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The Hockey News has the Hawks ranked...

The Hockey News released the ranking for the Chicago Blackhawks today and they come in at a stunning number 4.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/34718-The-Hockey-News-201011-NHL-regular-season-predictions-No-4.html#add_comment

The reason for this ranking was Why: The team with the most summer turnover, Chicago GM Stan Bowman did well in trading, given the position he was in. Dustin Byfuglien, Kris Versteeg, John Madden, Brent Sopel, Andrew Ladd and Adam Burish were among the players moved out, but none are recognized as integral for regular season success. With the core collection of skill still in the lineup, the Blackhawks filled in the holes with Fernando Pisani and Viktor Stalberg and have room to promote prospects such as Jack Skille. Chicago’s defense far and away allowed the fewest shots on goal per game and with the blueline looking much the same it should help Marty Turco adjust to his new team. The loss of Antti Niemi isn’t a good thing, but Turco, though he has struggled the past couple of seasons, is a veteran capable of doing the job. And just in case he isn’t, Corey Crawford is itching and ready for his opportunity.

My two cents:

I know I may be sounding like a homer but I just can't help but laugh at the fact the Hawks are 4th behind Detroit, Vancouver and San Jose.  I understand the Hawks lost some pieces but the core is still in tact and the one thing everyone fails to mention with this team KANE AND TOEWS ARE GOING TO GET BETTER!!!

San Jose lost there starting goal tender and Rob Blake, Detroit was kind of old last year and will continue to get older and I don't think Mike Madano makes them world beaters at this stage of his career and Vancouver, although they have added some pieces, hasn't gotten past the second round because of the Hawks.   In addition, are the additions of Dan Hamuis and Manny Malhotra the thing to put them over the top this year?  Not to mention Pavol Demitra left the team for the KHL.  Not saying it is a big gain or loss, but does that really put the Hawks below Vancouver? 

I am not saying the Hawks should be number one (although some could argue, you are number one until you are knocked out) but just as much as the Hawks have lost, they are going to only get better.  The D is still in tact for the most part, goalie is debatable depending on your feelings of Turco, and the top 2 lines are going to be strong with Kane and Toews getting better, and a full season of Hossa.  

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Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on Aug 24, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

well, the Canucks are stacked with 2nd pair defensemen

I’m guessing that’s a good thing.

San Jose is in the top 3 for the simple fact that their division isn’t going to be that much more competitive than the Northwest.

Detroit I’d still be wary of, considering they managed to break a hundred points and get home ice despite the fact that they lost a couple of their scorers as well as regulars to injuries during the season.

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by chiblackhawks on Aug 24, 2010 1:54 PM CDT reply actions  

wait, were they 4th or 5th seed?

I’m having a senior moment here and can’t remember. Not that it really matters, I just can’t remember!

by Katherine215 on Aug 24, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

5th seed behind phoenix

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by Scratch and Snif on Aug 24, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Katherine,

you are too young to have a senior moment. I’m sure there is some other stereotype that can replace senior.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on Aug 24, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

she’s having a “too young to be considered a senior but still within the reach of alzheimer’s disease” moment. If that’s too wordy, she’s having a TYtbCaSbSWtRoAD moment. pronounced ˈɛɪjaé-aˌjœ – kʏtl. Simple enough right?

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by Scratch and Snif on Aug 24, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not saying this to be a jerk

but who cares? If you think your team is good enough to win it all, why get worked up over what the pundits think?

Would you rather be the Caps or Sharks, who are consistently picked as a top-3 team in their respective conference every year, only to shit the bed in the playoffs?

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by HungryHungryPanda on Aug 24, 2010 2:15 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree

The season is always packed with twists and turns, and the playoffs are no different.

Can we drop the puck already?

by oregon_hawk on Aug 24, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Caps or Sharks, who are consistently picked as a top-3 team in their respective conference every year,

For the Caps, that’s 1 year in a row, by the way. And people thought Tampa could win the division, too. It’s much less pronounced than San Jose.

Also, regarding losing Nabokov—the guy is so overrated. Nittymaki will probably appear in the MSM as a revelation to the Sharks when in fact the team in front of the SJS goalie was doing the work rather than the goalie himself.

I really think Kane won’t improve that much more offensively—there’s a sort of asymptote I think with regards to points in a season, improve 40% and go up 10 points, improve 40% again and only gain 5, for example—but he will defensively. As it is offensive type players, at least the HOF caliber ones, tend to peak around 23, especially goal scorers.
Toews I’d buy more offensive improvement.

I’m sure you’ve discussed this already, but I wasn’t around, but it seems to me like losing Madden could potentially be more important than the MSM realizes. The guy is a really good shutdown center.

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by red army line on Aug 24, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Madden can be replaced though.

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by Scratch and Snif on Aug 24, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

We'll miss Madden on the PK

more than even strength. he was down to 4th line ES minutes after the Olympics (I think it was then), and the 4th line soon after that. However, i think we’ll see one of our young guys begin to fill his shoes – Dowell maybe.

by Katherine215 on Aug 24, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

agree

although Pisani is supposed to be a PK master, right? I hope he can be our Madden replacement for that..

by ahnfire on Aug 24, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

me too

My only concern is he probably wouldn’t play as many games as Madden.

by Katherine215 on Aug 24, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Bolland has the ability to step up as our shutdown center

Madden faded throughout the season & playoffs, although his leadership made up for it. I’ll be interested to see how he does in Minn.

Kane may not improve that much offensively, but I think I’d rather have him improve defensively – and vice versa with Toews.

by ahnfire on Aug 24, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

he’ll have to rely compeletly on defensive stick work though. He’s like 5’8 and 120, so he won’t be muscling anyone but Mats Zuccarello Aasen (the next scoring sensation) off the puck.

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by Scratch and Snif on Aug 24, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

DB on the PK

Plus his knack for the short-handed goal…

by mightymike D on Aug 24, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Umm…Vancouver and San Jose are probably higher because they’ll win their division and THN thinks the Hawks will finish 2nd in the Central. So playoff seeding means Hawks to 4. I don’t agree with it, and I think the Wings’ injury deal was overblown, but it is what it is. Some writers find it hard to rank a team so highly when they kind of “come out of nowhere”—it’s been a whirlwind two years, from picking Kane to WCF to SCC.

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by red army line on Aug 24, 2010 3:06 PM CDT reply actions  

If anyone besides the Hawks wins the northwest, it’ll be the Blues. If their youth all mature this year, they’ll be instant contenders, I’d expect a surge from them in the next 2-3 years, but it could happen as soon as this season if they all start peaking early.

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by Scratch and Snif on Aug 24, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

You mean the Central? ;)

Don’t count out Nashville either. They replaced Arnott with Lombardi and Franson is ready to step into a bigger role, as well as their other prospects on defense.

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by red army line on Aug 24, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

My bad, I mean’t central. I still don’t understand how Nashville was so good last year, but I guess defense takes you a long way.

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by Scratch and Snif on Aug 24, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

They had like 10 players hit 30 points (led the league), and it’s scary to think that they didn’t even spend to the cap (internal budget, but that’s supposed to be resolved soon) and they had guys like Martin Erat—I think their second most highly paid forward after Arnott—playing 4th line minutes.

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by red army line on Aug 25, 2010 4:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

meh

i never like us carrying the tag of “favorites” anyway. This will do.

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by puppetmasterp on Aug 24, 2010 3:17 PM CDT reply actions  

3rd or 4th is where I'd put us heading into the season

THN is, of course, using these as predictions for how the season will end, whereas I’m just saying that there are too many unknowns and variables to predict anything past training camp with any relevance.

I think Vancouver should be about the same, maybe a little better. Detroit won’t be as good as they finished the regular season, but they won’t be as bad as they started it, either. (Of course, the big variable is Jimmy Howard… if he regresses, that could be trouble.) The Sharks… that one is kind of iffy. They have regressed, but was it enough to stay behind the Hawks?

by TKHO on Aug 24, 2010 3:51 PM CDT reply actions  

THN? THC more like..

Ahh, this sort of thing’s a load of old Dingo’s Kidneys..
Look at where they put the Rangers, Habs and Preds.. and to have the Flyers at 4th (the loss of Simon Gagne is going to leave a huge, huge hole for them).. I think we can safely discount these predictions.
For my money, the ’Hawks will fight it out with Ver Scum for the Central with an improved Blues in the mix.. and playoffs are impossible to call: look at the Habs last season fer chrissakes.

by mightymike D on Aug 24, 2010 3:52 PM CDT reply actions  

Really? Mike Richards, Jeff Carter, Claude Giroux, Danny Briere, Ville Leino, Scott Hartnell can all contribute on offense. They’re deep and their D got better with Mejzaros and O’Donnell (which isn’t saying much, I know).

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by red army line on Aug 24, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

strength in depth

is there, I know.. but so much of the really good stuff we saw in the playoffs seemed to revolve around Gagne.. I know that I, for one, felt my bowels loosen when he got on the ice.. while the Flyers do have plenty in the tank I think he’s one of the bigger losses that an NHL team has had in face of cap issues this year.. yet it seems to hardly rate a mention?

by mightymike D on Aug 24, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

It’s true. They have a large cast of offensive players, yet they never seemed to get it going last year. With Gagne gone, it can only get worse. Out of those guys there, I’d say only Jeff Carter is good enough to take on a leading offensive role. Briere used to be, but he’ll be an old guy quite soon, or on the IR. The rest are supporting players.

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by Scratch and Snif on Aug 24, 2010 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

They were a mess in the regular season but pulled it together. They likely won’t be as good as in the playoffs, but probably will be better than make-it-in-on-a-shootout-goal.

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by red army line on Aug 25, 2010 4:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

what was our ranking at this time last year?

I see this like how baseball Prospectus pick the Sox to be fourth in the division in 2005, then they went wire to wire and won the whole show

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by BigCSouthside on Aug 24, 2010 4:13 PM CDT reply actions  

it isn't too whack

I think the Hawks start a tad lower than last year – but as to the end, that all depends on how much growth we see in theyoung superstars, and how ell the new low level kids step in

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by krome on Aug 24, 2010 7:28 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

it's a reasonable ranking,

but I’m personally offended by the teams ahead of us! Considering that the hawks mindfuck the canucks into oblivion, we at least deserve to be above them. I think the sharks are a good pick, but I do think detriot is passed it’s prime.

I’d put some of the up-and-coming WC teams like the kings up there and maybe some EC teams from cupcake divisions that are likely to be fresh in the playoffs (where anything can happen!). If only the Capitals had a defense… Plus, you have to think about the talent of Chicago East…

and if they’re going for teams that will likely win the division and be “fresh” for the playoffs where anything can happen, they totally missed the eastern conference

by blackhawkeyes on Aug 24, 2010 8:12 PM CDT reply actions  

I’d actually not count out Vancouver. They were 3rd last year, the two teams in front of them being the Hawks and the Sharks. The latter team lost Blake and Nabby, which will sting, and the Hawks lost bevvy of role/secondary players. Vancouver got better on paper. The problem with them is that the relied completely on the Sedins, who had insane seasons. I don’t expect them to replicate. Maybe 90 points each at the most.

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by Scratch and Snif on Aug 24, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

‘Nucks will be in the mix, but what turns them into genyooin contendahs is the gruesome twosome’s form. On their game and they can beat anyone… without them… I refer you to the very first comment on this thread..

by mightymike D on Aug 25, 2010 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree that the nucks are still a threat,

but I still think they have some issues in the postseason. they don’t have a stigma like the sharks, but it’s similar to me. Maybe it’s just one of those things that they just don’t play the blackhawks well. I’ll admit I would have been nervous to play the wings last year, because I think sometimes the hawks psych themselves out when they play.

by blackhawkeyes on Aug 25, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Way I See It

We still have the best top 4 defense in the league, and a 3rd line center that can make Henrik Hart Trophy Winner Sedin and Joe Thornton play like undisciplined impotent baboons.

Plus I’ll take Kane, Toews, and Sharp over Thorton, Marleau, and Heatley in the playoffs any day.

I still like the Hawks’ chances in the west.

And while Anahiem returns to the locker room, Todd Bertuzzi is cuffed and returns to the squad car.

by Detroit Must Die on Aug 30, 2010 7:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Sigh...

A. Who cares where the Hawks wind up on a preseason poll.

B. I can’t necessarily argue with placing Vancouver, San Jose and Detroit ahead of the Hawks in a preseason poll…Vancouver in particular is an improved hockey club. All three of these teams are formidable in their own right, though I’m not much fan of San Jose’ chances. The Los Angeles Kings on the other hand might be the sleeper of the West.

C. Play the games. The Hawks will have tough time repeating, but the future is very bright. And who knows, if this team can stay away from major injuries and be peaking come playoff time????….then maybe they can get back to the FInals again.

The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.

by BLou on Sep 14, 2010 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

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