Model Citizen, Zero Discipline - News & Notes
Many apologies for not posting as frequently as we had leading up to Game 6, but we've all been admittedly Cup Drunk for a while now, and I hardly think anyone can be blamed for that. Additionally, it's relatively slow news-wise around here lately. That will likely change this week, as the awards show and draft are later in the week, and free agency is right around the corner. Since the dawn of the cap era, draft day has meant a lot of movement around the league, and given the Hawks are dry humping the cap already, expect something to happen then, if not before. We'll have all kinds of reaction for anything that happens shortly after it does, even if it's just them making the 30th pick.
We've also got other plans in the works for the summer, such as player report cards, a podcast that should penetrating your ear holes by the end of the week or so, as well as a few other things that we're currently working on. And we mustn't forget that the Stanley Cup Champion commemorative edition of The Committed Indian will be emailed and snail-mailed later today. Aside from that, here are some other thoughts that have been rattling around in my otherwise empty skull:
- The Hawks have been formally asked to participate in Chicago's annual Gay Pride Parade next weekend. Personally, I think they should do it, it would be a fantastic gesture toward a largely ignored sect of the hockey fan base, and promote acceptance elsewhere among fans, provided the Cup and players are not booked elsewhere already. However, now that that request has been made public, I feel like the Hawks now kinda have to participate at the risk of looking insensitive if they do not. I'm fairly confident that McDonough will find a way to properly traverse this PR tight rope, and I'm also fairly confident that the sight of Bryan Bickell in nothing but roller skates, a feather boa, and a banana hammock would be enough to turn Paul Lynde into Gene Simmons.
- Jaroslav Halak was traded to the Blues (or at least his rights were). It's a smart pickup for the Blues, who saw a somewhat aging and only slightly above average Chris Mason facing unrestricted free agency. The Blues didn't have to lose any roster players in the deal, though prospect Lars Eller, whom they sent to Montreal, is pretty highly regarded in scouting circles. I'm not entirely sure why Montreal chose Cary Price over Halak with both of them looking at restricted free agency, as I think that Halak is the steadier goaltender, but more than likely his contract demands coming off a sparkling playoff run have something to do with it. Halak will make things tougher on the Hawks within the division, but as long as the Blues have Cam Janssen, B.J. Crombeen, and any number of other shitbags running around trying to put Hawk skaters into the second balcony taking moronic penalties, I'm not too concerned, as even with Halak, the Hawks are still better at hockey.
- Elsewhere in the division, those pesky Nashville Predators are getting a pretty thorough makeover. In addition to changing their sweaters (AGAIN), they've also dealt away the rights of Dan "I've got Kaner taken care of" Hamhuis and captain Jason Arnott to the Flyers and Devils respectively, both of whom were looking at unrestricted free agency. While it's certainly shrewd on GM David Poile's part to get back anything (even if it is Ryan Parent and is 12 seconds of SCF ice time) for players he knows he's not going to sign, one has to wonder what he has planned on doing to reload his overachieving squad in free agency. This also sets the stage for Shea Weber to assume the captaincy (which he deserves) in Smashville. In acquiring (and presumably signing) Hamhuis, the Flyers bolster an already very solid blue line, even if signing him does mean losing the charred remains of Braydon Coburn due to cap constraints via offer sheet, as he is restricted himself. As for Arnott, he'll be headed back to the Devils, in whose uniform he scored the most recent Cup-clinching OT goal prior to Patrick Kane's two weeks ago. Arnott can still be productive, particularly in a second-line role behind Travis Zajac in New Jersey, but just how big a bargain he can be depends on what he's able to be signed for.
- Captain Marvel will be featured on the cover of EA's NHL 2011. Due to Jonathan Toews being on the cover alone, it will undoubtedly be both one of the best reviewed and best selling video games of the year, if only because they're terrified of Toewsface.
- Speaking of Toewsface, while I don't have an image of it scanned, anyone who's purchased this weeks SI (either regional or national) will note two awesome instances of Toewsface in the Blackhawks feature, particularly the one in the celebration scrum. If anyone can find it, please post it, as it's an all-timer. UPDATE: Reader Edbird was kind enough to send in scans of these wonderful pictures. Here you go.
- Lastly, we love us some sauce around here, and we love us some Roth-era Van Halen, but since he sneaked that shot between Michael Leighton's legs from the bottom of the circle, Patrick Kane has basically become David Lee Roth with his level of public drunken assclownery. And while I can certainly get behind it most of the time, I just hope it doesn't end up affecting his play next season after he made such great strides to rounding out his game in 2009-2010.
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Whoo new thread to play with!
There will be plenty of rumors to sift through in the next few days, I get the feeling. Chris Botta just put up a post detailing why the Isles would do well to snag Versteeg, for instance. And then he makes the argument that at $3.9m for the next 2 years, Patrick Sharp is not a cap solution but a bargain. Which is true. He’s worth so much more than his cap hit, so why trade him?
Anyway, I also bought 4 extra copies of Sports Illustrated with Toewsface on the cover, so if anybody’s interested in them, please email me at the address in my profile. First 4 get it shipped to them. I’m too stupid to figure anything out with PayPal, so no need to pay me for the mag/shipping. If you’d like, though, feel free to direct that money to Charity: Water. Or Hockey Fights Cancer. Up to you. First four emails get the issues. Cheers.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
yeah we needed a new thread
i’m kind of starting to get antsy waiting for someone to make the first move regarding Hawks players. Plus i’m starting to get self-centeredly paranoid every time it looks like some team is trying to clear a bunch of cap space.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 21, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, that 1st move
It’s getting bad waiting for it. I know it’s going to happen so just do it!
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by Johnny Lava on Jun 21, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed on the new thread!
Was looking forward to talking in a common place instead of everywhere else.
As Puppet said, I’m a little antsy just waiting to see what is going to happen and what this roster will look like by September. Waiting isn’t helping. Trying to enjoy the cup still but knowing that this team is going to lose a few players is making me cringe
2009-2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Chicago Blackhawks
Have run out of SI issues now
got my 4 peeps.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jun 21, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Kaner is also drinking like Paul Lynde
And I hope his cousin falls eight stories to his death.
Kane is drinking like I did at 21
But I agree, it may be something to look after, and hope he outgrows after a while. Can we somehow use Toewsface to make Kaner stop drinking?
Toews is busy hanging out with Miley Cyrus
And that kid from Degrassi.
Honestly though, I expect Kane to start sobering up sometime after Vegas.
by shinkicker on Jun 21, 2010 10:13 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
With McD running things
I’m sure Kaner will soon be getting a sit-down with things being clearly explained to him.
1) You just signed a big new contract. Are you going to want another one?
2) You are one of the Faces-of-the-Franchise. That’s a 24-7 job.
3) You had some fun kid, now it’s time to start acting like an adult
4) This organization was embarrasing due to managment for a looonng time. Some player will not embarass it now.
Hopefully that’s all it takes. It would be a shame for a potential amazing career get fouled up buy dependancy issues.
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by Johnny Lava on Jun 21, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
5. You're a professional athlete
who has to be in top physical shape which means working out on your own during the off-season.
I’ve expressed the same concerns about 88. I really hope he gets this 21 year old drinking thing behind him and quickly.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal.
he did a very good job of working out after last season & it really showed
perhpas just a reminder that every summer must be like that
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Yes, last summer he was very dedicated to winning the Cup.
Now he has the SCF OT Cup winning goal in his pocket. Will he be as dedicated this year? I hope so. I don’t have any reason to doubt him at this point other than knowing how irresponsible I was at 21 without millions of dollars in my pocket.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal.
to an extent, i agree and am cautious
as much as I’ve taxed my liver in the last month, i was pretty much consuming my own weight in alcohol for stretches of time when i was his age. And that’s fine, 21 year-olds want to party and enjoy life, and he has plenty of reasons to enjoy his right now.
The part i see as concerning is coming down off of that high, seeing reality again, and being able to get back to work. At that age, i was able to coast to an extent without having to work as hard as I should have. but if Kane tries to coast, he may end up brutally cross-checked by reality in the fall. So the key is really him being able to come back down to earth.
I’m not going to judge him as “lazy” though until he proves to me in the fall that he let his partying get in the way of prepping for next season. Because that would just be the old pot calling the younger kettle black.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 21, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
To which Kane will respond
“Do you know who the fuck I am?”
(The same thing he said to the Buffalo cab driver)
"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."
Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010
Toews is out there
having fun w/Kaner… he’s just not answering questions from TMZ. After Vegas PKizzle might never want to drink again. Hoping for no party fouls from him at the awards though.
"But I like to have fun!" - Meatball
yeah Toews is out there
but I’d be willing to bet that he set’s himself a limit on how many drinks he has for the night. And that it’s prob a number you can use one hand to count
nothin but smiles
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by Johnny Lava on Jun 21, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
well...
but is there media coverage other than the parade, Kane’s raspy voice at Leno, and the TMZ clip suggesting that Kane’s partying is any more excessive than the rest of the team? (Though some might say that’s enough.)
I could see the potential for this behavior spiralling out of control, but it might not be as bad as it looks right now. He was nowhere near belligerent or inappropriate when we saw him out in LA, and I was expecting a tad worse.
He seemed to be pretty disciplined last summer in training, having put on a few extra pounds of muscle. Granted, he wasn’t 21 at the time, but could still get into bars. I’d give it another week or so before Kane’s back to the work out routine.
"But I like to have fun!" - Meatball
Give him a break
Let him take some time off from hockey and clear his mind.He’s been going non-stop since last summer. They all deserve it.
agreed
He’s a 21 year old kid enjoying himself…I don’t think we have to worry just yet about anything except him being a dope that talks to the media while wasted. Plus despite his jokes I think he’s well aware of the thin ice he was on after the cab debacle (I still don’t get why the shirtless pics were such a big deal), and I don’t think he’d risk that again. AND I don’t think he, or anyone else on the Hawks, will be satisfied with their single cup win, which means putting in the work.
by justforkicks on Jun 21, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm all for giving him a break and some time off.
I just hope he doesn’t take the entire summer off…
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal.
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I should’ve complained earlier.
by shinkicker on Jun 21, 2010 9:49 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Hockey...withdrawal...must watch hockey...must hear Foley
Bob I’m Hi Bob LeDonne Bob Bob Bob Bob
by Hi, I'm Bob LeDonne on Jun 21, 2010 9:51 AM CDT reply actions
Also, regarding roster moves
“Don’t worry, I’ve got this”.
by Hi, I'm Bob LeDonne on Jun 21, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh noes
Bob is caught in a temporal loop again. Somebody shake him.
I'm not superstitious. I'm just a little stitious.
by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 21, 2010 12:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
send a nannie
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by Johnny Lava on Jun 21, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I LOL'd
so wrong!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 21, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
After the pride parade ...
Try going down to Halsted and Diversy and ask somebody to Versteeg your Big Buff.
I think sports in general transcend political issues well enough that missing the gay pride parade wouldn’t be a PR faux-pas. While I feel this particular issue is unique in the way that there is an actual neighborhood in the city that represents it and the event itself is more of a celebration than a political statement, I still think it’s roughly the same as if the Blackhawks didn’t attend a huge abortion rally or “tea party.” Not to mention there may be players on the team that would be personally opposed to participating in a rally of this nature. I think it would be great if all the players on their own accord individually participated, but not as a team event.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jun 21, 2010 10:03 AM CDT reply actions
I think you mean Halsted and Belmont
That’s where the bars with gogo boys and drag queens are. Diversey and Halsted is a walgreens, a steak house and a KFC.
I do think Pride is very different than a pro/anti choice or tea party rally, and that the Hawks could use a bit of positive PR in that demographic, after the Pronger is gay thing, and the Trib’s helpful Chrissy Pronger poster.
by shinkicker on Jun 21, 2010 10:35 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
shinkicker just nailed it
after the Pronger is gay thing, and the Trib’s helpful Chrissy Pronger poster
This should be a “must-do” thing for McD. Get the Cup (or the replica) and some players to the parade.
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by Johnny Lava on Jun 21, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
and some of the Ice Girls
equal opportunities at Pride are important.
by WhatWouldBurishDo on Jun 21, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
nicely done
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by Johnny Lava on Jun 21, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Versteeg could wear his limo glasses
Yep, thats infected.
by Bonvie5ForFighting on Jun 21, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I think he'd enjoy it
Things Pride has: lots of drinking, lots of nearly naked people.
by shinkicker on Jun 21, 2010 11:24 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I think you're being insensitive by implying that gays don't like fried chicken. ...
While I agree with you that they are very different, I think in this narrow consideration it is more important how they are the same: they both have nothing to do with hockey, are highly politicized, and taking a stance on one side would risk isolating other fans. In other words, from a PR standpoint, I doubt the gains outweight the costs. Clearly I would love the team to embrace all the issues I feel strongly about, but I also think it’s important that all sorts of people can feel comfortable enjoying the team without having to consider their particular political ideology. I think the Hawks most important duty is to ensure that everybody can come watch the game free of harassment, rather than affirmatively reaching out to particular social groups.
As far as the Chrissy Pronger thing is concerned, I think that’s too attenduated an incident, being from the Trib and all, to hold the Hawks responsible for making amends. Even if they were, I really don’t see that as so offensive that an apology is deserved. I consider it more of a “lighten up” situation.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jun 21, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
The Hawks could just reach out to the players and see if anyone would volunteer to go to the parade.
What would that hurt? Let it be the players decisions. I’m sure some of them have gay friends and would possibly want to show them some support.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
I think that's a good solution ...
If nothing else, I would hate for Keith to miss out on a couple dozen “No-front-teeth-dick-sucking” jokes.
All joking aside, I think it would be great if the players went and showed a little support for the gay community, whether implored by the team or not. Maybe one of them would even wear a Pronger jersey and a tutu.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jun 21, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
The perfect person for that job would be Burish
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 21, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Internaional incident, here we come...
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by AirTrafficAJ on Jun 21, 2010 12:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Didn’t our Soupy have a gay friend who lived in the same building as/partied with Sharp?
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I know someone was making the girls jealous with that story
I just couldn’t remember who it was that had the friend.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
But it was a gay friend, eh?
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Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Yes I believe it was
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
yeah
i thought that was soupy, he was trying to get his friend to go to the first game of Nashville series with him (where he an ahnfire ended up coincidentally getting tix next to eachother).
by puppetmasterp on Jun 21, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
yes it was soupy
and yes, he had a gay friend who lived in the same building as Sharpy. and yes, after saying he was going to bring said friend, later recanted saying that friend went out of state on business.
I am of the opinion that he made up said friend in order to make all the SCH ladies appreciate him [soupy] more.
I met this friend!
it was after the Vancouver game 1 disaster, but I’m pretty sure I didn’t hallucinate him. Didn’t get independent verification that he lived in the same building as Sharpy though.
unless we both hallucinated him
(which is possible given the circumstances of that night) I met him too.
it's entirely possible this isn't sarcasm
the question is, how drunk were you
and why have you not made this guy your bestest friend so we can have bbqs at his place & then invite the neighbors?
very, very drunk.
she fell out of her chair at some point, and we left her bag at the bar.
Soupy had the in, but then he ditched us for Arizona!
Yeah, because saying gay people exist is really taking a stance.
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Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Since last year's Pride parade
I had completely forgotten that gay people exist. Thank God for the timely reminder.
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That wasn't my point
which you knew. My point is that Gay Pride has no political overtones or undertones. It’s the same thing as the Southside Irish Parade. It’s a celebration of culture and its acceptance within American culture. There may be political points made, but you would expect the same thing to happen at a really large Armenian festival; if a championship team went to an Armenian festival, I seriously doubt that any Turks would object because of “political issues.”
Basically, the fact that this is even a point of discussion is proof that the Hawks should go to the parade.
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Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
by meeshak on Jun 21, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Spot on meeshak
I was at church yesterday (shit, blew my cover already) and the priest explained how all southside Irish are lving a life of sin and are damned to hell.
And there’s that whole Armenian “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy in the military. Don’t get me started on that…
(okay, the part about southside Irish living a life of sin may actually be true. That might have been a bad example)
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 21, 2010 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m not sure what your point is, CNS, but if you’re implying that participation in Gay Pride would be aligning with a political stance, then you’re still wrong. Gay pride demonstrations are, at their heart, celebrations of a minority group, one which has suffered legal (and I’m not even talking about marriage here) and societal discrimination for centuries. They started at a time when being openly gay almost universally meant a person would be shunned by their family, and to many, many foreigners, gay pride parades in the US and Europe are still very much symbols of this country’s ideological and societal tolerance. There are obviously political issues involved with being gay – marriage, adoption, open service – but Gay Pride parades are not political demonstrations. They are personal demonstrations.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
If you read further down
you’ll see I basically said the same thing. I was giving you shit for reducing things down to point where one could claim that shit and saffron both smelled the same for the sake of your argument.
I do agree that the pride parade has become a mainstream event, but homosexuality is still a divisive issue. Although the concept of “live and let live” may seem commonplace for most of us, there are many who feel that attending such an event condones what they feel is an immoral lifestyle. That’s not really the case with something like a St. Patty’s Day parade.
So I can understand how what appears to be “just a mainstream event” on the surface can be used as a political tool or to promote an agenda. I’m not saying that’s what’s happening here regarding the Hawks, I’m just saying.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 21, 2010 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I simply cannot condone being Irish-American.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
I’m not sure what your point is, meeshak, but…
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 21, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
To suggest there is nothing political about the Southside Irish Parade
reflects ignorance of Chicago-Irish history. Do you know when the Southside parade took off? When Harold Washington became mayor, and the Chicago Irish couldn’t stand the thought of a black man at the head of the downtown St. Patty’s Day parade.
The fact that politicians jockey to attend these things means…?
To a Marxist (not me), EVERYTHING is political. I’m not saying I agree with this, but simply asserting something is not political proves nothing.
Your response above is more honest- clearly there is something beyond a “we exist” message going on here.
For the record, I’m Chicago Irish Catholic, but I wouldn’t support the Cup or Hawks patronizing that parade (or the Armeinain festival) either, but (like the Pride parade), if the Hawks decide to do this, fine.
Why? I don’t like even the whiff of the idea of the Cup being hijacked to advance some other agenda. The Cup is a scarce resource. I love the idea of the Cup sitting (e.g.) in Seabrook’s house, and a bunch of “nobody” neighbors getting an up-close look and celebrating the Cup qua the Cup, not using it to push some “British Columbia” agenda.
Saturday night, the Cup was paraded through Edison Park and then Elk Grove Village (my hometown- it was McDonough’s day and he lives there.) Thousands of people, including lots of young children, celebrated the Hawks and the Cup- I was unaware of any message about how the people of Elk Grove Village exist or seek validation through the Cup, although I’m sure sombeody could interpret this event politically too.
I’ve picked up that you’re not a big fan of sports catering to children- I can respect this position even if I disagree. In my view, there is something profoundly childish about the whole concept of sports fandom (not that it’s a bad thing), but downtown events are inaccessible to lots of children, and the Pride parade is more adult-themed than most.
The big donwtown rally was the definition of inclusiveness, and the Hawks and Cup were the whole show, not merely a “draw”.
My preference would be to take the Cup to 300 towns and neighborhoods (boystown included.) The point would be to celebrate this team and its accomplishment and what it means to Hawk fans. Once the purity of this motivation is tainted, however worthy you think the goal is, it opens up this can of worms.
I apolgze if I have offended anyone- not my goal.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
Thus it all returns to Bernard Epton...
…and, of course, comfortable footwear (especially if one plans on attending many parades).
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 8:11 AM CDT up reply actions
i did not know that about the southside irish parade, and admit ignorance there
but it doesn’t surprise me one bit.
I’ve clearly been staying out of this debate, for many reasons. BUT, i will add that the biggest reason i think this is different from any ethnic festivals is the nature and perception of sports culture specifically. Being an athlete, or a rabid yet extremely knowledgable sports fan, is something that’s stereotypically a “straight male thing.”
Of course that’s far from the truth. This site is proof that women can be very knowledgable yet rabid sports fans. Does that mean we’re treated the same when we go to bars and watch sporting events….i’m going with “No.” Gay athletes and sports fans have it much, much worse. How many gay athlete’s feel free to be open about it? How many feel the need to deny their sexuality constantly? There’s an inherent cultural perception that being gay contradicts sports culture….and that is a perception that only sports figures and other rabid sports fans can really work to change.
I’m not saying that the Hawks should be forced to do so in this case, but showing up at pride is not completely irrelevant as related to sports.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions
There’s a big difference between sports catering to children and sanitizing the fan experience.
I understand your point, but I also think that it’s a rather odd position to have. Most people would think of the Cup making an appearance at pretty much any large celebration as being perfectly acceptable.
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Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
If Fred Phelps' crew held a gathering and wanted it there, would you be happy with that?
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Confusion will be my epitaph.
The stupidity of that comment is incredible coming from you.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
part of why I don't like sports wading into the culture wars
it is OK when it wades into the camps you like, but not in enemy camps
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Part of why that comment is stupid is that Fred Phelps protests soldiers’ funerals. Part of why that comment is stupid is that Fred Phelps’ church is mostly made up of his own family.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
OK, so I was using Phelps as the poster boy of the anti-gay movenment
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Which says something about the anti-gay movement.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
movements don't pick their poster boys - the media does
back when the media was anti-gay, the poster boys/girls for the movement were equally unflattering (and inaccurate)
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The verdict is:
Political. This much dialogue and vehemence pretty much proves it’s a political issue still. The presence of the Stanley Cup only serves to support one political position.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal.
And you’re wrong, of course. It’s not political. Political is gay marriage, political is openly gay military service. Homosexuality is not political, and attempts to politicize it only serve to marginalize those who are.
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Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
by meeshak on Jun 22, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just add this to fuel our Blood Match.
and no, YOU are wrong. Not only are you not funny you’re also never right. LOL
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal.
I may not be right, but I’m on the side of rights.
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Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
and that is a political struggle
I’m not weighing in on what results I would like to see on all of the various issues, but the Gay Pride Parade is a political event as much as anything else
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
No, it is not a political struggle. There are political aspects of that struggle, but the law makes no mention of a person’s right to come out to family members and still be accepted. The law does not make mention of a person’s right to conversation free of their sexual orientation (and slurs describing it) being used as insults and negative adjectives (i.e. that car is gay, Jay Leno’s a fag).
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
IMHO
It is a political struggle. Any group that needs legislation to make them equal to the rest of the nation, can’t help but be involved poltically since it’s the politicians that make the laws. The representation of these pro gay rights organizations will be out in full force at the Pride Parade to bring awareness to their problems.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
For that matter, sports are a political matter, as well as legal. Saying something is political is pretty much just saying it’s important.
What I’m saying is that the parade, and gay activism in general, transcends any politics. It’s a broader topic, one with social struggles that have nothing to do with the politics of our nation.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
The parade and activism
may transcend it but it’s still a political issue and will be until equal rights are granted. I can’t remember the last election for a Senator or President where gay rights were not one of the top ten issues.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
i think
there are political issues brought into the Pride parade, which is sort of a no-brainer seeing why the parade became what it did. But for thousands, it’s a show of solidarity, support and a gay ol’ time.
I’m extremely happy that Sopes on a Rope will be there with his family, representing the Hawks and the trophy that belongs in Chicago.
I didn't want to get involved in this discussion
but doesn’t having a gay pride parade support all of those things? It may not come out and say that, but isn’t part of being “proud” to be gay wanting to have those same rights that you mention.
Don’t you think that everyone (or the majority of people) participating in that parade are for gay marriage, military service, etc.?
If you still don’t understand my point, here is the most simple way I can break it down. In my opinion, if you participate (not just watch) in the parade, you are saying that you support homosexuality. And if you support homosexuality, you support their equal rights. I don’t think anyone can rationalize not supporting gay rights, but supporting homosexuality in general.
I’m not saying any of this is right or wrong, but I think participating in the parade is a political position.
Ditto for CNS
As i said yesterday, the fact that we’re even talking about this is proof that the Hawks need to participate. There are political undertones, but the Pride parade is much, much broader than that, and to focus on the politics of it, while ignoring the other aspects, strikes me as being symptomatic of attitude of sports fans towards homosexuality in general.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
I missed some of what you said yesterday
but for anyone and I mean anyone from any walk of life, who sees Sopel with the Cup at the parade; the first thing they will think is that he supports homosexuality and the rights or lack thereof associated with homosexuality. And then they will associate the blackhawks as an organization as having the same views (since he has the cup with him.)
This first impression is neither short sighted, nor ignorant, nor hateful, nor indicative of being a masculine sports fan. It is what it is. I don’t see what other first impression of that scene that you could have.
Ditto for CNS
So, the first impression is that Sopel is a supporter of homosexuals in American society. That is not what I’m arguing against. What I’m trying to make clear is that we shouldn’t have to be discussing whether or not the Hawks should be involved with a gay pride parade because the first impression will be that they are OK with homosexuals being in American society. But since we are discussing this, it’s pretty clear that they should be involved in it.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
i hope
of what you say is true. I truely hope that Sopel supports same-sex relationships and I hope to hell that the organization supports equality.
this issue is only political because of how insanely close-minded past generations have been towards this topic. But equality shouldn’t be a political issue, it shouldn’t even be an issue.
FWIW
My gf is against gay marriage – actually she’s against all marriage because she thinks the “institution” is a joke. Which is too bad because I’d love to go crazy registering at Target and I’ve always wanted a Star Wars themed wedding.
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
I told her she could be Princess Leia
but she said she would break up with me. It’s tough being partnered with a non-geek.
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
I haven't decided
Maybe an X-Wing Pilot. Or a stormtrooper.
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
If I couldn't be Leia,
I’d be Han. Or maybe R2D2, but that would be a clunky costume.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I just watched the movie
‘Zack and Miri Make A Porno’ last night. I’ll never see R2D2 in the same light again.
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
my uncle is against marriage
because he has been divorced and likes living single, but that doesn’t mean he thinks marriage should be illegal.
Ditto for CNS
True, true
that being said, I know people who are against gay marriage, etc etc, but still go to the pride parade because they have gay friends and enjoy a good time. Hell, several years ago I was there and there were some foreign tourists having a grand time, and I think they had no idea what the parade was even for. So not everyone who attends supports “the cause” so to speak.
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
I get what you're saying there
but going to the parade and participating are two different things IMO. I’m sure there are plenty of people who want to check it out, or go because they think it’s fun, but I think participation is different. Am I wrong?
Ditto for CNS
I don't think you're neccessarily wrong
But as with anything, it’s dangerous to paint everything with a broad brush. The PFLAG contingent that marches is pretty huge and I’m willing to bet there’s a handful of parents there who march to support their kid, but may not support their right to marry.
And on that note I have to get back to work so I can leave work by 6 :P
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
This whole argument is gay
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
As in
gay –adjective
1. having or showing a merry, lively mood: gay spirits; gay music.
2. bright or showy: gay colors; gay ornaments.
3. given to or abounding in social or other pleasures: a gay social season.
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
Or as in
4. of, for, or relating to homosexuals
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 23, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
In response to chev
I guess I just don’t understand that kind of “support,” maybe I should. I guess my view is that if you are a parent of someone who is gay and you march with them and are ok with them being gay, but you don’t think they should have the same rights as everyone else, then you are simply dressing up tollerance and calling it “support,” when it isn’t really support in its truest sense.
Ditto for CNS
I like how you specified that you were avoiding my comment ;)
(which I personally thought was hilarious, IMO)
My example would be parents that support their child joining the military because he or she wants to defend our country in Iraq, for example. The parents may be against the war in Iraq, but it’s their child’s decision on what they want to do with their life. They wish him or her the best, but they don’t have to share the exact same views.
I know we can rip apart my example and say there are big differences between joining the military and being homosexual, but in general, don’t we typically support our kids even when we disagree? I think that’s part of being a good parent.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I will reply to your loose analogy with one of my own
It would be like if you decided you wanted to go to school and be a lawyer, but your parents hate lawyers, and they had all this money saved up to help you with school. They “support” you having the freedom to choose to go to law school, but they kind of don’t like your existence, so they’re not helping you with college. Sure they’ll still talk to you and call you their son, but they don’t really support the way you make a living.
See, my analogy doesn’t make sense either. Counterpoint.
Ditto for CNS
“but they kind of don’t like your existence, so they’re not helping you with college.”
No one was stating that. Just because a parent doesn’t agree with their child’s “stance” on something like gay marriage, the military, or even their career path has nothing to do with supporting or loving their child.
What if your child was straight and pro gay marriage – and you were against gay marriage? Do you suddenly regret their existence? No. It’s a simple disagreement. These issues are generational and/or ideological and having nothing to do with “support.”
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
or the reverse
I hit my dad with a travel pillow several times and then didn’t speak to him for a day or so after I found out he voted Yes on Prop 8.
I have to tolerate that he’s kind of a bigot, but I’m still glad he’s my dad.
My dad voted Yes on Prop 8 and he lives in Illinois.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
I voted no from Chicago
but that’s the magic of absentee ballots.
oh hey, I should really change my voter registration. and get a new license.
blanket statement
asian people are racist. my god, are they racist. that goes for south asians too.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
You’re just a crazy cracker
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 23, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions
ah see this is where the parade comes in, which you skipped in your analogy
So let me get this straight….my child is gay, I’m ok with this, I don’t agree with their choice, but I love them because they are my child. This I understand, and I bet this occurs in many many situations of this nature, BUT why would I then go to a parade that takes “pride” in the very thing that I don’t agree with?
Here an analogy. Let’s say my child is a democrat and I’m a big time right wing republican. I still love my kid and understand that they have the right to choose, but I’m certainly not going to the Democratic national convention because my kid is there.
I think you guys are misunderstanding me. I’m not saying I don’t understand how parents can still love someone when they do something they disagree with, I just don’t understand how they can celebrate the very thing they disagree with.
Ditto for CNS
how parents can still love someone when they do something they disagree with
homosexuality isn’t something that you “do”, it’s part of who you are as a person. That’s where these analogies fall apart for me.
me using the word "do" there
is an attempt to encompass the analogies others made into one generalization. Let’s not get into the discussion about nature vs. nuture, and you are definitely putting words in my mouth there, I never said being gay was something you “do”
Ditto for CNS
not sure it counts as putting words in your mouth
when I quote you. Misconstruing, perhaps, but my comment was on all of the analogies presented in this thread, so I think we were both doing that.
Hack, you either have little to no experience with homosexuality in your family, or else your family is not accepting of that member.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
why do you assume this
because I think that it is hypocritical for someone to show “support” for their child by marching in the gay pride parade while not wanting their child to have the same rights as everyone else?
The stance that I have could just as easily make me the parent of a gay child whom I fully support and want to have the same marriage and military rights as anyone else.
Ditto for CNS
No, it really couldn’t.
Unless you’re saying that you do, in fact, have an openly gay son or daughter, you’re lost in your own world of misunderstanding right now.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
see this is the problem
If you’ll read my post about 15 or 20 up, my statement is that “I don’t understand that kind of support, maybe I should”, but then people tried to make me understand that kind of support with analogies that absolutely don’t fit, and that’s where is went all wrong. Let’s just stick with your thought that I shouldn’t have an opinion on this because I haven’t experienced it first hand.
Ditto for CNS
My analogy was in response to chev’s quote “I’m willing to bet there’s a handful of parents there who march to support their kid, but may not support their right to marry.”
A parent could take pride in their child and their lifestyle and participate in the parade, but still disagree on certain issues.
I think it’s amazing that we’ve been able to make this the topic of thread and were all pretty much in agreement or seem to have the same stance on the overall topic.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions
This part
“They "support" you having the freedom to choose …..” implies, to me, a belief that being homosexual is a choice people make. (Although I don’t mean to imply that you hold that view) But recent scientific research is showing that it’s not a choice but a pre-determined genetic trait.
I think that people (not referring to you specifically) cling to the “they choose to be that way argument”, even in the face of mounting scientific evidence, as a way to justify their prejudice and discrimination. So I think it’s important in discussions like these to be mindful of the terminology we use, while not going too PC overboard.
Personally I don’t think it matters which it is (or even if it’s either) in terms of how we treat others. ALL human beings are deserving of the same respect and basic human and social rights, regardless of any perceived (or real) difference that result in some parts of society engaging in discriminatory treatment.
Unfortunately, as has been seen throughout history, this view is often in the minority, Therefore, I believe that all struggles like these become political as well as social struggles, in whatever form they take, simply because political solutions are often required to force social change.
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
*shrugs*
My own personal experience: almost all of mine & my gf’s family love and support us both. I’m willing to bet some would even march in the parade with us (if we both didn’t think the pride parade was mostly a joke). But I know for a fact some of those same people wouldn’t show up if we could/would ever get married.
I hate the fact that gay marriage is now the hot button issue when it comes to any discussion about the queer community. If only issues such as transgender discrimination and violence would get as much press.
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
Serious question.
What is acceptable terminology?
I would have thought “queer” was as unacceptable as “fag”.
Or should I just stop trying to be PC and just apologize if I offend someone?
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
queer was totally reclaimed
and is a pretty good catch-all for the LGBTQ community
it's entirely possible this isn't sarcasm
I knew that
But as an aside, I’ve also heard some lesbians call themselves dykes. Is it cool to call all lesbians dykes (not that I would, just to be on the safe side), or is that just some of them?
I’ve always found queer to be acceptable and inoffensive, and it’s my preferred catch-all for LGBTQ. (This varies somewhat depending on what part of the country you’re in, though. Some regions are very friendly to the term, others are a little more wary). It’s DEFINITELY not as offensive as fag.
Don’t stop “trying to be PC”. It takes a little more effort to educate yourself, yes, but the people in your life who are queer will appreciate your courtesy.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jun 23, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Eeee!
McGuire is scarier than ROTJ Darth Vader sans mask!
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On the 2nd thought
maybe not ;)
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
And how the heck did you know so easily
that it was ROTJ Darth??
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 23, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think Pride is meant to make a political statement other than "We Exist"
After managing to make themselves one of the “Asshats of the Week” on AfterElton.com, a gay media website, over the whole Pronger thing, the Hawks could use the good PR.
by WhatWouldBurishDo on Jun 21, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
But would the Pride committee even have made a big deal out of inviting the Hawks
if they weren’t trying to make a somewhat political statement?
Did they invite the Hawks last year, or the year before, etc? I doubt it. So for me it’s either
1. “Now that you’ve won the championship you’re good enough to join our parade” or
2. “We’re inviting you in an attempt to put you on the spot because of the ‘Pronger is gay’ scribbling that may or may not have even been written by a member of the Blackhawks organization.”
Either way feels like there is an agenda tied to the invitation and a valid reason for the Hawks to say no thanks.
I'm not anti-social; I'm just not user friendly
Or maybe its because they are a big deal in Chicago
The only agenda that could exist is the acknowledgment that Chicago has a large gay community rich in tradition…. shit it started fucking House music, which is now the most popular music worldwide…
I say go for it
Wow, I didn't know that
But hey, from Tchaikovsky to Disco to House, I’d say the gay community has contributed a disproportionate amount to solid musical trends over the years, huh?
gays and blacks
and people who tried to steal their innovations and take credit for it
by puppetmasterp on Jun 21, 2010 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Elvis
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 21, 2010 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Another agenda of the Pride Parade is to
march is to change / modify laws so there are full and equal rights for the gay community.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Or maybe
the Hawks are the hottest ticket in town and EVERYONE wants a piece of them. I find it hard to believe the Pride committee is the only group in Chicago to have asked the Blackhawks to attend their event.
This invitiation is only getting attention because homosexuality is not as accepted as say being Irish. I hope the Hawks go if only to shut people up about this. WHO CARES?
by Katherine215 on Jun 21, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope they attend too
Although I don’t feel that Gay Pride Parade = St. Patty’s Day Parade in many aspects, in many aspects it really is.
It has become less of a “statement” and more of an “event” with a melting pot of spectators.
The Hawks in attendance could really make for some hilariously “unique” situations and photo opportunities – and although I don’t know any of the Hawks personally, I would think that most of them would have a ball (doh!) at the pride parade.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 21, 2010 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions
But they should be the same thing
at least in my mind. I hate that this is still even a topic.
Meeshak is saying everything I mean in a much more coherent way tonight, which is odd but true. So I’ll just copy and paste his comments here for me.
by Katherine215 on Jun 21, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
In your mind, my mind, and in the mind’s of many intelligent people who don’t feel the need to impose their own set of moral standards on others, this is not a topic.
Unfortunately, there are others who feel differently for religious or personal reasons. For us to not also respect their right to their beliefs would be hypocrisy.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 21, 2010 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I try to be very conscious of hypocrisy
but I don’t see this that way at all. Was it right to respect the beliefs of people who thought that blacks and women were 2nd class citizens for generations? For me, there is a point where respecting others opinions stops, and this topic is one of them.
by Katherine215 on Jun 21, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
My $.02 Cents
I think it would be great if the Cup and/or players or members of the Hawks organization made it to the parade. Let’s be honest – none of the major sports leagues in the US (with maybe the exception of the WNBA) acknowledge the gay community in any significant way. And how many queer athletes in these leagues can you name? A couple at most – and all of them came out after their playing days were over.
I think the Hawks are in a tough PR spot – now that this has made news they almost have to attend as to not be perceived as homophobic. Then again, if you’re going to go to this parade, why not any of the other ethnic pride parades/festivals this summer? I suspect if they decline, they’d use this excuse as to why they can’t go: “we don’t want to go to one and not all of them.” That reasoning I certainly understand, but there’ll be some fallout if they go that route.
From a personal standpoint, I haven’t been to pride in years – it’s honestly a joke. It’s always too hot, too crowded with drunks and way too damn long (like 3+ hours – and they always start late). Imagine the Hawks parade with better dressed people. The parade has really turned into a horse and pony show for the politicians and local/national businesses to show up and be queer friendly for a day. At least the last time I went the loudest applause was for PFLAG which restored a bit of my faith in humanity.
/jumps off soapbox
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
on the gay pride parade
People of all races, sexual orientations, religions, etc were welcome to attend the Hawks celebration parade, because that is what the parade was for, the Hawks. I don’t really see why the Hawks have to attend the gay pride parade; I don’t care whether they do or don’t, but I don’t think McDonnough and crew should mandate that all players have to be there. If they want to put the cup in the parade and ask for any players that would like to volunteer to be in attendance, I’m cool with that, but I’m definitely not cool with forcing the guys to go.
Ditto for CNS
I don't think anyone is advocating players being forced to go
But it would be great for any of the guys who were comfortable with it to be there.
by WhatWouldBurishDo on Jun 21, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I could see Niemi being the only Hawk there
and being completely confused because his English-to-Finnish pocket dictionary was completely outdated.
Look, rainbows – these people are certainly proud of being happy!
These chicks totally dig me. Wow, she’s got big hands!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 21, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Thats an awesome mental image
Actually, any social situation where he feels overwhelmed would be hilarious to watch him in!
forcing everyone wouldn't make sense on any level
From a logistical standpoint, not all the players will be around over the summer. And from a PR standpoint, it would be pretty damn obvious to the ginormous crowds at Pride if one of the players was pissed or resentful.
The article about them being publicly invited said they just wanted some sort of representative. They joked around about totally wanting Sharp (because everyone totally wants Sharp) but management asking for volunteers and then sending a float with those volunteers + The Cup would be exactly what was asked for.
it's entirely possible this isn't sarcasm
Agreed
With all due respect to our gay friends in SCH and my gay friends outside of SCH I think the Gay Pride parade is more of a political statement which I don’t believe a sports team should be about. Why alienate some fans to reach out to others regardless of the political issue? What if the Hawks paraded with the Nazis in the Blues Brothers? (No, I’m not equating gays to Nazis!) IMO, parades with a political agenda should be avoided by sports teams.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal.
an elementary school
marched in Pride last year. I’m not sure it’s quite the sensationalist statement you think it is.
it's entirely possible this isn't sarcasm
Toews on the NHL 11 cover...
A lot of people around the league on other blogs are bitching about Hawks’ players being on consecutive covers. I understand that. But all homerism aside, who possibly deserves this over Toews after his amazing year?
- Top forward, Olympics
- Olympic gold medalist
- Conn Smythe winner
- Stanley Cup champion
- 2nd youngest captain to ever win the SC
No offense to Kane, but Toews deserves the cover 19x more than he did.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 21, 2010 11:44 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Before Toews' year ended
people thought Miller was almost a shoo-in for the cover. I think he was high on the list for consideration, but he got a silver medal and his team bowed out of the playoffs after the first round. Ummmm.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 21, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
So what would happen
In the Gretzky era? One year Gretzky, the next Messier, then Fuhr perhaps. Obviously next year it will be a non Hawk unless something absolutely spectacular happens like Hossa scoring 70 and leading the Hawks to another championship!
Let those other people bitch!
You know, we have a championship team with a lot of great players. Why wouldn’t they be on back to back covers?
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal.
Thinking about this the other day
When you think of all the professional athletes ever to have played sports, it is difficult to come up with more than one or two that have had as prolific of a year as Toews.
Jordan winning the MVP & NBA championship and then winning the gold medal while (probably) being the MVP is the only comparable year i can think of.
The only thing i could think of being bigger would be if a soccer player won the UEFA champions league and the World Cup in the same year and being chosen MVP of both.
Toews not only had one of the greatest years possible for an NHL’er but for any athlete.
Can anyone think of anything similar to MJ & Toews?
Ronaldo had an epic year in 2002.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
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You also have althlete like Tiger Woods and Michael Phelps...
I’m sure the list goes on, but it doesn’t detract from what Toews accomplished in his sport this year.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 21, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
The list doesn’t go on much longer. They’re all household names, too, legends. Except maybe Ronaldo, but his career was sidetracked by hypothyroidism.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
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and an appetite for transvestite prostitutes.
"I have only space enough to add: against the assault of desperate pandas nothing can stand."
-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)
by HungryHungryPanda on Jun 22, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
you are so right
it was promised, delayed, then everyone got drunk and were too busy reveling to remember to bring it up again….
by puppetmasterp on Jun 21, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Kane scored in OT,
then he didn’t, and then he did again. And there was much rejoicing.
…yay…
A day passed. Day changed into night. Night changed into day. Day changed back into night.
And memory gave weekend a miss and went straight on into Monday.
Until one day…
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 21, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
There is no need to point out anything negative with regard to game 6
That being said, I thought Kopecky was hot garbage up with Toews and Hoss in that game. Kop had his head down all game and really dragged that line down.
It feels weird writing something like that when your team wins the cup, but I was ubber-pissed at Kop going into OT.
Ditto for CNS
He didn't fall though did he?
Maybe therefore he was just trying to watch his skates?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 21, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
hahaha
After the game I was actually thinking that we didn’t really play all that well, and then I was like. “But they won the Cup.” and I got confused so I just drank more. Now I don’t even remember what happened, except we won.
I would love a game 6 recap, but there is really no way to critique that game without going “But dude, we won the Cup.”
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 21, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
see I thought we played really well
with the exception of a couple of players. We out-shot and out-chanced them, plus we got a couple bad breaks (Dunc getting (incidentally) tripped up leading to the second goal, and that flukey third goal). All in all, a solid game by the Hawks, their play was worthy of a cup clincher.
Ditto for CNS
from memory, my reaction was closer to
“HOLY SHIT HERE COMES A GAME 7 I THINK I’M GOING TO PUKE ::HYPERVENTILATES::”
But that may have been me doing my best impression of a Chicago fan. I gotta watch it again for a better assessment of their play.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jun 21, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Now that we've won a Cup
D’you think we’ll be able to stop being such Chicago fans for at least the next few years?
absolutely not
:P
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jun 21, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I was actually thinking that we didn’t really play all that well
I remember an argument about save percentage in relationship to the Hawks goalies. The argument was that the Hawks goalies had an easier time because they faced fewer shots. I said it wasn’t the shots but the quality of shots that mattered.
I thought Game 6 of the SCF was one of the best examples of this problem with save percentage. The Hawks outshot the Flyers by a huge margin but when it came to quality saves required, Niemi needed to make as many as the Flyers goalie.
Niemi also had the better game even though he ended up with the worse save % stats…
"I said it wasn’t the shots but the quality of shots that mattered."
Are you suggesting that we start using… *gasp*… SCORING CHANCES?
SCORING CHANCES
Scoring chances aren’t quality shots. Truth is I have a hard time understanding exactly what the point is on what they consider scoring chances…
I’m thinking Corsi’s definition of Quality shots is pretty good. I would extend it out to the hashmarks instead of the center of the dots but otherwise, I’d take that rectangle as a quality shot.
I wouldn’t count misses, though. Corsi thinks a breakaway should count even if the shot isn’t on net. Me, if it can’t possibly be a goal it wasn’t a quality shot.
If you look at GMH’s goals against Niemi in the finals, he didn’t give up a goal that wasn’t a quality shot.
GMH’s goals against Niemi in the finals
Speaking of which, Is GMH out there? I was wondering if she/you had the distances for all shots during the playoffs?
I was trying to work on C&B scoring chances and having a hard time determining which shots were inside the rectangle. The rectangle is drawing a line from the outside of the faceoff hashmarks up to the top of the faceoff circles.
Do you have anything like that? Otherwise, I’m trying to find torrents for the scf games. Anybody have a link that will actually download?
I can get rough data from the GameCenter feeds
Would that be helpful? I know gmh hates that data because it’s often very inaccurate but I’d imagine on average it evens out, kinda.
Let me know if you want something specific, like a chart.
GameCenter feeds
I have the Game Center Feeds, thanks though…
I was working on the complaints from C&B that they were inaccurate. I’m finding that what is and isn’t a scoring chance is pretty weird. I was trying to remove the inaccuracy of the scorekeeper distances from that equation.
Here are the torrents for all the SCF games
http://isohunt.com/lite/files/189303677/stanley%20cup
http://isohunt.com/lite/files/189621437/stanley%20cup
http://isohunt.com/lite/files/189919273/stanley%20cup
http://isohunt.com/lite/files/190242221/stanley%20cup
http://isohunt.com/lite/files/190538969/stanley%20cup
http://isohunt.com/lite/files/191096673/stanley%20cup
All were good and virus free for me
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Just watched Game 6 OT and post game again
Needless to say, I forgot about my headache, and am grinning from ear to ear!
Kinda funny watching the Hawks follow each other around like children waiting for a candy bar, when passing the Cup! But sure was worth the wait!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Great analogy!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Is there the potential for something systematic?
Being lazy, I don’t want to go through game video for stats work. If you don’t have distances (and implicitly, angles), the only thing I’m left with is the shot types provided on the play-by-play (slap, wrist, deflection, tip-in, etc.).
Look forward to whatever you’re doing, though.
I agree.
I’m feeling like CNS, Ditto for Badgerdano.
I thought the officiating was about as crappy as it could get in a SCF game. I felt despite that, the Hawks played fairly solid hockey.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal.
That flukey 3rd goal
that went off of fucking HOSSA’s skate would have made us all want to jump off the ledge had the Phlyers gone on to win. I mean, how snake-bit can a guy be? I’m not sure if any amount of “but we are superior” and facts would have allowed me to not gnaw my nails to the quick.
BTW, I only know this because I saw game 6 later on DVR. I was so nervous I was walking around the ‘hood the better part of the 2nd-3rd periods. I did hear people swearing and screaming “NOOOOO”, so I knew it couldn’t be good. I was sitting on my stairs when Kane scored in OT. Then and only then could I watch.
true
I watched the replay. Even knowing what was going to happen and when, I spent most of the 3rd and all OT thinking “shit, they’re looking bad, here comes a Game 7”
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
LOL
I love when that happens. I usually hate rewatching things specifically because I already know what happens but when you forget, that’s the sign whatever you’re watching is THAT good.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jun 21, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly, I don't remember which shift it was (blame the booze), but...
I do recall a shift in that last game wherein Kopy fell down (to be fair, he was finishing a check) and lost his helmet in the same shift. It was then that I knew with a bone-deep certainty that we were going to win the Cup.
The offense was clicking, Keith was a dynamo, Seabrook was a goddamn brick wall, Nemo had his head on his shoulders, and Kopy was losing his helmet. All was right in the world of the Hawks. No way we couldn’t win it at that point.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jun 22, 2010 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is why regular people aren't GMs
Trade proposed on HFBoards (via Puckdaddy):
to ATL: Semin
to CHI: Machacek/Espo, ATL 2nd Rounder 2010
to WAS: 8th overall (ATL), Patrick Sharp, ATL 3rd rounder?
Methinks not.
earlier today, there was a rumor going round on Twitter
that Huet, Sharp and Hjalmarsson were going to Washington for Semin and a 2nd rounder. The source cited by the parody tweet was “dude who parks next to 88’s dad in the UC” but do you think people paid attention to that? No. Instead they C&Ped the message, TOOK OUT THE PART THAT CITED MOCK SOURCES, and then got some people to ask Dreger & MacKenzie to “confirm”.
I mean WTF DO PEOPLE NOT HAVE COMMON SENSE.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jun 21, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd have no problems with that trade if it was actually true
Hawks need a goon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3_0ukjimpw
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 21, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
nothing fiercer than
a guy named Sasha.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jun 21, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't see Sharp going anywhere
He’s just way to valuable. The only way Sharp leaves is if somehow we package Huet in the deal. I love Versteeg but Sharp can play center with Hossa and Versteeg can’t and that’s good enough for me.
Honestly, I don’t have a clear understanding of the cap- nor do I want to. I know we can’t sign all of our players and that’s more than enough for me to know. Otherwise I’ll stress out about stuff I can’t in anyway control. Let Bowman and Co stress out. Just bring me another solid shot at a Championship. OK? I don’t need a dynasty, I just want to root for the Hawks and they’re gonna have a solid core for many years and that’s pretty freaking cool.
I'm with you on the not worrying about it phase ...
I support the cap in general. It’s good for the sport, as I was getting sick of watching the Rangers make some bozo signing of some aging never-was every summer for nine million and thereby throwing the entire pay grade of the league out of wack. Now GM’s have to use their money more wisely and if they don’t (see Redden) cap problems will come back to haunt you and the league gains parity. To me, the cap punishment now is punishment for the bad contracts given to Campbell and Huet rather than the nature of the league being to break up good teams. However, it seems unlikely that a team will even win without a few bad signings, so it would take a pretty shrewd GM to keep a good team together for five years.
And I agree on Sharp too. He’s proven himself to be the epitome of a consistent second line forward. I would dump Ladd, Versteeg, Buff, Brouwer or any combination of the group to keep him.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jun 21, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I would be much more worried about players leaving and whatnot if they had not hoisted the Cup this year. As it is, I’m reminded of an article from Allan Muir just after the Hossa signing, where he said it was stupid and blah blah blah, unless the Hawks are thinking that the cap is going to explode their team after the ‘09-’10 season anyway and this might be their best and only chance.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
VERSTIG - when you eventually read this
I am at Panera, and near us are two guys having a conversation about the World Cup, one of them asian. I think it was a business meeting, b/c they didn’t seem to know each other very well and it seemed like small talk.
As I’m walking back to my booth, the Asian guys says really loudly “So, you like hockey?” I mention this to ahnfire, who promptly peers over into the other booth and calls out “Verstig???”
we got no reply, so we’re assuming you’re still in NY.
haha
I was actually in Chicago this weekend (just flew back today).
…but unless I blacked out after getting punched in the face, I don’t recall ever stepping into a Panera…
Is there a story here you're hinting at?
Do tell.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 21, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
so if you didn't black out...
then what DID happen after you got punched in the face?
by puppetmasterp on Jun 21, 2010 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Pride
Suppose a "Chicago Chess Players Who Love Hockey " group, comprised of 40 members, lobbied to get the Cup or Hawks to attend their annual Chess Convention. I would not support such an effort (even though I really like chess), but if the Hawks decided they wanted to do that, fine.
If the chess players were spurned and went on about chess-hate ad nauseum, I might come to regret my lack of support.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
Have you ever seen a gay man spurned?
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 21, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah but
Pride is a HUGE event with tons of attendees and participants and major press coverage. It’s a bit different.
it's entirely possible this isn't sarcasm
From Wysh's article
Sobotka is the president of the Chicago Gay Hockey Association, which has been around since 2002 and currently boasts around 40 members.
If we’re talking about rewarding subgroups of Hawk fans, this is not a worthy number.
If we’re talking about using this as a marketing vehicle, that’s a different discussion that we kinda already had a while ago.
If we’re talking about being sensitive to potentially divisive messages to the fan base, chess is highly uncontroversial.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
I would just as soon stay out of taking sides in the Culture Wars
and for those who think this would be such a great idea – this could, perhaps, backfire from the “promoting acceptance” standpoint.
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Toews is gay.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
well yeah,
I would expect any player to be happy when winning the Cup
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
That's what Kaner thought...
Till he found out he was bangin his little sister.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
by Campbell32 on Jun 22, 2010 12:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
From Puck Daddy
a really good article on Brendan Burke which points out why demonstrating that the Hawks are gay friendly is important.
For far too many people, coming out means choosing between things that they love: sports, jobs, friends, family members, and in some awful cases, safety. The hockey world needs to make it clear that gay athletes do not need to choose between living their lives honestly and playing the game that they love.
by WhatWouldBurishDo on Jun 21, 2010 2:42 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
This is one of the reasons I think the Hawks should do the pride parade. The other reason I think they should do it is because it should be a total non-issue if they do it or don’t.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
by meeshak on Jun 21, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I agree completely.
I agree so much, I’m going to have to rec this.
by Katherine215 on Jun 21, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
The only concern I have is
They will have to say no to someone, and would just like to not have a controversy like that, of why they will for some, but not others, etc etc etc.
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
This is a huge OH GOD YES to that quote.
I hope that hockey really does decide to take the high road and be more open than other pro sports have thus far been. As of this year, at least it seems like they’re trying, with the discussions and general acceptance of Brendan and the polls indicating that players accept the reality of queer people in their locker rooms .
For a group that no sport has even tried acceptance for in history, that really means a lot.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jun 22, 2010 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Discussion of homosexuality and sport always reminds me of a clip I saw where Chelsea players were asked who the best looking player on the team was and all of them shirked the question, got really embarrassed, and denied being gay. Ashley Cole, obviously, said he was, but the worst was John Terry, who kept saying, “I’m no’ tha’ way, bu’ if I were, bu’ unnerstan I’m no’ tha’ way…”
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
a Welsh Rugby player came out, and everyone seems pretty chill with it, except some Australian player who’s all “you need to go back in the closet because I’m uncomfortable.”
Gareth Thomas is my hero
And his twitter feed it hilarious.
by WhatWouldBurishDo on Jun 23, 2010 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions
it also helped
that he’s huge, scary, and a rugby legend in his own right. But yes, very cool.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 23, 2010 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions
at least Sharp makes such questions easy for the Hawks to answer.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
except for Versteeg
He’ll always vote for himself. But I thought that too, they all know he’s the most attractive.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
honestly, Chelsea wasn’t the best team to be asked. about all they could say was, “well, Ashley Cole thinks he’s the hottest.”
now, arsenal or man u, that would have been easy (this was three years ago).
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Here's
a column by Patrick Burke, Brendan’s brother.
It brings up some really excellent points, which also apply to why I think any Hawks presence at Pride would be important.
Excerpt:
Every time a player has the courage and the confidence to step up and be an example and a role model, he breaks a stereotype held by athletes who generally have limited exposure to gay culture. It is truly a vicious cycle: Athletes who are never exposed to gay culture hold onto antiquated (and often harmful) stereotypes about homosexuality, which makes gay athletes afraid to come out, which means the athletes never confront the ignorance of their beliefs. The cycle has been repeating itself for generations in pro sports.
Whatcha got there? Words?
it'd be a great opportunity
We need to work on ending the use of homophobic slurs as an insult (most recently seen in the embarrassing pictures taken of Chicago Blackhawk Pat Kane and a "Pronger is Gay" slogan; Kane just a few months ago wore a dogtag reading "In Honor of Brendan Burke" with the rest of his Olympic hockey teammates)
for the “Pronger is gay” thing not to be the first thing associated with the Blackhawks in the eyes of queers and queer allies.
What’s weird about that is that the article makes it sound like Kane posed with the slogan, smiling, maybe even holding up the placard because he loved it so much. But it was a picture of the team’s celebration, appearing in the frame only incidentally.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
I cringed really hard when I read it
because it is in the background, and we don’t know who wrote it, but since it’s Kane’s face in front of it, he’s being associated with it. I knew it would happen eventually, when I saw the picture, but it’s still frustrating.
Especially as the original picture is of Kane and Toews
It’s just that Tazer was cropped out of it by most of the media that reproduced it.
by WhatWouldBurishDo on Jun 21, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
It’s stupidity of the highest order (the fact that Kane is associated with the phrase).
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
yes
with all the people in the room then it could have been friends/family/media – definitely unfortunate that he is being associated with that – especially in the article – which was really great! but makes it seem like kane was vanna whiting the board
by justforkicks on Jun 21, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
it could have been anyone. i think everyone knows some people think it was one of the Americans. but even still, there is no association that can be made between Kane and the phrase through that picture except by morons and people who are searching for proof of his lack of moral fiber.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
and for kane
to not be associated with that if he goes
by justforkicks on Jun 21, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
but it'll be for the cause!
if he chops off the mullet and shows his sweet dance moves AND takes off his shirt maybe he’ll be perfect for a float.
by justforkicks on Jun 21, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
ha
the second i feel my day going south i watch it – instant pick me up!
by justforkicks on Jun 21, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
GUESS WHO WE'RE PLAYING ON OUR HOME OPENER/BANNER RAISE
ANAHEIM – Wednesday, Oct. 13, Vancouver.
ATLANTA – Friday, Oct. 8, Washington.
BOSTON – Thursday, Oct. 21, Washington.
BUFFALO – Saturday, Oct. 9, NY Rangers.
CALGARY – Sunday, Oct. 10, Los Angeles.
CAROLINA – Wednesday, Oct. 27, Washington.
CHICAGO – Saturday, Oct. 9, Detroit.
COLORADO – Thursday, Oct. 7, Chicago.
COLUMBUS – Friday, Oct. 15, Chicago.
DALLAS – Thursday, Oct. 14, Detroit.
DETROIT – Friday, Oct. 8, Anaheim.
EDMONTON – Thursday, Oct. 7, Calgary.
FLORIDA – Saturday, Oct. 16, Tampa Bay.
LOS ANGELES – Tuesday, Oct. 12, Atlanta.
MINNESOTA – Thursday, Oct. 14, Edmonton.
MONTREAL – Wednesday, Oct. 13, Tampa Bay.
NASHVILLE – Saturday, Oct. 9, Anaheim.
NEW JERSEY – Friday, Oct. 8, Dallas.
NY ISLANDERS – Saturday, Oct. 9, Dallas.
NY RANGERS – Friday, Oct. 15, Toronto.
OTTAWA – Friday, Oct. 8, Buffalo.
PHILADELPHIA – Monday, Oct. 11, Colorado.
PHOENIX – Saturday, Oct. 16, Detroit.
PITTSBURGH – Thursday, Oct. 7, Philadelphia.
ST. LOUIS – Saturday, Oct. 9, Philadelphia.
SAN JOSE – Saturday, Oct. 16, Atlanta.
TAMPA BAY – Saturday, Oct. 9, Atlanta.
ST. LOUIS – Saturday, Oct. 9, Philadelphia.
TORONTO – Thursday, Oct. 7, Montreal.
VANCOUVER – Saturday, Oct. 9, Los Angeles.
WASHINGTON – Saturday, Oct. 9, New Jersey.
From Blueland Blog.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
epic road trip?
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jun 21, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
They cant get the ice frozen in time..
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
by HjammerTime on Jun 21, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
FUCK SCUM
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 21, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
thats perfect.
i wonder how much tickets will end up going for this single game once all is said and done.. To see the banner(s) raised AND watch Franzen watch the banner(s) go up!? MUST be in the building for this.
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
start saving
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jun 21, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Wings and Hossa
Making SCUM fans watch Marian Hossa’s banner being raised is worth the price of my (future) firstborn child.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
..
On another note I had to go to that barren fucking wasteland known as Detroit for a wedding this weekend and that place is virtually a fucking ghost-town.
Anywhere else in American and I would feel really really bad……But I dont.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
Seriously though...
It’s not good for America when a city like Detroit is a barren wasteland.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal.
You're absolutely right
A barren wasteland is just a waste of land.
It should be full of Scum fans – oh wait…
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 21, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you suggesting an internment camp?
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Isn’t that why they all have ankle bracelets already?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 21, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
this works out well for me
I have the option of taking OT as pay or a time-off later. Considering I thought the game was going to be Friday I was taking time, now it’s all $$
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
In what century is the NHL going to give the ‘Hawks their first game of the season at home? I figured after winning the Stanley Cup it would be a given – guessed wrong I suppose. (I’m sorry but the game in Finland doesn’t count).
2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.
I will be there
Hell or high water. Try at face on Ticketmaster but don’t care otherwise.
----2010 MOTHERFUCKIN' STANLEY CUP CHAMPS, CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS!----
Derrick Rose will lead us back to the promise land.
Tommy T is a defensive wiz!
#5 Brent Sopel Fan Club member.
Laddddddddyyyyyyyyyyyy
Hockey Night in Canada
is what I heard as the reason. They actually pay $$ to the NHL so they sometime have to listen.
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
Ill be at the Parade to see the Cup.....
My girlfriend lives in Boystown and you can bet your ass I’ll be there to see it.
This works out very well because when I see the Stanley Cup Im going to start crying like a baby and I feel like I wont be judged for it at this particular event.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
But you will be consoled.
Picture bloodbaths and elevator shafts
Like these murderous rhymes tight from genuine craft
LOL
…..and maybe more!….In all seriousness I reluctantly went to the parade last year and actually ended up having a really good time.
My girlfriend lives right around Newport and Halsted so its sort of unavoidable for me…I saw all sorts of chicks making out and other stuff people dont even know about!
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
one of my best friends
used to live for years on Newport between Halsted and Clark. I know what you mean (especially seeing the exhuberant masses entering/exiting clubs like Roscoe’s, etc… best people-watching ever.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 21, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not gay but if I get to touch the Cup I'm coming to the pride parade
And no that was not a double entendre. If the Hawks go I assume the Cup will go to a local establishment. When is the parade again?
----2010 MOTHERFUCKIN' STANLEY CUP CHAMPS, CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS!----
Derrick Rose will lead us back to the promise land.
Tommy T is a defensive wiz!
#5 Brent Sopel Fan Club member.
Laddddddddyyyyyyyyyyyy
Thank god Manhole closed years ago
If they would have taken the Cup there, there is not enough disinfectant in North America to make the Cup suitable for handling afterward.
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
Lol that doesn't sound good
Did anyone see the Tribune article about how the Cup is really clean actually especially when compared to something like an office desk?
----2010 MOTHERFUCKIN' STANLEY CUP CHAMPS, CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS!----
Derrick Rose will lead us back to the promise land.
Tommy T is a defensive wiz!
#5 Brent Sopel Fan Club member.
Laddddddddyyyyyyyyyyyy
Much baser things have been done on an office desk than will ever be done on or near the Cup.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
you really think
no hockey player in the history of the Cup has managed to abscond with it when the Cup Guardian wasn’t looking and do “base things” on or near it?
If that can possibly be true, I’m sure Burish will make it untrue this summer.
by Katherine215 on Jun 21, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Something tells me that no hockey player would ever rub his naked ass on the Cup, even if it was over Pronger’s name or the entire Red Wings roster from 2008. Although I have no evidence, it would not surprise me if a number of desks belonging to upper management have had just this treatment.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Oh. well, I was thinking about sex near it
but I think you’re right about the lack of bare asses rubbed on it.
by Katherine215 on Jun 21, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Geez, I never considered that type of activity
but I can totally see certain players rubbing their asses over, for example, Pronger’s name. Do you really think Burish and Eager haven’t done that yet or at least tried?
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 21, 2010 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know
I really think they have too much respect for It to do that. Doing things near it is a different story.
by Katherine215 on Jun 21, 2010 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
So are you saying
you think they rubbed their asses near Pronger’s name but not on it? Like maybe just on the Ducks name? ;)
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 21, 2010 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
why the hell am i reading this right before i go to bed?????
if I wake up with PTSD, I’m sending my psych bills to you people.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 21, 2010 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions
correction
sending them to meeshak. He came up with the bare asses.
by Katherine215 on Jun 21, 2010 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I backtracked, and therefore incur no liability. Krome will back me up in the morning, and he’s actually practiced law, so his opinion is more right than puppet’s. A hell of a lot more right than slacker, I-don’t-even-study-at-bookstores ahnfire’s.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
I think you copyrighted it
when you said it so you’re stuck with the liabilities as well as the royalties. Krome will back me up in the morning.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions
I was quoting. I just failed to cite my source.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
was your source
a Matthew somebody? I’ve heard of him, he’s overrated.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions
don’t slander my good name, KtG, or i might just not make any food for your little cribbage tournament/ice cream social/awkward silence/housewarming party
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
cribbage?
I didn’t realize you youngsters would know how to play that.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
i went to school in minnesota. it’s one of the top spectator sports.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Cribbage and euchre
Filed under “What I did before Al Gore invented the internet”
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Cribbage and euchre
just sounds like every winter on my farm
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
Cribbage and euchre filed under favorite things to do that I can never get anyone within 350 miles of Chicago to do.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
I know one of my coworkers knows how to play euchre
but we end up playing Durak on lunch breaks, if we play cards.
Durak is awesome
but we can only play it 2 on 2. With more people my game of choice is Big 2 / Chinese Poker / Class Struggle / A-Hole (or whatever else people call it these days).
we've never played teams
well, not officially, sometimes we form alliances against the coworker who always fucking wins.
if you can't find anyone in chicago who plays euchre
you are clearly looking in all the wrong places.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions
so the new pick up line is
So you girls like euchre?
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
Haha!
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Not true my friend.
You can find cribbage and euchre in southern Wisconsin, well within 350 miles of Chicago.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal.
Last I checked, it was 335 miles from Chicago to Janesville, and then 65 from Janesville to Minnesota.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
You canfind it at my Mom & Dad's house
along with Pinochle.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Eh, you haven't even confirmed you're going
I’ll slander away until I hear otherwise.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
holy hell
do we have a buncha law nerds on SCH? it all makes so much sense now.
"But I like to have fun!" - Meatball
the quality
of humor, intellect and spit-fire from this group makes me feel all warm and cozy – can’t believe I’d never made the connection before.
"But I like to have fun!" - Meatball
you were negligent
because you knew or should have known that the mental image you were introducing could have traumatic repercussions on the others here. If i have violent physical reactions to it, you are liable. or if i can show you did it intentionally, you are liable.
and backtracking only works if you’re charged with a crime. I’m not a prosecutor, and i’m not calling the police. I’d just sue you for money (in tort, not for a crime).
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions
i’ll just let my cousin here, Jonny Too Tall, change your mind
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
i'm down
as long as i know in advance what my cut of it is.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions
don't you have a duel to prepare for?
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
that was back during the playoffs
besides, i haven’t seen laarmer, a.k.a. “Grumpy Fuck” around much lately, have you?
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions
I was thinking the same thing when I asked about the duel.
Laarmer must have gone back to “lurk mode”.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
laaarmer, come out of lurk mode
we know you’re out there.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
So from your avatar, you got to kiss the cup too?? Guh!
I’m equally jealous and apologetic for you having to read this thread – no, actually I’m still mostly jealous. I’m about 99.99% sure of that.
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Has the CI been emailed out yet today?
I keep checking my inbox, but have not seen it yet. Spam filter is clean, too.
Not yet
Should be soon – Sam did say later today
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
Just hit my inbox minutes ago!
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 21, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Mine too - yeah!!!!!
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
Preseason tickets?
Does anyone know when these go on sale/what the prices are usually like? My mom’s going to be in town for the one against Detroit, and I’m still doing my very best to indoctrinate as much of the family as possible.
IIRC
Prices are usually the same as regular season games. Last year we went totally last minute and there were plenty of seats, but then again, that was last year. I got to see Klinkhammer score – YES!
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
they're full price
I had a partial plan and I was horrified to discover I paid something like $35-45 for a preseason game.
by Katherine215 on Jun 21, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
i really liked
Halak during the playoffs this year, and can’t see how St. Louis doesn’t improve by 12-15 points due to this move.
It’s interesting how similar the save percentages between Price and Mason were this past season and the difference between Halak and Price was huge in terms of the Canadien’s success.
He may be overrated, but not by as much as Price is underrated.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Price is overrated. End of story.
2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.
Yah, once again I missed meeshak’s humour.
2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.
I was more going with the attitude in Montreal when I left, which was that Price wasn’t going to turn out as even a half-way decent goaltender and if the Habs had any sense, they’d keep Halak. Maybe that’s changed in the intervening months.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
It's Officially Official
Captain Serious, Captain Marvel, Tazer, Captain, Toews (my name sake) is the cover boy for the best Hockey Game Made EA Sports NHL-11. Lets hope the trend continues of the past cover boy being on the team that wins the Cup!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 21, 2010 6:47 PM CDT reply actions
Yep, that a fail
Ughhh, (note to self: at least look at the green stuff before posting!)
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 21, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
NO
I am dying with inferior sports.
----2010 MOTHERFUCKIN' STANLEY CUP CHAMPS, CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS!----
Derrick Rose will lead us back to the promise land.
Tommy T is a defensive wiz!
#5 Brent Sopel Fan Club member.
Laddddddddyyyyyyyyyyyy
i've rewatched
game 6, three times on HULU already. Can’t get enough of it.
On my DVR and I won't be taking it out.
----2010 MOTHERFUCKIN' STANLEY CUP CHAMPS, CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS!----
Derrick Rose will lead us back to the promise land.
Tommy T is a defensive wiz!
#5 Brent Sopel Fan Club member.
Laddddddddyyyyyyyyyyyy
I only have
OT and the celebration afterward on my DVR but I’ve watched it 5-6 times already. Easiest way to bring a smile to my face right now.
by Chris Roberts on Jun 22, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I really do not understand how a gay pride parade has a political agenda
Marching in favor of specific issue is an agenda, Pride parades are more of an acknowledgment of existence, not much different as something like Irish Fest in Milwuakee.
I think the analogies fit well on paper ...
but fail to capture the event in its context. The civil rights movement for the Irish is over and, save form my English Grandma, there’s hadly if any discrimination towards an individual for being Irish. The civil rights movement of racial minorities is still an on-going struggle, but the issue itself has been decided decades ago: racism is bad, discrimination on the basis of race is bad. The civil rights movement for gays is still fledging and being parsed out on the national and state political battlefields. Issues like gay marriage, discrimination on the basis of sexuality, and even the legality of private, consensual sodomy are all relatively new fights. An event such as a Pride parade, even if it is facially benign and innocous, has so many tentacles in contemporary political issues that you’d have to be wearing a blindfold and earplugs to consider it political neutral. I think a better analogy would be an Irish parade in the 1860s or a black pride parade in the 1950s. While those events are politically neutral today, they weren’t at one time. And since we are all living in a state where gay marriage is made illegal by a statute passed by the representatives which we elected, I wouldn’t say it’s appropriate for the Hawks to have to go because the politicization of it is from the broader social context whether than what the parade marchers claim the primary purpose of the event to be. In other words, this is very much a live, contemporary issue; one with diverse and strongly held viewpoints. I would even go so far to aruge that taking the political element away from it does the event a huge disservice. Without any hope to change hearts and minds, it seems like it’s not capitalizing on its potential— changing hearts and minds.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jun 22, 2010 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions
How old are you?
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Damn
So I guess you’re not really Billy Charlebois then?
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
With all due respect,
from someone who lives in that community (though not in your state), Pride Parades aren’t meant to change hearts and minds. Haha, oh god no.
They’re meant to reassure members of the queer community that there are people like you out there, that there are things about your history that you don’t have to hide or be ashamed of, and that it’s okay to go out and enjoy yourself and not be self-conscious or scared for safety or any of the other myriad things a stereotyped minority deals with on a regular basis. It’s a parade of solidarity, meant more for the people who already identify with that label than for anyone else.
I won’t deny that there’s a political element to the parades (it’s a sad fact that just saying “we’re here, we’re queer, and we’re not going away” is still a political statement), but they’re not meant to convince or convert people. They’re a celebration of something that for most of known history, it’s been illegal to celebrate. I love the idea of having the Cup there, because the Parade is about celebrating and being joyful, and having the Cup there says that the Hawks want to celebrate and be joyful with everyone attends, which I think is entirely appropriate.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jun 22, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
This is exactly what I was trying to say. Thank you so much. The parade is about solidarity within the community. It’s heterosexual hubris, or maybe paranoia, to think that it is a political protest of some sort.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Well, that pretty much sums it up. It’s great that you feel a meme we developed to curtly deal with flamers can be used in this situation.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
don't be mad
You are calling me arrogant or paranoid here, which is incorrect. I’m not mad about it, it’s just not worth my time to sort this out.
That’s all I’m registering here.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
by cliffkoroll on Jun 23, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Whoa, cliff!
You misinterpreted that. I’m not calling you either one. I’m just regurgitating what my bleeding-heart liberal professors told me.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
I think you (or your professor) are, but it's cool
One of the things I enjoy about this site is the opportunity to relive my own youthful stupidity. Damn, I used to know IT ALL.
The last thing y’all need is a curmudgeon in his rocking chair constantly shaking his fist at you.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
by cliffkoroll on Jun 23, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah, as always, fuck you. I’m far from a bleeding-heart liberal, but on gay rights, yeah, I am.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
what's wrong
with being a bleeding heart liberal? as long as you back the talk, so be it. It’s better than being a homophobe who enjoys teabagging.
This is just more of the ambiguity between cliff and me. But, I’m not a bleeding-heart liberal. I am a staunch defender of equal rights for everyone, even though I’m a white, college-educated male.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Ahem
Show me a young Conservative and I’ll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I’ll show you someone with no brains.
- Churchill
Now go get a hair cut and put on a clean shirt for chrissakes.
And GET OFF OF MY LAWN!
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
That Churchill quote will always be one of his more memorable ones, and perhaps his most ironic.
You really didn’t answer the question, although I’m assuming you’re joking, right?
Ah, the question
What’s wrong with being a bleeding heart liberal?
Again, lemme turn to Churchill:
Some regard private enterprise as if it were a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look upon it as a cow that they can milk. Only a handful see it for what it really is – the strong horse that pulls the whole cart.
Most liberals, it seems to me, are in one of the first two camps. We can still be friends though, right?
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
Can I just ride in the cart?
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 25, 2010 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I think we're arguing a matter of degrees here ...
I understand what you’re saing and agree with all your principle points, I just feel that because the political state of affairs is a sad fact right now, the Hawks should not get invovled. It’s the same way as if there was a Christian rally that had a primary purpose of celebrating and being joyful and meant for those who are already members of the class. On the other hand, if a Hawk indivdually brought the cup to church, I would think that was great.
Just to illustrate how close I am to you on this issue, I would have no problem with the Hawks advertising in gay periodics or other media or even having a gay couple in their ads on television. The reason I would have no problem with that is because it would be for a purely commercial purpose without tacit support or approval of anything else.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jun 22, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Right, exactly, because the way to change society is to treat it with kid gloves and defer to the status quo.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Fuck man, I say march all the way up to the State Capitol building steps ...
But I don’t think it is a hockey team’s duty. I think Krome said it best up there – Sports shouldn’t get caught up in the culture wars. That’s what voting is for. Hockey is to allow people to zone out and forget about how shitty their credit score is.
Listen man, I totally appreciate your opinion and imagine we are ideologically alligned on the issues. And if you want to go pound the pavement in Springfield, i’ll get on the bus. I just think the Hawks should be as neutral as possible to attract as many people (yes, even people whose beiefs we find to be intolerant).
by Billy Charlesbois on Jun 22, 2010 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, this whole debate annoys me, and I let it come out in a sarcastic response.
We’re talking about a parade that celebrates someone as they are. We’re not talking about a religious parade. There are gay Christians and gay Muslims. We’re not talking about a political rally. There are gays who are against same-sex marriage (very few, but still). Homosexuals are still very much discriminated against at a person to person level on a daily basis, and sports is one of the main areas where this is true. The pride parade is exactly equivalent to a city-wide Irish parade, or a city-wide Polish parade, or a city-wide African-American celebration. It is not equivalent to a black power march, an anti-gun rally, or a Baptist revival.
Also, the Cubs have a float in the parade this year. So, the Hawks aren’t accepting in a vacuum.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
How about this ....
I agree that future generations have the ability and opportunity to make a gay pride parade as innocuous as those other parades. In other words, I think that in this case the Hawks should use:
by Billy Charlesbois on Jun 22, 2010 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
How about this...
The gay pride parade has been going on for 40 years. Why should we wait any longer to take off the kid gloves?
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Because Rush is wicked?
Alright, you win. Go to the gay pride parade and change the world. Now that that’s over, what’s the next non-issue the Hawks should take on?
by Billy Charlesbois on Jun 22, 2010 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I’ve been quiet, but I’ll join in. I think of a Pride Parade along the same lines as I used to look at the International Women’s Day parade. For the marchers, it was about solidarity mostly, but the parade’s origin was born out of the social (and economic) inequality women had to deal with as part of their daily lives at home, in the workplace, everywhere. It’s ludicrous, but that makes aligning yourself with such a march a political statement in my eyes … simply because basic human rights are at the core of the gathering. They were celebrating their “womenhood”, ya, but they were celebrating it, justifiably, in order to bring about change in both attitude and policy.
Likewise, the rights of gays and lesbians are not attended to as they are for heterosexuals, and although I think the parade is for the most part a reflection of the marchers’ solidarity and good will for one another, there is a backbone of intense engagement with respect to not being treated equally, and although it isn’t an outright protest or anything, it does have a quite, calm note of demonstration to it. Again, pathetically, that makes it a political stance—more in the eyes of those against gay rights, of course, but still a demonstration.
I hate the fact that it is a political gesture; but I see it as one simply because the current state of affairs is such that gays and lesbians do not have equal rights under the law. Supporting them in a parade, I think, is a show of support for them in rectifying that situation.
Which is fucking awesome.
www.mjt.org
Just read through my Committed Indian--Stanley Cup Edition.
It made me cry all over again.
The Chicago Blackhawks -- 2010 Stanley Cup Champions!!!!!!
"I can't stop crying and laughing." Preacher
Does anybody have a clip of Steeger's entrance
onstage during the parade? (I think that’s where the photo above is from?)
Blues fans
I enjoyed the commerative issue of the Committed Indian. I have to admit I have hopped onto the Blues blog and I thoroughly enjoyed their bitching and moaning. I think there was something cathartic in how the blog writers complained how Hawks fans talked trash to them after the Chicago brought home the cup. I guess I should cathartic for me. For over 11 years, I lived in St. Louis and as a Cubs fan they talked trash nonstop trash to me. After the Cardinals won the World Series in 2006, the taunts grew stronger and louder. When Hawks fans taunt Blues fans, I view that as simple retribution. Oh yeah, I made sure my friends in St. Louis knew who just won the Cup.
&Sopel;
We teach our kids about accepting everybody. Tolerate everybody, to understand where everyone is coming from
He really is pretty great! And he’s marching with his hot wife and kids!
it's entirely possible this isn't sarcasm
That man must really have a heart of gold.
I thought it was great that he opens his home to military families and now we find out he adopted someone who’s parents died 6 months apart. My respect for him grows each day.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
Wow
If Catfish is with the team next year, I will buy his t-shirt. Hell, I may just do it anyway.
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
Kudos
to McDonough, once again. I love that Catfish has volunteered, and that he’s bringing his whole family, too. Just phenomenal.
McDonough, though, good for him. It’s not an easy decision, unfortunately, considering that the number of people who’ll look at this negatively is probably larger than the number who will look at it positively. He gets a bad rap for his all-marketing all-the-time demeanor, but I think he has a solid moral compass, all things considered.
As to the political nature of the gesture? It’s there, no doubt. But the more this kind of thing happens, the less political it becomes. And that’s as it should be.
www.mjt.org
by ChicoMaki on Jun 22, 2010 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
now where did i put that old bar napkin...???
good for Sopes
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Not that I needed another reason
to adore Sopel but he is just AWESOMENESS! I almost wore my Sopel shirt today, too. Darnitall! I’m wearing it tomorrow for sure!!
Sopel has to be
one of the classiest guys in hockey. And life. What a great person.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Not that I needed another reason to love him
But what a classy guy. I look forward to seeing him and the cup on Sunday
by WhatWouldBurishDo on Jun 22, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, I take back all the things I said about Sopel throughout the season ...
I was really hard on Sopel over the year. I said he was sloppy his own end. I said he couldn’t handle a two man rush. I said he was just laying down and taking it.
Seriously, though, this is a classy move. Now I feel obligated to get out there and show my support.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jun 22, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
I love Sopel for bringing the Cup, but I love him more for that quote about his kids.
Combine this with the stuff he already does for the troops at Christmas, and he really deserves to be known as one of the best assets the Hawks have in the city at large as far as PR goes.
I hope he’s earned himself a little job security, based on how much he does for this organization’s image in the community. He seems like a very stand-up guy. I not-so-sekritly love our Catfish.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jun 22, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
To help you through the summer...
The Odd Couple, Episode 2: Kaner & Tazer do Vegas for the NHL Awards. Cameos by Ovie and Crosby. http://bit.ly/atDnEj
Chicago Blackhawks - 2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Things have changed forever, we're the Ramblin' Boys of Pleasure
Yeah, well, you stole it from Steve Allen.
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by Good Robot Us's on Jun 22, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Just read the post
you linked to. Nope, premises are completely different. Only thing that’s the same is the title. Mine is fictional nonsense. Yours is real-word analysis. When you used the word “bit” I took that to mean “comedy bit” with which the word “bit” is usually associated. There was no comedy in your Odd Couple post, just a straight opinion piece. If it would make you feel better, I will change the name of my comedy bit to Laurel and Hardy or Abbot and Costello or Martin and Lewis or the Smothers Brothers or any other comedy pairing that relies upon a straight man and a goofball. Apologies again if you thought I was appropriating your original post. I wasn’t I didn’t even know it existed.
you’re joking, right?
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
about what?
I thought I made my point pretty clearly.
yeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaah
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Let me turn on my meeshak translator...
Ok, I think he was asking if your response was a joke because if it wasn’t, it seemed like you took McClure’s comments rather seriously and I don’t think they were intended to be serious.
I’m thinking you must be new, so here’s some advice – everything is sarcastic here, or mostly. Just take everything with a grain (or 10) of salt. And that is my PSA of the day.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
It's cowering in the corner,
exhausted from overuse. Though I can see why ben was confused by meeshak’s responses.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
the prozac salt lick
a staple of the SCH community
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
Oh, that's a relief
Just was hoping to make some folks laugh. Didn’t want this to turn into a holy war over plagarism. I’ve learned on Twitter and now here that sarcasm is virtually impossible with the written word.
. KtG (that’s Katherine215) offered a good translation. once you get to know us and get used to it, it’ll be pretty obvious most of the time, but there are misunderstandings. cliff and i had an epic one, or maybe we were serious. i’m not sure we ever figured that out.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
I shall endeavor to persevere
in these comments. I appreciate the translations and heads-ups.
I don't know I was really drunk at the time
I was certainly in the right though.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
not impossible
simply a learned, highly nuanced skilled
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't know if that was
said in resignation or seriousness. Either way, I’m sorry?
Seriously
Am I doing something that’s been done? If so, I didn’t mean to. No one mentioned anything after my first post…
Hawks schedule out
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
I don't know that I like this schedule.
There’s hardly any divisional away games on a Saturday, which makes roadtripping difficult. And I wanted to try to go to either Montreal or Boston for a game and they’re both Tuesday night games.
And there’s 16 pairs of back to back games. Isn’t that high for a non-Olympic year?
btw, thakns for sharing, stacie!
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
At least two of the Columbus games are on Fridays
That wouldn’t be too bad for a trip to see BigC and sabotage the cannon.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
Yeah, it's just that Friday games
require vacation days from work which is the hard part. I would manage, of course, for a trip to Columbus or St. Louis, it’s just not convenient. :( And the NHL should be all about making things convenient for me!
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I know - next year they should definitely consult us first.
What were they thinking?
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
When I rule the world,
things like this won’t be a problem. :)
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
oh great benevolent one
When you going to get started on this? There’s alot of shit that needs fixed in the NHL.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
My Campaign for Control
will start on 4th of July. InDependence Day!
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the newspapers, they were really cool
Ill try to mail out the DVD you wanted by friday (almost done). I’ll overnite it or something
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 22, 2010 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
my sister is meeting me for dinner that night
I may try to convince her to go to the party instead, either way, I’ll mail it just in case
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 22, 2010 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Bring her!
Did I ever send you my address? I’ve completely lost my mind this week and can’t remember.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
It was on the envelop
unless its changed
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 22, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
It did or it will in 4 days
I guess I never emailed it. Ok, sending now.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
send it to my real email addres
first initial, last name @gmail
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 22, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
ugh.
I just sent it to the other one, after searching for 5 minutes because I couldn’t remember how the hell I filed it in my address book. I’ll forward it.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions
word
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 22, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
COME TO COLUMBUS
I need to show these people that there is a better use for the color red than Ohio State
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 22, 2010 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm looking at the 10/15, possibly
I think whatwouldburishdo will be in Cincy then, so we can just snag her and fit in some more hockey.
we play Nashville in Nashville on at Sat (Nov 13)
anyone feel like paying Chris Burton a visit?
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
the question is
Does Burton want to see us? That could be a fun trip too.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
bring good booze and he'll likely look kindly on a visit
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I saw those
and would be interested in either of those games.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm definitely going to Nashville one of those Saturdays
about time we booed Chris Burton in public. :P
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder how much crash space he has
Or we could do our part to help Nashville’s tourism industry after the flood.
by shinkicker on Jun 22, 2010 1:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
if we're hoping to sleep on his floor
I should rethink making that sign that says, Burton is a dirty gutter slut, huh?
it's entirely possible this isn't sarcasm
Use it as a sleeping mat.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
where is Burton?
these threads are funnier when he tosses his $.02 in. And funniest when he tosses his $.02 in while blitzed.
it's entirely possible this isn't sarcasm
he did say he was only on for the bandwagon
I think he just went back to music city and forgot all about us.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
I'm up for road-tripping
to Columbus. My wife loves it there – she’s had a few conferences there before. Nashville would be equally cool.
"It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man." - Jeremy Roenick
by The Fearless Freep on Jun 22, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Its an easy drive too
and wicked cheap
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 22, 2010 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions
that’s not the only way you’re easy
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
perfect for the ladies of SCH?
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
if not, he’d certainly settle for a case of Yuengling
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
I'd take Yuengling
its been many years since I had it
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 22, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
dont bash my gameday beer
it served us well
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 22, 2010 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe the women of SCH
have higher standards that cheap and easy (OK maybe not when we are drinking)
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
typing fail
“than”
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
Stats
Longest road trip: 6 games
Back-to-backs: 18
Games near NYC: 1 (or 3 if you count Boston and DC)
Isn't the long road trip when the circus is at the UC?
They do that every year – right?
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
there's usually 2 lengthy trips
The Circus Trip and The Ice Capades Trip. I can’t remember which is first.
Ditto for CNS
Circus is in November
Ice Capades is January-ish I think? Both are 6 games this year.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
My guess
Circus Trip: 11/17 – 11/27
Sonja Henie Trip: 2/1-2/12
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
I agree
I think this past season’s was earlier, remember how they were gone almost all of January?
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I can’t remember when the ice capades trip was in years past, but maybe they bumped it up last year due to the Olympic Break – that way the Hawks wouldn’t have a month without playing at home?
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
I think you are right
February 09 seemed like they weren’t home at all.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
If they had had the power, they should have scheduled the ice capades during the Olympics, with homestands on either side.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
That would have been the smart thing to do
but alas, this is the NHL and the ice capades we’re dealing with. Not the brightest bulbs.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
ice capades probably didn't want to have the Chicago stand during the Winter Olympics
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I like the Sonja Henie reference
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
I'm thinking Nov 1st is a Date
For NYC area SCH at MSG!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
OMFG!
If we are going to do a SCH meeting at NYR, well I’m thinking it must be the “cheap” seats!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I've gotten them for about $25?
it was a tuesday game in December against Columbus, but I got them for less than $30
it depends on the game
and which half of the 300 level you’re sitting in. Rows 8 and back are cheaper than 1-7. They’ve implemented premium pricing for games against big teams. With next season’s price increases, I would be surprised if you could get anything but standing room for under $30.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions
For full season tickets
Row 9 of 300 level went from $15 to $20 per game for upcoming season. Really not a bad increase IMO. I was expecting more. I assume the price for purchasing them as single game tickets will be higher, although those prices are not available as of this writing.
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
those are football prices!
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Yeah
My jaw dropped, especially considering how much tickets are for the Islanders!
But the Hawks only come out by me twice, once at NYR and once at BOS, so it is what it is.
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll stomach it
My transportation costs are negligible here. I’ll buy you a drink if you come out, TMFF
I WILL be there!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
OMG
At the Islanders game, we paid about $42 for tix that look like they cost $110 or $130 on that chart. I mean i know it’s MSG, but you’ve got to be kidding me! It’s the RANGERS.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmm
We play at Minny on my B-Day. PTO day anyone?
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
when’s that?
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
the end of February was always my favorite time of winter, because it seemed like it should be ending soon, but the reality of the next two months of arctic chill hadn’t yet sunk in.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
In MN or here?
March or April here can sometimes go either way. Or both ways.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
March has been breaking my heart since 2006
It’s supposed to be SPRING. but nooooo
by shinkicker on Jun 22, 2010 1:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Mine's 2/27
and it’s my 40th so I’m definitely asking my family for tickets this year
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
Mine's 2/15
and it’s my 30th. I’m asking my family to forget.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Gee thanks for making me feel really old :-(
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
Mine’s March 14, and I’m turning 12.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
such a smartass as such a young age :)
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
I'll be LII at the end of October
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Ha! ROMANES EUNT DOMUS!
Now let me pull out my abacus to calculate mine
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
now that wasn't so hard, was it?
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
damn, I forgot about that joke
I just got that mental image of you counting your change to buy french fries.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
sorry!!
isn’t 40 the new 30? Or something like that.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I refuse to let my age bother me
I’m more like “woo hoo I made it to another year”
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
Most of the time, I don't care how old I am
I just hate how it feels like time is going so quickly sometimes. I just want to take a time out and slow the game down sometimes.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Bah
I’m turning 35 on Friday, and I’m still a spring chicken. So don’t fret about your age, youngin, and stay off my lawn!
I still feel young
I think it’s just that the last few weeks seem to have flown by in a blur and I’m projecting that on my life.
Sorry I won’t make your bday gathering! If it was any other day, I would absolutely be there.
by Katherine215 on Jun 23, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Mine is on 2/28 proper
I’ll be 35. Bleah.
I think I’m going to celebrate my half bday – February birthdays are so depressing.
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
Leap Year baby
here. The Hawks don’t play on my birthday this year but that’s probably good since I don’t have one. They will be here (@ Caps) 2 weeks later so I know what I’ll be getting for my psuedo bday
by Chris Roberts on Jun 22, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I missed
being a leap year baby by 7 hours. My mom had already been in labor with me for 24+ hours, she wasn’t willing to wait any longer.
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
See you in April
Hoping to get up there in early April (most likely for the Blues game on the 6th, though the TB game may be the easier tix to get). Then want to do a road watch at the BL for a game that week. Also hope to get Cub tix that week cuz I gotsta go to Wrigley when I’m there.
by Chris Roberts on Jun 22, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Hawks Schedule
I hate how many late season games we have against the Wings…
Play those fucking games around Christmas and Thanksgiving time. Not fucking March
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
the home and home against detroit to finish up always sounds like a good idea
until you realize that the games probably won’t end up meaning anything
Ditto for CNS
Agreed.
Agreed. If both teams sucked and were bubble teams each and every year it would be cool. The NHL is wasting two fantastic games here.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
get used to this phrase
From ESPN’s release of the home openers……
The defending Stanley Cup-champion Chicago Blackhawks will host Central Division rival Detroit on Oct. 9, while the Pittsburgh Penguins will open the new CONSOL Energy Center on Oct. 7 versus the Philadelphia Flyers.
Read through that bold phrase a few times…….damn, it looks even better than I thought it would.
Ditto for CNS
You know what gives me goosebumps?
Ice cubes on the back of my neck.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
For me
it’s that part in Big C’s SCF video where the music stops and Campbell passes the puck to Kane on the left half boards.
yeah me too.......
I just wanted an excuse to post Kane’s goal against Minnesota.
For some reason, when people talk about the Hawks’ goals of the year, this goal gets left out. You hear a lot of talk about Toews goal against nashville, Hossa knocking the puck in out of mid air, even Barker’s coast to coast goal earlier in the year, but for my money, 88’s goal against MN is the one I’d vote for in a goal of the year poll. Maybe I should do a fanshot for goal of the year….I’ll work on this.
Ditto for CNS
do it as a fanpost
you get to post multiple videos and probably add in a poll.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I may do a fanpost
and ask for suggestions and then edit that fanpost with clips, analysis, and a poll, just so that I don’t leave out any worthy goals.
I have no experience in putting together videos, so I may have to consult CNS or BigC.
Ditto for CNS
Don't forget
Buff’s OT goal (though I forget who it was against)
Rangers
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions
You rang?
You’ll probably be able to find most of the goals/plays you want to use already clipped and posted on YouTube. And you can just insert them in your FanPost. (I know you probably know all this)
If you can’t find a video by searching with keywords, NHLVideo posts all of the game highlights and you can search their channel by team names and game date (ex: Kings @ Flames 12/17/09)
If you send me a link to any videos you need clipped, I can do that and re-upload them to YouTube (just don’t give me more than 10!) Otherwise, if you’re on a PC like me and don’t have Adobe CS, it is a pain in the butt to work with FLV video files. You’d need to download multiple programs to extract, convert, decompress, and edit the videos.
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Just shoot me an email with links if so
and give me a day or two
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
you can use keepvid
use the NHLVideo clips, and then combine them into one vid, maybe countdown style, or just put your top 5 contenders and then add a poll for goal of the year (for me its Hossa’s Jedi Mind Goal where he swats it out of mid air)
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 22, 2010 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't open the link here at work
but if you’re talking about that goal from the left faceoff circle he threaded through the top shelf left corner of the net, then I’m with you. That was my favorite goal of the year.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal.
that's the one
and I said in the post above that it doesn’t get mentioned a lot, but Sam mentions it in the Commemorative CI……
Kane’s goal in October against the Wild, fitting his shot into a space in the top shelf that would make a virgin’s honeypot look cavernous
Ditto for CNS
I had the Commemorative edition snail mailed.
Looking forward to reading it. I’m glad that goal was remembered. That more than Hossa’s mid-air swat was one of the sweetest goals I’ve ever seen. I could watch that one over and over and never get tired of it. Too bad that wasn’t the Cup winning goal even though I won’t tire of seeing that elusive shot either.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal.
One of the best goals of the year!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
It looks like Kane looks at the ref to see if it was a goal
I don’t think you can see it on this one, but if you watch the full scene on YouTube, Kane seems to look at the ref to see if it actually went in before he celebrates.
The exact opposite of “the goal” in game 6.
The Chicago Blackhawks -- 2010 Stanley Cup Champions!!!!!!
"I can't stop crying and laughing." Preacher
I was at this game and the result was also anti climatic (as it was in game 6)
My dad and I saw Kane’s move, and the shot, but we didn’t know it was in because the puck jumped out so quickly. Plus, I think the spotlight went on before the goal light, which only made things worse.
Same type of reaction though…“Was that a goal, I don’t know……it was! Holy shit that was amazing”
Ditto for CNS
the youtube clip reminds me
that I’ve really taken a liking to John Forslund. I really enjoyed his play by play for the playoff games he did, he kind of has a cool and different way of phrasing things, and he has a different voice. Question for the broadcasting snobs out there, am I off base here?
Ditto for CNS
I'm with you.
Goosebumps here too. My wife just started doing the Chelsea Dagger thing too when she heard it.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal.
^^^ Smiles!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Hawks v. Nucks
@ UC 10/20
@ GMP 11/20
@ UC 12/3
@ GMP 2/4
Easily the best non-divisional rivalry. I hate me some Nucks.
http://www.royalskingdom.blogspot.com
The List:
1. Detoilet
2. Canucks
3. Blues
I expect St. Louis to get progressively more annoying as time goes by.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
After reading their blog
I almost feel that no one hates us as much as the Blues right now and we didn’t even have to beat them in the playoffs to earn that hatred.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
Sucks to be them doens't it!
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, even if they won the Cup
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Can't we just drop all the homosexuality discussion?
oh, the goalie from Greece? Never mind…
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal.
Sopes
You may want to rethink about brining your kids for two reasons:
1) the parade route is obscenely long so make sure you’re on a float or in a convertible or something. The kids will tire long before it’s over.
2) the crowd is pretty well behaved, but there are just some things you can’t un-see and the kids will have an awkward question or two before the day is over.
Also, is SCH going to be able to use the usual picture for the Blues GDT now?
an elementary school class marched in the parade last year
and there haven’t been reports of them being permanently traumatized.
and I’m pretty sure they will be on a float, since who in their right mind would want to carry the cup that far? and everyone’s gotta be able to see it.
that picture was pretty douchey to begin with, so I’m fine with it being retired.
Crew
they’re my choice for the next SF vs LA series that we can actually watch. (so not next week’s)
so you mean
a game the week of the 30th of July (cause I’m going to the NEXT series vs. SF w/ my Dad, in LA)?
it's entirely possible this isn't sarcasm
yeah, it's the next weekend series
I’ll probably be falling asleep half way through most the games on work nights. damn 9:10 starts.
Not Touche?
I thought they’d be lining up to get Sopes on their float ;)
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
Props to a Good Guy
Niedermayer was a dam fine player. The NHL will miss him.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
Weren't most people expecting him to retire anyway?
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
It'd seemed
up in the air the last 2 years so this isn’t that surprising. He was a hell of a good player though.
by Chris Roberts on Jun 22, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Switching from hockey to the World Cup is so frustrating
In hockey, the players could get hit in the face with a hammer & just keep playing, but in football, they writhe around for a few minutes whenever the vuvuzelas get too loud.
Sorry, I don't follow soccer
are you saying the guy in yellow was penalized because the guy in green ran into him?
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
You're missing the point
the guy in green ran into him and acted like he was hurt. What you described is a totally different scenario.
But yeah, the ref was looking at something else and, presumably, the linesman/fourth official had a bad angle looking at it, so told the ref to give him a 2nd yellow card, therefore sending him off.
oh no, I absolutely get the diving point
It is one of the reasons I haven’t been able to get into soccer. I just got into a long conversation about it here once and don’t want to go down that road again.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
FIFA should review every Yellow / Red card that is issued
after the match is complete. Anyone taking a dive like this should be suspended for the next match.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
If they did allow replay,
Ireland instead of France would have probably been knocked out today.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
all the more reason
it was a joy watching the French flame out in a blaze of glory despondent shame
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
After such a poor performance
and the shit the players pulled, I wonder what kind of welcome the team will receive when they return to France.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
The Game is so Fast...
It’s almost impossible to get every call right!
Seriously though plays/calls like that should get reviewed regardless. For a player to miss a game for that is ridiculous! Maybe the rules should be changed in that after every yellow issued FIFA looks at the call after the game and decides if it was actually a penalty.
The Game is so Fast
You are kidding, right?
(My sincerest apologies to all of the rabid soccer fans among the SCH faithful)
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compared to hockey, no of course not. compared to American football….i would say yes.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 23, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I think people complain the least about American football
in terms of the ref’ing, probably because of how widely challenges can be used, with video review. That and using 3 refs so they can actually see things happening! (of course, you’d think that was the case in baseball… but, meh)
a recent, glaring excpetion aside
it sees to me that baseball umps are far and away superior to their counterparts, tho the job is comparatively easier, since there are fewer moving parts.
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by cliffkoroll on Jun 23, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
To be fair
there are twice as many players on the pitch than in hockey, and when you have off-the-ball incidents like the one involving Kaka to try & keep up with along with the rest of the game, you can see where it gets difficult for the refs.
It’s that it’s difficult for the refs that makes it so annoying that there isn’t a review process.
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Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Agreed
Truly top-notch refs like Pierluigi Collina can get by without, but they’re few & far between.
Somewhat related, someone did a study recently & concluded that offside is literally impossible to call because linesmen can’t keep track of the ball & the position of the players, etc. in real-time. But FIFA/UEFA/the FA keep saying video reviews would take away from the game’s “tradition”. Horseshit.
"Truly top-notch refs like Pierluigi Collina"
You mean the only ref in soccer history to be liked by the fans?
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Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
horseshit
by puppetmasterp on Jun 23, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
horseshit
by puppetmasterp on Jun 23, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
what the hell is wrong with this reply button?
by puppetmasterp on Jun 23, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
what about on-the-ball non-calls or bad calls?
like the elbow to the face Dempsey took in the Algerian box this last game? He started bleeding, and there was no foul called, much less a card. One of the US’s biggest strengths is they don’t tend to really dive. They get annoyed, but then pick themselves up and try again.
But the refing this WC has been sloppy beyond belief, even just compared to other soccer refing.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 23, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't get me wrong
ref’ing in football is still annoying as shit. I was just trying to defend football from the sarcastic “The game is so fast” comment. It’s slow on the screen (esp. when compared to hockey), but not so slow when you’re on the pitch with the players.
Anyone who disagrees
should just try playing the game. I find it’s one of those sports that’s more fun to play than watch.
as a soccer novice
i find this incredibly easy to believe.
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by cliffkoroll on Jun 23, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
After many years of wishing FIFA would get its collective head out of its rather gigantic ass, I’ve accepted that Sepp is even more of a stalwart than Selig and there’s no chance in this lifetime that there will be video review or an appeal process for cards (or at least one that doesn’t have a single-option control chart).
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
no, more accurately
the guy in yellow got thrown out of the game for that. And has to miss the next two games, including the first “playoff” game.
and he’s one of their best players. good thing its Brazil, and they have a whole lot of other good players.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Then I think it should be
up to FIFA to reinstate the player as if the foul never happened.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
yes but FIFA's been asked to do that before
and in relation to World Cup semi-final or finals games (i believe the Germans had an issue in the last World Cup Final, maybe with Michael Ballack having to miss it. or maybe the European Cup?), and even in such an important game, they declined to change the ruling on the field.
I don’t see them changing their stance now.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree,
I don’t think FIFA will change. I had to look this up, Ballack missed the WC Final against Brazil in 2002 after being sent off against South Korea.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
of course, b/c in 2006 it was France v. Italy in the final. I think my brain is still trying to pretend the Italians never won.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Italy has a football team?
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
kind of, but mostly just a bunch of divas
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
France has a football team?
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
no just a bunch of divas who refuse to go to practice
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
England has a football team?
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
no just a bunch of divas who look like they never go to practice
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Your answers to these teams got
funnier with each answer. Probably because of the truth in them.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
thank Europe for fielding such hilarity this year
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Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
or blame the ball
Jabulani = soccer parity
the way
Salary Cap = hockey parity.
maybe even more so.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
the ball’s effect is overrated.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
maybe
but there IS an effect. i’ve definitely noticed it, even just in the way the ball flies through the air on a solid strike.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
maybe it is altitude, BUT
ahnfire today asked me “is that what they mean by ‘bending’ the ball?” — on Korea’s last goal.
This ball makes everyone and anyone look like David Beckham in his prime. THAT is not a small effect.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
i think you’re just forgetting what world cup football looks like. the ball does move a lot, and if a player gets a good grip, it probably bends sharper than any ball i’ve seen played with, but i don’t think France was eliminated by South Africa because of the Jabulani, and Spain didn’t lost to Switzerland because the Jabulani makes Gelson Fernandes look like Juninho.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
no, no, it's true about the eliminations
the one eliminated deserved to be eliminated. But the overall quality of play….I think it’s much lower this world cup, and much more flat among players. the great players don’t look great, and the mediocre ones look better than normal.
and i DO think that some of this can be accounted for by the fact that the ball is easier for weaker players to strike and send longer distances. and that for better skilled players, who have spent years developing the nuances of how hard to strike and ball from what distance….the ball is messing with every detail their reflexes “know” about how to play the games with precision.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
my memory of previous world cups is that the stars usually have only one or two great games a piece, and then people think that game represented their level of play throughout the entire tournament.
then again, the Americans have looked amazing, while England have looked decidedly mediocre. but England are the most overrated team in the world, and our level of finesse has grown by leaps and bounds in just the last four years.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
nothing to be said about England
other than “pathetic”…and the US is always underrated. But look at some others: Uruguay and Mexico have looked amazing. Chile has looked amazing. Argentina has been dominant, but the best play is not coming from their best players.
The lowest skill-level teams are still at the low end. But the star-loaded teams have not looked good. And the mid-level teams have looked fantastic. i don’t remember this being the case last WC, maybe in 2002 but to a much lesser extent.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
correction Argentina
Messi’s played great, but not scored despite a shitload of SOGs. Very Hossa-esque so far.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't understand the sport very well
But at least yesterday it looked like the Greek goalkeeper was going all Halak until his team left him out to dry.
Well, Mexico is at least as good as the US, and always performs very well in South American competition. They took third in the 2007 Copa America, falling to Argentina in the semis, and beating Uruguay in the third-place game. Uruguay has been on the up and up for years. and, as you said, Messi’s been great.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Was this ball even tested for this altitude?
Under normal circumstances, I don’t think it would be neccesary but since the ball was specifically made for the World Cup, I would think that it would be taken into consideration.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
It was heavily tested. I don’t think adidas would release a ball without a year or more of testing.
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Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
I wouldn't think so either
There’s been so many complaints about the ball by the teams that I wasn’t sure.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
it’ll be more infamous, but i’m willing to be Halladay’s will be better remembered by name, due to his quality as a pitcher.
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Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
it'll be better remembered
because Halladay will be better remembered.
This is the only thing most people know Galarraga for. (thus far)
Besides have four A’s in his name.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
never noticed that
thanks for pointing that out!
I'll remember the date
of the Halladay only because May 29,2010 was the first time I ever saw the Hawks win a Stanley Cup Final game.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
that's right!
I remember thinking “no way can Philly have that many good things happen in one night. We have to win.”
I thought
Get this fucking baseball off the screen!
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
well, I heard about the perfect game
before I could watch the Hawks game, so it was a balm.
I think that was a good one to have over with before I started watching.
but they were the team of destiny
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
they really were
everyone was talking about how the Hawks were destined for this Cup because of how good they were, and how they’d come back against Nashville and swept the Sharks and I was just like, “Philly was down 3-0 in a series against Boston.”
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Read that again
Philly was down 3-0 in a series against Boston.
Hehe. Sorry. :|
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
If it were easy to come back against a push-over team, then it would have happened more than four times in the history of North American professional sports.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
I only make fun of them now because we beat the Flyers in the end
but the Bruins also lost some players just when the Flyers’ returned.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
True. I was saying the whole series that, if Philly completed the comeback, it wasn’t really fair, because Boston lost one of their top scorers in Game 3, and Simon Gagné came back for Philly in Game 4.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
i'm just glad we didn't implode like Boston did
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Just imagine if Burish had gone down in Game 3. Or 2. Or one of the ones he played in.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
i hear burish goes down a lot
fml, I had to say it.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I was going to
but I figured someone else would.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
serves him right...
does he actually think he has a rightful space on that field? bully.
Which always makes me think it this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B53W-7tk4Uw
Amazing how such a simple video, done effectively, has almost 4M views.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Clearly, he bit his tongue!
That’s got to be it, right? No one would ever “fake” an injury like this.
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I miss the hair spray
in years past when they would dive and roll around and hold their shin (why do they always hold the only part of their body that actually is covered by pads?) they would get taken off to the sidelines to be looked at by the trainer and apparently hair spray was the Robitussin of the World Cup because every team’s trainer would whip out a can of aerosol and spray their leg. Then they would get right back up and jog out there.
For anyone who was actually worried about losing Hossa
Or all one of you, anyway… ESPNChicago:
“Bowman said those three players — who represent the core, as well as Marian Hossa, won’t be moved.”
even though he wasn’t mentioned seabrook better be safe!
by justforkicks on Jun 22, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Toews, Kane and Keith
have No Movement Clauses. Bowman couldn’t gety of them if he wanted to.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Canucks interested in Ladd
Well, if they want him then they can have him as Bickell is more than ready to take his place. Article from TSN.
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Why do you say that?
What makes you think Bickell is ready to take Ladd’s place? I see Ladd as NEVER taking a shift off, always plays hard and scores (few, but) very timely goals. Not that he was the main reason we won the Cup, but I’d hate to see him go. I don’t think Bickell has been seen enough to make a judgment. This is nothing against Bickell—I’m just wondering why you think he’d be an adequate replacement.
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My value of Andrew Ladd isn’t very high at least not at a reported $2.25 mil per season. He isn’t worth that much IMHO.
I’ll be forever grateful for any player that made this season possible, but when there are cuts to be made you have to look at which player’s you can replace and which one’s you can’t. Based on that, Ladd is replaceable.
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Shouldn't Ladd's work on defense be taken into account?
Who was with Bolland on the line that shutdown the top lines of the Nucks and Sharks in the playoffs? That’s got to count for something, and it’s not easily learned. The more I think about it, the less I think of Bickell’s ability to step in here.
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IMHO, he is worth that much
especially for a team that doesn’t have insane cap issues like the Hawks. But maybe that was part of your point?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
It's funny
Halfway through the season we were saying how glad we were that Brouwer was doing so well because it’d make it easier to lose Ladd. How things have changed… but given their respective prices, it still makes sense.
I think you’re right though, he very much is worth that much and that’s why I’m worried about how moveable he is, based on demand.
2nd or 3rd round pick in this year’s draft which is more than sufficient for Ladd.
Troy Brouwer is another that could replace Ladd efficiently as well.
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I disagree strongly....
Troy Brouwer fucking disappeared in the playoffs. Two years in a row, Ladd was a force to be reckoned with.
I would HATE to see Ladd go and it would be fucking suck to have to watch him with the Nucks of all teams.
Hjammer-Ladd-Niemi….That should be the priority list.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
Brouwer did disappear,
I wonder how much of that had to do with his Dad’s health.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
i think a lot
He was playing really well until his dad’s sickness. It devastated Brouwer and his 1st decent game in months came after he heard he was doing better
I would definitely be asking more for Ladd
and agree that he has been a consistent and solid player, but I also think he will be gone in the next few days.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Ladd is an RFA
so we either match an offer or let him go for compensatory draft pick(s).
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
ahh, that's right
thanks
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
would hate to see Ladd go
but there’s absolutely nothing we can do to keep many of these role players.
Bickell is more than ready to take his place
What? ok, that is your opinion. Me, I’d keep Ladd before Versteeg, or that Buff guy. You can have Ladd and Skille on a checking line for the price of Versteeg.
As for Bickell, he wasn’t playing ahead of Eager last year. Ladd was your top LW (with Sharp at center) and especially on defense.
Definitely based on work ethic
I’d agree 100%, but I wonder if there’s a question of replaceability and moveability. I think a lot of teams are thinking the same way and are pretty high on Ladd (winning the Cup twice might help, too). My question though, is do we have more capable bruisers coming up through the system (or that we can acquire), or more skill players? People also never seem to mention Steeger’s underrated two-way skills (his PK time as evidence of that) in any discussion I’ve seen of him.
I’d hate to lose either but I’m still undecided on which is better to keep. People are probably in agreement that Steeger’s more likely to be overpaid, but that has ramifications on his moveability too.
Also to consider
Versteeg may not have reached his full potential yet, while Ladd almost certainly has. And, of course, trading Versteeg means your username would be somewhat out-of-date.
aren't they the same age?
why has Ladd reached his potential if Versteeg hasnt?
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, wow, so they are. Good catch.
But I dunno, it’s just a feeling I get. Maybe it’s because Ladd’s been in the NHL longer.
I think Versteeg has more scoring talent
but Ladd’s is more of a Madden-type of talent. Not as flashy but just as necessary.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with Versteeg’s potential. He does have his usual brain-farts that drive you crazy but he does posses one thing that Ladd can’t match and that’s top-level skill. You just can’t teach that. Dumping the puck you can … eventually.
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if steeger gets away
and I fear he will (Ladd will be cheaper), we will rue that day.
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especially if he stays in the conference
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Versteeg hasn't reached his potential
because he keeps doing “Country Stupid” things
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
When players like Ladd
have their name keep appearing on the Cup it’s more than just coincidence. These are the type of players that a team must have in order to win championships. I hope Ladd is one of the guys they try to keep. I think it’ll come back to us in a bad way if he leaves, especially to another WC team.
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
this argument applies to Tomas Kopecky
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 23, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
actually
i think Kopecky contributed more to his first cup win than Ladd to his. Ladd had JUST come into the NHL, and played just enough to get on the cup. he got lucky.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 23, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sure how to take your reply
But to clarify, I didn’t mean to make Ladd out as more than he is. Just that he’s the type of complementary player that championship teams must have. If Kopecky is in that same category than maybe he adds more, and is more valuable, to the teams that he plays with than all of the sarcasm and criticism that comes his way via comments made on SCH would indicate.
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Potentially good return
Canucks going public with their desire, there must be others after him (Canucks signalling others to back off?). One of my faves, but if we lose him, should get good return given demand.
If this happens,
I wonder how well Ladd and Kessler will get along.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Tallon is already at it...
It hasn’t taken long for Dale to start making moves for the Panthers by trading their most complete player Nathan Horton. Great way to entice people to buy season tickets in Sunrise, eh?
Great move for Boston though as they get a dependable goal-scorer to complement Marc Savard’s passing abilities on the first line.
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Florida now has 5 picks in the top 50
guessing they’re in rebuild mode. Also, Horton wanted a trade.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I’d rather have Jason Spezza than those picks for Florida right now. Their fanbase deserves that much for their top scorer to leave and not having won a single playoff game since 1997. Picks don’t help sell tickets in a market that is close to dead as time is not on the Panthers ownership side.
Something tells me there is more to come from Dale between now and Draft day.
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Pierre LeBrun reports that the price for Buff
is a 1st round draft pick and a prospect.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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Sure, but nobody will give that.
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How do you know
what some GM will do to make his fanbase happy? You think Tallon is the only one to overrate Buff? I bet a lot of GMs and coaches think they could be the guy to motivate Buff for a full season.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
shit, all you need is nuggets
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly!
get a Mickey D’s deal signed for him and the sky’s the limit with Buff.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, he's had 2 pretty good postseason showings
someone might just think that Buff could be a playoff God (hell, even the FifthFeather have brought up the idea once or twice).
to be fair
he was a playoff God as soon as they got him the hell off the blue line.
STUD. Without him, we’re looking at possible defeat in Vancouver and/or a much tougher S.J. series.
Oh, I'm not disputing that
but against Nashville & Philly, he was so-so. I still don’t think we have a large enough sample size to anoint him as the next Claude Lemieux. I’d rather sell while his stock is high & let another team take a chance instead of counting on a third consecutive performance.
That said, I’d be sad to see him go.
"Without him, we’re looking at possible defeat in Vancouver and/or a much tougher S.J. series."
I don’t know if you can say that for sure. If someone else is in Buff’s role, who’s to say they wouldn’t have had the same success or better? It’s not a guarantee they wouldn’t have gotten the job done. Or maybe plays develop differently and Toews and Kane pick up a few more goals, or someone else does, if Buff doesn’t.
I’m not sold that it was simply Buff that made the whole difference, and not just a guy camped out in front of the net.
by Katherine215 on Jun 23, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
not sold that it was simply Buff
Buff was asked why he was playing so well. He said, I’m on a line with those two kids…
Yeah, I heard that
I also think he was being a little modest when asked that. I think he played his role well in these playoffs and can’t say for certain another guy would have done just as well. But I just think it’s possible that someone else could have done the same things he did, or close to it.
by Katherine215 on Jun 23, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I think he played his role
That is the issue isn’t it? To me with salary cap issues the Hawks are going to need to become more of a classic team. One with two scoring lines, a checking line and an energy line.
So if that is the case then where is Buf on that team? He’s not on the top two lines. I don’t have him on the checking line, either. To me he is Eagers replacement 5on5 and shows up on the PP. I’m not sure the Hawks can afford that salary if he doesn’t have a top 6 forward position.
I don't see Buff on this team
for the salary he makes and the effort he’s shown the last 2 seasons. But I’m not a GM, so who knows. I think he should be a second liner but he hasn’t displayed the consistent effort that position would require.
request – when you quote someone, can you try to use quotes or the blockquote thing or something? It’s probably just me, but I get confused when you use the subject line to quote someone else’s comment before I figure out that it’s actually another person’s comment. Sorry, i really don’t mean to be nitpicky…
by Katherine215 on Jun 23, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I’d be shocked if Byfuglien was traded this off-season. I really would. Campbell, on the other hand, wouldn’t be so shocking.
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You make outlandish statements almost as often as I do. Someone should keep track of how often they pan out.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
That the amazing part
I do kind of keep track of hawks’ bold statements. He’s right more than you would think. He’s basically my negative version of stacie on SCH when I get worried about something.
Hawks’ said there’s ‘no fucking way’ this will happen. OK, I’m away from ledge.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Although, he did predict that Montreal was dead against Washington. I believe he even used the ‘no fucking way’ phrase after they went down 3-1.
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Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Ahh, well that brings me to my next point
I also loosely keep track of your outlandish comments and weight hawks’ comments about Candian teams based on the fact that he is from BC. So when you said Montreal could upset Washington, I went with your prediction and wasn’t surprised in the least when it actually happened.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
are you saying
you have a stat for that?
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
It my CNasS-O-Meter
If I wrote a stats post like VerStig or gmh, it would involve many spin-the wheel graphics.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
but I agree
the two of you through out comments with such authority that I’m inclined to swallow them whole until I think about them.
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And who are we getting in return for Campbell?
and for how much? And how are we convincing him to waive his NTC?
You keep making this statement, I keep asking these kinds of questions, and I never seem to get answers.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Bowman can have my first-born if he pulls this shit off
As it is, I think this is just his “starting” bid. Probably going to lower the price or something. I don’t know.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
You can keep your first-born as it’s not happening.
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you're bright and perky today!
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions
As always. Do I ever disappoint?
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everyday.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Hawks10 is the ORIGINAL!
Laaarmer’s just a poser.
He’s proof those Canadians really do take their hockey seriously. You’d think he’d be all giggly for a few weeks though.
It sucks that we really only had a week or two to bask in the glory and now we have to start the worrying all over again so soon.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Hawks10 hahaha.
No, I’m still basking in the glow of the Cup (remember the Olympic GOLD?) and will remind anyone from other blogs that we are the defending CUP CHAMPS.
Just tired a reading how Byfuglien is going to get traded when he isn’t and that Ladd is the “new” MVP of this team and that he is irreplaceable. It’s stupid as the he is a 3rd line winger and not a great one at that. Yes, he is defensively aware and can bring some physicality but by no means a necessity to keep. Any one of the ’Hawks call-ups could easily replace him.
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"Ladd is the "new" MVP of this team and that he is irreplaceable."
Please. No one is saying that.
The “problem” with this team is that it was the ultimate in “team” contributions this year, all over the ice. When you look as closely as we do at what each player brings to the table, it’s hard to see us winning the way we did without Sopel blocking shots, Bolland-Ladd-Versteeg shutting down top lines, Buff netting 5 game winners, Tazer dominating in face-offs, etc. Ladd’s contributions of toughness, leadership, defense, and timely goal scoring are NOT that easily replaced by some callup from Rockford. If he was that replaceable, they would have replaced him.
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I almost forgot
Thanks for inadvertently reminding me. I wonder how easy it will be to deal Ladd with a fracture and ligament damage? He was obviously able to come back and play the final 3 games of the SCF (which supports your point), but do you think that his value might be deflated due to the uncertainty of an injured player? He’s no Marian Hossa.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
the "damaged goods" idea will certainly be a trade talk line item
I’m sure other GMs will bring that up to Stan when it comes to Ladd’s (diminished?) value. Of course, why would they want him if he’s THAT damaged?
The fact that the Hawks put him back out there at all tells me just how important he was to the franchise. Apparently, an injured Ladd is better than a healthy Rockford replacement.
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Keep in mind that the Rockford replacement would have been playing in his third career playoff game (assuming it’s Bickell) in the SCF. They might have just though, meh, not worth the risk.
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Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
"They might have just thought, meh, not worth the risk."
Which has been my point all along. However, I will admit that with a season of experience up in the big show, that Rockford call-up may be decent for the playoffs. But again, that’s not a replacement for Ladd which hawks61 keeps saying would be so easy to do.
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people don't seem to be shying away from damaged goods too much lately
especially in the off-season. see: Ryan Parent. Also, I’m sure there are plenty of teams that would love to have Bolland, even though I don’t think he ever really got back to 100%.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
As long as that replacement
whips Kesler’s ass at least once a season, I’m sure everyone will quickly get over Ladd if he does go – and I too think he will be one of the first Hawks to go.
And yes, I will never refer to you as Hawks(whatever that # was) again. My memory bank has been wiped clean!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd hate to see Ladd go to the Canucks (who supposedly want him)
Try to get him out of the conference if he’s going.
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exactly my thoughts
our conference is already too damn strong
Stanford, who is directed at?
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Arrgh! "Who is THIS COMMENT directed at?"
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I'm pretty sure it was directed at hawks10
Stanfordron, taking shots at someone who is very hockey intelligent doesn’t make you sound very smart. That’s just hawks’ style.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
so slow
I just figured out why you changed his name to hawks10. af;kdsjfasdfjaldfj It was a long day, okay?
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I did not attack his hockey knowledge
I attacked his argument style – which is not very good
Feel free to jab when I’m wrong. But I won’t be, not on this issue.
Byfuglien isn’t going anywhere because who is going to give up a 1st round draft pick and a prospect for a player on his last year of his contract? Now granted that after this season he’ll still remain a RFA but it’s still a ton of promise to give up in order to obtain a power forward that hasn’t matured enough to put it together on a consistant basis. It’s great that he can “bring it” in the playoffs but might want more than that if you’re a team trying to acquire him.
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On this part I agree with you.
I think the price for Buff, if Stan holds to it, will be too high.
I’m really wondering if Buff might have “grown up” during this playoff run, though. He saw what happens when he turns it on for a game. And Tazer was whispering in his ear a lot on the bench—presumably pushing him to keep pushing. Wouldn’t it be nice to see Playoff Buff become I’ll-Play-Like-This-In-The-Regular-Season-Too Buff?
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We wondered that last year.
It didn’t happen.
I’m not expecting a dramatic change after this year either. We’ll get the same old Buff: often frustrating, sometimes brilliant.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jun 22, 2010 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m not expecting anything either, but Buff also has his name on a Cup, which is his first championship ever, so maybe his attitude will have changed. Like, oh, working hard gets silverware, eating McNuggets gets nothing.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
maybe,
but he basically did nothing in the regular season and got silverware for playing hard in 16 games. So does he really need to change much? In his mind, at least.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Who can tell the way’s of Buff’s heart?
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Only the cholesterol in the McNuggets.
I hope he ends up motivated, I’m just not expecting it.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
like i said: “I’m not expecting anything either”
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
yeah, I was agreeing
without actually saying I was agreeing.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
i see how it is
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
can't have too many people agree with you
too often. It’ll go to your head.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course, by this reasoning, the Nucks should get rid of Luongo.
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After the last two playoffs
I’m sure that there are a lot of people in Vancouver feel that way.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
"...who is going to give up...?"
How about a desperate Vancouver team that has decided to explode themselves, or a Sharks team recently reacquainted with post-season futility?
Not saying it will happen, but both teams might be looking for that missing piece that has eluded them the last two, three seasons.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
As chi said above
this is likely a starting point for negotiations. I’m sure Bowman knows his real top end value is less, but wants to end any trade negotiation at that point, not start there.
Still a maybe as to whether he’ll be gone, but more likely than you think.
The only guess I’m making about the Hawks off seaon moves is I think there will be one that involves players that absolutely no one saw coming. A “shocker” if you will.
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
but
did you see that redirect? damn.
plus, he’s the only guy on the team who can fight.
What can I say, I love ’em all.
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Buff won't get traded?
I think Bowman’s asking price is a little steep, but he’ll probably lower that just to get rid of Buff. No one’s saying Ladd’s the MVP either.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I personally don't think Stan's that far out of the ballpark
Buff’s playoff performance showed what he is capable of and what he can do for a team trying to make a run.
If Buff was an RFA, we be getting at least a 1st rounder or 1st and 3rd rounder for him anyways right? (can’t remember the levels of the top of my head) So this is somewhat comparable.
If it wasn’t for the Hawks’ cap situation I think someone might meet Stan’s price. The situation does change everything if teams want to play hardball, but if multiple teams are seriously interested, then we might be in luck.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
It might be my bias
but GMs are also holding onto their draft picks— a 1st rounder, to me, is a high asking price. But then again I don’t know what other GMs may see when they look at Buff.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Florida now has
2 1st round picks. Maybe Dale would like to send us one
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
hey, he signed Buff once...
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
That's exactly what I'm thinking
also I hope all of the transactions that the Hawks make will be with the Eastern Conference.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
in the Cupcake Division...
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Which one? The Southeast or the Northeast?
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southeast
minus the Caps, I guess
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he'll try hard to get Sharp.
And maybe Versteeg.
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tell me who ISN'T interested in Sharp
seems everyone is.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Which tells you how valuable he is...
to us! We should keep him if the money works.
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Exactly. Sharp is as valuable as Hossa. He will remain part of the core for many years to come.
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the money works so so so much
he’s $3.9m for the next two years!
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
One of the best bargains in the entire NHL.
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I thought he was signed on for just one more year
but for TWO, good Lord. We can’t let him go. His contract is exactly the kind we need to wade through this next season.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I think ultimately it comes down to how high of a 1st rounder we’re talking. Top 5, no way we’ll get that. But if it’s bottom 10, then we could be getting an Eager and a prospect for Buff and we’d be the one’s getting shafted.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
But the draft is a crap shoot, really
we have to trust that our scouting team knows what it’s doing.
Hopefully they know more now than they did back in 2005.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Great article
I like what Gardner wrote about Davis and Hobson. I got the chance to watch them a couple times in Rockford and liked what I saw from both of them. And like he mentioned, I even got to see Hobson in an awesome fight which I have plenty of photos of.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd like to see a "scorecard" like this on other teams
Or maybe even just a report on how many first round picks from 2005 to 2007 drafts are in the NHL. 50% or more?
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try this link
http://hockeysfuture.craveonline.com/search.php?q=draft+evaluation&imagefield.x=0&imagefield.y=0
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow.
Just looking at a few of the best teams right now, there are a LOT of “NHL Busts” in everyone’s draft. In fact, without doing a real detailed analysis, I’d say the average is 1 to 2 players make it in the NHL. And that’s from a draft 5 years ago. I guess Tallon doesn’t look so bad compared to the rest. (Of course, he doesn’t stand out either, though that was his first year as GM.)
Thanks for the link.
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here we go
Lightning — 0-for-9
Capitals — 1-for-7 if you count Tim Kennedy
Flames — 0-for-8 unless you count Brett Sutter?
Canucks — 1-for-6 (Mason Raymond)
Devils — 1-for-7 (Bergfors)
Flyers — 2-for-6 (Downie and Bartulis)
Sharks — 2-for-8 (Setoguchi and Vlasic)
Rangers — 1-for-8 (Marc Staal)
Hurricanes — 1-for-9 (Jack Johnson, oops)
Blues — 1-for-7 (TJ Oshie)
Isles — 0-for-7
Penguins — 2-for-7 (Crosby, Letang)
Oilers — 1-for-8 (Cogliano)
Kings — 2-for-8 (Kopitar, Quick)
Blue Jackets — 3-for-7 (Brule, Boll, Russell… 4-for-7 depending on what you think of McQuaid)
Leafs — 1-for-6 (Tuukka Rask. Um. About that…)
Sabres — 1-for-9 (Chris Butler)
Avalanche — 2-for-9 (Stastny, Cumiskey)
Stars — 4-for-7? (Niskanen, James Neal, Richard Clune?, Tom Wandell)
Wild — 1-for-7 (Pouliot)
Ducks — 1-for-6 (Bobby Ryan)
Preds — 3-for-7 (Ryan Parent, Cody Franson, Patrice Hornqvist)
Canadiens — 4-for-7? (Price, Latendresse, Matt D’Agostini?, Sergei Kostitsyn)
Coyotes — 2-for-5 (Hanzal, Yandle)
Thrashers — 1-for-8 (Ondrej Pavelec)
That’s who they have so far.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow again. That's definitely the definition of "crapshoot."
So why all these articles on how bad Tallon’s picks were? 15 of these teams have 1 or less playing in the NHL.
Thanks for the work on this.
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maybe the 2005 class is young...
or maybe it was just a crappy pool to begin with. I’m not sure. 2003 was a deep draft. 2010 apparently is as well. Who really knows though?
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
2006 wasn’t bad either.
2007 was one of the worst in terms of the first round although 1999 will forever remain in infamy.
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Here is the 1999 Entry Draft. Enjoy reading these names.
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Good Lord
Take out Thing 1 & Thing 2, and Marty and that is one awful first round.
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on the bright side
i believe this list settles exactly WHICH ONE is Thing 1 vs. Thing 2!
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
we had it wrong all along
Thing 2 and Thing 3
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Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
will you get out of my head?
I was going to say the same damn thing.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I would personally bet less than 25%
unless you include AHL part-time call ups.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
atually, the Oilers probably had the worst draft in 1990
they went 0-for-11 then.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Today's rumors:
Sharks say they’ll let Nabokov leave as a free agent via AP/Minn newspaper.
7 Blackhawks named as “untouchables” (photoshop, anyone?) via HockeyIndependent.
Other rumors are already mentioned above so I won’t mention them again. Also, I don’t know if any of these are trustworthy because, honestly, this is my first year actually following trade rumors, so I’ll leave it up for other people to verify/comment on validity and such.
how many GMs see this list.........
and are immediately pissed that Sharp is on it? A lot, I bet.
Ditto for CNS
I find it interesting
that the author put Buff on the “close behind the untouchables”. Hammer, Niemi, Campbell I get, but Buff? I wonder if that means that Bowman could actually pull off getting a 1R pick & prospect for him…
he better say 'close behind untouchable'
if he wants to set his price that high.
Kind of surprised to see Bolly on that list, but Sharpy and Seabs are, so I’m a happy lady.
I'm not surprised to see Bolly on there
considering how much the organIzation seems to believe in him. I am worried about Jelly though. I think he’s the only other person outside of the supposed “untouchables” that I want to keep.
Hammer's my #1 DON'T TOUCH
now that I’ve seen the untouchable list.
Maybe if he stoops a little he can hide behind me and the GMs will forget he’s there.
I'm hoping that they work out a deal
instead of leaving him out to be offer-sheeted. Because the likelihood someone will take Soupy is low and I rather have 2 awesome D pairs than 1.5
I would think keeping your top 4 D together would be a top priority.
Campbell’s salary IS a killer, but the Hawks play much poorer when he’s not in the lineup.
Hammer’s been developed for 2 years with this franchise and knows the system well. He should be kept because you’d be starting all over with another rookie defenseman otherwise.
Lots of scorers without great defense is the Capitals, and we know what happened to them in the playoffs.
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Not quite my #1
But #1 RFA who needs to be signed, even more than Antti. TOFTBO has shown too much these past 1 1/2 seasons to not want and try to keep him!
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
who is your #1 Don't Touch?
he jumped to the top of my list after Bowman’s untouchable list came out.
Before that it was Seabrook.
The core for me
Toews-Sharp-Kane-Hossa-Keith-Bolland (Campbell by salary default)
Those are the do not even make me an offer the answer is NO guys (less soupy).
After that TOFTO, and keeping Biscuit, Brouwer, and Niemi are tops.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd give up Bolland
before Seabrook. I think part of Keith’s success is due to how good Seabrook is with him.
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I'm with you 100%
Both need to be brought back, but we are going to loose some really good guys. If we are going to loose them, hopefully we can control who for the most part, AND beable to get a good return for the Short Mid and long term.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Same here
Bolland’s not on my list of untouchables. I still have concerns that he’ll ever be 100% again and wouldn’t want the Hawks to be straddled with another Daze type.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I doubt he will ever be back to 100%, but I’d also say we won’t know until the start of next season. That surgery has a fast recovery, but a long tail, if you know what I mean.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
If you don’t, I mean that you go into the surgery at <50%, and come out of it at ~70%, then in two months, you’re up around 90%, but that last ten can take almost a year.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
No, I got it
I’ve had back problems from wrestling/football in HS and they never permanently “go away.”
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
The Hawks
minor system seems to be fairly deep at D. I think they keep Hammer for the 2010-11 season (with a modest raise) and then reassess where their youngsters are in the development stages.
I think there is some depth
(Lalonde, possibly Leddy, others I’m not aware of), but they aren’t that close to being NHL ready yet.
by Katherine215 on Jun 23, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I think there is some depth
IMO, there isn’t a replacement for Hammer in the minors. There are a couple of kids that could eventually replace Campbell but they are a couple of years away.
I agree
that’s why I said they aren’t close to being NHL ready.
by Katherine215 on Jun 23, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
being NHL ready.
Forgot about Dylan. He eventually might replace a Hammer on D but he isn’t any closer to being ready then the offensive minded kids.
how is there no replacement for Hammer in the minors? Olsen’s D game is very strong and physical. Could be a very good replacement for him. Obviously, I’d hate to see Hammer go, but the salary cap requires teams to change. Teams like Detroit have done it for years now with plenty of success.
Leddy could become more of a Campbell type player.
i think they're referring to hammer as shutdown
whereas most of our prospects seem to be the offensive d-man mold.
but we were also talking about Hammer’s game in Rockford and he played on the PP then too, didn’t he? So. You’re probably right. But I probably don’t know what I’m talking about.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 23, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
right
then again Olsen, which is arguably our top D prospect is defensive minded.
anyhow, Olsen and Leddy are a few years away (Lalonde should be with the Hawks in 2010-11) and nothings a guarantee. So, keeping Hammer around for another year won’t break the bank and will give the organization a better gauge on where players like Olsen and Leddy stand.
Is Olsen ready now?
He’s only 19, do you know where he was playing? The Hawks site doesn’t say anything about where he played last year.
by Katherine215 on Jun 23, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
WCHA
for University of Minnesota Duluth. (Wikipedia is the 2nd port of call after the ‘Hawks’ website)
ugh, stupid Katherine
I actually knew he was there, and completely forgot about Wiki. I blame the rain.
by Katherine215 on Jun 23, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Blame it on the Rain?
Isn’t that Milli Vanilli?
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I have no idea
I just never do well when it rains.
by Katherine215 on Jun 23, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
The thing about Jelly
no one could have predicted 18 months ago how good he would be. Top 4 on ANY team already, with upside potential still.
Don’t count on that lightning striking twice.
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by cliffkoroll on Jun 23, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
all things being unpredictable, we don’t know how Hammer’s career will unfold.
I think the reason he’s grown so quickly has a lot to do with the guys that he’s surrounded by.
By no means am I saying we shouldn’t keep him. I just think we need to be realistic about our cap situation. Hammer should be affordable going into the upcoming season. After that, we’ll need to find someone to replace him. Hopefully the gap will be filled by our youngsters, who’ll command smaller salaries.
If he lives up to the Lidstrom comparisons, though
Ranking him above Biscuit may have to be considered. At present I think Seabrook’s skill set is a more rare commodity, but perhaps all this will depend on how things develop and what’s available on the market.
At D we have
Shawn Lalonde (68th overall), Nick Leddy (16th) & Dylan Olsen (28th). Doesn’t seem too bad.
At C we have Byron Froese (119th), Brandon Pirri (59), Mathis Olimb (undrafted, random Norwegian) & Marcus Kruger (149th overall). That seems a little bit weaker.
But that’s just me going onto the ‘Hawks’ website & looking for names I semi-recognise on the depth charts. The real picture could be a bit different.
of the centers
Pirri and Kruger are considered our top prospects. However, both players are small (under 6 ft. and 170 lbs). I’m not too sure how small we’re willing to get.
Seabs would be the #1 untouchable after the "Core"
He and Keith are the top shutdown pair in the league.
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they bring out the best in each other
We’d probably be fine with Keith/Doughty, but Keith/Seabrook is pretty well established, and I don’t think the Kings are giving up Doughty any time soon
I think the reason is price-based
Somebody may feel like overpaying for him.
But I would hate, HATE to see him go. #1 on my list as well.
Campbell, under no circumstances should be an untouchable
Even if you absolutely love Campbell’s game, he’s one of your favorite players, and you think he is really important to what the hawks do (some of this would apply to how I feel about him), you have to recognize that 7.1 tag. That price tag makes him very available from the hawks standpoint (maybe not so much from another team’s perspective). A move of Campbell (while I’m not advocating it) + whatever you do with Huet, could singlehandedly resolve your cap issues. This can’t be said about any other non core player coupled with Huet.
Ditto for CNS
I didn't say he should be
I’m just saying I’m not surprised to see people put him there. I was surprised to see Buff placed on that list because most Hawk fans I know want him traded – and it made me wonder exactly what Buff’s rep is for non-Hawk fans.
from what I understand
all of Canada is ga-ga over the guy.
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Really?
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Yes
After what he’s done to them. Better to keep your friends close and your enemies closer is the vibe I get from NM.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions
You’ve understood wrong.
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again with the definitive tone
if you hadn’t been banging so hard for Giguerre or half a dozen other goalies last year, I’d be tempted to give more credence t your views.
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I DO NOT want to see soupy go,.........but
If we can get a somewhat comparable D-Man for $3-4M less (even if tied with a lesser player), I say pull the trigger on that. Cap Space is too precious.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
"somewhat comparable D-Man"
And therein lies the problem. The Hawks’ style of play dictates that you HAVE to have a puck moving defenseman back there. Again, note the Hawks’ inability to play “their” brand of hockey when Campbell was out (as noted at the time by the Trio of Alkies on this blog).
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Yeah
You can probaly count on one or two hands the amount of D-men that can move the puck, and play D like Soupy, cut it even more for skill level, cut that even more on a good price.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Andrej Meszaros says Hi.
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Yes, yes I am but that is the vicious rumour-du-jour.
The Lightning have appeared intersted in Campbell but only if we take the Meszarjos contract off their hands.
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And what IS the penalty for going over the cap?
Let’s just pay it and keep this team together!
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length-wise or height-wise?
I’m not too good on this cap stuff
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 23, 2010 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd make that trade
Meszarjos’ cap hit is 4 million for 4 years (18.25 million in actual salary) He doesn’t have a No Trade or No Move clause. So he can be traded, sent to the minors or even bought out. He’s only 24 and who knows a change of scenery may do him good.
As much as I like Campbell, the chance to dump his 6 year 42 plus million dollar contract has to be considered.
If this trade could be made, the Hawks pick up 3 million in Cap Space which can be applied to the RFAs.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Besides, Campbell sucks because he makes more money than a sucky player is worth.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
He makes more money
than what a good (not great) player is worth.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
everyone's asking for him
Patrick Sharp is a very handsome man.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
great link
thanks for sharing.
The list:
Fabulous Weapon
TMIMITW
20 Cent
Teeth
Biscuit
Handsome Man
Funny Face
I’m glad Bollie’s on there.
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I'm not nearlly as patient or smart.
So I see TMIMITW is Panda, bu what does TMIMITW stand for
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
it still took me a bit to figure that one out.
if I have to stop and parse out the acronym-nickname, that’s NG. :P
they'll look good on TV
not that the hillbilly/pirate look isn’t a unique one, but he looks mighty fine in that picture.
now I need to hear him talk
so I can really get the canadian hillbilly picture/sounds out of my head
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
hopefully he'll be giving a speech tomorrow night
man, Seabs would be so mad at my if he knew what I was thinking right now.
He was just looking so wrecked and he’s rebounded very well.
Any predictions on the Norris trophy winner?
I’m thinking Doughty just because there was so much hype for him when the finalists were announced. (And he certainly is a great D Man.) Don’t they vote on these things before the end of the season?
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Does anyone know if Keith has a Norris bonus in his contract??
If so, I’ll cheer for Doughty although I think Keith has the upper hand this year because many feel Doughty will have quite a few chances to win in the future.
Who knows what the future may hold, but I personally feel this is Dunc’s best chance to ever win it. His scoring was disproportionately high this year and scoring is often a huge part of the voting (probably more since Bobby Orr won it something like 8 times in a row). Keith was a .83 pts per game player this year. I think that’s a lot to expect from a shutdown d-line player – and part of the reason he deserves it.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 22, 2010 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
From what I have read and Understand about Bonuses in the CBA (though I can be wrong)
Keith does not qualify for a team bonus, he would get one from the NHL for the award. Team bonuses Type A and B are really for entry level contracts, and those recovering from serious injuries. I do not Keith fits the bill for either of those.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
He’ll have plenty of more chances to win it. The battle between Doughty and Keith will be interesting to watch over the upcoming years.
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From the CBA
Sect 50.2 (C-2)
Performance Bonuses shall be allowable under this
Agreement only for:
(i) Players with Entry Level SPCs under
Article 9 of this Agreement;
(ii) Players aged 35 or older as of June
30 prior to the League Year in which the SPC is to
be effective, who have signed a one-year SPC for
that League Year; and
(iii) Players who are “400-plus game
Players” for pension purposes, and who: (i) in the
last year of their most recent SPC, spent 100 days or
more on the injured reserve list; and (ii) have signed
a one-year SPC for the current or upcoming League
Year.
Here is what defines entry level SPC time frames. Sect 9.1b
First SPC Signing Age Period Covered by First SPC
18-21 3 years
22-23 2 years
24 1 year
25 and older No required number of years, not in the Entry Level
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks
So I assume Toews and Kane fell into category (i)?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 23, 2010 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions
and how about
Keith, if he wins the Norris and has a bonus built in for that award?
and thus it all comes full circle ;)
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 23, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Performance bonuses are ONLY allowed under the noted above
Since Keith is no longer an entry level player, Toews and Kane were. Keith also does not meet the other two reqs, so Keith can not get a performance bonus from the Hawks for the Norris. The league can pay him a bonus, which does not count against the Cap.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 23, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I do not know what I like better
DK with or without his chicklets!
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Do not know if it has been mentioned
But the CBA has been extended through the 2011-12 season, ad the Cap is expected at about $59M
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 6:53 PM CDT reply actions
Ciccarelli voted into the Hockey Hall of Fame?
When did they add a Pud Wing to the HOF?
GET OFF MY LAWN!
Somewhere Doug Wilson and Steve Larmer are both saying “Really? That fucking shitstain is in but not us?”.
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by hawks61 on Jun 22, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's Riniculous...
Dino Sucks, Dino Sucks, Dino Sucks… Seriously, he was a guy who played good hockey but he’s not a HOFer, he was an agitator!!! He was also a dirty SOB at times too, went to many a Hawks/Stars game back in the day and I hated that guy as much as Kerry Fraser.
I hated this SOB more than any other player in the league
He was a dirty little shit that hid behind his goons and never stood up for himself.
He’s in the Hall for one reason, and one reason only, 608 career goals scored. Unfortunately you can’t deny that number, no matter the player or the era they played in.
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
Also, Sopel apparently will bring the Cup to the Gay Pride parade.
Classy move by a classy guy in a classy organ-i-zation.
GET OFF MY LAWN!
Look above.
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that's not only missing 1 comment that says the same thing
that’s missing half of the comments on this thread
Ditto for CNS
I know
Why read 685 comments when you can just scroll all the way down and start the conversation over again?
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
Hey, Kane scored the Cup winning goal!
Sorry.
(Though that never gets old.) :)
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Bet you did not know
Only like 4 players, 2 on each team, knew right away that it was a goal! Everyone else in the Stadium and on TV was like WTF just happened!
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
VerStig's sarcasm-o-meter
Is dialed up way past 11 today
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
Whatever do you mean?
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 22, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
And Luongo
just let in another rebound.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
He has a full time goalie coach now
I’m sure it will make all the difference in his game.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
And that doesn't get old either...
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shit, now the pressure's on
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 23, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
You guys playing cards??
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 23, 2010 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Did you hear?
Hawks drafted Patrick Kane in the 1st round! Sure he’s a lazy kid, but I predict big things from him one day.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal.
I don't know...
he’s kind of small, doesn’t backcheck very much, and is pretty lazy. Maybe a 2nd liner at best.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Good call
He was a second liner in the SCFs this year.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Do we even have a 2nd line?
I always think of it as 2 first lines and then a 3rd and a 4th.
by Katherine215 on Jun 23, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions
I always think of it as 2 first lines
Funny, I always think of it as 2 second lines. The Hawks first line didn’t match up with either the Sharks or Canucks first lines. The Hawks just had better depth.
Without that depth I really do think the Hawks are going to need to find a center to play with Kane. You really do want, imo, Toews and Hossa playing together so the Hawks can match ones against ones defensively. I don’t think Sharp will be traded for salary cap relief. I do, however, think he could get traded for a better pure center to play with Kane.
So really it's two 1.5 lines
Not quite the level of some of the top first lines in the league but better than most second lines.
Not sure I agree with getting a pure center for Kane though. If he’s the playmaker on his line, what’s the center supposed to do? If we get another top-6 center, my guess is he’d be centering Hossa.
Not sure I agree with getting a pure center for Kane though
If we could re-incarnate Tony O’s brother then he could match up with Kane. In modern centers someone more in the mold of a Kopitar. Basically a center that plays power forward and goes to the net. I don’t like Toews in that role. I like Hossa and Toews playing a two way game. Those two and a Beach style player would be pretty sick when ones play ones.
agreed
Toews-Hossa. Just fuckin’ wow.
Kane-Sharp. Some mixing of gender-roles here, but it works.
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by cliffkoroll on Jun 23, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
hes young now
FOR SALE: pair of shoes, red, size 32 1/2 wide. Please direct all bids to Joel Quenneville, Chicago Blackhawks. Clown horn sold seperately. Also for sale: 328 dogs+1 pistol (bargain price for Leafs fans!)
by BigCSouthside on Jun 22, 2010 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
my baby brother is older than him
and he hasn’t won a Conn Smythe, a Stanley Cup, or Olympic Gold yet, the good for nothing bum.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 22, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m older than Toews and there won’t be as many people recognize my life-time accomplishments as he already has.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
face it, we all fail at life
how many of us are actually younger than Kane or Toews? or are older/same age but have accomplished as much or more?
by puppetmasterp on Jun 22, 2010 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
By definition, if you’re known entity on this site, you haven’t accomplished half of what they have.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
sometimes I look at Tazer
and have to ask myself what I’ve done with my life. no lies.
it's entirely possible this isn't sarcasm
sometimes
I look at Kopecky and wonder what the hell I’ve done with my life.
by Katherine215 on Jun 22, 2010 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
sometimes I look at Kopecky and think
hey there is someone else out there that falls down more than me
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
hey, what do you want for lunch tomorrow?
signed,
meestalker
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
i have better things to do than make pasta salad for the fellow unemployed
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Start a countdown
to his 7,500th comment? Try to confuse everyone on SCH at least once? (he’s probably already done that, though)
You're unemployed again?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 23, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Tallon not only gets ring, but also gets name on Cup
He deserves it, too. Link.
by Germware on Jun 23, 2010 5:46 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Nice
Good results or bad, (mostly good) the team that was on the ice this season was pretty much built during his tenure as GM.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
I watched the interview with McD yesterday where he announced this
A lot of people say that the Bowmans and McDonough were the reason for Dale’s demise, but listening to all the great things McD had to say about Tallon, you’d be hard pressed to believe he wasn’t his greatest supporter.
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 23, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
World Cup
I’m home due to rain and am going to watch some of the USA vs Algeria.
Looked up Algeria just for kicks on Wiki and they had this quote.
“In 2010, the country of Algeria gave way to complete anarchy and eventually dissolved after being crushed by the United States of America in the 2010 FIFA World Cup.”
I realize people can just post to Wiki but this was pretty funny, how long it will stay on there is anyone’s guess.
I just hope I don’t keep losing my satellite, raining pretty hard out here west of the burbs.
Dammit
Why did Capello finally have to realise that Defoe is a pretty fuckin’ good player? I really don’t want England to continue & have to keep listening to the media act like they have a chance to win this Cup.
yes
but he has to pay Hossa the royalties.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jun 23, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
awesome, rec'd
FOR SALE: pair of shoes, red, size 32 1/2 wide. Please direct all bids to Joel Quenneville, Chicago Blackhawks. Clown horn sold seperately. Also for sale: 328 dogs+1 pistol (bargain price for Leafs fans!)
by BigCSouthside on Jun 23, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
30 comments from 1,000
on an off-season thread. Fellow losers- this is no time to slacken.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
The thread keeps breaking for me now
It’ll load about half of it and just stop. Last time I just left it, then a deluge of subject-only duplicates of existing comments appeared (that I could “z” through). Very weird.
hawks61
needs a new hanlde. I think CNS came up with "hawks10’, which I second.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
don't they have the interwebz there?
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
by cliffkoroll on Jun 23, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
The Coyotes found him
and brainwashed him into wanting to throw the snake instead of believing in the one goal.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
Contrary to popular belief
soupy and i weren’t very close. I just crashed on his couch one morning.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
i suspect his new job might be requiring an awful lot of his time and attention.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 23, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
but
my beliefs are generally wildly unpopular around here
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
by cliffkoroll on Jun 23, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
My lord
I haven’t heard that one since my childhood
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 25, 2010 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions
WOW USA
Should have had 2 goals but instead score in last minutes to advance. Could have had 4 goals easy in this one.
I don’t anyone should bitch too much about NHL officiating, FIFA refs are horrid in comparison.
THAT WAS AMAZING
such a great game!!! I felt tears welling up after the winning goal. They just played so well, had so many chances….and no other team has had 2 good goals discounted in the world cup prelim rounds. Yet they kept fighting, on the game, and won their group. So glad i got to see that live.
I feel bad for Slovenia b/c they also played their games incredibly well, and as much as i like England, i can’t help feeling that they don’t deserve to move on to the next round based on how they’ve played so far. IMO, the US and Slovenia were the best two teams in the group.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 23, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
That’s probably true about England, but that’s the hallmark of the top teams: third group game, everything on the line, win or go home, England will win.
Let me just note, too, the US was in the same position and won.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
true, but the US looked better in every game. hands down.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 23, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
That’s what I was trying to get across in my last sentence.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
I knew I’d failed even before I hit post, but when you’re going for 8000, there’s not time to dilly dally.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
you're skipping the small goals
and going straight for the big ones, I see.
by Katherine215 on Jun 23, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
i
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
just got back to work from Mahoneys on ogden..
What a FUCKING WIN.
Howard, Donovan, Altidore, Dempsey, Donovan…GOAL
amazing effort from those guys. Altidore was a monster. Can you imagine what that kid will play like in 4 more years?? Hes 20 years old playing like a monster in the World Cup.
Donovan and Dempsey are world class in case you did not know. Fun to watch a team that KNOWS they are better but struggle, at times, to really show it. Sounds a lot like another team I know of.
FIFA is pathetic. good day. time to sober up and return to work.
We just won the group over England. this rules.
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
by west_fulton on Jun 23, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
The announcers were saying
“These guys don’t know how to make it easy.” Reminded me of the “another team” you know of, too.
The Canadiens?
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
you guys make me spit coffee
actually i was talking about the Wolves.
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
by west_fulton on Jun 23, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
oh I was thinking of the Hawks
and their similar struggles in the first round (with all due respect to the Preds and their stud D)
yeah i was talking about the 09-10 Chicago Blackhawks in reality
i mean the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Chicago Blackhawks
For a while there I thought Rinne was goalkeeper for Algeria.
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
by west_fulton on Jun 23, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Why did you win over England?
If you had the same goal difference and drew against them, what’s the next selection criterion?
Goal Scored is the next Tie breaker
US scored 4 and England scored 2
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Goal Scored is the next Tie breaker
US scored 4 and England scored 2
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
So true, it had to be said twice.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Actually it's because
the US scored twice as many goals as England
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
FIFA calls upon the opinion of no-name referees from Mali on such occasions.
wait, no. you both are right.
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
by west_fulton on Jun 23, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Altidore WAS a monster
easily the best game i’ve seen him play, and yes, he will only get better. awesome.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 23, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Anybody else watching the new Droid launch?
Motorola, Verizon, and Adobe are doing some sort of joint presentation/announcement.
oh that's today?
let me know if they say anything interesting. I’m a Droid user but while I love my Droid, I’m not a fanatic. I have enough things to obsess over as it is.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jun 23, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
Apparently it’s only for the Droid X. I was hoping they’d announce the Droid 2 today too (which is like a Droid with a faster processor and slightly better keyboard) because that’s the one I was thinking about getting, especially before my trip in two weeks.
How do you think the Droid (2) would be for somebody who figures to type A LOT on it?
depends on how easily you take to typing on teeny little keypads
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jun 23, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, not well, generally
But I’d rather not become that old guy who can’t use technology… so, I’ll adapt — just want to find the best way to adapt.
The Droid X having Swype is interesting, but I still don’t like the idea of an on-screen keyboard taking up so much space while you’re typing.
I've got a Droid Incredible on order...
I hear that they are pretty pretty…..pretty good
Ditto for CNS
Quick question
Snoop Dogg can be seen on the NHL site wearing the numbers 8, 9, 33, 66, 87 & 99.
Who all the numbers are in honour of is fairly obvious, apart from 33 (to me, at least). Anyone gimme a hand?
Dammit
I knew it would be really obvious when I heard it. Forgive me for my ignorance, I’ve only been a hockey fan since during the Lockout.
My question is who the #9 is
There’s 10 teams that have retired that number (#11 will soon be Mike Modano)
The 3 best players that wore #9 were Gordie Howe, Bobby Hull and Maurice Richard. I assume it’s Gordie Howe.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

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