Fraser To Edmonton For A Sixth Round Pick? Wild Rumors On An Early Thursday Morning
by Killion on Jun 24, 2010 1:25 AM CDT
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I haven't seen much at this point... just a bunch of people on Twitter talking but the rumor is that Frazz is off to the city no one loves anymore and the Hawks are getting a sixth rounder in return. I may fall asleep before we get any official confirmation on this
Also, since I haven't been able to post anything about this all day... let me just say: USA! USA! USA!
UPDATE: There's a lot of noise on the Oilers side of this saying this deal is official but nothing so far from the Hawks side. Either way.. I'm going to bed now.
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USA?
What happened? Did they score a 92nd minute group-winning goal to avoid bowing out of the World Cup or something?
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
no, Kills is just beaming with national pride
as the 4th is coming up
I dont like this trade if true
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 24, 2010 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Depending on how hot the English girl is
I believe “suck it England” counts as a pick up line
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 24, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
I'm just gonna go right ahead and use this...
moving to england in august…
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
Waddington.
Near Lincoln. I’ve never been to England before, and know little of what to expect. Probably going to continue drinking Boddington’s religiously.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
I don't either
Isn’t Frazz worth more than a 6th rounder? I feel like he can play higher than 4th line center on another team though, and certainly in Edmonton I hope he could get that at least.
I am starting to think I am the only who does not care for soccer
Though I’m always happy when the US beats someone down, regardless of the sport.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 24, 2010 5:49 AM CDT up reply actions
USA
even good at shit we don’t give a damn about.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Jun 24, 2010 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
zing rec!
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by cliffkoroll on Jun 24, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
nooooo not the Fro!!!
I really thought Frazz had earned a more solid spot on this team, but if this is true (Rogers has “according to a league source”) he will definitely be missed.
Somehow I don’t understand how the revolving-doghouse-door works on this team but if it helps us keep everyone else, thank you Colin, for taking it for the team one last time — and not just with your face!
what could Frasier expect to have made next year? I mean, he only made $700k last year, so I’m not sure he’s much help in clearing cap space.
Can’t say I understand this move. Maybe for a 3rd round pick, but a 6th rounder?
I speculated below
Maybe so we have tagging room to even tender offers to the other RFAs. Otherwise, I’m with ya — I don’t know how it’s helping to do this now.
Like VerStig says, I think this speaks to roster and cap complexities that my small mind can’t sort through. You wouldn’t make this kind of move unless it made things easier elsewhere to solidify some other key component. As to a third-rounder for Frazz? Love the guy, but I don’t think he would bring back that kind of pick. Maybe Frazz and a 6th might get us that high, cause keep in mind that 3rd rounder, from Edmonton anyway, is basically a late 2nd-rounder.
www.mjt.org
Think he is worth more than a 6th round pick. I understand needing that extra $900+ when you want Niemi and Hjammer. Also, I believe the Hawks need to re-sign Skille and Bickell so that money should come in handy.
let's not forget that the erlers are getting Tyler Hall
Everyone starts somewhere, the Blackhawks weren’t Stanley Cup winners 3 years ago.
Who am I kidding? It’s no comparable.
Playing time
Fraser should get a chance to play a little more at least.
How about this rumor!!???
http://twitter.com/NHLSourcesSay
And maybe Ladd…if you can’t beat em’…well…you know…hire em!
wonder who
the prospect might be. I’m assuming it’s not going to be one of their top 5, since the Hawks are already getting a first rounder. But If it includes goaltending prospect Cory Schneider, I think this would be the steal of the young decade.
Vancouver will be very, very good next year.
Is a first rounder really worth that much?
Seeing as how the draft is a crapshoot, I would feel like this is a pretty bad deal unless it’s an excellent prospect.
That said, as people are saying all over — “NHLSourcesSay is not a legit source”
i definitely
agree that the draft is a crapshoot. But a 1st rounder and a goaltending prospect like Cory Schneider could very much help me forget about Steegs.
Don't like giving the Nucks our guys...
Dammit don’t do any deals with those assholes in Vancouver.
Ladd or Steeg to Vancouver still aint Cheli to Detroit but it sure as hell would sting more than Buff to ATL.
Imagine losing a series to Vancouver with Kris fucking Versteeg netting the winner.
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by HjammerTime on Jun 24, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
I really
don’t get the Vancouver hate. We’ve eliminated them the past two years, we won the cup and I’ll be happy if we get one of the better goalie prospects in the league.
I would agree that I’d rather our top guys go to teams that aren’t Cup contenders, but my #1 concern is shoring up our development system where we are not only weak, but where we really could see a big upside, with a really good player.
Then again, we’re obviously dealing in hypotheticals here. We don’t know that Steegs is going to Vancouver and we don’t know what’s being offered.
I dont get how you dont get the Vancouver hatred. They are the biggest collection of d-bags in the NHL and thats saying something with the St..Louis Blues around.
I just sort of assume now that we will face Vancouver in the playoffs and them having one of our go to guys pisses me off.
I would not be willing to make one of our main rivals a better hockey team when our return is a late 1st Rd pick which is basically nothing when you consider how much of a crapshoot the draft is.
I understand the reality but am angered by it.
Can you image how much we would all hate Versteeg as a Canuck?
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by HjammerTime on Jun 24, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
As much as we would love him Hjammer.
I have to tell you though, the prospect would NOT be Cory Schneider. He is pencilled in as the backup, and they know how good he is.
He will play 20 or so games to increase his value, and maybe go at the deadline next year.
If I was to guess, I would say the 25th and someone like Anton Rodin…or maybe someone else, we have a lot of prospects. Shirokov…you guys need a Russian right?
I get the hatred by the way guys. Its mutual, and fun. Unlike Burish though, I would have a beer with you guys.
And I have to disagree with the D-bag characterization…
;-)
Yeah I don't think you're worse than the Blues in that department
Well, maybe it’s a toss-up, but at least you guys can play hockey :-P
Im sure you would love both Steeg and Ladd. The reason you guys outrank STL on the D-Bag list is its understandable that a group of talentless fucks like the Blues would goon it up now and then. The Nucks actually have talent yet still feel the need to engage in endless bullshit after the whistles…..plus the hair-pulling still lingers and the Kesler dive which I will never forget….
D-Bags. You seem like a good guy though. So welcome to SCH.
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by HjammerTime on Jun 24, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
You could say that about St. Louis, actually
They have a lot of talented young players but they’re being cast into playing an absolutely horrid style, especially when you continue icing the dirtbags that they have.
With Vancouver it’s more that they got off their game just for us. But hey, I’ll take it!
STL
Yeah but the Nucks continue on with this shit in the Playoffs….something the Blues know nothing about..
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by HjammerTime on Jun 24, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
The two teams played in the first round in 2009
That series had just an unbelievable amount of douchebaggery, including an ongoing Bieksa/Crombeen dick measuring contest that unfortunately resulted in no serious injuries.
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by HungryHungryPanda on Jun 24, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
Bieksa…My favorite statue…I forgot all about that series…
So next season I assume the Blues will be back in playoff contention….WC Playoffs?
Hawks-Sharks-Kings-Nucks-Blues-Wings-Avs?-Yotes?
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by HjammerTime on Jun 24, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty much
But I think StL and Anaheim jump in, with Phoenix and Colorado falling out.
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by HungryHungryPanda on Jun 24, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Hawks, Sharks, Nucks, Kings, Wings, Blues, Preds, Ducks.
Preds will make the playoffs as long as they have Rinne, Weber, and Suter, methinks.
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by HungryHungryPanda on Jun 24, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the Preds are playoff bound
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Nashville
I totally blanked on the Preds…
So I guess Id have Hawks-Wings-Blues-Preds-Nucks-Kings-Sharks-Avs
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Please.
Not to start a flame war, but you guys used up all residual lingering “issues” with the flopping and diving of Madden, Bolland,Kopecky, and anyone wearing a Hawks jersey in games 3-4.
Burish was on his back more than a five dollar hooker, and even Toews caught the bug in Game 3…flying through the air from a dive to forearm shiver Bobby Lou after the slightest of touches by a defenseman…Hey…whatever it takes right?
Hey, it worked, and the refs bought it. You can’t argue with the results either…
The little hacks on the hands of Danny Sedin to get him off his game. The constant slashes to the legs, the bullshit after the whistle.
The Canucks were at fault for losing their fonzie, but come on!
The Hawks don’t, and haven’t, played like some wonderfully clean Lady Byng team.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
I have visited SCH in the past…but thanks for the welcome, BTW…
;-)
not too worried about wearing out your welcome?
I’ll give you the slashes and hacks post whistle, but the claims of rampant diving are BS.
Ditto for CNS
Look.
Not to get into it…and if someone telling you the truth bothers you…sorry.
But try and watch the games on your PVR without the fan hat on.
I can remember two off the bat…Madden falling like he got shot when pushed after a whistle by the noted goon Daniel Sedin. Resulted in a GWG.
Kopecky doing the same behind the net when Edler did not even hit him. The aforementioned missile tackle by Tazer that looked like he had been training with Urlacher.
It is part of the game. But to say the Canucks are gooney douchebags when the Hawks actually did the douchey diving better…and helped themselves win the series..
Is just being a fan.
(BTW…I think it was mainly because I was looking forward to a more wide open, talent versus talent series. Every time the Canucks did that, they won or almost did. Every time the Hawks resorted to the goading and whatnot, they won. I felt cheated from watching high talent hockey for the whole series…hopefully the Canucks learnt from it this year. I don’t think I could handle a third in a row! )
I get it, its cool. Defend the flag against the hated rival. It doesn’t bother me.
I don’t really blame the Hawks…I blame the Canucks for falling into the trap of being goaded, and the refs for having the eyesight or Mr Magoo….or being “choosey” in who gets a break.
Like I said the day they won it, congrats tot he Hawks…they were the deeper and better team.
But they didn’t need to play that way.
Hope speaking the truth is not “wearing out your welcome”.
I’ll go now….
I don't think you're delusional, but your perceptions are also somewhat coloured by your own allegiance
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 24, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
hey, you can stay as long as you like
but, when you make a comment to the tune of your team got fucked because all the hawks did was dive, and you aren’t going to get a good response here. That’s not too hard to figure out is it? If I went over to NM and said something like that, I wouldn’t expect any other response than the one I gave you.
I also understand that Hjammertime kind of goaded you into it, but still.
Ditto for CNS
You're wrong
Kopecky falls down when no one’s around him.
And, i think you’re wrong about most of the other shit you dropped, but whatever. I have a nice shiny thing to look at. It makes my annoyance with your comments fade so quickly.
by Katherine215 on Jun 24, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, VerStig beat me to the Kop comment
should’ve read further.
by Katherine215 on Jun 24, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
My perceptions are not colored by homerism
In fact I do more bitching and moaning about the Hawks play than I do about the opponents during any given game. Ask anyone that sits around me during games. I rag on the Hawks mistakes constantly. In fact I’ve had non-season ticket holders sitting around me, that aren’t used to my whining about Hawks gaffes, think I was a fan of the opposing team. All of this by way of establishing that I’m as far from a “homer” fan, watching the game through rose colored glasses, as you can get.
So, I feel very comfortable and am absolutely confident in saying that this assesment of the Hawks play is just plain wrong. They do no more or less of the type of play you describe than every team in the league tries to get away with during the course of any given game. And it most certainly is not of the over the top theatrical nature that you describe.
If the Hawks engaged in the kind of behaviour you claim the majority of posters on this site are objective enough in their assessment of the home team that they would have called them on it long ago. In fact that is what is so refreshing about this site, it is almost entirely free of the kind of idiotic, jingoistic homerism that is rampant on other sprots team blogs.
Sorry for the rant. But felt I had to defend our team and SCH reputation from spurious accusations.
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thank you psycho
I can’t tell you the joy I’m filled with imagining Canuck fans spending the next four months exchanging these delusional rants, replaying the games, finger on the pause button (Stop it right there! See! See!)
Laces out, Dan.
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by cliffkoroll on Jun 24, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Oh that is so rec'd
What a great Ace Venture tie in! Stellar! cliffkoroll through the uprights FTW!!!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 27, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
as childish as it sounds
i feel better.
/takes glass of warm milk and toddles off to bed.
If Kris Versteeg kills us, he'll be wearing a lesser sweater.
Truth???
How about one guy bending Bolland over the bench and punching him while he’s helpless. Then another guy coming in and rabbit punching guys in the back of the head while wearing his visor and getting booted from the game……all after the game was completely decided. Pfffttttt…..douchbags in my book.
he's been around here before
and as i remember, treated the SCHers who went over to NM fairly well, so i’m willing to cut him some slack.
i think this is just a case of the teams being so similar. Neither team falls into St. Louis goon territory. I have no love for Kesler, but we’ve all admitted we’d probably love him if he played for us. Bolland is annoying, but he’s not a douche and he does what he does well…get good players off their game.
But you’re dead wrong about Kopecky vancitydan — as mentioned below, there’s just something wrong with the world in a game where Kop doesn’t fall over and lose his helmet for no reason. that’s not diving.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
there is a middle ground between chior boy and douche bag
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Exactly
If we lose Versteeg, we will rue the day.
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by cliffkoroll on Jun 24, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
ESPN reports it as done
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I think it is fair to say
that Reasoner will be our fourth line center when the season starts, a position that I thought Frazz might have earned when he played pretty well late in the season.
Ditto for CNS
The Trib was speculating that Reasoner would be our 3rd Center
So maybe Burwood is still on for the fourth?
by shinkicker on Jun 24, 2010 8:03 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm really hoping that
Sharp stays at second line center and Bolland gets another year on the third in the checking line role.
If Bolland has a full, somewhat injury-free year, and makes the necessary offensive progress, then in 2011-2012, give him the 2nd line role.
This team has a much better chance of a repeat with sharp at 2nd line center…for the time being. I suppose they could got out and get a second line center, but I doubt they could make room for it.
Ditto for CNS
Yeah
There’s no reason why he can’t score from the 3rd line either. I mean, after reading all that C&B analysis, I’m really starting to believe the “offense is the best defense” mantra, because scoring is largely what Bolland’s line did.
if it ends up that we somehow keep ladd and steeg
I’d really like to see Q start the season with the same boll-ladd-steeg checking line. That is a dynamic 2 way checking line (much like Havlat was with those two), and I think that the checking line role and it’s responsibilities have made steeg a better player and will expedite his growth going forward.
Ditto for CNS
by Hack on Jun 24, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
this
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by cliffkoroll on Jun 24, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
completley agree
16-36-32 is a line no team can match up with when they have to worry about 19 and 10’s lines too. An entire season of this = Bonertime
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by west_fulton on Jun 24, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
No reason to put people in positions
Q will just jumble the lines all next year anyway. As long as we have 5 guys to play center and 9-10 guys who can play at the wing, then Q will find 40,000 permutations of scoring lines
by warrenjm2006 on Jun 24, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
How much was Frazz making?
I am not in favor of this trade as I was of the other. The fourth line is being shipped all over the damn world. But you got to do what you got to do. I was happy to see Eager go but not so happy if this Frazz rumor is true,
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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Jun 24, 2010 8:34 AM CDT reply actions
From capgeek
F Fraser, Colin " RFA – $0.7m
I don’t know that we’re saving terribly much (over on C&B they figure they should be able to keep him for $0.9-1.0m) but maybe after doing the math, Stan figured every little bit counts. And I’d rather lose our fourth liners to teams where they can have a bigger role than to lose our better players to teams that play us often.
If you lose a RFA
because you can’t match an offer don’t you pick up a favorable draft pick? If that is the case they should have seen what another team could have offered and decided to match or let him walk.
But I may have messed up information and am talking out of my ass.
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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Jun 24, 2010 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought the Buff trade would've solved this
but I wonder if we did this to make sure we had enough tagging room to tender offers to the rest of our RFAs. We might not have gotten an offer for Fraser, and maybe Bowman’s estimates for Hjammer and Ladd are higher than we think?
Ladd just became more valuable to this team
after they dealt Buff. Ladd is a good power forward. Hjammer this season showed he is a huge asset. What does our 3rd line D look like as of now? I thought Boynton and Hendry were both free agents. Does this mean LaLonde will get a shot at playing on the 3rd line?
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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Jun 24, 2010 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions
and dealing Buf and Sopel wasn't enough to solve the Cap issues
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Nope
There is no way they can move Huet either. And as valuable as Campbell was for the playoffs (and how bad the team was during his injury) I still think that 7.2 million dollar deal is too high for him but I doubt they’ll trade or find a taker on Phantom.
So that leaves Versteeg, Sharp, and possibly Bolland? er.
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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Jun 24, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Bolland is untouchable
and it’s looking like Sharp is too.
At least one of Versteeg and Ladd is gone, methinks. I need to do the math to actually figure it out, though.
I think Lalonde is a sure
thing at this point. We’ll probably keep Hendry and let Boynton go. What would our D lines look like next year?
Teeth/Bizcuit
Campbell/Hendry
Hammer/Lalonde
If Lalonde was able to grow extremely quick, the Hawks could enjoy 3 very capable two-way defensemen.
If they re-sign hammer
he’s going to get top 4 money and he’s going to get top 4 minutes. Why would he move down to the third pairing?
Ditto for CNS
yeah it'll be the regular season again
it’ll be okay to ice a meh third-pairing against a lot of the teams we’ll be playing
not necessarily 3rd paring
I’m just pairing guys up. It makes little sense to have Campbell and LaLonde together and I fear that LaLonde and Hendry could be a disaster.
I don’t see Hammer getting top 4 money this coming year.
I suppose I'd have to do a little more research to verify this
but I’d guess that 2.5 or 3 mil and up is top 4 money, and I think he may come in around this number.
Anybody have any input on top 4 money, or 4th Dman money?
Ditto for CNS
I don't see how money drives this
Nintendo has got to be top 4.
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by cliffkoroll on Jun 24, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree, he is top four no matter what
but in my reply to aeroplane I mentioned that he’d get top 4 minutes and top 4 money, and the money comment took on a life of its own
Ditto for CNS
you don’t think he’ll sign a one-year contract for around $1.5 mil? I suppose if someone tries to scoop him up for $3 mil or so, do we try to pay him that, or do we take the 1st and 3rd round picks?
No way he signs that. I’d be insulted if I were him and the Hawks offered that, actually. And yes, you take those picks, but I highly doubt anyone’s going to be willing to give that up for a #4 defenseman.
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How much is his qualifying offer going to be?
I forget how to calculate that qualifying offer, but obviously that starting point gives us a better idea on where the offer will end up.
Ditto for CNS
It's 110%
so 666k x 110% = 666k + 66.6k = 732.6k?
But wait, can we offer more? Or do you have to wait for other teams to submit offer sheets?
Or actually, it looks like other teams can submit offer sheets anyway, so maybe it doesn’t matter.
Under 660 a year ia a 10% raise, 660 to 1 mill is a 5% raise
qualifying offer to Hammer is 700k
qualifying offer to Hendry is 715k
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make sure if you offer up more, you make them UFAs first
by skipping the whole qualifying offer nonsense. This way, you have an excuse for overpaying them.
Ditto for CNS
other teams would
have to offer their #1 and #3 picks if they signed Hammer for anything over $2.5 mil.
Lalonde has less than 10
AHL games. That is not a lot at all, especially for a defenseman. He’s also only 20, and there are only a handful of Doughtys in the world. I would be really surprised if he’s ready.
Wouldn’t the team want him to get a lot of playing time? He’s not going to do that up here – the AHL is probably a better decision for him. Maybe we’ll see him called up periodically but full time? I’m just not sold yet.
by Katherine215 on Jun 24, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree. He was a middle-tier prospect with promise before he busted out last year. The best thing possible for him would be to spend the year in Rockford. I can see him getting a couple of games in during October, but he’d definitely do better getting 20 minutes a game in the AHL instead of 6 or 7 here.
www.mjt.org
LaLonde
could be better off getting seasoned in Rockford next season, but he’ll be with the big club. I’d be surprised otherwise.
because LaLonde is > than Connelly in terms of upside, even as young as LaLonde is right now.
We could see Connelly instead, but I’d still be surprised if it wasn’t LaLonde.
yes, I agree he's one of our best prospects.
but what makes you say he’s ready for the NHL? Have you seen him play? I haven’t, so I’m wondering. he only played I think 8 games with Rockford.
by Katherine215 on Jun 24, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
wishful thinking
and/or necessity.
Duncs and Seabs may not have been NHL ready when thy started to put in major minutes for the Hawks, but we needed them and didn’t have anyone else to fall back on. So they had to learn fast, and it turned out pretty good in the long run.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
they were also playing
on a losing team that no one was watching. There were no expectations for them. If we were Edmonton, hell yes, Lalonde’s playing. But I like to think we have higher expectations, even from our 6th dman.
by Katherine215 on Jun 24, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I have not watched him play
but there are some who have tracked him and written he’s capable of playing up to NHL standards now.
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by cliffkoroll on Jun 24, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
They dont have the BALLS on break that pairing up. Who knows what happens to Campbell when Super-Nintendo isnt around.
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by HjammerTime on Jun 24, 2010 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
We know very well
See SCF Game 4 (when Hjammer was put in the doghouse and Soupy had to play with Catfish instead)
He did ok
with Boynton and Hendry periodically. not sure I’d want to see either of those pairings permanently though.
by Katherine215 on Jun 24, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
you don't get a great pick for someone down in Fraser's pay grade
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About what round though?
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Jun 24, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions
depending on the amount of the offer sheet - nothing or a 3rd rounder
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Gotcha
thanks man.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Jun 24, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Let's Not Deify Frazz
He was a 4th line center…..barely…sometimes….not in the playoffs for 2 years. Let’s give some young guys a chance. We saw what Fraz could do, and it’s marginal at best.
Fraser
I thought trading Fraser gave a hint on Bowman’s plans for next year. I’m thinking they are going to go with a 20 player team. Then bring up players from the AHL as needed. When the Hawks got a 4th line center back on the Buff trade that meant Fraser and Madden were no longer needed.
Good news for the Hawks
sources are saying the cap will be increased by 2.6 million.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Jun 24, 2010 8:36 AM CDT reply actions
feeling good this morning
about the byfuglien move. Dang I’ll miss the guy, but his playoff performance was key in getting more bang for the buck here. Sell high. Stan pulled off a nice deal. Best part is Hawks won’t have to see him, Eager and Sopes maybe once a year.
Great return on some high priced assets. High marks from me.
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by The Fearless Freep on Jun 24, 2010 8:53 AM CDT reply actions
Nice moves
These two moves were excellent moves by the Hawks. Fraser was nothing more than a 4th line/healthy scratch player and to get a pick for his rights is excellent. I was never of fan, but he played well for 3 weeks at the end of the season, so I respect that.
by Southside Hawks Fan on Jun 24, 2010 9:17 AM CDT reply actions
Press release is out from Edmonton at 9:00 AM
It’s a done deal.
by GenPabloSecobar on Jun 24, 2010 9:37 AM CDT reply actions
Stockpiling Picks
So the Hawks are loading up on picks right now. Not a terrible move for a team trying to unload a lot of $$$. Think it might be possible that they dangle a couple good draft picks with Huet to make him more enticing to a team with cap space and need of picks?
It would really be a miracle
to have any team take Huet’s full cap hit. I don’t see it happening, even with the addition of versteeg and/or draft picks.
Ditto for CNS
Who's got that miracle pill for GMs
the “new scenery will revive him” medication? Anyone?
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
booze
lots of booze
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by cliffkoroll on Jun 24, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I wish the Hawks would put me on salary,
to just go around partying with opposing GMs.
I could add that much helpful booze inspired trainwreck to their thought processes.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
You would count against the cap. No dice.
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Things have changed forever, we're the Ramblin' Boys of Pleasure
it's a great move,
along with getting near NHL prospects from other teams. We currently have one of the best cores in the league, we’re young, we have capable prospects in Beach and LaLonde and while we may not win the Cup again next year, we’ll still be damn good and increase our chances of another run at multiple championships in a few years time.
I think these are the best moves to have Detroit Redwing type success.
Huet’s going nowhere. Unless another team can eat the high salary for two years, piss off their fan base for making a backwards move.
Never Know
Some goalies get injured during training camp or early on and Huet looks a little better. There will ALWAYS be some GM or coach that will think he can fix Huet. Worst comes to worst we’ll have some high scoring games in Rockford.
Yeah, but remember how good Huet can be?
The Capitals got an amazing run from him heading into the playoffs in the season before he signed with us. My problem with him has never really been the quality of his play (think back to Game 5 vs. Detroit last playoffs), but the consistency of his play. If he can play consistently at or near the top of his game, you could argue he’d be well worth the money…
bingo.
I think chicago was one of the worst possible places to harbor the growth of a guy like this too. I realize it’s hoping against hope at this point, but I maintain that the guy could still string it together and be great in the future. At this point, it’s just very unlikely he’ll get another chance to do this, since nobody’s willing to pay him the chappelle money.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
agree/disagree
agree that Huet is inconsistant. Agree that he can be very good for periods of time.
disagree that anyone would want to “fix” one of the highest paid goalies in the leage, one that turns 36 next year and someone that is yet to play over 48 games in one season.
Even Jimmy Howard has notched a 60+ game season.
He played 52 in 07/08 (you counted the season he was traded as 2 seasons)
but your point still stands. I wasn’t implying anyone would be willing to take the risk, just pointing out that it isn’t outwith the realms of possibility for him to become a great goalie.
Also, I must admit I forgot he is as old as he is.
so far i like all that the hawks are doing
smart moves with players who were simply too much money or who can be replaced
In other news
Isner wins! 6-4, 3-6, 6-7, 7-6, 70-68!!
And Pandas and Pasta-Eaters are having a very interesting last 5 minutes of their match, wow.
What a
ridiculous match. There is really nothing else I can say about it. I hope they give Isner an extra day off.
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He was called for a doubles match
halfway through the match yesterday. They apparently cancelled it (the doubles match), but I don’t know if that means he’s out of the doubles.
they told him he was rescheduled for the doubles match
half an hour after the Marathon Match ended. He told them that was a mean joke.
But I’m not sure they were joking.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
pandas and pasta-eaters
great end to the match. Italy had a chance if they hadn’t given up that 3rd goal to Solvakia’s bench. Not that i’ll shed any tears from an early Italian exit.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
sigh.
I keep reading that as paste-eaters. Oh, Eager, what have you done to me?
by Katherine215 on Jun 24, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh man
I didn’t even realize I read it wrong until I read your comment.
I think it’s more SCH than Eags thoug
Ralph Wiggum?
Ralph: Mommy, can you open my milk?
Ms. Hoover: I’m not your mommy, Ralph.
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THIS IS A TERRIBLE TRADE
Fraser provided much needed depth on our ‘healthy scratch’ line. I understand Byfuglien, but this is unbelievable. Sixth round pick?!? He was at least worth a fifth rounder.
1961 is a long time ago.
In all fairness
it’s the first pick in the 6th. But I agree, he was a capapble 4th liner and wasn’t all that expensive
by Chris Roberts on Jun 24, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
On the surface, you would think he'd be worth a bit more value
But let’s let the entire off-season play out before we judge all of the moves. Stan might be stock piling picks to make a package for another deal
by Northside_Dan on Jun 24, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Is just me or
did marion hossa come on the pitch to help slovika beat italy. ha
Bash my face...........Hawks WIN!!!!!!
looked like it to me
and i believe it was Toskala in goal for Italy. Just look at the stats:
5 goals on 6 SOGs for the tournement.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
Holy shit. Really!?
Hey, goalie teammate, we’re only going to allow 6 shots your way, total, for three games, is that cool?
Wow, really? Um, yeah, that should be no problem!
Either all 6 shots were of the so-incredibly-amazing-my-grandma-could-score variety, or their goalie will be taking a different flight home, changing his name, and moving to Thailand.
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
I feel like goaltending in soccer is way more of a team effort than in hockey
I mean, the net is so huge — plus you look at the massive advantage to the shooter in any 1-on-1 situation… you could easily get a stat like this being a very good goalie but with a very poor defense in front of you.
Oh, I know
you can’t compare the two…that’s why I wanted to see (from those who were watching/following the WC closely) what those chances looked like.
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
this is very true
I didn’t see all the goals against, but that last goal he gave up — the goalie did the right thing, the finish by the Slovakian players was fantastic though, The scorer got through in the first place but busting ass on a throw in while 2 or 3 Italian defenders just watched him streak past them.
I definitely put a lot of blame on the Italian D, but their offense also failed to show life until they were down by 2 goals with 20 min left to play. so I blame their O too. Blame all around.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
He was left out to dry on at least the last two goals against Slovakia (I don’t remember the first one).
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
The first goal
an Italian defender just gave the ball away a few yards outside the box, leaving him horribly out of position. Slovak attacker ran through the gap, got the ball & hit it in.
Also, it’s unfair to compare goalies in hockey to goalies in football. Not every shot in football is stoppable, the way it (sort of) is in hockey.
Wow...
that’s almost exactly what I said while watching the game.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
Is it just me or
did Roberto LuonGOAL just give up another rebound?
Everyone dies. It is the only true and lasting justice in life.
Yeah
not completely the goalies fault…. his defensive line was sleeping.
Bash my face...........Hawks WIN!!!!!!
Especially on that 3rd goal
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Marleau and Pavelski ...
just signed, each 4-yr deals, Patty getting 6.9 per and Joe getting 4 per.
www.mjt.org
Guess that'll end that speculation
I think that was what people were expecting for JoePa, not sure on Patty. I wonder where Nabby’s going to end up now.
i thought for sure Marleau
was going somewhere else. I guess the Sharks aren’t willing to give up on Marleau-Thornton-somebody just yet.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
speculation
one of the espn writers wrote that LA might have gone after marleau if they lost out on Kovalchuk. LA + Kovalchuk or Marleau is pretty scary.
Ditto for CNS
agreed
i think LA will be back with a vengence in any case next year…..even without a Marleau or Kovy type player.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
As If I've stated before
I took a liking to that LA team in the playoffs this last year. It was fun watching their powerplay torture vancouver for 6 games, and if the hawks would’ve lost against nashville and LA would’ve beaten Vancouver, they would’ve become my new rooting interest for the playoff run.
Ditto for CNS
LA seemed like they were on the Hawks upward spiral - just a bit back from us
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
agree
now that the hawks have won the cup, I believe you’ll find analysts comparing other teams’ progress to the hawks “roadmap” in building a championship team. Kinda cool, huh? Anyway, I think LA is doing a great job of building up their young corps of players and a solid, if yet unspectacular goaltender in Quick. They will be the biggest challengers to VAN and SJ in the west.
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by The Fearless Freep on Jun 24, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow!
$6.9 for Marleau? Does that seem high or is it just me?
by Katherine215 on Jun 24, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I like the deal for Marleau. If it hadn’t have been for Marleau playing so well in the WCF we probably would have swept the Shar … oh ya.
www.mjt.org
… but I do think it’s a good deal. Four years brings him to a contract year before he turns 35, which will let some team sign him to a top-heavy contract without getting potentially saddled with a bad cap hit. Good for both sides, and he is a phenomenal player.
www.mjt.org
I like Marleau
just thought the $6.9 seemed high, given we gave 19 and 88 a little less. Though they are younger. eh, what do I care about the Sharks cap, right?
by Katherine215 on Jun 24, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
I guess they decided he was due a raise. He was making 6 in his last contract, I think, and he did have quite a year, 4th overall in goals, top-15 in points, and the only consistent playoff performance on the team.
www.mjt.org
All good points.
No idea why it surprised me. He did have a couple less points than Kane, definitely more goals.
by Katherine215 on Jun 24, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
funny because so many Shark fans
hated him before the playoffs. Blame PAT
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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Jun 24, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm in the camp
that this is too much money. Then again, we pay a guy named after a soup company over $7 mil a year. What do I know about building championship teams?
Why is there all this love for Frazz?
I have nothing against the guy, but I don’t think he contributed much, did he? I don’t think a 6th round pick is much of a pick up on our end, but I’m guessing this is some kind of cap strategy going on with this trade.
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Agreed
Sentimental bullshit…..Nothing more.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
by HjammerTime on Jun 24, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
short term memory...
Kop/Frazz/Eager dominance that helped propel a late season frenzy following our march shit-fest.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
Yes....
I tell you one thing however….
….I would much rather have Eager than Burish. Would love to have seen Eager stick around. He had some speed/skill but a mean streak. Burish has none of these qualities…. Kop stepped it up when it counted too…
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
by HjammerTime on Jun 24, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions
ditto on the eager/burish statement
burish doesn’t seem to be much more than a chemistry guy. Maybe if he’s healthy for a full season this year he’ll make some plays (like he did in 08-09), but I’d rather have eags.
Ditto for CNS
I disagree
Eager took too many stupid penalties. Burish seems important to team spirit, doesn’t take those penalties, and sometimes gets a few minutes on the ice.
The sun never sets on a badass
good points
all around. We’ve lost two big guys in Buff and Eager, and we’re perhaps losing Ladd. Are we giving up too much “toughness”, or does does one named Beach make up for all that lost size and grit?
Or perhaps losing both Buff and Eager point to the Hawks keeping Ladd and losing Steegs?
Bickell will be here too, I figure
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
another thing about penalties
is that Burish seem to draw a lot of penalties for the little amount of time he’s on the ice.
by blackhawkeyes on Jun 24, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
His ability to get under the opposition's skin is spectacular
And he really is a chemistry guy. I’d be very surprised if he wasn’t on the team next year because of those intangibles.
and he's cheap!
and I know that it doesn’t matter to Stan, but I think he likes playing for his “hometown” team
by blackhawkeyes on Jun 24, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks, Trixietrx!
I agree with what you said, and with what blackhawkeyes said right below.
Its no big secret that I am a HUGE fan of Burish. I love what he brings to the team. It is the intangibles, and he just plays smart, solid hockey. He brings the energy and he draws a strangely disproportionate number of penalties for his TOI.
I love the guy for that stuff. He’s not expensive, he’s the kind of player that they can probably sign to a 12 year, 13 – 15 million dollar contract, and he would never stop playing the same way.
Everyone dies. It is the only true and lasting justice in life.
I'm expecting Burwood
to be headed elsewhere still. A great character, but really didn’t show me a lot this year – I know he was coming off of a bad knee injury, so maybe the front office has a good handle on Bur’s potential. Miss seeing Eager go, even with all of the dumb penalties he would often take.
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by The Fearless Freep on Jun 24, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought Eager was trending up - I feared Burish was trending down
as to effectiveness/non-stupidity (with periodic relapses of course)
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Exactly.
"It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man." - Jeremy Roenick
by The Fearless Freep on Jun 24, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I only think you're half-right
I definitely agree that Eager was trending up. I don’t agree that Burish was trending down.
He missed nearly the entire season, and still managed to play some solid hockey for us down the stretch.
Everyone dies. It is the only true and lasting justice in life.
I'm getting confused
why are people continually confusing “best wishes/thanks for the past year” with “OMGNOOOOOOOO WE LOST BELOVED ”?
When we lose a player from our Stanley Cup team, of course we’re going to be sentimental about their contributions. And from my readings, the only reason people are upset with the Frazzle trade is they thought we could’ve gotten more than a R6 draft pick, and people will miss Sopel for his classiness off the ice and willingness to take the puck on the ice.
I don’t think we’ll see crazed “OMGNOOOOO” style posts until we trade VerBeauty or Ladd (depending on what we get back). So far everything has been pretty even-tempered, so I don’t get why people seem to think these comments are all effused with loving praise for our dearly-departed.
thank you
since when did missing a player’s contributions off-ice or thanking them for what they did while here fall into the category of “unreasonable?” I didn’t think we’d keep Frazz, and although i’m not sure this move really helps our cap woes, it’s fine as a business decision.
But did it make me happy to see a Hawks player sporting a curly red-haired fro during the playoffs. Of course! and if you tell me you didn’t enjoy that, you’re lying. Don’t lie to me.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm with you on this one
Keep Laddy around.
I like Ladd
but I think he is easier to replace than Versteeg! (and more inexpensively replaced).
But I will miss Ari
when they eventually do the calendar with the Hawks and their pets.
And the Fraz-fro is epic. I will so miss the Fraz-fro. sniff He was worth the month just to watch him try to contain his hair under his bucket.
Not sure how I confused those, but you're right!
Nevermind. I smoke good crack. Bye bye Fraz-fro! :)
He is a mediocre NHL hockey player, as evidenced by little to no playoff time during the last two postseasons.
The fact that we got anything for him is a win.
Let's not forget
That 6th rounder is the first pick of the sixth round. Pretty good return on a guy who is so easily replaceable.
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by HungryHungryPanda on Jun 24, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
is that the case
If they do NHL drafts like they do NFL drafts, Edmonton would have the last pick in the even numbered rounds and the first pick in the odd numbered rounds, right?
Ditto for CNS
More like
Fantasy Football or something (called a snake draft for anyone who cares)
by Chris Roberts on Jun 24, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I hate fantasy football
so I can’t even use that excuse for my mental lapse, but thanks
Ditto for CNS
I hope this is true
I thought Frazz was every bit as mediocre as people are making him out to be, but he was also a very well-rounded mediocre player. He did everything equally mediocre-ly (they did a pretty good job of pumping up this fact over at C&B).
He was waaay above mediocre when it came to hurting people’s knuckles with his face.
by Hjammer of the Gods on Jun 24, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
basically yes, but he seemed somewhat effective in the limited role given when he played
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Oh, I agree with that absolutely
He was better than most teams could hope for, as a fourth line center. I think he’s serviceable on a higher line on a different team (I don’t know enough about the Oilers to know) and they’ll love his versatility.
from what little I've seen of them internationally - they do, but far from well
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Setoguchi sounds like a Japanese name
but Devon? Kinda looks Amerasian.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
the ony consistent free kicks
i’ve seen all tournement
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Seems to me that the art of the free kick would line up very well with the Japanese obsession with technique. They might not be good at seeing the field, developing plays, and getting a good first touch on a pass, but kicking the ball from a stationary position and trying to get it to do what you want…I can see them perfecting that into a licensed artisanal skill.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Remember
a few years ago, the Kings had a Japanese goalie? I think he was the first (and thus far, only) Asian played to play in the NHL. So I think they save better than they snipe.
Native-born Asian, perhaps, but last I checked, Setoguchi is not a European last name.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
There was (were) one (or more) players born there to North American parents (military, etc.)
but they largely grew up in North America
and there is Paul Kariya (1st generation over here)
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
don't know about the Japanese goalie
but wrong on the other account. The Islanders ice Richard Park (who’s from Seoul). I believe Park even scored one of the goals against the Hawks when we played them in late Feb/early March.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't forget Brandon Yip!
I remember seeing the number somewhere, and if it was single digits, it’s at least in the high single digits.
Also, I remember that goal… was not a fun game to watch, or month for that matter.
oh apparently Yip isn't 100% either
3/4 Chinese and 1/4 Irish
Either way, Wikipedia answers all:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ice_hockey_players_of_Asian_descent
Paul Kariya
is half Japanese
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
but Kariya was also canadian-born, right? I thinking it was asian-born players we were looking at.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Man, I remember him...
…I could be wrong about this, but wasn’t Jim Paek also deaf? Seriously, I think he was, or at least had a hearing disability.
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by The Fearless Freep on Jun 24, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
richard park?
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 24, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
there's a scattering of Asian players around but
Jim Paek was the first native-born player (born in S. Korea) to play in the NHL (Penguins, 90-93 – I think I still have his NHL card somewhere) and has 2 Stanley Cups with the Pens.
There were a couple guys before him, but they were either halpa or only played 1 period of 1 game.
Now there’s a bunch, but most are half-asian. Richard Park is still playing in the NHL and Fukufuji (the Kings goalie) is in Europe now, I think.
While I was there from 94 - 97
I played for “Team USA” against a lot of Japanese University teams and got to go to an international tournament that they hosted.
They do play, and they’re not great at it. They do play as one would expect them to. Very deliberate and methodical, you don’t see a lot of impressive creativity on the ice. They skate within the confines of their system and do it well, but nothing exceptional.
Of course, I wrote that in present tense, based upon my experience between 94 and 97. Things might have changed since then, I guess.
Everyone dies. It is the only true and lasting justice in life.
Is anyone watching the Japan-Denmark game?
Just now, the color commentator said, “Japanese royalty in the stadium today.” At that exact moment, they switched the camera to two Danish fans with Danish flags wrapped around their heads and bare chests painted red with a white cross.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
missed that
but have the japanese EVER looked this good? I thought the Danes had been playing really well before today…..
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
They looked good in 2002.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
And their women often look quite good (when there isn’t a chair near by for scale).
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
Scarlett was BigC.
Italian beefs >> Cheesesteak
Regardless of the Series outcome, Chicago dominates on the important points.
I think Japan
did quite well in 2002, when the World Cup was held there, didn’t they?
That said, they do seem to be getting steadily better with time.
i thought they looked ok in 2002
but i thought the South Koreans looked much better. and being the 2 host countries, maybe i just put Japan on a lower rung in my mind for that reason.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Zee Germands
Are looking good (minus the Serbia debacle) and the Dutch are kind of kicking ass too. But the Dutch are almost certainly gonna fuck up at some point. Which is a shame.
But yeah, I don’t like France, Italy or England, so their struggles were greatly amusing. France especially, that shit was just fantastic.
2006/2010 by continent
Amount of teams that made it past 1st round (2006/2010)
Europe – 10/5
S. America – 3/4
Asia – 1/2 (the one “Asian” team in 2006 was Australia)
Africa – 1/1
N. America – 1/2
Still 2 more teams to be awarded spots Europe will either end up with 6 or 7 advancing teams and S. America will end up with either 4 or 5, depending how Chile does against Spain.
I don’t know if the Dutch will fuck it up this year. They’re probably feeling pretty comfortable, almost like they were playing at home. It wouldn’t surprise me if most of the whites in South Africa were now supporting the Oranje, and that’s got to count for something, eh?
I quite like the Dutch
and generally support them. They’ve never really seemed “bad” going into a tournament, but I always think they should do better. A lot like Spain, actually.
Same here, but I do think the language and cultural histories of the two countries might make this a good World Cup for them.
i wouldn't mind seeing the Dutch win
them and Spain were the two European teams id picked to make a deep run. plus, they’ve never won it.
Though to be fair, if your country isn’t Italy, England, France, West Germany, Uruguay, Brazil, or Argentina , then you’ve never won it. Plus England and France only won it once, and Germany hasn’t since reunification. This would be the reason the only ones I don’t want to see win are Brazil, Argentina, or Italy.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I never want to see England win it. That would be the worst possible thing that could happen to world football. The US winning a World Cup would be one of the best, because if the US can ever play at that level, we’ll probably push the development of the game in exciting directions that it never would have gone otherwise (and those directions would probably be antithetical to the English ethic).
I also never want to see a Dunga-coached side win. That would be almost as bad as England winning another title.
The English winning
would be even worse for British sports TV/media in general. The Scottish, Welsh & Northern Irish all hear about 1966 enough as it is, we don’t wanna hear about 2010 (or any other year) the same amount.
well this year
they certainly don’t deserve it, just as the french an italians didn’t deserve to move on. So no, i don’t want England to win this one. If they ever develop enough talent though, that doesn’t consist of self-entitled brats like Rooney, I might consider being ok with the idea of them winning
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I actually generally like English players
like Lampard, Gerard, Dafoe, etc. but I really, really don’t want to have to deal with the inevitable blanket media coverage from now until the heat death of the Universe about it should they win.
i like many of them as well, like Lampard, and obviously i like Gerrard. But there are also a fair share of prima donnas that annoy me. And internationally, they just don’t play well together.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know
Rooney, Lampard, Gerrard and Ferdinand are all world-class (when they turn up), but England seem to be very good at making a few excellent players and then not being able to back them up with a good enough supporting cast. Not that I’m complaining, mind you.
I don't know that much about soccer...
But I watched England vs USA a while back… Isn’t Huet England’s Goalie?
"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."
Definitely rooting for The Netherlands if the US loses
Besides being 100% Dutch, Brilliant Orange is one of the best sports books ever written.
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by HungryHungryPanda on Jun 24, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Geez, that was awkward phrasing
"I have only space enough to add: against the assault of desperate pandas nothing can stand."
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by HungryHungryPanda on Jun 24, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
true, the Slovakians looked great today. Slovenia also looked good, even though they aren’t advancing. But overall, this has not been Europe’s year. And that’s not even counting the fact the Swedes didn’t even qualify for the World cup this year, and they are usually World Cup mainstays. I think the most dominant-looking teams are from Latin America.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
apparently we got Joey Crabb in the Atlanta deal?
Can anyone confirm this?
"Showin' her my Toews-face!"
Great.
Haven’t heard much but what I have has been good.
"Showin' her my Toews-face!"
we haven't talked about him much here
He was sort of an afterthought in the trade news.
by Katherine215 on Jun 24, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah being 27 and just starting your nhl career
unless you’re a goalie from finland, chances are you’re not going to be anything exciting…i’m still hoping Morin turns into something in a few years
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
by desertindian on Jun 24, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I got to watch him play a handful of times
He’s probably going to be a Fraser type of player.
Capable of giving you some energy shifts and producing respectable 4th line numbers with the time that he gets.
As mentioned by Katherine215, an afterthought, to be sure. Might have been one of those “Since we’re taking 3 players from you, our roster will be too large, so you’ve got to take somebody from us, too” deals.
Everyone dies. It is the only true and lasting justice in life.
him and Pavelski
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 24, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
"Washington Bullets"
You didn’t have to mention the first part — it was self evident :)
by VerStig on Jun 24, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I know they are making room for some big signings,
but this makes me sad. I have a softspot for the farm boy.
by blackhawkeyes on Jun 24, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
big signings huh? We getting Lebron yet?
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
by desertindian on Jun 24, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
The bulls now have room for 2 max deals
before the hinrich trade, the general consensus was that they could sign one max deal and would have to do a sign and trade with a guy like deng or hinrich involved to get the other max deal.
I’m coining a new phrase……Bulls are going after “LeBosh”
Ditto for CNS
i've also seen
the possibility of Johnson and Bosh. I don’t know much about basketball, but wouldn’t that also be a pretty excellent line-up? Bosh, Johnson, Rose, Noah and Deng?
yeah, I'll take Johnson
but I’m afraid they’ll overpay for him. Not sure if he should get a max deal and the bulls might give him one if they don’t get LeBron. It’s also possible that they could miss out on Bosh and get a Boozer type guy, who they’d also overpay. However you slice it, the team should be a big time contender.
Ditto for CNS
Bosh wants to be a centerpiece
If the Bulls get ’Bron, say bye to any Bosh dreams.
by Steven Schweickert on Jun 24, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
where did you hear that from?
A max deal and championships sounds a whole lot better than being a centerpiece. What do you even mean by centerpiece, wasn’t he one in Toronto?
Ditto for CNS
from his mouth
big reason I quit on basketball. The egos are a bit inflated.
Amen.
Do you think Heinrich will be wearing Kevlar in the Bullets locker room?
"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."
He wants to be the guy that teams build around.
And yes, he was that in Toronto, the problem is that they weren’t necessarily building well enough around him.
by Steven Schweickert on Jun 24, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Who is Johnson?
I’m entirely serious. I don’t follow basketball at all and I honestly don’t remember hearing about a player with the last name Johnson. Is this Joe Johnson, who Wikipedia just told plays for Atlanta?
I'm fairly behind
But yes, he’s a pretty good player who plays for Atlanta. Last time I followed basketball he was still with Phoenix, and a pretty good shooter if I remember correctly.
You missed an 's'. He's the dude who died for us prior to the playoffs.
Just kidding, I know nothing about basketball. But for the next little while, Johns(s)on is a name that doesn’t inspire confidence.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jun 25, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
This Japanese game reminds me of their opener in ‘06. The Australians were down by two with ten minutes left and won the game. That’s probably not happening today, but it’s worth keeping in mind.
The Japanese do not know how to hold a lead for the victory.
My eye test
which is probably horrible due to my 0.1 soccer IQ and the fact I’m watching without audio (more glancing up from my work… and uh, SCH, occasionally) tells me they look very offensively minded (and it’s worked very well for them so far). Can they play defense?
need to play better D
I kept giggling when watching S.Korea/Nigeria because they (Korea) could never win the headers.
but they KEPT trying!!!
even thought the Nigerians were all at least 2-3 inches taller!!!! awwww…….
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
b/c goalies don’t usually give up the rebound, or else the kick ends up out of bounds
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
You’re putting the ball into play, same as any other kick. Are there any soccer law experts out there who can tell me if a guy can put in his own rebound off the post or cross bar, without it having touched another player?
Yeah, you got it spot-on
it’s putting the ball into play. You can even pass it to another player on your team, if you particularly want (as seen here).
Do you remember that great missed penalty for Arsenal where Jose Reyes was supposed to tap the ball to Henry, but Reyes’ boot slipped off the ball and it basically didn’t move, so suddenly this streaking Henry goes running by without a ball? Of course, Reyes couldn’t touch it a second time, because he’d just put it into play even though it hadn’t moved, and Henry was about twenty feet away. The whole thing was hilarious.
I think it was Pires, but yeah
I’m pretty sure the ref didn’t notice the ball had been hit – barely – and so the penalty was retaken & scored when it shouldn’t have been. Nevertheless, funny as fuck.
No, they cant.
From FIFA Laws of the Game:
• After the players have taken positions in accordance with this Law, the
referee signals for the penalty kick to be taken
• The player taking the penalty kick must kick the ball forward
• He must not play the ball again until it has touched another player
• The ball is in play when it is kicked and moves forward
Are the Japanese really called the "Blue Samurai?"
that’s a pretty cool nickname
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
meeshak, you'll like this
Courtesy of Derek Zona:
http://www.coppernblue.com/2010/6/24/1534936/fan-posts-and-fan-shots-community
Oh, God, that’s just fucked up. Did he really put up rules? Come on, occasionally ragging on someone for putting up a stupid post or putting it in the wrong place is totally different from actually codifying it.
We would have lost out on so much hilarity this season if we had codified rules, instead of letting most stuff slide and then randomly jumping on someone.
No kidding!
We would have missed out on the Buttfudge Waiting Period, for one thing. Just typing that makes me laugh.
Also, Derek Zona seems like a pompous ass. Half the fun of SCH is pretty much anything goes, I would hate we became C&B.
by Katherine215 on Jun 24, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Imagine how many Fan Posts or comments would be left if this were the case?
NEVER use profanity in a FanPost title – it will be removed immediately.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 24, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, I think we're pretty polite in titles
Comments are another story, and I would be tempted to leave SCH if that happened. I CAN’T NOT SWEAR!
by Katherine215 on Jun 24, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the situation can be summed up as follows
by Germware on Jun 24, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow
WTF
Creative people should make FanPosts
Good thing alcohol makes you more “creative” in our case I guess!
But really, wow!
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 24, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Guh
Apparently, tedious, hectoring FanPosts are allowable though.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
This
We would have lost out on so much hilarity this season if we had codified rules, instead of letting most stuff slide and then randomly jumping on someone.
Makes it all such fun!
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 24, 2010 3:43 PM CDT reply actions
Reply Fail
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 24, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
IS that In accordance with the Commenting Guidelines
or is it the Fan Post Guidelines?
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 24, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't want Derek Campbell
to spin the wheel of posting Justice on me.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 24, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Poor Fraz
Are all Oilers fans so… correct?
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by ilikeanactivestick on Jun 25, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
you feel shame
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 24, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
HOW’S IT GOING, GUYS?!?!?!
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Hot as hellfire. Literally.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 24, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
ALSO
DID YOU MISS ME?!?!?!!!!11
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by Chris Burton on Jun 24, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions
you break your Caps button?
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 24, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
No. I had the day off today, and there was this beer in the fridge.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 24, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
What do you think of your recent trade?
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 24, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Which one?
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by Chris Burton on Jun 24, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Both
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 24, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
all of em
Hamhuis, Arnott etc
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 24, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
In short, I’m okay with both deals.
The Hamhuis deal is good because we got actual value (Ryan Parent, draft pick) for a guy who we were never going to keep and was a free agent. Ryan Parent can come in as the 6th defenseman and fill that role quite nicely, especially considering he’s good on the penalty kill which we need. While at first glance it doesn’t look like we need another D, it was a savvy move.
As for Arnott, quite simply, it was time. You knew that the real leadership in the locker room was Weber, Suter, and Sullivan, and it showed on the ice. Arnott didn’t give good effort and whined. I fully expect Weber (or Suter) to be named captain in the next few months.
More importantly, and considering the small return we got for Arnott, this was a salary dump (4.5) by Poile. Matt Halischuk is nothing special, and the 2nd rounder is in 2011. I fully believe this move was made to go get a higher-ish level point producer such as Stephen Weiss in FLA while Colin Wilson works his way into the 1C hole left by Arnott. After Arnott and Hamhuis’ salaries are gone, we have $9m in actual spending money, not just money to the cap. Look for Nashville to be a dark horse in free agency or trade.
Final grade? Probably a B+.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 24, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, my first reaction was “looks like they’re clearing room to go after bigger fish…” Plus Parent’s had hi issues getting back to form this last year, and if any team is a good place for a fledgling d-man to get his confidence back, it’s probably Nashville.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Parent has had a similar back problem to Steve Sullivan. The belief here is that Poile thinks the team trainer can do the same for Parent as Sully.
And yeah, we have two of the NHL’s best defensive prospects in the system to bring up if he fails, and he’s going to be hiding behind Weber, Suter, Franson, and Klein anyway.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 24, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions
did you come looking for affirmation that you're still our favorite bandwagon jumper?
because I think it’s still yes.
Planning any roadtrips to Chicago next season?
Well…/cough. I mean, maybe.
Actually, I was thinking about it. I thought first of Columbus, and then realized that place was a hellhole. Mind if I sleep on your couch? ;)
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by Chris Burton on Jun 24, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
haha well I know there are plans to go to Nashville on at least one of those weekend games, so only if the offer is valid the other way around.
Definitely let me know if anyone plans to come to Nashville.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 24, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I plan to come to Nashville at least once.
The only team closer to me is the Canes, and we only play them once. I hope to make it over the mountains to at least a couple of the Preds/Hawks games.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jun 24, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Prepare for a lot of Tim McGraw.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 24, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah if we show up for a Nashville home game, will you treat us well? or at least promise to get drunk in person?
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Treat you well…I don’t know…yeah, sure. You buy the first beer. ;)
A game in Nashville is really, really fun. Yeah, I’m biased, but still.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 24, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
More or less. I’m pretty nice to opposing fans, but I swear to God, there were some of the dumbassiest Blues fans back in April I had to share a few words of wisdom.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 24, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
"Blues fans"
that alone should have told you something…..
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
One was wearing those ugly as sin retro uni, too.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 24, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Better than
their almost-3rd jersey from a few years back (no, I will never get tired of seeing this in all its glorious hideousness). Link.
by Germware on Jun 24, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hahahahahaahaha. /takes breath
Hahahaahahahahaaha.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 24, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
wow, OMG
i was nowhere NEAR ready for that when i clicked the link. i can’t stop laughing…..
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
you’re just more in the know than i am
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, I should print-screen this
Because it’s almost certainly never going to be said to me on here again.
Can you imagine the players' faces
when they’re sitting in the locker room and tear open the packaging for the first time?
That would’ve been the best “you’ve got to be kidding me” moment, EVER.
more like
ok, WHOSE kid needed an art project for their high school silk screen class? THAT’s the person we blame for this.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
the hideousness of that jersey
will never be wiped clean from my mind.
it's entirely possible this isn't sarcasm
Oh my fucking God
That is hysterical, awesome, and more than a little sad.
by Steven Schweickert on Jun 24, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh my sweet jesus.
Holy… holy shit. What the… HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!
That just made me inebriated.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
i dont get it
whats wrong with it? /sarcasm
by jesus christos on Jun 25, 2010 1:58 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah can't say i'm surprised
I’m willing to be pronger was a nice guy until the blues fans turned him
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
by desertindian on Jun 24, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
*bet
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
by desertindian on Jun 24, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's more of a puzzle
like “ugliest Sex & the City star” or “most blatant football/soccer diver”.
Probably so.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 24, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
It seems to be a common thread among Blues fans...
Did you read the SCF Game 6 OT thread? Freakin’ hilarious.
ha, so much hatred from a team
that could only score goals off tkachuk’s face
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
by desertindian on Jun 24, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
it's a very real possibility for a group trip
though we need to weigh it against the whole Tim McGraw thing.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I can attest to this
It was 2005, but still… that place was rockin’
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by HungryHungryPanda on Jun 24, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
also
I’m pretty sure there is a plan in the works to go spike the cannon in Columbus
Oh, and visit BigC
I hate that fucking cannon.
Fun fact: Nashville is 29-3-1 against CBJ in our last 33.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 24, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
we were totally taking your name in vain a few posts back
it’s less fun talking-shit when you’re not here.
it's entirely possible this isn't sarcasm
/narrows eyes
WHAT DID YOU SAY??!
Fuck, people – you won the Cup, because of me!!!!1
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by Chris Burton on Jun 24, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
it wasn't bad!
just inviting ourselves to your place for the SCH roadtrip to Nashville and bemoaning how it means leaving our “Chris Burton’s a gutter slut” signs at home.
it's entirely possible this isn't sarcasm
THAT was it! i knew i didn’t have it quite right….
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe something about
running through the streets of Nashville yelling that you were a dirty gutter slut. IDK, i don’t remember exactly….
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
WE'RE GOING TO NASHVILLE AND BOOING YOU
just so you know. mwahahahaha!
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 24, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
<3 you too, Chi
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by Chris Burton on Jun 24, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
seriously though
the Hawks’ schedule sucks in terms of road tripping. Nashville’s going to be the (road) highlight of the season.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 24, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
come to Columbus
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 24, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I need more normal people out here
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 24, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
but since you don't know any
your pantsless internet friends will do?
it's entirely possible this isn't sarcasm
true
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 24, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
But the 2 potential games are on Fridays
I’m saving up vacation days. :(
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 24, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
call off
tell them you have mud butt
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 24, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
5.5 hrs
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 24, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
7.5 hours if you have Mutt Butt
So you found Skyline Chili, eh?
"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."
7 hrs, but then I live in South Carolina, not Chi-town
I don’t know how long the drive is from Chicago (from people that I talked to when I attended game 6 of the first round this year, it’s less that 8 hrs), but Nashville’s a pretty cool city, especially around the stadium. You could probably do the drive with only one day off, and since I’m pretty sure all the Hawks’s dates next year come on weekends, it could be an awesome field trip. Hook up with someone from in town to show you amazing barbeque and damn good beer, and you’ve got yourself a weekend. Tickets are cheap (because even in the playoffs, where I bought mine, they were looking to fill seats), hockey is surprisingly good, food is fantastic.
From someone who roadtripped out for the playoffs this year, Nashville is worth the driving!
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jun 25, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Did you mean:
“Dam Good Bier”?
da da duh, da da duh, da da da duh da da duh…
(sorry, couldn’t resist)
Rimshot: ba-dum swish! Yeah, you're right.
Since I can now spot two immediate typos in my post, let’s just call that the third, then call it even.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jun 25, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
anyone read that torch is going to be the assistant coach in atlanta to ramsay?
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
More eveidence that Mariotti is an idiot
i don’t know why Around the Horn was on my tv just now, but they were debating the recent NHL trades, and Mariotti was livid about getting rid of Buff….he feels we should have gotten rid of Sharp or Steeger, but Buff was the wrong one to trade.
it was at this point that I started thinking maybe Mariotti and Mike Milbury were clones from the same set of genes…..
you're shitting me
this guy honestly thought that the hawks were better off with buff the sharp? did he watch the regular season?
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
by desertindian on Jun 24, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
i think i found my bandwagon litmus test
ask hawks fans what they think of buff
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
by desertindian on Jun 24, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Also acceptable
playing them the clip of Roenick saying “It’s the Chicago Blackhawks, man…” and checking for tears.
I'd amend with - "as compared to Sharp."
I would speak very very warmly of Buff.
But since I’m not retarded, I would not infer that Buff > Sharp.
Also, anybody with half a brain should be able to see why his leaving was the inevitable/correct thing to happen.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
I think that’s a huge refinement, ya. I’m a bit more of a Buff lover than is the norm here at SCH. We can all argue all we want about what happened, but the small simple fact is that it had to happen, there were no choices in the matter. And the fact that we got 2 high picks and one prospect with good hands in return … that’s more than I bargained for considering every team in the league knew we were in trouble. I honestly wonder if we would have got the same return for Sharp (I think he is more valuable, but I don’t know if the market would have thought the same). Buff’s value was at its peak, probably never to be higher, and Stan took proper advantage of it.
www.mjt.org
It was a simple "money guy" move by Stan - sell mediocre assets when they have a brief spike in value
And get what you can for them when the getting is at its peak
mission accomplished there
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
from what I hear
a LOT of teams are asking for Sharp. The answer is no. Some GMs thought Buff’s price was too high. Some still think Versteeg’s price is too high. I think Sharp would have warranted more than a cap dump, personally.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jun 26, 2010 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions
The only thing I can say about Mariotti
is I’m SOOOOOOO glad he doesn’t write for a Chicago paper anymore. Now they’re just his own STUPID opinions and not representative of any Chicagoans.
Buff > Sharp?! God.
by Katherine215 on Jun 24, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Mariotti
There should be a statue of his boss for “how to treat prima donnas in the workplace.” When the Primo whines “If I don’t get my way I’m going to quit.” The correct response should always be “resignation excepted!!!”
accepted?
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
by cliffkoroll on Jun 25, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
well, when Woody Paige sounds like the voice of reason in comparison.....
Paige still didn’t think they should have traded buff, but he did at least acknowledge that “the Hawks had some issues with salary cap, so….”
by puppetmasterp on Jun 24, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
as much as mariotti is an idiot,
I’m happy that someone on ESPN is talking about hockey in the offseason. and the fact that they were talking about an inconsistent top-6 forward and not crosby vs. ovechkin makes me happy.
don’t get me wrong, I’d rather he didn’t speak like a jackass, but at least it’s things like this that are starting to put the NHL on the map. if a segment on around the horn gets a few more hockey fans, it’s worth the idiocy. new fans don’t start out by knowing everything, but they can learn.
by blackhawkeyes on Jun 24, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Good advice for noobs:
And remember everybody, one way in which hockey is similar to other sports, is that Mariotti is still a useless fuck stick.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
Mariotti is a joke.
Only in the world of Mariotti (or anyone else who only watches 6.5 hockey games a year for that matter) would you consider Byfuglien a more valuable piece than Sharp. christ. I think we hosed Atlanta on that one, and judging by the reaction over at their SB blog, they think they got hosed as well. They all wanted sharp for what they gave up. Can’t say I blame them, there is no way that Byfuglien was actually worth a first round pick and a prospect that was taken in the second round (Morin). Hats off to Bowman on that one.
And while Anahiem returns to the locker room, Todd Bertuzzi is cuffed and returns to the squad car.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 24, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah they wanted Sharp, but
Sharp was worth a whole lot more.
Although, like it’s been said, ATL may have nabbed the dark horse gem if Buff becomes Playoff Buff full time.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
and if he does
thankfully he’s in the EC. Although maybe becoming beloved in Atlanta might motivate him?
If playing on the best team in the league in front of SRO crowds every game can't motivate you
I really don’t think a change of scenery to Atlanta will. Though, if anything will motivate him, it’s that he’s in a contract year.
Agreed.
If I had to make a guess, I’d say Buff’s productivity declines markedly in the ATL. He had Chi-town crowds,amazing coaches, and some of the best players in the league as his captain/alts/linemates to motivate him this year. Atlanta gives him none of those things. If I were a betting person, I’d put heavy money on a steep Buff decline, and maybe on Atlanta trading him again within the next three years.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jun 25, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I wonder if being surrounded by less elite talent
might light a fire under his ass. If he slacks off, Toews, Kane, Hossa, Sharp, Keith et all won’t be around to work hard for him. So maybe he picks up his effort/intensity to a higher level more consistently.
Or he’s just regular season Buff, with more eyes on him more often, because all this other guys aren’t there.
I want him to be his best (as long as it doesn’t hurt us) but I’m not sure what his best is.
by shinkicker on Jun 25, 2010 11:46 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
well, if buff's game declines this year
He might not be on atlanta for long, he’s a free agent after the 2010-11 season.
Ditto for CNS
I don't have good internet access typically
Did asshat Mariotti actually imply that Byfuglien was a more valuable piece to our championship team than Sharp?
Just when you think the clown couldn’t possibly shove his foot any further down his throat, he shits out his foot, and inserts it again. Wow.
Doesn’t he actually get paid to write his drivel?
Aren’t we SO MUCH better at it than him?
Everyone dies. It is the only true and lasting justice in life.
we ARE better
Wasn’t this Sharpy’s 4th or 5th CONSECUTIVE 20 GOAL SEASON???
Im just sayin, is all.
Plus we have pretty promising scouting report to look forward to in Marcus Kruger.
Anytime we have a player in the system being compared to Alex Semin is a good sign in my opinion.
"Blackhawk fans around the world, you have endured 49 years of frustration but your patience has finally paid off! Lord Stanley's new address is "SWEET HOME CHICAGO"! THE CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS HAVE WON THE STANLEY CUP! THEY'VE WON THE STANLEY CUP! ITS OVER! THEY'VE WON IT! THE CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS ARE STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!!!!" - John Wiedeman & Troy Murray, June 9th, 2010.
I saw that too...
Had Around The Horn on because I had been watching soccer. All those guys are just a bunch of talking buffoons regardless IMO, a bunch of blowhards. Mariotti has always been an idiot and just talks nonsense all the time.
What’s with the hosts voice, the guy sounds completely fake!
Would you package Huet with a the 30th and and 2nd round pick and maybe Fraser's 6th round pick for a hockey puck
we then get the relief we need
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
I'd send Huet off
for a 12 pack of Beast and call it a day.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 24, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd send Huet off
for a 12 pack of Beast and call it a day.
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 24, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
you feel
very strongly about this statement, eh?
Did I piss in somebodies Wheaties?
But I think my sarcasm detector may be defective
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 24, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Ahhhhh
Now it makes sense (had to refresh the page), I have no idea how the Fuck* that Happened. I had only one of them on my page. Okay So I pissed in my Own Fucking* Wheaties, Shit*!
*WARNING: Do not post this word on Copper and Blue they will get ass hurt, delete your comment/post, may ban you, and kidnap your first born!
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 24, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Remember the minor league baseball player...
that got traded for 10 baseball bats? There is some hope!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,357927,00.html
Poor Kid
He ended up dying from an OD in 2008, attributed to constant heckling he always got after that trade (Fans, Players and even Umps), especially after one outing in June 2008.
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII
James Madison is my Hero!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 24, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
I just read that after I posted. Thats what I get for not re-researching stuff I remember from last year.
TSN Mock Draft
Just had the ’Hawks selecting with the 24th pick Riley Sheahan a centre from Notre Dame. Not amazing numbers in his freshman year but is heavily regarded as an excellent two-way centreman.
And with the 30th pick they had the ‘Hawks select Jordan Weal. Considered a little too small but still managed to net 102 points in the WHL this season with the Regina Pats. Everything I’ve read about this kid is impressive and I hope the ’Hawks grab him either with this pick of the 24th pick.
2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.
I get the feeling we’re going to go for some large-bodied two-way players. Losing Eager, Buff, and Aliu, and taking on Morin, we’re smaller than I’d like right now. Lots of ways to address this, of course, but it’s just a feeling.
www.mjt.org
I tend to agree that a bit of size will be a factor
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I agree to the extent that we’ve lost some size in the Byfuglien deal, but this kid Weal is the real deal (and, yah, I know that’s bad) and can play anywhere at the forward position. He’s got quick hands and a wicked release and could be a steal @ 24 or 30 should the ’Hawks wait that far to take him.
Although I’m a big fan of size, I’d take skill over size anyday.
2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.
According to TSN
Florida Panthers’ general manager Dale Tallon is shopping 15th overall.
He’s willing to package another player with it to attract an offensive forward, or would consider a collection of draft picks in return.
Likely a trade that happens on the floor just before the selection, although a number of teams are interested.
Maybe this is where Versteeg ends up.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
15th OA in addition to the 24th and 30th in enticing
But Steeger is worth more than a 15 OA pick. This one still needs to be sweetened (I hope) before the Hawks bite, if they are players. I know we need to dump $, but we must getting something cable in return (less Huet, who needs to be just dumped, man to think I was one of the Huet supporters going into March!)
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 24, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
given the Cap situation - Versteg for the 15th pick wouldn't be a bad deal
if more bodies were involved, so be it, but that as a core might not be bad (under the circumstances)
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Tallon did say
that he’d give up another player. I looked at their roster and didn’t really see anyone of value that would help the Cap situation.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
As the Core of the Deal I'm fine with
But I expect at least a prospect, or 4th liner maybe to go with it. 15th OA by itself, the Hawks can do better for Steeger.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 25, 2010 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
they ought to be able to do better - eventually
but RFA qualifying offers ned to go out next week … and the free agent signing period starts then …
Stan may have to take to deal that’s available now for some Cap timing reasons
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Don't know why I feel compelled to post this in this particular spot, but....
After reading all of the comments and speculation I’ve read here and elsewhere over the last week or so I’m actually starting to think that we’re going to have the same tandem in goal next season.
Moving Huet in any sort of trade is starting to seem nigh on impossible and I just don’t get the feeling that the Hawks are willing to eat whatever portion of his contract they’d have to under any of the other scenarios put forth for relieving us of his services.
I think they’re going to shed as much salary as they can by moving other players and go with younger/cheaper alternatives to fill out the roster. Then lean much more heavily on our big guns next season.
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
I... actually wouldn't be upset about that at all.
Okay, I’d be REALLY upset about paying 6 mill to a backup goalie, but if there were any way to ameliorate Huet’s salary, he’s a good player who would be an outstanding backup to take about half the games from Niemi and keep the pressure off our young goalie when it comes to the full season. We know that Huet can handle 40 games a year with alacrity, and I’d love to see him get a chance to prove himself in that atmosphere. I think it might help him get his confidence back.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jun 25, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Heh heh, happy to provide.
Now that I look back on that post, maybe I should limit the multi-syllabic words. I ended up with ‘ameliorate’ and ‘alacrity’ in the same post, which gives away more than I ever wanted to about my Scrabble addiction.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jun 25, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
I love Scrabble, but I'm terrible at it
and no-one ever wants to play it with me anyway. Tip: “pomaceous” is an awesome word (but hard to work into conversation).
never play against ahnfire then
she’s a scrabble shark.
by puppetmasterp on Jun 25, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
compliments aren't libelous
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
she might be able to spin it
so that she is saying “puppet is stating that I take advantage of other people and exploit them for my gain, when in actuality this is untrue”
FOR SALE: pair of shoes, red, size 32 1/2 wide. Please direct all bids to Joel Quenneville, Chicago Blackhawks. Clown horn sold seperately. Also for sale: 328 dogs+1 pistol (bargain price for Leafs fans!)
by BigCSouthside on Jun 25, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
they're lawyers - being called a shark is a stand alone compliment
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I only lost by six points last time!
by shinkicker on Jun 25, 2010 1:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I have to figure that we're likely to have Huet for next year too
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Confusion will be my epitaph.
Check out the big brain on spokeinthebandwagon!
ameliorate / alacrity…… quit trying to raise the level of discourse. We like it down here in the gutter. (hic! hey, hand me another beer.)
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
one can use big words while sailing the gutter
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Dude, booze is my sole motivator.
It’s not my fault if I’m one of those weird people that recalls more trivia the drunker they get. There’s a reason I’m barred from my local pizza place’s trivia contests, and a reason that I only do trivia in other bars when I know that my somewhat eclectic skill set will be appreciated. I know a lot of useless facts, but booze tends to bring out the best/worst in me.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jun 25, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Ive done that
its fun
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 25, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
rad
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 25, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
It's one of those great weird British things
like Hitch-hiker’s Guide or Monty Python. According to the website, it is “the latest danger sport that combines the thrills of an extreme outdoor activity with the satisfaction of a well-pressed shirt.”
I love Britishness sometimes…
there's an extreme ironing society at my university
it’s one of the most popular. they sometimes iron up in trees on campus.
by WhatWouldBurishDo on Jun 25, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Im the same way
me and my friend used to go to a trivia competition, and I know a LOT normally, but when I was drinking Id pull total insane responses out of my ass and be right, and my friend asks why I know this shit to which I respond “History/poli sci major, dude. I majored in trivia”. We we’re like the NY Yankees of pub trivia, other teams kept bringing more and more people try to beat the two of us
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 25, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I tend to drool a lot the drunker I get.
Do they have competitions for that?
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
eclectic?
you just can’t stop, can you?
(I also noticed a rare, correct use of the word historic somewhere else in this thread.)
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
1 more year, maybe, 2 more years, doubtful
I suppose I could see Huet backing up Niemi for this coming year, but we are going to be pretty tight against the cap next year as well and will have a couple important free agents like Seabrook and Brouwer that will need to be signed. I still don’t think Huet will be on this team come october, but if he is, I can’t see how the hawks could afford to keep him for the last year of his deal.
Ditto for CNS
I figure we have him next year while trying to move him
after next year, the “hard” choice is buying im out and taking a 2 year Cap dent or moving a guy with 1 “too much money” year instead of 2
next summer, a team that has a hot but unproven prospect they want to hand the reigns to might think of 1 year of Huet as co-goalie/mentor for the prospect as being doable, if the deal is right
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
The capocolypse is fairing pretty well so far.
Not quite the fire and brimstone for us, and garage sale for the rest that (surely) some other fans around the league wanted it to be, huh? I’m not going to lose a whole lot of sleep with names like By-fug-lien, Sopel, Eager, and Fraser headed out of town. I’ll miss them all, and wish them well in the future. But with names like Sharp looking to (surely) be staying in Sweet Home Chicago. I can live with it. I think Versteeg is probably next, but again, I can live with it.
And while Anahiem returns to the locker room, Todd Bertuzzi is cuffed and returns to the squad car.
by Detroit Must Die on Jun 24, 2010 8:46 PM CDT reply actions
Is this is capocolypse....
I was think this morning how great the supposed end of the world has been going. Great moves so far by Stan. Still will be interesting to see if Dale takes a flyer on any of his kids. But damn what a great day, The Indian arrives in my mailbox and 5 million off the cap!
"Mr. Probert, Can you please step out of the car."
by chelischili7 on Jun 24, 2010 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Jack Campbell
Jack Campbell with the 15th pick would sure look nice eh?
GENIUS!
"Mr. Probert, Can you please step out of the car."
by chelischili7 on Jun 24, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes and then some...
That would be AWESOME. We would be the soupiest team in the NHL.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
It would be nice
but I don’t think Campbell will be around by then.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
You know it's a good time to be a Hawk fan when ...
the Hawks get a nod from Father Guido Sarduchi during a segmant on the Colbert Report the other night.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/24/colbert-rips-glenn-beck-f_n_623906.html
About a minute into it he says he finally got enough “Vatican points” to get a Blackhawks Jersey. He mumbles it so I’m actually only 85% sure he said a Blackhawks jersey.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jun 24, 2010 9:26 PM CDT reply actions
Almost.
Love Stewart….Colbert is a piece of shit.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
Colbert's much more hit-and-miss
but – to me – when he hits, he’s hilarious. I can see why not everyone would like him, though.
Love Colbert
but it’s probably because I don’t watch his show (only his clips). His one dimensional tricks don’t get old because of that.
Ya....
I’m slightly right of center and find Colbert to be mean spirited while Stewart is about exposing hypocrisy no matter where he finds it.
Colbert is a trumpet for Democrats. I admit I have laughed at that show before but I cant take much more than 10 mins or so at a time.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
by HjammerTime on Jun 25, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
The future may be looking very bright!
By acquiring the 151st pick from the Oilers, the Blackhawks now have 11 selections in the draft—five in the first two rounds (24, 30, 43, 54 and 60)
You can never have too much depth right!
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 24, 2010 9:27 PM CDT reply actions
Its a new day.
I really love how people that fell in love with the Hawks this past season are so pissed Byfuglien is gone. This is a new day in Chicago Sports if you are a Cubs fan and under 35. Our Team finally won a Championship, no longer do we have to build a team to win. We have to build a team to retain and get even better. I love the fact Stan is taking lessons from Pops and stock-piling. I also love that he is trying to undue the few mistakes Dale made. This is awesome and I am so excited for tomorrow and the draft!
"Mr. Probert, Can you please step out of the car."
I'm not overly thrilled he is gone
But certainly not pissed. Having that big body be able to park in front just added to the number of styles the Hawks could throw at a team, and was very important in the Playoffs. I’m just hoping it is not missed next season, if the Hawks can (and should easily be able to) adjust to not having that mountain in front of the net like they did with Buff, this was a very good trade, given return, CAP Clearance, and cost. I actually more bummed about Sopes, but he cost too much for a 3rd pairing D-man, but when your 3rd pairing starts with a player like Sopel, you have a pretty good D-Core!
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 24, 2010 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
To clarify
Next season, meaning the Playoffs, I had no disillusions of Buff really doing much until then,……………………..again.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Jun 24, 2010 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Right
I could see him taking the next year off until April and then lighting it up again and then asking for Toews-like money. I am too bummed about Sopel, the guy played his ass off and went from a Healthy scratch practically to playing meaningful minutes in a Cup Clinching game. But its a business and he made too much, Eager can go to Atlanta and be a moron, he lost my faith after he didn’t stand up for Seabrook against Wiz in Anaheim….Keep stock-piling those picks.
"Mr. Probert, Can you please step out of the car."
by chelischili7 on Jun 24, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
the Hawks may or may not repeat
but you, sir, have dug yourself a helluva hole.
Isn’t Beach a bit green yet?
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
Kaner
was a bit green when he first came up too. Worked out ok so far.
by stanfordron on Jun 25, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Beach is no Kane
even in his differing role.
I’m not saying he won’t pan out, but I don’t see him as being quite as readily ready for NHL play
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I'm gonna stupidly assume no snarkiness here
referring to defending your title
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
oh
I get it.
I don’t think I’ll be repeating.
Second City Hockey Most Postingest Poster of 2009
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
I'm over 35...
But not pissed at all. That being said I hate to see anyone leave that has made a great contribution to bringing the CUP back to Chicago. Buff certainly played a huge role in the playoffs as did Sopel, but it is a business and had to be done. As long as things don’t turn out like they did for the SOX, and I mean the team basically going from heros to has beens, I’m okay with the trades so far.
The thing that can kill a team over a season is lack of chemistry and injuries to key players. Injuries you can’t do much about, and chemistry just happens. I think the SOX lost some of that chemistry losing Rowand and it came back to haunt them. Losing Buff and Sopel I don’t think is nearly as big a deal. The Hawks can certainly score without Buff in front of the net and it’s just a matter of someone filling the role at times. Sopel was a role player on defense and hopefully someone else can step in, we’ll have a whole season to figure out who.
"adjust to not having that mountain in front of the net"
Funny, that. From a Felspost back in October:
That does not mean I’m actively advocating moving Buff. However, if the Hawks think they need to add a piece — say a #6 d-man or new goalie — someone’s got to go. Secondly, someone’s got to go to clear space for Cap Apocalypse in the summer anyway. Of the three most likely — Buff, Barker, and Versteeg — Buff is the most replaceable. It’s funny, for months last season Buff was the whipping boy around here. Then he has one good playoff series (and only one as he didn’t do much against either Calgary or Detroit) and suddenly he’s a hero. Since the opening two games of the season, Buff has done jack and shit this year. You have to get cheaper somewhere, and here’s one place you can. Not only would Brouwer have no problem getting to the front of the net as Buff does, but he’d do it quicker. He’s more responsible in his own zone, and isn’t nullified when playing speedier teams like Detroit.
I only have one question
are we going to play Stonhenge tonight?
How the fuck did you dig this up?
And one comment: I find the grouping of Buff, Barker, and Versteeg to be ominous.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
I hope Stan isn't scribbling notes on napkins during the draft
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
by cliffkoroll on Jun 25, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Some might be poo-poo-ing the recent trades
but isn’t anyone else interested in the prospects we have in the system?
SHAMELESS PLUG ALERT!
let me know.
LETS GO HAWKS!!!!!!
"Blackhawk fans around the world, you have endured 49 years of frustration but your patience has finally paid off! Lord Stanley's new address is "SWEET HOME CHICAGO"! THE CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS HAVE WON THE STANLEY CUP! THEY'VE WON THE STANLEY CUP! ITS OVER! THEY'VE WON IT! THE CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS ARE STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!!!!" - John Wiedeman & Troy Murray, June 9th, 2010.
I've been meaning to ask this for a while
How does the draft system work? Obviously the 14 teams that don’t make the playoffs get the first 14 picks, with the order getting determined by regular season points combined with the Lottery, and the Cup winners get 30th pick and Cup runners-up get 29th pick, but how do the intervening 14 picks work?
For example, the picks from 25-28 are as follows (25 first): Vancouver, Washington, Montreal, SJ. If it was based on playoff performance, shouldn’t the Caps come before the ‘Nucks, given they went out in the first round & Vancouver went out in the second? If it’s based on points in the regular season, why are the Habs picking so late? What’s the system?
Picks 24-28 are determined
Picks 27 & 28 are the Conference Final runner ups (Montreal & San Jose) Montreal gets the 27th pick because they had less regular season points than San Jose.
Picks 24-26 are the balance of the Division winner based on regular season points (Washington / Vancouver / New Jersey and Buffalo)
Hope this makes some kind of sense.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
I'm glad you could make sense of it.
My brain doesn’t get along with the keyboard that well. It took me about 5 attempts to type out an explanation that made some kind of sense.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
haha, it took a minute
but I got it. :)
by Katherine215 on Jun 25, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh, that makes sense
I figured the Conference finalists had got the 27th & 28th picks, but I wasn’t able to work out the Division-winners part. Cheers.
So where's the draft preview?
Where are our fearless leaders to guide us through the ledge-luring capocalypse and draft day miracles? What other trades are in the works?
I want answers!
The Chicago Blackhawks -- 2010 Stanley Cup Champions!!!!!!
"I can't stop crying and laughing." Preacher
I think our fearless alcoholics have forsaken the draft in favor of Cup drunkeness.
We haven’t seen a draft run-down, no prospect profiles, nothing. Were it not for the other assorted SBN blogs doing draft coverage (ahem, links would have been nice, SCH), I wouldn’t have known much about the various prospects.
But at the same time, WE WON THE FUCKING STANLEY CUP. This blog covered more and more deeply into the playoffs than any other. This blog covered a historic event, on the evening of that win. This blog gave so many of us a safe haven.
So I’m not casting stones when I say there hasn’t been coverage of the draft. I wish there had been, yes, but it’s understandable. And at the end of the day, we will have drafted the same talent. We will have picked the same people. The wishes of the fans have no effect on the efforts of the scouts who prep for this year-in/ year-out. So why not just enjoy it? This is an adventure: sometimes sad, sometimes joyous, sometimes ambivilent. That’s hockey. I feel like this is ‘soak it in’ time, before the reality of the regular season starts.
We won the fucking Stanley Cup. At this point, nothing else matters.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jun 25, 2010 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
First of all, I was being semi-sarcastic. Secondly,
this blog matters because you KNOW the Hawks brass, Chicago media, and very knowledgeable hockey people read this blog and get most of their good ideas from here. How will Stan know who to draft if our boys and girl don’t have it covered here? Why do you think we won the Cup? Clearly, the coaches listened to gmh and the alkies.
The Chicago Blackhawks -- 2010 Stanley Cup Champions!!!!!!
"I can't stop crying and laughing." Preacher
by Preacher000 on Jun 25, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Completely OT
but the State Farm spokesman (you know, the creepy Tom Cruise/Mario Lopez mutant) is rapidly joining the ranks of 5 hour energy guy on my list of people that need to be killed with a wood chipper. just had to get that out there
we now return to your regularly scheduled programming
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thats billy mays
sham wow just got arested for beating a hooker
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 25, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
whoops, my bad
I thought billy mays did the shamwow.
by Katherine215 on Jun 25, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought the hooker was the one who did the beating.
[And no, this is not intended as some sort of play on words or double entendre you bunch of pervs. I think the hooker put a hurtin’ on shamwow’s ass.]
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
what idiot gives a hooker tongue?
I hope he had his distemper shot (and the rest) before hand
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
those commercials are awful
So let me get this straight, Tomario (see what I did there) just sits there and tells us about agents and then interupts the agents when they try to say something. That’s it, that’s the whole commerical?! I don’t even get what they’re trying to do with those. Do they think that Tomario cutting off the agent is funny, how could they?
Ditto for CNS
Is that the same Smack...
In the other State Farm commercials that roams coffee houses as the camera moves to waitresses and such? I hate most commercials so try to tune them out as much as possible, or miss half of what I was watching because I changed channels.
bingo
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 25, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
wood chipper?
wouldn’t that be more for disposal purposes than the actual killing?
cf Fargo
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
Im talkin one of those big industrial bastards
that can reduce 5 acres of forest to suburban lawn mulch in about an hour. We put them in feet first, I want to see the look on their faces, whilst I yell, “HOW DARE YOU ANNOY ME WITH YOUR DRIVEL AND ANNOYING MANNERISMS! FUCK YOU! YOU ARE WORSE THAN PIERRE MCGUIRE!”
/engages wood chipper
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 25, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
From the Toronto Maple Leafs' Twitter account
Wild rumour today; Kaberle-Kulemin-Bozak to Edmonton for 1st overall and a big Oiler salary…we’ll see.
There is not enough air in the world for all the laughing I have scheduled…
Wat.
If this takes place, I will join you in your laughing.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jun 25, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
For those of you
who were following the Isner-Mahut match, here is a link to the Guardian’s live blogging of the day’s tennis. The commentary on the Isner-Mahut match starts at 3:45ish, and the blogging quickly descends into a journal of insanity, not unlike House of Leaves. Like the match, it is strangely engrossing.
Loved when he had the epiphany,
that they could just steal their rackets.
Hilarious stuff.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
he refused to attend the WC
unless he was the starter?
by Katherine215 on Jun 25, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
haha I don't know about that
but he just charged wayyyyyy out of his “crease,” cleared it to some Spanish dude with a nice big empty net to work with
that sounds like some horrible season ending injury
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 25, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
if pulling a Johnsson ended one's season
there wouldn’t be any high school hockey at all
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I can't believe
there haven’t been any deals announced yet today for any teams. there’s only 4 hours until the draft starts, I thought we’d see something by now.
The Blackhawks are trying to get LeBron James
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 25, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
but, after we lost Buff
WE NEED A BIG GUY OR WE ARE FUCKED! DIDNT YOU LISTEN TO MARIOTTI!?
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 25, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions
dude
what with the new sig and all, your avatar just looks like animal cruelty and not the shrewd negotiating tactic I know it to be.
Gentlemen! I have invented...this thing!
Im selling the shoes
BUY THESE CLOWNSHOES OR I WILL SHOOT THIS DOG!
better?
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 25, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd like to incorporate teh cup into that picture somehow though
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 25, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
DAMMIT
I DONT KNOW PHOTOSHOP!
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 25, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
a lot of draft deals are absolute last moment things
and they often don’t drop until the draft has started
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Yeah, I remember last year
I’m just impatient!
by Katherine215 on Jun 25, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Little Help...
Anyone have a link to stream in the Sox-Cubs game?
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
Mariotti
I ran into that motherless fuck at the Starbucks on Ohio and State last year, a few days before Game 1 between the Hawks and Red Wings. We stuck up a small conversation and he asked if I watched the show. I said I occasionally watched PTI ( I said this on purpose as he hates Kornheiser) but that none of those shows talked about hockey so I tuned out (another lie I watch all the time) during the NHL playoffs.
He responded to me by saying that basketball was what people wanted to hear about and that nobody liked hockey.
Get fucked Jay Mariotti.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
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