib Dems are doing better than ever? Is that about right?
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not gonna get into a political discussion
because I don’t know to what extent it’s banned on here, and I certainly don’t want to start any arguments on here. That said, you’re more or less right.
Brown isn’t so much an idiot as he is creepy & completely uncharismatic (apart from him calling a woman a bigot while his mic was on & he thought it wasn’t, that was idiotic).
Don’t believe me on the creepy thing? Take a look…
And there are tonnes of pictures of him looking like that (or worse) online. The true creepiness can only be conveyed by video.
That's not creepy
That’s baked as a cake at 4:20 p.m.!!
It's my ass. It's huge. Smell it. Focus on it. Stare into it's unending beauty. It will be your undoing.
I don't know ...
the vibe I get from him runs to the “creepy” – he’s sort of like what you’d have expected of the guy wanking away in the adult theater a few seat over from Pee Wee Herman
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I HATE AMERICAN MEDIA
Very little coverage. They all pounce on the oil spill and Times Square bomber stories, and the Nashville flood, British parliamentary election, even the Greek crisis get under-reported.
Thankfully, there’s very little entertainment news this week, otherwise it would’ve pushed the important stuff even further down the page.
Hahah my household was raised on BBC > CNN.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Yeah, I get all my news from the BBC or Reuters
along with random stuff I pick up from Google News and at work, Bloomberg.
I'm a radio DJ here in Canada
and the news guy just wrapped up his 5 O’Clock news. Greek debt, English elections and all of that. He is good at balancing local stuff with important world stuff.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Gentle reminder
England isn’t the same as Britain. Britain is England, Wales, NI & Scotland. As all these countries are involved, it’s the British election.
I know you don’t mean any harm, but, as a Canadian, you’d find it annoying if we included Canada in our definition of “America”.
I am an English citizen
so I know all about the differences. And I really think you guys get too caught up in what we call you.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough
Didn’t know you were English. Wasn’t trying to be a dick or Geography Nazi or anything, it’s just that I don’t think you can have an idea of just how annoying it is unless you’re Scottish/Welsh/Northern Irish.
My grandmother
was Irish her husband Welsh. My dad was born in England.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't ever call
1) the Scots or the Irish “English”
2) the Canadians “Americans”
3) the Pakistani’s “Indian”
…unless you’re hoping someone will pick a fight with you. These are among the few lessons of my childhood.
by puppetmasterp on May 7, 2010 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions
You can call me American all you want
I really don’t find there are that many differences between us and Americans. But then I don’t find a lot of differences between people from any part of the world. For the most part the vast majority of people in this world are caring and friendly. And I don’t define myself based on some arbitrarily drawn lines on a piece of paper. But that’s just me.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 7, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't get me started
on Nationalism. I think it’s ridiculous. I am proud that I am from Vancouver which I think is a pretty tolerant city and it’s beautiful there. But not so proud I would fight over it. Or kill someone. Every City I have ever been to I have liked and found the people to be wonderful. From Seattle to Vegas to Edinburgh and London. I want to go more places but I suspect I will find wonderful people wherever I go.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 7, 2010 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
One caveat though
There are cases where lines have been misdrawn (or are impossible to draw) and while violence is wrong regardless, it is understandable that people would be angry and clamor for their own nation as a form of “nationalism” (in the absence of a better idea, I suppose).
You’re right though — there may be cities with a reputation for being “nicer” (some deservedly so, on an average basis) but nice people really are everywhere to be found.
I know that people say Canadians
are friendlier. But I have spent a tonne of time in the US and find the majority of Americans to be very friendly. If you nod at people or say Hi in passing on the streets the do the same. I just don’t thinks it part of the culture to talk to other people on the streets where it kind of is here. That doesn’t mean we are any nicer of friendlier though.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 7, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
You make a good point
It’s not that I dislike the English, or don’t want to be grouped in with them or anything like that.
I can’t really explain why it annoys me. I kind of want to say it’s because it feels like you’re disrespecting me by refusing to acknowledge where I’m from, but that makes me sound like a dick; besides, I’m not “proud” to be Scottish the same way lots of other people are.
I suppose it’s just the pernickity bastard in me, like I’d correct you if you got the capital of Sweden wrong or something.
Anyway, can we kill this conversation? I really want it to die…
England and Scotland are awesome
Loved the time I spent in both, and London is the bomb.
Get off my Land!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 6, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Just don't say
Bomb when in the middle of London.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
When I was there one time
the song “Sex Bomb” was being played in every club almost non-stop in Piccadilly Circus!
Get off my Land!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 6, 2010 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I kind of agree with you
The BBC is the king of reporting, in my opinon. There are a few niggles; they’re required to be neutral, so even if one party leader destroys another in a debate they have to make it seem fairly even, but it’s better than what you have (no offense) where news networks basically say whatever they want and skew stories however they can.
But with the election being the biggest story of the year, nothing else is being reported. I only found out about Nashville because I watched Olbermann online a few days ago. Hadn’t heard of it anywhere else, and it seemed as though it hadn’t really been reported anywhere else in America either.
Motto change
Did you guys notice what the founding fathers and daughter changed our motto to at the top of the page?
If the booze doesn’t kill us, Kris Versteeg will
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
Yeah I caught that earlier
Just thought I was late to the party in noticing it
Get off my Land!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 6, 2010 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I noticed
poured me a rum and thought about it for awhile. I like it.
It's my ass. It's huge. Smell it. Focus on it. Stare into it's unending beauty. It will be your undoing.
A Letter to the Hawks about Game 4
For the last 55 minutes of Game 2 and 60 minutes of Game 3, you guys kicked ass, took names, gave them to Buff and let him shove them straight up LU’s ass, which is awesome!
Do not stop now. This Nucks team is a very very good Hockey Team, do not take your foot off of their throats, and let them breath life back into their hopes. Press harder in Game 4, reach down and rip that hope right out of their hearts, let the whole arena gasp in silence. If you let this team up, they can and will bend YOU over and they will have their way with you. Crush them.
This Series is only 2-1, you already know how safe that is against a good team. Go out and there find and destroy their soul to make it 3-1, and still do not let up, even that is not safe. This is now YOUR series to win, but is also YOURS to lose, don’t tempt fate. They will adjust, and they will come out flying, shooting, hitting and crashing. Let them do it but on your terms not theirs, and than return that intensity in kind, with goals straight through the Collective Heart of Nuck Nation.
One Team
One Goal
Get off my Land!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 6, 2010 6:57 PM CDT reply actions
FRANZEN WITH FOUR GOALS IN THE PERIOD.
ARE YOU JOKING ME.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Helping my pool!!!!!!
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I just heard that
had to rewind my tv to make sure I wasn’t losing my mind. All in the first half of the first period.
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
lots of game left
maybe he will get a few more – we did say earlier we wanted their series to last longer
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
Yeah, I know
I"m on the fence – end in 4, let SJ sit and get fat and lazy while waiting for this series to finish or end in 7 and let them fight to the death and have the winner limp into the Finals with some momentum.
I had thought about them sitting around too
I don’t know which would be worse – having more time off and getting out of a rhythm or playing high stakes hockey where you stay in your rhythm and are just as tired as your next opponent.
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
When was the last time that happened, and in less than 6 minutes!
Get off my Land!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 6, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
It only taned a 1000 points at one point today
but somewhat recovered to only 300+ point loss.
Get off my Land!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 6, 2010 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Taned?
Is this a typo, or do I understand less than I thought about stock markets?
I’m not being smart, I am actually very confused…
Typo
“Tanked”
Get off my Land!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 6, 2010 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Calling out Niemi over on NM?
You have the world class goalie that is supposed to bounce back after losing, especially at home…. wait.
Luongo whines more that Glenn Beck.
Please guys don’t be overconfident, go out and play the same as games 2 and 3.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on May 6, 2010 7:08 PM CDT reply actions
Who is calling out Niemi?
Provide a link please. From what I have been reading it’s more a case of wanting our team to put more pressure on him to see how he responds.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Saying he hasn't proven anything?
Get your head out of your ass. Meeshak pointed it out earlier as I have just seen. He was worked and when he wasn’t I’ll credit that to the defense for shutting it down.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on May 6, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Who said he hasn't proven anything?
And in what context? Cause he really hasn’t proven anything in terms of proving he can carry a team on a long playoff run. And before you even start I know the same can be said of Luongo. I’m just saying you having a go at NM without providing any examples or any context.
And my head is firmly out of my ass. The VAST majority of the saves he made yesterday were routine. He made one or two very good saves and the rest were just being in position and having the puck hit him. I’m not taking anything away from him by saying that. I am not saying he is a bad goalie. I’m just saying he didn’t stand on his head. And the Nucks still haven’t challenged him the way they need to.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I disagree.
The first 7 to 8 minutes they got some great chances. He is a rookie, I understand. He can implode as we all saw in game 1. Sorry, wrong verbiage saying proven. Yeah he isn’t an “amazingly hot goalie” but two shutouts (albeit against the Preds) and holding a team with as much offensive punch as the Canucks I’ll take it.
I envy your optimism because over here I’d be shitting myself if my all-star goalie laid an egg at home, my Swedish slayer top line hasn’t produced much, the Hawks big stars aren’t producing yet they put up 3 goals and 5 goals, and my defense may be the worst if not second worse.
The Hawks are up 2 to 1, I see this going 7 games. I still lack optimism despite the last two games.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on May 6, 2010 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I really don't think Luongo
laid an egg to be honest. He let out a few rebounds but seemingly everyone he let out ended up right on a Hawk stick. But if you shoot hard and low and through traffic there are going to be rebounds no matter who the goalie is. The Canucks D just needs to do a better job of controlling the front of their own net.
And what’s the point if your not optimistic and having fun?
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
See
living in Chicago you just expect failure amongst your sports teams. They have ruined my psyche.
I am a Cubs fan, that should explain a lot.
I saw a few guys commenting on the overly confident Hawks/fans, that shit SCARES me.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on May 6, 2010 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm a Cub fan too
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
But do you endure it live
everyday?
And woo go Cubs, about to get swept by the Pirates. Le sigh.
Are you a Cubs fan from Vancouver?
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on May 6, 2010 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah we get WGN here
always have. Haven’t been to Wrigley yet. But I am going to Seattle in June. I watch about 100 games a year on MLB.tv
Including today’s “game”.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
haha
parenthesis on the game, good call.
Safeco, Bradley/Cubs oh my!
Should be a good one, hopefully Aramis returns from the dead and the Cubs actually get hits with runners in scoring position someday.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on May 6, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey anything's possible
I’m torn this year between thinking this team could be good and hoping they tank and Hendry gets canned.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
There is that optimism again
Damn you!
I hope Hendry is gone. Alf maybe hot now but his contract, Zs contract, etc. GTFO, terrible.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on May 6, 2010 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Cubs fan here
I’m always waiting for the other shoe to drop.
I do not think this Hawks team has over-confidence, but very good confidence they can do it.
Get off my Land!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 6, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope that is the case
Otherwise I will be pissed tomorrow if the Hawks get their dicks knocked in the ice.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on May 6, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually
I kinda hope they do. This will open the ice up more for longer outlet passes, and probably a few more 1-0 breakaways. If the Nucks do this and Niemi plays like Niemi, I like the odds of the Hawks getting more chances 1-0 or 2-1 on LU over what the Nucks may gain in goals.
Get off my Land!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 6, 2010 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
It's so frustrating
that we can’t get the DET/SJ game. It’s an elimination game, and we’re stuck with the damn Pens.
Crosby
sells.
So does crack in shithole sections of inner cities though
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on May 6, 2010 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
http://atdhe.net/18861/watch-san-jose-sharks-vs-detroit-red-wings
by gmh on May 6, 2010 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks
I may switch, but I have an HD tv and a smaller computer screen so it’s more the idea of having to get a feed that peeves me.
Franzen for double hattrick!
Ever been done before?
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Not even SJ can blow a potential 3-1 lead…right/
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
Wouldn't it be just like the Scum
to piss us all off and pull off the comeback of the playoffs
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
5 Goal Lead
The most dangerous in Hockey?
Get off my Land!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 6, 2010 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh I think Franzen has a few more in him
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
Only for the Flamers
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
um, comeback of the century
you do realize it happens less than 1% of the time, right?
(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J
uh god not this shit again
because, yeah, sure, hockey teams and their results are completely random occurences
(170 g) * (3x10^8 m/s)^2 = 1.5x10^16 J
No worries
We seem fairly similar (I got your sig almost immediately) and I can almost always tell when I’m joking, so you shouldn’t be too much of a stretch.
Funny stuff
and I can almost always tell when I’m joking
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
by burpchelischili on May 7, 2010 4:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Bob McKenzie tweets:
Darren Dreger reporting now on TSN that NHL concedes last Chi goal last night should have been disallowed due to goalie interference.
Not late, at all. Hahaha.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
It really didn't affect the outcome
anyway. It’s annoying but not really any harm done.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
wow, really?
I’ve never seen the NHL admit they were wrong before.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
do we trust a tweet?
Did the NHL make an official statement somewhere?
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
Bob McKenzie is a TSN analyst.
He just tweeted that they gave Franzen’s first goal to Bert. “Just” a hattrick now :)
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
We trust Bob McKenzie
he is one of the most respected hockey experts in Canada.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
depends on who tweets it
Bob McKenzie and Darren Dreger are usually legit.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I missed that it said it was from Darren Dreger
I have learned to be leery of where my hockey info comes from.
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
which is a LOT better than not
Wasn’t it a mainstream media outlet that thought that Facebook thing from Wellwood and O’Brien about a deep dish pizza tour in Chicago was true?
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah. shameful.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Not that it mattered a ton. I was the fifth goal. Just nice to know that shit didn’t suddenly become acceptable with nobody knowing about it. I couldn’t handle another addendum.
Shove it in your addendum.
That comment had two addendums too many for my daily addendum intake.
Funny word to say on repeat. Look what you’ve done.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
you guys can expect a couple of makeup calls
nothing about conspiracy theories, mind, just the usual NHL system of trying to atone for a mistake by making more.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I think
that’s how Atlanta got their team.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hah! rec'd
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
just the usual NHL system of trying to atone for a mistake by making more
Scary accurate.
Shove it in your addendum.
unfortunately
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
/\ Groans
Sad, but true. I just hope the Hawks can overcome it, and not let momentum shift. Hopefully the fact it was not a deciding goal helps.
Get off my Land!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 6, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure. Now I’m the bad guy.
Take out your low addendum tolerance in me. I can handle it.
Shove it in your addendum.
You’re naughty.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
get a room
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too."
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on May 6, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Should i be jealous?
I thought we had a thing going on here.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Hahah, the guy said “in me”
No need for a room. I have to go to work anyway. Go Franzen.
Later guys, thanks for having me.
"I was thinking it would be cool to see a game on the road. I have been looking all over this atlas but I don't see Vancouver anywhere. What state is this sh*t in!?"
- Dallas Stars Forum
hmmm…*on me.
Have fun. Guess Section and I will have to get a room.
Shove it in your addendum.
by kesrows on May 6, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Luongo accused of flopping by officials
Not sure if this was posted already. I was googling to see if i can find anything on NHL conceding the officiating error and this came up. Couldn’t believe what AV had to say about it: “If there’s one guy that I know who doesn’t dive and doesn’t embellish, it’s Roberto Luongo,”
by hawkswin!hawkswin! on May 6, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
What else is he going to say?
He is the guys coach. He can’t call him a diver. That’s a non-story. You can’t take anything a coach says at face value.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough
I just found it interesting that officials called him out on it
by hawkswin!hawkswin! on May 6, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
He embellishes sometimes
but can you blame a guy for it after that horrible non-call last night? If I was an NHL player I wouldn’t trust the Refs to get the calls right and I would feel like I needed to help them.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
No offense
but do other goalies in the NHL feel the need to embellish as much as he does? And that missed call was on the 5th goal at the end of the game. there was plenty of flopping earlier.
Are you familiar with the guy who does the Goalie Guild? He’s on twitter @TheGoalieGuild and is pretty impartial on all goalies. He mentioned the embellishment as well.
No offense
but the frequency that other goalies dive isn’t really an issue for me. My argument is the same. If Luongo doesn’t feel like he gets protected, for whatever reason and rightly in the case of some calls this series, then he is going to make sure the Refs see it. Hasek, Roy, Brodeur they all do it. Maybe Luongo is just trying to be like his heroes?
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
you said NHL players
are right not to trust the refs to get the calls right and it seemed you were justifying the embellishment with that. My question is, if that’s really a good reason to embellish, why don’t other goalies do it as often? I’m also not saying others don’t, just that he is more known for it.
Also, the Canucks talked about goalie interference calls almost even before the series started – how could they think the refs wouldn’t be looking for it?
Not justifying it
I hate diving and embellishing. But the standard of reffing in the NHL is as poor as it’s ever been and I don’t think the players trust the Refs to make the right calls. So they embellish because it works. Understandable. But I hate it.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 6, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
there is a real "art" to diving and flopping - the trick isn't to explode suddenly
the trick is to look like you tried valiently to stay on your feet, and overcome the foul
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Ok, I don't like it either
I’m just not sure I see that other players don’t trust the refs as much as you’re saying, but it’s possible I don’t watch enough non-Hawks hockey to see it.
It just seems very counterproductive
Luongo isn’t getting calls → Luongo flops -→ Refs notice flopping —> Luongo isn’t getting calls -→ Luongo flops —→ it is the song that never ends
Time for some thrillin' heroics!
Understand...
…that this has nothing to do with Wednesday and everything to do with tonight.
With one hand, AV and Lu have announced that Vancouver will “test” Nemo.
Over here with the other hand, there’s a campaign to bring the Hawks to justice wrt their own “goonery”.
Third hand- Lu is not a flopper.
I’ve never seen a more clear telegraphing of intent and conscious, elaborate lobbying and positioning wrt officiating. This is not how I would want my team approaching this game. Napoleon must be laughing up his sleeve.
But what do I know? Maybe the Nucks blow the Hawks outta the building tonight.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
How safe is a 6 goal lead with 13:00 left in the second?
Get off my Land!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 6, 2010 7:50 PM CDT reply actions
damn MTL just pulled ahead 3-2
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
Cool
Get off my Land!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on May 6, 2010 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Their fans are rabid
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
Did anyone else notice that the Hawks were trying to go Old Tyme Hockey on us last night? Hossa was out there for a whole shift without a lid, and moments later Kopecky was skating around helmetless as was Buff.
" Luongo...
checks under his bed every night to make sure Byfuglien isn’t there." - SteveFrench
Is the altitude much different in Canada?
I thought maybe all of their heads shrank or something. Many of the Hawks couldn’t keep their helmets off. It was Old Tyme Hockey out there.
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
Hossa even dove for a puck while lidless, the man’s got balls of steel and it’s only a matter of time before he gets himself a hatter.
" Luongo...
checks under his bed every night to make sure Byfuglien isn’t there." - SteveFrench
by anActiveStick on May 6, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Hossa
Is a bad ass mofo.
I find it odd how Pens/Wings fans called him out his last two playoff seasons if he played as balls out as he has this year.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on May 6, 2010 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Hossa
was a force to be reckoned with when he played for the Pens. He almost, almost managed to get a goal in the last seconds of game 6 to force a game 7. Had the Penguins won that year, or even forced a game 7, Hossa was a fairly good candidate for Conn Smythe.
I hate talk of his “curse” or him being a playoff dud. Total lies.
My wife has hired two new people in the last week and they're BOTH Pens fans
They also both love Marian Hossa. They’re very knowledgeable hockey fans and they hate that Hossa gets as much shit as he does.
by HungryHungryPanda on May 6, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
man I don't think any lead is necessarily safe this year in the playoffs
I went to a fight the other night and a hockey game broke out.
- Rodney Dangerfield
Really Sharks?
You’re going to goon it up? that’s a dumbshit move when down by 5
Time for some thrillin' heroics!
I didn't know
Thonrton was such a shit stain.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on May 6, 2010 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
the scene in the 3rd period with 4 sharks just sitting in the box putting scum on a 4minute
makes you believe these Sharks are capable of shitting themselves for four straight. This is just not a team of winners (besides pavelski and marleau. those dudes can get it done). i can see scum winning three more against these fools. not that i want to see that happen by any means but…Nabokov? Throton? playoff losers that showed their true selves last night.
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
Not the first time...
Guess who they were playing when this happened:
That’s 1, 2, 3, 4, 5… 6 Sharks in the box!
I agree
Nabakov has given up 14 goals in ten periods. Wow.
I don’t think the Wings will win four in a row, nor do I want them to but if they did I wouldn’t be shocked in the least. I lost respect for the Sharks. I hope Scum loses but I want them to beat the shit out of these guys for whoever (hopefully the Hawks) get them in the conf. finals
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on May 7, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
sorry - I just don't see the Sharks losing 3 straight now (choking history notwithstanding)
but if they now go on to lose another 2 straight, I’ll likely revise my opinion
Confusion will be my epitaph.
3 straight does seem far-fetched...
…but I could see Scum winning game 5…
…and game 6…
…and game 7.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
Tonight
All of the hand wringing and gnashing regarding what the other team is going to do or not do.
When teams try to play a style that is different than what they normally do, usually it ends in epic failure.
My experiences in sports and certain aspects of life tell me the one who is talking the most is the one who is full of shit.
Just go play the fucking hockey game.
Chewing gum?
Very true, but
Couldn’t you argue that the ‘Hawks are playing a different game today (and certainly against the Preds, which is what they may have internalized) than they did earlier in the regular season? I think people have been commenting on how we’re less aggressive and more solid fundamentally than before. Maybe not a wholesale change, but I’d say they’ve successfully adapted their style a bit.
Totally agree on the talk though. You talk too much if you feel like you’re not getting it done on the ice.
I think the main difference with the Hawks style now is the defemsemen (or defencemen for you garbage throwers)
Less O coming from the defensemen. More stay at home and take care of business, and let the goal scorers score goals. I like it better this way. They are feeding of Seabrook. It also helps considerably when a player like Brian Campbell is playing. Seriously, that guy is good.
Chewing gum?
there's moderately adjusting your own inherent style to address the other's stengths/weaknesses (good)
and then there’s wholesale changing your style to address some grand angst that’s taken hold (bad)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
by krome on May 7, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Lost in all this
Was the fantastic 1st period that the Canucks played against us… if it weren’t for Niemi totally stoning all of their chances and us getting a couple of cheap goals, the story could be quite different.
To me it’s more like they got frustrated and lost their cool, which naturally led to a different style of play. I think AV’s changes were just in response to Eager and Burish, and things just got out of hand for him.
good point - except for the "cheap goals" part
tench warfare rebound goals are not “cheap goals”. Granted, they are not “pretty” and don’t make the “top 10 of the week” highlight reel, but they are perfectly legitimate and respectable (even if they don’t get you laid by the puck bunnies).
Phil Esposito is a Hall of Famer due to goals just like that – and they weren’t accidents, it was a strategic thing. I saw those goals Wednesday as being the result of a deliberate, modest but well executed shift in the Hawks tactics based upon a reasoned analysis of the other team’s strengths and weaknesses so as to maximize the Hawks’ chances of scoring.
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Maybe "dirty goals" is a better term
I didn’t mean to invalidate their effectiveness, but it’s like dirty boxing — not quite like landing a solid right hook, but just as effective. Or, what you said.
It's more effective
When the other team feels like they are beating you, and yet they are still losing 5-2.
It’s this slow burn that causes teams with weak psyche’s to collapse
Chewing gum?
It's about time this happened to us
How many times have we dominated zone play only to emerge from the first period down a goal or two?
I call them ugly goals
But it doesn’t matter what they look like as long as the goal ends up on the scoresheet
Time for some thrillin' heroics!
by shinkicker on May 7, 2010 10:22 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
If it goes up as a goal on the scoreboard - it looks light a laserbeam shot on the scoresheet
A had a couple of big, burly strong kids that I coached who started out, like every other young player, wanting to be the fancy player who scored pretty goals – I spent a lot of time with them getting them to understand – and embrace – their actual gifts, instead of chasing fantasies.
One took to it so well that by the end of his youth hockey days other coaches were specifically adjusting their game plans to try to stop this guy from pounding all those goals in from the crease (and to try to protect their own D from getting crushed in the corners). He got to play in all-star games.
It is good, honest, ‘blue-collar’ hockey. It is hard and it isn’t pretty. But it often wins.
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Heh, except for jumping into the play
I saw Hjammer walk in down the slot against the Preds, and this series I’ve seen Soupy look like a 4th forward a couple of times and Seabrook score that goal.
But, you’re probably right, relative to the regular season, it’s less.
before this series and Seabrook deciding to kill people
was Hjammer having the best post-season out of our D? he has been awesome. good to see him back with soupy. seems like hes getting under the nucks skin as well as samuelson wasted his efforts post whistle quite a bit on #4.
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
He was never on the ice for a preds goal
That entire series. Jelly’s been on fire
Time for some thrillin' heroics!
by shinkicker on May 7, 2010 10:25 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Seabrook did score a timely goal
You can tell his main focus is making people pay for bringing the puck into his territory though. Would you go near him right now? His area is covered, Keith does not need to worry about it, and he can do his thing in his area. Same goes for Campbell and Hammer. Sopel and Hendry? I’m just glad when the puck crosses the blueline, but they are getting the job done thus far, so I’m not complaining.
Anybody watch the Pitt MTL game? That Subban guy is hard to watch. He’s like all world on second and then the next he looks horrible. I’ll take our guys over that shit any time.
Chewing gum?
Great article on Big Buff
Byfuglien Causing Grief in Crease
Some choice cuts:
It’s why, both this year and last, he has been the biggest, baddest, most-talked about presence in the second-round. He inhales Vancouver, exhales goals. He isn’t a thorn in the Canucks side, he’s the tree stump they can’t move.
Heh. More…
Byfuglien isn’t sleeping on the ice. He’s playing like a forklift. Motivation may have been a problem earlier in his career, but it’s not against Vancouver. He’s the enemy at the crease and he’s thriving.
And more….
This is what we call deja vu. The 250-pound power forward, who quit hockey at age 15 to go ice fishing, is again causing havoc and helping to create an odd juxtaposition. There are two different games happening at the two ends of the rink. One team is playing rugby, the other is at the ballet.
“Chicago is not a better team than us,” Luongo declared. "They are not playing better than us. They’re just doing a better job in front of the net on both sides.
‘’Dustin is doing a good job. What he’s doing, he’s not getting called for it."
And on a side note, the more McRebound speaks, the more I loathe his whiny ass. They’re doing a better job in front of the net on both sides? Way to call out your teammates asshole. How about not giving up so many rebounds? Clearing the net wouldn’t be a problem if you weren’t overrated, now would it? Take the blame for playing poorly and stop being an Anti-Captain and for the love of God and all that is holy stop fucking whining about non-calls. Play the game.
Honestly, Sweet Lu isn’t a hockey player, he’s a psycho bitch Diva.
If we win this series, I’m really going to relish it.
Buff's Goal Pace
In the past two seasons, the Canucks and Blackhawks have played nine post-season games. The Hawks have scored 33 goals. Byfuglien has been on the ice for 40 per cent of them, and has scored five.
Those are some significant numbers for a player who has 55 goals in 260 regular season games.
If you take Buff’s 5 goals in the 9 playoff games this equates to scoring 54-55 goals in a season. It also equals his career amount.
No wonder he drives us crazy.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Really Luo?
I thought the Hawks passing, shooting, net presence, goaltending, defense, special teams were a hell of a lot better than your teams, yet they are the better team?
So how can he back this up? Yeah Lu you are right, the Nucks are the better team when the Hawks fall flat like in game 1. What a shit stain. I wonder what Broduer said when his team got exited from round 1 the last three years? I bet he didn’t blame his defense for giving up the rebounds that came off his chest and glove.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on May 7, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, we're not the prettier team (shit, we have Sopel fer cryin out loud!) and we aren't playing fancier - but we've won 2 of 3
What exactly is “better hockey” in the playoffs, in the mind of Bobby Lu?
Isn’t it being the team that wins 4 games, no matter precisely how you get it done?
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Toews, Keith, and Seabrook should wear the gold medals on the ice tonight
So Luongo remembers why he has one.
Chewing gum?
You guys are taking this the wrong way
what is Luongo supposed to say in this situation? He is the Captain, stupidly if you ask me, but he is the Captain. And he is trying to give his team confidence. Chicago is a better team and have been better so far. I know it, you know it and everyone else watching knows it. But he can’t say that.
And the last line about Byfuglien I don’t think should be taken as Luongo whining. I think he is simply saying that Byfuglien is doing a good job of getting to the front of the net and disturbing the goaltender without getting called for anything. In other words he is doing his job very well. And the Canucks need to find a way to combat that.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 7, 2010 1:38 PM CDT reply actions
The only time the better team is determined
is when that fourth game is won by one of the teams.
And that only means they were the better team in that series.
Which team that will be in this series is yet to be determined and still very much in question.
Obviously this thing could still go either way.
We at SCH all think it will be the Hawks. Those in Vancouver think it will be the Canucks. Either way, it sure is going to be fun for us fans who get to watch or be at the games!
"You don't wanna show me nothin'. But you're tellin' me everything."
I think you'll find
there are a lot of fans in Vancouver jumping off the bandwagon since game 3. A lot. I am not sure who I think will win to be honest. I know who I want to win. But my heart doesn’t hold any sway over my head. And my head still isn’t sure.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 7, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I think many fans feelings and confidence
swing from one extreme to the other much more than the athletes themselves.
I’m sure the Canuck players are still absolutely confident that they will prevail in this series, just as I’m sure the Hawk players lost no confidence in their belief that they would win after Game 1.
If these players aren’t stepping on the ice with absolute confidence in their ability to defeat the opponent then they have no business playing professional hockey.
The fans on the other hand, that’s a different story. Many of us (myself included at times, although i am getting better a keeping an even keel) tend to believe we’re destined to raise the cup after every win or be sent packing for an early summer with every loss.
"You don't wanna show me nothin'. But you're tellin' me everything."
I think it helps if one played (or coached) and went through the 'ups and downs' a bit
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I played most of my life
but that has not buffered my emotional ups and downs as a fan.
To Nextgame: You feel you’re destined to raise the cup after every win? Really? Man, you must be very young… I stopped feeling that way after the Cubs and Hawks broke my young heart in ’69 and ’71.
Not young at all
I posted elsewhere in this thread about Dino Ciccarelli and you called me old!
(Boy, I’m going to have to invest in more Grecian formula and Top coverage.)
I definitely have my emotional ups & downs when rooting for the hometown teams, but not nearly as extreme as in years past.
I’m as jaded a Chicago sports fan as there is. My motto for our teams is: ’I’ll believe it when I see it."
The ’raise the cup" comment was just a bit of hyperbole.
"You don't wanna show me nothin'. But you're tellin' me everything."
I suggested this elsewhere - but the way to do this is
They’re a great team [note: not “better” or “worse”] and this is going to be a tough series, but I really believe in this team. We’re a great team too. And if we pull together and play well, I think we can do this.
Respectful of the opposition – not any bulletin board material – and expressing confidence in your team.
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I ha ve said it before and I will say it again
the whole “bulletin board material” thing is a myth. Team’s pay very little attention to what the other guys are saying. And having been around hockey teams a lot I can tell you that if a player needs that extra motivation from something someone said about them, then they are going to take even the most innocuous quote and convince themselves it’s a slight against them and their team.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 7, 2010 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
There's a difference between
a reporter telling a player what the other guy said and a player actively trying to find out what’s being said about them.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 7, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
No where in your comment
do you mention it mattering where the info comes from. I would bet the majority of the time, reporters are the ones who tell the other team what is being said.
There is no question that Kane used Mitchell’s comments as a little extra motivation but he hardly has a history of needing innocuous quotes to motivate himself.
he wouldn't be in the NHL if he did need that motivation
especially at such a young age and being the captain. I just know from spending a lot of time with hockey teams at various levels, because of my job, that the use of quotes as motivation is not nearly as prevalent as the media might make it seem.
And I don’t think it does matter where the info comes from. Most of the time when a media guy brings up a quote or a comment that some other player said or made it gets ignored. The players really don’t care. That’s why I was so pissed that Nuck fans were making such a big deal about Kane’s comment after game 1 that was really much ado about nothing.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 7, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess it depends on the source and the comment
Kane really used that comment from Mitchell though. You could tell in post game interviews he was still kinda pissed about it.
Also, which quote after game 1 are you referring to? And Toews is captain, not Kane, though both are young and ridiculously self-motivated. Makes me wonder what the hell I was doing at 21.
Yeah for some reason
I read Toews when you clearly wrote Kane. Must still have that Mitchell hit on Toews from earlier in the year stuck in my brain.
Kane said after game 1 something along the lines of the Hawks not being ready and maybe thinking it would be an easy series. It was a nothing comment that Canuck fans were feigning outrage over.
"We love them, We mourn for them, Unlucky boys of Red" - Morrissey
"Giggs gets past Viera, past Dixon, who comes back at him, it's a wonderful run from GIGGS!!!" - Martin Tyler
"He's got a man deep..wait, no that IS Mandeep!!" - Don Taylor
by Section 312 on May 7, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
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