By Popular Demand... - More 2010-2011 Questions Addressed In Our Season Preview
Since Sam is easing himself back into the excruciating work schedule that is this blog and the Indian on what he viewed as some softball questions (he very quickly found out that AskJolene.com isn't as good for hockey queries as it is for what he's usually looking for), I suppose it's up to me to step it up here a little in this next batch. So with that, it is with great pride that I address some your questions here at the Gathering of The Juggalos....I mean in our preview of the 2010-2011 Chicago Blackhawks season.
How well does Stalberg perform with superior talent around him? Will he blossom into the 20+ goal scoring sniper that his talent suggests he is?
Excellent question, Herb. I am personally of the opinion that Viktor Stalberg will in fact improve upon his 9 goal output in 40 games last year. Reports from the Maple Leafs' side come in stating that he's as fast as Phil Kessel, with the addition of being 6'3" and 210 pounds. He clearly has a goal scorer's instinct, and will be asked to show that, likely on one of the top two lines. Putting Stalberg in a fourth line role doesn't make a lot of sense for what his (ample) skill set is, so barring a dog shit training camp, he should find himself on a wing in the top-9. The knock on Stalberg has always been want, as he doesn't utilize his frame as well as he could by engaging in physical play, nor is he always interested behind his own blue line. Tell me if any of this sounds familiar? On top of likely playing with one of three tremendously defensively responsible centers who boast high hockey IQ's in Toews, Sharp, or Dave Bolland, Stalberg will also now be playing for Joel Quenneville, who you may remember getting a fair amount of defensive effort from previous such one-time floaters as Patrick Kane, Kris Versteeg, and Dustin Byfuglien (against Vancouver at least). To put it bluntly, everything is in place for Stalberg to have a breakout year, and if he finds himself in Coach Q's doghouse due to under performing, it will be because he screwed the pooch on his own.
And for those of you unfamiliar with Stalberg's aforementioned nose to the net, observe his college highlight reel, which is sure to moisten even the driest of panties. (Yes, it's against collegiate competition, but observe his shot selection and how he allows the play to develop.)
#18 Viktor Stalberg - "The Swedish Rocket" (via lackofchaos)
- Next up, we have the inimitable Sec 326 Bureau Chief (he of Scotty Bowman stalking and breakfast picture taking fame), who wonders:
How much will Turco’s stats improve on account of (a) having an actual defense in front of him, or (b) his attempts to battle his serious case of the common old?
- Long-time guy cliffkorrol keeps his question simple and terse, which is how we like 'em:
What’s the PP/PK plan?
Seems easy enough right? First off on the penalty kill, I would not expect too much to change from what you saw last year from a strategic standpoint. However, personnel is something entirely different. The only combinations we know we'll see are Keith and Seabrook as the first defensive unit, and Jonathan Toews and Marian Hossa will see time as a forward unit, which even reading that should be enough to make the wieners of opposing blue liners shrivel back up into their body at the thought of them streaking the other way. The Hawks boast two players who have tied for the league lead in shorthanded goals recently in Hossa last year and Patrick Sharp from two seasons ago, so that is a constant threat. However, with the losses of John Madden, Colin Fraser, and Kris Versteeg, it's going to be up to players like Troy Brouwer, Fernando Pisani, and Jake Dowell to step into their spots. We know Pisani is an exemplary penalty killer, but his problem has been health, and the recent report of back spasms this summer don't bode well. We've seen Troy Brouwer be a perfectly willing penalty killer in the past, and has even shown flashes of short-handed scoring, notably when he began the onslaught on Black Wednesday in San Jose. As a fourth line center, Dowell will most assuredly be asked to kill penalties, which he's shown a knack for, scoring his first ever NHL goal while shorthanded Thanksgiving night of 2007 in Calgary. On the blue line, it's going to be of paramount importance that Nick Boynton assume the role of our dearly departed Catfish, Brent Sopel. Say what you will about Sopel in any other situation, but on a penalty kill, the way he took shots would make Austin Kincade proud. Boynton, when paired with Niklas Hjalmarsson, would be best served to do the same, lest we all be subjected to John Scott on the penalty kill, which I don't think anyone wants to see.
At the other end of the ice, it should be interesting to see if new assistant coach Mike Kitchen will be able to figure out what John Torchetti couldn't, which is how to get more out of what is a very offensively talented team. Often times the Hawks power play looked utterly clueless last year in the regular season, which should have been flat-out embarrassing for a team with that amount of talent. Perhaps Torch had too many pieces to work with which led to analysis paralysis, or such cockamamie ideas as Patrick Sharp on the point. Either way, the power play finally hit its stride in the playoffs when they finally realized that a simple two-man game between Kane at the half wall and Toews on the goal line worked wonders with a man in front, whereas Torchetti insisted on running things through his point men. Not to mention Brian Campbell frequently languishing either on the second unit of the power play, or inexplicably not seeing time at all with the man advantage given his skill set. Even with that, Duncan Keith will likely run the first unit with Brent Seabrook as his trigger man, and Toews, Kane, and a player to be named later up front, but the season will likely start with Hossa completing the Unholy Alliance. The second unit will no doubt feature Dave Bolland and Patrick Sharp, though Sharp may start the season out opposite Brian Campbell on the point. It would not shock me in the least, however, to see Niklas Hjalmarsson finally get to see some power play time as his game grows. On more than a few even strength occasions last year, we've seen Hammer deftly drag the puck along the blue line while skating backwards to fire a low, hard shot on net through traffic. Those solid instincts may warrant some time on the power play unit should Sharp be frequently exposed by opposing forwards. The remaining forward spots pretty much become a grab bag depending on how Q and Kichen want to counter the opposition- whether it's a man in front with Troy Brouwer or (god forbid) Tomas Kopecky, or perhaps someone to find soft spots in the defense such as the previously discussed Viktor Stalberg. All that being said, however, given the scoring talent that remains after the off season purging, it still is almost irrelevant what system the Hawks run on the power play, as they have the talent to trip, stumble, fart, and dry hump their way into at least competence on pure talent. The key for both prolonged success and the condition of our livers will be making the unit run cleaner and more efficiently, and there's nothing jumping off the screen from Mike Kitchen's past that suggest he'll turn it around in short order. Expect some frustration in the early going from the power play unit.
- Lastly, we have ben9599, who wonders:
In which game will Tazer provide proof of living sainthood?
For those of you still needing further proof for Toews to be fully canonized by the First Church of Blackhawk Nation, he will perform his most impressive act of miracle working yet in May, when he banishes the snakes in red and white sweaters hailing from the lands west of Windsor from these lands forever.
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Boy, those empty netters by Stalberg were sweet!
And this suit is black not. Not quite BigC Video Productions quality. I would personally expect Stalberg to spend most of his time on the 3rd line, although I’m sure he’ll rotate around quite a bit. He seems to have a skill set somewhere between a Brouwer lite and a Versteeg lite. Amirite?
I for one am high on seeing Turco in net. I was opposed to the Hawks trading for him at the deadline last year, but that’s because it would have been a lateral move. Now that the situation has changed, I think the Hawks got the right man for the job at the price they needed and the goalie who fits this team’s style the best from the options that were available. I do have MAJOR concerns about Crawford though.
I’m not expecting a big improvement on the PP. As I said quite often last year, we have a lot of talented two-way players who play the transition well. When you clump them all together in one zone, they lose some of their effectiveness. I think this was evident in the fact that the Hawks scored many of their PP goals early in the PP and/or when bringing the puck into the zone. Once they got into a set offense, they looked very flat.
New question: McClure, how many letters did you write to Penthouse as a kid?
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 14, 2010 8:42 AM CDT reply actions
OT, but I thought some of you might enjoy this
Every season my son’s swim team has a design contest for a team T-shirt. My son has been asking me to submit an entry. The only requirements are that the design has to be a maximum of two colors and incorporate the team logo (the lame triangle) and the Speedo logo. So I came up with this last night.
I should mention, the funniest part is that the female swim coach has absolutely no personality or sense of humor. My wife was in tears laughing over how pissed the coach is going to be at me. Of course the kids will probably love it and some of the parents, so it’ll be interesting how this plays out…

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 15, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Area man
prohibited by court order from approaching within 500 feet of local pool..
Do I know what rhetorical means?
by cliffkoroll on Sep 15, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
This cliffkoroll is funny not.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 15, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
That's the second time you've advertised AskJolene.com, McClure
Are you on their advertising payroll, or is this pro bono?
(Latin jokes never get old, right?)
geez cliff
he didn’t say pro boner
All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity. - Gordie Howe
I once saw a sign on a strip club entrance
which said “Veni, Vidi, Veni”. Bonus points to you if you get that without looking it up. I had to think pretty hard before I got it.
That's actually pretty funny
and I didn’t have to look it up since I know what Veni, Vidi, Vici (may be spelled wrong) means.
All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity. - Gordie Howe
I preferred the analysis of date night - "vidi, vici, veni ... veni ... veni"
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Veni, Vidi, Vodka – I came, I saw, l drank with laaarmer
Veni, Vidi, Vezina – I came, I saw Belfour play in 92-93
Veni, Vidi, Vacuum – I came, I saw, I read the Puck Daddy comment section
Veni, Vidi, Valedictorian – I came, I saw, I was classmates with Buff, Burish and Eager
Veni, Vidi, Valet – I came, I saw, I’m Marian Hossa’s man servant – I’m Kopecky??
Veni, Vidi, Vessel – I came, I saw, I’m Captain Serious and have a growing collection of these
Veni, Vidi, Vindication – I came, I saw, I’m Marian Hossa and your not
Veni, Vidi, Vancouver – I came, I saw, I jizzed… in… my… pants
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 14, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 10 recs
um... you're not
my Latin is better than my English
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 14, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions
nope
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 14, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
more like a CYA succeed
as stanfordron pointed out recently (Andy Rooney voice): Why do people only review their comments AFTER they’ve been posted?
Me, I ain’t so vain that I feel the need to correct a misplaced apostrophe in one of my comment’s.
Do I know what rhetorical means?
by cliffkoroll on Sep 14, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know if any comment has made me laugh this much
Veni, Vidi, Valet was my favorite.
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
Vendi, Vidi, Verde
I came, I saw, I greened
Ditto for Badgerdano
by Hack on Sep 14, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
rec'd
despite (maybe even a little because of) the spelling fail.
Do I know what rhetorical means?
by cliffkoroll on Sep 14, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Vendi, Vidi Verde Vancouver
I came, I saw green men and a short playoff run
Ditto for Badgerdano
by Hack on Sep 14, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Two can play at that game
Veni, Vidi, Vocal – I came, I saw, SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT
Vidi, Veni, Vidi, Veni, Vidi, Veni – McClure on AskJolene.com during a slow news day
Veni, Vidi, Vexed – I came, I saw, I played against Dave Bolland
Veni, Vidi – I came, I saw, that’s it. I’m Dany Heatley. What’s defense?
Veni, Vidi, Visually impaired? – I came, I saw, I missed. I’m Dan Carcillo.
by Germware on Sep 14, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
a somewhat delayed, but appropriately badass,
call by John Forslund (on Buff’s goal)
Ditto for Badgerdano
Patience, young grasshopper
When you can take the pebble from my hand…
Funny stuff Germ.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 14, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I may have to rec this
just for Kung Fu reference
by BigCSouthside on Sep 14, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Would the Heatley line then be Vini, Vidi, Fine?
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Confusion will be my epitaph.
This just keeps getting better
The tradition of naming the threesomes who compose the hockey teams’ lines of attack extends back to the 1920s when Bun Cook, Frank Boucher and Bill Cook of the New York Rangers formed the A Line (named after the A Train, which ran under Madison Square Garden).
You’d think with names like Bun, Frank, and Cook they could come up with something better than that?? Obviously SBN didn’t exist back then.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 14, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
did any of them "plump" at any point in a game?
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Veni, Vidi, V.D.
I came, I saw, Adam Burish left his mark
Ditto for Badgerdano
by Hack on Sep 14, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
There should really be more Bono jokes. Though I think South Park did all that could be done already.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
I for one
am pro more bono jokes.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 14, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
what a difference a year makes
I agree with this:
On top of likely playing with one of three tremendously defensively responsible centers who boast high hockey IQ’s in Toews, Sharp, or Dave Bolland,
while simultaneously observing a staple CI breakdwon stat from the past couple years, viz.: “Sharp floats around and doesn’t do much.” If memory serves, the Hawks were an unimpressive 7-5-1 in these tilts last season, with almost all of these games coming in 2009.
You can focus on a lotta guys, but the season Sharp had last year was tremendously tremendous. Time to find a new CI breakdown stat.
Do I know what rhetorical means?
I’m not entirely sure what stat you’re directly referencing, but I know that even with the advancements in hockey sabermetrics, it’s tough to quantify “floats”.
That being said, while it is not incumbent upon me to be in lock-step with everything Sam writes in the Indian, and I’m about the biggest Patrick Sharp apologist that there is, but between when Bolland went down and when Hossa came back last year, he got a case of the floats, just by the eye test. He wants to score goals, and he knows he can, and he doesn’t really like playing center anymore, as it’s much more fun (and easy) to just find a soft spot in the D and wait for Kaner to hit his tape than backcheck and take faceoffs. Plus, “Sharp Shooter” has a far nicer ring to it than “Patrick Defensive Responsibility”. But there are far bigger indignities in life than having to center for Marian Hossa, and around the time he got back is when Sharp started to round out his game. This was also driven home when he was moved back to center in the middle of the Nashvill series.
Sam even admitted he was overly harsh on Sharp at the beginning of the year, and he’s shown that he’s one of the more valuable forwards the Hawks have because he is far and away the most versatile. Name one other forward in the league that can realistically play 5 of the top 6 forward positions, and play them well?
Coming into this year, it seems like he’s far more settled into his role as a full-time center, and he should excel in his role.
“Face it, Happy, you’re a golfer.”
Chicago Blackhawks - 2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Things have changed forever, we're the Ramblin' Boys of Pleasure
"Patrick Defensive Responsibility"
I see a lot of boring, poorly acted, public service announcements from this man.
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
Mmmm Stalberg
I really can’t wait to see him play. I’m hoping he is a bit of a sniper for the Hawks.
All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity. - Gordie Howe
I didn't really know anything about him two months ago, but I'm psyched now.
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
This.
He’s the one I’m most excited about out of all the new guys coming in.
Tremendously tremendous!
Luongo's tears feed my soul.
by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Sep 14, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
he probably has the most upside potential of the new additions for this season
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
If Potulny
is in the lineup and Pisani isn’t, Potulny could get some PK time. His avg SH TOI last year was 2:08.
Now just because he gets time on the PK doesn’t mean he’s good at it, but he’s another guy that could get some special teams time.
Ditto for Badgerdano
This is also very true, but if Pisani is healthy, he’ll be given every opportunity to be out there when the Hawks are down a man.
Chicago Blackhawks - 2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Things have changed forever, we're the Ramblin' Boys of Pleasure
Hawks will definitely have to utilize Pisani when they can
It’s an interesting situation because of his health concerns, but since the Hawks loaded up on $500k guys they should be able to handle his absences better than most clubs.
It hard to not get a childish chuckle every time someone mentions Pisani and Potulny in the same sentence. Since the Nucks have Thing 1 and Thing 2, does that mean the Hawks have Number One and Number Two?
Now Pisani, I know what you’re thinking. I want to take the pressure off. Now, it doesn’t take a ‘whiz’ to know that you’re looking out for ‘Number One’. Well, listen to me, and you’ll make a big splash very soon.
Who… does… Number… Two… work… for??
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 14, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Might be interesting to stick Stalberg on a line with Hossa
and see if Panda can teach him the meaning of defensive responsibility in a sniper. Alternately, with that size you could stick him in front of the goal in a Byfuglien role (official team ass and annoyer of Luongo) and let him pick up the trash for the core shooters. Either of those things would make me happy.
We’re really going to miss Maddog on the PK. If Pisani stays healthy the loss might not be that noticable, but if Pisani goes down early then the kill might be an adventure for a while.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Sep 14, 2010 10:04 AM CDT reply actions
I've learned that hoping someone is going to be a decent net presence
often leaves me disappointed. I’m just going to assume that Stalberg isn’t capable of being a net presence until he proves me wrong. If anything, I may have a sliver of hope that if Bickell gets some top 9 ice time, he’ll be a noteworthy net presence….whoops, there goes that hope again.
The only real net presence this team has is Brouwer. Kopecky tries, but he certainly doesn’t strike fear into the hearts of any opposing goalies. I’ve seen Toews screen goalies and get some solid redirect goals, but I feel like I noticed this more in the 08-09 season than last year.
Ditto for Badgerdano
Well, a girl can dream.
To some extent, I wonder how much net presence can be trained. I mean, it seems to me that “stick your butt in the goalie’s face and wait” should be a teachable skill. Brouwer seems to have the right idea, but Kopecky seems to have an instinct to follow the puck to the corners rather than park himself in the crease and let his linemates feed him.
Still, with all the rookies and young guys coming up, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to hope we’ll stumble on at least one player who’s got the knack for it. You’re actually right about Toews seeming like more of a net-presence in 08-09 than last year, but some of that may be that he played a lot of the year with Brouwer on his line for net presence, so he didn’t need to crash the crease as often to make sure that we had a body there.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Sep 14, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
size aside, net presence is all about desire and accepting a role
I would think that it is teachable to a degree, such as teaching a player to transition from cycling and board work to putting himself in a position to be in front of the net at opportune times.
I think the biggest hurdle is getting a hockey player to accept the humble role of being a net presence. I’m sure most players want to show that they have hands, and can be a playmaker and/or sniper, and these skills don’t always show up when you’re parked in front of the net. Not to mention, standing in front of a goalie and getting hacked, whacked, and cross checked (subtly) all while having 80 and 90+ mph shots coming at you is a matter of pure grit and toughness. Net presence guys can end up scoring alot of goals while displaying good hands in tight quarters (see playoff Byfuglien), but it’s tough for them to understand and accept that role full time.
The reason I’m doubtful of Stalberg’s ability to jump in and be a net presence is because of his skillset and rumors about his desire to do one thing or another. A speedy (albeit large) winger, who likes to skate and snipe, and may not be too excited about defensive responsibilities, doesn’t sound like the type of guy that will gladly get in front of the net and be a beast for you. I’m making alot of assumptions about a player I haven’t seen, but I’m going with it and favoring on the ’that’ll be a pleasant surpise if it happens’ side of things.
Ditto for Badgerdano
net presence is all about grit and strength
how solid are you on your feet and how willing are you to take a bit of punishment (not as big a factor as it used to be under the current rule regime)
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
From what I can read, yah.
Basically what you said.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Sep 14, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Why Toews can be great at it
but I still would rather not having him subjected to that kind of punishment on a regular basis.
Our Cup.
Ouch.
Per PD, the Devils are getting fined $3M against the cap (they’re already cap-strapped and were going to have to trade to clear room for Kovy anyway), and are losing next year’s third round pick and a first round pick in one of the next four drafts.
Part of me says that it serves them right for dicking around with the damn contract all summer, and part of me is really glad I’m not a Devils fan right now.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Sep 14, 2010 10:10 AM CDT reply actions
Oh wait, according to inlouwetrust, the fine doesn’t count against the cap. So now they only have to dump $3M instead of $6M to fit Kovy under.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Sep 14, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Nice porn reference again to Austin Kincaid. Wonder what the next one will be?
This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.
I did not realize he was into MILFS as well.
19-88-81-2-7-10-36-4-51 : The Hawks
by HjammerTime on Sep 14, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
a regular renaisance man of porn, it would appear
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you just have to stand in awe of it really
if I’m ever on Cash Cab, and its a porn question, McClure is my mobile shout out
by BigCSouthside on Sep 14, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hopefully it's a Video Bonus Question.
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
in what?
no, wait … don’t answer that
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Curious:
I know where “in like Flynn” comes from. Is there a reason why some people say “in like flint?” Or is that just a case of purple monkey dishwasher over time?
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
That's what happens
when you rock and roll all night and part of ev-er-y day.
It’s a mute point now, but I was chomping at the bit waiting for someone to use card shark as an example. Irregardless, it’s a blessing in the skies since I would have hung myself with bob wire. Most people take for granite that cliff’s the spitting image of Lauren Order, but I think he just has Old-timer’s Disease.
OK, you can all do the Heineken remover on yourselves after that comment.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 14, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd for truthiness
Full disclosure — I thought that the Beatles sang “can’t bobby love”. OK, I was 4.
I thought Dobie Grey wanted me to "Gimmie the Beach Boys and save my soul"
I was a kid (10 or so) and was singing with the radio, said that line, and made my dad spit pepsi out his nose
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
I think I partied way too much in college.
I always thought Jungle Love was saying Chug a lug.
All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity. - Gordie Howe
My sister thought
Lay Down Sally was Make a Salad when we were younger.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 15, 2010 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Just last week
I mistook the oboe solo in Holst’s Second Suite in F major for a flute solo! Boy, was my face red!
/#DanEllisProblems
Mistook an oboe for a flute?
C’mon. I’m not buying that.
by stanfordron on Sep 15, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
I once mistook a B flat clarinet
for an A clarinet.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
I once,forgot my tuba,
on a concert night, thankfully I had ham and beans for lunch.
Fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Blackhawks!
Fan of the not 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Isles!
TMFF is a Genius. 'Nuff said.
by burpchelischili on Sep 16, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
An actual disc jockey I worked with
knew the song was called “Eminence Front” but insisted that the lyrics were “livin’ on a bus.” Said it was about the Who’s experience touring.
Our Cup.
if this doesn't
wet your appetiite, I don’t know what will.
I think that’s the whole kitten caboodle.
Do I know what rhetorical means?
some of those are pretty bad
I feel like chomping at the bit, card shark, spitting image, and irregardless are ensconced in our culture, there’s not much hope for those. But seriously, who says blessing in the skies, take for granite, and heineken remover? I’ve never heard any of that.
Ditto for Badgerdano
Then you can just perform the hiney-lick maneuver on yourself.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 14, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
additionally
the 4 that I quoted as ensconced are probably that way because the phrase, as said incorrectly, still captures the essence of the original expression. The other ones completely change the meaning of the expression.
Ditto for Badgerdano
Never underestimate (overestimate?) the non-reading public.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 14, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
i draw the line
at irregardless.
As for the rest of these, i could care less.
Do I know what rhetorical means?
It wouldn't be the first time
and probably not the last.
wikipedia, for what it's worth
Flynn had a reputation for his womanizing, consumption of alcohol and brawling. His freewheeling, hedonistic lifestyle caught up with him in November 1942 when two under-age girls, Betty Hansen and Peggy Satterlee, accused him of statutory rape. A group was organized to support Flynn, named the American Boys’ Club for the Defense of Errol Flynn (ABCDEF); its members included William F. Buckley, Jr. The trial took place in January and February 1943, and Flynn was cleared of the charges. The incident served to increase his reputation as a ladies’ man, which led to the popular phrase “in like Flynn”, the phrase being later parodied in the James Coburn comedy spy film In Like Flint.
The movie, In Like Flint is referenced in the 2nd Austin Powers movie. In the beginning of the movie, Austin turns on the tv and says “In Like Flint! That’s my favorite movie.” The Austin Powers movie is where I had first heard anything related to that particular expression.
Ditto for Badgerdano
This is a bit late...
but “In like Flint” was a 1967 movie starring James Coburn. It was a James Bond parody film, and hilarious if you ask me. The title was simply a funny variation of the original phrase “In like Flynn”.
And did you hear the Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup?
by TrickyDickAllen on Sep 15, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
6th Round
Pretty strange he didn’t go until the 6th Round….?
by NesterenkosGhost on Sep 14, 2010 12:12 PM CDT reply actions
He was drafted in 2006, same as his Frosh year at UVM. It’s likely that he was a relative unknown coming out of Sweden as far as how he’d translate to the North American game. Given that he’s been a Hobey Baker finalist and made it to the NHL, I’d say it’s been a pretty solid showing for what was a low-risk late-round pick.
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Things have changed forever, we're the Ramblin' Boys of Pleasure
the draft age is sort of absurdly low for most players
they aren’t even physically matured yet – so the draft is a rather massive crap shoot for the most part
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Wordy McWord.
First round is usually a good indication that they’ll make the big show, but past that it’s iffy.
Sometimes you pick a Kaner in the first, and sometimes you pick a Cam Barker (third overall pick, generally considered bust). Past that, it’s little science and a whole lot of luck.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Sep 14, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Good ending with Barker, though
Apparently Leddy really impressed during the rookie games, though he’s a bit undersized. I still think we kind of fleeced Minny in that deal.
FYI
If anyone is planning on being in the Bay Area while the Hawks are here (11/24 and/or 12/11), Sharks tickets go on sale this Friday.
And I don't wanna talk to a scientist
Y’all muthafuckers lyin’, and gettin’ me pissed.
Chicago Blackhawks - 2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Things have changed forever, we're the Ramblin' Boys of Pleasure
thats the kind of lyrical genius
that can only come from a group of dudes from Detroit who paint their faces
by BigCSouthside on Sep 14, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
These guys are geniuses...
Or not. I really, quite seriously, can’t even tell.
To form that massive juggernaut of a fan base by doing whatever the fuck it is they’ve been up to… it’s some sort of weird revolution of the completely fucked, staged by people who consistently toe the line between retarded and genius. Big Money Hustlas/Rustlas had so many alternating moments of WTF brilliance and WTF non-brilliance. It damn near made my head asplode.
I don’t know if they’re the butt of the joke, if Juggalo nation is, or if I am. But whatever it is, it’s a pretty baffling joke.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
From PD
Viktor Stalberg, Troy Brouwer and Jack Skille battling for a top-six slot for the Chicago Blackhawks speaks volumes about their offseason, doesn’t it?
Who’s gonna have the heart to tell him Troy Brouwer was on our top-six before the offseason?
but he is going to have to fight to stay there (maybe with Bickell too)
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I just hope we beat the fuck out of everybody
just because of these comments, we lost some people, but seriously, nothing is fucked here dude
by BigCSouthside on Sep 14, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm really ok with this.
I’m sure some PD peabrain commenter would tell me I’m crazy, but well, it’s PD commenters.
by Katherine215 on Sep 14, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
But we're supposed to be screwed.
We lost Buff who was clearly the heart of the team during the regular season.
All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity. - Gordie Howe
Don't forget the fact he was totally gypped of the Conn Smythe
I mean, Toews? Really? Whose idea was that?
If he was scotched
the Conn Smythe would’ve been sold off so Tazer could buy smack & some deep-fried ice-cream.
The ONLY reason Tazer got the Conn Smythe was
not the he deserved (obviously Buff earned that vs VAN alone) but it was so the Hawks would have $4M less to spend to hasten there total dismemberment this off season so we could read a quote like this-
Viktor Stalberg, Troy Brouwer and Jack Skille battling for a top-six slot for the Chicago Blackhawks speaks volumes about their offseason, doesn’t it?
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Listen to the wisdom of James Madison!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 14, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions
O/T - The Odd Couple, Episode 11: The Tri-Poon Tournament, Part 1.
It’s the biggest tourney of Kaner’s life. http://bit.ly/c5I4VT
by ben9599 on Sep 14, 2010 3:10 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
And...
for the second straight day, I’ve laughed hysterically at a Blackhawks/Justin Bieber reference.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
Porn References
I feel like I’m the only dude on the same page as McClure’s porn references in almost every one of his posts. Is this the case, or are there other sick bastards that can name more than 37 pornstars and whether they take booty duty or not?
My bad.
I guess I’m not alone. Just read all your reactions above. Glad I’m in the company of fellow videobox.com customers.
Big Buff
It’s no secret that all three of you weren’t huge fans of Big Buff’s game. Up until the Vancouver series one couldn’t disagree, but that’s all water under the bridge at this point, with #33 having been dealt to Hotlanta.
I agree that his regular season performance(s) with our club was what one could and should have expected from a skater drafted 245th overall in 2003. That said, he was a character guy more than anything, His absence in our October dressing room will, undoubtedly, impact team morale and perhaps chemistry. Consider Sam’s post-season description of Big Buff “…the weapon that seemingly drove [British Columbia] into madness…” Accurate, to say the least. His mere presence on Canadian soil sent shock waves through the entire Canucks organization. He gave our club the performance of a lifetime from Game 3 of that series all the way through the Finals.
Questions: do you agree that his absence will impact our team’s morale/chemistry?
I think, with that team,
they were ALL locker room guys. I think this was one of those unique situations where they all brought out the best in each other both professionally and personally. However, if I’m looking at whose absence will have the biggest impact in the locker room, Buff’s name is not at the top of my list. I think Burish or Versteeg have that honor.
All that said, there’s new faces and personalities this year that will create a new chemistry which will be unable to fathom replacing a year from now.
Also, have to disagree on your last part – Buff’s performance of a lifetime didn’t make it through the finals, it sort of stopped when it met an actual Dman with some skill and size in Pronger.
by Katherine215 on Sep 14, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I think we got more than he was worth
just because of the playoffs, I don’t think his on ice impact will be seen throughout this season. He’s decent, but he is not the foundation that this team is built on. And I like Buff.
by BigCSouthside on Sep 14, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I liked Buff too
but his value was more in the matchup problems he created than in his actual offensive scoring ability. As soon as a D-man had the physical attributes to match up to Buff’s size (see Pronger) Buff disappeared. The matchup problems will not be easy to recreate, but Buff’s scoring ability can be easily replaced, IMO.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark
I have to agree
I think Buff had a minimal impact on the locker room. He didn’t strike me as a particularly gregarious guy who played a significant role in the locker room chemistry. Like you said, Versteeg and Burish are at the top of my list as well for whose absence will most affect chemistry. Those two and Kane are the ones who I saw as keeping the mood very light.
My question is who is Kane going to play with off the ice this season? All his fellow miscreants are gone (VerBeauty, Burish and Madden).
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark
I'm hoping Turco TBH.
I bet Marty could teach him about partying even harder, all the while brainwashing him with a little bit of common sense old badass street smarts shit that Kaner just ain’t got.
Though, I guess I could’ve said the same about Madden.
Once Beach comes up, all bets are off though. Kid seems like a riot.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
Not sure,
but I wouldn’t be surprised at both.
On a related note… photoshop fodder?

It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
I guess it depends
in the way that you use it.
/runs and looks for cover, en route gets hit in back of head with a tomato
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 14, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
During the regular season
Jesse Rogers talked about how Buff was one of the guys on the team that hung out with everyone, and even guys you didn’t think he would, like Kopecky.
I think Buff will be missed in the locker room in that way. Despite his up and down performances, I get the feeling that the guys liked buff. This doesn’t mean it will hurt the team a lot, but I could see Buff being missed more than Versteeg and Burr in some ways because those two seem more like clique type guys, whereas Buff has the whole real easy going and carefree thing going for him.
Ditto for Badgerdano
You know your product was legit,
if you blew your competitors Bubble Tape and Bubble Yum out of the water.
I’ve actually known folks to mix that stuff with chew. Not for me, but wow. Kudos science.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
Mixing your chew with gum
helped to keep it together in your mouth so you wouldn’t be swallowing hunks of it.
Our Cup.
chew = chewing tobacco, the loose leaf kind (as opposed to Red Man, which is whole leaf and doesn’t migrate all over your mouth).
Our Cup.
you're not missing much
it’s pretty disgusting, imo.
by Katherine215 on Sep 15, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
that's a good point
Honestly, I think they’ll all be missed in their own way but the team will just have a new chemistry this year.
by Katherine215 on Sep 15, 2010 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Question
Does anyone feel that the departure of our assistant coaches will have an impact on either the PP or the team as a whole?
by CaptainByfuglien on Sep 14, 2010 4:16 PM CDT reply actions
I think the answer to this question is maybe it’ll effect half the team…
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 14, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
PP it should affect positively IMO
Then again it could be argued that it’s the new talent that does it as well. I don’t know. I just don’t see our PP getting any worse than last year with the talent we have and I’m hoping Kitchen helps propel our PP to the top of the league.
I was hoping Kitchen could do that too, but this doesn't make me feel very optimistic
and there’s nothing jumping off the screen from Mike Kitchen’s past that suggest he’ll turn it around in short order. Expect some frustration in the early going from the power play unit.
Somebody has to be able to get the powerplay figured out though. There’s absolutely no reason the hawks shouldn’t have a top 10 powerplay, and I don’t think top 5 is out of the question, all of the pieces are there.
Ditto for Badgerdano
Question
Does anyone feel that the departure of our assistant coaches will have an impact on either the PP or the team as a whole?
by CaptainByfuglien on Sep 14, 2010 4:16 PM CDT reply actions
who besides Torch are you referring to?
and doesn’t McClure sort of answer the PP question?
by Katherine215 on Sep 14, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
…and this one will effect the other half.
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 14, 2010 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I was going with the less common usage of effect as a verb
Per yourdictionary.com:
If you want to describe something that was caused or brought about, the right word to use is effect.
Example: The new manager effected some positive changes in the office. (This means that the new manager caused some positive changes to take place in the office.)
I think an argument can be made for either usage here. Bring on the English majors.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 14, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah, I see
I’m more familiar with that version of the word being used with an explicit “change”, such as “to effect a change” (like you did in your example). My mistake.
No, it's probably my bad
but if I was able to make you feel bad for a moment, then I succeeded ;)
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 14, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
“affect a change” is to impact the change in some way
“effect a change” is to be a cause of the change
Our Cup.
Yes
but the point I’m making is that “affect” means to change, whereas “effect a change” means to provide impetus for the change. As such, I’m normally more familiar with “effect” used in that way having the word “change” included in the sentence, instead of just implied.
you're doing it wrong
sure, an argument can be made. a lotta arguents can be made.
Do I know what rhetorical means?
Just in
By E.J. Hradek
ESPN The Magazine
The NHL’s Board of Governors approved Tuesday a change to the league’s standings tiebreaking procedure, putting more focus on regulation and overtime victories.
In the past, the first tiebreaker was total wins. The amended rule will eliminate shootout wins from that equation, leaving the total number of regulation and overtime wins as the first tiebreaking mechanism.
they could just eliminate the shootout all together
by BigCSouthside on Sep 14, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I really like
some of the overtime alternatives that have been proposed and tested, like the 4-on-4 and then 3-on-3 formats. If they switch ends after each to create the long changes, even better.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark
I honestly don't mind it...
I know it’s sacrilege bullshit, but it’s for the same reasons I like the AL and NL remaining different in regards to the DH. One’s the right way to be played, but the other makes things interesting when interleague play starts. (not a perfect example by all means, but apples and oranges are at least similar).
So long as shootouts are NEVER a part of the post season, I’m good with the way it is.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
yeah, I don't really hate it that much either
I don’t think there are too many better options, outside of a straight up tie.
Ditto for Badgerdano
Ditto
I know everyone rails on the SO here, but it’s nice to see games not end in a tie like in the old days. At the same time, I don’t like how all but a few teams end up over .500 because of the shootout. It definitely helps league interest though, because it makes even shitty teams look half-decent in the standings. I do think some of the proposed alternatives sound exciting.
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 14, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I have heard about this possible change for a while now
glad to see it was approved.
"Every player should be accorded the privilege of at least one season with the Chicago Cubs. That's baseball as it should be played - in God's own sunshine. And that's really living." -- Alvin Dark
I was under the impression haviland was gone. My bad
by CaptainByfuglien on Sep 14, 2010 4:39 PM CDT reply actions
I think that'd be a much bigger loss than Torch
Havi does so much work with the Dmen, and it seems like the Dmen are often times the most well coached players on the team
Ditto for Badgerdano
off topic question
It was once said that “heroes get remembered, but legends never die.” Is it possible that Peter Forsberg (or Toews) is both a hero and a legend?
He did.
And I think you can be both.
I for one, hope that Toews never dies, and is remembered forever.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
I did
not about to get defensive about it, either
How about a good offense?
Like making your reply so blindingly perfect that nobody can tell it’s not supposed to begin a new thread of discussion.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
Blackhawks # 1
Hawks are 1 in the Power Rankings..
And is that seriously the guy who runs Broad Street Hockey? Hilarious.
19-88-81-2-7-10-36-4-51 : The Hawks
No kidding.
And is that seriously the guy who runs Broad Street Hockey? Hilarious.
Met this guy in Reno last weekend. Friend of friends. No idea why my friends were friends with him. Tremendous doucher. Negative, antagonistic fuck… and no, not in a good way. Just an atrocious dude. Flyers fan. Looks just like that BSH guy. I can’t say much for captain broad street since I don’t know him personally, but judging solely by the photo… “sounds like a typical bastard.”
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
Meanwhile over at Kovalchuk Daddy...
…Wysh slams the Hawks again. It’s “inexplicable” that the funny looking nerd from Broad Street Hockey ranked the Hawks #1. Presumably he would also have a problem with the Hawks being ranked 2-3-4 too.
Im just surprised he found the time to write about anything else other than his beloved Devils.
19-88-81-2-7-10-36-4-51 : The Hawks
How do you not know Puck Daddy?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy
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by HjammerTime on Sep 15, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Evening Puck Headlines for yesterday. Wysh remarks on the The Power Rankings list is from SBN.
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by HjammerTime on Sep 15, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Per McKenzie twitter:
Marc Staal has agreed to terms with NYR. Five years, $3.975M per year. Done deal.
$4M per, on a 5 year deal… could the Hawks point to this as a possible template for a Seabrook deal?
by spokeinthebandwagon on Sep 15, 2010 11:45 AM CDT reply actions
I thought that was a bit surprising
I thought Staal was more comparable to Hjalmarsson than Seabrook, and due to the offer sheet, Hammer is probably overpaid by 500-750k.
Ditto for Badgerdano
overpaying for bad players, yes? but for good ones?
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Staal and Del Zotto are the future anchors for the Blueshirts' blueline
Good signing by Sather (something I don’t often say).
Staal and Del Zotto are the future anchors for the Blueshirts' blueline
Good signing by Sather (something I don’t often say).
Staal and Del Zotto are the future ant whores for the Blueshirts' blueline
Good signing by Sather (something I don’t often say).
/pssst. pass it along.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 15, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Staal and Del's otter are the fuchsia antlers for the bullshit blueline
Do I know what rhetorical means?
by cliffkoroll on Sep 15, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

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