Hawks Re-Sign Nick Boynton
by McClure on Aug 10, 2010 8:36 PM CDT
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Cap Geek is reporting that Nick Boynton has signed for the league minimum of $500K for the privilege of skating on the Hawks third defensive pair and taking a pounding on the PK from the opposition's point shots that would make Carmella Bing wince. While CapGeek is anything but official, this all seems pretty realistic, but we'll definitely update the post accordingly once a more reputable source confirms it.
So much for all of those dreams of Jay McKee.
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No Jay McKee
McClure sadly shuffles over to the corner, with the only loves that never jilted him, Scotch and porn. I’m sorry man, but Boynton isnt too bad. I’m actually ok with seeing some more of Nick.
Back off man, I'm a scientist
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
I am too
A bit more mobile and more physical than Sopes, but can he take absorb a slapper, and can he not take dim-witted penalties as he is wont to do?
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Has the Scotch been broken out already?
That was a bang-up sentence. Me now am sure me could am write for website this.
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
Hey
It ain’t easy typing with no hands on the keyboard.
I was actually slightly bewildered and impressed that Matt was able to bang out a sentence or two.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Aug 10, 2010 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
HA! Nice.
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speaking of sentances...
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It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
Hey, ease up on him
the PuckDaddy commenter virus is very contagious. It could’ve happened to any of us.
I was not slamming your opinion
just offering my condolences for the apparent lack of Jay McKee. And what does that last sentence mean
Back off man, I'm a scientist
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
by BigCSouthside on Aug 10, 2010 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions
...
are you being sarcastic? I thought you were pretty good at English/grammar/usage etc. – especially since you always catch my mistakes :P
Anyway, “wont to do” means “normally accustomed to doing” – so McClure’s asking if Boynton can be like Sopes and 1) absorb a slapper & 2) not take the stupid penalties that we’re expecting from him.
Ive been spending far too much time writing material for my site
Brain dumping 15 years of accumulated Fly Fishing knowledge turns your brain silly after a few hours. I must have glossed over it and simply went “What the fuck?”
Back off man, I'm a scientist
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by BigCSouthside on Aug 11, 2010 12:18 AM CDT up reply actions
coming back?
To this area, Wisconsin at all for trout this year? and most importantly would you have any interest in teaching a newbie? have some of my own gear(rod/reel, vest) just having trouble getting out and learning
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I'm alright with this too
I thought he was really solid in the playoffs, i just figured he’d want more than the minimum. This is good news I think.
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
So is it that the team really wants to be able to carry 23 all year...
or is there still enough cap space for one $700,000-$1,000,000 pickup? Or is it worth keeping some flexibility for seeing what you might want to trade for during the season?
For Boynton, seems that anyone we’d put out there in the Stanley Cup finals is worth bringing back on a minimalist deal. And $500,000 to man the third D-line for the Hawks is going to beat any AHL deal that might be out there.
by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 10, 2010 8:59 PM CDT reply actions
So Boynton becomes Sopes v2.0, now with slightly more footspeed and slightly less bad hair
Like I said on the other thread, can’t complain about the paycheck, and I like what it says about the club that guys are willing to take minimum wage to get their names on a Hawks roster.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Aug 10, 2010 9:04 PM CDT reply actions
Also, I hope that the whole of Boynton’s training camp will be a crash course in how to step in front of a puck eight or ten times a night. If he’s going to be Sopes 2.0, we need more shot blocking on that third pair and Hendry won’t be the guy to give it.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Aug 10, 2010 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Very true
And don’t try to be the tough guy and take dumb penalties. If he does both of those he will be Sopes v2
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
Second!
I’m actually a little sad McClure’s writeup of the link to the Trib article about Bowman didn’t include a pornography reference while also sarcastically claiming a lack of professionalism.
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Is it strange I had a pic of her open in another window?
This signing is destiny?
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
Destined to
suck? get fucked? get bend over forward? take it in the pie hole?
That’s what you meant right?? Actually, I’m okay with Nick coming back. He’s the only man truly ugly enough to replace Sopel.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Aug 10, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Well she is, naturally.
But Boynton?….well maybe him too. Especially if he’s going to take Sope’s role as puck depository
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
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the great irony is
that “The Bank” Boynton will only makes the league minimum, Mr. Banks.
If one Cup is good
then 2 Cups must be great
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
A few thoughts
Boynton back is so-so. He’s no Sopel and I don’t think he’ll see much time on the PK, but he is faster. The thing that endeared me to him is the fact that he seems willing to step up and fight for the team when needed.
The downside to this in my eyes is that one of Hendry/Vishnevskiy will probably wind up in Rockford (assuming Scott plays as the 7th d-man) which is sad considering that they’ve both got plenty of AHL experience and are set to play in the NHL now. I understand that Boynton would probably do a decent job as the vet on the 3rd pairing but it does suck seeing guys who are ready to move on stay back due to lack of space. With Vishnevskiy on the 3rd pair, we’d have a puck-moving d-man on each line.
Boyton will be a back up like he was last year
a nice insurance policy when (not if) a team takes a run at our top 4 defensemen.
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
Scott's on the roster to be a physical deterrant/retaliator
Boynton more as an injury replacement if one of the top guys miss some time?
by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 10, 2010 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Are we sure
Boynton won’t be the seventh defenseman until/unless Hendry or Vishnevsky proves himself unworthy?
by stanfordron on Aug 10, 2010 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I seem to remember people saying Scott can play some F when he signed..
Maybe Boynton is the 7th D-man, and Scott is going to be the 23rd man on the roster as a F/D swingman.
I really haven’t gotten a feel for whether teams typically carry the three extra men for practice fodder / in case you need to scratch a regular / depending on how you matchup with tonight’s opponent.
by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 10, 2010 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I like this idea
It makes more sense to me because I think Boynton was very serviceable in the playoffs as a D man and I don’t know that much about Scott.
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
boynton over scott
i could see scott being the 23rd man over boynton and having to prove himself more then boynton considering the hawks already know what boynton can do, ya know
by admiralcheese on Aug 11, 2010 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I like the 500k
that leaves a little over $2 million to add 2 forwards to the roster. I just hope Boynton doesn’t break his face with anyone’s fist again.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
This pretty much means our D is set.
Boynton-Hendry 3rd pair scares me a bit. I think Vish has to make the team otherwise he might be KHL bound. Leddy-Lalonde should now be groomed together in Rockford as the second coming of Keith-Seabrook.
Some time in Rockford is probably best
These kids will be up here soon enough – not too soon though.
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I don't know about those two being Keith-Seabrook
when neither of them is a seabrook. More like Keith-Campbell. LaLonde is listed at a size similar to dunc, and Leddy is even smaller.
Dylan Olsen might be the next Seabrook-type though.
Ditto for CNS
Or Brown and Wilson
Well, maybe just a little.
Beach
Does this pretty much guarantee Beach’s spot on the roster for opening night?
Oddly, mentioning Jim Cornelison immediately made me think of...
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Aug 11, 2010 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it means there will be the cap space to take him with us
for opening night, if his play merits the promotion. I still won’t be surprised if they decide Beach could use some more time playing regular shifts at Rockford, and make him a mid-season call-up. But it sure gives Beach something to play for in the preseason.
by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 10, 2010 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I like this signing for multiple reasons
If Boynton is the Sopel replacement, I’m ok with that, and Boyton is 2 years younger than sopes.
Signing Boyton to such a cheap deal gives the hawks a lot of roster flexibility, whether they use it to sign another forward, bring up an expensive one from rockford, or keep it as a cap buffer just in case.
Boyton looked solid in the last (1 or 2? I think 2) games of the SC finals, which is a pretty damn tough spot to come in to.
This takes the pressure off with regard to rushing along a young Dman who might not be ready.
Ditto for CNS
So if what I have read is correct,
the Hawks are left with around 2 mil for 2 forwards. Who on the list of remaining free agents could make the cut, or do we hold on to as much of that cash as possible and bring up someone else from Rockford?
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How old is he? Can he still play?
Seriously, I didn’t really see much about him at all last season.
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by Preacher000 on Aug 10, 2010 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
He's 35 & played 38 games for Boston last year
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
He made $700,000 last year
if the Hawks could get him for $600,000 or less, I would say it’d be a decent pickup.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
I would buy a "Satan - 66" jersey.
I know that’s not his number but someone has to talk him into that.
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if the devils picked him up
they would have to find a way to allow three digit numbers on jerseys.
if they don't pick him up
it would be the greatest wasted opportunity for the NHL to sell jerseys…..ever.
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by puppetmasterp on Aug 11, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I still think
Afinogenov would have been a nice addition that probably could have been picked up cheaply, but he signed with the KHL already. Other than him I really don’t see a lot of choices except Kennedy, but 1 mil is too much for this team at this time.
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by HjammerTime on Aug 11, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
The 35 posted above
is Miroslav Satan’s age. Boynton is 31.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Great move @ the price!
Between this and Turco’s contract we are looking great in terms of cap space for the last few slots remaining to fill. Would prefer Boynton to be our 7th defenseman, but he was very capable for us down the stretch and wouldn’t be the worst scenario to have him on the 3rd line.
boynton badass
see I’m down with having Boynton I totally respect the way he stood up for Seabrook and stuff in his first game as a hawk.
signings...
it is kinda annoying though how long it takes for the Hawks to announce that they have signed someone, still no word on Hendry being signed.
by admiralcheese on Aug 11, 2010 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Hendry signed last week
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
I think it was $600k/l yr?
That’s what I’m remembering, though I’d have to look it up to be sure of the number.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Aug 11, 2010 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions
well yeah
i know but it hasn’t been confirmed or anything on nhl.com or the blackhawks website.
by admiralcheese on Aug 11, 2010 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions
the Hawks site is sometimes WEEKS behind on signings.
-Matt Cooke is a turd burglar. He burgles ALL the turds.-
-At least he's not Cam Janssen. What a bag of dicks that guy is.-
the site is only updated
when the organization makes an official announcement. So it’s more like the organization is weeks behind on the signings.
by Katherine215 on Aug 11, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Bowman all but confirmed it
During that Haugh column earlier.
I guess the price is right ...
but I would have preferred some young kid up with the club rather than this jackamo. I think considering him a suitable Sopel replacement is more in delusional territory than it is optimistic.
by Billy Charlesbois on Aug 11, 2010 4:52 AM CDT reply actions
more delusional than optimistic?
I except Boyton to be at least as good as Sopel at even strength. Sopes was often times a disaster during 5 on 5 play. As others have mentioned, Boynton is quicker than sopes and is more physical.
The only time I expect there to be a dropoff is maybe on the PK.
Ditto for CNS
Sopel did more than kill penalties.
Boynton may be quicker and more physical, but Sopes knew how to be in the right lanes to put himself in the way of shots from the point or the side night in and night out. Boynton hasn’t shown that so far, and that’s what the team needs. Sopel was often the second goalie out there on the ice, sometimes literally (as when he’d step into the crease when Nemo was against the post and protect the other side with shinpads or chest to block crazy slapshots).
I do have hopes that Boynton can learn the same skill late in his career, because right now this team is lacking a shot-blocker on the third pair (assuming that the third pair is Boynton/Hendry). Maybe Hjammer can give tutorials.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Aug 11, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree
I said this throughout the season, Sopes was a great shot blocker on the PK, but any time he carried the puck I was on pins and needles. God help us when he had to skate to intercept an opponent. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a stand up guy and great on the PK but I don’t think he’ll be missed full strength.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal.
That's fine
Hackerer is too much of a lose canon and was ruining my rep as an even-keeled reasonable guy ;)
Btw hacks, whatever happened to your fanpost?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Aug 11, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
You know
Like when the BBC destroyed those episodes of Doctor Who. You lost canon.
Go jump in Toews Lake.
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Poor Hartnell, so much work lost.
The Beebs still doesn’t have all of the first Doctor’s regeneration sequence reconstructed.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Aug 12, 2010 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
you don't have to get dogmatic about it
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by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 11, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm protesting
al double leters.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Aug 11, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Since it's only 60 miles from Detroit,
here’s the real Hell
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Oh, what sad times are these when passing ruffians can rec at will the grammatical errors of their elders.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Aug 12, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
damn hippies
Not all those who wander are lost.
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by Johnny Lava on Aug 13, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
well
with my recent Kopecky rants, I didn’t want misrepresent your opinion of TomoKop with the ditto for CNS signature.
As far as the fanpost goes, the train kind of got derailed because I couldn’t do it the way I had envisioned. I still plan on doing it the simplified way, I’ll let you know when I need the video help. I definitely going to try and get it done soon.
Ditto for Badgerdano
I thought Boynton was OK in the playoffs
he was better than I expected and didn’t appear to be hurting us any while on the ice (at the most high intensity part of the season).
I’m OK with this – for a minimum wage, low minuutes 3rd D pairing guy, Boynton will do (and better than many of our other alternatives).
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Confusion will be my epitaph.
by krome on Aug 11, 2010 7:15 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Way to go Nicky
He was a great replacement for the struggling Hendry in the silver thing run. Both signings were a bargain. But, we still need a body to take the many bruises that Catfish took!
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by thepuckstopshere31 on Aug 11, 2010 7:24 AM CDT reply actions
Nice job Stan
$500K for a solid 8 min a game
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Yes and No
I dont think this is a bad move per se. I just want to see what this Vishnevskiy guy can do. Everything you read on him sounds like he would fit right in with the Hawks D.
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I would like to see what he can do also
However they might feel the need to give him a few games down in the AHL to see how he does. I can’t complain with Boynton. Him and Scott will be switching from Pressbox to ice quite a bit.
We hope Hendry can improve on last year and maybe with a full season he can. If he doesn’t then we call up Vishnevskiy. Just wish pre-season would start so we can get an idea and the lineups would be set soon.
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Vishy's had around 150 games in the AHL
I think they already know he’s capable of playing in the NHL.
Exactly!
IMO Vish’ will start the season with the big club as will a few other young guys. The reasoning behind this is that Stan & everyone else knows that these guys are the team’s future, and they must become familiar with the game the Hawks play ASAP. I really think that Boynton is gonna be used just as he was last year, and that was as a dependable fill in.
It has to be in the best interest of the organization to get these kids whipped into shape (playing Hawks style hockey) as quickly as possible so the team will know if they are gonna’ be big or busts. Don’t forget that our cap situation is not too much better next year than it was this year. Therefore the team should allow as much opportunity as they can allow for these guys to develop.
Sorry if that was a bit of a long winded rant, I just realized I am extremely hungover!
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Vish is only 22 and...........
Dmen are typically late bloomers.
It is possible that his growth could be stunted while playing only 10 minutes a night on the third pairing.
I’m not completely opposed to bringing him up, but it’s not a now or never scenario for Vish, whereas with a guy like Hendry, who is 26 and has never played a full season in the NHL, it’s time to see what he is capable of.
Ditto for Badgerdano
Agree with Hackerar
Plus having 2 other d-men in Boynton and Scott (even though Scott “can” play forward) I just don’t see him being on the big club yet. Also Hendry will be there unless he struggles for a long period of time, but even still he signed a 1-way contact I beleive so I just don’t see how Vish’ would get much time this year. I’ll just wait till the training camp and pre-season starts..
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While I certainly agree
with you & Hackerar I still believe it’s crucial that these kids get as much ice time as the team can allow. If the kids are gonna’ blossom we need to have an idea as soon as possible, if they are gonna’ blow we need to know that also.
As far as Hendry goes, you’re correct in this being a make or break time for him. On the other hand I haven’t really seen much of anything that gives me hope for Hendry as anything more than a third pairing at best.
Given that Vish is only 22, but has played so much in the AHL, where he performed very well, he should be given the opportunity to continue his progression, that is unless he craps out in camp. However, given that he has performed well just about everywhere he has played (when he was given the chance) I believe he will continue to get better and better even if it is by only getting 10 minutes a night to begin with (everyone has to start some place).
Either way the team has quite a problem on their hands. Great players already manning the 1st & 2nd pairing really only allows for those up and comers to get maybe 10 minutes a night. So what do they do? Give them those few minutes a night and hope that it doesn’t hurt their confidence, or give them big minutes in Rockford and hope that doesn’t hurt their confidence.
Either way, no moves can really be made unless some room is made on the 2nd pairing which I don’t see happening anytime soon.
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If any young defensemen show promise,
it wouldn’t hurt to give them more minutes early in the season and give the vets fewer minutes. Last season was a long one. This season will be too. I wouldn’t mind seeing the big four get a few less minutes early in the year to keep them fresh for the playoffs (required salt thrown over shoulder).
Something
will have to be done in order to create some kind of balance that achieves several the goals of keeping “core” players fresh & injury free, development of young players, and above all winning games.
As long as it is not to the detriment of the team, I believe it may be a good idea to do some switching with the defensive pairs on certain nights ( when allowable) so players can get a feel for other players working with them. Of course the same could be said for the forward lines, but for some reason I feel that the D pairings work or depend a lot more on chemistry with the other partner to get in that flow that Seabs & Duncs have and Soupy & Hammer got going last year.
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The way Dunc held up last year
including the Olympics, makes me confident his workload won’t go down- in fact, I was just thinking that Biscuit oughtta be north of 25, maybe 26 next year hissownself.
Soup logged some large minutes late. He and Super Contracto should be lookin’ at 23,24 next year.
Goes for forwards too- we were spoiled last year by our top guys logging fewer minutes than their counterparts on other teams- not so this year.
This is what Capopylypse means. Can the boys fill these shoes? Can’t fuckin’ wait!
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
And that's why
the coaching staff needs to afford minutes for the young guys so they can get out there and learn the tendencies of the veteran players and their ways.
If these kids can’t get the minutes they need to develop they are never gonna’ be able to fill the roles that need to be filled.
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And that's why
key, underseasoned prospects oughtta stay where they can get plenty of minutes and develop. Check back in January.
If any of the “supporting cast” emerge, the minutes will be there. Even with the numbers I threw out, there’s 18 minutes of unaccounted D-time and 35 minutes for forwards per night- and no injuries.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
round-and-round we go....
where we stop, nobody knows….
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by puppetmasterp on Aug 11, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions
And that's why
you should never yell.
by Germware on Aug 12, 2010 2:43 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Screw it!
I say we have enough talent among the veterans to throw some young blood out there and give them a trial by fire. Sure some need lots of seasoning like Leddy & LaLonde, but Vish has played damn near 200 games in the AHL. I say get him in the line up and let him play, if he stinks up the place ship him out!
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YEAH!!
Just think how could Toews could have been if he spent more time in the AHL!
Not all those who wander are lost.
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by Johnny Lava on Aug 13, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
My point exactly!
Get them up & get them going, or get them the hell out and let’s play some damn hockey because the withdrawal is getting serious now!!!!!!
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I disagree
Toews & Kane are exceptions to the general rule.
Going a bit slower and seasoning young players for an approriate time at a lower level produces much better results. The more normal result of rushing a player along is that we saw with Grant Mulvey or Eric Daze or Everett Sanipass or Ken Yaremchuk – maybe a couple good years, maybe not, but in the end a lot of unrealized potential.
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Why is that?
With Daze it was injury. I don’t recall what happened to the others.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
Because krome is an old coot
and don’t like kids
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my Captain is better than your Captain
you can start a club
travel with your lawnchairs to different neighborhoods to yell at kids.
I’d join
Not all those who wander are lost.
my Captain is better than your Captain
I like kids - and I hope the Haks continue with their current system
they are doing far better bringing young talent along than they used to do. I think it ought to continue (because they used to be absolutely abominable about bringing young talent along).
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I don't think I've ever been excited
to see kids playing this much before. They’re getting into a good system on a team that has a realiable group of scary good players already.
Not all those who wander are lost.
my Captain is better than your Captain
Excepting the Hawks model...
To me there are two things that you are going to have to accept to be a Hawks fan. At least under the current regime.
One, is that the Hawks will spend their money on their d-pairs over spending money on their goalie.
Two, is that the Hawks will error in bringing up a kid a year too late instead of a year too early.
In the lng run, erring toward bringing them up a bit late is safer
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Watch it! - You young whipper snapper!
I just put some new tennis balls on my walker, and I can move pretty darn fast!
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Daze injury - could coming up too young have been a factor?
17 to 21 years ago aren’t fully physically mature. Tossing them into NHL play can contribute to those sorts of chronic injuries that end careers early.
Also, getting 3rd or 4th line minutes (quality and situationally) in the NHL doesn’t bring a kid along – particularly in the old Hawks way, where any typical “rookie mistake” got a kid lots of bench or press box time rather than continued ice time.
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
No No
Daze was just made out of peanut brittle. That guy could throw his back out lacing his skates.
I’m not saying he wasn’t great when he wasn’t hurt, but fuck me, he had the back of an 88 year old!
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
And how did he acquire the bad back?
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Lacing his own skates.
That should be banned. (I hate having to lace my own skates!)
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
and how do you know that?
a lot of back trouble is the result of long term issues – and a non-physically mature fellow playing major league contact sport with full grown men might lead to that
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Does the NHL have a min age?
Like NFL and NBA?
Not all those who wander are lost.
my Captain is better than your Captain
It's 18
Although technically I think you can be drafted when you’re 17 but you have to turn 18 before the start of the preseason plus a player has to be 18 when he signs a contract.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Daze was drafted
when he was 18, but didn’t play his first full season with the Hawks till he was 21, and then didn’t begin having back problems until he was 31 from a herniated disc, which more than likely came from one big hit or a bad fall. I work in the health profession and it is very rare for a person to have a “slight” herniation and just let it go. Most people who get a herniation get them fixed immediately. Daze got his worked on 3 times, but was unable to play, it happens.
Not to mention that Daze’s biggest fault was that even though he had the build, he was afraid to play a physical game. If I had to make a SWAG (scientific wild ass guess) I would say he received a big hit from someone or fell awkwardly and that was how his herniation was produced, not from being brought up too soon because that wasn’t the case by any stretch.
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OK - so drop him from the "rushed along" list
I do know that Grant Mulvey belongs there (brought up at 17 or 18), and there have been many others
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Mulvey
did play his first full season when he was 18, but then again you have to look at the era. During those days there wasn’t a big emphasis placed on physical fitness at the team or individual level. So yes I would say he was brought up quickly, but to say that that hurt him I couldn’t say with any certainty.
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Watching rerun - Calgary @ Hawks Gm 1 2009
Young Hjammer looking raw but promising here.
As I recall, he was brought up later in the year, (probably to replace that guy we traded for Sammy Pahlsson?)
My point is, these guys need to spend time in Rockford, compete for a call up later in the year.
Speaking of Pahlsson, (or Madden) we really need another face off % guy.
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I'm watching it too
I’m going to miss watching Ladd play.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
I think that one hurts the most.
Ladd was a freaking steal. Ruutu for Ladd may have been Tallon’s best trade. It’s at least in the top 3.
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
Patrick Sharp
for Matt Ellison. Funnily enough, I didn’t like this trade when it happened (although at the time I’d only been following for about a year) because it seemed like we were trading nothing in return for nothing.
I had originally wrote
that it was Tallon’s best move until I thought of the Sharp trade and the Versteeg! trade. I think that those three are debatable as Tallon’s top moves.
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
The Boynton signing is all about aging that fine "D" wine a bit longer
Someone will bust through by December, when opportunity knocks.
What’s a lose cannon? Something used in Columbus?
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Is Boynton even a lock on the 3rd?
Who knows how much alternation there may be with the 3rd line as the year progresses. Don’t assume that Vishnevskiy will spend the season in the AHL.
Vishnevskiy in the NHL doesn't make a lot of sense right now
If he’s going to be here, it’s going to be in a third-pair minutes scenario, wherein his only responsibility would be to not get the team killed when he’s out there. The problem is, his is a high risk game, one which he’s still finding at the pro level which will at some point get the team killed.
It’s far better for him to log top-four minutes in RockVegas and get some power play time than to play sparingly in the show. Same goes for Lalonde and Leddy, barring any long-term injuries in the top four (KNOCK ON WOOD).
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Things have changed forever, we're the Ramblin' Boys of Pleasure
Injuries...
Don’t even speak of such evils. Did Vishevskiy hurt the Stars when he spent some time with them?
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Well...
He did score a goal on the stars.
Aside from that he’s been ok. Had 2 points in his 5 games in the NHL. Small sample size but if he can keep up those numbers he’d be more than suitable.
I love how Boyle was laughing
If he could only have seen the future.
Drink it up!
In Stanley we trust! 34,38,61, and finally 2010!!!
I really dont expect to see
Lalonde or Leddy up with the big boys until Campbell is moved in all honesty. Both of them are practically Campbell clones and they will be a nice cheap 2nd D pairing with Hammer. Either that or they may be developed and groomed to be trade fodder…. who knows… We are pretty stacked on good D prospects
Drink it up!
In Stanley we trust! 34,38,61, and finally 2010!!!
Were poor. We don’t get nice things. Or even mediocre things.
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by HjammerTime on Aug 11, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
The legend of Sopel
I’m pretty sure the idea of a comment like “he’s no Sopel” would have been incomprehensible a mere 6 months ago.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Aug 11, 2010 11:48 AM CDT reply actions 5 recs
I'm no Dr., but
I would say that he has had his nose broken before. Maybe he should wear that full face shield all the time! I give props to Lappy for being hard core, but my GOD!
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Because,
He was Master Sergent Sopel.
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
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by burpchelischili on Aug 11, 2010 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I can live with this
Now who can we trade to with the Wild to get Madden back here?
The sun never sets on a badass
+1
Maybe we can send them Cam Barker? Oh wait…
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Aug 11, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Trade Kane
He’s lazy
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Is it true?
Have you seen a ghost lately?
Yes, I'd like a ham and cheese whamlet and some whammy fries!
by thepuckstopshere31 on Aug 11, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
He does have power over death now
As we know from the classic Seventh Seal, and the equally awesome Bill and Ted’s Bogus Journey, you have to beat death in a game in order to come back from the dead. While Antonius Block chose chess, the Wyld Stallyns beat death in such high intellectual games as Battleship and Twister; which I have to believe is the path Johnsson took. Or Rock Paper Scissors.
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
I Love how the Wild fans
Were kinda down on Leddy saying he was never going to be anything better than a career AHL guy and stuff like that…. Honestly maybe they dont know how to develop players or something. Not saying Leddy has proved much as a pro player yet but the Organization seems pretty high on him at this point.
Drink it up!
In Stanley we trust! 34,38,61, and finally 2010!!!
Quick question, you just reminded me to ask:
Where does “organ-i-zation” come from? Is it ’Hawks-specific? Is it a reference to a TV show or something? Does it mean anything?
It's a Canadian pronunciation
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
American pronunciation: Or-gun-uh-ZAY-shun
Canadian pronunciation: Or-gun-EYE-zay-shun (with a slightly extended EYE syllable)
by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 11, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, cool
that’s how we pronounce it, too. But don’t you pronounce “organised” as Or-gun-eye-sd like Canadians/Brits?
we do.
we like to be difficult and confuse foreigners here.
by Katherine215 on Aug 11, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
No plus we spell it
organized.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
There might be a possibilty
that we pronounce it the same. I would have thought “zd” more than “sd”. By the way (and I’m only joking) The letter “Z” is pronounced “Zee” not “Zed”
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
I believe Steve Rosenbloom coined the term during the Wirtz Administration.
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one of the dear departed Wirtz family members prounounced it that way, with a very distinct emphasis on the the "i"
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
now that you say - indeed, it was Pulford
I can still hear the sound of if I try. It was over-pronounced, even allowing for a Canadian being the one saying it
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by krome on Aug 12, 2010 7:08 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Stars fans seemed to be more knowledgeable back in the day
Maybe the Wild lost those generations of fans.
Here's a good read if anyone wants.
Talks about the breakdown of everything and I thought it was actually realistic.
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or should I correct myself
What we have all been saying…
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i'm apparently fobidden from seeing that
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by puppetmasterp on Aug 11, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Hmmmm
Its nothing vulgar! It’s the girl who rides the 7 or 8 foot unicycle and kicks bowls and plates on top of her head. It’s one of the most amazing feats I have witnessed live. Of course, I have never been to any of those Cirque shows, which would probably blow this out of the water
Afroman likes tall cans.
Can you see this?
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
The Toronto Sun reports:
The contracts of Blackhawks winger Marian Hossa and other NHL stars with front-loaded deals are unlikely to be struck down despite ongoing NHL investigations, league sources said.
I agree with this
All of this has sure struck fear into the hearts of GMs and owners….wait, aren’t they the NHL too?
I just think the whole thing is weird — these contract rules are what both parties agreed to in the CBA and now both parties are doing all they can to circumvent them with these long term, front-loaded contracts. Am I oversimplfying this?
If the league truly wants to drive the point home
they have the ability to do so. The CBA allows for the office of the commissioner to negate any registered deal if they eventually believe that it circumvents the cap. Now that the standard has been set, it’s imaginable that they may go ahead and disallow those deals.
Essentially, Bettman continues to have the ability to be a total dick in the best interest league continuity.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Aug 11, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
No way
does he negate deals that have already been in effect for over a year. it would almost certainly guarantee another lockout come renegotiation time.
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I'm not certain that he will,
I’m just saying the current CBA allows it.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Aug 11, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
By no means do
I think he will. If he messed with one, he would have to mess with them all, which includes a player on a very big revenue generating team not to mention winning a Stanley Cup.
I think the standard has been set by Kovy, and the league put their foot down. What happened in the past cannot be undone, but I wouldn’t expect to see any more deals that are even a little fishy.
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You can't negate his deal a year into it
Considering what the Hawks just gave up to keep what they consider a “core.” It’s way- WAY to late to think about nixing Hossa’s contract now.
That this is being talked about at all is completely fucked up and that Bettman hasn’t jumped in as commissioner and stopped all this nonsense is equally as fucked up and somehow, I’m surprised by neither. But it needs to stop. It’s insanity.
"You can't negate his deal a year into it"
Actually they could, but to be honest, I don’t think they would in this case. If there was a circumvention of the rules by some form of subterfuge, then yes, I think they not only could but would negate the Hossa and other contracts.
Thing is, there isn’t any “new” information on any of those contracts. What was possibly in violation was plainly obvious at the time the contracts were approved. As such, I don’t think they will be negated, now.
He's too tall... no wait!
Seriously, I am surprised his name never comes up. Did he break a draft pick?
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I have to say it somewhere, why not here right!
HOLY SHIT, I cannot wait for Hockey to start back up! Would they just start camp now! This MLB season has pretty much blown shit, time to move on, I want to hear the Horn and Dagger with Foley making the call!
Okay now I feel a little better.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Aug 12, 2010 6:02 AM CDT reply actions
I admire your exuberance
And I too share your sentiment regarding the forthcoming start of the hockey season, however, we do have a first place team currently playing in this town. Therefore I would say that this MLB season has become very interesting while I am also looking forward to puck drop. I’ve also been up for 36 hours straight as I cannot sleep, went on a 4 mile bike ride to try to remedy that, gave up and went to Gin, so please forgive me if I sound condescending and/or “bitchy” to use the parlance of our times.
Back off man, I'm a scientist
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
by BigCSouthside on Aug 12, 2010 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions
i'm glad they're doing well
but it seems like everytime i watch them play, the other team comes from behind to win, in the 9th on a walk off or something… so i assumed i should stop watching their games. which doesn’t help my being bored.
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by puppetmasterp on Aug 12, 2010 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions
funny thing is
most Sox fans still have this cynical view on the season, despite erasing a massive deficit in about a month’s time, so you wouldn’t be alone there
Back off man, I'm a scientist
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
by BigCSouthside on Aug 12, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Columbus has a first place baseball team?
What league?
Go jump in Toews Lake.
Aubrey: old German for king of the elves. Huff: English for...huff.
by shinkicker on Aug 12, 2010 10:09 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
heh
i thought the same thing.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Aug 12, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Have I been cast out already?
CHICAGO! the best and only city, and the only city I call home. Right now I am just a pilgrim in an unholy land
Back off man, I'm a scientist
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
by BigCSouthside on Aug 12, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
The waiting period on casting out is shorter for those that go to Ohio
(mostly I was just picking on your use of “this town”)
Go jump in Toews Lake.
Aubrey: old German for king of the elves. Huff: English for...huff.
by shinkicker on Aug 12, 2010 11:07 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
bogus
Chicago will always be my town, even when I was at VMI, I had a hand made placard on my door made by the armorer (who was a southsider) that read “Chicago Embassy”. I took 30 demerits for it and refused to take it down. It was a sanctuary for all us idiots from Chicago
Back off man, I'm a scientist
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
by BigCSouthside on Aug 12, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Being a Cub fan,
and the fact that this has been a horrible season, I think it’s been a great year for baseball. By the time the Hawks became the 2010 Stanley Cup Champions, (I will never get tired of typing / reading that), the World Cup started and Capocalypse was upon us. This Saturday the Bears play their first pre-season game.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
on their 16 game march to mediocrity
but I’ll still be watching those guys stumble around Soldier Field. When is the first NHL preseason game?
Back off man, I'm a scientist
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
by BigCSouthside on Aug 12, 2010 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions
September 22nd
against Tampa Bay in Winnipeg.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Fuckin sweet
gracias, cdz
Back off man, I'm a scientist
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
by BigCSouthside on Aug 12, 2010 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions
The first team O looked alright last night
Our depth is for shit though. Anyone goes down, especially on the O Line and we’re screwed.
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
ditto for puppet
i am so bored. bored, bored, bored, bored, bored, bored………etc.
times infinity.
SIGH.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Aug 12, 2010 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm bored as well
I just can’t sit in front of a tv and watch baseball. Even with the Sox in first as Puppet said, I watch and they lose. I still can’t watch a full game because baseball is the slowest sport out there but it’s something. I’ll take watching the Bears and there average season for now. At least till it’s time for some pre-season hockey and the first puck drops. It seems really really far away but at least I’ve got a new tv to watch this year!
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try watching Cricket
if you want to see something slooooow. Congrats on the new TV though
Back off man, I'm a scientist
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
by BigCSouthside on Aug 12, 2010 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions
I caught a break
I usually don’t get tv’s through craigslist that work but I found one for $170 on a 53’’. Thing works great. Now to hook up the surround sound to it. Makes me even more excited.
I have a.d.d. so my attention span for watching baseball is about as bad as telling my daughter to sit still and not talk for 2 mins.
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I just did a surround sound system in my house
all I can say is, dont give up early on it, it is a pain in the ass, but WELL worth it (especially when I get to use it to piss off my domestic disturbance prone neighbors)
Back off man, I'm a scientist
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
by BigCSouthside on Aug 12, 2010 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I love the amount of guys that are shocked I set up the surround sound in my house. It was a pain in the ass, but I must agree very well worth it.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
I wouldn't be shocked by it
but i would say that it’s pretty cool to see a woman that has one. Rare to come by considering most women would tell me to turn it down.
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I'm an electronics freak
I would rather shop at Best Buy than go clothes shopping any day. My friends buy things and have me come over to set it up for them. They call me their own personal Geek Squad.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
Electronics are my favorite too
my only problem is it’s the ONE FUCKING thing that I can’t put together. I mean seriously Blue is green wire and red is purple? WTF is that? Ok done w/ my mini rant, but i do love best buy and anything electronic just don’t ask me to hook it up. I either pay someone or call someone who I’ll pay with liquor
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One more interesting piece of the Stacie puzzle.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
I'm not really all that interesting
We all have to have hobbies to keep us busy until Hockey starts again.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
Drinking is a good hobby to have
I hate having a life outside of hockey, it’s pretty boring. I’d much rather be watching a game and enjoying a nice cold one. I think I’ve outplayed NHL 10’ and watched all the movies I can think of watching.
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+1
well, except the setting things up. A bunch of my friends are engineers; they don’t ask me to set up anything – although I always end up calculating the check because none of them know how to do basic math anymore.
Electronics/videogame store > clothing store
I have surround sound, too.
I didn’t set it up though, I was too busy moving/unpacking so my friend did it for me.
I did lay and grout my own kitchen tile, does that count?
by Katherine215 on Aug 12, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
that is harder
Back off man, I'm a scientist
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by BigCSouthside on Aug 12, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree
I don’t do manual labor. It ends up looking like crap.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
I did my Dad's hardwood floor
it was an amazing pain in the ass, I’m just glad he had a contact when he re did his bathroom
Back off man, I'm a scientist
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by BigCSouthside on Aug 12, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
My parents redid one of their bathrooms. Needless to say I was free labor.
Holy crap that was one hell of a week. Though there is something about a project like that when its done and looks good that is real satisfying.
until you really look at it
and you start to see the amazing fuck ups you made along the way. It’s like the first time you ever do pottery. Yes, what was created may hold water, but goddamn, it looks terrible doing it. Unfortunately it is the same with laying hardwood
Back off man, I'm a scientist
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
by BigCSouthside on Aug 12, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I remodeled my whole house
Minus the kitchen. I can do the manual work, it’s the electronics that get me. Oh and anything to do with gas; always afraid i’m going to blow up the house.
Laying word floor is actually pretty easy. All you need to do is cut it to size, use the rented giant nail gun. Now just don’t ask me to put it in any sort of design
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electric is pretty easy
same with gas. Its far easier in a pre-established house. Mom was obsessed with it looking pretty, so it took a lot of work from the Old Man and I. It was Dad’s fault, he indulges her every whim.
Back off man, I'm a scientist
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
by BigCSouthside on Aug 12, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Reversed roles
My mother is the handy man and my father is the useless guy who sits at the kitchen table indulging in his every whim..
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Actually ours turned out pretty well.
Granted it wasn’t perfect, but considering none of us have any training it looks pretty damn good. I guess it helps that my mom is about as detail oriented as it comes.
My tile turned out amazing!
There is a career for me in laying tile if I ever need it. I now stand in the doorway gazing adoringly at it.
I would not say I am handy in the least, but since I am on a tight budget I (and any friends who volunteer/get drafted to help) am learning. I am not brave enough to try electric, gas, or plumbing yet. maybe in my next house.
by Katherine215 on Aug 12, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Confucius say
Better a career in laying tile than something else.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
why thank you!
(I was shocked I managed to do it, too)
by Katherine215 on Aug 12, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Too busy at work the past couple of weeks to be bored.
Almost wish I was bored.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
Well since most of us are bored
At least single game tickets go on sale Monday (thanks to cdz3210) for the fan shot.
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How come no Headline Love for Hendry?
We signed him too. Frankly, I feel much better about Hendry than I do Boyton.
Not that I don’t like Boyton, but he’s prone to fighting and often leads with his face and that can be bad.
Boynton
I still can’t find confirmation anywhere of the Boynton signing. Am I missing something?
www.mjt.org
it was posted on capgeek
but the Hawks haven’t announced it yet. They seem to take awhile to announce these things after word gets out that it’s done.
by Katherine215 on Aug 12, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Hmm. But no one anywhere is reporting it … except Capgeek. Seems weird that they’d have ears where nobody else does.
www.mjt.org
true, but it seems to be par for the course
the beat writers only usually report what is officially announced from the Hawks. We knew Skille and Bickell had been resigned awhile before it was “officially” announced, I think.
Well, Bleacher Report is reporting it too, but I don’t really like that site much.
by Katherine215 on Aug 12, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I was thinking the same thing the other day. Hendry certainly did more for the Hawks last year than Boynton.
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by HjammerTime on Aug 12, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Granted he did more in the season
but when the post-season came around who replaced him? Thats the best arguement I got…
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Hendry was removed in the playoffs
because Q wanted more physicality and Hendry had produced zero points. Boynton matched Hendry’s point total, and both had two post-season penalty minutes. I think Boynton would do well serving the same role he did this past season, namely biding his time in the minors until Brian Campbell eats dasher and Kim Johnsson disappears.
by Jedediah Lawler on Aug 12, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
See, Im looking for Nick
to fill Sopel’s role. I wan’t this guy to be our flack jacket next year. Occasionally he will fuck up, but I want him to be the guy who puts himself in the line of fire.
Back off man, I'm a scientist
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
by BigCSouthside on Aug 12, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Hilarity at Nucks Misconduct.
“Nucks Misconduct ran a poll this week asking if fans would be enraged or pleased if Luongo’s long-term deal was voided. The majority of respondents voted: “Pissed. I think Luongo is going to rebound this year. Re-sign him for as long as possible.”
Anyone else laugh at the “rebound” comment?
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SCH should have a poll for how many times Lu is going to "rebound" against the hawks
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
by desertindian on Aug 12, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he'll rebound - repeatedly
Look!
Another rebound by Lu!
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
You'd think they'd learned something over the past few years
Watching their “captain” cough it up repeatedly. And his whiney beyootch attitude towards any Hawks player who dared to crowd his field of vision seemed to seep into his teammates inability to control their emotions as the series progressed. The least they could do is strip him of that title – I don’t know who else they could give it to, maybe Bieksla. Watching him continually run to the refs in order to call goalie interference was quite damning, IMHO. If the Hawks had taken that attitude, they would never have won game 1 against Philly, with that lopsided penalty ratio.
i heard that....they had the hawks reeling in the first few games
then all of a sudden our favorite canucks from last year showed up and the tears never stopped from there
I can't wait to dive into a pool and end up in a jacuzzi
by desertindian on Aug 12, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Bad game, but.....
Game One against the Nucks was the second worst Blackhawks game I’ve ever been too. Sitting through that was torture..Coach Q’s wife was seated right behind me and the look on her face as the buzzer sounded was that of pure despair.
But no game will ever be worse than a Hawks-Wings game years ago when Detoilet scored two goals with under a minute left including one in the very last second to beat the Hawks. My dad, who is very soft spoken and hardly ever swears made the car ride home both excruciating and hilarious all at the same time.
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Bad game experience
I took some South Carolina based business associates to a Hawks game to show them what hockey was all about. The Hawks were playing the Preds who were at that time a new expansion team so I figured the Hawks would surely win that game. I really don’t recall all of the nightmarish details but the Preds scored something like 3 or 4 goals in the first 10 minutes of the game. I hung my head in shame.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
I don't understand how Nucks fans
aren’t praying that Lu’s contract gets voided. Considering the current goalie market, if his deal got voided, you’d think you could re-sign him to a 3 or 4 year deal at 5 or 6 per. Would another team really swoop in and offer Luongo 7 or even 6 mil per year?
What happens if, in 3 years, Lu is still hasn’t been able to win a cup? You’d have another nabakov situation; sure he’s still a good regular season goalie, but the team would like to go in a different direction.
Now from a Hawks fan’s perspective, I certainly don’t want Lu’s deal to get voided because that would mean Hossa’s would going along with it.
Ditto for Badgerdano
has Lu been playing under his already?
I thought it started this coming year.
Go jump in Toews Lake.
Aubrey: old German for king of the elves. Huff: English for...huff.
not sure if he has or not
either way, if it got voided, they’d be starting over.
Ditto for Badgerdano
If I was a Nucks fan
(besides crying myself to sleep every night) I’d want Reboundo’s contract nixed. Like you said, in 3 years that could be a real anchor around their necks.
I’m not worrying about Hossa mainly because he’s played one season of it.
Not all those who wander are lost.
my Captain is better than your Captain
I was speaking to the voiding Lu's ---> voiding Hossa's
but Hossa is the only one that’s come up constantly that’s already played under his contract.
Go jump in Toews Lake.
Aubrey: old German for king of the elves. Huff: English for...huff.
I didn't read that into your comment
I don’t think it would matter that Hoss has already played a year. The bigger precident to set would be voiding a contract that the league had previously approved. Lu and Hoss would both fall under that category. I couldn’t see the league voiding Lu’s and then letting Hossa’s slide because he was a year in. I could be wrong though.
Ditto for Badgerdano
Anything is possible, of course.
However, I just can’t see the league reversing a previously approved contract. That would give them zero credibility.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
um...
the league has credibility? you mean beyond blind faith in the Wheel of Justice?
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by puppetmasterp on Aug 13, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, beyond the WoJ which mainly screws with the players.
Maybe I’m naive, but I can’t imagine the owners putting up with that crap with respect to their players contracts. I’d flip out if I were an owner and GB did that to me.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
Wheel of Morality, Turn Turn Turn, Tell Us The Lesson We Should Learn
And the moral of today’s story is: If you can’t say anything nice, you’re probably at the Ice Capades.
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
I think
that is what I read also (that it starts this coming year).
You are correct, it starts 2010-2011.
I just don’t see the Nucks having the depth they’ll need in years to come with that much money tied up in their Goalies.
And Blackhawks fans are experts in “Too much money tied up in their Goalies”. n’est-ce pas?
Formerly Byfuglie33
O/T
At the trial of that guy from 4chan who hacked Sarah Palin’s email account, 4chan’s founder (Christopher Poole/moot) had to explain to the court what Rickrolling is. Link.
hahaha
that line of questioning had so little to do with the actual trial. my guess is that the lawyers couldn’t decipher the posts so they had to ask him first.
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Aug 12, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions
or they had some old jury members
who would have no clue what it was. sadly, they have to lay a foundation for all evidence, even if that evidence says “omg, wtf, LOL!”
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Aug 12, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions
That's the 4th article I've seen on this
one of them states that it’s not true.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Having to explain 4chan at all is hilarious
Actually, my first trip to the whirlaway, there was some hipster who was talking to his friends all “OH MY GOD YOU GUYS I DISCOVERED AN AMAZING PLACE.”
I was laughing pretty hard.
Go jump in Toews Lake.
Aubrey: old German for king of the elves. Huff: English for...huff.
by shinkicker on Aug 12, 2010 1:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
really?
i’d never heard of it before this thread.
by Katherine215 on Aug 12, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
It's where lolcats & a lot of other memes were born.
It’s basically responsible in one way or another for most of the non-porn content of the internet.
re - lurker
i wish it didn’t have a negative connotation since it certainly has its online perks. ‘lurking’ on a blog is certainly different from physically lurking in many places.
I don't consider it to have any negative connotations
I just think of it as meaning the lurker is too busy/shy to start posting, but I could be alone in thinking this.
spent a couple minutes on 4chan
Interesting place; still not understanding the purpose though…yet.
I see the term “beta” thrown around quite often, directed at the other commenters as an insult.
‽ ⅋ ‽
I went to the main page
4chan.org in the “Popular Threads” section I went to the health & fitness: Cardiobunny thread.
‽ ⅋ ‽
Never been on that board
I think “beta” is localised to the fitness board, ‘cause I’ve never seen it before.
Anyway, it’s hard to explain 4chan’s purpose, because I’m not really sure if it has one. It’s mostly stuff being posted “for the lulz,” but sometimes the users (particularly on /b/) band together to fight something that threatens net neutrality or online anonymity or internet censorship, like the Google/Verizon agreement or the recent Australian attempt at internet censorship.
I see
Thanks for the explanation. I think I understand a little better now; it seems the kind of thing you need to just spend some time exploring in order to get it.
‽ ⅋ ‽
Yeah
it’s not something you really can explain. If you’re feeling particularly daring, you should go on /b/, where essentially anything goes (as a result, it’s very NSFW); some of the posts are not for the faint of heart, but if you ever see an “epic thread” thread, it’s completely worth it. Example of an epic thread (SFW).
lurking helps with the understanding
I’ve been places where “lurk more, n00b” was a common phrase.
Go jump in Toews Lake.
Aubrey: old German for king of the elves. Huff: English for...huff.
They also occasionally band together to fight other things.
Like Scientology, as in the time that /b/ decided that Scientologists pissed them off and so they took down the network at most of the Scientology centers worldwide for a couple of days, then staged in-person protests over a period of months.
Or animal abusers, as in the time that /b/ got pissed off at a couple of teenagers that posted a youtube video of themselves abusing a cat. Within hours, /b/ managed to track down the culprits, provide local law enforcement with an address and phone number for both home and work, and make sure that the cat in question was promptly adopted into safe hands once the county animal control seized it from the abusers.
Or AT&T, as in the time that AT&T decided to summarily block 4chan on all their American networks. The 4chan denizens got mad enough to DDOS the whole damn ISP until AT&T quickly revoked the policy.
The *chans (4chan is only the best known, there are several more) are rightly known as the dregs of the internet, but they occasionally take it upon themselves to do impressive things.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Aug 12, 2010 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Prospect report - Corey Pronman from June..
And I heard Columbus #3, John Moore, attended New Trier (not sure if he played there).
Isn't he the Sausage King of Chicago?
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
Abe Froman is the sausage king if Chicago
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
Article
on him from Hollywood Ham
Abe Froman
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Corey pr0nman.
I know McClure get’s that one.
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Aug 12, 2010 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay, I'm not sure how many people know this
so I’ll link it again. This is the link for the Wiedeman broadcasts of most Hawk games. Usually, it hosts the most recent radiocast of the most recent game, but since it’s the summer and we won the Cup, the current radio archive contains the Wiedeman call of the Cup win: “HAWKS WIN! HAWKS WIN, I NEVER THOUGHT I’D LIVE TO SEE IT! HAWKS WIN!”
We’re all bored with August, so I figured I’d give up a great way to pass the time.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Aug 12, 2010 10:30 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
thanks!
I’d actually never listened long enough before to hear that incredibly awkward interview with Steeger at the end of the recording. good times, good times.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Aug 12, 2010 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks for that
HAWKS WIN THE STANLEY CUP! will never get old
Back off man, I'm a scientist
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
by BigCSouthside on Aug 13, 2010 2:02 AM CDT up reply actions
To follow-up on that thought
BigC, your video “History Has Been Made” remains an absolute masterpiece. I watched it again yesterday (for at least the 50th time) and it still gives me freaking chills. Dubbing in the WGN audio over the video footage of Kaner’s goal is first class. “Lord Stanley’s new home is Sweet home Chicago” at the end = priceless. A link to that video will stay in my Favorites literally forever.
541 goals. 1467 points. Stanley Cup. Hall of Fame. All hail our man Stan.
definitely appreciate it man
I wanted to make that one my 9th symphony. I’m happy you enjoyed it
Back off man, I'm a scientist
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
by BigCSouthside on Aug 13, 2010 2:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I really think it should have a permanent link to it on the SCH homepage
Every time you sign up for a website or place an on-line order, you have to check a box that says “I have read and will comply with the terms and conditions of the site”. We need to make it so that anytime anyone joins SCH, they have to check a box that says “I have watched ‘History Has Been Made’ and it made me weep with joy”.
541 goals. 1467 points. Stanley Cup. Hall of Fame. All hail our man Stan.
by furryogre on Aug 13, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I like it!
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
Fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Blackhawks!
Fan of the not 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Isles!
by burpchelischili on Aug 13, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe we should make a
virtual “suggestions box” for the alcoholics. Or maybe just a short list.
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by puppetmasterp on Aug 13, 2010 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Does this,
Or maybe just a short list.
mean that we would put it a short bus ride away?
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
Fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Blackhawks!
Fan of the not 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Isles!
by burpchelischili on Aug 13, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Niemi's day with the cup
So what happened with that? Looks like the cup’s tour of Europe is over and it’s coming back to the States and of all the European Hawks (or former Hawks), Niemi was the only one who didn’t get it. I tried to google this but nothing of relevance came up. Do you think it’ll go back to Europe again to visit Nemo in Finland or is he just not getting his day with the cup?
by hawkswin!hawkswin! on Aug 13, 2010 7:25 AM CDT reply actions
Why wouldn't he get his day with the Cup?
It’s possible he’s spending his day with it in the US, though I very much doubt that. Either the Cup’s coming back to Europe or he’s already had it & just didn’t have any press there. He seems like a low-key kind of guy, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it was the latter.
Never mind
He just had it yesterday. And it was in Finland. Just not as documented in the media as the Slovaks’ and Huet’s I guess
by hawkswin!hawkswin! on Aug 13, 2010 7:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I was wondering too
I know it went to Sweden after France because I was following along on the NHL’s blog and yeah, it says nothing about Finland or Niemi between Sweden and Buffalo despite at least 5 posts a day on all the other days.
541 goals. 1467 points. Stanley Cup. Hall of Fame. All hail our man Stan.
more fine negotiating by Zito
“All right Nemo, I couldn’t get the Cup for an entire week like I promised you, But you do get it for 15 minutes! Not bad eh?”
Not all those who wander are lost.
my Captain is better than your Captain
by Johnny Lava on Aug 13, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
what a funny world
whipping boy who lost his starting job and is headed to the minors is feted as he parades the Cup through Paris.
later, Stanley Cup winning goaltender, currently unemployed, caught alone, peeing into the Cup, on a hillside in Finland.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
There are several pics of Nemo and the Cup in Finland over at the Tribune site.
And cool ones of Kane with the Cup in Buffalo.
The Chicago Blackhawks -- 2010 Stanley Cup Champions!!!!!!
"I can't stop crying and laughing." Preacher
The video on the hawks site
Of Kane re-enacting the winning goal playing floor hockey is pretty funny.
I have a feeling he'll be playing there eventually
The kid absolutely loves his hometown, despite all indications that he’d be better off not hanging around there too long (at least after – hours). Big Sabres fan, always will be.
Had a little brush with the cup
Kane brought the cup to the Jimmy Bufffett concert on Saturday. Of course I wasn’t very close to it, but being in the same building and seeing it from far away still brought a little tear to my eye.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
We're headed to Madison on Wednesday
For Burish’s day with the Cup.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
Take some pictures to post
I wasn’t anywhere near the stage so mine didn’t turn out very well.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
So are we.
We even booked a room at a hotel just down the street so we could get a decent spot in line. Living 2 hours away makes arriving early a bit challenging (especially with 4 young children). So I’m hopeful we’ll be able to see it and get a ton of pictures. If they turn out well, I’ll post them. I have no idea what kind of crowd to expect or how long or how close we’ll be with the Cup.
My 7-year-old son has told me he’s not allowed to touch it if we can. He plays hockey and knows the “rules.”
The Chicago Blackhawks -- 2010 Stanley Cup Champions!!!!!!
"I can't stop crying and laughing." Preacher
Oh good God
I can see Burish carrying it into every bar in Madison and asking every girl there " So, um, you girls like hockey?"
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
Burish wouldn't have to use the hockey line
He would just smile and the girls melt like butter.
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
And flash those baby blues
He’s got some amazing eyes. So couple that with his goofy smile, and the girls just….. yep.
you're thinking Kaner
Burish doesn’t have any problems with girls; Kaner was his padawan. Alas, Kaner has lost his Jedi Master to Dallas.
In other news, I want to watch Star Wars again..it’s been a while. :\
I saw this yesterday
The Blu-Ray set will be released in Fall 2011
Star Wars on Blu-Ray
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Stanley Cup and Burish
At the Kohl Center in Madison on Wednesday 8/18 10am to noon.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
i don't think i'll be able to make it -- damnit
I’ll still be in the Twin Cities and Wed morning is too early in the week for me to be heading back to chicago. Originally i’d been hoping it would be on Thursday, but Wed doesn’t work at all. Timing continues to hate my life.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Aug 17, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
We are leaving at 7am.
Hoping to get some pics of me skating around the Kohl Center carrying it over my head. LOL I’ll send pictures.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
Boynton and Hossa
I find it hilarious that Boynton went 3 slots ahead of Hossa in the 1997 Draft. Good choice Washington Crapitals!
19-88-81-2-7-10-36-4-51 : The Hawks
Just goes to show.
Most of the time a draft position doesn’t mean squat. Just off the top of my head I remember Zetterberg going in the 7th round, and I’m sure there are a slew of others that turned out to be pure gold after being drafted late. Then again there have been quite a few who have turned out to be pure shit after going in the top 10. As Forrest would say: “You never know what you’re gonna’ get”!
II Can Finally Die Happy Now!
And beyond the draft ...
What happens in the farm system doesn’t necessarily translate to the NHL either. Apparently, Duncan Keith wasn’t all that stellar in the minors. He had speed but was rather unspectacular. The Norris Trophy says he turned out better than projected.
The Chicago Blackhawks -- 2010 Stanley Cup Champions!!!!!!
"I can't stop crying and laughing." Preacher
by Preacher000 on Aug 15, 2010 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I think that had a lot to do with the style of play before/after the lockout
and also the fact that he was described as “bambi on ice skates”.
Go jump in Toews Lake.
Aubrey: old German for king of the elves. Huff: English for...huff.
I agree with you
but remember that Boynton was an All-Star. The reason he’s on League-minimum salaray now is because the rule-changes from the Lockout made him much less effective at his game, which would now be considered holding & interference. The same (kind of) goes for Duncan Keith; before the rule changes, he wasn’t a fantastic prospect because the game was more physicality-based, but now that it’s speed-based, he’s the Norris trophy winner he is today.
Thanks to those rules.....
Mike Green lines up as a defenseman.
Lord Stanley's new home is Sweet Home Chicago!
I thought it was because..
(1) Ice is slippery, and
(2) The Capitals defense wasn’t properly calibrated before they sent Green onto the ice.
by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 16, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
The Capitals
aimed right for a forward they could pass off as a defenseman, and i’m pretty sure they yelled “Bullseye!”
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by puppetmasterp on Aug 17, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Seriously ...
Is Boynton signed or not? I’m guessing not. There’s absolutely no news about it anywhere, just the 500k number assigned to him on capgeek. You heard it here first … or 500th, depending on what sites you do or don’t visit.
www.mjt.org
never question the SCH brain trust
someone on here always has the answer and a link to back it up
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
no problem, i was curious too
the Hawks still haven’t officially announced it themselves, i don’t think.
by Katherine215 on Aug 16, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
oh, i lied
they did today, it wasn’t just nhl.com
by Katherine215 on Aug 16, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh Niemi
Niemi disappointed he’s no longer a Blackhawk
I feel so guilty, even though I had fuck all to do with the decision making.
Go jump in Toews Lake.
Aubrey: old German for king of the elves. Huff: English for...huff.
by shinkicker on Aug 16, 2010 9:30 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Sigh.
I am sad for him. The speed with which the Hawks moved on had to be a slap in the face. :(
by Katherine215 on Aug 16, 2010 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Not I...
Its time like these I am glad I was born an insensitive jerk. I am sad for myself and my fellow Hawks fans that Niemi and his agent are drooling morons..
I hope he gets stuck backing someone up next season.
19-88-81-2-7-10-36-4-51 : The Hawks
I'm more in the middle
Part of me is sad because I really wish he would of stayed for the price. I understand where both sides came from.
The other part of me is saying “what the fuck” you couldn’t just tell your agent that you wanted to sign a smaller deal to stay with this club and get the season in. You show you can play a full season and playoffs and maybe get the bigger contract in the future; considering you have no job at the moment.
2009-2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Chicago Blackhawks
this bit
“I thought it would get worked out all along and never really thought it wouldn’t,” Niemi said
Someone really needed to explain the salary cap to the kid. I still blame the agent.
Not all those who wander are lost.
my Captain is better than your Captain
by Johnny Lava on Aug 16, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Turco at $1.3
Niemi’s situation in Chicago was tenuous since the day Stan knew he could get Turco at $1.3 million. At that point, how high could the Hawks have conceivably been interested in gong on Niemi? Maybe $2 million tops.
To suggest the day after the Cup championship that Niemi’s market value would be $2 million or less, well, this would have been considered low by just about everyone.
June 30, 2010. We will rue this day.
by cliffkoroll on Aug 16, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
He could always come back? I know it sounds weird, but in a way I feel like we haven’t said bye to Niemi.
that sounds like the refrain to a break-up song
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Aug 16, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
break out boy 2 men
“it’s so hard to say goodbye…to yesterday”
Wow…i can’t beleive i just had THAT song pop in my head. I need to go home.
2009-2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Chicago Blackhawks
"We're not finnished"
How’s that for a title? But seriously, something tells me we could see Niemi again in 2-3 years….
We could...
I wonder if I’ll win a chance to ride in the zamboni with him
2009-2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Chicago Blackhawks
If the Hawks stick to the "Detroit model",
as it’s being called, of hockey franchise management I can’t see this happening. Unless Niemi completely fails playing elsewhere.
I’m saying this purely from an economic perspective. If he has even modest success elsewhere in the league (and I expect he will) he’ll have priced himself out of the Hawks salary structure once again.
If he were to struggle for a few seasons elsewhere he might be available cheap, but would the Hawks want him at that point as a reclamation project?
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
well, i think he was a moron
but I’m still sad for him.
by Katherine215 on Aug 16, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I have to agree.
He was being led by a greedy agent.
Pressed on whether he had declined a three-year, $8 million contract offer from Hawks general manager Stan Bowman that would have allowed him to stay in Chicago and establish himself on a Cup contender, Niemi asked to look ahead not back.
“I’m not going to comment on that,” he said.
If that report was false, he could have easily said so. Apparently the Hawks were willing to pay $2.6 (average), probably sliding upwards in years two and three. That was a BAD move, Niemo.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
Big sigh
Even his D-men can’t bail him out of this one. :(
How would you like a job where, every time you make a mistake, a big red light goes on and 18,000 people boo?
maybe Sopes can still give him some advise
about how to recover from a shot to junk
Not all those who wander are lost.
my Captain is better than your Captain
by Johnny Lava on Aug 16, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't buy
the whole, “he was being led” angle. I’ve said this before (so I’ll keep it short here), Niemi is just as responsible for this mess he’s in as Zito is. Turning down 3 years at $8m after Nabby went to Russia? Come the fuck on, Niemi.
by Katherine215 on Aug 16, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't say his agent was greedy
in so much that he was aware that the way Niemi played last year may have been the best Niemi would ever play, and needed to get as much as possible. Niemi needed to have faith in his ability and say I’ll take a cheap 1 year deal and prove I can be the netminder of the future for this club and get a fat contract next year. Alas that wasn’t the case.
II Can Finally Die Happy Now!
Zito may have been aware that his player needed to cash in..
but he also needed to be aware of the developing goaltender market, and that his player was a RFA that wasn’t actually on the market while all the big deals were being handed out.
Agreed that as arbitration time drew near, both Zito and Niemi should have been able to read a spreadsheet on CapGeek. But we’ll see what deal he gets now.
by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 16, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I totally agree with you.
I’m just saying that Zito was trying to get Niemi as much as possible while he was still the feel good story of the season. On the other hand he should have certainly had an eye on the reality of the situation.
II Can Finally Die Happy Now!
He just seems really naive
It’s like we kicked a puppy. But it was cheaper than feeding it?
Go jump in Toews Lake.
Aubrey: old German for king of the elves. Huff: English for...huff.
by shinkicker on Aug 16, 2010 9:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Would you rather feed the puppy or one of your kids?
Not all those who wander are lost.
my Captain is better than your Captain
by Johnny Lava on Aug 16, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
The puppy
Or wait, are these metaphorical children the core? Or actual children?
Go jump in Toews Lake.
Aubrey: old German for king of the elves. Huff: English for...huff.
by shinkicker on Aug 16, 2010 10:48 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
the core
and are you saying you would feed a puppy over a real child?
Not all those who wander are lost.
my Captain is better than your Captain
by Johnny Lava on Aug 16, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
is splitting the food in half an option?
and are these real children holy terrors or nice, normal kids?
by Katherine215 on Aug 16, 2010 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
?!?
Bad kids don’t deserve food? That’s making the situation worse. Then you would have “bad” kids out there willing to do whatever for food because they’re starving.
Stealing, prostitution, joing a gang, mugging old people. Going to prison at an early age and falling deeper into a life a crime. They’d probably end up breaking into a home to commit a robbery and killing the family of 4 that lives there.
Way to go Katherine, you just killed an entire family because you fed the puppy because it was nicer
Not all those who wander are lost.
my Captain is better than your Captain
by Johnny Lava on Aug 16, 2010 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
...the hell?!
I just don’t like spoiled, obnoxious children. I think they can skip a meal and learn to appreciate where their food comes from and stop screaming in Target that they want more video games/cupcakes/money and pulling on my dog’s ears. Kids these days!
So, anyone need a babysitter?
by Katherine215 on Aug 16, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
The Captain was willing to cut back on his diet enough to leave something for the pups...
Kaner went along with his ‘responsible’ brother, but he’s the one who needs the babysitter.
And in conclusion, I think this whole episode proves conclusively that in the “family” analogy, Niemi turned out to be Fredo.
YAHTZEE!!!
by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 16, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
i will avoid having kids for now
just so i can avoid having to hire psychotic babysitters to watch them.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Aug 17, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I *like* puppies
And something has gone seriously wrong if I have children. So I’d pick a puppy. But not the metaphorical Nemo puppy over the metaphorical Core children.
Go jump in Toews Lake.
Aubrey: old German for king of the elves. Huff: English for...huff.
by shinkicker on Aug 16, 2010 12:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It is so sad
I mean, did he and Zito think that the Hawks wouldn’t have another plan ready to execute should they go to arbitration? It was probably already over by then in Bowman’s mind; they were already prepared to go in a different direction once the contract negotiations went to arbitration. Nemo/Zito really overestimated the Hawks attachment to their cup winning players — which should have been evident given Ladd, Buff, Versteeg et al. That’s a big-time “tell”.
Poor Niemi not only didn’t get the arbiter’s number — the Hawks announce Turco in the same breath and he is left standing there looking like a doofus.
Zito did a real disservice to Niemi - he totally misplayed this (non-)deal.
The goalie bubble was bursting and Zito should have seen that happening
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
10 to 1
Nemo would take $1.3M right now to play here next season. Too bad.
by stanfordron on Aug 16, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
especially after Nabby went to the KHL
I wonder how many players watched the Niemi debacle and then dropped Zito as representation
Not all those who wander are lost.
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by Johnny Lava on Aug 16, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Not sure it's about an attachment to their cup-winning players..
it was about the math of the salary cap. But misunderstanding that distinction was Zito’s first mistake.
It took a few weeks for us (including myself) to get a handle on what could, and could not be done in keeping the non-core players. Which is fine for drunken message board posters, not so good a quality in a player agent. It’s like Zito shared Tallon’s lack of understanding of cap management.
Ultimately the player hires the agent, and makes the decisions about how to approach contract negotiations. If his top priority was staying with Chicago, he could have signed the (rumored) $8m/3yr deal and we’d have then lost Hammer to the Sharks’ offer sheet.
But even if Niemi was a neophyte who let his agent sweet talk him into thinking he was worth $5m a year, it’s still on Nemo for allowing Zito to proceed forward, and completely misread the market for netminders. As an RFA, the Hawks had the ability to prolong the negotiation until all teams had shot their cap wad on UFA’s.
by The Deputy Mayor of Rush Street on Aug 16, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear you
But the Hawks’ willingness to let go a number of popular, albeit non-core players (plus the crumbling goalie market) should have been a big tip off to them both. They really miscalculated.
A harsh lesson in sports business economics 101 for Niemi.
Sure hope it works out for him wherever he lands.
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ready for my tickets!!
almost 10am. I bet i get none bc the bastards brokers will take them all
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bingo
i fucking hate ticket brokers. I consider them more sleazy than stereotypical blood-sucking lawyers. And that says a lot. but maybe i just say that b/c i have no money.
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by puppetmasterp on Aug 17, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Would it really be hard to implement a system where, in advance, I could say, “Hey, Ticketmaster, I’m interested in these 5 games, in this order. I am interested in any tickets in the 300 level. Please look to see what is the best ticket available and let me know, then I’ll make my order.” Instead, we can’t select any ticket in a given level, only at a given price range or part of a level. We can only choose one game at a time—sucks to be you if there aren’t any tickets left after waiting 10 minutes for Ticketmaster to get back to you. All this for the privilege of being charged an extra 20 bucks on top of the admission price by these assholes.
Agreed
That was a waste of 5 minutes of my life.
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by Sect. 330 Dweller on Aug 16, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I wasted 40 minutes
You are smarter than I am.
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by HungryHungryPanda on Aug 16, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
me too
I got a game in March and my sister got the 10/20 game. If anyone got 10/9 tix, I want to know who you know!
by Katherine215 on Aug 16, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
I got through a few times
But only for SRO… and fuck that.
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by HungryHungryPanda on Aug 16, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah, I had SRO
for the Sabres game and said no thanks. I’d rather sit on my couch for free and see the game better.
by Katherine215 on Aug 16, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I won 1 ticket
but can never get 2. I dont mind seeing a game by myself but still rather have someone next to me so i’m not drinking alone. I do that enough now
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trying thinking of it as drinking with 20,000 new friends (well, acquaintances)
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Confusion will be my epitaph.
I gave up and went to stubhub
Go jump in Toews Lake.
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by shinkicker on Aug 16, 2010 10:49 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That's a sad state of affairs
Stubhub is like an even more evil version of Ticketmaster. I can get decently priced tickets for some of the VAN or STL games, but $20 for shipping? For paper? Again, fuck that.
"I have only space enough to add: against the assault of desperate pandas nothing can stand."
-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)
by HungryHungryPanda on Aug 16, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
I prefer the downloading option
Because otherwise I send them to my old apartment and freak out
Go jump in Toews Lake.
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by shinkicker on Aug 16, 2010 11:16 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I've done that
and I stalked the living shit out of the new residents…they will never forget me!
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I had to call stub hub only slightly panicked
But it all worked out!
Go jump in Toews Lake.
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by shinkicker on Aug 16, 2010 12:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s not always an option, though. In fact, it’s rarely an option.
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-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)
by HungryHungryPanda on Aug 16, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Really?
Because this is the first time in two years I’m getting physical tickets. I assume the electronic ones will be up later, and for now it’s just season ticket holders.
Go jump in Toews Lake.
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by shinkicker on Aug 16, 2010 12:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Why so many comments today
after the drought of the past few days? Did you all suddenly get lives at the weekend or something?
I never get time to comment on the weekend
I was putting together a metal shed that tore me apart. I have my fiancee and her daughter moving in this weekend. So much for me time..
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Tickets went on sale today
and it was good weather this weekend, so those probably contributed both ways. Though I was very sad to see no comments when I finally got time to check this weekend.
by Katherine215 on Aug 16, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Ah, hence the TicketMaster hating
It speaks volumes about TicketMaster that I didn’t think it needed a special occasion to bitch about them.
Btw, sorry if I posted this ~3 times; my intermet’s acting funny & it’s needing multiple attempts to even post 1 comment.
WOOHOO
My girl was able to snag to tickets to the Blues game in April. This will be my first trip to Chicago and I can’t wait. We’ll also be at the BL for that Friday’s game against Scum. Can’t fucking wait!!!!
thanks
Really looking forward to seeing the city (hoping to catch a Cubs game as well but will have to wait for the 2011 schedule). Tix are in section 300 something so they are not the best but who cares. Plus the Hawks will be here in DC this year so I will get to see them twice.
by Chris Roberts on Aug 16, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
300 level tickets are the best ones
for the price in my opinion. you can see the game a lot better than sitting lower. 200 level are supposed to be good too, but those are out of my price range, so i can’t speak from experience. :)
by Katherine215 on Aug 16, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm with you, KtG
Although for my money, 400 level (aka my couch) is the best value.
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by HungryHungryPanda on Aug 16, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
that's basically my plan for the season
with the exception of the home opener. I just want to see the banner raised. After that, I can watch the rest of the season from my couch.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Aug 16, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Were you able to get home opener tickets?
I tried right at 10 and was shut out, then tried a few other games here and there and could only get SRO.
Even though I loathe Stubhub, there are actually some decent deals on there right now. I just can’t swallow paying $12 to ship the tickets, and then another $11 for a service fee.
$23 can buy me a fifth of Gentleman Jack instead.
"I have only space enough to add: against the assault of desperate pandas nothing can stand."
-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)
by HungryHungryPanda on Aug 16, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Wait until electronic tickets go up
Then it should be about a $5 fee
Go jump in Toews Lake.
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by shinkicker on Aug 16, 2010 11:18 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
nope
I said fuck it and got the best deal I could get on StubHub. It’ll probably be the only one I shell out that much money for this year, though— I managed to get called up for the partial plan so I’ve got 8 regular season Wednesdays covered, and the rest will basically be “road watches”.
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
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by chiblackhawks on Aug 16, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought I had them
Then realized I just spent $100 for 2 preseason tickets, Red Wings on Sept. 25th. This is what you get for coming to work hungover, and stealing company time to buy tickets online
Afroman likes tall cans.
ouch
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Aug 16, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
200 are the best unless you're right on the glass.
However, I’d gladly take any 100 level seat.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
Good to hear
as my girlfriend was a little upset she couldn’t get better seats. She checked back 10 minutes later and it was SRO….for a fucking Wednesday game in April!!! Glad we didn’t go for Scum to end the season. It’s a long way away but I look forward to the road watch that Friday against scum almost as much just to meet many of you.
by Chris Roberts on Aug 16, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Good to hear
as my girlfriend was a little upset she couldn’t get better seats. She checked back 10 minutes later and it was SRO….for a fucking Wednesday game in April!!! Glad we didn’t go for Scum to end the season. It’s a long way away but I look forward to the road watch that Friday against scum almost as much just to meet many of you.
by Chris Roberts on Aug 16, 2010 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I sat in 200 a couple of times
The waiters were annoying me by taking orders and delivering shit while the game was going, and both times I sat next to a camera man that evidently thought his ass crack was the Mona Lisa or something.
(Oh! Everybody should see THIS!)
/Note unceasing sarcastic laughter in background.
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by burpchelischili on Aug 16, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
The whole process irks me
especially knowing that the Organ I Zation will release thousands of tickets to brokers shortly. I can’t get 3 side by side but sure as shit know that in a couple weeks i can buy a whole F’n row in the 300’s to the opening game
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I always thought those brokers
were STHs who just bought full rows of seats and then sold them off for profit, in which case the Hawks could probably do a better job policing how many tickets STHs get. (Because really, a whole row for one person? Who are they, the Gosselins?)
But when it was suggested to him that Toews v. Kane seems likely to become a sidebar to every future international hockey tournament, he smiled and said: "I'd like us to win something together, too." -- 2/28/10, so our Captain has said, and so it was done.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Aug 16, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Anyone see
Buff In his new jersey? Puck daddy has a good article. It doesn’t matter what jersey he wears for me but I’m glad we have the best jersey in sports.
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