My Core's Better Than Your Core, My Core's Better Than Yours
I've seen a lot of teeth-gnashing over the losses of our Cup champs the past couple weeks, even though we all pretty much knew this was coming. I've seen people giving up the ghost already on a Cup defense, pointing toward '11-'12 already. Well, let's look at that. With the current CBA, teams have to identify the core of players they will constantly shift around. Let's look at the Hawks first:
Brouwer-Toews-Kane
Hossa-Sharp
Bolland
Keith-Seabrook
Hammer-Campbell
I throw Brouwer in there because I expect him to at least start the year on the top line. But you can remove him if you want, that's cool. So, our core is comprised of the Conn Smythe winner who will be a perennial Selke candidate and possibly Hart one too, a former Calder winner who's going to challenge for Art Ross trophies right quick, two of the best two-way forwards around who have both cracked the 35-goal plateau, one of the best 3rd line center in the game who is all of 24, a Norris trophy winner and his partner for life, a 23-year old d-man who's proven to be a rock and one of the better puck-rushing d-men around. Wow, this team sucks already. In seriousness, one aspect you rarely here discussed (which is shocking, really) is that aside from Sharp, Hossa, and Campbell, all these guys are going to get better (assuming we can get Kaner back into sobriety this year). We know Toews will never shy from work, and we have no reasons to doubt Keith, Seabrook, or Hammer will. Bolland will have to due to his back injury, and Kaner obviously worked his ass off last summer, but I have my doubts this one. Then again, they'll have Tazer to answer to if they don't.
Let's compare our core to that of our competitors:
Scum:
Let's start in our division:
Zetterberg-Franzen-Holmstrom
Datsyuk-Hudler
Filppula-Helm-Abdelkader
Rafalski-Lidstrom
Kronwall-Stuart
I hesitantly put Holmstrom on here because he's pushing 40, as well as Brad Stuart but they're still important parts up there. Anyway, you'll not find more strength down the middle than Datsyuk, Hank, and Filppula -- though Filppula was moved to wing toward the end of last year. But wingers? Franzen's obviously a beast, but past that we've been hearing loads about Helm and Abdelkader, and while I think Helm will be a pretty good pro one day, these aren't All-stars. The top pairing is probably in its last year and was showing cracks last year (Lidstrom was bad against Phoenix and Rafalski was just this side of awful against San Jose). Kronwall has been massively overrated his entire career, and Brad Stuart is just north of "a guy". Depth? If Bertuzzi and Eaves constitute your depth, that's not all that good. Consider me unfrightened.
San Jose:
Marleau-Thornton-Heatley
Pavelski-Setoguchi-Clowe?
Boyle-Vlasic
Murray
Well, we know the story here. Other than Pavelski and Marleau (who'll still bear the brunt of criticism), this top 6 won't show up when it matters. There's no d-man here the quality of Keith, and the fact they went after Hammer lets you know what they think of their blue liners. My man-crush on Pavelski is well known, but past that? Getting older, Clowe is barely a top-6 forward, and Setoguchi at this point in his career is too easily taken out of a game. Depth? Torrey Mitchell once had a bright future before injury and may again, Logan Couture and Jamie McGinn are nice young players, but can you honestly say this team is clearly better than us?
Vancouver:
Children of The Corn-Burrows
Kesler-Samuelsson (Raymond remains unsigned)
Hamhuis-Ehrhoff
Edler-Ballard
Luongo
This team has serious cap problems now and not even a conference final appearance to show for it. Mason Raymond -- their unsung hero really -- is going to arbitration. The Sedins got taken out of two playoffs by Dave Bolland. Samuelsson's old. Burrows...do I need to even say it? Their blue line is suddenly deep, but it's deep with #3 d-men. But remember, Dan Hamhuis has this. Forward depth? Don't have it yet, and don't have a lot of space to go get it. Next.
Los Angeles:
Ah, the next challenge to the throne.
Brown-Kopitar-Smyth
Stoll-Williams-Simmonds
Doughty-Scuderi
Johnson-Greene
Bernier
Scary. I include Bernier and not Quick here because the Kings have been waiting for him for years and are much higher on him than they are Quick, who they've tried to move for Simon Gagne in fact (which would be a problem for America if it happens). Let's go ahead and throw Kovalchuk on this team, because it really has to happen. Obviously, this team is a major problem. While they don't have the strength down the middle that we or Scum or San Jose or Vancouver does, Kovy, Brown, and Simmonds marauding on the wings is not a pleasant thought. This is the only team that can match the Hawks Top-4 d-mean that we've seen, and might even surpass it. Depth? They'll have it beyond this, they've got 16 million in space or so. Frankly, I can't see what derails this team from a serious playoff run aside from another Quick playoff meltdown. But that probably won't happen for two reasons: 1) He's not going to play 70 games again and 2) Bernier very well may take the playoff reigns anyway.
I feel mostly better now. LA was going to be a problem if we'd kept everyone, and again after Kopitar, who I wouldn't take over Toews (but would over Jack Skille. God that makes me sick) Stoll and Handzus aren't the match of Bolland and Sharp. Name the last Cup winner who wasn't boss down the middle....you'll say Carolina, won't you? I don't know, Staal and Brind'Amour is a pretty good start.
It's still going to come down to the Hawks getting contributions from rookies, but no team has sustained success without that. We shall see, but I don't think it's as dark as everyone wants to believe.
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No Nashville? I’m hurt, Sam. Truly hurt. ;)
Thats alright…we’ve got you right where we want ya.
On the Forecheck: preaching the Predators' gospel to the unwashed masses.
"'At least I didn't let in 7 like last year...."
Wow…what a captain!!
I hear that they're taking that away
something about it being too heavy a burden on top of carrying the team.
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
aaaaaaaaaand
there’s another rebound!
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jul 14, 2010 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
and more tears.
you know the phrase “Cry me a river”? Well, he does. Frequently.
by northernsails on Jul 14, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
That still makes me laugh, Cliff.
Can’t help but rec it
"Youuuu Suck, Mayyyyers!!"
by Tiocfaidh ar La on Jul 14, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
O/T - To help you through the Cap-pocalypse
The Odd Couple, Ep. 6: Kaner’s Big Day. See how Kaner celebrates when he takes the Cup home to Buffalo. http://bit.ly/d98g9E
Timely
Dude, you just made my day.
While I think I share the same sentiment as most Hawk fans, which is, we all knew this was coming and yeah shedding quality players we’ve grown to love hurts bad, but WE WON THE FREAKING STANLEY CUP. That little tidbit is the grape flavor added to my Flinstones Vitamins. It’s the little bit of salt licked off my hand and the sour squeeze of lemon washing down Tequila. It’s what a razor does to my wifes legs after a week of neglect.
I got it. We lost a bunch of quality players BUT WE WON THE STANLEY CUP. And oh yeah, we still have a kick ass core.
Color me ready for 2011. Great post Sam.
Just looking at that is promising
I wasn’t one to be all down about our team. I would like to know what the final product will look like come opening night (where we are raising a fucking banner) but that can wait. The kings have a solid squad and thought they are getting better, I’ll still argue that our top 4 is slightly better. They will be fun to watch as they remind me of the Hawks and if they get Kovy than watch out.
The nucks, scum, sharks are all going to be good as we have seen, but it’s about depth too and hopefully we see some of our young guns get the ball rolling. Look we went to the WCF in the first year with rookies and a ton of guys who had no experience and I see that nothing has changed. I’ll take my chances again this year.
2009-2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Chicago Blackhawks
Look we went to the WCF in the first year with rookies and a ton of guys who had no experience and I see that nothing has changed.
Well they have experience now. And when all the idiots assholes Barry Rosner dumbshits Jesse Rogers experts say again that the Hawks don’t have the goal tending to win the Cup, they now know that’s a bunch of crap
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
It's great to see the other teams
broken down like this. Thanks, Sam! I’m excited for to see our team in October, it will remind me a bit of the 08-09 team.
I don't want to hurry back to winter
But I’m really looking forward to hockey season.
Go jump in Toews Lake.
by shinkicker on Jul 13, 2010 2:26 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
where as I am rushing winter
I hate heat and humidity. I might be the only one but I enjoy the cold
2009-2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Chicago Blackhawks
i was just explaining to friends this weekend
about how i hate the beach. I hate sand, i hate running through sand b/c i suck at it, i hate the way sand burns my feet on a sunny day, i hate having to wear a swimsuit. the only thing I like about the beach is the water, and beach days i like the most are overcast ones.
give me an ice rink and a pair of skates over a hot, sunny day at the beach any day. Good thing i have zero aspirations of moving to SoCal.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 13, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
a fellow sand-hater!
I absolutely despise sand. It never goes away. I find it for days after, and I just can’t stand that. Give me a nice chlorinated pool any day of the week.
Jrs23, I also hate the heat and humidity. I prefer fall when it’s in the 45-65 degree range.
by Katherine215 on Jul 13, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
agree with all that
the damn humidity this past week has been brutal. Late October/ Early November is perfect
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
So to all you guys...
…who were going to attempt to make it with Katherine on the beach, you now know it’s futile.
www.secondcityhockey.com
by SamFels on Jul 13, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Not a sandy beach guy either
But I lived in SD and f’n miss it every day.
Awesome micro-breweries, weather so good you can wear shorts on New Year’s eve, ZERO fucking rush hour BS compared with Chicago, and nothing beats halibut fishing while getting shit-faced on a boat.
One thing I will say; women in Chicago are much better looking.
I lived in OC for 20 years
and spent plenty of time in SD. SD’s rush hour is atrocious and its women are hot, hot, hot. Are you sure you weren’t in Tijuana by mistake?
Never went too south of I8
lived in Clairmont.
The thing with SD is that most of the people, myself included, are not SD natives. And yes, the women are hot…but they’ve been MILF’d or are of the enviro-mental ilk. The ‘left-overs’ are nothing to brag about.
Rush hour anywhere in Chicago, near Chicago, or in a NW burb is generally fucked. I’d take SD’s traffic any day of the week compared to stop-n-go on the Kennedy you find on a Sunday afternoon.
for 4 years...
I spent my days in Sarasota, FL. Home to some of the most beautiful beaches anywhere and while I agreed it was “beautiful”, I couldn’t help but hate being there.
Chalk one up for another person who loves the ice and cold.
I like the concept of beaches
I just hate sand. and salt water.
Include me in the group that prefers swimming in pools over swimming at a beach.
I just love sunshine
you can’t really swim at a beach the same way you can in a pool, but getting attacked by waves can be fun!
of course, the beaches where I’m from are all cold and windy, but it can be a good time if you pick your days well.
Go jump in Toews Lake.
In SoCal right now
Flying out later today. Somehow I brought the cold with me, and it was lovely!
I don’t mind beaches, but I never got what was so nice about sitting there soaking in the sun with hundreds of other beachgoers. I prefer a place with a nice view or fun things to do.
At a SoCal beach
and complaining about the view? Have you ever heard of a thong?
the view
is my favorite part about living about a 30 min bike ride from both Huntington and Newport beaches
The Republican girls are alright
but I perfer the more liberal one’s at Redondo, Hermosa or Santa Monica.
Lib girls are easy
until you get stabbed w/an umbrella (long story).
a long story
that you CLEARLY have to tell now. to leave us hanging would be cruel.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 13, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Aww christ...I don't even where to start.
Lets just say the end of the story was me telling a Police Officer something to the effect of; “ever date a girl and everything is great for 3mo, then she stops pretending and lets her crazy out?”
Fuckin’ bitch tried to take off my Salo w/a umbrella…got me in the thigh.
I remember not even being able to say 'hello'
when she walked in…and immediately gobbled my cock. It was that kinda relationship…lots of drinking/fucking…not much else. It was great, so I thought.
After we were done sodomizing each other we got to the small talk “how was your day at work?” Bad bad bad bad question to ask.
Turns out the tits popping out of her shirt outfit she was wearing was the same thing she wore to work. She was up for a perf. review & possible promotion, so she skank’d it up for her blue-pill poppin’ boss.
Turns out, another dude in the office noticed…made some remarks…and she got into a bra-burning feminazi tizzy over it.
I pointed out the irony of that and the rest of the evening resembled out-takes from the Exorcist. About an hour of her screaming and me wondering WTF, the attempted neutering happened and she called 911 to report I ‘beat’ her.
I’m naked and bleeding all over the place, scratches all over me, my couch/rug ruined and the cops show up.
Thank God the cops were very understanding.
by Bluliner on Jul 13, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Maybe I should become a Hawks fan. I like it here.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 13, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
So we should sign you up
for an early seat on the bandwagon? Would you like an aisle or window seat?
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
holy crap
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
wow, just wow
not even i would have imagined that one….and i live off the default assumption that people are either crazy or dumb until they prove otherwise.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 13, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Nobody's topping
burpchelischili’s 5 marriages though.
by Katherine215 on Jul 14, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions
4
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
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by burpchelischili on Jul 15, 2010 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
oops!
I’m sorry, I thought it was 5. I must’ve been thinking of my slutty aunt.
by Katherine215 on Jul 16, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
yep, he's got me
Ive had a few crazy stalker types, but none of them have caused me lasting physical harm
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 14, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
rec'd
that story is worth the ordeal. Hilarious!
Here,
I pointed out the irony of that
is where it all broke bad. But who can honestly say they’d leave that one on the tee. Well-played.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
Holy shit
i love how were all about full disclosure here on SCH. rec’d.
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
you weren't anywhere near Boston when this happened
were you?
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 14, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
I have a few questions
1. Was she a Ducks fan or Kings? Or did you not get that far in your relationship?
2. Was she wearing a low-cut Pronger jersey?
3. Were you naked when the cops arrived? If so, were the cops immediately understanding or did it take them a little time to get to know you?
4. Did you have an erection when the cops arrived?
5. If not, did you achieve an erection once they came in?
6. Did she burn her bra while it was still on?
7. Would you date her again? Would you go steady?
With some more details about the sodomy you could start a Penthouse Police Blotter letters section.
by flyersfaninchicago on Jul 14, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The answers to these questions
might be as good as the original story.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Answers
1. She hated ‘men sports’ and was originally from Michigan
2. No, think tramp secretary
3. No, had a towel…but they did take a pic of the stabbing w/a cameo by my nutsuck. (always a good idea to be well groomed – you never know)
4. Ummm…no
5. No. Too upset about my umbrella being damaged
6. I think she burned it in the office. She was one of those HR trouble-makers you’ve all probably have dealed with before.
7. Only if I can piss on her…repeatedly.
……..
If I’m saving the stories about the exploits of my 20’s for a book deal. Chapter titles would include; The Sea-Donkey experience, The Miller Experiment, The Rule of Thumb, how NOT to get slapped in a bar, Up Knob Creek…and the list goes on.
I’m not even sure why/how I’m still alive.
It's always good to have a spare umbrella
with watersports and all.
I’d been drowning in peace love and goodwill with all my South African friends the last month so it’s a pleasure to return to the land of the NHL and its twisted fan base.
So thank you for a wonderful post. Not like Jimmy Stewart wonderful but still, a story of passion and justice, and how we’re all doing the best we can with the tools at hand.
Good luck with the book deal. I think it was Hemingway who said you had to wait 10 or 20 years to write about your experiences but at least you have the titles.
by flyersfaninchicago on Jul 14, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure
most everyone on here knows about it, but for those that don’tr check out Tuckermax.com and read some of his stories.
II Can Finally Die Happy Now!
that guy is a fucking waste of life
some of his shit is funny, but he is a true cocksucker
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 14, 2010 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
How the Hell
has this run so long without a Palomino?
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
This is why I spend my time here and not at BSH
We don’t have any snuff porn.
by flyersfaninchicago on Jul 14, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
i couldn't find the sarcasm character on my keyboard
by flyersfaninchicago on Jul 14, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
crap, reply fail
sorry, i’ve been focused on the world cup. i’m ashamed.
by flyersfaninchicago on Jul 14, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
from here
the trasdition is to add 50 comments bemaoning Star Wars I-III.
I’ll start: what’s the deal with Jar Jar Binks?
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
Fuck that guy
wait, i fell in the trap
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 14, 2010 7:19 PM CDT up reply actions
haha
i remember the last time i started a star wars fest by making a post in the Jar Jar Binks manner. not going to do that again. i’ll probably be burned at the stake. haha
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Jul 14, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
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by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Jul 14, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember watching that movie in the theater and just thinking:
“I just fucking wasted 14 fucking dollars!!”
And I’m a VERY big Star Wars geek.
by northernsails on Jul 14, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I am too
but i was in awe and very involved with the movie that i my mind forced me to not notice that all that bad.
the only movie i’ve ever considered walking out of a theater for was Tropic Thunder. biggest waste of 5 bucks and however long that torture flick was.
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Jul 14, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I walked out my friend's house while they were watching Talladega Nights
I didn’t want to make their “enjoyment” of that debacle any worse.
I’m a nice guy, I guess
by northernsails on Jul 14, 2010 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions
You didn't like Tropic Thunder?
I thought that movie was hilarious.
I never walked out of a movie before, but I did completely divert an entire party from the movie Pootie Tang. I watched about 10 minutes and was like, this movie is horrible and started a poker game. By halfway through the movie, I had drawn everyone at the party into the poker game minus the guy hosting the party & his best friend that brought the movie.
that
and they’re kind of sensitive about incessant, repetitive comments about cheesesteaks. or something like that.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 14, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
makin fun of people is allright...
if they are the ones that are doin’ it.
Don’t like it much when it is the other way around!
ass floss?
usually the only thongs I’ve see have been accompanied by 2 side orders of cottage cheese.
Sometimes you get the bear, and sometimes the bear gets you. But it's a good idea not to go around agitating bears.
by Timothy Fisher on Jul 13, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Only time I go to the beach
is to swim or drink beer and bag Tarpon and Snook with my Fly Rod
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 13, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
That's What I'm Talking About!
I lived in Pine Island Fla. for a spell and we used to tear up the line siders & Silver Kings! Specks & Reds in the Indian River are a good time too
II Can Finally Die Happy Now!
nothing like 90 lb Tarpon firing out of the water like a
Tomahawk Cruise Missle
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 14, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
We used to cruise
the canals while throwing whole mullet alongside the docked boats and we would kill them
II Can Finally Die Happy Now!
to all beach-haters
curmudgeon here. just wanna register sadness at the preference for pools and, in general, the “apartness” implied from our natural environment.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
a. Most of the issues raised were with beaches, not pollutted beaches,.
2. I have been to Chicago beaches — I don’t think they are horribly polluted.
d. Your comment suggests a smidgen of the “bubble boy” mentality I am lamenting.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
Actually, it was meant to be humorous
I don’t like beaches myself, because I’m a beginner swimmer and don’t really find much fun about just lying on the sand. For swimming I prefer a pool because it’s a more stable/less chaotic environment. I’m more comfortable with not drowning in pools. For outdoors time I prefer running or hiking in the woods.
suggestion
Just drink a lot and then go swimming in the lake. It will take the edge off your nerves.
Just remember, never swim within 30 minutes after eating a meal. Safety first!
‽ ⅋ ‽
How about a pool
right on the beach? That’s my ideal: I like to look at the sand and water, I just am not a huge fan of swimming in it.
by Katherine215 on Jul 14, 2010 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Lake St Clair
My mom is originally from Detroit, my grandfater tried out for the Wings waaaay back in the day. Was a big Wing fan (good thing THAT is not contained in the gene pool). Antway i went to visit when I was a kid and we went boating on Lake St. Clair, I was stupified thatr there was a pool RIGHT ON the beach. When I asked my Grandfater about it he told me the water was so bad that the had to build a pool there so people could swim as no one was allow in the water. needless to say I really didn’t want to even go on the boat.
You can make things happen, watch things happen or wonder what the hell happened.
by Timothy Fisher on Jul 14, 2010 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I was thinking more of
tropical resorts where they serve drinks with little umbrellas by the pool and the ocean is just a couple steps away with jet skis and surf boards to be rented.
But yours works too.
by Katherine215 on Jul 14, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
jeez
I need a new keyboard or new fingers.
You can make things happen, watch things happen or wonder what the hell happened.
by Timothy Fisher on Jul 14, 2010 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Now that sounds fun and relaxing
I can do that, not on an everyday basis but sitting out in the sun burning up like a fucking tomato doesn’t sound all that appealing like a lot of people seem to do
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I don't think it's so much a preference for a pool
more than a dislike of sand and in some cases salt water.
My enjoyment of “natural environment” is a rock beach on a fresh water lake.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Went to Colorado
went up into the mountains, was about 85 degrees out, drove along a river where people were white water rafting. Was a place you could park and go swimming. I said “Hey, lets stop” the Colorado native said sure, as I was just about to walk into the water, she started laughing. OMFG HOW COULD WATER BE THAT FREAKING COLD AND NOT BE SOLID???
You can make things happen, watch things happen or wonder what the hell happened.
by Timothy Fisher on Jul 14, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
I know the feeling of the cold water
My parents have a cabin on a lakefront in Southwest Ontario. The ice breaks in May and it starts to freeze again in October. When I was a kid I didn’t have a problem with the temperature of the water. If I went into the lake today, I’d have hypothermia in about 2 minutes.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
A waterfall
in Quetico, in September. It was, how shall I put it, refreshing. If by refreshing you understand that I mean it felt like standing under an avalanche of ice-slush.
Our Cup.
I can agree with this.
I love white water kayaking…or kayaking in general.
The only time I ever enjoyed swimming in salt water was in the bioluminescence bay in Puerto Rico, and that’s because the experience trumped the whole “ugh salt water” thing.
The only time I tolerated
the sand & saltwater was when I was in the Bahamas. Like you said, the experience trumped the whole “ugh salt water” thing. I think it helped that out resort had showers right off the beach so you could rinse off all of the sand and saltwater.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Every beach
ummm, how should I say this, worth it’s salt has showers right there to rinse in.
II Can Finally Die Happy Now!
don't hate on the sand!
it’s the only thing that keeps be sane here in mexico! my sundays consist of going to the beach, drinking beer, and eating fried fish. you have to experience it! :D
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Jul 14, 2010 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Winter > Summer
It’s not hard to put more clothes on if you’re cold. There’s only so much you can take off before burning up and/or being arrested.
This is my same philosophy
though I also hate the cold. But I’m a difficult person.
by Katherine215 on Jul 13, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
the thing about Chicago
is, if you don’t like cold weather, you tend to leave.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
right there with you
work outside most of the time. Summer sucks. If it never got over 60 I’d be happy. If it never got over 60 and the cap problems were solved, I’d be very happy.
"I'll keep it short and sweet: Family. Religion. Friendship. These are the three demons you must slay if you wish to succeed in business."
Never minded beaches
However never get the chance to go or drive to one so what the hell, give me the cold. Maybe if I had a 6 pack instead of packing a 6 pack things would be different (as I sit here enjoying my mexican food)
Can we just move hockey season closer?
or possibly, make it year round?
We could draw massive offseason following like the NBA….. with a Kovalchuk announcement special! …..
/taps mic
Anyone there?
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
Thanks for a well thought out response to all of the ledge jumpers
We still have a very solid team and, despite what some people might think, it’d be tricky to repeat as champs even if we had been able to keep the team completely intact. The point is that WE ARE THE STANLEY CUP CHAMPS!! That’s something I wasn’t sure I’d ever be able to say in my lifetime.
Even if we don’t repeat this year, our core guys are going to keep things exciting.
And then there's this:
I’ll take NHL for $1000
After being named best forward at the Vancouver Olympics in 2010, he captained the Chicago Blackhawks the same year, to their first Championship in 49 years at the age of 22.
Who is Jonathon Toews?
Incorrect
We’re looking for Jonathan Toews.
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"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
Judges?
Okay, we can accept that. $1000 to you. Next category, please.
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"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
Famous Bad Lines for $1000

He’s the clown depicted in this image
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
but i see three clowns...
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Mindblogging, far out!
Now I won’t have to mess with this stupid keyboard.
Just think it, and it posts!
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
Hey butter!
and wouldn’t you be better on a roll?
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
ROFL!!!
seriously, can’t stop laughing. you two are ridiculous.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 13, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Guess I'll have to ask for Devin Hester money on my next contract.
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
Nice job, Sam
Send this to recent ledge climber, Jesse Rogers.
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"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
Kings
the thought of how good the Kings might be this year has been getting larger and larger in the back of my head for the last month. i think they’re kind of flying under the radar right now, haven’t heard much said about them, don’t know why. I think you’re dead on here, they look scary now, and i think there’s a great chance they’ll look a little scarier by the time October gets here.
But yes, other than that, i think we won’t be as dominant next year but we should be able to keep up. and that’ll be GOOD b/c we shouldn’t have to put up with any long stretches of “entitlement Hawks” play like we did for a bit last year. it’ll keep them on their toes more, and that should be fun to watch.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
Thanks Christ!
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"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
christ says
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought I heard my name in there
I’ve seen people giving up the ghost already on a Cup defense, pointing toward ‘11-’12 already.
but I have to say this still doesn’t convince me we’re locks to repeat (and I know Sam doesn’t come out and state that). And that’s OK. I DO think we’re legit for WCF and damn near locks for the Semis. And as for the future years, I like me some of them quite a bit.
Still, this post is full of feel-good and I’m glad Sam put it up there for perspective.
Our Cup.
Does/did anyone expect to be locks for a repeat?
You weren’t saying you did, but I wonder if anyone was flying that high after the parade.
I just want a fun, competitive team and hockey in May. I think we can do that.
Go jump in Toews Lake.
by shinkicker on Jul 13, 2010 2:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
yes
I actually remember a shit-ton of people who were high on a repeat around the parade—not necessarily in SCH (although I’m sure you can dig up a comment or two) but in other places too. I think we’ll contend, for sure, but repeats have always been tough to pull off and capocalypse was looming. I’m okay with this.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Nothing's a lock
We need to get top 3 spot in the West, no worse than 4…we’ve shown what we can do on the road so not being 1 or 2 isn’t scary
All you gotta do is get in the playoffs. Stay healthy and get in the playoffs. That’s where depth matters a lot. We’ll see what this new roster can do.
And I’ve agreed all along you’re the team to beat, which is why I’m glad you’ve shed a few players so we can have a chance!
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 13, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
For me it starts with
Win the Division As long as you do that you’ve got a top 3 seed. There’s no reason why the Hawks can’t do that
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
Philly made the finals as an 8th seed. Winning the division isn’t worth the wear and tear of a team that can’t afford injuries.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 13, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
*7th
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
and weren't they the lowest seed ever to do that?
sorry Beans, that argument sucks. Especially when I think: what team can afford injuries? That’s just silly.
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
Well no team wants injuries, but a team with more depth can survive them better. We had a ridiculous amount of man-games lost last year to injuries, but had pretty decent depth, and thus managed to win our division. And then you stomped us… but i digress.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 13, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
this
I understand, but don’t agree with people who complain when players don’t give 100% for 82 games. You have to have some room to put in that extra effort when the going gets tough. I prefer a player who plays okay (but preferably consistently/reliably) but steps up in the playoffs to one who plays so hard in a meaningless game that he gets hurt.
Don't want to start the whole bandwagon thing again, but......
I think there will be a lot of, shall we call them “casual”, fans that came late to the party this year that will be thinking a repeat is expected and the only acceptable outcome for next season.
Obviously, knowledgeable sports fans know that repeating as champion in any sport is very difficult indeed. This segment of Hawk fandom (which I think includes the majority of SCHers) will be, I dare say, satisfied with a competitive team that makes the playoffs and represents well once there.
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
Repeat the toughtest Championship in Sports
IMO is the hardest thing to do. When losing players, youngsters and all the intangibles that go into a season. I say get to the playoffs and anything can happen. It’s a long 82+ season. You never know “are we a good road team this year” or are we going to have any injuries. It’s how you overcome the adversity and I feel with Q behind the bench and the Captain and Alternates we have shown we can overcome it. Just bring on pre-season please
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good point
I’m very sensitive to booing, and I still shrug in disbelief from the booing last year (Huey, Campbell, Niemi, Sopel, PP). Um, Stanley Cup, yo.
A rough patch early, and it could be unbearable at the UC. I dread the thought.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
I will breathe easier when
I see number 10 in that first preseason game
by SergeiKrivokrasov25 on Jul 13, 2010 2:38 PM CDT reply actions
If it doesn't have one or more of the following words/phrases:
-“LeBron”
-“NBA”
-“Strasburg”
-“Yankees”
-“World Cup”
-“Patriots”
-“Romo”
It will automatically be deleted. So, I wouldn’t bother.
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
You forgot:
-“Red Sox”
-“Favre”
-“Manny”
-“Tiger Woods”
-“Favre”
Also, any mention of “hockey” means an auto-delete, even if it mentions Favre four times.
And...
-“1908”
Yeah, I just died a little more inside.
by northernsails on Jul 14, 2010 1:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the post
now i have something to rub in the face of scum friends and family. yeah ill hit that low.
Harpoon a fat chick. Save a whale.
i'm with you all the way on this
the kings will be our biggest threat this year. and i have a serious man-crush on drew doughty…this kid can flat out play..not to mention break glass with slap shots…i see him as a perennial norris candidate from here on out….kovi will be good for the team, but i see him hurting them during the playoffs..
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
I'd like to see Kovy on LA for two reasons
1) He’ll hurt them in the playoffs as you state
2) He’ll lock up about 8mil/yr in salary so they’ll face a Capoclysm soon too
i used to think kovi was the younger version of hossa
but after seeing hossa’s two way play there’s no comparison…for a guy being pegged as a mercenary, hossa has no quit in him..kovi seems to fold when he doesn’t have the puck or is losing
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
by desertindian on Jul 13, 2010 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I honestly dont get the whole mercenary thing.
He wanted to win the Cup. By any means necessary. And if they want to compare him to LBJ…there is no comparison there either. Hossa’s not a jackass about his desire to win nor does he throw any of his former mates under the bus.
by northernsails on Jul 13, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
i think it was the 4 teams 4 years that gave him the title...correctly or not
but to be honest I hadn’t seem him play that much outside of the playoffs prior to coming to chicago..and now that he’s here I actually like the guy, and he seems to like chicago….but the people calling him a mercenary now are the same ones who said he was useless in the playoffs this year as well
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
by desertindian on Jul 13, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
but he was traded twice
so I don’t see how that’s really fair. Sens traded him to Atlanta, who later traded him to Pittsburgh. He chose a 1yr with Detroit, which he completed, then a multi-year with us.
I think it’s silly that people are all, HOW DARE THIS GUY WITH NO CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS MAKE A FREE MARKET DECISION?! DAMN YOU CAPITALISM.
But like you said, those people also said he was useless in the playoffs, so I guess we already know they’re mentally deficient.
the thing with LA (and Lombardi), though
is that they won’t do anything to jeopardize the future contract negotiations of who they’ve identified as their core. Kovalchuk hasn’t signed anywhere because he’s as stubborn in his demands as Lombardi is in the price he’s willing to pay for a free agent scorer.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
While I don't see Lombardi as making a Tallonesque Huet/Campbell deal
The fact they’ve walked away twice and come back to Kovy tells you they’re serious. Maybe it’s not 8 but I don’t see less than 6.5+, that’s stil more than 10% of the cap for years to come for a player who is still unproven come playoffs and/or when he’s not motivated
I'm not sold on the concept of "unproven come playoffs"
before this year, who among the Hawks was proven commodity come playoffs, really? Everyone who win the Cup was at one point or unproven. Marian Hossa was a curse before this year. Kovalchuk very well could be the same— it’s the fit that might be the biggest factor, or the perfect storm of rookies and veterans, etc etc.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I considered
most of our roster proven in the playoffs based on what they did in the 2008-2009 playoffs. Making the WCF with such a young roster was unthinkable to most earlier in the season. They proved to me that they had the metal and balls to compete with anyone in the post season.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark
which is exactly why
I think we’ll be ok this season. The “kids” that are filled in this year will be taught by the “vets.” on how things are done during the playoff hunt and the playoffs themselves.
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
Exactly
As long as we get to the playoffs (which I expect) we will be very competitive
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I'm gonna call it now
Jack Johnson might develop into a better D-man that Doughty. I’m in awe of that kid despite him being in DD’s shadow.
Couldn’t disagree more. Granted a few years development could lead in any direction. But I thought he sucked against us in round 1. Doughty was a monster.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 13, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
you can call it
but barring injury, I can’t possibly see how Jack Johnson could end up being better than Doughty.
Ditto for CNS
I watched Jack Johnsona t the U of M
And I don’t thin his defensive abilities will be anywhere near that of double Ds.
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by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Jul 13, 2010 4:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I watched him pretty extensively and met the guy
He’s a class act and a great guy. Has a ton of pride and loves Michigan.
But still, I don’t see him being considered above Doughty in 20 years. Who knows though.
JJ is a lot older.
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by red army line on Jul 13, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Why does this fucking rumour persist
Go look at the stats. How is Kovy’s 6 points (2 G’s 4 A’s) in 5 games in 2010 with a good team hurting the team? he played 0 even hockey.
and teams can take 1 player out of the game, that’s what they did when he was in Atlanta… gameplan on taking him out.
Only 1 thing would make this post better
If you were able to add we’ve traded Huet. I know I know about the options..minors or Europe…but until I DON’T see him in the preseason I can’t rest easy
#19
Id like to believe they answer to Toews, but I’m not really all that confident he drops the hammer. Especially on Kane.
Plus how is he supposed to deal with Kane when Kyle Beach is running wild?
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
THE STACHE drops the hammer
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 13, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
wait
I thought we matched SJ’s offer! What do you mean Q got rid of #4?!?
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
"hammer" not Hjammer
As in Q teaching Beach in the school of hard knocks classroom.
You can make things happen, watch things happen or wonder what the hell happened.
by Timothy Fisher on Jul 13, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure Johnny Lava was being sarcastic
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
where's ahnfire with that sarcasm button
her’s seems to be the only one working today
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
I think a lot of the unease comes from the fact ...
there are still so many holes in the roster. It’s hard to feel at ease until you see some name plugged in there and convince yourself “Yeah, Ty Jones is ready to come up and have a good year.” I think I’ll feel a lot better when I can see the entire line-up and hear the flattering info sheets on all the prospects..
by Billy Charlesbois on Jul 13, 2010 2:56 PM CDT reply actions
I think we feel so much uneasy
because we were spoiled with such a deep roster last season. Having such a deep roster is an unrealistic expectation in an NHL with a hard cap. We don’t have any more “holes” in our roster than any of the other teams Sam identified above. The perceived holes are a result of the lack of holes we had last year.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark
So what you're saying is it's all an illusion ...
yeah … I can dig it.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jul 13, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I like a logical analysis of the issue
This happens to every team. Keep your core, move role players as necessary
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I'm with you on the use of logic
Emotion just tends to cloud issues
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Thanks, Sam
while not having been out on a ledge, I also needed reassurance. Mission accomplished.
It's a game of redeeming features. ~ Bob Murphy
Thanks Sam
Again, our guys are still getting better
i like the post, and regardless of how much danger we think we're in for next year
we still have the best shot at a title out of all the chicago teams again come next year (minus the sox, but who really watches em anyways)
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
We are closer than any team.
In the NHL there are about 5 teams that I think can give the Hawks a good run in the playoffs next season…..2 of them reside in the East..
The Bears won make the playoffs barring some kind of miracle.
The Cubs….hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha….
The Bulls are better but Boston and Miami will murder them come playoff time…..
The Sox are the only other team this city can be proud of but Bos-NYY-TB will probably be too much for them in a playoff series.
Thank God for the Chicago Blackhawks.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
are you high?
Miami?? They have 3 players on their team occupying what? 85% of their payroll. The rest of their team will be composed of the equivalent of Luther Head and Dickie Simpkins. In other words, nothing. They’ll have the same result as Cleveland did while LBJ was there.
by northernsails on Jul 13, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I wish…are you serious though? Who isnt picking Miami for the next decade?
Basketball is not hockey. You dont need all that depth in the NBA and those guys can run up the score and sit out the second half of most these games.
I wouldnt even be surprised if they challenged the Bulls 72 wins.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
Basketball is not hockey, this is true
but it’s also not that extreme. They have 3 guys with ridiculous contracts, only one of whom plays defense at all. They also dont have a center at all. What happens when they play the Magic? Or the Blazers?
by northernsails on Jul 13, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I dont think Miami is all that worried about playing the Blazers. You may be right about the Magic. I wont hold myself out as any kind of NBA expert but how can a team with that much talent not win several championships?
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
My point was
when the heat face a team with a big man that can score, they will be helpless.
by northernsails on Jul 13, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
dont worry
they are gonna sign ilgauskas, then they will really be unstoppable, haha
Is there a doctor in the house?
Can a person burst his spleen from containing laughter?
by northernsails on Jul 13, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
The Bulls never had a great center for their run
Miami’s role players aren’t that bad. I don’t really know how it’ll pan out (maybe I’ve given myself over to hockey now so I don’t know jack about basketball) but I don’t think it’s really clear cut either way.
this feels
like a more enlightened version of Blog-a-Bull
??
Bill Cartwright wasn’t a great big man??
It’s a completely different time than it was back then. Big Bill did exactly what decent centers did back then: defend the post and rebound, with a healthy helping of elbows tossed in for good measure.
by northernsails on Jul 14, 2010 1:50 AM CDT up reply actions
/GASP!
how dare you? I loves me some Luther Head
…that sounds wrong.
[Tornado] sirens just went off...I grabbed another beer.
Those 5 game series are tricky though
You get Buehrle, Danks and Garcia or Floyd all throwing one great game and it’s on to the ALCS
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
….just imagine if we had Peavy too….
I really hope the Sox recent success continues. It would give certainly give us something to do over the long summer before the Bears begin to piss us off to no end….
19-88-81-2-7-10-36 : The Hawks
I'm not much of a baseball fan
but I’d be very surprised if the Sox don’t add another big time arm to the rotation in the second half.
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
A Sox postseason run
would take us right up to pre-season. Life is good.
"I'll keep it short and sweet: Family. Religion. Friendship. These are the three demons you must slay if you wish to succeed in business."
The Sox dont have a lot to give up for a big time arm
Some people want Oswalt. He didnt want to come to the Sox last season and frankly Id like to see him whither away in Houston.
19-88-81-2-7-10-36 : The Hawks
Don't think they'll have to give a lot.
Good players can come fairly cheap when the fire sales start.
(Maybe this would be blasphemous to some but I think Lilly could help the Sox tremendously, and would come pretty cheap I suspect. Not sure how hard core Sox fans feel about ex-Cubs on the team though.)
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
George Bell
I don’t remember Bell being slammed for comming from the Cubs, not to mention Kessinger being made the Manager.
You can make things happen, watch things happen or wonder what the hell happened.
by Timothy Fisher on Jul 14, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
And Santo
You can make things happen, watch things happen or wonder what the hell happened.
by Timothy Fisher on Jul 14, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
The fans didn't rip on Bell
He had a couple of good seasons with the Sox. The only complaints I heard were at management because the Cubs got Sosa in this deal.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Im a hardcore fan
I’d happily take lilly
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 14, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
a lot of us care more about winning
than the crosstown rivalry. I would be pissed if it was Zambrano, but that is because I think he is a shithead
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 14, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't get the Cubs/Sox rivalry
I mean, I can understand it when there are 2 teams playing the same sport in the same city (See: Rangers & Celtic, Man U, Man City, etc.) but aren’t you in different leagues? Or was this not always the case?
different leagues
but we both hadnt won for a long time, and with the advent of interleague play, all we had to fight over was city supremacy. The Sox have always been the second team in the second city, so we have a bit of a chip on our shoulders
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 14, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Ah, that kind of makes sense
I knew the Cubs hadn’t won in ages, but I didn’t know the Sox had been waiting since 1917. Wow.
Yeah, we dont care as much since 05
i still enjoy beating them just so they shut the fuck up though
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 14, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Never!
Having won 25 outta 30, I expect the great Sox fans to start showing up again.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jul 14, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
There is also the
Northside/Southside thing. While it is one big ass city. The northside and the southside are completly different.The Cubs are the Northsiders and the Sox are the Southsiders. And while I was born and raised on the southside I consider myself a Cubs fan. BUUUUUUUT I do follow the Sox and root for them too. Just not against the Cubbies. Most southsiders consider this treason.
You can make things happen, watch things happen or wonder what the hell happened.
by Timothy Fisher on Jul 14, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
and also the differences in the fan bases
b/c there’s such a huge demographic difference between the northside and southside. while this isn’t true across the board, the north side is generally more affluent, the south side not as much — and the differences were historically reflected in the fanbases (exceptions: Hyde Park and Beverly on the southside, northwest neighborhoods like Humboldt Park, etc).
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 14, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
and I
don’t get haggis.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jul 14, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I've tried haggis.
It’s beyond disgusting.
by Katherine215 on Jul 14, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Mmmm....
What could be tastier than animal organs stuffed in a Sheep’s stomach bag?
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Actually
other than dropping dead from clogged arteries, it doesn’t sound that bad. I ran across this recipe on your link.
Just the name sounds more painful than what happened to Sami Salo.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
The Trib has a story posted about great things to eat in Chicago. One of them is bacon, dipped in batter and deep-fried, then served with a spicy mayo dip.
That sound was my arteries slamming shut!
Our Cup.
Agreed
Once you’ve had real Canadian bacon, you’ll never go back. Those folks know how to do breakfast up there, no question.
Definitely
not the same thing. Their “American” type bacon is better than the stuff we get here as well.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Agreed x 2

Best Bacon Ever.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
It's either Peameal or Cornmeal
The bacon is covered in it right after it’s cured.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
i've had both
bad versions of both AND decent versions of both. But i can only take the good stuff in small portions.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 14, 2010 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions
No, Lilly is too awesome
for the Sox. I’m sorry, he stays on the north side.
by Katherine215 on Jul 14, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
For what purpose?
Nothing going on on the North Side.
by stanfordron on Jul 14, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
bingo
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 14, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
because I like him
and I’m a Cubs fan, so I want him to stay. Aren’t those good enough reasons? :)
by Katherine215 on Jul 14, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Paraphrasing my Bubbe,
from your keyboard to God’s ears
you're a good boychickle
speaking the mama loshen
by northernsails on Jul 13, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
The Bears
haven’t stopped pissing me off for 2 years
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
So…I was being serious about Nashville being much better than last year, you guys.
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You guys havent moved yet?
Thats great man….keep it up.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
by HjammerTime on Jul 13, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
djsdsgisduhgsdjlkg
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by Chris Burton on Jul 13, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
did someone say trap?
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 13, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Fuck you, BigC. ;)
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by Chris Burton on Jul 13, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Ba
Zing.
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
guys? guys? //feet-shuffling
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
ITS GENERIC, CHI. YOU KNOW, LIKE IF SOMEONE SAYS ‘ITS US AGAINST THE WORLD’, THEY DON’T ACTUALLY MEAN THE WHOLE FUCKING WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Chris Burton on Jul 13, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
oh, that was me, doing my best Chris Burton impression.
It’s just so goshdarn adorable in its earnestness!
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I like you OTF
You’re a good guy, stick around please.
by Fightin Werds on Jul 13, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Bueller? Bueller?
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark
No, I actually can make the case that this is so if you’d like to hear it.
I’m fully convinced we’d whoop yo ass in a 7 game series with both our current rosters.
/refills crack pipe
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by Chris Burton on Jul 13, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, can we have Rinne
Huet for Rinne, sounds fair right? Right?
/drops three more hits of blotter acid
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 13, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha. We’ll throw in Weber, too so the salaries match.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 13, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
We’ll take Jordan Hendry to replace Weber.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 13, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I like the way you do business
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 13, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
About like Glen Sather, eh?
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by Chris Burton on Jul 13, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
bingo
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 13, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Have a prehistoric fighter who can’t skate, shoot, pass, or score? Sign me up!
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by Chris Burton on Jul 13, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
No, Don Waddell. Sather is more of an FA guy
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матовая Клими, Михал нуивирт ваш папа теперь
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by red army line on Jul 13, 2010 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
well, we always like hearing your drunken ramblings
your drugged-up ramblings should be just as interesting :D
While I was joking about being able to ‘whoop yo ass’ in a series, we’re significantly better than last year.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 13, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
right, guys? guys? //tumble-weed
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
lets see if I can do this quickly
Lose Dan Hamhuis and Dan Ellis.
Acquired Ryan Parent, Sergei Kostitsyn, Matt Halischuk, 2nd round pick, Matthew Lombardi, and an extra $1m in cap space for Jason Arnott.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 13, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
aww, Ellis is so hilarious though
He tweeted about his brother holding a knife like a scalpel because he was a brain surgeon and Sullivan shot back with “Oh, so that’s why there was nothing left for you!”
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, he’s hysterical. Great guy, sad to see him go, such is the biz.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 13, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
tru dat
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
i live in Ft. Campbell
Saw the Predators beat the avalanche the night before i deployed. They are a decent team they just didn’t have the speed to keep up with the Hawks I’m not sure if they will be able to this year but i agree they will be better just not the best.
"Hey Sedin, your brother's ugly!"
really? Parent?
and I don’t know much about the other guys. Kostitsyn was suspended twice by his team wasn’t he? Lombardi doesn’t seem bad, but Halischuk doesn’t seem very impressive to me…
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On Parent - he was drafted by Nashville in 2003, never really given a shot here and was traded for the Peter Forsberg poo-poo platter. Poile and Trotz really like his potential, and he’s cheap. He won’t be expected to do anything more than play 6D, and he’s fine for that. Jonathan Blum is NHL-ready this year. Blum’s AHL coach said he’s much better than Weber was at this point in his career, so our D is set.
On Kostitsyn - he’s immensely talented. YouTube some highlights if you want, but in terms of just raw skill, he’s probably the best forward on the team. He has work ethic issues, yeah, but at 550k those can be overlooked. With a one year deal, he has to work his ass off for us or he’ll likely not play in the NHL again. Its a win-win.
Lombardi – has Nashville Predators written all over him. One of the league’s fastest skaters, great on defense, and a 60 point scorer. He’ll anchor the top line until Colin Wilson is totally ready. Good signing.
Halischuk – AHLer, probably. No room in the inn.
Jonas Andersson – power play specialist; our 2nd rounder from 1999. 30 goal scorer in Sweden, brought over on the cheap for some goals.
Anyway, here’s how we look:
Hornqvist/Lombardi/Erat
Sullivan/Wilson/Dumont
Andersson/Legwand/Kostitsyn
Tootoo/Goc/O’Reilly
Spaling, Smithson, Geoffrion, Thuresson, Belak
Weber/Suter
Klein/Bouillon
Franson/Parent
Blum
Rinne
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by Chris Burton on Jul 13, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
hmmm...interesting
the offense was really where i was curious to hear what you would say. I’m actually kind of curious now to see how Legwand/Kostitsyn work out.
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by puppetmasterp on Jul 13, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I think its obvious our forwards have more ‘oomph’ than last year. Arnott took shifts off and got hurt. Lombardi’s just as productive, but faster and works harder. Kostitsyn has something to prove, as does Andersson.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 13, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Wilson, in short, is Joe Thornton with manhood. Reminds me of him to a t, except doesn’t take shit and comes through in the clutch.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 13, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
That’s a nice way of describing him. Lofty shoes re point-amassing, no doubt, but Joe’s manhood come April and May has certainly looked very toddler-like.
Just so you know, though: this is the last time I officially admit my favor for him. From here on out he sucks shit, skates like a tyke, and is pure locker-room cancer.
www.mjt.org
Fair enough. From here on out, he haunts Dave Bolland’s every dream and makes him wish he was back in diapers with not a care in the world.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 13, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Before Thornton goes to sleep
he checks under his bed for Dave Bolland
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m talking about Wilson scaring shit out of Dave from here on out, dearie.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 13, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm ignoring your reality
and offering you mine, sugartits.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Aww <3
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by Chris Burton on Jul 13, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
<3 you too lol
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
LEAVE US ALONE
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by Chris Burton on Jul 14, 2010 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
sounds like jealousy to me
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
I thought it was pretty funny
you’ve been dyin’ to post this, basically asking someone to ask you…
…tmbleweeds, snarky comments from chi…
finally, you just went and dun it. I knew you would.
Nice team.
/pats head
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
Thanks pal. Yesterday was an awfully slow day. I was even out of beer!
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by Chris Burton on Jul 14, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
We clearly haven't fully converted you
If you were a true SCHer, you’d have back-up whisky/cider/wine/rum/liquors/hobo juice.
I’m like a surrogate-SCHer. YOU PEOPLE STILL MAKE FUN OF ME!!!!!!!
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by Chris Burton on Jul 14, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
after your playoff whoring
i’m watching you.
Hey, at least chi isn’t booing you down anymore.
Also, I love the new sig. You, sir, are doing God’s work.
Finally, I find the whole “Predator/Rodney Dangerfield” meme amusing,
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
My playoff whoring?!? How dare you refer to Christ Burton as a whore.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 14, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
so now you are our Buddy Christ?
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
Christ Burton?
bit full of yourself, aren’t you?
Also, Chris, I bet you can get 5 recs if you post that .gif of Carcillo hitting Carter.
Nah; thats a longstanding nickname I did not have anything to do with. Bit of a meme on SBN.
I have an endless supply of rec’able .gifs; hmmm….see what I can do.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 14, 2010 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I say we go down to Nashville
and nail him to a cross. If he comes back in time for Opening night, we’ll call him Christ.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
by cdz3210 on Jul 14, 2010 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
If you're going to try that
…better bring a boat.
TA-DA

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by Chris Burton on Jul 14, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 12 recs
whore
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 14, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
He really is.
but I love this gif, so it’s ok.
by Katherine215 on Jul 14, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
At this point, I’m just doing it to pull y’all’s respective chains. And besides, all my .gifs are good ones. They involve the shit getting beat out of a Red Wing, Kesler, and Carcillo or Team Canada making themselves look ridiculous.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 14, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
dont show Hawks61 the canada one
he still calls me “Silver”
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 14, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Fuck Canada. With a cattle prod.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 14, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey hey hey. Some us will take umbrage to that kind of talk. Unless by “Canada” you’re talking about a girl, and by “cattle prod” you mean a normal natural penis.
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by ChicoMaki on Jul 14, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd rec this if I weren't on my phone
speaking of, I think I’ll go watch the game where USA chases Broduer from the net
Go jump in Toews Lake.
by shinkicker on Jul 14, 2010 2:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
giving us what we want
doesn’t make you less of a rec whore. In fact, isn’t that what whores are supposed to do???
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by puppetmasterp on Jul 14, 2010 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I will
be watching this replay for ever.
rec'd
but…
other angle, which shows Carter also lining up Kop, is more hysterical.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
I laugh my ass off everytime i see that
You can make things happen, watch things happen or wonder what the hell happened.
by Timothy Fisher on Jul 14, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey we just signed him for another year for a million bucks
They need Carcillo to protect the skill guys like new acquisition Jody Shelley.
Just because it’s a union doesn’t mean you HAVE to hire one guy who does nothing useful.
sigh
by flyersfaninchicago on Jul 14, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Good question
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by Chris Burton on Jul 14, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
wait, do you mean to tell me that you spent the day *sober*?
That’s it, I’m ripping up your honorary SCH membership card.
I am so disappointed in you Burton.
Nothing is a given
There is too much of next season yet for me to dismiss just about any team, and yes, that definately includes Nashville.
by Fightin Werds on Jul 13, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
no, no, I totally believe you
I just don’t know how to turn off my sarcasm button.
See? I can’t turn it off.
Can you make a picture a link? If you can, you should post that so there’s a link to a page that just says “Doofus” or something. (That has nothing to do with Chris, by the way.)
www.mjt.org
see I didn't break the sarcasm button earlier
I can have nice things!
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
Unless they've driven you to it already below
This SoCal air is making me slow… but please do! Comment, FanPost, OtF post ("why Nashville’s core is the best EVAR), I’d like to see it.
You really want Burton to do a fanpost?
How many times and different ways can he say Shea Weber rules?
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
But really, Shea Weber rulez and Dunkan Keeth droolz!!!!11
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by Chris Burton on Jul 13, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t think our core is better than Chicago’s. We don’t have a forward in the same stratosphere as Hossa, Toews, or Kane. But I do think our forwards are on par with St. Louis’, better than CBJ, and younger than Detoilet.
Our d is better than everyone. But you knew that ;).
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by Chris Burton on Jul 13, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
i just noticed your signature!
now it all makes sense.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Haha. Happily mixing blind homerism with fact since 2009 baby!
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by Chris Burton on Jul 13, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Better add that 2nd line to the sig
Blind homerism: 90%
Fact: 10%
:D
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Pshaw. I know you’re all terrified of the Preds now. Right? RIGHT?!
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by Chris Burton on Jul 13, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Terrified that Ryan Parent is allowed anywhere near Pekka Rinne's goal
Especially if I’m Pekka Rinne.
No not scared at all
//shakes in her boots and runs out of room to hide
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
you're welcome
anyone out there ever try Paul Mitchell’s Tea Tree shampoo? It literally tingles the scalp. Kind of like a menthol cigarette for the head.
last shampoo I used that did that
was Selsun Blue…and it wound up giving me dermatitis.
by northernsails on Jul 13, 2010 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m not sure why you included Sammuelsson on our core but not Salo. They’re both pretty important, both old-ish, and both have just 1 year left in their contracts.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 13, 2010 3:30 PM CDT reply actions
balls aside
I thought it was because Salo breaks. But that’s just me.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, all of our D breaks when faced with your O
That’s the problem!
:)
Still, I would say Salo is as important to our D, when healthy, as any of the other 4 you have there.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 13, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
how old is salo these days?
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
by desertindian on Jul 13, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Teeth
Mostly I just like Keith better, and the terror of what it meant in the game was way more.
Go jump in Toews Lake.
you can't answer this question shin
you have no balls. :|
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I was going to qualify my answer
but seriously, teeth. Euaghhh
Go jump in Toews Lake.
by shinkicker on Jul 14, 2010 7:50 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
the balls hurt many men across N. America...
but the teeth completely creeped me out. No Canadian prairie boy should ever have to talk after going through a similar experience again.
Unless it has already been mentioned
HockeyBuzz claims the Hawks have an offer on the table for Boynton but he is also considering retirement. They also claim Hawks are looking to sign Bickell to a multi-year deal.
"I'll keep it short and sweet: Family. Religion. Friendship. These are the three demons you must slay if you wish to succeed in business."
can't blame him
his face doesn’t hold up to punches like it used to
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
by desertindian on Jul 13, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I dont think Boynton can cut it for a whole season as Sopel’s replacement.
I do respect the guy a ton however. He stepped up for his teammates when called upon.
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Shouldn't No. 4
be part of your list now?
Now that's
a hellava list. I feel great about next year (and the year after and the year after . . .).
You still check that?
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by red army line on Jul 13, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
For what it’s worth, 3 of your ‘core’ players, Brouwer, Seabrook, Keith, are from British Columbia. God damn it.
Back in the 1950s, the Montreal Canadians had the rights to all players from the Province of Quebec. Maybe we should switch back to a system like that :)
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 13, 2010 4:17 PM CDT reply actions
Beach, by the way, also from BC. He looks to be a beast on the rise.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 13, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
hmmm....is that the dseperation of a Canuck fan i hear?
naw….couldn’t be that. never.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 13, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Beach is the Terminator
Destroys everything in his path. Just ask Olimb.
"I'll keep it short and sweet: Family. Religion. Friendship. These are the three demons you must slay if you wish to succeed in business."
yer darn right
tore him right from limb ’o limb.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I assume you're joking
More like the Least on the rise. But Nash is a good team, no question about it – scared the crap outta me in the playoffs, they almost pulled it off. Watching the rebroadcast of the pivotal “miracle” game 5 really showed how awesome Pecorini is, the guy faced something like a shot ratio of one for Nashville for every 4 Hawks on goal. Pretty much stood on his head, I don’t think he allowed one soft goal all series.
heh, I wondered who Pecorini was
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
me too! I’m thinking “who’s this Italian guy who plays for the Preds???” hahahahahaha.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 13, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I prefer butchering other team's player's names
Particularly if they’re French Canadian. Call it a quirk.
670 the score had a good song going on the Danny Mac show
during the 1st playoff round. They sang the goalies’ name to the tune of Macarana:
Peccc-ka-ree-na
It was funnier than shit, especially when Mac sounded a couple time like he pissed himself laughing so hard.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Jul 14, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Rinne let in the center-ice toss
by Seabs off of Kane’s skate. For the best pecorini in town, I suggest Tuacany.
"I'll keep it short and sweet: Family. Religion. Friendship. These are the three demons you must slay if you wish to succeed in business."
Brouwer isn't really a "core" player
not in my mind. He’s good, but he’s not irreplaceable
by northernsails on Jul 13, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, I’m just going by what Sam posted. His words, not mine.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 13, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Or maybe
you all should just jump on our bandwagon
Well I did cheer for you in the finals, does that count?
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 13, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Did you cheer for us
or just against Philly?
For you slash for the western conference. I’m indifferent to Philly but I HATE Pronger.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 13, 2010 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Had you not beaten us the round before and thus had I not spent two weeks crying and oblivious to the world, I might have cheered for you against SJ, too. I certainly predicted you would win easily.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 13, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember someone writing up a post
of geography-based teams from Canada. It wasn’t based on current NHL teams, but like. If Nova Scotia fielded a hockey team it’ll just be Sidney Crosby carrying the load, or something. Can’t figure out where it is now, of course.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Hell, we could have the following top 6 D if the Canucks could get all players from BC:
Keith-Seabrook
Weber-Neidermayer (if he unretires)
Mitchell-Hamhuis
Unfotunately the best we could muster in goal would be Carey Price. But I don’t think he’d be seeing a lot of shots!
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 13, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll always view
Keith as a Manitoba/Ontario kid.
He moved to BC before as a kid and that’s where he did his bantam/junior hockey. Proof is in puddibg: during his day with the cup he’s taking it to BC. Penticton, to be specific, a very good place for hockey.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 13, 2010 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, I see that more of proof as to where
his parents/siblings etc live than anything else, but I do remember reading that they moved to Penticton for reasons of hockey.
Go jump in Toews Lake.
yeah, i know...
but he’s a Manitoba product. British Columbia never took the prairie twang out of the boy.
You guys got Toews. Keith spent his formative years in BC. He’s ours!!!!
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 13, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Well…the Canadian Minnesota anyways.
Winnipeg Manitoba….the province just North of there…he played at South Dakota State right? The “Screaming Siouxs”?
He played high school hockey
In Minnesota.
as long as Seabs is resigned long term
I am happy.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Jul 13, 2010 4:23 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Money
Thanks Sam, for the rational thoughts. I agree that we’ll still be solid next year and that LA is pretty scary. The biggest issue when losing depth, as we’ve had to, is that injuries hit a lot harder when they occur. I still think the Hawks can be a top 4 seed, but they’ll need to stay healthy, especially during a playoff run. With a few guys (hossa, toews, campbell, bolland, ladd (in the playoffs)) missing time last year, we had no problems fighting through these injuries, hopefully we can avoid big injuries this year.
Ditto for CNS
This Website
This article right here sums up exactly why I love you guys. The media is going banana-balls on everyone, and today on the radio saying that if we had to let Niemi go, there is “NO WAY WE COULD PUT OUR TRUST IN A ROOKIE GOALIE FOR NEXT SEASON.” Now I may not be that big of a Corey Crawford fan, and would much rather have Niemi in net, however; didn’t we do this exact same thing last season with Niemi? Rookie goalie, behind a stacked defense, which we still have. I forget how that turned out, oh wait now I remember, because I’m still hungover. Chicago Sports writers suck, and you guys prove it.
hahahaha what?
is that really what they said?
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
ESPN 1000 earlier today. They were saying how Niemi “needs to be a part of the core now” and how trusting a bunch of rookies to fill in this team means this team is done….basically everything that this article shoots down. I think Sam may have just listened to ESPN 1000 this morning and got pissed like me, except he has a website.
Was that Jesse Rogers
on ESPN? If so, he’s letting his mancrush on Niemi turn him into a blithering idiot. Or maybe complete the turn into idiocy.
by Katherine215 on Jul 13, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
J-Rog
had a huge man-crush on Byfuglien, so Im sure the mind rot started once Buff was shipped out of town.
Ditto for CNS
well, Buff DID give Rogers a ride that one time
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions
ah shit, that's not what I meant
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
All his favorite guys are leaving
what’s a fanboy reporter to do?
by Katherine215 on Jul 13, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Another take on prospects camp
But its from the boss
Vancouver gets the Cup
The Toronto Globe and Mail reports: The Stanley Cup is making its way from Winnipeg, where Jonathan Toews was honored, to British Columbia this week.
Beginning Wednesday, five Hawks and former Hawks — Brent Seabrook (Tsawwassen), Duncan Keith (Penticton), Andrew Ladd (Maple Ridge), Troy Brouwer (North Delta) and Colin Fraser (Surrey) — will be taking the cherished hardware to their hometowns.
From the Trib
So those are the parade routes
BC have been planning for the past 2 years. It all makes sense now.
Just don't allow the parade to go through Gastown
Last time I was there (love Van), the place looked like Needle Park in Amsterdam. However, that was before the Olympics.
question
is that brutal for Canucks fans or not really?
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
No, we like all those players. We’re proud of them.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 13, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
cool :)
I really was curious.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Not really.
Personally, I like the local boys you have.
We feel a sense of pride.
At least I do.
Its pretty easy to separate the rivalry from the accomplishment.
I hear that Gillis is still going after Ladd now that he is a Thrasher.
So, maybe he can complete that trade soon and Ladd cna bring the Cup to his new dressing room!
;-)
And I lived in Gastown once. that part is fine. The part in the DTES close by is pretty bad though. Partly because we are trying this new thing of treating them like they are sick ( with a nreedle exchange shooting place. Only one in NA…responsible for over 300 OD’s and counting being saved.
The problem now is, they want us taxpayers to pay for them to live D/T…in some of NA’s most expensive real estate.
Its complicated!
I went to Vancouver once when I was about 12
Can you explain all the acronyms? DTES, D/T, NA?
by Katherine215 on Jul 13, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I may have to move to Vancouver
once our stay in nYc is worn over. I’d venture to guess that Americans that get their income from the U.S. don’t get taxed on income, right?
then again, my wife is dead set on Berlin right now. I’m not too keen on that since I’ll be working Chicago hours…
*meant to say...
I wouldn’t get double taxed on my income, would I? Since I would have to pay U.S. income taxes, would my American job get taxed in Canada if I lived there?
I wouldn’t know that…but Canada does like their taxes…I would assume they won’t make you double dip.
I know tourists can keep all the receipts and get back the value added taxes like the GST ( and now possibly HST ..sales taxes, general and harmonized province and Feds together )…and get the money back.
Sorry Katherine, the DTES is the downtown Eastside. Basically, more where the old original city was. Rife with drugs and crime ( but getting better )…and a healthy “street population” ( a long story for another day. Vancity has the big problem because its the only urban centre in the country where you can sleep outside without freezing in the winter…and gets a lot of the Easts’ problems )
As a result of all that and more, the homeless have a sense of entitlement in our fair city.
The system that is set up to help is overwhelmed by the number of homeless that migrate, and the above mentioned OD clinic tries to help, but is a hard sell to the law and order crowd that see it as supporting criminal activity.
Wow…sorry to go on and on. You didn’t need the long version. Its just as a long term resident of this beautiful city, I have watched it change…part of the problem with being a desired location I guess.
Most of us want to help people that need it, but get a little tired of being told “gimme more.”
Oh, duh.
should’ve caught that one. Thanks for the explanation.
by Katherine215 on Jul 14, 2010 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions
The city has changed a lot - too much growth
But as you said, it was unfortunately inevitable. First time I went there was back in the late 80’s, and was absolutely floored by all of it. Next two decades same deal, but last visit (2008) it was hardly recognizable. All those millionnaire condos and Euro Trash (pardon my Milbury) – hope they get a handle on things, it would be a real shame if the present trend continued.
Yes, Americans are taxed double
when they work/live abroad despite not earning their income on US soil.
They pay US income tax & FICA as well as whatever taxes their host country impose.
Canada has a tax treaty with the USA. So you would pay taxes in one country or the other, depending on source of income and where you reside. As a US citizen you would have to file taxes in the US no matter what, but you may just need to declare that you are being taxed in Canada under a particular treaty title.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 14, 2010 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions
That sucks
I know if we move to buenos aires, they don’t tax my u.s. Income.
Again, your US income will be either taxed in Canada or the US, but not both. There is a tax treaty.
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 14, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
i loved berlin
for the 2/3 days I was there. Your job sounds interesting, that it lets you work anywhere you want.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 13, 2010 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Lived in Germany
was just outside Frankfurt for 3 years while in the Army. Loved it. Very different from here. Hard to explain. Let me just say you can buy a beer in McDonalds, BUT the only pizza you’ll be able to stomach is from a Pizza Hut
You can make things happen, watch things happen or wonder what the hell happened.
by Timothy Fisher on Jul 13, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Berlin is one of our favorite places. The art scene is one of the most interesting I’ve seen; the parks are great; it’s got really good diversity of neighborhoods, cultures, and types of people; and it’s relatively cheap.
Agreed with Chi
I spent a few days in Berlin and Munich and loved both cities. Also fresh German beer is awesome. Especially when served by the liter.
Thanks for the caption
Ever since we signed Bon John Scott, I’ve been waiting for a good AC/DC reference.
The sun never sets on a badass
This my friends…

is the spitting image of Mr. Duncan Keith.
*I am very drunk…but this really isn’t Duncs right?
[Tornado] sirens just went off...I grabbed another beer.
Who else would that be?
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by HungryHungryPanda on Jul 14, 2010 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah it's him...he was the grand marshal at the nascar race in chicago this last weekend
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
by desertindian on Jul 14, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Like I said, *very drunk
the caption confused/is confusing the hell out of me…I must of missed something somewhere. I thought I was passed that point, but I guess SCH can still get me.
[Tornado] sirens just went off...I grabbed another beer.
Whoa, dude!
Bon Scott – John Scott
Brian Johnson – Kim Johnsson
It’s like that whole Lincoln-Kennedy thing. My head is spinning even faster than usual.
WWTD?
This is a bad omen
“Chelsea Dagger” is the music that accompanies the trailer for Dinner for Schmucks.
Beach?
Thoughts after watching the fight with the little Scandinavian guy? I think he’s a maroon on skates, but maybe we want to turn him loose on St. Louis and Van? Either that or send him away?
Holy Crap!
If he can skate and get minimum salary ...
I say tell him to get ready to play 8 minutes a night. His number of fights/stupid penalties ration can’t be any worse than Eager’s, right? Maybe he’ll actually manage to win a few of those fights along the way too.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jul 13, 2010 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
He's a decent fighter
And more skilled then Eager. His cap hit is over a mil though so I doubt we’d be seeing him on the line-up this year unless we move some salary.
Maybe I don't understand much about salaries in pro sports ...
but how does a prospect in the minors who hasn’t had a sip- forget a cup- of coffee in the big leagues get a contract that’s 2x the minimum average?
Well, if this guy is Daddy Warbucks lets find some other scholmo that Toews chew out when he runs into whoever is playing goal for us.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jul 14, 2010 1:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Here you go Billy…I find this site pretty informative.
The main phrase is " If the player was drafted, his maximum salary is based on the year he was drafted [provided he signs with the team holding his rights]; otherwise, it is based on the limits applicable to the prior Entry Draft at the time he signs. "Salary" includes signing bonus and games played bonuses. No player signing an ELC may receive bonuses other than games played, Exhibit 5, and signing bonuses. Exhibit 5 bonuses are limited to $2.85 million and are explained below. Signing bonuses are limited to 30% of the total compensation [excluding Exhibit 5 bonuses] for players drafted in 2004 and prior, and 10% for players drafted in 2005 and later. Terms for draft picks from 2004 and prior are fully explained in Exhibit 16 of the CBA and are a carryover from the prior CBA."
Top picks usually get around that, and can max out their bonuses if they are good enough to play those 10 NHL games and have their entry level deal become a Standard Player Contract.
So, with Beach, without seeing his contract, it is probably safe to assume that at least some of that number would be bonuses.
*Swoosh* (makes going over head motion)
So are you trying to say that we can’t afford to have this son of a Beach on the team next season?
Sorry about the pun, but it’s late and quite frankly you people don’t deserve any better.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jul 14, 2010 3:20 AM CDT up reply actions
you people?
LOL
You can’t afford him to play a whole season maybe. Unless he blows up and plays great.
You have those 10 games to decise.
And you can maybe delay some of his Cap to next year ( the bonus )…so if he does blow up an do well, there is some Cap flexibility.
It is late…what the hell am I still doing up…? damn bar hopping
we have more than 10 games. beach’s junior eligibility is over and he’s officially on his entry level contract. so he can play in the ahl or nhl and go back and forth without issue.
my guess is he starts in rockford and has to earn his way up.
If you look at the rules on ELC, the thing is, you can have him for however many games you want.
But if you play him 10 games this year in the NHL, he gets paid.
One year of the ELC eligibility goes too.
I don’t think I said anything about being in junior.
The whole thing has to do with your lousy Cap situation. If Kyle Beach plays 109 games next year in the NHL, his full 1.2 or whatever it is counts on the Cap.
I could care less about his "cap hit"
He’s either going to be a giant turd on the ice and make the team worse or he’s going to be a giant turd on the ice and make the team better. If he’s good enough to play in the NHL, he will play in the NHL.
My guess is that he is a good enough player, but will not amount to much more than Tuomo did, which is not that godawful bad.
Holy Crap!
"I think he’s a maroon on skates, "
from wat I have seen and read …he will make Eager look like a Professor. I not sure if this “focus” core group the Hawk have ,will tolerate a jack ass of this gigantic proportions
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
Good post
A couple of nitpicks:
a former Calder winner who’s going to challenge for Art Ross trophies right quick
I can’t say I agree. Kane is good but not that good. It will take off seasons from Crosby, Ovechkin, Backstrom, Malkin, Thornton, Stamkos and Tavares (I think) before that happens, among others.
So, our core is comprised of the Conn Smythe winner who will be a perennial Selke candidate and possibly Hart one too
Mighty tough to contend for the Hart when your linemate is challenging for the Ross ;)
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I don't see why it'd be difficult
you can be the most valuable person to your team without being the highest scorer in the league… oh wait, is this because you’re a Caps fan that you don’t understand this concept?
by ahnfire on Jul 13, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Well done
Go jump in Toews Lake.
by shinkicker on Jul 14, 2010 8:02 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
No…but imagine if in 2008-2009 Crosby hadn’t finished 3rd in scoring…might Malkin have won the Hart then? I’m saying that if your teammate is close to winning the Art Ross Trophy then it’s quite clear the guy has tons of value to your team, and that hurts the cases of everyone else on your team. I wasn’t passing judgement on who you think is the true MVP, but rather on who the voters will think is MVP.
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by red army line on Jul 14, 2010 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions
...
did…did you not see the big red button I left for you? :(
I went through all that work and you blatantly ignore the button & answered seriously…
:(
I just haven’t hung around here enough to get your sense of humor.
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by red army line on Jul 14, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
but he gave you a
button! Not “getting it” was a huge disservice to all who go through the hard work and trouble of making buttons.
Sorry. Even with the button, I don’t get the joke.
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by red army line on Jul 14, 2010 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions
In mother Russia
joke gets you.
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by HungryHungryPanda on Jul 15, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Tavares? Really?
And I don’t see why you think Kane can’t do it. Remember how Stamkos had 23 goals the season before he scored 51?
You could already see 40 and point per game in Stamkos after Tocchet took over in 2008-2009. I don’t see that in Kane. He’s not clearly the best offensive player in Chicago like Stamkos will be after St. Louis starts regressing.
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by red army line on Jul 14, 2010 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions
are you high??
He’s not clearly the best offensive player in Chicago like Stamkos will be after St. Louis starts regressing.
Kane led his team in Goals, Assists, and Points during the 09-10 regular season (his THIRD pro season, mind you) PLUS he is Mr. CLUTCH in the playoffs! He averaged over a point a game during the reg season and had 28pts in 22 playoff games (AGAIN averaging OVER A POINT per GAME!) Need i remind you of THIS or THIS? I don’t give a shit how many goals Stamkos scores (and i do think SS is a talented player). Remember the old adage, “Its less about quantity and more about QUALITY!” Kane is a superbly talented player who doesn’t need to score 50+ goals because he’s had a SOLID team around him who can ALSO score. We had 6 Players on our squad with 20+ goals during the 09-10 reg season. I mean, Hossa only played 57 reg season games and still averaged a goal every other game! The guy came back from major shoulder surgery and had 51pts in 57 games!
And if i may, its a whole lot easier to have 50 Goal scorers in the Eastern Conference than it is in the West, simply due to the higher quality D-Men and goalies in the West and a lack of stellar competition in The East. The East has less than a handful of teams with Superstars on them and the rest are all a joke. Yes, they’re all pros, but as a whole Conference, the Eastern Conference is a total joke.
Plus, to think that Toews won’t be competing for the Selke or Hart trophy next year and for years after is just ignorant. Have you seen him play? You know The STANLEY CUP CHAMPION CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS led the league in SHG last season AND in the playoffs, right? You do know that Toews is on our top PP AND top PK units, right? You know Toews very well may have had the single most stellar year of any professional hockey player to date, right? Olympic Gold Medal, voted Best Skater at the Olympics, Stanley Cup Champion, Conn Smythe Winner, broke Stan Makita’s playoff points record and tied Dennis Savard’s franchise playoff point record and hes only TWENTY TWO YEARS OLD!!!!
Ugh, whatever. Have fun in DC “rocking the red” and rooting for a perennial playoff disappointment.
LETS GO HAWKS!!!!!
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by Hawkynite! on Jul 14, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Um...
I understand what you’re saying, but I think RAL is kind of complimenting us. Is Patrick Kane miles ahead of, say, Marian Hossa? Not yet, but he will be after Hossa starts getting older (Hossa is 31, St. Louis is 35, so Stamkos will rule the roost sooner than Kaner).
Also, attacking the Caps was uncalled for; he’s talking solely about us, who he supports doesn’t matter.
by Germware on Jul 14, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I was thinking more of “Toews is quite good as well” but yeah, Hossa, Sharp, you have lots of good players but no super standouts.
By comparison Washington is deep up front yet you know there’s one standout, and that’s AO. (Backstrom’s Corsi suffers a lot without AO, AO has scored 50+ without Backstrom, so he’s not in the equation for me, at least with pure offense).
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by red army line on Jul 14, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not quite ready to call it a day
on either Hossa or Toews not being “super standouts”. In fact, Toews and Kane are FAR too young for you to make such a blanket judgment on either of them.
by northernsails on Jul 14, 2010 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
if Hossa's dogged defensive play as well as his fierce offensive pressure during his 3rd CONSECUTIVE CUP FINALS APPEANCE
ISN’T EVIDENCE ENOUGH that Marian Hossa is an ELITE HOCKEY PLAYER than i don’t know what else to point to.
Also, i do concede that the shot at Washington was a little uncalled for. please understand i felt protective of my team. if someone is going to call a STANLEY CUP WINNING GOAL SCORER out on my squad i want to be able to defend such accusations and aspersions. But im sorry for yelling at our guest.
Also, my point about Hossa and bringing up that he was basically operating at a 41 goal pace is to prove that Kane didn’t NEED to be the offensive power house this season to be intrinsic to his team WINNING since he was surrounded by teammates of all levels that could play fast, shutdown the opposition, score and win. but when you look at all the numbers, Patrick Kane WAS THE CATALYST for this team winning this past season. He played in every game and averaged over a point a game!
However, Kane is not only a precise goal scorer (how was THIS not up for Goal Of The Year???) but an incredible play maker. Since his rookie season, hockey analysts, bloggers, and Blackhawk homers alike were saying Patrick Kane is by far the best passer in the whole NHL and he is mearly 22, now. Patrick Kane is the real article and anyone who doesn’t believe me only need look at THIS and tell me I’m wrong.
Yet i concede; Patrick Kane is not an “elite” hockey player. But an ELITE Hockey player is what Kane is becoming because, for one, he has yet to even become of age to rent a car in Illinois and is playing with the aforementioned Mr. Hossa for the foreseeable future. Only this past season with Hossa playing with him (mind you only little over HALF a season, truthfully) Kane’s defensive game improved dramatically . I honestly believe that Patrick Kane will become a player like Pavel Datsyuk. A fast, smart play-maker who is defensively responsible and is known for making big plays in big moments.
I don’t want to argue with you folk (especially with all our Four Feather Faithful), but this entire post from Sam is entitled “My Core is Better Than Your Core. My Core’s Better Than Yours”. So i’m being a little cocky about it. get over it. we won LORD STANLEY’S CUP for crying out loud and our GOOD Players were GREAT this season. I don’t see any reason to not have faith in the skill and desire to win that is in THIS Chicago Blackhawk squad. I am very excited about next season. Its time for Capt’n Serious and The Good Doctor to saddle up because in 3 months, its time to GO TO PLAID!
LETS GO HAWKS!!!!!
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by Hawkynite! on Jul 15, 2010 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think Kane is improving defensively
but it’ll be a miracle if he ever wins a selke (much less multiple selkes), as datsyuk has.
Ditto for CNS
RIGHT NOW I don’t see it, sorry. I wasn’t talking about the future at all. My point on Stamkos is that he kind of already stands out at a younger age. If Kane and Stamkos develop at the same pace from here on out Stamkos will be putting up more points every season (it doesn’t help Kane that generally wings score less points than centers).
Since his rookie season, hockey analysts, bloggers, and Blackhawk homers alike were saying Patrick Kane is by far the best passer in the whole NHL
I have never heard this before. This was always Thornton, Savard, Crosby, Malkin, and I even heard Brad Richards. Never Kane, and I honestly kind of doubt any good hockey analyst I’d trust said Kane was the best passer in hockey, by far. Link?
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by red army line on Jul 15, 2010 6:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Ed Olczyk
said on a broadcast this year that he thought kane was 1 of the top 5 passers in the NHL.
I asked him on a chat who he’d include in the 5 (with Kane), and he went with Crosby, Thornton, Backstrom, and Datsyuk (in no particular order).
You could probably give me a good assessment of backstrom being on that list.
Ditto for CNS
Olczyck I can’t trust, sorry. Hawks and Pens homer (especially Pens).
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by red army line on Jul 15, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
that's the solid analysis I was looking for
I didn’t say that because Olczyk said it, it’s gospel, but dude does watch a lot of hockey and knows the game. Numbers wise, Kane really doesn’t compare to the other 4 (5 if you include H. Sedin).
As far as difficulty of assists, it’d be tough for anyone to assess that many players, I’ve seen Kane make some ridiculous passes, so there’s definitely a bias in a blackhawk fan evaluating his game.
Ditto for CNS
he wasn't very homer-y
homer-ish…home-…ey…that works.
He wasn’t very homey in the SCF. I thought he was very astute in his hockey knowledge and fairly impartial.
by northernsails on Jul 15, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Lve those two
THISs
"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."
Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010
When the people voting for the Hart have their Come-to-Jesus moments and realize that hockey value is about increasing goal differential, rather than pure offensive stats, then Toews will be an annual nominee for MVP. Until that point, he’s not going to put up the counting stats that most of the beat-writers with ballots look for – he’s not that kind of player.
"Its less about quantity and more about QUALITY!"
If you’re going to make that argument, why point out that Kane leads the team in goals, assists and points, followed by pointing out Marian Hossa scoring at a 41 goal pace?
And if i may, its a whole lot easier to have 50 Goal scorers in the Eastern Conference than it is in the West, simply due to the higher quality D-Men and goalies in the West and a lack of stellar competition in The East.
Unquestionably true, but let me point something out -
Stamkos – 1st overall, 51 goals, pure goal scorer.
Kane – 1st overall, 31 goals, playmaker
Sidney Crosby – 1st overall, 51 goals, does everything offensively
Alex Ovechkin – 1st overall, 50 goals, power forward
Rick Nash – 1st overall, 33 goals in a down year; recent competitor for Richard, power forward
Ilya Kovalchuk – 1st overall, 41 goals, sniper.
It’s pretty fair to say that the goal scorers mentioned here were all identified very early as high-talent players. Of that group, Kane is the only one that doesn’t project as a potential 50 goal guy with his style; it’s as much setting guys up as it is scoring. Note also that while the EC is weaker defensively, because they have so many terrible teams, they get a disproportionate number of the #1 overall picks. It’s a double effect – ultra talented players drafted first overall combined with weaker competition makes a 50g guy much more likely.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jul 14, 2010 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Furthermore
the counting stats that most of the beat-writers with ballots look for
I don’t have an issue with Toews for Hart—that’s not what I said. I don’t think Toews for Hart AND Kane for Ross work together at the same time.
I really didn’t think anyone would disagree on that last point.
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by red army line on Jul 14, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
you should probably have said that bit early on
added with the whole notion that most Hart winners also won the Art Ross trophy when they won. I’m not sure if many have been keeping track of that correlation (~EASTERN BIAS CONSPIRACY TIN FOIL HAT~) around these parts.
Or yes, they could have, but just felt contrary?
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 14, 2010 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I did, people took it the wrong way
Mighty tough to contend for the Hart when your linemate is challenging for the Ross ;)
Notice the smiley? Winking since we both know your team is too good.
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by red army line on Jul 15, 2010 6:41 AM CDT up reply actions
You didn’t, but notice all those long green ranty posts that actually agree with what I said? ;) :P
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by red army line on Jul 15, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t have anything to back me up, but I bet that in the East you see more power vs power with less onus on top offensive lines to be defensively solid (Richards line and Parise lines the only exceptions off the top of my head) while in the West you tend to see power vs checking and defensively solid lines all around, and more even TOI distribution.
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by red army line on Jul 14, 2010 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
this'd be interesting to watch
next season when I have my shiny new Game Center Live thing to play with and watch other teams on!
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 14, 2010 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
…Versus and NBC love the East?
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by red army line on Jul 15, 2010 6:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Tavares? Really?
Hey, the guy broke Gretzky’s scoring records in the OHL, so he’s really good. I don’t know how he’ll turn out. While 120 points would surprise me, 100 would not.
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by red army line on Jul 14, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
All 7 of those guys
must have had an off year since Henrik Sedin ended up with the Hart & Ross trophy.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
among others
I’m not sold on Sedin…yet. I don’t know if he can replicate that performance next year.
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by red army line on Jul 14, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I just noticed the "among others"
and no offense but besides Thornton all of the players pointed out are from the East. Even Thornton played 7 plus seasons with Boston.
As for Kane and scoring 40 and point per game, he’s 10 goals away from achieving that and he’s more than skilled enough to do it.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Actually, it is “offense” ;) Easier to put up big numbers in the East, for various reasons. I’m not sure why/if that’s an issue.
And as for 40, point per game—Stamkos showed us he was more than capable in his rookie year. I think Kane can too, but look—SS is already a proven 50 goal guy and a year or so younger.
Kane’s good, but everything has to fall into place for him to contend for the Ross. Toews for Hart I can buy a lot more.
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by red army line on Jul 14, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Haha "Offense" - I get it.
Anyway, I agree somewhat about Kane and the difficulty that he would have winning the Ross right now.
I hope the following makes sense, I think the numbers are bigger in the East because there are some very gifted scorers playing against more inferior teams.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
I think the numbers are bigger in the East because there are some very gifted scorers playing against more inferior teams.
This is an interesting point and one I agree with. It is a helluva lot easier for Kovalchuk and Ovechkin to score 50 goals against Andy Sutton and Wade Redden than it is or is going to be for Patrick Kane to win the Art Ross playing against Shea Weber, Ryan Suter, Drew Doughty, Jack Johnson, Erik Johnson, Nick Lidstrom, Brian Rafalski, etc. every night.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 14, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
In one sense Kane's lucky
that he doesn’t have to go up against Keith and Seabrook (Yes, they are the best “D” pairing in the NHL)
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
I disagree, but thats neither here nor there. ;)
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by Chris Burton on Jul 14, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
c'mon
Suter over Seebs? Sounds like no beer in the fridge isn’t today’s problem.
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He's a few cans short of a six pack
If he believes that
Go jump in Toews Lake.
by shinkicker on Jul 14, 2010 2:20 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Pretend I’m not a Preds fan for a moment. Lets say I cheer for the Islanders. I’d take Suter over Seabrook seven days a week and twice on Sundays, and thats no lie.
Its a much harder choice between Keith and Weber than Suter and Seabrook for me. Did you watch the Olympics? Suter was otherworldly. He’s like that every damn night in Nashville. He’s just so unnoticeable next to a 106mph shot and fists that make Red Wings’ brains bleed, literally.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 14, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I interpret this
as a roundabout insult to the intelligence of Islander fans.
very crafty.
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I admit to being crafty, but thats not the point. I’d bet $5 I can find more non-Hawks or Preds fans that would take Suter over Seabrook than the other way around.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 14, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
You'd probably lose the $5
Right or wrong, more people know about Seabrook than Suter. Nashville isn’t really recognized as a big hockey town.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
So far, I’ve found that people would choose Keith over Weber but Suter over Seabrook , unanimously.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 14, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
in addition
I’ve taken a Twitter poll, and thus far its 3-1 in favor of Suter.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 14, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm
Interesting.
If you take out Seebs play through the most of the regular season and part of the playoffs, I might agree. But Seebs was an absolute wrecking ball in the Finals when it mattered most, and call me crazy, but I’d like to see him and only him paired with Keith, anchoring the blue line for many, many more years to come. As far as I’m concerned, it’s a package deal.
Suter didn’t make the Finals, so that’s somewhat unfair.
I think we can agree that Weber makes Suter better and Keith makes Seabrook better; and breaking either pair up and swapping them around wouldn’t work as well.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 14, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
but citing Olympics is fair?
If Suter were Canadian, what would his chances of making the Olympics have been?
Think Ditka: “There’s your IQ right there buddy.”
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
I think Burton would argue
that Suter would’ve been picked over seabrook to make the canadian team
Ditto for CNS
I think both Seabrook & Suter
would have been chosen. Yzerman and Babcock were trying to keep sets of team mates together. Niedermayer, or Pronger would have been left off the team. They would have kept Boyle for the HTML line and Doughty because he’s Doughty.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
If Babcock had been willing to drop Doughty he would’ve been. Otherwise I doubt it.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 14, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Ugh? Care to elaborate?
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by Chris Burton on Jul 14, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
it's old
I might be the only one, but whoring yourself out to get our opinions on the Predators (a team most of us don’t care about) and lurking at every corner to talk about your Predators is a bit much.
Sorry if I sound like an ass. I’m just sick of having to wade past your Predator posts lately.
Having said that, I’m aware that there might be others who might like talking to you about your Preds. So please ignore me.
fair enough
But before today I hadn’t been around in quite some time.
At any rate, apologies for any bother. Lata.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 14, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
certainly
be a part. Not everything has to revolve around the Preds though. It’s a big league.
sure
Though they remain my area of expertise.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 14, 2010 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions
then shoot away
don’t let me ruin your fun. That’s not my intention.
I write for a Nashville blog; and I like it here. Thats all. :)
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by Chris Burton on Jul 14, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
He hangs out a lot at JR, and doesn’t always bring up the Preds.
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by red army line on Jul 14, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Didn't you see his sig?
Also I kind of give him a pass because the Preds do get underrepresented a lot because of the market they’re in.
Meh. He’s commented like 3000 times on JR. Easily, he talks a lot about not-the-Preds.
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by red army line on Jul 15, 2010 6:42 AM CDT up reply actions
i guessing this was directed at me?
I know who burton is. I like him on On the Forecheck.
I’m fine if he wants to talk Pred hockey, but I’m not a big fan for those who must actively seek validation for their team on other people’s blogs. I see the Vancouver bunch doing a swell job of talking hockey and their team on these pages. The outside perspective is fun.
But I digress. I don’t mean to pile on Chris. I just need to learn to ignore his Predator pride when it starts to enter the realm of overdone.
Isn't that his schtick though?
I mean, his Pred love is legit, but I always felt like he overdid things a bit for laughs. And the rec-whore thing has become a meme, hasn’t it?
by Katherine215 on Jul 15, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe that's so...
but regardless of what his intentions are, I just need to overlook it.
I shouldn’t be a downer.
I’ve definitely played it up for shits and giggles; after the whole ‘trap + me slamming my face on a keyboard’ bit.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 15, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
haha, I forgot about that.
well, I’ve enjoyed it, fwiw.
by Katherine215 on Jul 16, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, sometimes, but then again no one seems to realize how good Nashville, Trotz, Suter, Weber, Rinne, Nashville D prospects, Hornquist, Legwand, etc, actually are.
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by red army line on Jul 15, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
if you think we legitimately don't respect the Preds here
you haven’t lurked long enough. Especially after last year, there are far fewer posters here who underestimate them.
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by puppetmasterp on Jul 15, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm with Puppet on this
not many on these boards underestimate the Preds. It’s a well coached team, they have a giant goalie who’s good and the team is disciplined.
it’s just not an exciting team to watch play though. That first round series with them was a snoozer for the most part. There were some strange bounces and exciting plays, but the series bore the hell out of me in terms of style of play.
I also don’t think it’s a team that can get deep into the playoffs with the guys they have on offense.
That series also
scared the hell out of me too.
by Katherine215 on Jul 15, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I also don’t think it’s a team that can get deep into the playoffs with the guys they have on offense.
MEET MATTHEW LOMBARDI BITCHES.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 15, 2010 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions
unless you're in their division
and saw them in the playoffs last year.
this comment perfectly exemplifies the East Coast bias rampant in NHL coverage.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jul 16, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Duncan Keith is the best player out of that group, pretty much hands down.
I think you can make a pretty good case that Keith is carrying Seabrook – Biscuit is a great player and I’d take him on the Caps in a heartbeat, but check these out:
First, a little context:
Zone Starts, sorted by Offensive Start
Keith and Seabrook are basically identical.
Edge Biscuit, but Keith is right behind him.
Corsi QualTeam (By the way, these numbers are fucking absurd)
Edge Keith, Biscuit plays with the strongest teammates on the team.
Huge edge, Keith. Huge. The Hawks are +4.8 Corsi events per/60 for Keith being on and off the ice, compared with -4.8 for Seabrook. Keith blows him away.
I have to run to class, but you can do the same kind of comparison for Suter and Weber. If you do, you’ll find that they’re very similar to each other in just about every stat, much closer than Biscuit and Keith.
Keith and Biscuit bookend the Nashville pair in terms of quality and I’d argue that the two Preds are closer to Keith than Seabrook is to anyone in that trio.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jul 14, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
What he said.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 14, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
STAHLLLLL
BERRRRGGGGG
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
Also?
Sam can you let the Blackhawks know not to sign anyone with a T in their name? My computer keyboard AND phone keyboard now both have finnicky T keys.
I have been forced to refer to Toews him as “Cap’n” via text.
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
You could use 19?
Go jump in Toews Lake.
by shinkicker on Jul 14, 2010 9:03 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Try using the Alt and numerical keypad keys.
Hold down the Alt key and hit 84 on the numeric keypad on the right. T
Then hold down the Alt key and hit 116 on the numeric keypad on the right. t
double whoa
thought this was leg-pulling, but tried it anyway.
whoa.
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by cliffkoroll on Jul 14, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
nice! you found the way to enter characters in ASCII
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by desertindian on Jul 14, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Also can we please stop blaming the paper work
if the RFA mess from a year ago wouldn’t have happened the players would have signed qualifying offers. Those are 1 year deals so Barker, Versteeg, Eager, Brouwer, Aaron Johnson, and Colin Frasier would all have been free agents again this year. Sure most would have been RFAs again but I’m sure smart GMs would have tried to poach like the Sharks did with Hjammer. Also I believe most would have been arb. eligible. So either way the players would have been gone. I’m not saying its okay they messed up, but it didn’t lead to the cap problems of this summer.
Everyone has their sanctuary. The Catholics have churches, fat people have Wisconsin, and I have the United Center.
but if each of them were overpaid by, say, $1m
that’s $6m right there we could use to sign new people/renegotiate contracts, no? We might’ve been able to keep Steeger or Ladd. Or not worry about our seeming inability to sign a full roster at this moment.
And what the Sharks did is relatively rare. And if they were all RFAs, we’d get draft picks if someone offer-sheeted them, at least. It may not have lead to the cap problems, but it certainly didn’t help.
that 6 mil would be for the season that just finished.
And while what the Sharks did is rare, so is the situation the Hawks would have been in, and I’m sure other teams would have offered Steeg/Brouwer about 3 mil each.
As for the picks we would have got back, Barker got us Leddy (2009 first), Ladd got Vishnevskiy (former 1st), Steeg got Stalberg (Toronto’s 5th ranked prospect) Paradis (former 1st) and DeDomenico, Byfuglien/Eager got Morin (2009 second), Hayes (2010 first), and Reasoner. Also along the way they added 3 2nd rounders in 2010 and a second in 2011. The point being its not like the walked for nothing and I’d rather have guys who are closer to playing for us and have a bit more track record than 2011 draft picks
Everyone has their sanctuary. The Catholics have churches, fat people have Wisconsin, and I have the United Center.
And by the time they're any good ...
Cambell’s contract will expire and we can sign two of them.
Just jokes, just jokes. I’m being a downer I know.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jul 14, 2010 1:55 AM CDT up reply actions
As mentioned above
If the blackhawks could’ve saved 4 million off of last year’s cap, they’d have 4 million more for this year due to the bonus cushion cap carry-over from last year. So yes the RFA fiasco from last year has had a lasting effect and probably costed the Hawks a player or two. So I don’t see how you can say it wasn’t a big deal.
Also, the Hawks could’ve negotiated a longer deal with the players last year as RFAs. There is nothing to say they had to sign a 1 year qualifing offer last year.
Neimi's Agent
Nemo’s agent was on the Score this morning and is under the impression that if Nemo gets the Big $$ in arbitration, the Hawks will make another trade because " they can’t let the goalie who won you the Cup walk away"
You can make things happen, watch things happen or wonder what the hell happened.
Ugh
I know he’s pretty much solely responsible for Tallon bringing Niemi here, but I’m still really starting to hate that guy.
whoops, now THAT one I definitely sdrewed up
What do you expect
He’s an agent, he sees a big payday on the horizon, etc. Not sure about his bloviating negotiating strategy, though – kind of like Scott Boras without the facts to back him up. We’ll see.
Hell, I know why he's doing it
but hating agents is like hating lawyers, everyone does it (no offense to any lawyers on here, please don’t sue me for libel).
It's not libel if it's true!
Go jump in Toews Lake.
by shinkicker on Jul 14, 2010 10:14 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I knew I should of became an agent
I’m already use to people hating me, mine as well make the big money for it.
2009-2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Chicago Blackhawks
While we're on the subject of lawyers
I might as well slip this in here, because I probably won’t get another chance/won’t remember.
The famous case of Arkell vs. Pressdram (it looks like it isn’t worth reading, but it totally is, trust me; it’ll only take a minute).
I actually read it.
Didn’t even take a minute. It was predictably funny. I give it a horizontal thumb
Holy Crap!
i think i know where you learned that tidbit!
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 14, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
The First Amendment
gives you a lot of leeway in this type forum.
and
ahnfire, krome, and nush. And Beantown Canuck (if he sitcks around long enough to gain “regular” status)
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 14, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't
BigC a lawyer too?
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark
i didn't think so?
i thought he was thinking of going to law school but hadn’t decided yet. but i could be wrong.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 15, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
hahahaha but...
I was under the impression that most agents ARE lawyers. (Contract law?)
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 14, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
bloviate
love that word.
"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."
Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010
GAH!
/double facepalm…I know various forms of this have been shared, but…He’s played half a season and playoffs in front of perhaps the best defensive core in the whole fuckin’ league, and oh, almost forgot, one of the best puck-possession teams in the league too. That has kinda helped.
Don’t get me wrong, Niemi deserves a raise. A $3 mil per year raise for being not-the-man-from-France!? A thousand times, no. But, with the mindset still out there of ‘goalies win championships’, Zito has that ultimate bargaining chip – “My client was your goalie-horse you rode to the Stanley Cup!” And, well…he’s an agent. He’s the guy whispering in Antti’s ear, “remember, it’s not show-friends, it’s show-business…file for arbitration, we’ll, uh, I mean, you’ll win.”
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
What do you expect
He’s an agent, he sees a big payday on the horizon, etc. Not sure about his bloviating negotiating strategy, though – kind of like Scott Boras without the facts to back him up. We’ll see.
If the hawks lose to Niemi in arbitration and tell him no interest at that price.
Niemi then sees what other deals are available. Can the Hawks later make an offer if the others aren’t to Niemi’s liking?
"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."
Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010
The CBA just says he’s a UFA then. I didn’t read anything that suggested the Hawks weren’t eligible to sign him. But wouldn’t you think the relationship would be strained at that point?
by Beantown Canuck on Jul 14, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
It's too bad they're not broadcasting that arbitration ...
we could all take a drink every time Neimi’s agent says the word cup or championship.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jul 14, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I think I read they can't sign him
to less than 85% of the arbitration decision as a UFA. Of course, I also think I read that here, so it could be wrong!
by Katherine215 on Jul 14, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
On a related note
How many teams if any are still looking for a number one goalie? I assume Zito has to take into consideration the extent of interest among other teams in how he approaches his negotiations with the Hawks. If the hawks lose the arbitration and refuse to sign him he’s gotta be sure there are other teams that want to sign his client at more than what the Hawks were offering. Otherwise, winning the arbitration means nothing.
by hawkswin!hawkswin! on Jul 14, 2010 12:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
shit
just read yours after my post. Great minds think alike
by Chris Roberts on Jul 14, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Other rivals may grab Niemi just because they can
Sinc it appears that the long knives are out for this team right now, I wouldn’t put it past some D-bag to make this action. They could promise Niemi anything, but once he’s signed, hey, backup!
Too much conspiracy theory, IYAM.
"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."
Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010
It's good to be paranoid sometimes
…and you’re never alone if you’re schizophrenic. I keed.
Almost as criminally ignored as The Replacements
But then again I’m showing my age here – eh, who cares.
Just read
on Rotoworld that Zito wants to get a deal done before the arbitration hearing. I can only assume he wants this because he thinks they’ll lose the hearing and he can get more on the open market. I just don’t know how many teams are in the market for a goalie and Niemi would obviously want #1 money
i don't understand how a guy who seems as sheepish as niemi
signs with one of the biggest dick agents in the NHL?
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
by desertindian on Jul 14, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe he's a wolf in sheep's clothing
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
Its because Niemi cant understand a word the guys says. He just smiles-nods and gets paid.
19-88-81-2-7-10-36-4-51 : The Hawks
i bet Zito has 50% commission on niemi, and convinced him it was a great deal
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
by desertindian on Jul 14, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Makes sense to me
The old Good Cop/Bad cop thing, but in this instance Niemi just smiles and acts like he has no idea the kind of sh-t his agent is saying.
Interesting idea
Because scoring is down in games, instead of increasing net size, bevel the posts so the puck is deflected into the net, instead of out. Note: this is not my idea, link here.
Opinions?
completely hate
if you want to score, be a half inch more (insert dick joke) accurate
by Chris Roberts on Jul 14, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
All it takes is an extra half inch?
Whew! Now I don’t feel so inadequate.
(dick joke inserted.)
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
Improve scoring
Maybe they should just get rid of that hooped petticoat thing that the goalies wear these days…
I've been watching the "Raising the Cup" replays on NHL Network
the past week. The games have been from ‘74-’75 up to ‘80-’81 last night.
I swear it looks like the goalies are playing naked compared to the ginormous equipment they wear these days.
I don’t know how the hell they ever stopped anything. (I guess they didn’t based on the scoring numbers from that era.)
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
on an unrelated note
any word on the NHL ditching the trapezoid so D-men don’t get crushed?
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
by desertindian on Jul 14, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Kings comparison
What’s great about the kings situation(or scary, pending on your perspective) is that with Handzus and Williams finish their contracts at the perfect time, freeing up 7 million that they can use to lock up Doughty and Johnson next offseason. And considering that Doughty’s Cap hit is already about 3.5, he’s not going to require much of a raise, so you can allocate some of that money around to Simmonds and Johnson. And in two years Smyth’s underachieving 6 million a year ass comes of the books. Lombardi is the goods.
And you point out that the kings aren’t strong up the middle, well Brayden Schenn will be up soon, and by most accounts he’s one of the top prospects in the NHL, and just barely missed making the roster last year after camp. He’ll add some nice depth, and be a strong second line center for years to come.
You aptly point out that the hawks are still growing, so are the kings. They are young, quick, just the right amount of physical presence, and veteran leadership in Brown. Who like Toews, is a mad man on the ice and leads through his hard work on both ends of the rink. Toews has more offensive skill, and has a much higher potential, but Brown is not a bad option either.
If they don’t add kovy, which is a real option, then they can easily make a trade for a top two line forward with any number of blue-chip prospects in their system. And rumors today have them looking at Sharp.
All they need now is a competent coach.
sorry for all of the words…
"It takes brains. It's not like a forward, where you can get away with scoring and not play defense. On defense you have to be thinking." - Chris Chelios
You guys have been lusting
after Sharp for a while. He’s staying right here though. :)
by Katherine215 on Jul 14, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
You're probably right
But a man can dream right?
"It takes brains. It's not like a forward, where you can get away with scoring and not play defense. On defense you have to be thinking." - Chris Chelios
by crosscheckyou on Jul 14, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Found this pretty funny. oh, how rumors go.
Justin Bourne:
ESPN cited me as a source that “the Islanders might be interested in Patrick Sharp”. I was eating lunch and thought “I wonder if the Isles would have interst in Patrick Sharp”..Justin Bourne:
That’s the source on that.
I HATE this offseason BS. Sharp stays. or Hell is comin with me.
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
"Sharp stays. or Hell is comin with me."
Wyatt Earp/Kurt Russell likes this.
"It takes brains. It's not like a forward, where you can get away with scoring and not play defense. On defense you have to be thinking." - Chris Chelios
by crosscheckyou on Jul 14, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, a pretty good hockey article from ESPN!
Unfortunately, you have to be an “insider” to read it, but Alvin Chang’s piece on Niemi and how he has affected the current goalie market is definitely worth a read.
"I have only space enough to add: against the assault of desperate pandas nothing can stand."
-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)
by HungryHungryPanda on Jul 14, 2010 2:19 PM CDT reply actions
How about copy and pasting that mother?
I’d rather put my money in shredder than pay to become an ESPN insider.
I agree
I keep trying to cancel my subscription, and they keep making the price so low that I end up renewing every year.
I got no problem copy/pasting, but it would be really long and undoubtedly would piss people off.
"I have only space enough to add: against the assault of desperate pandas nothing can stand."
-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)
by HungryHungryPanda on Jul 14, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
doing it as a fanpost would work.
I can do it to if you want
by blackhawkeyes on Jul 14, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll do it
Just didn’t want to knock any fanposts down… then I realized it doesn’t even fucking matter anymore.
"I have only space enough to add: against the assault of desperate pandas nothing can stand."
-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)
by HungryHungryPanda on Jul 14, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions
that's what I was thinking.
not too many really in depth posts in the offseason.
by blackhawkeyes on Jul 14, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Posted
that mother
"I have only space enough to add: against the assault of desperate pandas nothing can stand."
-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)
by HungryHungryPanda on Jul 14, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Got this one off Puck Daddy
Two social media movements to report on today. First, the John Hancock Observatory in Chicago is having a cocktail naming contest in order to honor the Chicago Blackhawks’ Stanley Cup championship. The clubhouse leader? “The Drunken Keith.”
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
by stacie7 on Jul 14, 2010 3:17 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Got to come with a box of Chiclets
You can make things happen, watch things happen or wonder what the hell happened.
by Timothy Fisher on Jul 14, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Nah
The Kopecky comes in a special glass that dribbles all over so you look like an idiot…then, about an hour later, you somehow get a ‘where the fuck did that come from?’ buzz and you take home the best lookin’ broad in the place.
so the Kopecky becomes the Kaner?
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
um...
He said best looking broad in the place. If Kopecky became Kaner he would be going home with some dumpy looking chicks* in flannel from BC ;)
*Remember we’re comparing to super model, pro athlete level tail.
I thought he was dead
although, with that attitude he may as well be.
Sam's got good stuff here. I would question a couple things though...
I think the Sharks will be tougher in the playoffs this year. I still think we have the better team, but they’re going to use this past year’s experience as a stepping stone. They’ll be harder to eliminate than Sam gives them credit for.
As for OUR core, I’m not ready to relax yet. I think Sharp is still in play in the trade market, and that scares me. The same with Campbell. As Sam pointed out all year, our team slows down considerably when Soup isn’t on the ice. Beyond the cap hit, Soup is a big part of our puck-possession/speed game and should be kept.
We’ve got the Conn Smyth winner, the Norris Trophy winner, the I’m-Hossa-and-you’re-not guy, and the drunken Cup-winning-goal scorer still on the team—-so we’re good. I’m nowhere near the ledge. But those guys DO need help around them too.
The Chicago Blackhawks -- 2010 Stanley Cup Champions!!!!!!
"I can't stop crying and laughing." Preacher
Don't worry, Bleach will ride to the rescue
…and then promptly kick the sh-t out of Kane during a pre – skate and blow up the rest of the season.
No Happy Bastille Day for your forgotten backup goalie?
Win a Stanley Cup and you all forget where you came from.
by flyersfaninchicago on Jul 14, 2010 5:13 PM CDT reply actions
Huet was born in France, n'est-ce pas?
An integral part of the Blackhawks narrative the last few years. Besides, backup goalies are important. We had a dozen or so this year.
by flyersfaninchicago on Jul 14, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
You guys should have just put Carcillo in net
When anyone gets close just let him try to run them over. Who needs a goalie?
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
I went away for a month and they got Jody Shelley
AND they re-sign Carcillo.
I want to tell Paul Holmgren we can’t have another baby right now.
But it’s too late
Meantime we money-laundering Hamhuis and decide that maybe Leighton’s last save attempt means he’s the goalie of the future.
I’m sorry I feel like the messed-up neighbor who comes into the rich person’s house and complains about their problems. But you have such a nice place and where did you get that gorgeous big silver lamp base with all the writing on the side? It’s very special. We can’t afford that on our salary. Paul tries but he’s, well, he’s just a little set in his ways. But we knew that when we picked him.
I’ll go back home now. Thanks for the drink.
by flyersfaninchicago on Jul 14, 2010 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
rec'd
it amused me
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 14, 2010 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions
haha, me too
Our visitors are funny lately. Actually, so are our regulars, I’m rec-ing the shit of comments lately.
by Katherine215 on Jul 14, 2010 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't see why the Flyers can't contend next year
Seriously, with so many of their star players either having off years during the regular season due to injury or outside pressures (but stepping it up in the playoffs), they could be a beast next year. Carcillo’s a massive tool and Leighton can be streaky, but I think they match up well with the other teams, particularly if their top line performs up to their potential.
if their top line performs up to their potential.
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by red army line on Jul 15, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
First of all, I am honored by all the green, thank you
Flyers should contend with Pens and Caps for the EC. This year was wacky, regular season and playoffs.
Leighton was huge for them all year but he couldn’t step up in the final. Maybe he needs another year but it’s easier to take that risk on a young goalie big on talent than somebody with Leighton’s storyline.
Plus he gave up the worst Cup-winning goal since the time of Christ. That seems to have gotten lost among all the uncertainty and weirdness of the ending and celebration.
I just forced myself to watch the replay. It looks like his left leg was asleep. And the right side of his brain.
So they needed a goalie at the start of last year and they still do. Maybe it’s Leighton.
But what’s most important is that we helped Hamhuis with flier miles connecting in PHL from BNA-YVR, and that we can put out a line with Shelley and Carcillo. Every year I hope they cancel " Ed Snider’s That 70s Show" but it’s in eternal syndication in the Philadelphia market.
Belated/repeated congratulations to all, please enjoy your summer and it’s really not worth getting anxious about anything until March, ok?
by flyersfaninchicago on Jul 15, 2010 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Last goal was a little unfair...
The Hawks had a wide open skater (Boynton?) coming in free to Leighton’s left. Leighton saw this and didn’t think Kane would shoot at him since he had the post covered.
He anticipated a pass not a shot. I’m still thinking Kane shot low hoping for a rebound since he had a 2 on 1 in front of the net. It just went in in a fluke kinda way.
Sorry, but the Flyers defense was crap.
If Leighton had stayed on the post and Kane did pass to a skater with a wide open net, everyone would be complaining that Leighton was an idiot. He should have known the real danger was a pass…
I think many heads would have asploded
if that happened!
by Katherine215 on Jul 16, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't see it the same way, not that it really matters
Ladd and Coburn were battling in front and it seemed to me that Powe and Gagne were in position to block a pass to Boynton, with Powe’s stick already on the ice.
Boynton did have a clear path to the net and Gagne was watching the puck. So I think the open man was an option on a low rebound, which I agree with you was Kane’s play.
As for Leighton, put yourself in his crouch at the time of the shot and I think you’ll see your weight and leg position are not favorable for a cross-ice move. His stick blade is his best friend at this point but he also started to put his stick shaft down flat when he knows the length of his blade would cover the angle if he’d actually had it on the ice.
Of course it’s happening very fast but that kind of play is supposed to be automatic for a goalie, even including the possibility of a cross-ice pass, which as I said it doesn’t look to me as though he was getting ready for.
I appreciate the guy and am happy he’s on the roster and hope he grows into a lockdown goalie, but his play and presence were different in the final than earlier (not that he was alone in this).
Enough from my armchair.
by flyersfaninchicago on Jul 16, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
It ain't that easy...
Okay, I love the positivity of the article and all and I agree our core is still fantastic, however, I think the point we are skimming over is we probably won the Cup because of our depth just as much as our core. Our depth is gone. When it gets closer to the season Sam will have to do another article comparing depth of guys who are not considered the core. I don’t think we are gonna fare very well in that article. Time will tell. Yes, we all knew this was coming, but I’m not sure most people realized it was gonna hit at the level it might ending up hitting. I never, ever thought we would lose Ladd. I expected Buff, Steeger, Sopel, Burish or Eager (not necessarily both) and some others. But this is getting to be a bit too much, even for the great players we have left on this team. I know we will be good. I’ve seen plenty of “good” Hawks teams in my 43 years, but I’ve only seen one Cup winner. I want to see more of those and am not sold on us being “that” next season. I still have hope and maybe i will feel better about it when it gets closer to the season. I just wish people would stop telling me how good Kyle Beach is gonna be (if he’s not in jail) and our other young guys because no one knows. I also don’t want to hear how Buff, Steeger and Laddy didn’t mean that much, because I will tell you time and time again that they did. Even Sopel came up huge for this team and will be missed because of the dedication he showed in throwing his body instead of pucks every game. We will have to convince someone else to be that guy now. Keep up the good work on this site. It’s great.
An outsider's anlaysis, under the influence of three margaritas
The salary cap is like a new military technology that requires all nations to completely change not only their strategy but their theory of warfare. I think most teams are still responding poorly to the reality of the cap, making tactical maneuvers to save themselves in moments of crisis because their strategies and theories are still pre-cap and lack foresight.
If you are going to make a mistake it’s better to get rid of too many guys and free up space than too few. A team good enough to win the cup will almost certainly have serious cap issues so It’s better to assume that you cannot win two years in a row and make the moves you need for the next up-cycle, while still hoping that you can restore depth with your youth and with reclamation projects, and just pray hard that the chemistry will build over the course of a season. A little health, a little luck and the superior core of your team might get you back to the final anyway.
Ladd is the one that hurts the most, I think. But losing #4 (too drunk to spell) would really have been the worst, so Bowman wins I say.
I have no idea if this is true but once I got the first sentence down the rest had to fall in line.
I’m just trying to stop you nice people from worrying so much given that it’s July and you just won the Stanley Cup. Christ.
by flyersfaninchicago on Jul 14, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Great post... especially after 3 Margaritas...
The Cap is a harsh mistress…
"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."
you type better after 3 margaritas then i do sober
SIGH
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Jul 14, 2010 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm gonna rec this
because I found it to be a very good commentary after 3 margaritas and I missed the rec-fest above.
You know it's a slow news day when........
this is what the old spice man would do on his day with the cup
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
bits
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 14, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Random...
I was behind a car today with a Blackhawks license plate holder, plate# “BYFLIN 33”…
Made me ponder the demise of my screen name… sigh.
VerStig, does this suck, or what?
"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."
Haven't thought this all the way out yet
…but don’t know where else to put it, and it’s too short for a separate post. Would it be out of the question for the top two lines to be:
Brouwer-Toews-Sharp
Hossa-Bolland-Kane
I love DDN like everyone else, but I can see Kane flourishing on a line where the other two forwards are so responsible defensively. Brouwer can provide the net presence on the top line, Sharp gets to go back to his natural position, and Toews…well, he’s sorta good no matter who’s on a line with him.
What I don’t know is if that leaves the third and fourth lines in a complete shambles. Of course, we don’t even know who makes up the third and fourth lines yet. I like those top two lines a lot though. Or is someone going to tell me I need to stick to being a fan and leave the line shuffling to Q?
"Eighty-five percent of the fuckin' world's working. The other fifteen come out here." - Lee Elia
by TenMinuteMisconduct on Jul 14, 2010 9:29 PM CDT reply actions
I'm not opposed to breaking up
DDN, but in the handful of times it was tried, Hossa and Kane didn’t play well together. One always had to be on his off wing and it took away the effectiveness of them both when they were together. But, maybe it will be different this coming year.
And really, with the lines Q throws out there, I don’t think it takes much more than being a fan to make them up!
by Katherine215 on Jul 14, 2010 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed
if you break them up, Toews works much better with Hossa.
by northernsails on Jul 14, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
ummm, no?
refresh our memories, please…
by Katherine215 on Jul 14, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Feb or March last year I forget because I'm old and it doesn't matter because they did after all win the goddamn Cup, BUT
Break up Toews and Kane
Yes or NO
Holy Crap!
ummmmm...
ToewsHossa
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jul 14, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
i like
Toews-Hossa, Sharp-Kane, however, when Toews-Kane are on they are really on and amazing. So i like the options we have with those players to mix it up
by justforkicks on Jul 15, 2010 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I bet you say that to all the girls
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by BigCSouthside on Jul 14, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
did you do it the traditional Khazakhstani way?
by northernsails on Jul 14, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Game 6 is on Comcast
2 minutes into overtime. Prepare to re-live awesome.
"You borderline molested the Stanley Cup man..."
by Sect. 330 Dweller on Jul 14, 2010 9:30 PM CDT reply actions
it just ended for me.
made me feel so awesome, especially since I wasn’t feeling great today.
by northernsails on Jul 14, 2010 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
TWSS?
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 14, 2010 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
This little league season will never end
Up 15-3 in the bottom of the 6th (6 inning game), wound up winning 15-10. Poor kid, it was hard to watch
October cannot come soon enough.
Toews 100pts?
Holy Crap!
"walk's as good as a hit"
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jul 14, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
damn clogged up basepaths
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jul 14, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Your starters should also throw at least 130 pitches per game
…or else they’re just p-ssies. The Dustbag knows pitching – you say your arm hurts? Well then, go throw at the flagpole a few hundred times, you big Nancy – Boy.
Steroids? What are those? What?
and A Nod Is as Good as a Wink
… to a Blind Horse.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Something like that
gotta go make another Tequila, triple sec and cranberry. I know fairy drink, but 15-10 under the lights. Fuck!
Holy Crap!
Professor Nasty's Singalong Blog
(hope I didn’t get that wrong)
by northernsails on Jul 14, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I think they're both correct.
the Blind Horse line is actually the name of an album by Faces that come out a long, long time ago.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
it's funny you should say that because when we were up 15-3 a parent from the other team yells
“throw it in there they’re not swinging”
Holy Crap!
;-)
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jul 14, 2010 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions
reply fail
winking to comment above, duh.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jul 14, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
wait what?
the other team?
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jul 14, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
classic
i wanna drive all the way around the lake just to give that woman a hug!
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jul 14, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Did I say it was a woman?
You know what happens when you assume someones a woman.
hard time.
Holy Crap!
hah, even I assumed it was a woman.
whoops.
by Katherine215 on Jul 14, 2010 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
It's good to get away from the cap thing.
Another game tomorrow.
10 YO all star baseball. It’s awesome!
Holy Crap!
baseball coaching equals
killer tan.
Couple years behind me now, but I used to stroll into the office on Monday in the summer. Everybody’d be all “Whoa, dude, Where did YOU go?”
I’d hike up the trousers a bit and let ’em have it: “Oh- a little place called Lombard (or Mt. Prospect, or Lake in the Hills.”)
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jul 14, 2010 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions
My neck looks good
arms and lower legs too. It’s the ultimate farmers tan.
Actually it is fun, but the season started in Early April and is still going.
Holy Crap!
whoa
htf did I infer that!!
My apologies to all- tho my presumption does flatter what I might get drmmed out of here for referring to as “the fair sex”.
Still, I’d give the guy a hug too.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Jul 14, 2010 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions

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