Joel Quenneville = Hope
by Killion on Jul 6, 2010 10:19 AM CDT
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So I'm not totally sure what these mean... The Hawks already won the Cup so we don't have to "hope" for anything but a repeat at this point. Either way - it's pretty slow around here and these stencils are just awesome. Sam and I saw one outside Hot Doug's yesterday and according to Flickr this one is Diversey and Sacramento which is also in Logan Square. I'm not sure if they're in any other neighborhoods but if you see one feel free to share a picture or just the location.
I'm also quite thankful that whoever made them didn't give Coach Q the nose of a pig...
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Someone needs to stencil a "hop" next to him and place "Hops" under it.
by Hi, I'm Bob LeDonne on Jul 6, 2010 10:21 AM CDT reply actions
So ...
What does everyone think Niemi will be rewarded in arbitration? (And Ladd and Eager?)
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Also any news on Hammer?
I haven’t heard shit or just trying to block it out of my mind
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Has the arbitration filing deadline passed?
Or could Hammer still file?
by shinkicker on Jul 6, 2010 10:37 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The way I understand it Hjammer is not arbitration eligible.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
Well now I'm just confused
Is there a deadline on offer sheets from other teams? Or is there some other reason he hasn’t accepted his QO?
I think my brain leaked out everything unlearned about ufa/rfa stuff last week.
by shinkicker on Jul 6, 2010 10:50 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
hammer doesn’t have arbitration rights because this is the end of his entry level deal. you gain them latter.
as for a deadline, his are done. he has is QO and can sign it whenever he wants (which he won’t do) and can accept and offer from a team at any point and time. there is no deadline and there’s always the possibility of him not being signed before camp.
So much for hoping that’d be resolved quickly/easily.
by shinkicker on Jul 6, 2010 11:49 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
maybe not
I thought the sequence weas to see how Nemo shakes out first. Afterwards, something quick might happen on Chalmers.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
Hjammer’s not eligible for arb, no, as modnar wrote above. Players’ deadlines for arb was yesterday; teams’ deadline is today.
I don’t think there’s an official deadline just on offer sheets, although the Dec 1 deadline would kick in for those, too, I’d think (the date past which a free agent can no longer come on board, and so the season is done for him).
An RFA with any kind of leverage whatsoever, which is pretty much everyone, would rarely just accept his QO outright, as I understand it, unless they were AHLers exclusively. QOs are basically just window dressing, their sole function being to secure the rights of the player so he doesn’t become a UFA. RFAs receive them, and they then proceed to work out a contract (or go to arbitration, as the case may be).
As to waiting for Nemo’s number to come in, that may well be the case. We’re scraping for every dollar … but arbitration hearings don’t begin until July 20, so if we are trying to iron out a contract with him before then, I doubt it will happen for 2 more weeks yet.
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I also hope we're not making Hjammer wait for Niemi
I love Niemi a lot but the order of importance is definitely Hjammer and then Niemi. Resigning Hjammer should be the front office’s top priority.
it's entirely possible this isn't sarcasm
I hope so, too
As much as i love Niemi, there are still some serviceable goalies out there but Hjammer need to be the priority.
I’m guessing that the scenario is that Hjammer’s salary could be higher if he waits to see what happens with Niemi but if he signs now, it will be lower. I’d wait, too, if I were Hjammer if that is the case but I’m personally getting impatient (as if that makes a damn bit of difference to any of them. LOL!)
i think it's great ladd and eager
are giving atlanta some trouble. as for niemi, can’t think it’s anyone but zito behind him convincing him he wants more money.
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
by desertindian on Jul 6, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Zito is telling Antti he's worth at least $4 mil
which is why he filed for arb and is trying to milk his playoff performance for all its worth … I’d say it’s worth $2 million and a bowl of Wheaties. if I were Niemi I’d be asking Stan to pay the Hammer because he’s going to save his ass a couple of times this season.
yeah, it's that green thing that he's hoping to get more of
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Jul 6, 2010 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Halak didn't get $4 million
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I’ve already posted this on ahnfire’s fanshot but I think he’ll get something similar to what Cam Ward got in 2007 after his arbitration case – a 3-year deal worth $8 million.
Broken down like this:
1st year – $2 million
2nd year – $2.5 million
3rd year – $3.5 million
Keep in mind that Ward had a full season after winning the Stanley Cup as a rookie but you get the idea. Niemi might get a little less than what Ward did on that occasion (less GP and market value of netminders) but it might similar to the tune of:
1st year – $1.75 million
2nd year – $2.25 million
3rd year – $2.75 million
$6.75 million over the 3 years would be a cap hit of $2.25 million per year which is to be expected for a rookie netminder that became only the 3rd netminder to start every game and capture the Stanely Cup as a rookie (Dryden and Roy).
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seems to think Niemi won’t get LESS than $3.75m, which is how much the Blues are essentially giving Halak per year in his 4yr $15m deal.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but assuming arbitrators decide only in 1- or 2-year terms, couldn’t an argument against $3.75m be made based off the actual terms of Halak’s deal?
1st year = $2.75m
2nd year = $3.50m
3rd year = $4.25m
4th year = $4.50m
The Blues are basically saying yes, Halak has potential (whether it’s more or less than Niemi’s is up to both sides—the Hawks and Niemi—to dispute) and yes, he does have upside, but the first two years after his performance are only worth $2.75m and $3.50m respectively. His “true” potential, which the Blues are basically speculating/gambling on, lies in his performance in his 3rd/4th year playing for St. Louis.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 6, 2010 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
As I understand it, arbitration
is based on stats and comparable market value. Both sides make their case for what the salary should be looking at the numbers and at what other players of similar caliber have gotten.
The thing is, has there been a situation like the one with Nemo? I mean in terms of a less-than-starter’s game load during the season? The playoff run has been done before by goalies (as already noted) but was there one this “inexperienced?” Niemi is looking for number 1 goalie dollars, but he wasn’t the number one goalie for most of the season. So the stats are a bit enigmatic. How do you compare his stats and performance to others’ when there hasn’t really been any others in this situation? Has there? Unless Rogers has some inside information, I can’t imagine Nemo would get over $3 million as an “unproven” netminder (unproven over the course of a long season) even with the playoff run. (And Nemo did give up a lot of goals in the Finals.) I’m guessing Zito will bring Nemo’s experience as a netminder prior to coming to the Hawks into the discussion. But even with that, the guy has not been through a full season as a #1 netminder. I’d expect 2.5 to 3 mill per year for a 1 or 2 year deal.
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Cam Ward maybe, as hawks61 suggested?
Or Halak, sort of. The stats are maybe malleable too, depending on how either side decides to spin them.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 6, 2010 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't know how much Cam had played in the regular season that year.
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28 GP, 14-8-2 record, .882 SV% and 3.68 GAA
but he had a 15-8-0 record in the postseason, .920 SV% and 2.14 GAA. He got hot at the right time—plus, they faced a Cinderella Oilers team.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Jul 6, 2010 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Solution to America/Illinois/Chicago problems
Q for President-Governer-Mayor
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
I think that's what that stencil is trying to state...
Q for president!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jul 6, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Can you image Iran or Russia sitting down at the negotiating table and seeing the face of Joel Quenneville staring back at them?
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
It's tougher than Chuck Norris' beard...
We need a random Q-stache fact generator…
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Q Stencil Outside
McFetridge Ice Arena on California…on the sidewalk in front. I noticed it during or right after the Finals.
I dont believe there was any particular order. I usually check those slideshows out on SI and they always appear to be random.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
It's going in reverse chronological order ...
So Campbell is the second latest free agent bust, rather than the #2 overall.
It’s hard to argue he’s not a bust considering his cap hit, but in my opinion, he’s certainly a better signing than the other 25 guys on that list. I’m pretty sure he was the only one to play substantial minutes during a cup winning playoff run with the team he signed with (Thank you Huet for making me qualify that comment). To me, the difference between him and the other guys is the amount he’s a bust. I’d say he’s only overpaid by 2 million- 3 tops- while some of those other guys were overpaid by a clear 4 or 5 million. That’s the difference between a third liner.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jul 6, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree, but you look at the players who have bloated contracts, and they’re almost always UFAs who were the best available players at their position in any given free agency year. Campbell and Huet were the best d-man and goalie available that year, and they got contracts that showed it. You look at guys like Gomez, Drury, Briere … those contracts are just as asinine, but they’re going to be handed out every year to every player. Every year is a new bell curve.
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Check out Kimmo Timonen’s it’s a beauty as well.
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That was a really odd sign and trade when Philly got those guys, him and Hartnell. I like Timonen a lot more than you, I seem to remember, but his and Hartnell’s contracts are doozies, for sure. I’d definitely rather have Campbell at 7.1 than Timonen at 6.3 (and Sharp at 3.9 than Hartnell at 4.2!).
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i actually like timonen
but i’d rather have campbell. just wish it was for less money.
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Jul 6, 2010 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
So we log #2 and #3?
Granted huet but Soupy? Eh it’s SI. I stopped reading there BS a long time ago
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Even Huet doesn't rank a top 25
…his numbers were excellant….he jus laid a egg here and there
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I can't believe
they’re bitching about him being on the second line. What did they think we should do? Demote Keith to the 2nd line? Have two puck-moving D-men (Keith & Campbell) on the first line and two stay-at-home(ish) D-men on the second line? Fuck that.
I like to think of our D pairings
like our forward pairings: we have a 1 and a 1a. I’m quite content with that. Screw SI, what do they know?
by Katherine215 on Jul 6, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Exactly.
Hockey is “fringe” to them anyway. They can blow it out their ass.
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"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
East Coast Sports Network
Someone called it Eastern Sports Promotion Network
They can Jam it.
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not familiar with his whole career but...
They list Danny Briere as a bust for philly didnt he just lead the 2010 playoffs with the most point overall. That has to count for something.
by KindofaBigDeal on Jul 6, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I saw one of those stencils back before the Finals
Downtown, I think, near the Blackhawks store on Michigan.
I saw one in red well before the Final
On Diversey, west of Halsted.
Niemi lucky if he gets $1.5 MM
Really, how could any objective arbitrer give him any more than that figure? For less than half of a full season?
I think it's pretty ridiculous that he won't sign ...
Even if it’s just a two or even one year deal worth 1.5 per, he gets a 100% raise and a chance to showcase himself as a proven start over the course of a season. A team in the Hawks cap situation or any other team shouldn’t be throwing buffo bucks at this guy because of one superior playoff run.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jul 6, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
A goaltender who just won a Stanley Cup mind is not in the same place as yours. He just PROVED he could win in his own mind. I can’t really blame a man for trying to squeeze out every penny…
All that being said I hope the Hawks kick his ass in arbitration.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
not blaming the man...
but I will blame the Hawks if we overpay. I was Niemi’s biggest supporter when most around these parts were stuck on Huet, but I have no loyalty to the guy.
if it’s more than $1.75mil, it’ll be “thanks and good luck”.
I saw this a month ago
Somewhere close to the Weiner Circle.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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Looks more like a death sentence
rather than hope
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his head reminds me
of a jack-o-lantern.
by Katherine215 on Jul 6, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a Joel-O-Lantern
(Sorry, I know, that’s horribly bad.)
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
You should know by now
that horribly bad things are celebrated ‘round here. Look at Verbeauty’s rapping, Kane’s mullet, Sopel’s face, Eager’s intelligence and just about everything about Kop.
Perhaps,
but 3 of those 5 guys are gone.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
I already miss Sopel's face...
…so much that i have the Tribune’s poster of him next to my monitor at work and I don’t think it’s ever coming down.
I can make it worse
It’s a Pump-Quenne
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jul 6, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Ohhh, CNS.
A little pop just went up my nose.
by Katherine215 on Jul 6, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
#9
The Mike Modano to Blackhawks meme is starting to heat up. David Haugh (who I still think doesn’t know shit about hockey but is at least trying) and Puck Daddy are both speculating.
I was initially opposed and still am skeptical but I think Id rather see him on our 3rd or 4th line as opposed to the Red Wings.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
I think the entire hockey world had just assumed.
I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t want a guy like that on the Hawks. He claims he wants to win a cup, and I think him with the Kings might have been the “over the top” moment.
I'm not superstitious. I'm just a little stitious.
he'd have to play for
pretty darn close to league minimum, right? Or at least not much more than a million. Even if Huet goes away, I thought we were still pretty tight on the cap.
by Katherine215 on Jul 6, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree that we are the long shots as we have a lot of money problems to sort out before we have any clue how much we have to spend…
Sorry I wasn’t able to hit up the BBQ! An old friend showed up in town last minute!
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
No problem!
I’m sure we will do other meetups. :)
by Katherine215 on Jul 6, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I really always wanted to go to one of those road watch parties but something always found a way to screw up my plans…..Next season Im making it a point to get to those things.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
I'll try and come along to one
when I’m old enough to drink in your country. Not making promises, though, ‘cause I’m a typical broke student, but I’ll definitely try my best.
Yes but it seems to me the handicappers are ranking the Hawks and Wings pretty dam close this coming season.
The Wings aint nothing to sneeze at next year.
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
make him an offer for $1 million
Modano’s got the speed to be our 3rd line center – maybe juggle and pair him with Hossa or Sharp … question is what number does he wear?
Well
if he wants to play next year for $850K, I’m allllllll for it!
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"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
Interesting argument for Modano to Chicago
I have been intrigued by this possibility for a while now but never gave it much hope as i thought the feel-good story of Modano playing for his home-town SCUM would be more plausible than Modano committing to the Indian for a final run for The Cup, but then I saw THIS ARTICLE from Bleacher Report. I know some of the things written there should be taken with a (large) grain of salt, as suggested by some on this blog, but i feel this write-up presents a very convincing case for Chicago being the ideal destination for, arguably, The Greatest American Goal Scorer EVER.
Anticipay-ya-tion is makin’ me wait.
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And it sounds like Modano would like to come here
At Puck Daddy, whatever article I read about it had him saying that he’d be pretty interested in fitting in here. And he’s got to know the Hawks’ cap situation, so the money wouldn’t be much.
Since I know NOTHING about Modano’s stats (other than LOTS of points) who exactly would he replace in the lineup from the 42 guys we’ve lost so far?
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but the Wings seem to be the only team courting him
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 6, 2010 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions
It sounds like HE's trying to get the Hawks interested.
And if the guy can still play and win faceoffs, I think we should give him a look. Just sayin’.
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I don't know where the Hawks stand on him
but it feels like maybe their focus is on getting Hammer and Niemi signed.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 6, 2010 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, and no, Kim Johnsson did NOT sleep with a player's wife
whatever your friendly neighborhood rumor-monger insists.
http://www.startribune.com/sports/wild/blogs/97864184.html
He is effectively retiring because he still hasn’t fully recovered from the concussion he suffered from that Philly game.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
hah I was just about to post this
apparently he’s still alive. Probably sitting in the dark somewhere, sure, but alive.
Kim Johnsson says....
….Crayon in my brain?
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
damn, he sounds like
a really great guy. Sucks that this happened to him. I hope he’s ok.
by Katherine215 on Jul 6, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
it's incredible how serious concussions can be
and how little we know of it, even know.
I mean, for some it was easier to believe that Johnsson was involved in some elaborately dramatic behind-the-scenes soap opera that had him shunned by the entire organization than it was to believe that his concussion was just really, really bad.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 6, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I always think
a concussion is pretty minor, a bump on the head and you’ll be ok in a few days. I would imagine Johnsson’s brain would be one they’d want to study after he dies. Though I’m hoping they will have a better treatment/cure long before then.
by Katherine215 on Jul 6, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
me too
and, I suspect, everyone else.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 6, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
concussions can be scary
in college, one of my residents got one and for over a month, the poor boy had to carry around a notebook to remind himself of things like why he was going to the dining hall, what class he just had, what he was supposed to do later, etc. And that was just from hitting his head while playing touch football out on the quad.
remember, concussion = bruised (shaken) brain
I didn’t think much of them either, until I saw firsthand the effects. Him walking around with his little notebook would’ve been a lot sadder if it wasn’t for the fact that he had such a good sense of humor about it.
Do you know how many times
I hit my head the weekend I moved? 4. None were hard enough to do more than give me a bruise, but still. That is a scary story.
And it only gets worse when you get older.
This has been the “year of the concussion” since those reports about the ex-NFL/boxing brain autopsy experiments came out. Symptoms are pretty awful later in life. Hopefully KJ’s concussion symptoms don’t come back later in life.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/10/19/091019fa_fact_gladwell
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And you'll always be LU... LU, LU, LU. And that's what I'm gonna call you for the rest of your life, is LU, LU, LU, LU, LU, okay? So fuck you.
Here's an article
from ESPN that came out last week. It’s about Chris Henry of the Bengals. They found that he had brain damage but was never diagnosed with a concussion in College or the NFL. Sadly, there are a lot of athletes out there walking around with this condition and probably aren’t even aware of it.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
There's a bunch of similar articles
I remember reading one several months ago where they measured the force inside of football players’ helmets during practices (no pads). Apparently, all of that stuff is cumulative not just the diagnosed concussions.
I had 3 concussions my Junior year of High School (2 from Hockey)
Definitely affected me. After reading some of these articles, I realize they didn’t know as much about concussions back then…
"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger."
they used to be totally clueless - but the more they know, the better
we used to get “concussed” at least once a season, often more than once a season – season after season. No one knew much of anything about them.
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Confusion will be my epitaph.
He put together a pretty good career for the very last pick in the draft
But if Johnsson resurfaces playing minor league baseball…
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Jul 6, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Great point
with all the money thrown at sports medicine, there seems to be about zero progress on concussion prevention/treatment.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
It's fascinating
that Toews gets absolutely crushed by Mitchell that everyone sees, and he misses, what, 6 games? (can’t remember the exact number, my apologies) And we have Johnsson, gets practically a professional death sentence for a hit no one saw or has video of?
I fully understand that all hits are received and delivered differently by each player…but I have yet to read any description of the hit and how it was delivered, by who, etc?
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"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
From what I understand
the effects from hits to the head are cumulative. So a relatively minor hit could have been the tipping point.
every concussion is worse than the one before - Johnsson had a prior history of them
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Thanks
for posting that, chi … it’s been nagging at me for months. All the rumours seemed just that, dumb speculation, but even I, starting from a deep doubt about the rumours, was thinking there may have been something to them after all. Nice to see there wasn’t … but then shitty, too. Hope he gets better.
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HA!
Not that I wish this serious of an injury on Johnsson, but I couldn’t stand people insisting that there had to be some drama. Personal drama made a lot less sense than a very bad concussion, and I’m glad it’s finally out so the rumors can go away.
I can't believe Johnsson is such a scumbag ...
that he would pork another players wife while suffering from vertigo. This guy is beyond the pale.
Seriously though, this one has to be on the Hawks for not explaining in greater detail why this guy up and disappeared after playing half a dozen games. In defense of of the tabloid publishing fans, the rumor mill didn’t crank up until a reasonable time after he was gone.
by Billy Charlesbois on Jul 6, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Did we just get Halak'd?
$3.75M average cap hit. $2.75 M next season, $3.50 M in 11-12, $4.25 M in 12-13 and $4.50 M in 13-14.
…uh oh. Zito just came.
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
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"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
Well
At least we have the fact Niemi’s played much, much fewer NHL games than Halak. That should work in our favour in arbitration.
as well as some stats
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 6, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions
That and the fact that all of Niemi’s stats are inferior to that of Halak. This is a pretty big win for the Hawks. Especially when you consider Halak is getting $2.75 for this season and Niemi will likely only sign a one-year deal.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jul 6, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
2009-10 STATS – 26-7-4 – 2.25 - .912
2009-10 STATS – 26-13-5 - 2.40 – .924
Zito has to see this as fantastic news for his client IMO.
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
Not sure how you see that
but this is just another example of one person seeing a duck and another seeing a rabbit
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by El Duque's Raft on Jul 6, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
I never planned on Niemi signing for 2.5-2.75M.
did you guys?
I think Niemi’s people would be nuts not to look at these numbers and then look at Stan across the table and remind him who was in net for 16 playoff victories. IDK. I really have no fucking clue, but 2.5M seems too high for Niemi and I hope this does now serve as the bargaining chip they were looking for.
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
Well
now the negotiations probably start at 2.75 and go way lower now. He’s not going to make as much as Halak this season. There’s nothing he can point to and say I’m worth more than him, other than the Cup. That will only carry so much weight with the arbitrator.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jul 6, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Sassone...
Niemi, who filed for arbitration on Monday, no doubt is looking to better Halak’s contract. Winning the Cup puts Niemi in the driver’s seat in negotiations with the Hawks, who might have to give their No. 1 goalie in the neighborhood of $4 million a year.
so noone really fucking knows but this could potentially get ugly.
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
right
Halak is getting 4yr / $15 mil. Of course he’s played 100 games. I still think give Niemi a one year deal, if he does well he can get another raise next offseason
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
Halak also has that Olympian thing going for him
Niemi is just a former Zamboni driver who turned out to be a damn good goalie … I agree if the horseshoe remains up his ass for another year, Niemi can get a better raise.
rabbit!
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 6, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
baseball
Elmer Fudd: Oh, Mr. Game Warden, I hope you can help me. I’ve been told I can shoot wabbits, and goats, and pigeons, and mongooses, and dirty skunks, and ducks. Can you tell me what season it weawy is?
Bugs Bunny: Why certainly, my boy.
Bugs Bunny: It’s baseball season!
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
I say it's duck season - and I say FIRE!
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jul 6, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions
what about career stats?
are those any different?
by Katherine215 on Jul 6, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
With Niemi playing in more than 50 less career games than Halak
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by El Duque's Raft on Jul 6, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Oops
I meant to add that little caveat, but forgot to. You have to admit, it makes his number of SOs much more impressive. But the lower SV% does hint at the streakyness he’s shown at times.
cause the guys in front of him
have absolutly no effect on that right?
Who was better? The guy that gave up one goal in 15 shots or the guy that gave up 2 in 35 shots?
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
I get your point
but SV% is (for me) still the best indicator of pure goalie performance there is; GAA is much more of a team stat, and SOs is part luck and part how hot a goalie can get when he goes on a tear.
Not necessarily...
If you have a good D in front of you, it forces opposing teams to take shots they might otherwise not take. So, I’m not sold on SV% as an accurate assessment of goal tending ability. I saw Niemi make some slick saves. I also saw an inexperienced netminder making a lot of rookie mistakes…
The real test will be when he has the new goon line out with him and no one protecting him. My guess is that we will have some folks using SV% at that time as proof that he was way overpaid through arbitration. In neither instance is it very accurate…
Don't get me wrong
none of them are perfect. The only point I was trying to make was that, out of GAA, SV% & SOs, SV% is the best indicator of goalie performance. That’s it.
That
won’t hold much water with the arbiter (is that the right word?). Pretty certain they can’t bring up Keith/Seabs/Hjammer vs. Gill/Gorges/Markov.
The Hawks can absolutely bring up the fact that Niemi played behind the Norris Trophy winner along with Team Canada’s 7th d-men while Halak played behind those stooges.
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by El Duque's Raft on Jul 6, 2010 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it falls under overall contribution
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 6, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
arbitration is basically going to look like
a slightly more stats-based version of the goalie debates we have on SCH, only it’ll just be about Niemi’s merits as a goalie, and there’s an appointed person who makes a final decision on whose arguments hold more weight.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 6, 2010 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
we'd have had to agree on WHO it would be
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 6, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I figured.
I hate arbitration – teams essentially have to point out all the bad things about their players that they like enough to want to resign but not pay as much as the player wants. What a shitty situation.
in a related story...
former Bulls guard Chris Duhon verbally agreed to a four-year, $15 million deal with the Magic.
Chris fucking Duhon?! the NBA is insane.
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
that seems reasonable
compared to what Atlanta gave Johnson
nothin but smiles
my Captain is better than your Captain
was that the 10 yr 100 mil contract I heard about
If so, I thought that was just obscene.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
Arbitration is only one reason
I could never be a GM. If Niemi and Zito came to me looking for Halak type numbers, I’d tell them that signing Hammer was my top priority and that Niemi’s stats would be shit without the defense that plays in front of him. I’d then offer a contract that would average a 2 million dollar cap hit and if they don’t like it, don’t let the door hit them in the ass on their way out.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
agreed
as I mentioned above, see Maddux v. Himes, 1988. Stil fuckin’ pisses me off.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
what about the eye test?
Nemo had a nice run, Halak carried his team.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
whoa, comprehension fail on my part
I thought you meant the Hawks had given that to Niemi. Not sure how I got that, but whew, glad I was wrong.
by Katherine215 on Jul 6, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Kovy
This guy must be absolutly crushed right now. The best offer he received was from Atlanta!
Good!
Compadres! It is imperative that we crush the freedom fighters before the start of the rainy season......And by that I mean it’s time for the worker of the week award!"
what did they offer him?
Hopefully not much more than $5million and a pack of Wrigley’s Winter Fresh gum.
atlanta offered him either $100m over 12 years or $70m over 7
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 6, 2010 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
positive thought
I’m just extremely happy to still have Sharpie on our team.
For now at least...
(I’ve become such a cynical beast during this offseason!)
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i'm extremely happy to have that $4m siphoned away
as a bonus penalty to our cap hit, because at the end of this year that frees up $4m to give room for Seabrook’s extension.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 6, 2010 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Now that's a nice optimistic response to my cynicism!
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I'm also preparing myself for a "transition year"
but the 2011-12 season better be golden.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 6, 2010 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Our
“transition year” should be pretty good, no? Things could go bad for us, but I don’t see us getting fewer points than this years Predators got. Right? Beuller?
uh huh
I don’t know why so many people are upset at the thought of not repeating— for one, that’s not guaranteed. For another, winning the Cup is a long and arduous road that not many teams even get to experience; repeating is probably even worse. Lastly, we just broke a 49-year drought. Maybe I’m too Little Miss Sunshine here but the glee from that ought to last a little bit longer than a month.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 6, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we'll be like the Penguins from 2 years ago
Not quite dominant in the regular season, had a harder playoff run, and won the Cup.
I think the Sharks are going to be hungrier than ever and trying to use this year’s experience as a springboard, the Scum will be, well, the Scum, and some team like the Preds or Kings will be on the rise. The Hawks will have a tough go of it, but I think they’ve got the best top 2 lines and best 4 D-men in the conference. The Hawks may end up 4th in the conference standings, but I think they’ll be good for the playoffs.
The Chicago Blackhawks -- 2010 Stanley Cup Champions!!!!!!
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I'm even excited
about another youth wave… Excited to see Stalberg’s potential (hope he fits in well) and any other new additions we might use (LaLonde, Beach and/or Skille).
I’m also very excited about the development of our younger guys in the AHL, College or wherever they’re at. I’m excited to see Toews fill out another season.
Can’t wait.
And now that the core knows how to win it
Makes making the playoffs the most important bit. Their experience in the playoffs can give them an edge over equally talented or slightly better teams. The core can also win on the road — yet another key factor in going far in the playoffs when a lower seed.
I feel so much better now
He's hockey's version
of Albert Einstein; minus the crazy hair of course. Everything else fits the bill. Q’s hope is that he won’t have a stanley cup hangover.
"Is there any truth to the rumor that the Bears gave up their first-round pick in 2011 for the decals?" - Someone registered as the DailyNorseman at PFT suggesting the Bears gave up picks in order to get Gaines Adams tribute decals. Stay classy Minnesota fans!
Theres a red one
at Calrk and Wrightwood across from Dunlay’s patio.
Yep, thats infected.
by Bonvie5ForFighting on Jul 7, 2010 7:45 AM CDT reply actions
THAT'S where I saw it too
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Jul 8, 2010 7:07 AM CDT up reply actions
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