Report: Andrew Ladd Traded To Atlanta
by Killion on Jul 1, 2010 3:56 PM CDT
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PrintI guess the Thrashers aren't quite done picking up some pieces from the Hawks. There is nothing official yet but there are all kinds of rumors flying around that the Blackhawks have traded Andrew Ladd to the Thrashers. I believe Darren Dreger broke the news and is now saying Ladd will be shipped out for a "pick and a prospect".
This is the first of the moves that hurts. Buff, Eager and Sopel were all pretty expendable and generally overpaid... we knew those moves were coming and we were ready. The VERSTEEG! trade also made sense - due to last year's bumbling at the deadline he was overpaid and didn't have a great spot on this team.
With Ladd being a restricted free agent though, there was hopes he could be re-signed. There were also rumors though that teams were offering him $3 Million a year which is quite a boost from the $1.6 he was paid last year. If the Hawks were worried they couldn't sign him then getting a pick and a prospect might make more sense than simply the pick they'd receive on compensation. This may be the first time we've seen the Hawks make a pure strategic move, not simply a salary dump (though they've been good at not just dumping money, they're getting a lot of good picks and prospects in return so far). A lot more on this as we get some more time.
Word is that the prospect is Ivan Vishnevskiy.. the pick is a second rounder.
UPDATE: A reaction from The Falconer of Bird Watchers Anonymous on Twitter: "Much happier with Ladd deal than earlier CHI trade. I think Vish will be a NHL bust or bottom pairing D, smart to leverage him."
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
I can’t stop hitting the button. This one stings a little.
2010 Stanley Cup Champions. Booyah.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
My new FanPost is dated already (but was correct). Fuck, why am I NEVER wrong?!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jul 1, 2010 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 1, 2010 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
wait, what did you change?
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 1, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Well I said that I thought one more player had to go
between Ladd, Niemi and Hjammer. That was the reason for the post and the title. Now Ladd’s gone.
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jul 1, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
"Jake Dowell has a really good chance to be on our team next year,"
With only a $500,000 salary. I’d say he has an excellent chance.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
The Cap is so tight
right now I don’t think there’s too much room for Million plus dollar players.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
maybe Modano would agree to play with the Hawks
for a big big discount.
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
or wait...
am I behind the times and he already signed?
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think he signed
I guess detroit and St. Louis have showm interest.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Bad
The Core needs to live up to the hype next season. Thank God we won a Stanley Cup because they will need to draw on that experience next season.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
what the fuck happened to the consensus that we had cut enough pay?
god fucking dammit.
CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS-2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!
The consensus sucks.
-Matt Cooke is a turd burglar. He burgles ALL the turds.-
-At least he's not Cam Janssen. What a bag of dicks that guy is.-
by G8K33P3R on Jul 1, 2010 4:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Hawks need to move more salary to avoid losing Niemi to an offer sheet. Now they can afford to match an offer.
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ha ha ha ha!!
Oh that was a good one! Thanks for the laugh!
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
Why would anyone want Kovalchuk?
I still don’t understand.
by Ban on Jul 1, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm on your side with this
He’s a good sniper, but isn’t Hossa a good sniper who also brings size and good defensive awareness?
and is a nicer teammate to get along with
my impression of Kovy has always been: great player, semi-toxic teammate in the locker room.
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by puppetmasterp on Jul 1, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
my only thought on this is he's been rumored to
want to play with hossa…
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
As bad as this stings
can we focus on the positives? Isn’t Vishnevskiy one of their better prospects?
I'm not sure how much of a recommendation #2 in Atlanta is,
but at least he’s not #15 or something. Silver linings everywhere.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, Bowman seems high on him.
From NHLBlackhawks Twitter: “He has a chance to play with us in Chicago this year. He can move the puck, and skating is a big necessity.”
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, I remember hearing a lot about him
in the few Wolves games I watch
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Wouldn't put too much stock in that..
They’re going to say that about just about every prospect they pick up.
Second City Hockey
June 9, 2010
huh
“skating is a big necessity”
loves me some hockey acumen.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jul 1, 2010 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
THIS was the one that hurt
I was prepared for Versteeg to go, but Ladd was the one I had hopes of us keeping (even though i was one who said early on that i though both Ladd and Steeger would go).
damnit.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
Next thing you know we will hear Sharp has been jettisoned to the Red Wings
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
yes, some things are better left unsaid
even joking about them is improper
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
This one I don't quite get.
And I absolutely hate it, but I’m sure Stan isn’t concerned about that.
What do we get if Ladd goes elsewhere on an offer sheet? Wouldn’t we have gotten virtually the same thing in compensation, but with a higher pick? This sounds like a strange exchange. I hope (HOPE!) that Stan has something better lined up then. Now we’re simply taking away from the team without much cap room gained. Unless something else is in the works, a large chunk of our bench will be AHLers.
Sounds like we need another “back away from the ledge” pep talk from Sam.
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I think the prospect is the difference
If we let him go on an offer sheet, then we would have just gotten the pick. If Bowman knew someone was going to over pay him (and I think 3 mil for Ladd is over paying in the salary cap era) and he could get a prospect he liked AND a pick comparable to the one he would get form the offer sheet, why not? I hate losing Ladd as well, but if we were going to, might as well get as much as we could.
Man, that fax malfunction last season is really hurting us this off season …
by kcr on Jul 1, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Not if that prospect is Spencer Mahachek
I mean I like the guy and he is a hell of a player but there is a reason he was not playing in Atlanta, right? Ladd=gone=sad. Who’s next?
LUigi was found dead at the scene, murdered by a Chelsea Dagger.
What happened to "Not needing to make anymore moves"?
Dammit all to hell. I agree that stocking up picks and prospects is a good idea, but prospects that get shipped twice in a year, Vishnevskiy and Paradis/DiDomenico (can’t remember which) is not a good sign in my book.
So now we’re relying on Stalberg and fucking Marty Reasoner to be our depth? The Hawks depth was the fucking key last season. Fucking Stan better not be flexing his GM muscle to show the team is his.
The Versteeg trade and Ladd trade don’t look or smell like the original Versteeg or Sharp trades where it was a clear win. Our fucking window to keep winning is still now and we’re worried about 3-5 years from now?
I don’t get it and I don’t agree…..right now.
by herecomethehawks77 on Jul 1, 2010 4:12 PM CDT reply actions
If someone and offers Ladd $3MM what's Stan to do?
As most out there are theorizing, Atlanta probably offered Ladd a contract Stan couldn’t afford… so move him and get your pick and prospect.
by Stan Mikita's Donuts on Jul 1, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Holy Shit!
I played this same exact scenario out last night while I was venting about the Steeg trade. just as I was told that Steeg was the better move, I thought what if someone wants to pay Ladd more than we are willing and we wind up losing both. All I have to say is that the boys in Rockford better be ready to play!
II Can Finally Die Happy Now!
Also
Bochenski had been around a fair few teams before he got traded to Boston for Versteeg. Not saying Bowman has anything like this up his sleeve, just making the point that even if prospects have been passed around a bit, they can still a) turn into good players, or b) be traded for good players.
Not the end of the world, not by a long shot.
yep, that's got to be it
Bowman is making trades as a dick measuring tactic, you know, show the stanley cup winning team who’s boss.
C’mon man.
Ditto for CNS
Philly was dumping salary
They had to lose Sharp.
We’re dumping salary now. This is what happens when you dump salary.
silver lining
i’ve heard good things about Stalberg, so i’m willing to give him a shot
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by puppetmasterp on Jul 1, 2010 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
seems like it
apparently he also has some serious wheels and decent hands. And as a bonus, as someone already mentioned, he’s not too hard on the eyes.
Also, we must not forget that when the Hawks got Sharpie from Philadelphia, he couldn’t even crack the flyers’ lineup and now he is a top 6 forward on a Stanley Cup championship team.
by hawkswin!hawkswin! on Jul 1, 2010 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
serious wheels yes
decent hands NO — they keep telling us he has stone hands and can’t finish; I hope we can fix that
Stone hands compared to???
Kovalev or Hal Gill?
If he’s as good, or better, with the puck than Buff or Skille – all will be well.
i guess we'll have to wait and see
but he did have 9 goals in 40 games and was a finalist for the Hobey Baker award. Small sample size, sure (especially for a stats guy like yourself), but I think there might be something there.
by hawkswin!hawkswin! on Jul 1, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
oops, my first reply fail (sort of)
I meant to reply to VerStig’s post
by hawkswin!hawkswin! on Jul 1, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
must get a grip
we’re building depth for the future. we’ll hurt in the next few years, but at least we’re not talking about losing Toewes or the Norris trophy winner. As bad as things are, our core is very spectaculicious.
we have any forwards left
with those 3 forwards gone we have lost alot of points … who is going to pick up the slack/ is burish one of our top forwards now…. fuck me
I'll miss you Burwood...
“[Patrick] Sharp and [Patrick] Kane. I’m going right after them,” he said.
Jokster extrordinaire.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
by Campbell32 on Jul 1, 2010 9:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
UGH...
Today, I am NOT a happy human either.
I only have like five days left in Afghanistan, but TODAY, I am depressed about the Hawks.
I should be REALLY excited to be getting ready to get out of this hellhole very soon, but Ladd was traded, and my man-crush now wears black and green, instead of black and red. I was fairly confident that Burish would be kept, because he wasn’t going to be expensive to keep (Barely over 1 million per year for Dallas to get him) and he really brought so much energy, grit, and heart to the team. What’s a Sharpie to do, without his Burish, on the road? Who to pull pranks with? Who will his new roomie be? It changes soo much, in so many little ways.
I really hoped that we’d keep Burish.
At least now I have an actual reason to wear my Stars jersey (besides the fact that I do own it).
Everyone dies. It is the only true and lasting justice in life.
On the bright side ...
CRAZY IVAN!
Gonna be fun watching the you tube of those Hunt for Red October scenes.
What Trixie said: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I am not a happy human all of a sudden.
LUigi was found dead at the scene, murdered by a Chelsea Dagger.
Ladd
loss does hurt. Now you have a problem – you no longer have three lines – you have two and only one forward who can go to the net for abuse. Unless someone develops real quick, or there is someone else waiting to come in, you don’t have a team that can get to the Cup finals right now.
I'm Lloyd Pettit's love child!
uh
Brouwer, Kopecky, Stalberg have the size to cram the net — not optimal use of their skill sets but we can still do it. Beach when he’s ready too, of course. I probably left some people out.
and perhaps Beach
strangely, we might still have size next year despite losing what’s his name and what’s his name.
Not necessarily.
We need to confirm the trade – then we can panic. I am not blaming the Hawks, if there was a sheet going to be signed, you have to do something. Just saying, if Ladd is gone you don’t have a power forward except Brouwer. Kopecky isn’t. Kids are just that. Kids. We saw what happened to the scum relying on kids.
I'm Lloyd Pettit's love child!
I guess...
Hopefully there will be a signing or something. I’m not to worried, but I guess that won’t comfort anyone. :)
Absolutely
there has to be another move. Right now you don’t have a third line.
I'm Lloyd Pettit's love child!
Also Brouwer fucking sucked in the playoffs so Im really not even sure we can count on that.
/// Cocks gun and inserts in mouth.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
Yes I do know that. Does this change the fact that he sort of sucked the entire playoffs?
Im aware that has an effect. But his play dropped off even before his dad got sick.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
No, it really didn't
I think he had a good game Sunday night, and Monday morning was gone for personal reasons.
He got better as the playoffs went on and his dad got better.
My memory could be hazy here…..but wasn’t he bumped to the 4th line a month or so before his dad got sick?
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
I can't say for sure,
but I thought Fraser/Eager/Kop were rocking the 4th line leading up to the playoffs and that’s how Fras started in the playoffs.
That's what I thought too
Unless Brouwer came back before the playoffs, he didn’t start on the 4th line until then.
I thought he had been playing on the top or second line...
then when he came back he had been dropped to the 4th line and we were all, wait, what?
Well clearly we cant remember! In any case we can all agree we are rooting for him next year because we are going to need him in the worst way.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
His dad
Had brain surgery. As far as I know, that’s not something that happens the day they find it on a scan.
His dad was probably sick for a while, and when Brouwer took off was as his dad was having surgery.
by doubleohpsycho on Jul 1, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
it all depends
but chances are, they probably found the problem and went straight into surgery within a few days/ a week?
He had a brain aneurysm
Trust me, it’s pretty scary shit. He’s lucky his dad made it.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
actually I remember reading an article that said his mom came home to find his dad on the floor
which is how they discovered it. and he had been lying there alone for a while, so imagine coming home, your wife tells you to call home, and hearing the news that they found your dad collapsed on the floor and now he’s in the hospital with a coma & undergoing surgery for an aneurysm.
really, is it a surprise that his play dropped off? if that happened to me, I’d probably be useless as well.
yeah, that 20 goal year
sucked. I’m sure it was just a fluke anyways
/// offers to pull trigger
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
if anyone ever needed some good, strong weed......
this would be it.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 1, 2010 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions
To be fair
his Dad was on death’s door, and after his Dad got better he was better. Not on the same form as before, but presumably he’ll be back to normal by next year.
I get the feeling that if we give him a summer, he’ll be fine and back to bashing heads to clear space for DDN.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, for a time
but he got better as it got farther away. I like his game.
I'm Lloyd Pettit's love child!
What he needs to do is hit the gym and watch tape of Buff against Vancouver in the playoffs each of the last two seasons. The fans and likely our coaches will ask him to fill the role Buff had.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
Buff needs to put in a tape of Brouwer from the regular season
Troy Brouwer is going to be fine and if you keep him with the right linemates, he’ll be a better all around player than Buff.
Troy Brouwer was a more consistent net presence than Buff all year, it changed in the spring with TBrow’s dad being sick and Buff deciding he’d like to be a force. Give me Troy Brouwer over Buff all day.
Ditto for CNS
People seem to forget
Earlier in the season we were trumpeting Brouwer’s emergence as a more valuable power forward than Ladd…
"you don’t have a team that can get to the Cup finals right now."
That’s the sentiment of lots of folks around the sports blog world right now. It’s probably more wishful thinking than astute analysis.
Sam? Where are you Sam? Talk us down Sam…
The Chicago Blackhawks -- 2010 Stanley Cup Champions!!!!!!
"I can't stop crying and laughing." Preacher
They were saying that after Versteeg and Buff,
but now there is some creedance to the assertion. Who replaces Ladd? No one currently on the roster does. Praying on kids.
I'm Lloyd Pettit's love child!
Skille maybe, Beach I'm thinking no
at least not to start the season. He doesn’t even come up in Stan’s conversations, Bickell and Dowell do.
Some sportscaster was saying on the radio today
that he thinks Beach is going to be traded – and the reason he’s upset: Hawks need a goon.
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jul 1, 2010 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe the 'sportscaster' you mention was Rozner
He’s an idiot, so I would not put much credence in anything that asshammer spews.
"Youuuu Suck, Mayyyyers!!"
by Tiocfaidh ar La on Jul 1, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
We get Hossa for 20 more games next season than we had him this year. So our scoring should rise, if we can get some semi-decent kids into those roleplayers spots on the lower lines.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah but who does?
WHO in the league is a team that anyone is going to tout as a favorite to make the cup finals? no one comes to mind immediately for me. the league will be open for teams to step up next year, and we still have a ton of scorers. I’m sad, but worried is a whole other thing.
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by puppetmasterp on Jul 1, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
i hear the montreal maroons havent won in a while.
CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS-2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!
by elpjuly4 on Jul 1, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Vancouver Millionaires haven’t won since before the Cubs!
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
Wow, I'd never even heard of them
and I thought I was fairly up on hockey history. Cheers for the history lesson!
Hudler is coming back next season….Lame.
Time to retire for the evening and drink a ton of beers.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
lets pause for a moment
as we take in the insanity of this here wikipedia article. the millionaires averaged almost 9 goals! and their name was the fucking millionaires! i love hockey.
CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS-2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!
i mean...
Frank Patrick (owner/president/manager/coach/defense)
CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS-2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!
redefining multitasking there
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by puppetmasterp on Jul 1, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Pens are impressing me with their moves right now
though they still need a winger or something.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 1, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
So Hawks have got a shit-ton
of picks and prospects now. And more cap room. So after prospect camp when Q and the Gang have had a good look at them and decide what they like and who they don’t…
Stan can look around the league and identify some slightly over-paid players that can fit the needs of the team for this year and now has the assetts to pull of a trade. All while filling in a couple or three prospects on 4th line, 3rd pair and bench.
As Dustin Hoffman said in Wag the Dog “This is nothing!”
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
CraigCustance: I’m really curious to see how the Atlanta Thrashers will handle their Stanley Cup hangover.
by NesterenkosGhost on Jul 1, 2010 4:26 PM CDT reply actions
ladd threatened arbitration
and put stan in a corner…but you cant pay a 3rd line winger more than 2.5mm
No argument there,
if Ladd wanted to cash in, you have to play it this way. Nothing wrong with a player chasing the $$. You only play so long. We took advantage of others in the past – our turn in the spot light. The price of winning.
I'm Lloyd Pettit's love child!
Some of these guys will be wishing they could have taken a pay cut when Atlanta is having their annual fire sale in March. Ill miss Ladder.
-Matt Cooke is a turd burglar. He burgles ALL the turds.-
-At least he's not Cam Janssen. What a bag of dicks that guy is.-
by G8K33P3R on Jul 1, 2010 4:34 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Best 16 since Joe Murphy
Kidding!
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
Joe Murphy was the shit when playing with amonte and roenick. I loved that line. He was 17 though, wasn’t he?
-Matt Cooke is a turd burglar. He burgles ALL the turds.-
-At least he's not Cam Janssen. What a bag of dicks that guy is.-
by G8K33P3R on Jul 1, 2010 4:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Murphy was 17
Goulet was 16
"It's the Chicago Blackhawks, man." - Jeremy Roenick
by The Fearless Freep on Jul 2, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe
we get some of them back at the deadline (and maybe for less than we sold them).
fuck this this is no longer fun
i feel like its mid march again.
if we lose bolland im becoming a full time thrashers fan
/still waiting to see anyone other than me wearing a bolland jersey
CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS-2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!
I have been waiting to buy one
until the capocalypse is over
Come on..
The Hawks won the cup less than a month ago – just try to remember that if you’re not having fun anymore.
Also… Sam wears a Bolland jersey
Second City Hockey
June 9, 2010
I'll send you a photo
Likewise, I’ve been waiting for someone else too
II Can Finally Die Happy Now!
i have a black one
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 1, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Ladddddddddddyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!
Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit.
Me no likey this one.
MA! THE MEATLOAF!
Red Wings Fans.
Im already getting text from my Red Wings friends saying the Blackhawks run is over and done….
I have to keep repeating that we have our Core in place but I feel like a broken fucking record.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
please read my post above and feel reassured.
Red Wings fans have been beating that drum ever since Toews lifted The Cup. Fuck them, they are desperate to piss on our success.
Again. Relax, you’re being very undude.
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
It would be nice to have something other than the Core to shove in their face…..and one of them pointed out they still had their core too after winning then Stanley Cup…..not promising.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
They were still pretty solid contenders this year
after they healed from their injuries… not to mention we have a brighter longer term outlook than they did.
but they have NO Offense
yes they have Zetterberg, Datsyuk, and (ugh) Bertuzzi. But where else is their offense coming from? Helm? Yes hes fucking fast but im tired of hearing that and being told that becase he’s fast he’ll score loits of goals, because he hasn’t.
its a fact that i watch a lot of red wings hockey because my younger brother is a huge red wings fan and my family is from Michigan originally plus my dad has a soft spot for Datsuyk, Franzen and Babcock.
FACT! they fucking stunk it UP last season! and thats with “their core” intact.
please remmeber that they lost HOSSA HUDLER & SAMUELSSON last season PLUS FRANZEN WAS OUT ALMOST ALL SEASON WITH INJURY! That was a HUGE chunk of their offense.
who was our huge chunk of offense last season? Kane Keith Sharp & Toews. Oh! and when Hossa finally DID start playing for us, he averaged a Goal EVERY OTHER GAME not to mention Brouwer had a HUGE Breakout year last season!
I am very confident when I say nothing is fucked.
Fuck Detroit and their band of merry asshole fans (i know there are a few good Scum fans out there, but ill believe it when i meet them).
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
They did pretty well after Franzen came back
Went from being on the playoff bubble to serious contenders.
when they had Hossa, Hudler & Samuelsson
please note this.
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
unless we absolutely NEEDED TO WIN
i put little stock in losing the last game of the reg season. even if it was to SCUM.
i don’t want to get into a debate over this with you because you and i are on the same team here. I just associate all the smack talk from SCUM fans as that. arrogant, elitist, smack talk and i now officially am putting no more stock into it.
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
Oh I'm not saying they aren't like that
But I do respect that team and I think that it’s one of those dragons we have to exorcise before we can think about being a dynasty…
Probably a horrible analogy but something akin to Nadal having to beat Federer on a surface other than clay to really prove that he’d emerged.
I have thought Detroit is a repsectable team
and they have some very talented players.
but WE won the Stanley Cup.
our team, even now, are made of Playoff contenders.
YOUNG Playoff contenders.
I’ll say it now because we climbed the mountain and reveled in the glory: FUCK THE SCUM LETS GO HAWKS!!!!
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
Even when Franzen was out
SCUM gave us a pretty tough time every time we played them. Except for that 3-0 shutout (NIEMI!!!), I think we still have trouble matching up against them. An extra year and a Stanley Cup win for our core might give us the maturity to beat them now, but until we start beating them regularly, I’m not counting them out.
You mean the two 3-0 shutouts?
Because I’m pretty sure we killed them twice in Nov-Dec.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
in fact
if we didn’t loose the last game of the season, we would have SWEPT them in the Reg Season
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
you are forgetting about the march 7 bedshitting
I believe it was the 7th, when Ladd (tear) scored a hattrick and we still lost.
maybe i'll take the summer off
if you could just add a “ditto for cliff” sig.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
Text them a picture of Captain Marvel holding the Cup.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
This happened the night we won the Stanley Cup.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
Maybe hit a little closer to home, then.
Go with the pic of Hossa hoisting the Cup. Or Hossa and Kopy both kissing it.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
They have a point
I mean, it’s not like Toews, Kane and Hossa are once-in-a-generation type players and Ladd, Byfuglien and Versteeg aren’t nice accessories to have on a Cup-worthy team, right?
Oh, sorry, I got that backwards. Toews is going to be pimp-slapping their asses for the next (minimum) 5 years.
thank you
sensibility is becoming rare these days
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
Can I just say that i am officially SICK of TSN? 'cuz i am.
So how is it that we STILL have Toews, Kane, Keith, Seabrook, Sharp, Brouwer, Bolland, Campbell and, oh yeah, MARIAN FUCKING HOSSA, and yet since we’ve lost our 6th D-man, a rotating 4th-liner, two guys that, while displaying top-6 talent, were never consistent enough in the Reg Season AS WELL AS Playoffs in comparison to the members of “The Core”, plus now Ladd being traded, NOW we’re fucked and the way to The Stanley Cup is paved in gold for the Vancouver Canucks??
Pft! Please.
Yes, Buff came up big in the playoffs with 11 goals. Know who else had 11 Playoff goals? Patrick Sharp (and thats after coming off his 4th or 5th CONSECUTIVE 20+ GOAL SEASON!)
Yes, Versteeg had some big moments in the Playoffs. Remember what other bottom 6 forward who came up big as well? Dave Bolland (and thats after coming off major back surgery). How many Playoff SHG did Versteeg have? I remember Bolland have one in 3 different series. Remeber when Versteeg turned into a fucking ghost for a LARGE chunk of the Reg Season? Remember when he was in Q’s Dog House? I do.
Yes, Ladd was fierce, tough as nails, and chipped in a good amount of timely, ugly goals when finesse wasn’t working. I am very confident Brouwer is able to pick up the slack. He has the size, the speed, the balls (yes, I think Troy is a ballsy, tough player) and a good pinch more offensive talent that Ladd. Ill wait on saying Beach will fill the void because I’ve never seen him play even though everything i read about him has me all smiles.
…
Nothing is fucked here, dude.
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
by Hawkynite! on Jul 1, 2010 4:37 PM CDT reply actions 11 recs
rec'd rec'd rec'd rec'd rec'd
you even just calmed me down. and i was embarassing myself a minute ago
CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS-2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!
All those people laughing about we are screwed
had nothing until this. Now we have a problem – lets see how the org deals with it – and yes we can panic a little now.
I'm Lloyd Pettit's love child!
Maybe they drive down the odds
and this is a good time to place next year’s bet
Dude...
I was angry…
I still sort of am.
But…
Fuck yeah.
Thanks for putting it all into perspective.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
by Campbell32 on Jul 2, 2010 2:35 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Looking for a brightside
Maybe all of these trades/panic will shed some bandwagon fans and tickets will be slightly easier to get! Maybe?
by shinkicker on Jul 1, 2010 4:38 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
secretly I'm hoping LeBron comes here
and all those bandwagon fans go to the Bulls. This Hawks bandwagon is getting rowdy and I’m getting tempted to pull over and start kicking people off ledges.
I like this description of the course of action you're planning to go with
let’s do it.
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
that would be great
I don’t give two shits about basketball, or LeBron, but that would help me out . especially the kicking people.
Hell
I heard that even some random drunkard Predators fans jumped on our Bandwagon! Can you imagine?
well, that Pred fan endeared himself to the bandwagon driver with his drunken hilarity
so he was allowed to stay and is welcome back when we knock his team out of the playoffs again. :D
the emo-screaming-OMGTHEWORLDISOVER bandwagoners that I’m obligated to pick up are getting irritating though. It may be time to start culling the herd.
I like plan "Kick people's asses."
Let’s go with that.
by Steven Schweickert on Jul 1, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
this is the first trade I oppose
Brouwer is the last power forward. Not good.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Jul 1, 2010 4:39 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Damn
I agree with just about everyone here that this one hurts. We’ve lost the toughest guy on the team. The only person happy about this is Ryan Kesler who won’t get dick slapped by Ladd anymore. But it Ladd can get $3M a year, more power to him, let’s see what Stan does now, if anything, to replace that toughness. Kyle Beach, anyone?
Realease the Beach!
The more moves the make the more I feel Mr. Beach will be wearing an Idian Head sweater come October.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Jul 1, 2010 4:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
No offense to your opinion
but if he somehow sneaks on a line with Sharpie and Hossa it really doesn’t matter. Especially if you lack bigger players.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Jul 1, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
anything is possible
but he only has I think 4 AHL games and hasn’t been a big topic of conversation for Stan. i don’t think they’re expecting to see him just yet.
Beach
My guess is that camp will be wide open, and Kyle will have every opportunity to impress the organization.
by TrickyDickAllen on Jul 1, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Defense
Would Hawks consider grabbing maybe somebody like Brett Lebda for 3rd pairing?
Maybe Joe Corvo?
Work is out….time to go drink after this terrible news.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
(i know thats not bg's logo)
i just love stevenson’s hockey one
CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS-2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!
i just graduated this year
wow thats actually really cool
CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS-2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!
haha yeah
but still…being a big metropolis and all hahaha
CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS-2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!
what in the hell is going on
I take a brief vacation from this blog and I come back to Stevenson Hockey logos? Did half of this blog go to my high school?
"For the kid that was there in 1992 who was crying when I came off the ice after we lost game 4 in Chicago Stadium... you waited 18 years... I hope you have a big smile on your face."
by it'snotsomuchmeasitisroenick on Jul 1, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
as proud as i am of my alma mater (hahaha holy shit that sounds weird)
i hated that fucking place. if i was more excited to go to college…i dont even know man…
CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS-2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!
I understand
but when you get to be an old fuck like me you will come to appreciate how great of an education you got there.
"For the kid that was there in 1992 who was crying when I came off the ice after we lost game 4 in Chicago Stadium... you waited 18 years... I hope you have a big smile on your face."
by it'snotsomuchmeasitisroenick on Jul 2, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
So who fills the vacant spots?
I would guess Vishnevskiy and Stalberg have a chance to fill the roles of Sope and Steeg.
Size is needed to fill the spots of Buff Eager & Laddy.
Is Beach stable enough for the big club?
MA! THE MEATLOAF!
i'm thinking Stalberg for one
and Skille for another? time to finally see if he can sink or swim.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 1, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I get the feeling
Stan isn’t done. I think he’s going to trade our prospects for someone else or get a free agent at some point. Remember, fools & children shouldn’t see things half-done, and this team is not fully done until puck-drop in October.
i think we could still trade Skille away, but i don’t see us doing the same with Stalberg, esp since we just got him. but then again, Hamhuis is redefining “job security” — though i expect Vancouver will be his last stop till the season starts.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 1, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we'll need Skille to play for us next year
He’s one of our prospects that’s seen time with the Hawks and is ready to step in and play. He’ll probably be taking Versteeg’s spot.
Stalberg will be with the Hawks next year. Vishnevskiy is a maybe.
by Ban on Jul 1, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
my thoughts too
Skille was part of that 2005 draft class. we’ve given him time to develop, and now i want to see if he can step up when we need him to,
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 1, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you
Everybody should just calm the fuck down and wait until we actually start, you know, playing the fucking games in October. Then we’ll see what we’ve got. I’m betting it’s going to be pretty great. Remember, we’ve got Marian Hossa, and they don’t. (Not to mention Toews, Kane, Keith, Sharp, Seabrook, Campbell, Bolland, Hjalmarsson, et al.) I’m thinking any GM in the league would take that group for starters and feel pretty good about their chances of putting together a cup contending team.
The world is NOT ending.
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
No panic here
Couldn’t agree more – the core is solid.
Two points of interest – first, interesting to see Stan’s game plan in action.
Second, there are roster spots to be filled. Will be interesting to see the roster take shape.
Personally, I wish the season started tomorrow – the sooner we get to see the banner raised above the dejected, aging Scum.
MA! THE MEATLOAF!
Amen
And Luongo will still be a pussy when the playoffs start. Buy your futures now on a Hawks/ Penguins final. We will see some new blood come in a kick ass too. Love me some Ludvig in 2012!
wait, wait
This trade isn’t yet right? Maybe it’s a ploy by Stan (while getting his ATL buddy to go along) to scare Ladd into signing a reasonable contract for the next 2-3 years.
Like “Hey guy, you can either take our deal or we’ll ship your ass off to Atlanta. You remember Carolina right? It’s like that but worse.”
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
Well, this is what the official Twitter said
Blackhawks acquire defenseman Ivan Vishnevskiy and a 2011 2nd-round pick from Atlanta for Andrew Ladd. More to come.
Take that as you will.
"More to come"
oh God…what else what else what else what ellllllssssssse!?!?!?
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
I am really hating that
This whole exercise sucks. This is going to be a completely different team despite the so-called core. Who knows what kind of chemistry will develop but it’s not likely they’ll have what they had this past year.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal.
you're just in mourning
for the loss of your fellow Badger. lots of school pride going around on this thread….
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 1, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm just trying to help the people having strokes
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
Yup I just got this text from the hawks. “Blackhawks acquire D Ivan Vishnevskiy and a 2011 draft pick from Atlanta for LW Andrew Ladd. Visit chicagoblackhawks.com for more details. stop2quit.”
-Matt Cooke is a turd burglar. He burgles ALL the turds.-
-At least he's not Cam Janssen. What a bag of dicks that guy is.-
by G8K33P3R on Jul 1, 2010 5:14 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
If Stan did this
he’d shift from genius to evil genius in my eyes. But, you know, a cunning evil genius who gets the job done. I think I might like him more.
"Oh god
I feel so deliciously whitetrash! Mommy! I want a mullet!"
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Shame he's not staying then.
Kane could help him grow a good one.
by Steven Schweickert on Jul 1, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
"Warm today...
Warm yesterday. Warmer today."
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Malhotra to the Canucks
I know this is an old deal now but that dude has always been annoying and has played well against the CORE.
Burish To DAL
The latest…
"I saw [Watson] coming at me from the side so I wheeled around and cleaved him from the top of his forehead to the bridge of his nose, for 35 stitches. Without any remorse at all." - B. Hull
can someone confirm this?
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 1, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I just heard it on The Score
so it must be true
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
Stan is not allowed to go drinking with Kane anymore
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 1, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions
So far its a rumor
please people. we are not fucked just because the Staff Sgt for Pussy Patrol MIGHT BE going to Dallas
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
Eye candy goes down by another this summer, huh.
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
my fiance
is the only girl outside of vancouver who thinks kane is hot
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
true
you can spot them by their sparkly hand-painted tee shirts and headbands that say “KANER!” or “(girl’s first name) Kane” on them.
when traveling in groups, they can be kinda blinding
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 1, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
I’m thinking Huet is probably gone so 40% is gone now! Are any of these new guys attractive? And not 12? I may have to change it to a top 3. :(
Morin is a child
he looks younger than Kaner
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
well, you have eyes
so why couldn’t you see attractive vs ugly? Now, if you were attracted to them, that would be different.
hahahahaha to be fair, i never pegged sharp for a bottom
(sorry. had to.)
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 1, 2010 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
He is sort of pretty...
but I don’t think he’s Sharpie hot. He’s young yet, though, so maybe if we give him a few years.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
is that right
and it took me a sec to realize you meant that at Pension Plan Puppets they were saying this. I orig thought you were directing that comment to me, i’m self-centered like that
THIS is the downside of us making trades with Toronto — i start to have an online identity crisis.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 1, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
ummm...yeah
that
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 1, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
old story
when i signed onto SBNation, i tried to have my user name be my initals, which are PPP (a story I’ve related here on SCH before, but ages ago).
But that name was taken, so i went with puppetmasterp. it was only later that i realized PPP was the blogger at the Toronto site, which was actually named “Pension Plan Puppets”
/facepalm
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 1, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm happily still sitting at 80%
because if not, we might be robbing the cradle with the youngins
by blackhawkeyes on Jul 1, 2010 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
ooh, that's true
so far, i’m only down Ladd. Mostly b/c i value d-men (in any sport), and right now, so do the Hawks
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 1, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
didn't he PUBLICLY state
he’d be willing to take less cash to play in Chicago?
hmmmm …
ah, whatever
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
yup
therefore no return.
but why pay a 4th liner over 1 mill?
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
I'm moving to Dallas
Not for Burish, I’m moving there for work. But at least we’ll be together
"For the kid that was there in 1992 who was crying when I came off the ice after we lost game 4 in Chicago Stadium... you waited 18 years... I hope you have a big smile on your face."
by it'snotsomuchmeasitisroenick on Jul 1, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Noooooooo!
Now who will take all the woman off our hands?
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Sadly all that’s left after Sharpie takes the plunge is kaner and a bunch of teenagers.
-Matt Cooke is a turd burglar. He burgles ALL the turds.-
-At least he's not Cam Janssen. What a bag of dicks that guy is.-
by G8K33P3R on Jul 1, 2010 5:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Kaner has lost both Steeger & his wingman, Burish within 24 hours.
Sharpy must be sad too; he lost his BFF and roommate.
in CSN's After the Point
he basically listed Steeg, Eager, Buff and Toews as the guys he hangs out with the most.
…at least he’s still got Toews?
oh man, no more Sharpy and Bur pranks
don't forget Mad Dog
and all those kids we have aren’t old enough to drink. Kaner is a very upset man today, he’ll probably have to go get drunk tonight
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
"go get drunk?'
am i the only one left assuming that he’s never sobered up?
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 1, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
i think people have been hinting at this
but when stan says they’re fine on the cap we don’t need to trade anymore, then we start hemorrhaging players like steeg, and can’t afford to pay ladd..i have to think he has something in mind…ladd may have been because of threatening arbit…or an impending offer sheet, but steeg wasn’t necessary unless stan had something in mind ahead of time…I"m going to put my faith in him since he hasn’t led us astray, and the alternative is going to lead to a DUI.
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
Burish
That’s strange, given that the Tribune reported he wanted to stay in Chicago. I guess the almighty dollar convinced him otherwise.
was going to say the same thing
I don’t think he endeared himself with anyone in the organization with his comments about Pronger. I don’t think that was the only factor at work, obviously, but may have played a part in the decision.
It's a game of redeeming features. ~ Bob Murphy
He is likely to get more ice time in Dallas
and be more a part of the team on the ice than he was in Chicago. I’d bet that factored into the decision quite a bit too. More than most other players, he just loves to play hockey. I think it’s a great move for him.
we are down almost two lines
there has to be something up stans sleeve
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I smell something too
Better be good — may come as soon as the press conference? Or has that happened already?
**pressing the palomino button even though he has no idea what that is in reference to**
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
oh ok.
That’s…not a palomino…I guess. Though considering rule 34, one never knows.
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Aye
but those 2 lines are pretty much our bottom 2 lines. We still haven’t lost anyone totally irreplaceable yet. Hell, we haven’t lost anyone on our top 2 lines save for Byfuglien, who spends most of his time as a 270lb lump in front of the opponent’s goal. Cheer up, stiff upper lip & all that.
that is true
as long as we get hammer to round out our top two lines I’m okay…bolland wouldn’t be a bad 2nd line center with hossa and sharpie/Kopecky , and toews kane, brouwher/sharpie
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
Yep.
That’s how I feel. Come October, we’ll see what happens. Can’t start jumping to conclusions in July.
Feeling good...
But isn’t it great that Hockey is relevant in Chicago again!
by TrickyDickAllen on Jul 1, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Laddie AND Burwood gone?
That’s a tough pill to take. I sure will miss this year’s team, I loved all their crazy personality and endearing quirks.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 5:37 PM CDT reply actions
dont worry
McD will market the shit out of the new team and you will fall in love all over again
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 1, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Bowman Quote
Direct from Blackhawks Twitter:
On free agency: “There are players out there today who we’ve called and had discussions with. We’re not going to stand on the sidelines.”
"I saw [Watson] coming at me from the side so I wheeled around and cleaved him from the top of his forehead to the bridge of his nose, for 35 stitches. Without any remorse at all." - B. Hull
we havnt
we moved people all over
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 1, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL @ Matt Cullen's Twitter
if it’s actually his:
TSNBobMcKenzie: Cullen got 3 years at $3.5M from Minny.
Cullen4: @TSNBobMcKenzie I did? When can I expect the check to hit the bank?
Hahaha
I love hockey for this reason. If it’s him, that’s awesome. If it isn’t him it’s still awesome, but in a different way. Did you see the MontrealCopCar Twitter account?
With all of the trading and free agent departures going on...
It kind of reminds me of the last line in “The Catcher in the Rye”
“don’t ever tell anybody anything. If you do, you start missing everybody”
Basically, anyone who you have even a small attachment to, you start to feel sentimental for the second they’re gone.
Whimper.
From Jesse Rogers’s Twitter:
@ESPNChiHawks: talking to bur now on phone
@ESPNChiHawks: he said watch out kane and sharp when they play!
I’m sure Kaner and Sharpie will miss you too, Burr!
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 5:45 PM CDT reply actions
what?
That they should watch him trip over his own skates and slam into the boards?
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Bowman on re-signing the Hawks' RFAs:
“I’ve had discussions with all of their agents. We’re in the negotiating stage.”
per Link
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
That's... good?
Because after all this, if we lose any more of the RFAs, I am going to have to poke somebody. Hard.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Sad to see a cup champ dismantled...but this wings fan seems to be enjoying....
I only hope (with all the firesale (!!!!) going on right now at the Madison Madhouse) the wings and hawks rivalry remains unabated…I expected all of the purge…but not to this extent…as a wings fan I was almost certain that Ladd would be kept but I guess Jr.Bowman had other ideas…..
by HAWKSARECLIPPEDWITHOUTWINGS on Jul 1, 2010 5:52 PM CDT reply actions
please leave, now
you’re stinking up the joint.
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
Now now.
Let’s be nice. He’s an obvious Wings fan and he means the best. His lack of membership to WIIM and 1 comment proves it.
by Ban on Jul 1, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
fair enough
but this is getting a little ridiculous.
we have a SCUM fan (albeit, a so-far-non-arrogant one) rubbing the loss of our bottom forward lines in our faces! c’mon, thats just absurd.
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
Spending the last 2 months in the sun will do that to you.
2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.
I was poking fun at him
He signed up today and hasn’t even registered for WIIM before signing up to SCH.
by Ban on Jul 1, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
ah, now i see
didn’t even notice he hadn’t signed up for WIIM, yet.
he came here FIRST? real classy.
ugh.
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
Don't get too excited...
The puck hasn’t dropped yet on the 2010-2011 season and rosters are far from set.
by TrickyDickAllen on Jul 1, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Stan
didn’t know Ladd was going to go. Remeber he did screw up the sheets last year you know.
I'm Lloyd Pettit's love child!
Ladd
Looks like Ladd will be paid like a 2nd liner, and will likely be given a place on Atlanta’s 2nd line. Good luck to him. It wasn’t going to happen with the Hawks.
by TrickyDickAllen on Jul 1, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
If Ladd is on the 2nd line in Atlanta who's on the 1st?
Buff? Eager? Spencer Mahachek?
LUigi was found dead at the scene, murdered by a Chelsea Dagger.
"seems to be enjoying"?
not sure on that one? either way i don’t think it’ll be an issue with the rivalry…keith seabrook, toews, and kane inch one more year closer to their prime, while the wings get one year closer to their AARP cards…the games will still be good i have no doubt
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
I’m glad your hatred for the ’Hawks superceeds your love for the Red Wings.
2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.
A philosophy shared by many baseball fans in this town.
by TrickyDickAllen on Jul 1, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait, wait. How old is Lidstrom again?
And Bertuzzi and Draper and Holmstrom and Maltby. Wow, you guys sure did lose a lot of your core for most of the season last year (unlike some teams, who are keeping their young core, ahem).
but still, if you want to talk about teams getting dismantled at the joints… oh wait, I guess you’d know all about that.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Detroit sucks.
Their logo sucks.
Their unis suck.
Their arena sucks.
Their fans suck.
Their announcers suck.
Their ice surface sucks.
Their city sucks.
Their zamboni sucks.
I’m sure I forgot something, but….you get the idea…..
MA! THE MEATLOAF!
by one timer on Jul 1, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
They already are with the Viqueens.
Ok, different sport, but still.
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
we have no place to hang all the championship banners…you are right.. the arena does suck…
by HAWKSARECLIPPEDWITHOUTWINGS on Jul 1, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Here is our current roster
http://www.capgeek.com/cap_calculator.php?Team=11
Jonathan Toews — $6,300,000
Patrick Kane — $6,300,000
Marian Hossa — $5,275,000
Patrick Sharp — $3,900,000
Dave Bolland — $3,375,000
Tomas Kopecky — $1,200,000
Marty Reasoner — $1,150,000
Troy Brouwer — $1,025,000
Viktor Stalberg ($65,000) $850,000
DEFENSEMEN
Brian Campbell — $7,142,875
Duncan Keith — $5,538,462
Brent Seabrook — $3,500,000
GOALTENDERS
Cristobal Huet — $5,625,000
BUYOUTS
NONE
LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS
NONE
CARRY-OVER BONUS PENALTY
$4,190,000
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
ROSTER SIZE 13
SALARY CAP $59,400,000
PAYROLL $55,371,337
BONUSES $65,000
CAP SPACE $4,093,663
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FORWARDS
Jonathan Toews ($6.300m) / Patrick Kane ($6.300m) / Marian Hossa ($5.275m)
Patrick Sharp ($3.900m) / Dave Bolland ($3.375m) / Tomas Kopecky ($1.200m)
Marty Reasoner ($1.150m) / Troy Brouwer ($1.025m) / Viktor Stalberg ($0.850m)
DEFENSEMEN
Brian Campbell ($7.143m) / Duncan Keith ($5.538m)
Brent Seabrook ($3.500m)
GOALTENDERS
Cristobal Huet ($5.625m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
ROSTER: 13; CAP: $59.4m; PAYROLL: $55.371m; CAP ROOM: $4.094m BONUSES: $0.065m
We have about 4 mil in cap to go after Niemi Hjalmarrsson Hendry and an entire 4th line
OH NOES!!!
We just lost a bunch of overpaid third and fourth liners!!! Whatever will be do?!?!?!
Chicagoan in the Lou.
THE STREET TO THE STANLEY CUP IS NOW PAVED IN GOLD FOR THE CUNUCKS, SCUM & FLYERS!!!
see, i can work for a large Canadian Sport’s TV Channel too!
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
by Hawkynite! on Jul 1, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Too bad to win the Stanley Cup your best players have to be your best players.
For Chicago, Toews and Kane were just that while Luongo and the Sedins were not and never have been that for Vancouver.
You can add all the depth pieces you want but if your top guns misfire in the playoffs you’re done.
2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.
Thank you!
i have a feeling you’re going to have to repost this a couple more times today for those teetering on the ledge (im not one of them, i just made my post above as a joke to how the rest of the hockey world seems to think we are “fuck’d”)
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
Just got home from work...
….and many many people are about to pay in Modern Warfare 2 for the events that transpired today.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
According to McKenzie, Frazzle is now officially with EDM for 2yrs.
They qualified him, and apparently today was when they signed his contract. Good for Frazz, I wish him luck (and will miss his fantastic hair).
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 6:05 PM CDT reply actions
damn straight
sad to see him go, but hopes he gets his chance in the sun..or whatever it is they have in canada
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
for whatever reason
I have been completely zen about all of the deals so far, especially because moving depth forwards means we’re more likely to keep the defensive core intact. I can see where Stan is going with this, I guess, is what I’m trying to say.
Thank you
What I’ve been trying to say, but said far more eloquently than I could. Defense seems to be winnning Cups these days, so anything that keeps our more-than-solid defense unchanged is fine by me.
Look at what D is bringing in these days
Even if we end up with too many of these guys, this is a very good investment.
We knew they had to deal away most of their depth
The good thing is we got a bunch of young W’s that can come thru
exactly
this is a perfect opportunity to use all the minor league talent we’ve got squirreled away in Rockford. It’s not going to be a perfect situation, but none of our untouchables have been touched, we’ve got three centers secured (I’m counting Sharp) and if Meatball signs, that’s our top-five defense coming back as well.
by gmh on Jul 1, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
The voice of reason speaks again
I knew there was a reason they asked you on to write for this place!
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
to be honest
I’ve been pretty distracted these last couple weeks, so I haven’t read a lot of the edge-of-ledge comments around here, haha.
by gmh on Jul 1, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
The last thread (the one that was live when the news broke)
got pretty cliff-jumpy. I think most people were okay with the Versteeg trade, but the Ladd trade seemed to send the crowd toward the bridges. It was alternatingly ugly and LOLarious, depending on how black your sense of humor gets.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
along with Argentina-Germany
both are blockbuster games.
by gmh on Jul 1, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
True
But something’s always attracted me toward the Dutch way of football. Maybe it’s that Bergkamp goal that did it for me.
I only became an Argentina fan in 2001
otherwise that goal would make me cry. Total football is pretty sexy though, I have to agree.
by gmh on Jul 1, 2010 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions
hear, hear
i’m excited…yay!
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 1, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
me too
a potentially VERY big upset
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
Really?
I’d count Holland slightly below Brazil, but not that far. They’ve underachieved in the past, but they’ve always been very good nonetheless.
i would love to see the Dutch win
the Brazilians are good, but they don’t seem as invincible as Brazilian teams of the past. Though Kaka is nice eye candy to have around.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 1, 2010 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm curious about the europe v south america matchups
holland brazil, and germany argentina
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
I am sure most Hawk fans are starting to rile up their anger (mostly because of the cap...) and I can already see the animosity in the comments...
I do understand that most of our roster is getting to a point where their AARP cards (like one comment said…) are printed and we are probably looking at a dismal season in 2011-2012…Pretty sure the next season will be exciting to watch( we will still make the post season and so will the hawks)…but admit the fact that it is going to be hard to DEFEND the cup with all the losses that you had…not saying you guys cannot..you will probably rule the roost in the west…but the east is getting better (atleast with what the devils and the pens have done..).
by HAWKSARECLIPPEDWITHOUTWINGS on Jul 1, 2010 6:09 PM CDT reply actions
Agreed. This is the hockey world we all live in now. All teams need to adjust on the fly from year to year with the reality of the cap. Depth, scouting and the draft are paramount for all clubs.
Should be interesting watching it unfold. I’m just thrilled that’s hockey is relevant again.
by TrickyDickAllen on Jul 1, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
what you said this time round is mostly true
your last post “hoping” the hawks would still be a challenge for the wings was just plain trolling…the only reason folks here are riled up is due to your attempts to throw comments out to cause just that
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
I guess you misconstrued the last post…It was just a sarcastic remark to show how things can turn upside down in moments..it happens to every team and in the NHL …happens to all the teams..!!!! with regards to the rivalry….Even if the hawks were the ones from the Dollar bill era…the rivalry would still be heated….but the last season the games between the hawks and wings were special…just hoping that this ‘firesale’ doesn’t that intensity that we had in 09-10….
by HAWKSARECLIPPEDWITHOUTWINGS on Jul 1, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
...
but admit the fact that it is going to be hard to DEFEND the cup with all the losses that you had
Because losing a 3rd-pair shot blocker, a guy that showed up for the middle two series of the playoffs, a paste-eater, a guy better known for his ‘fro than his play, a guy who can’t skate as well as his mouth can move, Ladd and Versteeg means everything when it’s not even Independence Day and we still have Kane, Toews, Hossa, Sharp, Bolland, Keith, Biscuit, Hjalphabet, and Soupy to build around.
By nature it’s hard to defend a title. It’s not because we don’t have the core young pieces in place.
by Steven Schweickert on Jul 2, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Wings fans also thought this after the Penguins lost Hossa, Malone, Roberts, and Whitney after reaching the Finals in 2008. They met them again in 2009 with catastrophic results.
2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.
Now how does everyone feel about Versteeg going bye bye
because I heard a lot of justification for it that they would now be able to keep Ladd. This is a fucking joke. I hope everyone enjoyed the championship…we won’t be seeing another for awhile….
reality can sometimes be ugly
how many game winning goals in the playoffs are now no longer on this roster…
Kop
scored 25% of our GWGs in the Cup Finals. As long as the goals come, it doesn’t matter where they came from.
by Germware on Jul 1, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I never understood the concept of the GWG
People don’t count game-winning runs/RBI in baseball… I mean, a GWG could come in the first 15 seconds of a 1-0 game. It’s not necessarily a measure of clutchness or anything.
So you're assuming that because guys who scored
playoff GWGs are gone we won’t be able to win in the playoffs now? I’m not saying these losses don’t hurt, but why not wait and see how the new roster shakes out, or even, how the hawks play next year, before dragging everyone down.
Ditto for CNS
Go but your Thrashers tickets now!
You’re nuts if you are this scared, this fast. Our core of both our Offense (6 out of top 8) and Defense (all core 4) are returning. We had the best Defensemen in the league last season, and the best player from both the US, Canadian and Slovak Olympic teams from last year. And our best goalie should get signed too. I am guessing that 90% of this thread had never heard of Steeger, Buff or Ladd before last year. We might not win +110 points in the regular season next year, but we’ll be ready for the cup run.
people are worried about the Hawks' depth more than our core
and that’s what won the Cup last season. Not saying I’m totally with them, but there is literally nothing Bowman can do but recharge the farm and use what we have (bickell, skille, dowell, etc.)
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
concur'd
the depth is what really made us invincible in the press, but it was also a commitment to TEAM defense, and it didn’t hurt that we had a DYNAMITE Defensive Top-4. We’ve had guys, as you said (Bickell, Skille, Dowell), stewing more a roster callup but our team was so stacked with guys who were starting to get hot at the right times (ie, Versteeg, Buff) or just being reliable enough (Hendry, Fraser, Eager, Burrish) that we had no need to call guys up. I mean, Skille has been down in Rockford for HOW long? Haven’t they dedicated a wing of the rink to Crawford already? He certainly has been there long enough.
i agree. if anything positive can be seen in this situation (and there are a few things) it can be that the guys in rockford and our able european prospects are now being shown that the jobs are there to be had so you better put up or shut up, as they say.
ok, im going to go celebrate my little bro’s birthday (not so little really) and drink my face off and remind myself that at least my team isnt the team that traded away Olli Jokinen just so to sign him back a year later. Calgary. Yeeesh.
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
lol indeed
Enjoy his b-day and thoughts of Calgary continuing to be our whipping boys next season.
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait
RYAN MILLER is our goalie now? Sweet!!
You know why they call you LU? Because you're retarded. And you're ugly. You're an ugly retard. And they call you LU because you're ugly and retarded.
And you'll always be LU... LU, LU, LU. And that's what I'm gonna call you for the rest of your life, is LU, LU, LU, LU, LU, okay? So fuck you.
I battled with you (on your side) mid season re Niemi.
But what would you have done roster wise since we won the cup?
What’s your solution to the horrific cap problem?
"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."
Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010
I don't know
I guess I just didn’t realize how bad it was. Also, Kane and Toews’ bonuses basically cost a player since they total 4M against the cap. Brutal.
dont you just LOVE how the fair-weather "fans" and trolls
just flock to the board in times like this? I smell lots of hot air.
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
fair weather fan...yeah
I heard all the same shit here in november, december, january, etc about huet vs niemi….who started every playoff game and won the cup…whatever.
lets not fight with each other
lets fight with this guy, HAWKSARECLIPPEDWITHOUTWINGS.
really starting to grind my gears.
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
sorry
I don’t find his comments interesting enough to provoke my ire.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
just because people are right about some things
doesn’t mean their presentation (of these thoughts/ideas/opinions) isn’t annoying
Ditto for CNS
Or that they're right all the time.
Not to mention that he didn’t predict Niemi starting every game and winning the cup.
by Ban on Jul 1, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Boo hoo hoo
I hate the Hawks! I’m never watching again!
by Ban on Jul 1, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
btw argentina germany is a better game to watch...
by HAWKSARECLIPPEDWITHOUTWINGS on Jul 1, 2010 6:09 PM CDT reply actions
Dude, if you're going to troll
at least learn to use the reply button. It’s one of the little red ones along the bottom of the post you want to reply to.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks for pointing that out….spoke…i mean bloke…!!!!
by HAWKSARECLIPPEDWITHOUTWINGS on Jul 1, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Psst. I'm a girl. A lot of us here are.
Please don’t make assumptions.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
unfortunately I am gay….sorry to rain on your parade,,,
by HAWKSARECLIPPEDWITHOUTWINGS on Jul 1, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay.
But given that ‘bloke’ generally applies to males and I… You know what? Nevermind. I’m entertaining a troll, and I honestly should know better.
So have a good night. I’m off to get more drunk, and maybe go rollerblading afterwards. This sounds like a fantastic plan.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Ladd did bring a few things to the table BUT
I was getting a little tired of his “change the angle” wrist shot. It seemed like the only thing he knew how to do.
1961 is a long time ago.
I was never sold
on his stickhandling abilities, so I kind of agree with you. I’ll miss his grit and his size, but he’s not irreplaceable from a hockey perspective.
by gmh on Jul 1, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait
Where does backing down to an internet tough guy fight stand on the acceptability scale? I’ve down that at least 7 times.
Oh, sorry, misread your comment
Erm, backing down is never really done. Ignoring them seems to work, so backing down seems redundant.
Nah, I'm totally joking...
More in response to the internets tendency to freak out and claim things are “UNACCEPTABLE” when in reality, they never actually back up the lack of acceptability.
I’m sure we’ll see a lot of people that have no clue who Mikita is be freaking out about how unacceptable the Ladd move is, but whatever to them.
oh well then i'm screwed
my comments are nothing but one endess speeling mistake
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 1, 2010 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Right
Im sure Bowman is out there right now nailing down another Hossa to fill Havlat’s shoes….oh wait, there is no one and no money….moronic comment…and even more moronic to think it was a good one.
And even more moronic to think that Buff/Ladd/Steeg
are Hossa/Havlat caliber players.
by Ban on Jul 1, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Weather Update!
Partly Cloudy, 72 degrees with a chance of trolls.
by VerStig on Jul 1, 2010 6:11 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Should be an interesting
Stanley Cup Banner raising ceremony with half the team that earned it not there…
ironically, I met Huet
recently and he is one of the nicest guys/pro athletes i have ever met. he was polite and interested in holding a conversation, etc. Seemed like a very grounded and stand-up guy….I wish he could play goalie, lol.
I've met him in person too, and he is really nice.
I also wish he was a better goalie, just because I want good things to happen for him. He once held a 20 minute conversation with me about his goaltending technique on soft ice, just because I asked him a question after a morning skate. The rest of the team held the bus for him, because he was so absorbed in explaining things and drawing on napkins and stuff to make his point. (Nemo listened in, and occasionally corrected Cris’s opinions or diagrams. The two of them were hilarious together.)
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm really opening myself up for a shit storm to come raining down but....
I contend that Huet is a better goalie, actually better than Niemi. By that I mean if you had to pick one for your team, had never seen either play before, and were shown game film of both on their best days, Huet would be picked at least 75% of the time. This guy is a top tier NHL goaltender, and if we wind up with him as the second part of our goal tandem next season we are in excellent shape in that department.
(I just love poking a stick into a hornets nest. What fun!)
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
Huet was considered 'Elite' before Tallon paid him
The work every-other game and only see 20 shots doesn’t work with him.
He needs a change of scenery.
He's no longer elite because he makes too much money?
I don’t understand.
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
He is no longer elite
because he never was elite and cracked everytime he was the number one guy except for about 3 weeks in Washington which seemed to justify this big contract – Tallon’s biggest mistake. If Rocky is willing to eat the contract in Rockford – great.
I'm Lloyd Pettit's love child!
Our opinoins of his talent aside
I just don’t see an astute business man (which Rocky seems to be) being willing to ‘eat’ that kind of money. Unless Huet is moved in such a way that his entire contract goes with him, he’s on this team next season.
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
Tax write-off?
Some people have a time share, maybe a motorcycle, for recreation. Rocky has a sports franchise.
Rich people do weird things…
Money isn't the issue
The goalie rotation and lack of shots do not bode well with some goalies. He needs a change of scenery or needs a rotation that’s tilted more in his favor.
Seeing 30+ shots a game and starting 65 games are not going to happen in Chicago.
When Niemi had games that he faced few shots he also had his worse games.
Point being that the low shot total thing seems to be an unfavorable circumstance for most goalies performance. If we’re going to judge Huet not being a good fit here on that basis then Niemi may struggle next season also.
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
that IS ironic
unless of course you understand what irony actually is.
1961 is a long time ago.
by HawkJaw on Jul 1, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
there is irony in
the happenstance of meeting the one guy on the team that you dissed in an unexpected place and him being nice and not running into the other guys such as Niemi…so if you must give a lesson in english and it use please go ahead
lol
still not irony. it would be ironic if you were the cause of Huet’s ineptitude as a goalie, as an example. it’s ok, you’re still learning. your body is changing. you’ll figure it out someday.
1961 is a long time ago.
Irony as used in this case
Situational irony involves an incongruity between what is expected and what actually occurs.
thanks for the help professor hawkjaw but you should stick to sarcasm
and not trying to teach english
lol
so you expected him to be a jerk because he sucked? that just illustrates your confusion with cause and effect. you have basic cognition problems.
1961 is a long time ago.
again....you missed it
I expected him to be a dick because he sucked and took the brunt of the fans all year and he was nice to a fan who was once of those that criticized him…..IRONIC. Do i need to spell the scenario out for you in small words and multiple steps so you get it….or will this do?
lol
you can’t keep playing after you’ve been check-mated. go back to WOW little girl
1961 is a long time ago.
nice try...
beep beep beep….that is the sound of hawkjaw backing up the bus….I guess you finally got it…and now realize how stupid you were…
ironically
i’ve written extensively about the futility in debating online. it is ironic in that i’ve ignored my own advice. there is no convincing you of your error, although i hope in some small way, you will now self-consciously limit your abuse of the term “ironically.”
1961 is a long time ago.
By marrying Tiger
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jul 2, 2010 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
hey gmh
you ever watch john cleese explain why soccer isn’t big in america? it makes sense someone..bout media and commercials
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
haven't seen it
link?
(also, it’s not that soccer isn’t big. Everyone plays the sport when they’re kids. The problem is, no one watches it.)
by gmh on Jul 1, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't understand Nascar
or … cars in general, I guess. I don’t even have my license.
by gmh on Jul 1, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
No, hicks still play baseball.
I live in SC, and even though I don’t like baseball, I know we regularly have college teams compete in the college world series. Hicks love baseball: it’s 162 reasons to get drunk every year.
NASCAR is about three steps below baseball for hicks.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
here you go
LINK yeah i agree, i mean its not popular because it’s not televised or gets any real media coverage
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
John Cleese...
He is to a degree the British version of George Carlin, love them both. As much as I like “football” it can be a very frustrating game to watch, too many stoppages and the same commercials over and over, dumb assed announcers, etc. I’m an old man who played a little “soccer” when I lived out east as a kid, the game was big there, just like hockey. Back in the early 70’s it was much different than in the midwest, they had traveling soccer teams which I don’t remember them having here, it was much more competitive in general, you had to be really good to make the better teams. I was just starting out and got traded to a lesser team due to my inexperience, it was the first time I’d ever been traded after all my years , maybe 5, of playing baseball, which I was really good at. I was about 13 at the time.
I don’t know how it is in the city and burbs now, I’m out west of the burbs, but here the Mexicans have pickup games at the local park all the time, much like we did as kids playing baseball.
wow...
that fist line is such an astute analogy! He does remind me a lot of Carlin, may he rest in peace. I love Cleese and all the Pythons, because they’re hilarious without needing to resort to swearing.
by northernsails on Jul 2, 2010 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, totally disagree with the entire second half of his premise
just basic British love-to-hate-how-physical-football-is.
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Montreal
made it to the the ECFs, and they don’t have as much skill as us. I know they’re only playing in the East, but it was arguably the 2 best teams over there. Size is nice, but nothing skill can’t overcome in the long run.
What's with the re-entry waivers
LOST VIA RE-ENTRY WAIVERS
$4,190,000
Who did we lose to re-entry waivers?
Nobody
You’re looking at the bonuses, not re-entry waivers. Look at it again.
by Ban on Jul 1, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay
where’s this hit coming from…
CARRY-OVER BONUS PENALTY
$4,190,000
The Hawks went over the bonus cushion for Toews and Kane.
I'm not superstitious. I'm just a little stitious.
A variety of bonuses.
A lot of guys apparently have them: Toews and Kane are the big ones, but maybe lesser hits for other entry level contracts.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
You mean carry over bonuses don't refer to the problematic stuff?
I figured they were bonuses due to contracts this season that would carry over to next season’s cap. Did I read that wrong? (heh, likely I read that wrong, but still.)
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
GODDAMNIT WERE ALL FUCKED!
I'm not superstitious. I'm just a little stitious.
by AirTrafficAJ on Jul 1, 2010 6:37 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
HA!
A THOUSAND POINTS OF REC’D!!!!
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
Just so we know it could be worse
Ducks-going-public-with-offers-to-free-agent-Bobby Ryan
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
agreed
and has anyone decided to thank Calgary for taking most of the attention off Chicago?
Nystrom just signed 3 years 1.4 Million with The Wild.
Calgary is imploding people.
Iginla must be checking the validity of his passport right now
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
hmmm...
mebbe we could grab him at a bargain?
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
no kidding
the hawks are dismantling because we had a great talent in a cap era…what’s calgary’s excuse?
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
cap rules
Can someone explain the cap to me? At what time do we need to be cap compliant?
According to the numbers above, we have 4ish million available including huet’s hit – can we sign 9 million in players now and send huet down at the start of next season, sitting 5ish over until october?
check out the official sites "Roster" page right now
ROSTER
What to you think? 6th or 7th in the west and make the playoffs with that team?
get on it McD – “our 16 can take your 20 any day.”
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
Obviously the roster isn't complete
That’s why we have free agency and training camp. 6th or 7th in the west my ass. 5th LOWEST. And that’s a stretch.
by Ban on Jul 1, 2010 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
TSN Mckenzie says
CHI just adds some toughness. Signs John Scott to a two-year contract.
Can he even play hockey?
Has trouble keeping up with the speed of the NHL. Doesn’t have much of an offensive arsenal and struggles to fend off fleet-footed opponents.
in his last two seasons hes only recorded 3 POINTS!!!
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
at least we're not Calgary
i guess i can let this slide.
hmmm, wonder if Iginla is really excited to be playing with Jokinen and … who else again?
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
That's a big dude...
Hope he’s on a 2-way contract though.
i only now looked at his physical stats
yikes he IS big!
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
Maybe Q will make him a forward
and use him like he did Buff
Now that's an idea
So a Buff without skill… could work if you’re trying to replicate regular-season Buff
Warm body in Rockford?
Or will Stan package him with whoever is left for some more 2nd round picks?
well...maybe I was a bit harsh
after all, Eager could skate some
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Sunshine could skate!
He could generate a pretty good forecheck — that’s why CNS and others liked him on the top line during the SCF.
Your memory scares me!
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jul 2, 2010 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I was just thinking the same thing
People remember stuff from last November on this site – a few weeks is nothing.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
I admit
I go back and read archives & comments, especially from when I wasn’t around.
Reading about people freaking out back last June/July is quite reassuring, actually. It was all, OMG WHY DID WE SIGN HOSSA FOR SO MUCH WE’LL NEVER RESIGN KANE KEITH OR TOEWS NOW NOOOOOOOoooo….
and now look- we have DDN & Duncs locked up, Hossa for a long time, a strong 1st D pairing and possibly 2nd (please hurry up and sign Jelly, Stan…), Sharpie and Bolland and THE STANLEY CUP. Personally, I’m not going to freak about roster changes because: it’s part of the game, I can’t do anything about it, and who knows what next year will bring?
We are definitely on the same page
Personally, I’m not going to freak about roster changes because: it’s part of the game, I can’t do anything about it, and who knows what next year will bring?
Maybe it’s just the eternal optomist in me, but I don’t really think anyone should worry until we see how the team plays together the first part of the season. We all knew the team was going to change due to the cap issues. I think we have alot of talent coming up in the ranks. We should be OK.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
I was hoping for a shot of your optimism.
I hope they can somehow bring together the same team chemistry they had this year. I feel Burish was a big part of that and he will be missed, despite what the Burish haters say. I don’t think it was his play that was as important as his attitude. Hopefully someone can fill that void.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal.
Not to take anything away from Burish
at all, because I love him, but he also was out most of the season. His role/impact was probably diminished already.
I think your Badger love is making your glasses a bit foggy there ;)
not saying that Burish wasn’t a great guy in the locker room, but I’m not sold on the fact that he was the glue guy in the room. I think you got Toews for work ethic/competitive attitude, Sharp for levity, Kaner for dumbass entertainment/lil brother-style teasing, Bolly for sneaky underhand pranks (c’mon…he is so that guy), and Hossa for age & experience.
We may have lost our showboating guys (Bur, Versteeg) but I don’t think we’re want for chemistry with the guys we have left.
Trade Niemi and ACTUALLY use him in goal then!
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
Sounds a bit like a One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest moment
“Just put your body in front of the net, Chief! C’mon! You can do it!”
Perfect complement for a team built on speed...
Er… Yeah… Um…. Okay, I got nothing…
I think this says it all...
*Second on team with six major penalties and 90 PIM
so ... Bowman wants to exploit that which is the "Blackhawks PP"?
did i get it right?
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
Little reactionary to Burish leavin there Stanny boy?
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
Yeah
because winning the Cup is nothing compared to being able to “defend yourself” against St. Louis, who probably won’t make the postseason anyway.
You know, for how shitty his stats are
The fact that he’s only a -3 on a pretty weak offensive team hopefully says something.
Still, I’d rather have someone else patrolling the blue line, even though this guy is a behemoth.
by Ban on Jul 1, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Carcillo can play hockey
One caveat; he’s an idiot.
When you subtract the idiocy
The kid has some skills. Once his hormones settle down, he’ll be someone you’d want on your team. Right now, he suffers from testosterone poisoning almost nightly.
Dont think I'd want him on my team any time soon
would be too worried about him concussing Kaner by mistake.
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Nothing a slap-shot
from a Gold metal/SC/Norris winner can’t take care of. You know how dogs settle down when they get their nuts chopped off? Same thing would fix Carcillo.
(Salo would concur)
I am still wincing
every time i’m reminded of that shotblock.
That guy Salo has some serious…well maybe not anymore.
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
and he's a great skater with amazing on-ice vision - see?
by ahnfire on Jul 2, 2010 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
That just never gets old
Thanks for the pick-me-up of my night.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
Sounds like
a REALLY tall Sopel
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark
WTF?
http://stars.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=533583
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
don't understand the raycroft signing
unless raycroft is planning on being the backup.
still, raycroft? yeeesh.
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
Am I missing something?
When did this Burish business happen?
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
Aww Bur, good for you- kinda makes you feel good for the guy
“There was a bunch of teams interested,” Burish said. “It was a little overwhelming. I’ve never gone through this before. I was in the gym kind of working out and by 11:20 [am CT] teams had been calling my agent. There were like five or six.”
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
kind of working out?
or working it?
“So, you girls like hockey?”
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jul 1, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
They're just gonna let him use the old Avery jerseys lying in the back room.
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
Are you serious?
There were 5 or 6 GMs that were interested in Burish’s services? Burish is a run of the mill 4th liner. Don’t get me wrong…love the guy’s energy but many of us are not fretting over this loss.
Ladd on the other hand…tough pill to swallow. But as noted by a couple of earlier posters, Stan should has some cap flexibility for free agents (now or trade deadline).
by learn to swim on Jul 1, 2010 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I normally hate dicks who point out grammatical errors-
but it would be absolutely hilarious if this 6’8 guy was named John Scoot.
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
ah fuck i was excited and i decided to post right away. So yes scoot would be funny. should of looked over my grammar
Bash my face...........Hawks WIN!!!!!!
John Scott
Has quite the hefty hockeyfights.com profile.
http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/5006
Will he be in the NHL next year, or is he destined for Rockford?
looks like he enjoys kicking vancouver cancuks players ass.
I think he’ll fit in just fine
Bash my face...........Hawks WIN!!!!!!
John Scott?
Wow. This signing, more than anything else that’s happened so far, perfectly illustrates just how hard our depth has been hit. We go from one of the most aggressive, effective-at-forechecking 4th lines in the league to John Scott (AKA Brian Burke’s wet dream) and two Rockford pluggers…
StanBow, what the fuck are you doing with this signing exactly? You’re honestly wasting a roster spot on a 6’8" pylon?
by josh s on Jul 1, 2010 7:44 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
i just like his fights, but i agree his numbers dont impress me
Bash my face...........Hawks WIN!!!!!!
He's a defenseman
So, we’re likely replacing Boynton here. Or just calling him up when we play Vancouver and St. Louis.
Oh,
I was under the impression he was forward. My bad.
Still, it doesn’t make much sense from a hockey standpoint. Ideally you’d want your 3rd pair to be somewhat effective in order to take pressure off the top 4. This guy just looks like a liability at this point.
by josh s on Jul 1, 2010 7:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
maybe
Stan is going to package him with someone else to Burke for Versteeg
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
The fourth line, aside from a three week stretch at the end of the season,
was mediocre this season. Two years ago, yeah it was great, but last year not so much. If you honestly think that Burish, Eager, and Fraser (themselves AHL nobodies a couple years ago) are that much better than the top 3 energy guys we have in Rockford and that we should actually pay them almost double their salaries (which, I believe, is happening, at least w/ Burish), well, I don’t know what to tell you.
by illinikc33 on Jul 1, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hopefully there's more to come after him.
I’d expect so. It’d be hard to appease a fan base by signing this guy and calling it a day.
someone said it already
lot of time before now and training camp.
lost of time for other moves to be made.
but in the vein of Elwood Blues, “Prayin’ t’God.”
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
Three Stat Lines
Past two seasons, including playoffs. Compare, contrast, and marvel at the totals:
G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW S%
38 59 97 35 119 0 0 4 9.5%
52 71 123 22 126 13 7 9 12.8%
46 44 90 -6 221 15 0 12 9.2%
136 174 310 51 466 28 7 25 10.4%
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
gotta admit
I’m not a fan of The Office. Not saying I hate or dislike it. It’s just not one of my shows.
However…I was thinking exactly what you said (“LOUD NOISES!”) while you were typing it.
(Twilight Zone music)
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
of course it's all a matter of taste
something of which you, sir, are utterly devoid.
BOOYA!
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
It was, but it was Carrell in Anchorman
I forgot he’s in The Office, too. There’s your connection, I guess.
yeah. And I cerainly did not like Anchorman
but that’s mostly because of the abominable “humor” (gag) of Will Ferrell. He actually made me walk away from Talladega Nights when all my friends were watching it. And I think Sacha Beren Cohen is fucking hilarious.
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
it's for EVERYONE!
G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW S%
38 59 97 35 119 0 0 4 9.5%
52 71 123 22 126 13 7 9 12.8%
46 44 90 -6 221 15 0 12 9.2%
136 174 310 51 466 28 7 25 10.4%
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
I miight be an idiot, but who are the 4 people we're comparing?
by blackhawkeyes on Jul 1, 2010 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
i think the fourth line
is the combined first 3
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions
oh. that makes things a little clearer
it’s funny considering how balanced I thought we were that the top line is producing so much. And to think how much different it would look without HAvlat on the 3rd line
by blackhawkeyes on Jul 1, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I dont know about you
But if the 4th stat line was an actual player…GIMMEGIMMEGIMMEGIMME!!!
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the 4th line is a prediction for hossa if we played the sharks all 82 games
but seriously, I should have looked at all the rows before asking. I was just caught up in the idea that that was some sort of 4th line/prospect comparison. ridicuolus, considering that would mean a 90-point 4th liner
by blackhawkeyes on Jul 1, 2010 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions
hey now
I can’t take any teasing- I’m in a fragile space right now- been baffled by StanBow and ground to a fine powder by technology.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
that fucking piano is a bastard
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 1, 2010 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't want to bias the reader
but it’s pretty obvious (way more obvious than what DZs means.)
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
EZ there fella
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jul 2, 2010 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions
It's 8:00 Thursday night
The Hawks have 13 players signed for 55.37 million dollars. After having bonuses applied from last yea,r their cap is 55.2 million dollars. If Huet is sent to the minors, his salary will be replaced by Hammer and Niemi. This means they still have to add 5 more players and they do not have any cap room.
I hope I’m wrong but it looks like that at least one more big salary has to go. Campbell’s 7 million would be nice to get off the books but I don’t see anyone taking that salary. That would mean Sharp, Bolland or Hossa has to go.
Somebody tell me that everything will be alright.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
everything's going to be alright
rockabye
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
what he said
The people who are in charge of the situation are professionals at what they do and I have confidence that they will figure this out, since it is their job after all. That’s how I convince my self anyway.
I got this.
One more transaction tomorrow.
by Hi, I'm Bob LeDonne on Jul 1, 2010 8:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
if you sell Hossa ill fuckin kill you
dont let me down bob
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 1, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd appreciate it if you'd let me do my job.
by Hi, I'm Bob LeDonne on Jul 1, 2010 8:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
our threats of unspeakable violence
are meant in the most encouraging way ;)
by josh s on Jul 1, 2010 8:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Unspeakable or speakable?
That matters. A lot.
by Hi, I'm Bob LeDonne on Jul 1, 2010 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
if any of those three
it better be bolland
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 1, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
NHL numbers has us at 50.3 mil right now for 13 players
That includes Huet. Send him to rockford, save 5 mil. Sign Niemi and Hjalmarsson, it’ll probably come close to 5 mil. That’s 14 players with about 9 mil left to sign the rest.
We’ll be a-ok. Don’t worry. Sure the season may not be as great as it was last year, but you never know what new talent will emerge out of Rockford.
by Ban on Jul 1, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
You left out the 4.2 million cap hit on the bonuses
carried over from this season. So there is only 4 million left to sign 6 players. Crawford will be added to the roster and is a hit of 800,000. So they’re down to 3.2 million to sign 5 players.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
3.2 mil to sign 5 players huh?
It can be done. It’ll be tough, but it can be done. Obviously we’ll have to take players from Rockford to fit under the cap.
Here’s hoping our prospects can shine.
by Ban on Jul 1, 2010 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
which
prospects do we have, exactly, that would only earn $500-700k?
Take your pick
Signed:
Kruger, Marcus " EL F $735,000
DiDomenico, Chris " F + $678,333 $80,000 (Bonus)
Olimb, Mathis " EL F $600,000
Bollig, Brandon " EL F $545,000
Dowell, Jake " F $525,000
Klinkhammer, Robert " F $500,000
Carlsson, Jonathan " D $565,000
Scott, John " D $512,500
RFA
Toivonen, Hannu " G $600,000
Bickell, Bryan " F $500,000
UFA
Greentree, Kyle " F $650,000
Hendry, Jordan " D $625,000
Sawyer, Jean-Claude "D $508,000
Hobson, Adam " F $503,000
Cullimore, Jassen " D $500,000
MacArthur, Peter " F $500,000
Petiot, Richard " D $500,000
Cullen, Mark " F $500,000
Bois, Danny " F $500,000
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
time to head to the gym
to work off some of this stress. take care ’Hawks fans and always always remember:
We’ve only just begun…to live.
White lace and promises
by Hi, I'm Bob LeDonne on Jul 1, 2010 8:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
And yes, We've just begun.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
All this just shows the enormity of our cap problem.
Just remember, Bowman’s got a fairly knowledgeable father that he just might run ideas past. I would guess these all pass the sniff test.
We won the cup. Bowman didn’t create this problem. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and guess he’s doing his best. Welcome to the NHL, 2010.
"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."
Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010
I was just talking this morning about how glad I was that the Hawks decided to keep Ladd
so much for that…
ughh
who’s left?
Core players and a bunch of rookies it seems
Not to sound too cliche here...
But a lot of these Hawks were rookies rather recently. Despite what we hear from Wings fans, this organization and the ability to develop young players should be worlds better than it used to be. Now by no means do I expect Beach, Skille, or Dido to be the equivalent of Buff, Steeg, and Sopel next year…but we might be waxing a bit nostalgic for some of these guys.
With exception to Versteeg
Buff & Sopel were piss poor skaters.
A guy that can skate like the wind is more valuable (long term) than a guy who can block shots or use his girth in the slot.
buff's
winner against the Rangers put away any notion I ever had that he’s a piss poor skater. He’s just so fucking care-free. If the guy cared just cared…
Fast doesn't equal good
If he skated like that every shift, he’d have a heart attack.
Great examples of good skaters would be Modano, Niedermayer, you know…guys that look like they’re coasting but they are actually hauling ass.
That Viktor kid is a hellua skater. That’s natural…you can’t teach that and it doesn’t come with experience. Want proof? Sopel…
I'd be happy with
disciplined for his rookie campaign.
I would make this trade any day of the week
Just put #19 raising the cup as a background and look at it and I truly don’t care who we get rid of as the first time in 49 years is pretty damn special.
We all knew that this would happen
It’s an inevitable reality of the hard cap. I think part of the reason folks are so emotional/upset (including myself) is that it’s only been three weeks since the Best Sports Moment of a Lifetime. That’s the pitfall of a SCF in June. It would have been nice to have a couple of additional weeks for the guys to celebrate as a team.
It’s going to be depressing that come banner raising night, half a dozen players (please Jebus, let that be all) will not be there to see it in person. Um, I think I need to watch Game 6 again now.
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
WTF...
I take 2 days away from internets and TVs and the gods of fate take a dump all over my heart.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
by Campbell32 on Jul 1, 2010 9:29 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
and that is a major reply fail
sorry BlueVoix, I didn’t actually rec you, it was for ben below…
by Katherine215 on Jul 1, 2010 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Think of it this way...
…This evisceration would be happening whether we won the Cup or not. Thank baby Jesus we won the fucker and try to remember the departed as they would want to be remembered: tossing gloves and sticks and drinking Busch Light from the grail.
The next couple years are gonna be spent tenderizing that rookie meat into something serviceable for a Cup run. I have ultimate faith Toews, Keith and Sharp to keep this thing on the rails until we’re ready to climb the mountain again.
(Disclaimer: Stan if you trade Sharp, I’ll find you stick shiv between your ribs).
by ben9599 on Jul 1, 2010 9:37 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
grammar issues aside
this isn’t an evisceration. It is inevitable. Again, there was absolutely nothing that Stan Bowman can do. Be happy he was savvy enough to pick up some decent prospects and 10 effing picks in the draft.
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I am happy about what we were able to get back but
the loss of goals and assists is not the only thing that needs to be replaced. I don’t want to get into an argument about what chemistry means to a team but last year, on this team, I think it counted for a hell of a lot. I would say the loss of Ladd, Buff, Eager, Sopel, Versteeg, Burish and Madden pretty effectively eviscerates a large part of the chemistry element of this team. Not a lot of laughs left in that dressing room.
i think you underestimate others.
if we’re going to get into a debate about ‘chemistry’, then yes Burrish was a prankster, but so are Sharp and Kaner. Madden didn’t strike me as much of a funny guy, but a great veteran presence he certainly was. We have that in Toews, who has now just about done it all. I think the most important thing for Bowman is to keep poisonous players out of the clubhouse, otherwise, as was demonstrated during the SCF, these guys are pretty good with each other and do almost everything together.
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Hope you're right
b/c someone’s gonna need to keep it light in that room with the weight of a Cup defense on their shoulders.
I really dont think this group looks at the Cup as a 'weight'
I think they’re far too young and free-wheeling in general to feel that way.
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Imagine if...
Ladd demanded a bigger contract and got one at the expense of 2 other players. That would be locker room poison.
Buff, Steeg, Sopel – those were Tallon contracts.
Well think of it this way,...
1. Buff and Versteeg were alternative very good and in Q’s doghouse for being extraordinarily stupid on the ice.
2. I’m guessing Burish’s schtick was wearing thin with McDonough, Bowman and especially Q. Plus now my wife will no longer have the urge to drop her panties everytime she sees him during pregame skate arounds.
Chemistry? There is still plenty of solid chemistry in place. Winning the Cup is chemistry enough. This isn’t a comedy club but rather a professional hockey team. Somebody will pick up the slack of making prank calls to Toews’ hotel room at 3:00 AM.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Chemistry is overrated.
Winning creates chemistry, rubber chickens and shaving cream don’t. These guys created the “chemistry” that led to the Cup in, well, less than 2 years.
I disagree
There are plenty of examples of winning teams in all sports that had terrible chemistry and could not put it together in the playoffs when it mattered. Winning helps but it does not create chemistry if there are cancers in the locker room.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal.
And countless examples of teams that had players who hated one another
and won championships. Case in point: ‘85 Bears. Ryan and Ditka, the leaders of the team, couldn’t stand one another, yet they dominated all season.
Chemistry is something made up by the media because it sounds nice when they have no facts to write about.
Oaklnad A's 72-74
poster child. 3 stright WS titles, everybody hated everybody.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
problem with using the 85-86 Bears
is that it was that enormous rift between ditka and ryan that tore the team apart. They were never the same since they hoisted the Lombardi trophy.
by northernsails on Jul 2, 2010 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions
is that a mystery free agency box?
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 1, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
bob...
that is so full of awesomeness that it cannot be fully contained in one reply.
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
LOLx2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Second City Hockey Most Postingest Poster of 2009
NOW STOP IT RIGHT HERE
Pandas make everything better.
Even shitty FA frenzy days.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Jul 1, 2010 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
nenávistník idú nenávidieť
Haters gonna hate
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 1, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
great story
compelling and rich…and full of titties
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 1, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
HA!
Jesus Christos thats a lot of mams!
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
im on board
LETS GO PARAGUAY!!!
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
Paraguay.
Country that can claim a 20-something underwear model as one of its chiefest fans.
Yeah, not much else needs to be said to bring the guys in in droves.
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
i thought this was an interesting wager
LINK
you may have already came upon it.
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
Where can I buy
one of these phone covers?
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Excellent
they come in pairs
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
ok...cant come up with anything else
too distracted now
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice bolt ons
Modified cars and modified women are my fav!
doesn't make a difference
so long as they dont look goofy
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
As a result to the following article,
I am now hoping Paraguay wins.
Larissa
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
yeah Im ok with that
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 1, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
O.O
My interest in soccer just went from 0 to 10 in nothing flat.
GO PARAGUAYYYYY!!!!
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll just leave this here.
Oh, NSFW.
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Everyone breathe...
Like most of you, I am unhappy that Ladd is gone. But we’re less than 12 hours into the rebuilding/retooling/reloading process that is the offseason, and I’m not going to panic over comments like “you only have two lines now” or “this team isn’t deep enough to make a run to the Finals”. Let’s wait and see what happens between now and September. IF no other moves are made, and IF the players who step into the roles formerly held by 16, 33, 5, 55, and 32 are complete failures, THEN we can talk about what a cluster this offseason was. Until then, I’m going to put my faith in the fact that someone with Bowman’s pedigree might know a thing or two about how to get this done, and in the fact that putting Toews, Kane, Keith, Seabrook, Hossa, Sharp, Brouwer, Bolland, Campbell, Hjalmarsson, and Niemi on the ice every night is a pretty good thing regardless of what else happens.
As long as the other 9 guys suiting up aren’t complete dogmeat, that is. Keep workin’ it, Stan!
"Eighty-five percent of the fuckin' world's working. The other fifteen come out here." - Lee Elia
by TenMinuteMisconduct on Jul 1, 2010 10:27 PM CDT reply actions
Hey, Philly made it to the finals and they weren't that deep ...
Anybody who thinks the Hawks don’t have a good team is either greatly understating the core talent or greatly overstating the exiting talent. How about the fact that Keith and Seabrook are just entering their prime and Kane and Toews are about 3 to 4 years away from theirs? Could both of them score 20 points each more next season? Easily. The hawks are definitely still elite in the NHL.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jul 1, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm leaning towards the latter
I think everyone here (who isn’t a troll, that is) knows how immensely talented Kane, Toews, Hossa, Sharp, etc are. You would have to lie to yourself to believe in that group.
Can Buff score a lot of goals? Absolutely.
Can Steeg be an explosive, high-power wing? Of course.
But are they better than what the Hawks have secured for some time? No.
by northernsails on Jul 2, 2010 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Really?
I thought Philly was deeper than us at forward, but shallower at D.
Of course, I like our players better, but that’s a different story.
Ah, they're all the same player
It’s like having a band full of three rhythm guitar players. That same group limped into the playoffs and beat a bunch of nobodies to get to the finals. I give them credit for amping up their game for the finals, but I think the high energy, big stakes game worked in their favor because of their physicality. Even with that advantage, they couldn’t skate with the Hawks. My philly prediction for next year is they get sick of Lavoilette and quit on him half way through the season and Prongers fuck all attitude gets stale.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jul 2, 2010 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions
And the refs will go back to calling penalties on them again!
Sorry, some Detroit breezes must have wafted in here. (Oh wait—that’s the manure that the farmer next door put on his fields today.)
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The two teams were Very even
going into the thing. Disturbingly so, in fact. Hawks showed how they were lightyears better when they started playing their high-energy game.
by northernsails on Jul 2, 2010 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought it was "very even" depth wise
but then we started playing the game in a way that benefited our playing style more than theirs and thus we looked way better.
I was saying they were "very even"
based on what the “experts” were saying before it started. Same issues with goaltender (too young, no experience, yadda yadda). Same good defences and solid amounts of scoring from three forward lines.
During the actual series, however, the Hawks showed how they were “lightyears better” when they started actually playing their game after the 2nd intermission of game 4.
by northernsails on Jul 2, 2010 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
"Philly was deeper than us at forward"
You really think so? Man for man? Top to bottom?
I may be picking nits here but I’d give the advantage to the Hawks at forward on pretty much every line, at least by a small margin. And the D, well, yeah, we were miles in front on D.
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That's not depth
I didn’t say the actual players were better. I was saying they could roll deeper with their lines than ours (the consensus was that we had better top 3, but they would get more from their 4th). I believe the TOI bears that out.
it'd be interesting if the TOI does bear that out
cause I recall there was a quote in the media from Richards saying that a major reason why he thinks they lost was the Hawks ability to roll 4 lines at forward whereas they could only roll 3 lines.
by hawkswin!hawkswin! on Jul 2, 2010 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Depends on if Carcillo was playing
JVR > Carcillo, obviously.
Not the most straightforward comparison, but eyeballing Eager vs. Laperriere (I believe both of us had a 4th liner who could play PK), Eager had less TOI.
i think, actually, that by saying "3 lines"
he meant HIS line couldn’t perform. Which was true. They got shut down and they were supposed to be the team’s best players.
Actually speaks a lot about his Toews-ness.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 2, 2010 7:15 AM CDT up reply actions
TOI was going to be my next question
I just remember Carcillo having, like, NO ice time after the first period, and another one of their guys playing one shift in one of the games (though he might have been a defenseman).
I know Burr and Eags weren’t getting major minutes but I thought we gave our 3rd and 4th lines more TOI than Philly. (But it’s really late and I was up til 3am last night too so I could be way off in my memory.)
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Not so fast
Hammer & Niemi aren’t signed yet, so let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Somebody else might be offering him an obscene amount of money just like Ladd (if that was the case)
II Can Finally Die Happy Now!
I somebody is willing to offer to the 1st & 3rd rounder tier for Ladd
You might be right — maybe not for Niemi (looking at the goalie market) but definitely for Hjammer (looking at the obscene payouts to D this year). Question is, are we willing to match amounts in that tier? ($3,119,540 – $4,679,310)
Ladd was going to get an offer >$3 M
As much as I HATE losing Ladd, the bottom line is Bowman made the absolute RIGHT move. The Hawks absolutely cannot afford to overpay for a 3rd liner no matter how good he was at times. This is the reality of the NHL salary cap folks.
Bowman is taking out the emotion and leading this thing with his brains. And for that I give him solid credit no matter how much it hurts to lose Ladd.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Then why didn't he just let him walk?
The Hawks would be compensated a 1st round & 3rd round pick.
Instead, a possible NHL bust prospect and a 2nd rounder were aquired… I bet Stan heard the word ‘arbitration’ and shipped him off.
Bowman knows what he is doing
Cap management at this point in the offseason is an absolute bitch. Under the circumstances I give Bowman an A plus for his work so far. He’s also very smartly positioning this team to be an elite team for several years to come. The 2010-11 season might be somewhat problematic, but we got the Cup BEFORE the pain had to come.
Keep in mind Bowman also has to think about the day when Seabrook gets paid.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Stan the Genius
At best, we can say that Stan sat down at the table with two pair, aces and kings, and, here’s the genius part, he drew one card.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
The cutoff is $3.091mm
My understanding is if it was for $3.090mm it would’ve been only a 2nd rounder. So getting a prospect in addition to that is a Good Thing™.
RFA’s don’t work like that. No one signs them to offer sheets; it takes too long and it’s too complicated. It’s much easier and simpler to ask the player’s agent what he’s looking for and then go to the team who owns them and offer up the appropriate package.
In this case, Atlanta gave the Hawks essentially a 1st round and 2nd round pick. Therefore, it doesn’t take a genius to recognize the offer they’ll give Ladd. I don’t understand the angst of how a 1st and a 3rd is better than what they got. Unless you’re hellbent on believing a tweet of some random internet guy.
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Jul 1, 2010 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
don't get me wrong, I agree with you
but your last sentence is ironic. Aren’t we all random internet people here?
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 2, 2010 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Getting VERY worried on Niemi
I’m thinking his price tag will be $4 million folks. Doug Wilson and San Jose have a hard-on for the Finnish netminder.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
really?
they can go ahead. that means the Hawks get their 1st and 3rd
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
not a chance
he gets 2 tops i think
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 1, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not so sure at this point...
Neimi should have been signed and sealed today. He wasn’t. And it leads me to believe that San Jose is about to make him an insane offer.
Hu
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Let me ask again
What do they do with Niitymaki and Greiss?
Stop being Eklund for a moment and think before you make up rumors on the spot.
maybe you haven't heard yet, but
San Jose already HAS a starting goalie signed up. His name is AntERO NiTTYMAKI. I know these foreign names all start to blend together after some time, but… Antti Niemi he is not.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 2, 2010 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can see St,Louis sending a huge offer
…just to screw with us.
Sure, they have Halak, but they also have cap space and would love to take down a rival off the ice b/c they sure in the hell cannot on the ice.
Screwing another franchise
is not enough justification to make that kind of move. It’s just not good business sense, you don’t throw around millions just because you don’t like another team.
it for damned sure puts the evil eye on you for awhile
trust is a two-way street. If other teams (not just your division and traditional rivals) know that you’re willing to do things like that, why bother trading with you?
by northernsails on Jul 1, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Look at it a different way
He was a greedy bastard! Didn’t care about the cup or fans, cared about the money.
I wish I could say this was my first time agreeing with a guy who calls himself butt fudge ...
but why is it so rare for an athlete to take below market to stay with a team. I know it’s a lot of money, and nothing to sneeze at, but there’s just gotta be more guys who think it would be cool to play for a team their entire careers and become synonymous with the sport and the city. Hats off to Martin St. Louis for taking about as much money as a #3 defenseman is making these days to stay in Tampa Bay for four more years.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jul 2, 2010 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
rich people
have budget problems too.
I guess.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 2, 2010 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd probably take the cash and dash too ...
but doesn’t it just warm your cockles to see them stay?
by Billy Charlesbois on Jul 2, 2010 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm praying Toews and Kane feel the same way you do.
by northernsails on Jul 2, 2010 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions
why not?
Mikita played his entire career with the Hawks
by northernsails on Jul 2, 2010 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder the same thing too
I can try to come up with an explanation but I really don’t know. I read the other day, I think on OtF, how Hamhuis was regarded as a good “union guy” who wouldn’t try to come down on his price just to play somewhere more favorably. In some ways you can think of it as fair pricing — if everybody ended up taking less money, you’d have a very strange market because players wouldn’t be priced based on ability but rather based on where they want to play.
Parity would be pretty much out because it’d be easier for teams like us to poach top quality players, who would demand a lot more to play in, say, Atlanta. It’s probably not the thinking, but I think the players themselves end up leaving it to their agents (and accept it as fact that they should in general play for the higher bidders) because it keeps things in the right order.
someone on the wings
got into a bit of trouble/controversy with the NHLPA because he encouraged his fellow teammates to sign for less to stay with a winner.
Hamhuis did actually accept a lower offer from Vancouver because he wanted to play in BC, though of course it wasn’t an obscenely low offer.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 2, 2010 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, it seems like there's a limit to the kind of discount you can take
I don’t know what if it’s just sort of an honor system but it keeps things more consistent, I guess. And with the cap you don’t get major salary inflation like you do in some sports.
uh, did you see how much money BOOGARD got? :P
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 2, 2010 7:16 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm all for parity ...
and i’m glad there is a salary cap. But I don’t think having players take less to play where they want would have a huge distoring effect. I think having a place like Atlanta pay a premium for players because nobody there cares about hockey and players wanting to stay on the same team their whole career is the right order, and more in tune with traditional market principles. I realize the league is a monopoly and the union isn’t exactly steel workers 401, but I think wanting to stay on the same team for your whole career should be considered a good enough incentive to take … say … a 15% in your salary. Look at it like working a cozy government job with less pay and better benefits.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jul 2, 2010 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I agree
I think it’d be good for the league too — it’s easier to market guys who stick around and have an identity as belonging to a team.
Is it the NBA that somewhat recently created a rule that benefited players that stayed with teams?
The team that drafts them can pay them more ...
It’s not that much but it’s a little bonus for stickin around. Of course, players can get around it if they have their team sign them for that amount then trade them, which I understand to be fairly common.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jul 2, 2010 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions
A person can't play hockey forever...well...Modano tried!
I guess a person like Ladd who is good, but not a star, needs to think about his future after hockey. I can’t blame him, but I want too. Hockey town Atlanta!
but aren't we talking, like, a MILLION more than if he stayed?
Unless your Tiger or Warren Buffet and that crowd, a million is a LOT of money. We’re not talking “a hundred thousand here or there” to use Burish’s words. It’s a MILLION. (That’s probably more than most of you make in month!)
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Yeah, that's a lot of chicken scratch ...
$$$ Do the dolla dolla dance $$$
by Billy Charlesbois on Jul 2, 2010 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions
These guys don't have a great pension plan
And they need a lot of dental and medical care when they’re done! Some of the superstarts make a fortune beyond their salary with product promotions and what not, but Ladd’s definitely not one of those guys. At any time he can have a career-ending injury, and he’s got to be ready to take care of himself after that. I don’t blame the guys for following the paycheck. Hockey takes a lot out of a player, and he’s got his own future to think of.
and I'm sure his family
depends on him somewhat, as well as any children he’ll have in the future. Pretty much all of the guys we’ve lost will also have more playing time in their new locations. That has to count for a lot for them, too.
they've got to pay escrow, whatever that is
and the average NHL career is apparently somewhere like 4yrs? Probably brought down by guys who play in the minor league more often than not, but there you go anyway.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 2, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
they do?
very sketchy definition: when you put aside money to be paid out later. You do it with property taxes (the things I’ve learned as a home owner :|) I wonder what that’s for in hockey.
by Katherine215 on Jul 2, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
honestly, I don't get escrow much either
but they do pay it. (Fun times, propery taxes. :|)
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 2, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder what all this is doing to the Hawks that are still on the team.
I think it was Burish who said that they’re all texting each other every time another move is made. It’s got to be grinding them all up pretty good inside. Not only losing teammates but wondering, “Who’s next? Is it me?”
Just a comment to get us off our own suffering for a bit.
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It's kinda like when somebody who is really sick dies ...
knowing they are on their way out reduces the shock but it does little to help the grieving process. What a fun 2010 team. This team has been officially back for me after I saw Toews score his first NHL goal in his first game. There were about … ehh … maybe 8 thousand people in the stands that night. Now we have a city morning the loss of Buff, Versteeg, Ladd, and Sopel. Sure, half of the team is gone but hockey is back for the whole city. And that’s a deal I’d make all day.
;)
by Billy Charlesbois on Jul 2, 2010 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions
RIP laddy
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"Shut the f*** up" – Derrek Lee. Well said my man, well said.
Im reading fan reactions elsewhere
are we supposed to be pumped about theis Scott guy? from what Ive read he is slow and unskilled
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that or
Eager’s brain, Sopels speed, packaged in Charas body
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 2, 2010 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Like if Matt Cooke was cloned 30 times
and it was the 30th clone?
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 2, 2010 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions
whats that movie with Michael Keaton?
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 2, 2010 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Multiplicity
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 2, 2010 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions
either way
not the best signing for our team’s speed-based game.
by northernsails on Jul 2, 2010 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Just saw on my facebook
like 20 people really like this pick up, maybe they are just friggin retarded
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 2, 2010 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions
it's like P.T. Barnum said
“A sucker is born every minute.”
by northernsails on Jul 2, 2010 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions
they see 6'8" enforcer
and go “Yippeeeee!”
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 2, 2010 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions
it's better than if 20 people
threatened to riot because of it. Silver lining!
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 2, 2010 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Instead of sending him to Rockford ...
the Hawks are going to let him fight in the UFC.
I know there aren’t a lot of fight fans left in the hockey world, but I still long for the excitement when one teams toughest guy dropped the gloves with the their toughest guy. It was even better when it meant something and somebody was sticking up for something else. The problem was the Hawks always had the less tough tough guy. Probert had about one good year with the Hawks before the new round of goons came up. The Sandy McCarthys and the Tony Twists. Guys who couldn’t skate, had no hockey acumen whatsoever, and whose only job was to make guys like Probert uglier than he already was. Well, now the Hawks finally got their new era goon, it’s just 15 years too late because now nobody else has a goon. But the 15 year old me would have loved this deal.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jul 2, 2010 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Sporadic fights are enjoyable
but I like winning games, fighting majors dont help, even if you are the Chicago Blackhawks
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 2, 2010 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions
They definitely don't help you win games
when I had season tickets as a kid we had a line of Mark Janssens, Ried Simpson, and some other schlomo (like dennis bonvie or ryan vandenbusse or something). All they did was fight. Every game. I remember Janssens had one assist for most of the season and I would joke around that I was right behind him in points total. Today’s game is a lot different. There aren’t enough enforcers on the other team for a line like that to go up against. You’d be the laughing stock of the league for wasting the icetime.
On the other hand, here’s hoping this kid can skate!
by Billy Charlesbois on Jul 2, 2010 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions
mostly agree
every once in a while, tho, a team is sleepwalking through a game, trailing 2-0. Sometimes a fight wakes the team up.
Not a real problem for the Hawks last year, but…
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
Goddamn it Bill!
I’m just saying that Dollar Bill was one of the salary cap’s biggest supporters coming out of the lockout. Good to know he can still fuck this team up from beyond the grave. Worst. Ghost. Ever.
"Erin go Braugh". What the fuck does that mean?
It's Irish for "you're fucked".
this is the first one
that hurts in a hockey sense
bye laddy. :(
[Tornado] sirens just went off...I grabbed another beer.
Somewhat comprehensive question.
In college sports, schools get in trouble when boosters supply funds or other accessories to players for them to go to their school. My question is, are there rules about professional sports boosters? Say, the sponsorship money the team receives from Bud Light to be a board logo, goes to Kane and he signs a minimum wage contract with the Hawks so he makes his 5 mil but is only a cap hit of 500k because the money is coming from somewhere else. Then the excess the Hawks make during the season gets paid back to Bud Light or is just kept for profit.
What I’m getting at is, since McD is such a marketer, why couldn’t the Hawks sign (say) Ladd to a slight increase, then work a deal with a sponsor to be the one to pay him the extra amount he wanted without becoming a sideshow that has to appear in everything.
Or, just have fucking Kanye front the billz.
by MadisonMadHatter on Jul 2, 2010 2:53 AM CDT reply actions
because the cba doesn't allow it
there’s a specific part that says a player can’t receive that sort of money as part of his salary or something.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 2, 2010 7:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Sassone's article on Ladd trade
…Bowman said he would address the Huet situation shortly.
“I had a very brief conversation with his agent, but we haven’t gone down the path at all,” Bowman said. “I think we’ll get to that at some point here.”
What the hell does that mean?
"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."
So for the salary cap....we dump Buff, ladd and Versteeg.....
We will replace with Skille, Dowell, and Bickell. Beach will be brought up sometime into the season. Also plug in Viktor Stalberg and Reasoner.
looking forward to next season jus to watch the up and comers…..lots of talent but they have alot to prove ,
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
Yup...
I’m sure there will be several players picking up the slack over the course of the season and it will be up to Q and Bowman to decide if they are the right guys. People are freaking because part of the championship team is gone, but they aren’t losing any of their big guns or top players. It would be different if a Toews, Kane or Keith were moving on but they aren’t. We still have a solid offense and defense, we need to have a solid goalie in net, I’m hoping it’s Niemi, he’s solid enough.
team leaders
(e.g. Toews, Keith) will have more locker room/practice responsibility, and they’re just the guys to whip the kids into shape.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
The fans freaking out is killing me
Yes, I’m sad to see our guys go, but we knew this was coming. And except for Ladd, I think most of us were expecting exactly the moves we got.
The gnashing of teeth is fine if that’s what you like to do, but don’t forget that the team on paper doesn’t mean shit once the season starts. The Red Wings were supposed to have done better than they did last year, but they were decimated by injuries. Montreal was supposed to be an easy opponent in the playoffs, but they found their grit and battled through two of the top teams.
We are going to have a bunch of young kids, and it’s up to our coaches and our core players to teach them, lead by example, and pull the best out of them. We’ve done it before, and I see no reason why we can’t do it again.
And really, if you can’t take this kind of uncertainty, why are you a sports fan in the first place? That’s half the joy, of never knowing what’s going to happen next. I’m not happy to see my boys leave, but I’m pretty excited to see what the new kids have, and I’m looking forward to an interesting season.
Core!
I know this is beating a dead horse but we have every reason to be happy we kept our core. Every time anyone complains about one of the guys we’ve traded away, I think you’d be hard pressed to get an answer if you ask who out our core we’d rather lose.
That said, we lost some depth. But that’s to be expected because what we had was obscene and unsustainable under today’s cap. So we aren’t too far off from SCUM’s boat. We’ll be more vulnerable to injuries, and will have to fight a lot harder to get anywhere near as far as we did last year. But what matters is we’re set to be a good team for a long time, and we’ll have a shot every year for the foreseeable future.
Exactly...
I hope things don’t turn out like they did for the SOX after ‘05 but one never knows what’s going to happen, that’s why they play the games. I’m looking forward to seeing what the “kids” can bring and also what the guys with that SC experience bring as far as leadership goes, and how much Toews and Kane progress after another year in the league. I think it will be both fun and frustrating at times, people will bitch a little and bring up the “what ifs”, but every team around the league is going through the same thing, except we are the champions!
Sox played really well in '06.
"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."
Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010
Brian Anderson
As long as the guys moving up from Rockford can outplay Brian – they are not the 05 Sox.
42 equals
the number of people complaining about doom-mongers
divided by
the number of doom-mongers.
I’m starting to find the numerator really annoying.
There’s a differnece between expressing distress over losing guys and doom-mongering.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
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