So Listen To The Knowledge Being Dropped Over Beats, Beats That Are Hard, Beats That Are Funky: Your 2010/2011 Blackhawks Preview
by SamFels on Sep 20, 2010 12:49 PM CDT
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Print...we can get you hooked like a crackhead junkie. Anyway, continuing our socialist dream of a season preview, today I'll look at a question from Jrs23:
-Will Turco receive the same treatment from the meatheads at the UC as Huet?
Well, lots of people have gone broke trying to predict the behavior of the unwashed masses (this is how you end up with something as hilarious and stupid as The Tea Party movement), but I'll do my best. I have to say, over the summer I was pretty impressed with the majority of readers on this blog and others that the general shoulder-shrug that Niemi's exit got. Everyone had done the math, knew what Niemi was at this point in his career, and how the Hawks system tends to minimize what the goalie is responsible for. And while some writers in this city tried to stoke some outrage, albeit half-heartedly, I didn't see too many taking the bait.
Sadly, a great majority of those occupying seats in the UC do not read this blog, no matter what McClure and I might think or claim in our most arrogant and self-important moments (of which there are plenty).
With the Hawks being the hot-ticket in town right now (and if you don't believe it, see how quickly your preseason tickets gets snapped up on the Exchange), there's going to be a fair number of bandwagon types around from the get-go, not from March on as last year. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, as these are people we can teach and bring in to our every happy yet dysfunctional family. But a lot of these are only familiar with the team they came to know last spring, and the first time a power play doesn't score within 30 seconds you'll be hearing a lot of "Well if Buff were in front...", even though a lot of Buff's power play time didn't come in front of the net, if it came at all. Or the first time the Hawks don't bury three in the first period, the calls for Steeger will get louder. It's the nature of the beast.
Unfortunately, this will also apply to Marty Turco. Last year, Hawks fans came with knives sharpened from the opening bell for Cristobal Huet, even though no one's been able to tell me what exactly the sin was he committed during his first year here, when he played half the games -- and generally well -- and didn't play in the playoffs. All he did was sign a big contract offered. Now, while Huet's biggest problem was having the mental capacity of a puppy, it certainly didn't help that the UC crowd turned every game into a road game for him. Even when he was stellar in November and December -- and he was, look it up -- he and all of us knew that the boos and bile were just around the corner. A professional athlete should be mentally tougher than that, granted, but still, I think it was kind of a ridiculous circumstance.
Now, Turco is not saddled with what is obviously considered one of the biggest offenses in this town -- having a large contract (daaap, I still dunno 'bout dis Cutman! He needs a beard like Orkman!). However, Turco will be plying his trade in front of large swaths of people who will claim that Niemi was the best goalie they've ever seen, because it's the only goalie they've ever seen. All of these people are dying for the Hawks to win again mostly so they can claim "they were there from the beginning", and the moment Turco looks like not providing that, they'll display their "expertise".
Secondly, and this is an issue we'll get into more in the coming days, the Hawks first two months could be a little rockier than we're used to. There are lineup issues to sort out, new players to develop a rapport with, and other players still shaking out the cobwebs of a season far longer than any have experienced. The Hawks will lose games in October and November that we're not accustomed to seeing them lose. Generally, the first place eyes turn in the goalie.
That said, Turco is made of far sterner stuff than Cris is. He has a pretty sharp sense of humor to deflect it all, and has been through this before in Dallas. I also don't expect him to shit the bed at all, and he's got a team in front of him that can still win games when he's off. But yeah, just you wait for that first night he lets in four.
-Now that we're a couple days into camp and new questions have emerged, I'm going to do another cattle call for more questions for our preview in the comments of this post. Have at it.
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Makarov
I’m completely on the Igor Makarov bandwagon after seeing him at camp. What are the odds he actually makes the big club?
if he keeps up with the outstanding camp - 80%
he’s playing very well and he’s one of the least expensive of the pool of potential new additions.
if he continues the playing very well part, he’s in.
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I’m on the Makarov-wagon as well. To the point where I’m not wondering if he can make the team, but if he has a reasonable shot at being Rookie of the Year. The seems to find him, then find the net shortly after. I love it
Where was all of this a couple of seasons ago?
Makarov looked good enough to be on the roster a few seasons ago, based solely on his camp and pre-season play, but was sent back for more “seasoning.”
Probably a combination of
*too young.
*no initial interest in playing in the AHL (apparently he has voiced he is willing to “serve time” in Rockford if it means making the Big Club roster this season).
*not enough room.
Thankfully thats all moot at this point. Is it Wednesday yet??
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
This, and:
if he makes the ‘Hawks lineup, where does he slot in? From what I’ve heard, he’s a 1st or 2nd line type player, but I don’t really want to just hand him something like that straight off the bat.
if he earns a roster spot and that is where he fits best, that is where I want him
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
How quickly will Turco’s puck-handling skillz (yeah, with a “z”) paired with Dunc and Soupy’s breakout ability, become “a thing”? I imagine we’ll have to give those two, and others, some time to adjust to, “holy shit, it’s at my tape already! shitshitshit, uh-ummm, okay…here we go!”
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
Goalie treatment
Turco is one Dallas fluke goal against from getting booed just as Huet. In this town, it’s never safe to be the starting goalie.
I can’t wait to see the various newspaper pundits chime in when Niemi gets his first shutout for San Jose…“Hawks blunder, 2nd coming of Hasek, etc…”
Eddie got off for years allowing horrible goals in the playoffs. People were crying after we traded him..just sayin.
19-88-81-2-7-10-36-4-51 : The Hawks
That’s after the Eagle built up years of goodwill. If he acted like that his first few years, he would have been run out of town.
My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.
Personal opinion only,
but I called Belfour the flopping eagle, and Swiss Cheese for years before he left Chicago, and was glad for him when he won a cup later on. Through all of it, I never booed him. Not once.The only sports figure I ever booed was Bill Laimbeer of the detroit criminals pistons. Thank God he never played for the Bulls, I support my teams, including the players on them that suck. I may call them unflattering nick names on the Internet, (Wiggum you idiot!), but never in “our” house.
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TMFF is a Genius. 'Nuff said.
by burpchelischili on Sep 20, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for answering
I agree we have all been pretty reasonable here, I just wanted to know the majority. I mean with Huet he signed the big contract and there was “so much expected” and most of the mass idiots didn’t know what else to do if they weren’t booing Campbell.
Now w/ Turco it’s not so much the contract but coming off the cup it’s Niemi should be there they should of kept Niemi. It’s one giant mind fuck to try and understand some people. I for one can’t wait to see his stick handling skills with Keith and Campbell leading the rush. It’s going to take some time like you said w/ October and November but I think by December they should be clicking full swing.
Now if they would just get rid of that damn “trap” a zoid
I'm surprised the NHL didn't rename this the Duncan Keith rule
All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity. - Gordie Howe
Who will be the most "underrated "/ "under-the-radar" Blackhawk in 2010-11?
Plus, I want to echo some of the questions from above, ie, How good of a shot does Makarov have of not only playing in pre-season games but of actually cracking the opening night roster?
His relatively low cap hit and outstanding production over the course of the Rookie Tourny in Toronto and his past two days of Camp seem like he has the best chance out of all the newbies.
Also, based on his own production and potential, what are the chances we see Marcus Kruger up sometime in Feb/March of 2011?
I ask this is given the Swedish Elite League’s Reg Season has already started and is about 30 games shorter than an NHL Reg Season, not to mention Kruger is coming off a year he scored “Most Points by a Rookie” (31) and a garnered a Rookie of The Year nod!
I’ve had a pretty big hockey-crush on this kid ever since i started reading about him. Scored at a more fervent pace in his Rookie Year than Niklas Backstrom did in his Rookie Year in the SEL PLUS this kid is a Center! Good reason to be excited, no?
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
I am fuzzing on this ... can european players be brought over mid or late season
I was semi-recalling some sort of deadline on this
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Good point ... hmmm.
I just figured that if the SEL Reg Season ends and if Kruger doesn’t wind up going to the playoffs (where he scored 10pts in 16 playoff games last season, mind you) if there is ANY chance we might see him in early 2011.
But good looking out, krome. I have no idea what the deadline or rules are for bringing over Euro prospects mid-season, I’m just really anxious to see this kid play in an Indian Head sweater (if it wasn’t too obvious).
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
Piling on Turco...
…would be very stupid. The guy took less money to come play here in Chicago which allowed us the flexibility to match the offer to Hjammer and bring in some of these 500K vets like Pisani and Potluny.
The only thing that worries me about him is that, historically speaking, he sucks against the team that I hate about as much as Satan. This probably worries me more than most because outside of my father and uncle the only other people I know that like hockey are Red Wings fans (I went to college in Michigan) and its all I’ve heard from them since we signed him. I always retort that the Hawks 4th defenseman is better than the Stars 1st but they seem to brush that off.
19-88-81-2-7-10-36-4-51 : The Hawks
ill i have to say to those SCUM fans you know is the following -
Fucking arrogant SCUM fans … Ruslan Salei on the blue line isn’t making me shake in my boots!
(my little bro is a SCUM fan, HjammerTime, so I feel for your pain)
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
Little bro a Scum fan! Ouch! I got a cousin who worshipped Cheli and followed him to the Wings. It still pisses me off to this day.
Also they laugh as us about Turco while they go around saying Mike Modano is going to totally revitalize all of their secondary scorers! It makes me sick. Can’t wait for Oct. 9.
19-88-81-2-7-10-36-4-51 : The Hawks
if your brother is a scum fan
you are hereby authorized to violate all protocols of the Geneva Conventions and torture his ass Jack Bauer style
TELL ME WHY YOU ARE A FUCKING TRAITOR!…all right, thats it, I’m going to need a hack saw
by BigCSouthside on Sep 20, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
HA! I think watching the Sharks knock his Dead Wings out of contention only to be swept by our Blackhawks before WINNING THE STANLEY CUP
Might have been torture enough!
But you can never have too much of a good thing, right?
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
Tell your friends
that if by chance Turco continues to suck against SCUM, the Hawks like most teams carry two goalies on their roster. I have faith in our coaching staff that they would have no problem putting Crawford in the net
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Most important thing to remember if you hear
and the first time a power play doesn’t score within 30 seconds you’ll be hearing a lot of “Well if Buff were in front…”
is that last year our PP led to more dogs being put to death than Michael Vick, and Buff had nothing to do with any of it.
Our Cup.
by 334Rules on Sep 20, 2010 2:17 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Also
for those still wondering about Kaner (relative to the questions noted in the 9/17 preview), I’d invite you to take a look at Crazy 88s sick fucking breakaway goal on Saturday.
Rumor has it Leighton saw a clip and pissed himself just a little. And don’t even ASK what Lu thought!
Our Cup.
On a side note
My buddy installs cable and he is doing Panda’s right now and texted me. I told him to say hi like i’m a little school girl and ask him if he ever heard of his nickname.
Man I wish I was him right now
Um,
is Mrs Panda at home?
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TMFF is a Genius. 'Nuff said.
by burpchelischili on Sep 20, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I sure hope she wasn't
It’s bad enough I was jealous of Mr. Panda being there. Imagine if both were there. It would be Hard to focus…
Huh,
who knew that I would be jelous of a cable guy/gal.
Fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Blackhawks!
Fan of the not 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Isles!
TMFF is a Genius. 'Nuff said.
by burpchelischili on Sep 20, 2010 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
"he fixes the cable?"
Just stick to that script, and you won’t get murdered by zombie panda. Any other riff raff, and you’re fair game.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
you're telling me
David Bolland apparently just ran past my roommate. Working out or something, I guess.
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Sep 20, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
If the Blackhawks were the crew of the USS Alabama
Who would be Gene Hackman and who would be Denzel Washington?
I think Tazer would be Hackman. Besides both being captains, Tazer follows orders to the letter and would not let some punk-ass second in command cause a mutiny on his sub.
I think Sharpie would play the Denzel role because he seems like he might have a bit of a rebellious streak in him and is able to discern the grey areas in a moral dilemma.
I also think that Viggo Mortenson’s conflicted Lt. Weps would be played by Hjalmarsson.
Roll Tide!
That, and both Denzel and Sharp are beautiful, beautiful men.
Second City Hockey
Things have changed forever, we're the Ramblin' Boys of Pleasure
It's like they were both
carved from the same block of ebony.
OT, but to all those airheads [one SCUM writter comes to mind] who do not like the National Anthem at the UC
I know everyone of those 20,000+ fans are on their feet for the Anthem, which is more than I can say of what I saw yesterday.
I was at a Fireman’s Parade here in CT and the only person to ever once stand for the Flag or Anthem was this old gentleman in a scooter (I was able to get a few good pics showing it). Every time the Flag paraded by, he rose, removed his hat and placed it over his heart. I saw only one other person do this some of the time, not even the fireman or police could do it, and NONE of the crowd [less the one an I mentioned] ever rose once.
If people want to talk about disrespect, and talk about the UC cheering during the Anthem, go to your local parade and see if you see this happen too. Then tell me which is more disrespectful. I for one would take seeing everyone of them or those at the UC cheer like no tomorrow, than to see all do nothing at all.
While I was watching this happen yesterday, for some reason the two contrasts came to mind, and have got to tell you I love what happens at the UC, and would have been thrilled to see the same emotion even once yesterday!
<I now step off my Soapbox, and return you to your regularly scheduled program of Hawks, Porn and Booze………….oh and Goalie contraversies.>
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Listen to the wisdom of James Madison!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 4:03 PM CDT reply actions
I have seen it before,
and consequently was asked in a very impolite manner to leave the area due to excessive cursing. Handcuffs aren’t always fun.
Fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Blackhawks!
Fan of the not 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Isles!
TMFF is a Genius. 'Nuff said.
by burpchelischili on Sep 20, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Question
If you had to pick one and only one, which would you say will be the the strength of the team this season, the offense, the defense or the goaltending?
I only ask because while last year I thought of the Hawks of a top tier offensive team that played good team defense I’m starting to think that this season’s team may be one with a very strong defense that has potent offensive abilities.
I would say defense too
It’s a strong team defense aside from our excellent top 4. The two-way play of Toews, Hossa, Sharp, Bolland (maybe others?) puts it over the top for me.
by Katherine215 on Sep 20, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
And I realize that was for the alcoholics
but I just felt like giving my opinion anyway. :)
by Katherine215 on Sep 20, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll just get this started
“We can’t win the Cup with Turco in net!”
“Yes we can!”
“No we can’t he is old and stuff, and Crawford is young and stuff”
“Fuck you, Turco is skilled”
“Fuck you he does not have the athletic ability of Crawford”
“Fuck you!”
“No, FUCK YOU!”
“You’re fucking retarded”
“Yeah well Turco fucking sucks, Niemi was better”
“Thats fucking bullshit, get out of here Turco hater”
MESSAGE FROM SAM: “Play nice with each other or we will fucking kill you”
-———-END 2010-11 GOALTENDER DEBATE—————-
by BigCSouthside on Sep 20, 2010 4:11 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
well played, old boy.
well played indeed.
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
You act like you have been through this before?
Because I know the Huet-Niemi thing resembled nothing of this (Their were more porn references in that one).
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Listen to the wisdom of James Madison!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Illinois Grammar Police
I Fucking hate Illinois Grammar Police
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Listen to the wisdom of James Madison!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Bring me
four fried chickens and a Coke.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
incomplete
without the great GAA vs. SV% argument quality chances, rhythm goalies, antics of the crazy stache, eye test, Derek Zona, butterfly, fuck you Boooooooooooo! bay of pigs, berlin, etc.
We like our people.
by cliffkoroll on Sep 20, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
lol
So many arguments, so little brain power to defeat them…
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TMFF is a Genius. 'Nuff said.
by burpchelischili on Sep 20, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Question
How do you see our 3rd and 4th lines shaking out after the beginning of camp?
What do you think we can expect out of them this season as well?
WAIT FOR THE WHISTLE!!!!
by hawkie on Sep 20, 2010 4:29 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I'm no expert
But I honestly don’t see our 3rd and 4th lines being much less skilled, if at all, compared to last year. The main issue will probably be one-ice chemistry, but that’ll come with time.
If you think about it, our 3rd line has a great center. Whoever’s on that line, be it Brouwer, Kopecky, Stalberg, Makarov, Skille, etc, etc will be able to match up what we lost last year in Versteeg/Ladd/Buff, especially with a full year of a healthy Bolland.
The 4th line last year was just like any team’s 4th line. They were the energy line that played 10 or so minutes a night and gives the top lines a chance to rest. If they scored, it was a bonus. They were pretty good defensively and I think that may be the toughest challenge for our new 4th liners, but in terms of pure point production, I believe the new 4th line should be better.
In the first Star Trek movie, Kirk said "he needed a Vulcan"...
Regarding the 3rd/4th lines, “we need a Ladd”…
After that, it’s warp speed Zulu…
Did I freaking just say that?
My Father's name is Jack, and my Mother's name is Daniels...
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Sam,
You know your hockey…gotta give you your props, but politics, um, not so much.
Can you please leave your liberal, uninformed, biased and lemming following politics at the door? Just concentrate on hockey, the one subject that you actually have enough brain cells left to comment on, and leave the politics to the “unwashed masses”. I have lots of websites to visit and read your brand of political drivel…let’s keep this focused on hockey…PLEASE?
by bobeinhorn on Sep 20, 2010 5:04 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
That was pretty harsh
Plus, since most of us give of opinion on that issue, why shouldn’t Sam.
it's paraphrasing the saying "those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"
by blackhawkeyes on Sep 20, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
she knows that
and I’m assuming Katherine is questioning the application of said phrase.
Ditto for Badgerdano
i thought the aim was calling out hypocracy
by blackhawkeyes on Sep 20, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
oooooook
of course the aim was calling out hypocracy, as you’ve pointed out, that is the purpose of the phrase
questioning the application of the phrase, as in, “how am I a hypocrite in this regard”
Ditto for Badgerdano
sorry for the patronizing...
but I’m assuming it was really a reply to bob, who was calling out sam for being “liberal, uninformed, and biased” in a way that was equally biased
by blackhawkeyes on Sep 20, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Obviously I know what glass houses and stones refers to
Hack is right, I was referring to the application of the phrase. I don’t see how it’s hypocritical for Sam to make a comment on politics on his own blog.
by Katherine215 on Sep 21, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I suppose I read the original misspelling
and just carried it on accidentally. Thanks.
Ditto for Badgerdano
i didn't even notice above
just thought it was funny with all the political crap swirling around.
i think ’hypo-" means small or shrunken (ok beavis, have at it) and “-cracy” means government.
We like our people.
exactly
why should idiotic political commentary be the sole province of idiotic commenters like me?
We like our people.
I would only say
Since he is one of the Trio of Alcoholics, not some mere peasant visiting the site, it may make some feel uncomfortable or unwanted if their view happened to be differing from theirs.
It does not in particular bother me at all and it is their blog and I’m all for expressing your beliefs, but I will say I come here for hockey, I go to other places for politics where I know where I stand. I try to stay clear here (though I’m not as good at is as I’d like to be). I love the character of this site as whole, and that is what keeps me here.
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Listen to the wisdom of James Madison!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd agree with you.
Unfortunately he’s spot on about the Tea Party.
The primary issue here is that his comment offended you. It’s not about it being a waste of your time since it wasn’t even a sentence long. His comment goes against what you believe and that’s why you don’t want to see it. Had he made a comment bashing the “uninformed, biased, and lemming following” liberals, there’d be no issue here. Hell, your comment was more offensive than his and I don’t say that just because I subscribe to Sam’s brand of political drivel either.
I guess my mind just ignores the political comments.
I was trying to figure out what bob was talking about. I would say the founding fathers are all about hockey, booze, music and porn with a little TV and movies thrown in there.
All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity. - Gordie Howe
having to deal with political movements (far more than I really like)
I’ve found that the so-called Tea Party folk have the normal level of nutcases, but a core of unusally normal folk who aren’t traditionally politically active but are incensed by the utterly unsustainable financial course our “leaders” have had us on for the last decade.
The media is heavily opposed to them and make much out of every odd thing (or simply make crap up entirely) so as to make them look far worse than they are – but they aren’t as whacky for the most part as most of the political groups I have to deal with.
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
they're incensed
but I don’t ever hear about the solutions they have to all their gripes. They’re just angry, which, fine, be angry. but offer a solution to go along with your rant.
by Katherine215 on Sep 21, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
they do have a plan - basically a "Reaganomics" sort of blueprint
which did, after all, work pretty well before (for that period of time that it was at least loosely followed).
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I'm sorry, but
I see it as wanting to pay less taxes and still have all the benefits. What would they like to give up that our taxes currently pay for? Education? Social Security? Who will employ the thousands of people that will lose their jobs with “smaller” government?
by Katherine215 on Sep 21, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
I really can't speak for them on what service mix they want
but the boom years from the implementation of Reaganomics were a great expansion of the economy and a period of very low unemployment.
Government is needed for some tasks, but not very productive itself (and is a drag on the productive segment of the economy).
Remember, high tax rates generate low tax revenues, while low tax rates generate higher tax revenues.
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Well, I disagree with you
as I believe the economy grows more for a greater number of people under democratic policies than under Republican policies. But this whole thread is getting a little crazy, so I’m just going to (try to) stop here.
by Katherine215 on Sep 21, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
disagree all you want - the numbers are very consistently supportive
historically and wide spread across the states (as well as federal) experiences: rates up = revenues down and rates down = revenues up.
The states doing well are overwhelming the low tax ones and viz versa. It isn’t a matter of liking it or not, it is that way regardless.
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Your statistics are completely flawed
because you do not include the extra $5T in debt (therefore future taxes plus interest) Reagan laid upon us. Once you consider that, Reagan was the biggest tax and spender of all time. In fact, it was his tax and spend policies that fixed the economy. After all, he was really a Democrat at his core.
by stanfordron on Sep 21, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I view much of that as the righting of the ship - and the 90s boom being the result of the policy
the 90s were after his term, but the boom being the result of the policies coming to fruition
economic policy changes often don’t show results for a fairly long time – longer than the election cycles
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I'm no longer involved in economics
and I have a real job that demands my time, so I’m not going to address this much, but that is correct but oversimplified. One of the things the data just cannot take into account is how much less the wealthiest pay than their official tax bracket. There are a wide variety of loopholes that the wealthiest take advantage of that the rest of us cannot, and the data is based on the official tax rate rather than the real taxes paid. (For example, Warren Buffet pays 17% of his income in federal taxes, even though he’s in the 35% tax bracket.)
So that stat is a yes, but…
Also, the states that are doing well are general the states with more diversified and/or stronger industry. It’s a chicken-and-egg question. Are those states doing well because of their low personal tax rates, or are their personal tax rates so low because they have the income from industry?
Personally, my soap box is the loopholes we allow in corporate tax. We allow companies to offshore their headquarters to avoid corporate tax and still let them be considered US companies, and we allow them very favorable tax rates to transfer goods between branches without paying import taxes, then we wonder why manufacturing is all leaving the country? Nonsensical.
low rates inspire less chicanery - high rates inspire much chicanery
the “little guys” will never have the political heft to have the chicanery break their way – thus, low rates and a simple system benefit everyone
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Much of that "boom" was brought on, by the way
by huge amounts of government spending.
It always amazes me that people insist RR was all about small government. He may have SAID that, but he was all about HUGE government in practice. He used the force of government to crush the ATCU (and the result is we now have a hugely overworked group of folks managing a vastly expanded aviation system).
Today, the modern GOP idolizes Reagan. But they worship a myth, an image, which has no real relation to reality. Reagan uttered all of the conservative buzzwords, but he governed much more like a pragmatist than the ideologically pure hero he’s made out to be.
And “high” tax rates are relative, and the equation my friend krome cites should have about 5 asterisks attached to it.
Our Cup.
this question
Who will employ the thousands of people that will lose their jobs with "smaller" government?
would seem to have a corollary, vix.:
Why not just increase the size of government and employ everyone?
We like our people.
by cliffkoroll on Sep 21, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
solution for unemployment?
Lets adjust the size of the government based on the unemployment rate. That small manufacturing company with 40 employees that won’t get a bailout from Washington because it wasn’t “too big to fail” like General Motors? Yeah, they had to shut down because they were overtaxed, over regulated, and people don’t have any money to buy their products. No worries, we’ll just create a few jobs in the State or Federal government. These 40 people won’t be manufacturing goods anymore, or providing services that can be sold to other people or companies. Instead, they’ll be “governing”, and drawing a decent salary and a sweet pension paid for by? Taxes. Its okay though, at least they have jobs.
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So what you're saying is...
Detroit is the future sight of our country’s capital?
Web surfing’s not a sport, it’s a way of life - you know, a hobby. It’s a way of looking at a wave of information and saying, "Hey blog, let’s party!"!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 21, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
the whole country, it would seem - as long as those crazy Tea Partiers gain no traction
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I agree with krome here
Every movement has its wack jobs. Plus, what political group really offers true solutions to problems? What we always end up with with are broken promises, blaming the other party, and watered-down compromises that ultimately solve nothing. We need a dictator.
I’m definitely not a tea partier – and I’m definitely not saying it’s a revolution, but most movements stem from people becoming fed up with a problematic system, not because they initially have clear-cut solutions.
Web surfing’s not a sport, it’s a way of life - you know, a hobby. It’s a way of looking at a wave of information and saying, "Hey blog, let’s party!"!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 21, 2010 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions
God I hope this isn't a revolution.
I’m moving to Sweden if their views ever become those of the majority.
Threatening to move to Sweden?
You’re doing it wrong.
We like our people.
by cliffkoroll on Sep 21, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
I knew something didn't sound right.
In all seriousness though, I’ve considered moving to Sweden in the past without any real reason to feel like I have to leave the States. I’ve always considered it one of the better places to live in.
Im a Republican but I hate the Tea Party. That being said they do have a platform that liberals choose to ignore.
They want to repeal Obamacare. They want to make the Bush tax cuts permanent. They will probably make a push to privatize social security. They are hardcore anti-abortion as well.
Their biggest problem is foreign policy where in my opinion they cease to be serious people.
19-88-81-2-7-10-36-4-51 : The Hawks
by HjammerTime on Sep 21, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Ok, so government should stay out of my life
except if I want to do something with my body (i.e. have an abortion) or marry someone of the same sex. Got it.
by Katherine215 on Sep 21, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Christine O'Donnell who is
a candidate for Senator in Delaware would like to add this to the list.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Yeah, i didn't even add
the masturbation one as it’s so ridiculous.
How would you even police that anyway?!
by Katherine215 on Sep 21, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Hairy palms
It’s a dead giveaway. I tell my kids I’m checking their hands before bed to make sure they’re clean – but what I’m really checking for is hairy palms.
Web surfing’s not a sport, it’s a way of life - you know, a hobby. It’s a way of looking at a wave of information and saying, "Hey blog, let’s party!"!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 21, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
well, that's a better idea
than the cameras in people’s bedrooms I was envisioning.
by Katherine215 on Sep 21, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
thank you CNS
for that wonderful insight into parenting. and for making me glad i haven’t procreated yet.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Sep 21, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Her best quote...
If he already knows what pleases him and he can please himself – then why am I in the picture??
If God had intended us not to masturbate, he would’ve made our arms shorter.
- George Carlin
Web surfing’s not a sport, it’s a way of life - you know, a hobby. It’s a way of looking at a wave of information and saying, "Hey blog, let’s party!"!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 21, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, because
in this woman’s world, the whole purpose of sex is just to make sure the guy is pleased. sigh.
by Katherine215 on Sep 21, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
I wish somebody would have told me this
God knows how much time I’ve wasted
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
we may be getting some insight into your issues there
you’ve certainly missed a big part of the picture. /sigh/
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
Well, technically
you are cheating on your other hand.
But not if...
Oh never mind
Web surfing’s not a sport, it’s a way of life - you know, a hobby. It’s a way of looking at a wave of information and saying, "Hey blog, let’s party!"!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 21, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions
ditto McClure's porn fetish
which differs from my porn fetish.
and the fucking musical refernces. You people ever hear of Jimmy Dorsey?
snark, Star Wars, etc.
you know, you forgot one thing: it’s supposed to be about the hockey.
We like our people.
by cliffkoroll on Sep 20, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tommy > Jimmy
he’s the one who hired Sinatra
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Haters gonna hate
Inbreds gonna mate
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 20, 2010 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Which leads inevitably to...
Extremely ugly children, and an endless supply of contributors to the Jerry Springer show.
My Father's name is Jack, and my Mother's name is Daniels...
Good ol' Jerry,
supporting trailer trash wanna-bes for more than a decade…
Fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Blackhawks!
Fan of the not 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Isles!
TMFF is a Genius. 'Nuff said.
by burpchelischili on Sep 20, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Can you please leave your liberal, uninformed, biased and lemming following politics at the door?
Because it doesn’t agree with you it’s uninformed? Or because it’s liberal it’s uninformed and lemming following politics? Even though I have commented on several political discussions here, I agree with you that this isn’t the best place for those discussions. That being said, I don’t agree with how you phrased your argument. It’s Sam’s blog, if you have a problem with it, there are more civil ways to make your point. Also, this comment: “Just concentrate on hockey, the one subject that you actually have enough brain cells left to comment on” is just plain rude and uncalled for. If Sam only has so few brain cells anyways, why do you care what he says about anything? Basically, in the words of Will Wheaton, Don’t be a Dick.
My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.
Wow, looks like I missed all the fun yesterday
As one who is convinced that both sides are primarily full of selfish, angry people with the debating skills of five kindergarten kids with one piece of candy, thank you for supporting my opinion.
I think the ridiculousness of this comment
is that it inspired SO MUCH MORE POLITICAL DISCUSSION than Sam’s brief 20-word opinion of a political party.
Great job on your first (and so far, only) comment, bobeinhorn! Way to keep this blog about hockey! 
You toss this bomb for your 2nd comment ever, Bobeinhorn?
I’m as conservative as anyone but you’re not going to win any arguments by calling people names and insulting them.
This entire thread: PAL-O-FUCKING-MINO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DROP THE FUCKING PUCK!
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
by Badgerdano on Sep 21, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
bomb?
Sorry…didn’t know that expressing an equal, but differing opinion was bomb tossing. Also, I didn’t know that I had to rack up comments before expressing myself. I come here for Hockey, not politics.
Peace
It's not the opinion
but the way you stated it. Plenty of people share and oppose your political view, but most try to say it in a less-insulting manner. Hack’s green comment is a perfect example of how you could have made your opinion about politics on a hockey board known.
Coming in, guns blazing, like you did in your first comments makes many people less likely to take you seriously or treat you respectfully since you come off as trollish. You appear to have been a member for awhile so I’m sure you’ve seen the dynamics of the comments section and can hopefully join the many debates and conversations we have here.
by Katherine215 on Sep 22, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
ok then...
Yes, you are correct… I came in a bit harsh…I apologize to Sam and his fans …I’ll give myself a 2 minute minor, taking into consideration that I DID give him major hockey props. And, I will take your advice when posting in the future…a humble thanks.
What are you new?
How I don’t what’s funnier…the fact you did not know that CI are SCH are run by lib-tards, or that conservatives would have the necessary amount of free time required to run a hockey blog. Come for the hockey insight and other non-political humor (which is admittedly fucking hilarious), and vote however you like.
The less a man makes declarative statements, the less apt he is to look foolish in retrospect.
rec'd
things are so bad now one of the 1980 US hockey players has to sell his gold medal…if that doesn’t tear you up you have no soul.
The last thing I want to read on a sports blog is politics from someone who doesn’t pay taxes. I come here to get away from all that bullshit and actually read some good news once in a while.
or the even more dreaded IRS
AUDIT BY MAIL!
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 20, 2010 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
It doesn't take a CPA or IRS agent
to figure out CI sales go right into his pocket without Uncle Sam getting his cut. I’ve been here long enough to know he doesn’t have any real assets such as property.
That’s why I find it a bit moronic that someone who doesn’t report income or payroll tax for the CI ‘calling out’ people who are pissed that they’re taxed before they’ve even made a buck.
A cash business, no paper trail, and over a million potential customers each season? When/if the tax man comes, Mr.Fels will have a new outlook on life. I hope that day never comes, he earned that $ and IMO has a God given right to keep it and buy as much booze as he wants. The IRS will think differently though…
Tea party people want to be left alone and want to not be taxed into bankruptcy. There’s nothing “stupid” about that is there?
I hope you know the tree you are barking up
Because if you are wrong, that is one hell of an accusation to make against someone, let alone in an open forum which he is the proprietor of.
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Listen to the wisdom of James Madison!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
So, coming full-circle
it appears Bluliner’s comment supports Sam’s claim.
Meh
To characterize an entire group of people on one quote, instance, person or what have you is not the right answer either.
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Listen to the wisdom of James Madison!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
No accusation.
He’s said so himself in the past.
Personally, I find nothing wrong with it.
If that is what he has said, very well
I have not seen him say so myself (nor would I expect him too on an open forum), but fair enough.
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Listen to the wisdom of James Madison!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you're misremembering
that quote was by Tea Cup party member “SamFiles”
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 20, 2010 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions
so you come here to get away from "all that bullshit"......
Tea party people want to be left alone and want to not be taxed into bankruptcy. There’s nothing "stupid" about that is there?
…., but are looking to debate?
You’re really coming back strong after being gone for a while.
Ditto for Badgerdano
by Hack on Sep 20, 2010 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Come on boys
Don’t confuse Debating and wanting to be left alone for the same thing. One can be fine with debating their POV, while at the same time wanting to be left alone when they desire.
Can we get back to Hockey?
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Listen to the wisdom of James Madison!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Meaning (ugh I wanted to stay out of this)
Wanting to be left alone, means by Government, left alone by Government in most matters of life.
This does not preclude one wishing to debate why they believe what they do. Some may see as “wanting to be left alone” as a statement of totality, which it is not, it is relative to government. Free association and dialogue is not part of the “wanting to be left alone”.
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Listen to the wisdom of James Madison!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
cue Greta Garbo
We like our people.
by cliffkoroll on Sep 20, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
???
Yeah, I looked her up and have no fucking clue what you mean!
I guess I’m just way behind or out of touch on that one.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Aghhh
If it is the first listed I like it.
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Listen to the wisdom of James Madison!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
You may the type of person I am looking for to solicit input from
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Perhaps
Look at my profile and webpage. Just trying to get ideas (new venture for me). Looking for inputs to improve it in the context of the site.
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Listen to the wisdom of James Madison!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Solicit input? Is that what they call it now?
My Father's name is Jack, and my Mother's name is Daniels...
Noice
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 20, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
you misunderstood my comment
read the whole thing over again with an eye on the title. I wasn’t referrencing “being left alone” and wanting to debate, I was referrencing getting away from “all that bullshit” and wanting to debate.
Both Bluliner and Bobeinhorn could have made much more polite requests to the tune of:
Dear Sam,
I like your blog and enjoy reading your thoughts on hockey, but I find your political statements to be offensive. I don’t want to have to stop reading this great site due to political jabs that I do not agree with. I’m not telling you what you can or can’t write on your blog, but I think you may lose some readership that want to check politics at the door when they come here.
Sincerely,
The Tea Party contingent of Second City Hockey Readership
Instead of statements that will piss people off, such as:
Can you please leave your liberal, uninformed, biased and lemming following politics at the door? Just concentrate on hockey, the one subject that you actually have enough brain cells left to comment on
The last thing I want to read on a sports blog is politics from someone who doesn’t pay taxes.
OR, even better idea, go to the bottom of the webpage and email Sam. Genius!
Ditto for Badgerdano
by Hack on Sep 20, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Got ya
Can we go back to Hockey now?
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Listen to the wisdom of James Madison!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Geez…Just look what was set off by my silly l’il remarks! Seems to me that there are a lot of over sensitive people on this site…they “protest too much.” I especially like the way many tried to define and interpret my words … hilarious stuff! It was like they were tryin’ to understand the lyrics of a Pink Floyd song! Keep up the good work guys…this is entertaining, but hurry up ‘cause the preseason starts tomorrow and I’ll either be too busy to read the great political insights, or become bored with it.
Finkel is Einhorn!
Whew! You threw me off the(re) cliff! I was completely baffled there for a moment since you didn’t start your comment off with “comment” thereby forewarning the reader that a comment was following – which was totally unexpected on, ya know, a blog.
Web surfing’s not a sport, it’s a way of life - you know, a hobby. It’s a way of looking at a wave of information and saying, "Hey blog, let’s party!"!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 21, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I especially like the way many tried to define and interpret my words … hilarious stuff!
Wow. This is the essential problem with Conservatives. So, basically, you’re asking how we can have the gall to interpret something you said about an interpretation of what someone else said. Mind-boggling.
This is the same viewpoint that “wants small government” but wants to tell us who we can marry, who can serve in the military, what women can do to their bodies, and what we can say on TV. But they want small government (unless something makes them uncomfortable)
My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.
Not to mention
the huge amount of money they want to spend to secure a border that cannot be secured. The fact the Israelis and Egyptians together cannot secure the short little border between Egypt and Gaza shows the problems with what the Tea Baggers are asking for.
This isn't exclusive to Conservatives.
This is the essential problem with Conservatives. So, basically, you’re asking how we can have the gall to interpret something you said about an interpretation of what someone else said..
Liberals are just as guilty and IMHO, religions are even worse.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
As Mill said to Disraeli
“It’s not that conservatives tend to be stupid, but rather that stupid people tend to be conservative.”
Think about. it.
Now before you liberals get all fired up like there’s a tax increase or new EPA regulation coming, please understand that Mill is a European liberal (I see Germware nodding) who wouldn’t much care for what passes under that sobriquet in these United States in the 21st century.
We like our people.
What is liberal in Europe
is the same as what is liberal in the U.S. The problem here is our Conservatives do not understand the meaning of the word and use the Rush Limbaugh definition that allows for a person to simultaneously be a liberal and a socialist. In the real world, a socialist is a type of conservative.
Wrong
An American Libertarian is not a person with a consistent liberal politcal philosophy. They are members of a politcal party and they are nothing like European liberals. American Libertarians are part of the Republican Party. They are for economic liberty but against social liberty. A European liberal is more interested in social liberty.
a
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Never mix Politics and Hockey.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 21, 2010 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't speak on the European definitions
of liberal and conservative. But I do know that the Libertarians in America are not a subset of Republicans, not in the least.
A true Libertarian would be insulted to be lumped into being considered a type of Republican. Likewise, a hardcore Republican would be aghast at some of the principles the Libertarians stand for.
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similarly in Europe
“liberals” are considered “centre-right” and more likely to join conservative parties in a coalition.
In France, “liberal” is shorthand for “anglo saxon style” and not part of the European left’s “social model”.
We like our people.
by cliffkoroll on Sep 22, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
While they may not like it, but
actions speak louder than words. For the past 30 years, the Libertarians in this country have voted exclusively for the party that has decimated the Bill of Rights. So, they can claim to be whatever they want, but they are merely a subset of the Republican Party. They vote Republican, they support Republican candidates exclusively and they go along with all the deprivations to social liberty that are supported by the Republican Party.
by stanfordron on Sep 22, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Can't write you a memo,
it happens too often. But, it is all published in their own words in a set of books called U.S. Supreme Court Reports. There are also annotated versions called U.S. Supreme Court Reporters. You can go to them and spend days reading Republican justices telling us why government power is more important than individual rights.
so many questions
how often is the Bill of Rights decimated? (in other words, what is the frequency kenneth?)
after each decimation, is it rebuilt?
are the Bill of Rights currently decimated or undecimated?
We like our people.
How often?
More bites are taken out of it every session. Where does it stand right now? Almost non-existent. They did a number on the First Amendment establishment clause just this last year. Over the past several years, they have severely limited free speech (by individuals while granting more free speech rights to corporations), rights to free assembly have been limited, the 3rd Amendment hasn’t existed in his countries’ reality for over 100 years (so we won’t blame them for that). The Fourth Amendment has been changed from requiring probable cause to only requiring a reasonable suspicion in order to justify a search with or without a warrant. (And, reasonable in whose view? The government’s). The Fifth Amendment is on its last legs. The Seventh Amendment is now only applicable to causes of action that existed in 1790. The Eighth Amendment has been interpreted to a place where it no longer has any practical applicability. No Republican nominated justice in U.S. history has ever recognized the Ninth Amendment as having any relevance to any issue at bar. (You should read that Amendment and then you will see exactly how Republicans feel about the rights of the population in general). In fact, the only Amendment they are interested in protecting is the Second Amendment. But, they only acknowledge half of it. They completely ignore the part that say it is about “well-regulated militias.”
two comments
1. i’d be very interested to hear actual stories from this diverse readersip of firsthand examples of being constricted by the decimation of the Bill of Rights.
2. the 9th and 10th amendments both seem pro-limited government. My understanding is that neither has seen the light of day since the ink dried. So yeah, I can see how an overweening federal government has decimated these portions of the Bill of Rights.
We like our people.
Yes, 9 and 10 are pro-limited government.
But it is not true that they have not seen the light of day. 9 has been cited several times (in privacy cases) but always in minority opinions. Since 9 is pro-limited government, one would expect it to be used by pro-liberty justices. Republican nominees have had many opportunities to enforce some meaning to this amendment but have so far refused.
As far as the readers herein having their rights limited, I do not know if any will have a personal story. But those books I mentioned above certainly have many.
I am Libertarian (Not like it needed to be said)
Does this sound like someone who does not consider or appreciate what the Bill of Rights means?
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Never mix Politics and Hockey.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 22, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually,
it sounds like somebody who is very aware of what the Bill of Rights was supposed to accomplish. However, if you are implying that I am wrong because the writer supports Republican candidates, then I will disagree. While the writer understands the Bill of Rights, there is no indication he/she knows which party agrees with that construction. In fact, that is the construction the liberal justices agree with and the conservative justices oppose.
Take Roe v. Wade for example. How often have we heard the Republicans claim the Constitution cannot prevent the the government from outlawing abortion because the word “abortion” does not exist in the Constitution? The Republicans claim a very narrow interpretation of the Bill of Rights is the only preclusion of action by the government. Anything not specifically and explicitly included in the Bill of Rights is fair game.
The imbiciles that advance that view are the danger the Founding Father’s referred when they claimed:
“One of the fears of having a bill of rights is summed up in Federalist 84, “(I)affirm that Bills of Right, in the sense ans to the extent in which they (anti-Federalists) content for, are not only unnecessary in the proposed Constitution, but would even be dangerous. They would contain various exceptions to powers not granted; and, on this very account would affords a colorable pretext to claim more than was granted”. [From the post you referrenced].
In fact, I believe James Madison referred to these people as idiots.
I can go on and on. They claim gay marriage cannot be Constitutionally protected because it is not listed in the Bill of Rights. They claim the government can tell you what you can or cannot put in your body because the Bill of Rights does not prevent it.
Do you really think the party that is always in favor of limiting people’s rights is the party that would be supported by a real libertarian?
The writer was me
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Never mix Politics and Hockey.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 22, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Reading ALL of this
Plus much much more. I never stop trying to learn as much about that for the Who, the What, they Why, the When and what it means.
Throw in some College stuff, but really, I will only read source documents, and usually stay away from others opinions, they tend to taint what truth is.
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Never mix Politics and Hockey.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 22, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Interesting
I am actually in the process of creating an American History class which relies solely on source material.
If you would like a book recommendation, I have one for you.
Most people do not understand what the official Republican economic policy is because they never state more than soundbites that are a couple of hundred years old and completely out-of-date.
However, their current economic policy was spelled out in a book by Republican economic guru Robert Bork. It is called The Antitrust Paradox. You should read it.
It was actually written in the late 1970s. The most interesting thing regards people who were for Reaganomics and are now for Bushonomics because they think they are the same thing. They are not. The Reaganites lambasted Borks book. The Bushies follow it to a “T.”
I am familiar with Bork's Jurisprudence
Not his economics. He was to Constructionalist, the intent and meaning, though when with other aspects of the document or Constitution was understood to mean another.
If you like Source Documents, you may like the next post I am working on and hope to post in 1-2 days, on how [basics] John Locke (Two Treatises of a Civil Government) and Charles de Secondant de Baron Montesquieu (Spirit of Laws) philosophies influenced many [not all] of the Founders.
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Never mix Politics and Hockey.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 22, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Let me know where/when you post it.
I’d like to read it. Have you ever read Farrand’s collection of notes from the constitutional convention?
That is part of
“The Federal Journal of the Convention of 1787”, well at least in some places.
That along with Elliot’s, Rufus King, Patterson Madison, McHenry, Yates, Hamilton, and Pierce are the best sources for what actually transpired during the convention of 1787. I read all in parallel to try to get the best picture of what is going on, debated, and feelings for and against aspects of what is being considered.
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Never mix Politics and Hockey.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 22, 2010 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe the Federal Journal
is only Volume I of Farrand’s. The whole work is a four volume set (three volumes of notes gathered by Farrand and a fouth volume that was put together circa 1900 of additional notes that were found during the course of the 19th Century).
The person I found most fascinating was George Washington. He was not a delegate and was not at the meetings so people did not think that he was important. They were wrong. Almost every day after the convention, several delegates would join Washington at his hotel for dinner and get his opinion on everything that transpired. I think those notes are in Volume III.
Then I have only read parts of it.
The Convention part for sure, as for correspondence of others I may have read, I have read all the correspondence of the delegates during the weeks leading through and some time afterward through other sources/links. Some I remember of note is Madison jr – Madsion Sr., to/from TJ, and GW adhered to the strict rule of silence, in his did not once (I can recall) discussed the proceedings themselves.
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Never mix Politics and Hockey.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 22, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I have directly read this piece by name, just the contexts of its being.
I have always been more concerned with the material than what it is part of.
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Never mix Politics and Hockey.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 22, 2010 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
this
I can go on and on.
I believe.
We like our people.
by cliffkoroll on Sep 22, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Out of this entire post, really the only thing that bugged me is
The stereotyping, this swings both ways. To often name calling and accusations are the main thrust, vice the merits of the topic, it is just political venom.
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Never mix Politics and Hockey.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 21, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd
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by chiblackhawks on Sep 21, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
How did you get those links in your sig?
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Never mix Politics and Hockey.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 21, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I added the hyperlink code
<$a href=“link.html”$>Words to be linked<$/a>
minus the dollar signs.
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by chiblackhawks on Sep 21, 2010 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank You
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Never mix Politics and Hockey.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 21, 2010 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
haha well done
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by chiblackhawks on Sep 21, 2010 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
;-)
That is a more appropriate setting I think.
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Never mix Politics and Hockey.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 21, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Another rec
My problem with politics today is that most people seem to ascribe complete good intentions to their own side and complete bad intention to the other. Democrats want what’s best for the country. Republicans want what’s best for the country. We just disagree on the methods, but we all want the same aims. If we could just accept that no one wants to kill all the poor or to put middle america’s grannies in front of a firing squad, we’d all be a lot better off.
a very good point
but actually – as far as the elected politicians go – there is also a very large measure of both sides being utterly dishonest/criminal too.
Confusion will be my epitaph.
huh?
OK, I think I got it now…
So basically you are interpreting something I said about an interpretation of what someone else said, that I interpreted from what I originally said about something I interpreted from what I read somewhere…right? Send me a roadmap.
First…I ‘commented’ on the political statement (not interpreted)
Second…how you can jump (read interpret) to the conclusions you have must be “an essential problem with progressives.” (How does it feel?)
Third…because I don’t care for politics to be discussed on my favorite Hawks site, you basically are intolerant of my intolerance…(again, how does it feel?)
Fourth…You have somehow extrapolated from my short post, all my positions on marriage, military policies, abortion, and censorship….Way to go Karnack!!!
If you respond to this, which you will, please include tomorrows lotto numbers
Palomino.
Seriously, I like a good politics debate as much as the next person, but this one is starting to get unfriendly.
by Katherine215 on Sep 22, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
you have an interesting definition of "starting to" Katherine
but yes, i concur.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Sep 22, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Congree
Palo-fucking-mino
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Never mix Politics and Hockey.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 22, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
This conversation is hilarious
And I think you’re GREATLY overestimating the sales of the CI.
Maybe the tea party movement has some good ideas (and that’s a big maybe) but they’re a closed-minded, ignorant, intolerant group who should under no circumstances be allowed to take any prominent role in the U.S. government, especially with someone like Christine O’Donnell as one of the poster politicians for the movement.
two thoughts
1. But imagine how sales will take off with the new CI subscription card that I’ve heard is in the works?
2. Maybe the tea party movement has liberals have some good ideas (and that’s a big maybe) but they’re a closed-minded, ignorant, intolerant Pollyannaish group who should under no circumstances be allowed to take any prominent role in the U.S. government, especially with someone like Christine O’Donnell Charlie Rangel as one of the poster politicians for the movement.
Nothing like healthy give-and-take.
We like our people.
Ha Ha
I move that we let the two above arguments stand as equals [but one being more equal than the other] as at least one of the two should represent most on here, and move on to more talk about the Hawks.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Subscription card?
I have not heard of that… do tell.
If the tea-baggers take over, will card carrying members be persecuted? (McCarthyism?)
You can pry my card from my cold dead fingers!
My Father's name is Jack, and my Mother's name is Daniels...
oh yeah
nothing official, but I’ve noticed a huge outpouring of interest in comments I’ve made.
I expect to hear something from the alcoholics any time on this…
…unless, for some reason, they don’t like the huge piles of cash that await.
We like our people.
Too bad it'll never happen
It’s not like Sam would do anything that would leave a paper trail for the IRS by taking credit card orders for the CI over the internet.
Will. Never. Happen.
Web surfing’s not a sport, it’s a way of life - you know, a hobby. It’s a way of looking at a wave of information and saying, "Hey blog, let’s party!"!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 20, 2010 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Tea party
Are flat out racists! Scary backwoods bunch! And the amount of people on this board offended by this article, is about 4. Probably referred to buff as the “colored one”. Sorry if I offended those who enjoy their leaders to be more stupid then them. Now let’s play some hoakay
by Buttfudge on Sep 21, 2010 4:24 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Wow.
You come here to a hockey blog and get so irate over about four words of copy that you accuse someone baselessly of tax evasion?
… Okay!
Just so you know, several of the regulars here are lawyers or in the legal profession. Many of us know exactly what actual tax evasion can and does entail. Your silly finger-pointing just makes us laugh harder. You should stop before one of us busts a rib or something.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Sep 20, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Ok
So if I get this right; small businesses are not required to report any cash income or what they paid employees b/c they have a blog & a game program? Ya, that’ll go over well in court.
I’ll call you when I need a lawyer and have some sick desire to have my wages garnished & property seized.
dude. I don't think spoke is saying that people shouldn't pay taxes,
and I doubt it’s really an argumtent about what holds up in court. Some people are just frustrated by the escalation from a political comment to an accusation to this general debate.
I’m picturing Anchorman – “that really got out of hand fast…I mean, Brick killed a guy”
by blackhawkeyes on Sep 20, 2010 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
That's patently ridiculous
To suggest I’m swindling anybody is borderline insulting. I pay taxes just like everyone else, in fact I have to do so four times a year. To suggest that Tea Partiers “want to be left alone” is also silly. They want all the services without paying for it.
Feel free to debate any political, or any other point you want. But don’t come in here and ever claim to be some expert on my life. You don’t know anything about it, and quite frankly, I hope you never do.
www.secondcityhockey.com
by SamFels on Sep 20, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
So, if it's untrue...was that libel?
by Hi, I'm Bob LeDonne on Sep 20, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
No, it means the commenter is on crack or
“blew lines”
Web surfing’s not a sport, it’s a way of life - you know, a hobby. It’s a way of looking at a wave of information and saying, "Hey blog, let’s party!"!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 20, 2010 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions
BA ZING!
I needed a laugh and damn it if CNS didn’t deliver.
My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.
No.
Opinions are not and will never be libel.
It’s clear that the OP was an asshole, but being an asshole has never been illegal.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Sep 20, 2010 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
claiming that someone is evading income tax, without that claim being true?
how is that not libel?
Just asking, if you are in fact, a lawyer.
Ditto for Badgerdano
Wiki wiki, wakka wakka
Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, slander (for transitory statements), and libel (for written, broadcast, or otherwise published words)—is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image. It is usually a requirement that this claim be false and that the publication is communicated to someone other than the person defamed (the claimant).1
by Hi, I'm Bob LeDonne on Sep 20, 2010 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Quote from the Bluliner
It doesn’t take a CPA or IRS agent
to figure out CI sales go right into his pocket without Uncle Sam getting his cut. I’ve been here long enough to know he doesn’t have any real assets such as property.
That’s why I find it a bit moronic that someone who doesn’t report income or payroll tax for the CI ‘calling out’ people who are pissed that they’re taxed before they’ve even made a buck.
A cash business, no paper trail, and over a million potential customers each season? When/if the tax man comes, Mr.Fels will have a new outlook on life. I hope that day never comes, he earned that $ and IMO has a God given right to keep it and buy as much booze as he wants. The IRS will think differently though…
Tea party people want to be left alone and want to not be taxed into bankruptcy. There’s nothing "stupid" about that is there?
by Bluliner on Sep 20, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
by Hi, I'm Bob LeDonne on Sep 20, 2010 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the Rhenquist Court
did away with the fact/opinion distinction in federal libel law (but it may still exist in Illinois law).
by stanfordron on Sep 21, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Super Bears, Super Rec!
Super Bears, Super Rec!
I don’t know why I added the bears part, they’ve got me all excited with this 2 and 0 start.
Ditto for Badgerdano
Crazy how much better the team is
With the addition of Peppers and the return of Urlacher. Now if only we can get Cutler some protection.
yeah, I'm definitely not chugging the koolaid yet,
they still can’t run the football, but If they beat the packers and the giants in the next two weeks…..bottoms up.
Ditto for Badgerdano
sorry, but the packers aren't detroit or dallas...
by blackhawkeyes on Sep 20, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
you must have missed
the “if” in that statement.
I’m not saying the bears are going to win, but let’s not get too puffy-chested over a drubbing of the big bad buffalo bills.
Ditto for Badgerdano
If they beat one of the two I'll be downing that Bears koolaid like Jamison made it!
My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.
and another thing
“the packers aren’t dallas”
I think the packers are better than Dallas, but there are alot of similarities between the Cowboys and the Pack.
-good 3-4 defense with some solid pass rushers
-good quarterback that can rack up some yards
-an inability to run the football through 2 weeks
Ditto for Badgerdano
yeah, I can see the similarities,
but I think Rogers is a much better/more consistent QB than Romo. You’re right though, losing our 1000 yard rusher hurts a lot! Rogers shouldn’t lead the team in ypc.
by blackhawkeyes on Sep 20, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember that game.
Last game of the season? Didn’t we need all those points to qualify for a playoff spot on a tie breaker?
by stanfordron on Sep 21, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
nah
you’re thinking of 1979. Bears needed a win plus Tampa loss. Tampa was playing in a deluge and scratched out a 3-0 win over KC.
But the Bears’ could also have gotten a wild card spot if they won, Washington lost to Dallas, and the Bears overcame a 35 point differential.
The Bears blew the Carinals away 42-6, and, in the late game, Dallas scored two late touchdowns to beat Washington 35-34.
Best Bear fan moment of my life up to that point.
We like our people.
by cliffkoroll on Sep 21, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions
and how much better they are with-out
Chris Williams…….Mr Fragilie
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
Chris Williams may be off to a rough start
but the Bears certainly aren’t better without him. You can’t tell me that you want Omiyale on the left and Schaffer on the right for the rest of the year. It worked out ok yesterday, but the sample size there leaves a lot to be desired.
Ditto for Badgerdano
Yes I can tell you Williams was a turn style on Sunday, the reason he blew a hammy .
I felt Frank o who was terrible as guard played much better as a left tackle
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
by ccm on Sep 21, 2010 9:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I think that's revisionist history
When Williams was in, Dallas was bringing the house, bringing 5 and 6 guys almost every play. When WIlliams went out, Martz went to the quick hitting pass plays with 3 step drops, and then Dallas backed off a bit. Both Omiyale and Williams got beat on the outside by Ware and others.
Omiyale filled in admirably, and I’m certainly not absolving Williams of being a turnstyle for 2 series, but the Omiyale-Schaffer combo is not some magic piece that made the O-line gel.
Ditto for Badgerdano
by Hack on Sep 21, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm definitely not sold on Williams
but you’re absolutely correct they changed the game plan to help the line as opposed to the line suddenly getting better.
by Katherine215 on Sep 21, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
We will have to agree to disagree
They want all the services without paying for it.
You could not be more wrong. I am not going to go into, but if I did not earn I do not want, and I most certainly do no want something you earned to go into my pocket. I desire only the basic services (Police, Fire, Defense, Law etc..). I want to be able to live my life the way I choose and do what with my family and property as I want, without worrying, provided I do not infringe on another’s to do the same.
To Quote you Sam
don’t come in here and ever claim to be some expert on my life
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Never mix Politics and Hockey.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 21, 2010 5:29 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Stick to hockey TMFF
remember? ;)
Web surfing’s not a sport, it’s a way of life - you know, a hobby. It’s a way of looking at a wave of information and saying, "Hey blog, let’s party!"!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 21, 2010 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions
But you're not an island.
being a part of society means that what you want isn’t the only consideration.
by Katherine215 on Sep 21, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Your entire premise/paradigm is wrong.
You will be controlled. As part of a large society, it is inevitable. The only question is whether you want to be controlled by elected officials who answer (at least somewhat) to voters or whether you want to be controlled by the landed gentry (the rich people) who answer solely to their own love of hoarding assets.
by stanfordron on Sep 21, 2010 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
well
there’s your inspirational thought for the day.
We like our people.
by cliffkoroll on Sep 21, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
No, the opposite.
But, the only effective resistance is by controlling the governement that controls the producers. The Tea Party plan, to give free reign to the rich people, is actually a complete surrender.
Having the rule of Law is different to be controlled in life, but that is neither here nor there.
But I’m done with this here. I just want to talk hockey here, seriously. I really do not mind discussing this stuff in great detail, but I really do come here because it is fun, not for political arguments.
I have another place I go to debate or just discuss some of the ideals in question here. If you really want to just look me up.
I’ll just end my last comment on this with “a”. Lets talk Hockey
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Never mix Politics and Hockey.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 21, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
What. the fuck. ??????
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Sep 20, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Made a similar comment… and before I’d even scrolled down this far. This thread’s still going on, huh?
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
i was running through airports and crossing time zones
i got to the party late and this was all my shelled-shocked brain could manage to spew out. meh.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Sep 21, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Somebody differs with your political views and you threaten him with the IRS?
Thank you for demonstrating how “open minded” the tea-baggers are.
Want to find something moronic? – Try the mirror.
My Father's name is Jack, and my Mother's name is Daniels...
by Joe Banks on Sep 20, 2010 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
yeah Greece does that to the Max
and look they’re about to default on Gov loans. If I remember right the greek government on receives 40% of what they’re suppose too. Taxes are important if they’re done correctly. Even the US which is a capitalistic country with a hard social face needs it tax money, just look at the Dan Ryan, can someone say mismanaged.
This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.
this is true
Greece is a joke, but all of Europe (maybe not the Swiss) is worse than the US.
We like our people.
Which is why
our recovery isn’t going as fast as anyone would like. In the modern global economy, there’s only so much a single country can do — even one with a massive economy like ours — while others are still languishing.
I remember a line on West Wing about the economy being complex and having lots of different levers and the trick was to push just right on each of them at once — and how hard that was.
Our Cup.
Erm
I’m not sure what the sale of an Olympic Gold Medal has to do with extreme libertarianism/lower taxes. Perhaps you could enlighten me?
In my opinion,
the connection is the more liberals that get elected, the less likely a medal winner will have to sell his medal.
it isn't Wells whois selling it
he sold it a while ago – it is his purchaser now selling.
Wells never played in the NHL and a few years back came down with a rather nasty chronic medical condition – he sold the medal back then.
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I love how everything that's wrong with the economy now
Is the fault of Obama and the Democrats. Never mind the 8 years of rule by the Republican party prior to Obama’s election in 08. This were perfect before 08. Then BAM! Recession! All because of those darn, pesky Democrats!
Maybe that hockey player is just bad with his money.
by Ban on Sep 20, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ooh, I have another idea!
He retired because of back problems. Maybe if they’d had socialised health care (the bane of the free world, apart from, uh, every country that isn’t the U.S.), he wouldn’t’ve spent all his money on treatment for it, & hence wouldn’t have to sell his medal.
your parenthetical
is perfect (and I’m a quasi-Republican.)
Jeeves would say: rem acu tetigisti.
We like our people.
No kidding
Those Canadian hockey players look miserable being taken care of.
My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.
Good points Ban
Here’s the way I see it. Bush Sr. never should have started the first Iraq War, he screwed Clinton. Clinton, in turn, never should have turned his back on the region and pretended it wasn’t there, thereby screwing Bush Jr. W was too focused on the region, and ignored the domestic problems that were looming, thereby screwing Obama. Obama is now screwed in the mid-east and at home, and is getting the blame for everything.
My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.
The Bush administration did not ignore domestic problems
Their policies caused them.
by stanfordron on Sep 21, 2010 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Sweet Christ.
What. The. Fuck. is happening? What are we talking about here! What’s going on?? LOUD NOISES!!!
So many comments. So little… anything I give a fuck about.
Come on fellas!!! We’re all here to HAVE FUN!!!!!!!!!!
Bob Dole for fucking mayor ya crazy bastards!!!!!
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
a
Fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Blackhawks!
Fan of the not 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Isles!
TMFF is a Genius. 'Nuff said.
by burpchelischili on Sep 21, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Never mix Politics and Hockey.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 21, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Reading between the lines
the hundreds of other submitted questions so far weren’t up to snuff. Harumph.
Allow me to resubmit:
How about thae long awaited, much talked about, CI subscription card?
Wait! Don’t answer yet. Consider first the uncanny resemblence of such an intitative, from your perspective, to the veritable printing of money. Consider also concerns expressed above about unelightened UC meatheads. We’re talking about bringng the Gospel to the benighted- God’s work, if you think about it. What’s so wrong with a couple extra coins in your pockets and a month shaved off purgatory?.
We like our people.
ooh, I know sam's answer to that! pick me! Pick me!
too much work, and you don’t want to leave the IRS a paper trail.
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by chiblackhawks on Sep 20, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Egads.
I was hoping to read comments about Turco kicking ass and taking names next year. Instead I got political mud-flinging and tax incrimination.
Second City Hockey: come for the hockey banter, stay for the libel.
by PDiggy on Sep 20, 2010 6:00 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
And which Fail is this meant to be with?
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
so this quote about Scott taking over Buff's role made me laugh...
Scott was quick to say he won’t be able to replace all of Byfulglien’s skills, but did say “Big Buff” had a bit of good news for him.
“It’s funny; I was skating with him this summer, telling him: ’They’re saying I’m going to be the next Byfuglien,’” Scott said. “He said, ‘Well that’s good for you. You only have to get in one fight this year.’”
here’s the source if anyone wants to see it: linky
The Whale return to CT
Kinda, the former NHL Hartford Whale owner is buying the Hartford Wolfpack (AHL, NYR affiliate), and midseason will change the name to the Connecticut Whale (not Whalers). http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news;_ylt=AhJy13oAMoQEsJAURxWr.LR7vLYF?slug=ap-hartfordhockey
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 6:42 PM CDT reply actions
2nd Linky
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Midseason? This strikes me as not a good plan.
Holy crap, any reputable branding/imaging consultant would throw a shit fit. For good reason.
[Also, who names a team ‘the Whale’? It’s Hartford, they’re the Whalers. The whale is something that gets harpooned in this scenario, I don’t understand why you’d call your team that.]
by spokeinthebandwagon on Sep 20, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
The "Whalers" is ownded by the city for an NHL team.
I do not know if they could use the name “Whalers” or if they did, what they would have to do for it.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow that's lame.
Is it me, or should a team never have a name that represents a singular thing? The Whale? Why not The Bear? Or The Eagle? A team is a freaking group, come on!
Ahh, here we go. This is the first artile I saw from PD
Much gooder “Relativley”.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
I would think that the name is owned by the team (which in our case would be Chicago Blackhawks Hockey Team, Inc.). There may be reversion rights to the NHL as part of the franchise agreement (but not sure about that). But I doubt that the city has any ownership interest in the name.
Our Cup.
Remember that Cleveland owned the name "Browns" when Arty boy moved them to Baltimore to become the Ravens.
That is why the name changed, the city sued and kept the name “Browns”. Living in CT, I am fairly certain, but not 100%, Hartford has a similar claim to the name “Whalers”.
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Never mix Politics and Hockey.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 21, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought
the reason Cleveland was able to keep the name was because of a deal they reached with the NFL (to avoid a lawsuit against the NFL) in which they were also promised the next expansion franchise (which it appears they are still awaiting while a minor league team represents their city).
Yes,
Cleveland did sue, but a settlement was reached, in which Cleveland retained the rights to the name. I know they are not the only city to do this (except Hartford maybe), I just can not remember who else, and have little motivation to look.
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Never mix Politics and Hockey.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 21, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I do not think "retained" is the right word.
I think “granted” is more accurate.
Here is a quasi answer to the "Whalers"
This article is from last October
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 21, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I think they should just go with
the Connecticut “Clams”
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 20, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I should add
I’d like to see Chi grow an avatar playoff beard for THAT team.
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 20, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I always thought that's what the bottom of the scrubber was anyways.
My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.
are these clams
of the bearded variety?
by BigCSouthside on Sep 20, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Does that mean they'll
be bearded clams in the playoffs?
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
All three of these fantastic comments
have the same timestamp. I’m sure one just quickly followed another, but I like to imagine all three of them happending simultaneously, to the milisecond.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
All of our minds
are in the same gutter. I posted my comment about 10 seconds after BigC.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Living in SE CT,
Perhaps “Clams” is not something you want named after the great taxing state of Connecticut. “Grotopotomi” is not just a name, it is a fact!
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Heut hater haters have to get over it ..
I realize after posting here for the last so many months that some people have a delicate Victorian sensibility when it comes to having negative opinions of players, specifically Huet, but lets please stop pretending we don’t understand why the fans turned on him, or that only the fans that don’t understand the game turned on him, or that it makes a person more reasonable and dignified if they didn’t turn on him. It’s not unfortunate, tragic, or sad – the guy just didn’t preform. No Unsolved Mystery, no federal case, no big deal. Some people take it more viscerally when a player on their favorite team does poorly. I know I like to watch a game screaming at the television set while most of you probably watch it smoking fine tabacco in a pipe and quietly demurring every time the Hawks score a goal. It’s just being a different kind of fan. We say Huet should have toughened up, I think everybody who gets miffed when a player gets bashed needs to toughen up.
by Billy Charlesbois on Sep 20, 2010 7:30 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
you get a rec
for getting up in arms about a topic worth getting up in arms about, because at least Sam spent more than four words on the goalie thing.
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by chiblackhawks on Sep 20, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Chicago can be a rough city to play for
Chicago fans can turn on a dime on a player, and that player is in a lose-lose situation. It does not matter how good you are, when you are in that position (Like Huet was), most fans will only remember and talk about the bad. Eventually that is going to wear out a player in mind. And when you do not believe in yourself, everything else follows until crash.
I mean come on, if a Solid hearted soul, with a good tempered and positive outlook like Milton Bradley can’t handle the heat, How could Huet?
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions
rec'd
for
“delicate Victorian sensibilities”
“quietly demurring”
and view expressed, just so long as “turning on him”, as a general principle, stops short of booing at the UC.
We like our people.
Finally.
while most of you probably watch it smoking fine tabacco in a pipe and quietly demurring every time the Hawks score a goal.
Somebody who understands the way I watch hockey.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
Question for the Alchies-- or any other alchies who have an opinion.
If you were to be frozen in a block of ice tomorrow and (ironically) defrosted in December somewhere in an island in the Pacific where you have no access to standings or team statistics but only access to a single individual statistic, what stat would you look at to gauge how our Hawks are doing?
by StillLostinNC on Sep 20, 2010 7:54 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
is it cheating if i say
the ratio of GF/G over GA/G?
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by chiblackhawks on Sep 20, 2010 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
D2K +/-
He spends half the game on the ice, on the PP and PK. The higher his plus rating is, the higher he goal differential in the Hawks favor will be.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
That's my pick too.
Although Turco’s GAA would be important too.
Another interesting one that would compliment one of our most commonly asked preseason questions would be Bolland’s TOI.
by StillLostinNC on Sep 20, 2010 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
THIS IS A GREAT QUESTION!
/all caps have been known to penetrate the miasma in which the alcoholics live and breathe
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Shot differential
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won/lost record
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by krome on Sep 21, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Great question.
Originally thought it would have to do specifically with booze (for the title).
My initial thought was Turco’s GAA, but I really like what TMFF said about D2K =/- too. So yeah, I guess I agree with TMFF and StillLostinNC.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
My Questions
1. Which of our dearly departed players from last year’s team will have the best year in their new home? My bet – Versteeg
2. On the flipside, which one of our newly acquired players via FA or trade will have the greatest impact on the Hawks?
Bonus Question: What will Buff’s +/- be as a D-man? I’m feeling generous – I’ll give him a -15.
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
Here is my guessing
1. Steeger or Laddy
2. IDK, but I’m thinking Marty might have the most obvious simply because he is in net. Maybe Scott on the 3rd pairing, help limit ice time on the top two pairings, so they are not skating on noodle legs in April. I think that is a tough one.
BQ. With Notlanta, yeah Buff is +/- -20 – -30.
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by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 20, 2010 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Some more questions
1. Versteeg ‘should’, but I’m going to say Ladd.
2. Stalberg may become a big surprise much like Brouwer was last season. It really depends on who, of the newbies, gets the most top-6 & PP time and what the lines look like after 10-15 games. More specifically, does Sharp move to wing or not if things do not go so well.
Bonus: I’ll say -17…but he’ll get trumped by Havlat in Minny but score more on the PP than Barker.
Minnesota should be a lot better this year with the addtions of Madden and Cullen.
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1. Versteeg will start out the fastest of the bunch but will fade after being exposed to the “radiation poisoning” called the Toronto media. My bets are on Ladd, who may see significant ice-time alongside Evander Kane and Bryan Little.
2. Easy. Turco. Just his composure and experience will help this young team and not to mention his puck-handling skills that should really help the ’Hawks transition game.
BQ: -10 in October and back to forward in November. Then traded by the deadline.
2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.
The difference in the treatment of Huet and Turco.
From the first game of pre-season on Cristobal Huet was the target of every ‘Hawks fan criticism everytime things didn’t go well. It wasn’t so much his salary as it was his perfomance, or a lack therof, that caused most of the uproar. From Rodibas to Columbus there were too many games in which Huet was “hard to hit”.
With that said, he never seemed to start with a glimpse of a chance in most fans mind. All you have to do is go back to the post-game wrap-up in the second game of the season where Niemi recorded his first shutout to see that Huet had plenty of haters already against him. The biggest problem? It was general consensus that if the ‘Hawks didn’t succeed in winning the Stanely Cup that it was Huet’s fault, something that I just don’t feel this season.
Whether it’s Turco’s accomplishment’s or whatever it just seems that he has a longer “fan leash” than Huet ever had maybe even more than Niemi. Why? Maybe it’s finally clicked into the fans and mainstream media that you don’t need an all-star netminder to win the Stanley Cup and that it’s the overall performance of the team that ultimately decides the outcome of games. Maybe it’s the pressure released from this franchise after capturing the Stanley Cup and has most fans in “bonus” mode.
I just don’t see Turco getting booed or harrassed at the UC like Huet ever did. Maybe his salary at $1.3 milllion might be a reason, but I don’t think so. Rather that he’s not in to come here to be the saviour like Huet was to replace a massively ineffective Khabibulin and guide the ‘Hawks to the Cup, but just to solidify a position that wasn’t the most important piece in winning the Stanley Cup.
2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.
I'm in agreement, I think Turco will be saved from the Huate just because of money
Obviously Huet was overpaid (I know…we may have needed to pay in order to kickstart the hawks and get free agents to come to chicago), and that didn’t sit well when he didn’t perform right when he arrived. Plus, it was right at the end of the Khabby era, which was a similar situation.
So basically we have several years of overpaying goalies, and here comes Turco willing to take a pay cut to backstop the Hawks. I think it’s safe to assume that Turco saved the Hawks a lot of headaches by not only signing here, but signing for a bargain price. Plus the guy seems great in the locker room…he’ll be fun guy for sound bites, and he should be able to get the fans on his side like Huet or Khabby never could.
by blackhawkeyes on Sep 20, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, Huet let himself get beat up in the media and public opinion
by “playing nice” and not commenting on the situation. Turco is much more outspoken and won’t be such an easy target.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 20, 2010 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Huet was a professional about it
He could have easliy created a distraction in the play-offs. Let be honest he was a good goalie who would have moments when the goals came in bunches. He wasn’t worth the money in the goal, but still he is a class act
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
The Perfect Storm
1) He didn’t steal Khabby’s no.1 spot in 2008-2009 as intended
2) He was paid 5.6+ million dollars a year for 4 years to do this.
3) While he may be a nice and classy guy, he was kind of aloof (blame language, blame personality, whatever) and so he made himself an outlier to the fans in terms of being ‘accessible’.
4) As others have said, Turco was willing to be paid less than a quarter of what Huet makes with way more talent. And he’s personable and affable. Fans have made an immediate connection with him.
On that note
There were still some asshats that booed Soupy at Training Camp. I swear, my blood pressure spiked when I heard it.
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
Some people just don't understand the value of Soupy.
the only defense man I have ever seen that can get a puck out of our zone and deep into the opponents zone in a matter of seconds…..a huge factor in the low number of shots allowed. Who else, playing today can duplicate his skill set?
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
"The only defense man..............."
While Campbell might do it more often, I’d say Dunc is capable of this feat. What about Drew Doughty, Mike Green?
Ditto for Badgerdano
Dunc is
and if ccm was talking about just dmen on the Hawks, his word choice wasn’t the best
Ditto for Badgerdano
in the league.....
…..Dunc very good …not as effective on the rush as Soupy. Just my opinion which means didly squat
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
is it my turn to state the obvious? ;)
I just meant that Campbell and Keith are the only 2 that can do it because I’m a Blackhawks homer.
by blackhawkeyes on Sep 20, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
chev...I hate to bring this up,
but don’t you know it’s passe to take a picture with the cup? I’d like to thank Rick Morrissey for showing me the light!
by blackhawkeyes on Sep 20, 2010 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I never was part of the "in crowd"
So Morrissey can bite me. Besides, I am going to change my avatar once the season starts – don’t want to jinx anything too early.
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
Sure I'll take on the Hockey Gods
I mean, if an open letter to the Hockey Gods doesn’t work, what will?
Perhaps you should’ve left milk and cookies for those hockey gods, gallagher, oh wait, that’s hockey Santa.
Ditto for Badgerdano
Its our damn cup
until someone else takes it, I say keep the avatar
by BigCSouthside on Sep 20, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe I'll Rotate
Because dammit, I have an actual Chevrier photo I’m gonna use someday, just to confuse people.
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
God, I read that piece.
What a fucking moron. First, to rip on all the other sportswriters in town and hold yourself as the lone paragon of virtue. Second, to specifically rip on Telander, who (while not without his faults) is so far and away better than Morrissey that Morrissey shouldn’t be allowed in the same fucking room. Third, to confuse journalistic independence regarding a team with an understanding of how cool the Cup itself is.
Thank you for calling this jackass out!
Our Cup.
Right
Just like taking a picture in front of Niagara Falls.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
I'm one of those who was all over Huet from the get go.
But, it was not because of the amount of money. It was because I had just watched him come off a terrible playoff series for Washington and I thought he was an awful goaltender.
by stanfordron on Sep 21, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I hope you're right.
But I’ve learned never to underestimate the stupidity of the mass public.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
Which Hawk would you pick to win
a sauerkraut eating contest?
I’ll say John Scott in a walk with Bolland putting up surprising fight. I bet Bolly would keep eating eat out of spite until he puked all over Scott and then laugh about it.
Hossa
He does own a pierogi factory after all.
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
skille. he's frrom wisconsin, and if there's anything I've learned from all of my family there, they love cheese, beer , and kraut.
by blackhawkeyes on Sep 20, 2010 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I was surprised to learn he is only 23
drafted when he was 17…….would love to see him get some steady time up with the big boys and settle into his game
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
Beach.
I bet that fucker could throw down. Or maybe some total sleeper like Hammer. It’s not always the biggest man.
It's the Chicago Blackhawks man...
The guy is the red sweater is looking at him like "WTF!!!????...you killed him!!!!!!!!"
"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson
by ccm on Sep 20, 2010 9:33 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
jesus christ
Lurch plays for the Hawks! he looks like he could eat Potulny and still be hungry
by BigCSouthside on Sep 20, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Does that mean Q can summon him by having a gong sounded?
My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.
it does scream
madcap Hollywood brainchild, ya know. some Mighty Ducks XXII or something.
We like our people.
this needs a caption contest
“IM BIGGER THAN YOU, IM HIGHER UP ON THE FOOD CHAIN!”
by BigCSouthside on Sep 20, 2010 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Gandalf, Meet Frodo
I nearly spit pop on my computer screen when I uploaded this photo when I got home.
"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST
haha
watching Scott fight is hilarious, it’s like when you hold your little brother back by the head and hes swinging away then you pop him one
by BigCSouthside on Sep 20, 2010 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Too funny you mentioned LOTR
The first thing that popped into my head was “Requiem for a Tower” when I saw ccm’s photo.
BTW ccm, do you have a link to the full-sized image?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 20, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
all I got
http://i.dailyherald.com/stories/316/normal/316280.jpg. just remove the period at the end
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So you want to become Jedi, hmm? Help you I can...
My Father's name is Jack, and my Mother's name is Daniels...
I was thinking the other day
that it would’ve been funny if Kane and Scott had staged a fight during one of the training camp scrimages. It’d be fun to see them act like they are seriously going to fight, just to see what the coaches and other players would do.
Ditto for Badgerdano
I just had this visual
Kane ducking and running through Scott’s legs to get away from him with some looney toons music playing.
All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity. - Gordie Howe
I was thinking the Benny Hill music
My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.
That reminds me of this
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 21, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I keep seeing Kane attacking Scotts leg
Probably trying to take a bite or something. Reminds me of my neighbors dog that I want to boot across the yard
I was in an adult league a few years ago
and some little guy was trying desperately to fight me for no good reason. I’m 6’3 and I’m guessing he was around 5’9. It wasn’t a staged fight but I’m told it was pretty funny watching me hold him at arms length with one hand as the ref was trying to stop his flailing arms.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
If you notice the position of that skate
Lurch needed every extra inch of his height to avoid losing a few elsewhere.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 20, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Perspective
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 20, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Hi, my name's John
and this is my wittle buddy, isn’t he adorable!
by BigCSouthside on Sep 20, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, you're in Oz, you're amongst the little people now
We represent, the Lollipop Guild!
My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.
Stole my thunder!
It took forever to find a freaking photo of Richard Kiel in The Longest Yard anywhere on the internetz. That was gonna be my caption because I really don’t care how good or bad Scott is – I just want to see him clothesline a guy once so we can start calling him “Sampson.”
I think I broke his fucking neck!
Here’s my alt Richard Kiel caption then (would work especially well if that was Sharp laying on the ice)
Mr. Larson: That’s two thus far, Shooter.
Shooter: Oh, you can count. Good for you.
Mr. Larson: And YOU can count on ME waiting for YOU in the parking lot.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 20, 2010 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
is there some depth perception wackiness going on?
or is Potulny shorter than Kane?
Go jump in Toews Lake.
Aubrey: old German for king of the elves. Huff: English for...huff.
I finally know who I am! I am Bane! I break people!
My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.
If a John Scott falls in the forest
but there is no one there to hear it, did it really make a sound?
If at first you don't succeed...
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 20, 2010 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
CNS likes to keep tabs on me...
He’s out here fighting the good fight, monitoring the comment sections of hockey blogs, calling people out, shining a light on the double-posters and upholding truth, justice and the American Way. It’s a small job but someone HAS to take the time and do it. Otherwise, it just wouldn’t get done and then where would we be? I’ll tell you: Chaos. That’s where. And no one wants to live in a lawless society where people are free to go back to unfunny posts from last week and rob their OWN ideas. That would just lead to a break down in the fabric of everything we hold dear as a community.
Get over yourself, buddy.
don't be like that
we all know the feeling of having our genius ignored here.
i personally have posted the 8 most funny and insightful comments in the history of this blog, and not even a nibble.
pearls before swine.
We like our people.
i reminded myself
on the subject of unrecognized genius, that Matt Groening used to be REALLY funny.
We like our people.
I recognized the genius of the posts ...
but I was so bitterly angry and jealous that god choose you to be the best poster, rather than I, that I could think of nothing but to destory you.
I AM THE PATRON SAINT OF MEDIOCRITY!!!
by Billy Charlesbois on Sep 21, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I have to rec this
just because i fucking love that movie
by BigCSouthside on Sep 21, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
FYI, I’ve seen that joke 3 or 4 times since the Hawks signed Scott. It wasn’t funny the first time someone posted and it still isn’t. I think maybe it’s the delivery or timing. Possibly if someone posts it again it’ll be HILARIOUS! Maybe try one more time with different inflection?
We’ll alway have beautiful memories ben. No one can take that away from us. But it’s in the past and I’ve moved on. It’s time to spread your wings and fly! We’ll alway have Transylvania.
Get over me, buddy. (FYI, that comma makes it an imperative sentence)
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 21, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I apologize
I just don’t have the time to sift through every comment on this blog so that I can grade out the jokes and assign them a numerical value, let alone police all the improper grammar usages.
As Ban implied, your Orwellian colors really are starting to bleed through, buddy.
Ain’t no comedy like a commenter fight party.
I'm just bringing you the truth
no matter how much it hurts. Awwooooooo!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 21, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
the only rule
you gotta be able to laugh at yourself.
and CNS.
We like our people.
by cliffkoroll on Sep 21, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Around here?
Dust, it’s blowin’ in the wind my friend.
You know, from the millions of acres of corn and soy being harvested outside my house. Thank god for the Swiffer…
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Fan of the not 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Isles!
TMFF is a Genius. 'Nuff said.
by burpchelischili on Sep 21, 2010 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
this website is awesome
long day at work, get home, catch the end of MNF. i read 200+ posts and it sets my mind right. interesting thread. that guy who criticized Sam has some balls…
Cristobal who? It’s in the past, folks.
I don’t have many questions about this Hawks team, but I’m curious about the rest of the league. Cheechoo, Stamkos & the Lightning, Ryan Miller, Flyers without Gagne and Hartnell, the Habs. I’m looking forward to game previews already (since game previews mean actual games, not preseason nonsense). Leaves are turning, I’m ready for opening night.
They still have Hartnell as far as I have read.
All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity. - Gordie Howe
Off topic, what’s with all the political spats of late? Have we all gone Anderson Cooper 360 all of a sudden?
Wednesday it all starts and the “withdrawls” can finally end.
Pre-season is better than no season.
2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.
Can't wait
Or should I say CAN’T FUCKING WAIT!!
I wonder what the lineup will look like tomorrow. Those are topics i’m excited to think about. I lay off that political crap because well I know jack shit about it.
Off topic?
Really? I thought this was a political blog. My bad.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
I love this thread
La tension est palpable. I’m just waiting for someone to yell “Food fight!!!” and all hell breaks lose. Drop the puck.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 21, 2010 9:30 AM CDT reply actions
Now if we can just add some Wings and Blues fans this thing can turn into a full-out donnybrook.
2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.
This will put everyone in a lovey-dovey mood
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 21, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You just know how to play nice with the ladies don't you?
That’s a nice looking cup right there.
All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity. - Gordie Howe
there's a cup there?
I only see a handsome man…
by Katherine215 on Sep 21, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
What's the over under of ladies photo-shopping the cup out of the picture and putting themselves in it's place?
My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.
I
Fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Blackhawks!
Fan of the not 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Isles!
TMFF is a Genius. 'Nuff said.
by burpchelischili on Sep 21, 2010 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Oops, premature postilation.
Anyway, I checked with Vegas, they refused to give odds. Something to do with not covering past events…
Fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Blackhawks!
Fan of the not 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Isles!
TMFF is a Genius. 'Nuff said.
by burpchelischili on Sep 21, 2010 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions
what. a. massive. dork.
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by chiblackhawks on Sep 21, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's such a fanboy
I would never pose with the Cup but I would be right behind Sharpie in that photo hugging him!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 21, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
have you seen him in the locker room?
some of the ladies here would probably love to hear about that
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
don't be a tease
please tell us all about the locker room stories
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rec'd
for hilarious veracity.
We like our people.
by cliffkoroll on Sep 21, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
at least she didn't use any commas
isn’t that what the grammar police has been on lately?
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