The Steeg Is Gone....The Steeg Has Gone Away
by SamFels on Jun 30, 2010 10:10 PM CDT
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Anyway, tonight, Kris Versteeg was the latest (and perhaps last) cap casualty from our Stanley Cup Champions. He was traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs (man, they love them so overpaid wingers, don't they?) along with Bill Sweatt (cue McClure tears) for Viktor Stalberg, Phillip Paradis, and Chris DiDomenco.
The latter two are prospects, and DIdomenico actually has some upside. Problem is, that upside is coming off snapping his femur like a twin the QMJHL, so we'll see how he bounces back from that. Paradis is apparently not going to be much, but then the Hawks didn't think Sweatt was going to be much either. So there.
The prize is obviously Stalberg, and the kid does have some promise. He's a big boy, and the Hawks could use some size. He scored 9 goals in 40 games with T.O., and that's a team that has zero creative people to get him the puck. One could conceivable see him pot 20 this year, considering.
Most of the time, the team that wins the deal is the team that got the best player. Both the major trades the Hawks have made this year, they would lose on that criterion. However, that wasn't the point of these trades. The point was -- once the Huet situation is resolved -- is the Hawks will have close to $14 mildo of room. That's with 12 players on the pro roster, as well as Beach and Dowell who could be on the big club. Skille and Bickell will probably need to be resigned, but all those hits will come in under $1 million one would have to assume.
I would guess the Hawks just add from here.
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RIP LL DUMPTHEFUCKINGPUCK
"Shut the f*** up" – Derrek Lee. Well said my man, well said.
by jesus christos on Jun 30, 2010 10:15 PM CDT reply actions
Time for a new tagline?
If the booze doesn’t kill you…?
Even though we knew he was going, it’s still really sad to see him go. :(
The new SCH tagline should simply be...
The booze will kill us. I mean, really, we all knew that was the most likely outcome.
by StillLostinNC on Jun 30, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
or... Second City Hockey -
We’re the defending Stanley Cup Champions – and you’re not.
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 30, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
"We have Marian Hossa, and you dont...)
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 30, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
how about..
Hossa won here, how you like that Pittsburgh & Detroit? (crickets)
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
by Johnny Lava on Jun 30, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Nonononono!
See, there’s this curse, see? And it follows him around, see? And if he’s on your team, see, then your team is cursed too, see?
chirp. chirp. chirp. chirp.
2010 Stanley Cup Champions. Booyah.
that sig deserves a +1
how did I not notice it before?
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 2:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I like this
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
by Johnny Lava on Jun 30, 2010 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
My Cousin's Boyfriend
He came up with the nickname “Top Ten” as in Versteeg always tried to get on Sportscenter’s Top Ten.. Genius….I enjoy DUMPTHEFUCKINGPUCK too.
"Mr. Probert, Can you please step out of the car."
Steeger
He and buff drove us nuts but thanks for helping bring us the cup an the dope rhymes VERSTEEG!!!
by Stites8 on Jun 30, 2010 10:17 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Mark the date
June 30, 2010.
fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
certainly illustrates the diversity of the word
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 30, 2010 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
wait
Kane got traded?
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
by Johnny Lava on Jun 30, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Only that
Would warrant that many F-Bombs as above.
"Mr. Probert, Can you please step out of the car."
by chelischili7 on Jun 30, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
pffft
fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jun 30, 2010 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions
It was our troll
I forget his name… and maybe I got the site wrong? But he basically posted these massive multi-page comments all over a post-game thread.
it was niuhuskie224
he apologized though, and NM accepted the apology and unbanned him.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jun 30, 2010 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions
and...
A lot of girls from Lake View would come out and start asking for child support…..since Kane is a man whore and probably now or in the future have many kids by different women (See what I did there)
"Mr. Probert, Can you please step out of the car."
by chelischili7 on Jun 30, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
you got what I was doing
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
by Johnny Lava on Jun 30, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
39 f-bombs?
I would expect a number with more significance from you cliff. 6+30+10, 32…
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 30, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
i wasn't counting
just let me grieve.
fuck fuck fuck
there, i’m done.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jun 30, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
VERSTEEG!
while this was inevitable
it stings. a lot. more than byfuglien did. not sure why. anyway…if there is a god, we’re done cutting. here come the hawks…bring on 2011.
CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS-2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!
two way forward > one way forward
but if this helps us keep TOFTBO, I’m all for it (hmm, nobody’s taken that username… hmmmmmmmm)
ToftboStig?
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 30, 2010 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Toftboy
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 30, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Just registered it
Now I’m ready to break out a username AND my wallet (for a jersey) if this happens. MAKE IT HAPPEN, STAN!
youre still VerStig..wtf
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 30, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
FUck
im 110 away from 6Gs, FML
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 30, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
you should stick with VerStig
as a tribute or something.
by Katherine215 on Jun 30, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
and VerStigiana Jones
just rolls off the tongue so much better than Toftboiana Jones.
you’ll have to explain your identity in your signature or something though.
You'll always be VerStig to me
Some say he he’s country stupid and holds the puck much better than Fergie holds her urine. All we know is, he’s called VerStig.
The sun never sets on a badass
by Trixietrx on Jul 1, 2010 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
If I may...
Promising young developing two-way forward > one way, playoff appearances only forward for about the same money.
Any better?
Everyone dies. It is the only true and lasting justice in life.
It stings more than Buff
Because Versteeg, while infuriating at times, seemed to give a crap for more games. Although I love Buff, he really played maybe 20 games at his highest level the whole time he was here. Steeger almost always tried, perhaps too hard at times.
"Erin go Braugh". What the fuck does that mean?
It's Irish for "you're fucked".
well
theres no grammys in the Blackhawks future
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Leafs’ Prospect Chris DiDomenico And The Value of Perseverance
"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."
Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010
holy shit
that is one tough kid. Reminds me of Keith with his perseverance and size criticisms. Small forwards with a scoring touch have done well here, I’m hoping for the best for this kid.
by Katherine215 on Jun 30, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
great link ballyb
and an even better story. Love having guys like this in the organization. They make everyone around them better too.
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 30, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
No wonder the guys at PPP hated to see him go
He may be a 6th rounder, but one heck of a 6th rounder at that. And we know what late-round late bloomers can do.
Too bad
Even though it had to be done it still blows, I just hope he doesn’t blow up next year with 35-50-85 and a number one album on the R&B hot 100!
II Can Finally Die Happy Now!
Here's the conflict I'm feeling right now
On the one hand, you have to feel like the capocalypse is now over and that we have (or will have) the core of Kane/Toews/Hossa/Sharp/Keith/Seabrook/Campbell/Hjalmarsson for the foreseeable future. As a fan who remembers the wilderness years, that’s very comforting to me.
On the other hand, it’s tough to see Verbeauty go, because I can now say with a pretty high degree of confidence that I will never, ever again love a hockey team as much as I loved this year’s crew. At least they went out winners.
we'll always have the 2010 Hawks
it’s now up to them to make us love the 2011 (and beyond) Hawks.
Really, it’s a win-win for you!
Don't get me wrong
I still plan on being the biggest hockey fan in the state next year and I’m still going to watch 80+ Hawks games, living and dying with each one. It’s just a strange, early nostalgic feeling to already have the sense that this will be “the team” for me.
Not to draw fire from the Chicago crowd, but I felt/feel the same way about the 2002 Cardinals… and they can’t say they went out winners.
by StillLostinNC on Jun 30, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I consider it an opportunity to spread the love.
I still love my Hawks, and I’m all prepared to love the new guys. But now I have fondness for the Leafs and the Thrashers that I didn’t before. And honestly, I think VerStud/VerStupid will have more chance to shine in Toronto. I think his talents got lost in among all of the high quality players on the HAwks roster.
this
and he’s out of conference, and going to a major city with a great hockey fanbase. i see this as the best possible outcome for something that was inevitable.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jun 30, 2010 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
This brings up a good point
Stan did very well to make sure that all the boys went to the East, therefore not allowing them to bite us in the ass multiple times during the year. I wish them nothing but the best, and I can’t wait to see the first Atlanta-Philly matchup to see how Buff handles Pronger in the regular season.
"Erin go Braugh". What the fuck does that mean?
It's Irish for "you're fucked".
Can you imagine if VerBeauty had ended up in Vancouver? Nashville? San Jose?
even though i don’t think SJ would have been likely. And where could he have gone that would hurt us less? Florida, or the islanders (b/c i really don’t expect them to do…well, anything). In toronto, he’ll be cherished (i hope), and he’ll like that. without biting us in the ass.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 1, 2010 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Steeg in SJ would be fantastic
He and Pavelski would cancel each other out and POOF there goes a couple of top scorers.
How Buff handles Pronger in the regular season
As much as I love Buff, I think it goes something like this:
Buff skates to the corner, and waits for the puck to come to him.
During his post-game interview Pronger says: “Byfuglien plays for Atlanta? I didn’t see him out there tonight. Are you sure? Does anyone want to ask about the gap in my teeth? You know that I took a bunch of pucks in the Stanley Cup Finals last year, right? Did you happen to see that picture of me in a tutu in the Chicago newspaper last year? That was a lot of fun posing for that. It got me in touch with my feminine side. This year, I am going to win the Lady Byng. What do you think of that, presshounds?”
Everyone dies. It is the only true and lasting justice in life.
defeatist
unregister now. If it’s all downhill from here in your mind please STFU and take your future talk of the “Glory Year” away.
Really. If moving Buff and Steeger means we can keep Hammer, Sharp and Niemi thats a win for the team.
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
by Johnny Lava on Jun 30, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Go fuck yourself
with your sanctimonious “better, purer fan” crap. I didn’t say it’s all downhill, I said I’m never going to love a team this much again. This was the right hockey move, it will make the team a better team, but I’m always going to have a special place in my memory for the team that ended the cup drought. That’s not defeatism, that’s reality.
by StillLostinNC on Jun 30, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
ok, here's what I took issue with
I’m never going to love a team this much again
How can you say that? You (or anyone else) have no idea what future teams will be like. You’re basically setting the high-water mark for the Hawks as last season. Try to be positive about the future
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
by Johnny Lava on Jun 30, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm real positive about the future
I think this group has multiple cups left in them. Hell, I’ve planned my interior decorating around having places to put new plaques and flags. But no one likes Mighty Ducks 2 as much as the first one, right? That’s all it is.
That and I was really hoping we were going to get the Kris Versteeg/Sarah Spain sex tape before he left.
by StillLostinNC on Jun 30, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
God I hope So!
That and I was really hoping we were going to get the Kris Versteeg/Sarah Spain sex tape before he left.
"Mr. Probert, Can you please step out of the car."
by chelischili7 on Jun 30, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry I didnt know how to copy that line
"Mr. Probert, Can you please step out of the car."
by chelischili7 on Jun 30, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
HE'S THE GOALIEEEEE!
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
the international
Aspect really adds to the overall story…and they fact he totally rips off Herb Brooks.
"Mr. Probert, Can you please step out of the car."
by chelischili7 on Jun 30, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Dude, the Iceland Players are the best
Best line in the movie: “Two minutes, well worth it”
"Erin go Braugh". What the fuck does that mean?
It's Irish for "you're fucked".
LoL... They stole that line from me.
I truly used to be “That guy” once upon a time.
Everyone dies. It is the only true and lasting justice in life.
Mighty Ducks 2?
Maybe if you brought up “Diehard” or “Ironman” I’d go along with what you’re saying. Hey, I’m going to miss that team, loved them, they did it all. But just as “A New Hope” was fantastic as the 1st maybe the Hawks will do their own version of “Empire Stikes Back”
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
by Johnny Lava on Jun 30, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Fingers crossed
If we can pull it off, I really like that idea. Then it makes sense to call the Wings SCUM and we already play the Empire’s music at the UC. And everybody knows that evil is fun! (sorry no link here, move along)
LMAO!
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
Fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Blackhawks!
by burpchelischili on Jul 1, 2010 6:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Just thought of another
Any of you guys seen Star Wars: Retold (by someone who hasn’t seen it)? Link. It’s pretty awesome.
That
is hilarious!
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
Fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Blackhawks!
by burpchelischili on Jul 1, 2010 6:49 AM CDT up reply actions
"Now you know that Evil will always triumph over Good
because Good is dumb."
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
and Empire is the shit
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 30, 2010 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
they have a better theme song
and that’s the name of the team i’m playing with for a beach ultimate frisbee tournement weekend after next. I have a jersey with a Darth Vader on the front twirling a frisbee.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jun 30, 2010 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
sorry
“The Empire” is not the team name…“The Empire Strikes Back” is.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jun 30, 2010 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
It'd be nice
And I want to stress, what I’m saying has absolutely nothing to do with hockey. I fully believe we might see a better Hawks team at some point in the near future. But if the front office is smart, it will be built around good hockey players, not personalities like Burrish, Versteeg and Buff. Plus, Kane is only going to get more mature. I really think that, while the future is bright, we hit our pinnacle of fun this year. I hope I’m proven wrong.
by StillLostinNC on Jun 30, 2010 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe the Hawks will do their own version of "Empire Stikes Back"
Or maybe I will finally put up my ESB fanpost tomorrow…
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jul 1, 2010 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah man
stop being so Kane and get that thing up already
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 1, 2010 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions
What do you get when you fall in love? You get enough germs to catch pneumonia...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzQBOBoPg04
I can set up a “play date” for you two at Chucky Cheese.
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 30, 2010 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly!
No way is it all down hill from here. Buff was great in the playoffs but did next to nothing in the regular season (17-17-34), and while Steeg is going to be a 20+ goal scorer for years to come we still have others that can do that (as was pointed out to me). Plus it frees up the cash needed for Hammmer and Niemi. The only thing I’m wondering about is what happens if Ladd wants more than we are willing to pay, and somebody else signs him? Sure we get compensated, but that big body will be gone along with Steeger.
II Can Finally Die Happy Now!
c'mon
the first time is the sweetest, or don’t you know that yet.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jun 30, 2010 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I had a whole thing to put here
but I Palominoed myself
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
by Johnny Lava on Jun 30, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wasn't there somebody here
Who was tooting the “season is over” horn when we replaced Huet with Niemi? Look how that turned out.
I think
it was when we lost Game 5 against Vancouver, because there was “no way we could win a third game in a row in Vancouver”
Once again, I fully expect and believe
that the front office can put together a better team that’s capable of repeating. And I’m going to follow them with all of the passion I have. But Bostonians are never going to revere the 2007 Sawks in the same way they revere the 2004 Sawks. That’s the only point I was trying to make.
by StillLostinNC on Jul 1, 2010 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions
that had the added bonus
of coming back from being down 3-0 to the hated Yankees. The only way that would be similar for the Hawks is if they were down 2 goals halfway thru the 3rd of game 4 in the WCF being down 3-0 in the series and coming back.
Therefore I think that was a bad analogy you threw out.
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
I can see matching
a reasonable offer. If some team goes crazy and offers $3.5 and up though I can convince myself to be hapy about all the picks coming back
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
by Johnny Lava on Jun 30, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
$3.5mm plus picks
would be insane… so maybe we need to cancel those plans to get other GMs drunk now?
speaking of which
I know someone asked about the compensation scale for this year and I found it earlier today.
In case anyone is curious, here ya go!
Translation might be
Stan is trying to dissuade anyone from making them an offer?
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jun 30, 2010 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah but if they want to, he can't stop them
Even if he hides the amount of the QO’s, I’m pretty sure the players’ agents can tell the teams how much they are…
Everybody and their mother on SCH
is planning to be getting one, it seems…
Do the ’Hawks get any of the money from jersey sales? If so, I hope McDonough reads SCH
Im getting Hossa
I owe myself that, Ill look for all you Hjalmerheads at the meetups
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 30, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Im with you
Hossa jersey I have coming in the mail w/ the SCF Patch. Real too for only 80
2009-2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Chicago Blackhawks
sales strategy
I’m glad I worried about this happening long enough ago and got myself a bolland jersey last christmas
Hjallelujah!!!!
It’s almost time to go jersey shopping!!!!
by Hjammered on Jun 30, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bought a Leafs Sweater 5 years ago when I was in Canada..
Dare I say I get it customized….to honor Steeger…Or keep it in the back of my closet next to my Rashaan Salaam jersey.
"Mr. Probert, Can you please step out of the car."
next to my Rashaan Salaam jersey.
ouch.
Tremendously tremendous!
Luongo's tears feed my soul.
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Jun 30, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
You make mistakes
when you are 12.
"Mr. Probert, Can you please step out of the car."
by chelischili7 on Jun 30, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't know that Mccaskey was 12 that year
"Erin go Braugh". What the fuck does that mean?
It's Irish for "you're fucked".
could be worse
he could have a Curtis Enis jersey…
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Rashaan Salaam Jersey
strikes me as an awesome band name. But for some reason I don’t want to go see them.
by StillLostinNC on Jun 30, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
damn
Thats a great idea….I would imagine them being a jam band.
"Mr. Probert, Can you please step out of the car."
by chelischili7 on Jun 30, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
They can open for the Rastafarian Band:
“Ricky Williams & The Pineapple Express”
Everyone dies. It is the only true and lasting justice in life.
Nah,
I say they should open for The Mummys. Great band, and evil is Funny as hell!
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
Fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Blackhawks!
by burpchelischili on Jul 1, 2010 6:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Now tha Steeg is gone.....
I have no choice but to let the booze kill me!
II Can Finally Die Happy Now!
To: Stan Fucking Bowman
Solving capopylapse by unloading Buff and Steeg earns you zero genius points.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
elaborate
please
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
by Johnny Lava on Jun 30, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
i could have pulled this off
while holding down my day job.
All that sly talk from Stan- I thought he might do something remarkable.
He didn’t.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jun 30, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll say that looks pretty good
but time will tell.
This one don’t look so great. Again, time will tell.
Plenty of GMs could have engineered something like what Stan did in the past week. Ergo, zero genius points.
All told, nothing in the same league as the deals that brought Sharp and Versteeg to Chicago.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jun 30, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
If anything you could technically say the Cam Barker trade was worse
In essence, we traded an established (though regressing/stagnant) d-man for Nick Leddy.
aw, but it's not Stan's fault
Johnsson up and died. He would’ve helped us.
by Katherine215 on Jun 30, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
true fact
can’t know someone is going to up and die. Just ask Jerry Angelo
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
by Johnny Lava on Jun 30, 2010 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
too soon?
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
by Johnny Lava on Jun 30, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
no, it was funny
in a “I should find that inappropriate, so I’m laughing quietly to myself” kind of way.
by Katherine215 on Jun 30, 2010 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
So what you're saying is
Johnsson is going to net us the Julius Peppers of hockey in free agency?
You know why they call you LU? Because you're retarded. And you're ugly. You're an ugly retard. And they call you LU because you're ugly and retarded.
And you'll always be LU... LU, LU, LU. And that's what I'm gonna call you for the rest of your life, is LU, LU, LU, LU, LU, okay? So fuck you.
by TrialsBass on Jun 30, 2010 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not sure how to take that
aging talent that’s good in one system but may be a bust due to a lack of quality teammates… nah doesn’t fit.
Exceptional talent that revitalizes career whle propelling team to Ultimate Victory? I’ll take that but what FA D-man compares?
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
by Johnny Lava on Jun 30, 2010 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions
meh
It’s not like we have the room to sign a top quality D-man anyway, even with VerBeauty gone.
You know why they call you LU? Because you're retarded. And you're ugly. You're an ugly retard. And they call you LU because you're ugly and retarded.
And you'll always be LU... LU, LU, LU. And that's what I'm gonna call you for the rest of your life, is LU, LU, LU, LU, LU, okay? So fuck you.
Jerry Angelo traded for Gaines Adams
and then Gaines Adams died. Literally.
by Katherine215 on Jul 1, 2010 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Its a natural process.
(Which for the record, I found pretty funny, as tasteless jokes go.)
Everyone dies. It is the only true and lasting justice in life.
I suspect foul play
a 26-year old athlete having a heart attack? It’s not unheard of, but it’s not common at all either.
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
well...
…Johnsson AND Nick Leddy.
The Hawks were pissed Johnsson didn’t even ATTEMPT to rehab so they told him to piss off (actually have a source too.wow) who saw THAT coming. Johnsson was only for the stretch anyway. so, yeh, maybe you could say Leddy=Barker
but Leddy WILL be something.
he wasn’t 3rd overall (and really, barks shouldn’t have been) but 16th overall, he’s got way above average skating, isn’t big, but plays big, physical and moves the puck .
None of that resembles Barks.
Why, yes. I WILL have another Ham Sandwich.
by NesterenkosGhost on Jul 1, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
But Stan's bar wasn't that high
I wasn’t hoping for max genius points (like DT deserves for above.)
The moves over the past week required zero special talent.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jun 30, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
My experience with GMs is
If he doesn’t get fleeced, it’s good. Far too many times I’ve seen awful moves (many by Chicago GMs).
You still haven’t provided an alternative…
Perhaps my expectations were unrealistic
but your experience with bad GMing causes you to set the bar too low (if your GM is always getting fleeced, doesnt it occur to you that there is someone on the other side of the deal?)
If a goofball on a website could easily spell out the alternative, wtf do we pay a GM for?
If my full-time job was dicking around on CapGeek, I reckon I coulda figured something out. I refuse to believe this was inevitable.
My main point is: if anyone is thinking: “Thank God for Stan Bowman. I don’t know how he pulled this off.” then, well, I don’t think "thinking is the right verb here.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jun 30, 2010 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
All I'm saying is
It’s too early to start criticizing a GM for making two very average deals. Sometimes those are the ones that have to get done.
Every deal can’t be a blockbuster. You can’t “win” every single deal by a large margin. I think the consensus is that both of these benefits both teams. How can you complain about that?
Do you suppose it looked like an average deal when we got Sharp?
I know nobody flipped when we got Ladd
"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."
Actually, as I understood it, that deal was similar
I think the Flyers had to dump salary then, too. From what I read a few weeks ago it seemed like Philly fans didn’t like the move but understood it had to be made.
I know it’s easy to say now, but I can honestly say that I was happier than a pig in shit when the Hawks traded for Sharp in 2005, having just watched him the summer previous play for the Phantoms against the Wolves in the Calder Cup finals, which is where the man-crush began.
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i'm guessing both
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 1, 2010 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Play, amplified by looks
He was a force in that series.
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Agreed. Totally wanted Sharp in Chicago that series
He was amazing in that Calder Cup. And I always said it was a matter of time before he lights the lamp all the time with all the hustling he does. That December 2005 is when this franchise started its turnaround.
LUigi was found dead at the scene, murdered by a Chelsea Dagger.
And what would have been a "genius" move?
You seem to be saying a lot without providing an alternative.
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by Preacher000 on Jun 30, 2010 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions
thats called
a miracle
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 1, 2010 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions
pipe dream?
as in “I’ll have a hit of what’s in your pipe”
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sahn looEE
gotta france the shit outta that pronunciation
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 1, 2010 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions
That would cause too much drama
in the locker room. Seabs seems like the jealous type
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well, I think there's some merit to his not getting fleeced
they may be boring, predictable deals, but considering everyone knew our situation, shouldn’t he get some credit that he’s even been able to negotiate a deal that aren’t completely one-sided against us?
I'll agree to that
I heard he was dangling VerStud out there before the draft and no one bit. They all had to know the situation, and I think any deals he makes now are what will really be important.
Besides, I like the guys we traded and hope that they can excell at their new homes, which won’t hurt us at all.
The sun never sets on a badass
Well, the Canucks apparently wanted him
but I don’t think I’d have preferred 25th overall AND the chance to see Versteeg 4 games a year plus probably the playoffs.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 1, 2010 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Ther've been quite a few times when a Chicago GM has fleeced the other side
most recent example: Jim Hendry dumping gameboard and getting Silva. Same contracts, but Silva is 8-2 or 8-3 with a sub-3.00 ERA while Gameboard…well, he’s flicking off Seattle fans now.
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Not necessarily
considering that every GM out there knew that the Hawks had to get rid of some players. The special talent was NOT getting fleeced. It appears that Stan was successful in not getting fleeced while also succeeding in making sure that the players we traded will not come back to repeatedly bite us in the ass.
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Genius points would have been
if he moved Huet with Versteeg, which is what I was really hoping for.
also, you don't know if it's as good or not.
Sharp scored somewhere around 10 goals his whole time in Philly (or close to 10. I know it wasn’t near the amount he’s scoring here) My point is who knows? These could be absolute killer trades, or they could be busts, time will tell.
"Erin go Braugh". What the fuck does that mean?
It's Irish for "you're fucked".
you're still grieving
i believe this is evidence of your being in the “anger” phase.
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by puppetmasterp on Jun 30, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
"zero genius points"
Let’s see, he cleared the salary cap issue by trading two players that could NOT consistently play in the top six for this team. Furthermore, he traded players that were the least compatible with Kane and Hossa.
Also doesn’t Stalberg and Skille with Bolland become a pretty fast checking line?
And that lets Ladd move up with Toews? Even with Kane, you aren’t afraid to match them against the other teams top lines. And if Hossa plays with Toews and Ladd you now have a really dangerous two way top line.
Yeah, I don't see that many better alternatives
He could’ve held out for a better deal but I don’t think it would’ve been forthcoming. It’s easy to criticize, but unless you have a less scary scenario I find it hard to digest (my love for Steeger aside).
I guess the entire dilemma is
that the Hawks were fucked and we knew we were going to have to deal with losses. I just hate to lose such good young talent.
I did prefer to see Ladd go too
I feel like people have switched to overvaluing him now (not that he isn’t good — he is, and young too) and team balance/size issues aside, I thought Steeger’s talent was harder to replace.
But I think the numbers panned out this way and some of Kris’s attitude won’t be fixable (the highlight-reel-seeking part). So, I can live with this.
my thoughts were this
Steeger is a potential top 6 (really wouldn’t it be 4 cause he plays wing? I digress) while Ladd is perfect for the 3rd “shut down line.” To me it was more about filling roles
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by Johnny Lava on Jun 30, 2010 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm down with that
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by Johnny Lava on Jun 30, 2010 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I have to admit
I really liked the Toews and the Slovaks line that dominated for lengthy period of Games 5 and 6 of the SCF.
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agree
somethin about Toews and Hossa out there together.
I like Sharp/Kane too.
Break up DDN!
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
apparently that might happen as well...
my twitter feed is blowing up about people wanting Ladd/him being in play.
Mirtle tweeted saying how a lot of teams are trying for Ladder as well.
Maybe I projected the wants of the blogosphere
to the wants of the teams… I should stop reading all that stuff.
After seeing
what Ladd did in the SCF with a broken shoulder and partially torn ligaments in that same shoulder. I want someone like that on my team. I think we have the pieces to make up for VerBeauty’s loss.
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Dale,
Don’t forget Brouwer. He was well on his way to developing a great rapport w/ Kane n Toews before personal issues negatively derailed him. I think Ladd serves as an insurance in case Brouwer regresses.
Glad you mentioned Brouwer
cuz when he’s not with DDN, he’s been dick-all, unlike at least one former Hawk I can think of.
As far as being a 3rd liner, it’s no coincidence that the two SCF finals teams this year probably had the best 3rd lines going.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jun 30, 2010 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions
And don't forget, he got all our trades out of the conference too.
Except for Frazz but he’s not exactly scary to face with Edmonton.
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by Preacher000 on Jun 30, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
this is the one silver lining I can think of here
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jun 30, 2010 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
he has potential to be that
for that team
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 30, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
but you can't have a core
of 20 guys. It’s maybe 8 or so players, and we’re already at that point imo.
by Katherine215 on Jun 30, 2010 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Wow
Katherine, you are burning up the boards with the true statements tonight! Every time I’m just about to type something you say it first. :)
Actually,
I have Stan Bowman on the phone and he’s feeding me all this stuff. :)
by Katherine215 on Jun 30, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
8 or so
Toews
Kane
Keith
Hossa
Seabrook
Sharp
Bolland
?
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jun 30, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Jelly
and Soupy
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 30, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Jelly yes
I think Soupy by default because of his contract.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
that and he is a great transition D man
and was obviously an impact player for us
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by BigCSouthside on Jun 30, 2010 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe
but these are very close calls, IMO.
If “8 or so” means 9, no way I put both of our second pair ahead of Versteeg.
I understand Soup’s here for the next couple years, but that don’t make him “core”.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jun 30, 2010 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm gonna go with like it not
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jun 30, 2010 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions
ugh, it's not even his contract
we NEED what he does.
by Katherine215 on Jun 30, 2010 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Right,
I know. But its easier to say contract. Harder to make people understand his value on the ice.
so how many are in our core and who are they?
I presume there is general agreement on the 7 names listed above.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
Well, I personally would say
the names you listed plus Meatball Soup because I think our top 4 D are critical to our success. Stan and everyone else might say something else though.
IMO
Versteeg was a guy they had to find a way to keep due to potential, existing talent, and team chemistry.
Sharp
they had to keep due to versatilty, skill, track record and leadership
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by Johnny Lava on Jun 30, 2010 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
You don’t need potential when you have two of the best young forwards and two of the best young d-men in the game. Not to mention, two of the best two-way players in Sharp and Hossa.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jun 30, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't see how you can have too much scoring
the Hawks had zero extended offensive droughts this past season. next year will be different.
also, by this logic, nintendo’s equally expendable.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jun 30, 2010 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
It seems like there is a basic misunderstanding in this debate
Would it be great to keep Versteeg? Yes
Can the Hawks realistically keep him? No
Therefore, what had to be done was done. Of course, keeping him would be ideal but someone making $3 mill+ on his second contract cannot be kept for a team with cap headaches like the Hawks.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jul 1, 2010 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions
this has actually been cathartic for me
my head has been in the know for probably the past day or two, but my heart is still catching up.
I just wish Bowman hadn’t hinted that somehow the Hawks were done dealing after Buff (don’t have the exact quote, but the gist, I recall, was pretty tantalizing.)
Apparently, as I’ve been told, Stan was playing some deep, strategic game, the fruit of which is…umm… I forget.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
why do you say this?
I don’t think that’s so far-fetched.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jun 30, 2010 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions
definitive statements are impressive
but no more true for that.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jun 30, 2010 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, if he were a real genius
he would have found a way to sign $80 million worth of players while avoiding the detection of NHL authorities. In fact, he has! Just watch, next year Versteeg is going to be out on the ice wearing a Bickell jersey. Unfortunately, the jig will be up when Stan tries to send out big Buff in a Hendry sweater.
by StillLostinNC on Jun 30, 2010 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
On a player level basis
I considered Sharp, Steeger, and Ladd about the same value for their money, in terms of how well I could live with them leaving. Sharp would’ve been a little higher if he was the same age as the others.
But helping us keep Hjammer is huge. (hjuge?)
Maybe not enough space freed up?
If he accepts his QO (as opposed to matching something higher or going to arbitration), we’ll be in very good shape.
Nah
I’m much happier keeping Ladd and losing Versteeg. With one we got brilliant moments of VerStud! and many offsetting moments of VerStupid! Ladd is rock solid and always plays his part. It’s not always flashy, but he gets the job done.
by rsncrntz on Jun 30, 2010 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ladd frees up zero cap space
try again
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by El Duque's Raft on Jun 30, 2010 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
ding. ding. ding.
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by Johnny Lava on Jun 30, 2010 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Verstig was expendable as we already have many skill players
who could dance and score. Ladd fulfills a deficiency of size that we had even when we had Buff. Compared to Philly, San Jose, Vancouver we were a smaller team. Getting rid of Ladd would’ve really handcuffed us. Beach is still an unproven kid.
Unless we could keep Steeger long term
I don’t see how we could’ve kept him. I would’ve loved to have been able to develop him, but we didn’t have room, and as he got better (if he did, which I think he will), he would’ve become more and more expensive.
He would’ve been real helpful about five years from now. But hey, who knows. Anything can happen by then.
I think it's more his
“Look, a highlight reel move!” self that will come when the Hawks come to town.
by Katherine215 on Jun 30, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I know that
when the Thrashers and Maple Leafs come to the UC for the first time, I will be very upset if there is not a lot of cheering for the fallen of the capocalypse
If I'm there,
you better believe I"m cheering for them. Always. Hell, I still cheer for Marty.
by Katherine215 on Jun 30, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm on record as pro-Versteeg
but I don’t get cheering for guys in the wrong sweater.
booing ’em, of course, is truly stupid.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jun 30, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I know the name on the front
is supposed to be more important than the one on the back, and I generally agree with that. But I get attached to the players. And these guys (except Marty) brought the Cup to Chicago. They deserve recognition for that, imo.
by Katherine215 on Jun 30, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
my thoughts exactly.
he helped make some of this year’s guys (especially Kane) into who they are now which helped them win the Cup.
by Katherine215 on Jun 30, 2010 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
i have zero issues
with wanting to see good guys and good players do well. as long as they don’t beat my team head to head.
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by puppetmasterp on Jun 30, 2010 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions