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The Flyers can't escape Kris Versteeg.

Happy Friday to all.  Our season preview rolls along, with some thoughts on tonight's game as well.  A bit of a different take today, this one from Chevrier30:

Which of our dearly departed players from last year’s team will have the best year in their new home?

It is kind of sad that there will be so many candidates for this title.  Anyway, I'm scratching Byfuglien off of it now.  With his switch to defense, even in the Southeast he will have Gagne-St. Louis, Staal, and some Russian dude in DC bearing down on him.  Either that, or with Atlanta's underrated defensive corps, Buff might only be a third pairing guy.  He's certainly behind Enstrom, Oduya, Bogosian, and possibly even Hainsey.  Secondly, the Thrash are counting on a second year goalie in Pavalec, and that doesn't always work out.  Ask Columbus.  So he's out.

Andrew Ladd is a candidate, because he might be getting Top-6 minutes this year.  He's skating with Nik Antropov who was Atlanta's #1 center last year and had quite a year.  He's also seen time with Evander Kane, who's going to improve from his rookie year (though how anyone "improves" from KTFO of Matt Cooke, I'm not really sure).  Still, it's Atlanta's Top 6, so it's hard to put your money here. 

Then there's Niemi in San Jose.  There's no question he's going to rack up wins, that's that thing that the Sharks do.  And given his slightly advanced age from a normal rookie, and his willingness to adjust his game, I don't see much of a sophomore slide, if one at all.  And he'll have another goalie pushing him, which he most certainly didn't have from about February on here.  Niittymaki will have a month long stretch where he's lights out, so we'll see how Antti handles that.  Steady for sure.

Which brings us to one of our favorites, and someone we may keep writing about even though he's not in town just because the material is so plentiful, Kris Versteeg.  I know some have questioned Steeg's linemates in Ontario that should keep his numbers down, but remember for most of the year Steeger was playing with either John Madden, center himself, or a ghost of Dave Bolland that he was in the regular season.  He didn't get much help from his pivot.  Plus, Kris's game is all about creating for himself anyway.  And he still threw up 20 goals.  Now he'll be on the #1 power play unit and almost certainly released from all his defensive duties in what is a far more open conference.  Sure the media glare is intense, but Steeger hasn't ever exactly shied away from the camera, has he?  It'll hurt to watch, and I fully expect him and Kessel to get in a fistfight at center ice over who's hogging the puck more, but this is my pick.

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Great post

I’d go with Steeger too. If things do go south with Kessel, Versteeg! could always bust out a Verbeauty of a rap on him.

My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.

by whiskeyboy on Sep 24, 2010 12:57 PM CDT reply actions  

It's gotta be Huet

He’s going to tear up that Swiss league

Not all those who wander are lost.
my Captain is better than your Captain

by Johnny Lava on Sep 24, 2010 1:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Can beach balls fit through the holes in Swiss cheese?

My Father's name is Jack, and my Mother's name is Daniels...

by Joe Banks on Sep 24, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brent Sopel

100 point season all while curing cancer, solving world hunger, creating lasting peace in the middle east, and being an all around classy dude

by BigCSouthside on Sep 24, 2010 1:22 PM CDT reply actions  

don’t forget sucessfully repealing Don’t Ask Don’t Tell

Not all those who wander are lost.
my Captain is better than your Captain

by Johnny Lava on Sep 24, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

On a related note, I just met the Governor of New Jersey while walking to lunch on LaSalle Street. The dude was just standing there totally unnoticed. It was pretty cool. Apparently he was on Oprah today.

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by HjammerTime on Sep 24, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

I have to assume the number of people in Chicago who would recognize the Governor or NY on La Salle St is fairly low. So kudos on being in the elite group!

Our Cup.

by 334Rules on Sep 24, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

or the Gov. or NJ

State name fail

My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.

by whiskeyboy on Sep 24, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

the more I see of Christie, the more I like him

straight up, plain spoken, not backing down from anyone or really caring who “likes” him, and very real world pragmatic.

He seems to be very pro small government and keep the government interference with people’s lives to a minimum.

If he continues doing well with NJ, he’ll be increasinly pressured to run for President

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Sep 24, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree with you on this one.

I just don’t want to see him sticking his leg out when taking down a lib… LOL

39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)

by Badgerdano on Sep 24, 2010 10:16 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I've been very impressed with his approach

and how he’s won over lots of folks in such a state. Too bad it can’t ever be done in the Land of Lincoln.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Sep 27, 2010 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

NJ politics are almost identical to Illinois politics

Confusion will be my epitaph.
The Cup is ours until someone takes it from us.

by krome on Sep 27, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ladd

He wins everywhere

Like this one time:

1 Ladd
2 Cups

by TurdFurgeson on Sep 24, 2010 1:36 PM CDT reply actions  

1 Kopecky

2 Cups?

Ditto for Badgerdano

by Hack on Sep 24, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

2 Girls
1 Cup

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by HjammerTime on Sep 24, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

what? no link?

Not all those who wander are lost.
my Captain is better than your Captain

by Johnny Lava on Sep 24, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahaha. I might be banned from the site. But I encourage everyone to google it.

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by HjammerTime on Sep 24, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

if THAT’s not an irresistible invitation — particularly for this crew — I don’t know what is!

Our Cup.

by 334Rules on Sep 24, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I TRIPLE DOG DARE everyone to look!

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by HjammerTime on Sep 24, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

The videos

of people reacting while watching it are funny.

"Kane is skating as if his mullet is on fire." - 6/9/10, 10:06PM CST

by chevrier30 on Sep 24, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed. I was watching some of those too. The grandmothers in particular seem to really enjoy it.

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by HjammerTime on Sep 24, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even more wrong than that:

pictures of Modano in a Wings jersey. It’s just… wrong.

by Germware on Sep 24, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t want to see Modano like that. Disgusting.

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by K_Dog on Sep 24, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Versteeg!

great picture. nice mouthgaurd. i imagine him going around saying: “pfft. kaner got that from ME!”

We like our people.

by cliffkoroll on Sep 24, 2010 1:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Fun Steeger Fact:

he has 06 * 09 * 10 tattooed on his arm.

I miss our guys.

by Katherine215 on Sep 24, 2010 2:02 PM CDT reply actions  

For real?

That is awesome.

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by K_Dog on Sep 24, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty remarkable how much his new teammates respect Versteeg for having won the Cup. I figured they would respect him as being a good player, but because of the Cup it seems like they look at him as having an added aura about him. Almost like he is magic.

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by K_Dog on Sep 24, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

and the Verbeauty

(btw they’re using that term quite regularly on PPP lately, which is great)

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by K_Dog on Sep 24, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOO

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by HjammerTime on Sep 24, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is not happening! This is not happening! Oh wait…Dave Gilbert? I misread that as Marian Hossa. Nevermind!

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by HjammerTime on Sep 24, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Our country is fucked up. Everybody is making may out of this woman from Delaware, Christine O’Donnell, who has no shot at winning since her state is so blue. Yet I never hear anyone talking about that actual morons WHO ARE ALREADY IN CONGRESS!

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by HjammerTime on Sep 24, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

O'Donnell, or

any Tea Party candidate for that matter, should not be allowed to run. If you don’t have a college education, you shouldn’t be allowed nears polls in the first place. To vote on the law, you must first understand it and the implications of having or not having them. The Tea Party is severely lacking in that department because of how blinded they are by their rage.

by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Sep 25, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

damn no, edit

just wanted to clarify that my polls comment is more in reference to voting on propositions.

by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Sep 25, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

For what it's worth,

there really aren’t that many members in the current Congress with Law degrees, Out of the 535 members, 226 have law degrees (38.8% in the House of Rep & 57% of the Senate)

111th Congress

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on Sep 25, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I forgot to add

that it’s a total of 42%. I also think a law degree isn’t as necessary for a member of the House than it is for a Senator.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on Sep 25, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I need Coffee

The Education stats for the above link begin on page 3. Also something like 95% of the members have some sort of college degree, but not all of which would make them knowledgeable regarding law.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on Sep 25, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

no no, no no

we are not getting into this today

My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.

by whiskeyboy on Sep 25, 2010 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay with me

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on Sep 25, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Members of Congress should be drawn from the common American, who lives with the Policies of Government

No, measurement of Qualifications [other than those already outlined] should ever preclude or exclude one from running. Let the people decide who is worthy to hold office, not a select few to judge if one is “worthy” or any other “needed source”. Let the voters decide who best serves their values and interest, not those “who think” they know betterthan the people themselves.

ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Never mix Politics and Hockey.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 25, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

we don't agree on much politically, TMFF

but I do agree with you here. I’ve known plenty of dumb-ass people who somehow managed to earn college degrees, and several highly intelligent people who (for one legitimate reason or another) never finished college or got anything above an associates (or less). So what? I agree with Coz that to vote on the law, you must first understand its implications, but the degrees a person has doesn’t guarantee this. Representing other in Congress or any state legislative body should never come with qualifications like minimum education requirements — to do so would be the definition of elitist, especially when considering the price tag that comes with higher education these days.

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by puppetmasterp on Sep 25, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I going to make you a Libertarian before you know it! lol

Just got to get you to separate Philosophy from Politics, they really are two separate trains of thought.

ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Never mix Politics and Hockey.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 25, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

not quite sure i get what you mean....

how do you figure?

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by puppetmasterp on Sep 25, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Difference being

One being what the overall framework of the system as a whole is, and all must work within. The politics is your desires for personal or political power, these may be more stringent than the framework itself, and some of the desires may be outside of the frame work.

An example would be, can a Convicted Felon run for Office. My philosophy being that all can run, who meet the requirements says yes, he can run for office. My Politics on the other hand would tell him to get fucked, I am not voting for you.

Really one is what IS to be or not be [The setting and operation within the Rule of Written Law, the framework of governance and society], the other is the Desire, the conduct of people or society to be or not be [personal wants for personal gain or power].

I personally may not like something, but that does not mean I wish it to be illegal. The desire to impose that is over the limit of the Philosophy. Example: I do not like Pot, would never, and have never touched it, I have seen what it has done to family members, but to my Philosophy on Governance and Liberty, I can not justify making it illegal. However, I would fully support severe consequences for abuse or misuse which injures and disparages another from its use.
This is actually tougher to explain than I thought it would be.

ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Never mix Politics and Hockey.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 25, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is actually alot harder to explain than I thought

I have the idea in my head, I know what I mean, I’m just really having the problem of putting it into words one would understand and not ramblings like the above.

ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Never mix Politics and Hockey.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 25, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

It all falls back,

to another of the Heinlein rules. Do no harm to others. If your actions cause another person harm, then you should be punished. If your actions cause no harm to others, who gives a flying fuck?
The corollary to that being TANSTAAFL, otherwise known as There Ain’t No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.

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by burpchelischili on Sep 25, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha....well i'm sure it'll come up again at some point

I’m actually all about exchange of ideas an discussion on politics, it’s just the opinion editorials that I think can get harsh. One thing i hated about living in the Northeast was the ‘I can’t talk to you if we don’t have the same politics’ attitude — I think that’s just the midwesterner in me. But i’ll agree on the “I personally may not like something, but that does not mean I wish it to be illegal” That’s a huge part of the issues i have with politics on the political right.

At the end of the day, I still prescribe to the “it takes a village” philosophy, it’s a huge part of the culture I was raised in. It’s an odd mix considering everything I’ve made personal life decisions on was in a very “by your bootstraps” kind of way, and do tend to resent people i know great jobs based on who their family knew. that happened a lot in the post-911 job hiring slump when i left college, and made me incredibly bitter about the job searching process.

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by puppetmasterp on Sep 26, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am most certainly ofthe belief.

The Individual’s Freedom and Liberty cannot be compromised “for the Good of the Community”.

ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Never mix Politics and Hockey.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 26, 2010 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think

political exchanges here can be healthy.

the decline of mass media, while not a bad thing, means people are more likely to be exposed to beliefs of like-minded people, which creates unhealthy silos of groupthink.

this blog pushes together people with a common interest, but of diverse opinions. since we’re not here for politics per se, it doesn’t need to get heavy or tedious, but it’s a healthy reminder to everyone that others hold different, valid beliefs, but they’re still human and good Hawk fans.

As Voltaire said: “’I disagree with what you have to say but will fight to the death to protect your right to say it.”

We like our people.

by cliffkoroll on Sep 26, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

completely agree

Plus I like you people and respect your hockey opinions so I’m more likely to respect your political opinions, even if I don’t agree with them. And it humanizes the “other side.”

Also, love that Voltaire quote.

by Katherine215 on Sep 27, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

‘I can’t talk to you if we don’t have the same politics’

Sounds like that ass-hat in the McDonald’s commercial. Both of which should be beaten into the ground.

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on Sep 26, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yes, he was

And many [certainly not all] of his ideas, are valid today, going on 400 years later.

ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Never mix Politics and Hockey.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 25, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I actually like Montesquieu more

His writings in the Spirit of Laws, are laid out it more detail, and context, and I think are much easier to translate into our Founding much easier than Locke, though Locke certainly laid the foundation for Montesquieu to build on half a century later.

ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Never mix Politics and Hockey.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 25, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does anyone else

think that Steeger looks like the The Penguin in that photo?

Web surfing’s not a sport, it’s a way of life - you know, a hobby. It’s a way of looking at a wave of information and saying, "Hey blog, let’s party!"!

by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 25, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ummmmm?????????

You way of saying "enough is enough?

ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Never mix Politics and Hockey.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 25, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

i tried to clarify comment below.

by education i meant the ability to fulfill the job requirements of a standing member of congress or the senate. read, write, and understand a bill and law language required to write them.

by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Sep 25, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

being a member of congress

means you have to write, read, and understand bills and the law speak that comes with them. i myself admit i could never do it.

by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Sep 25, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

wtf

Harry Truman didn’t graduate from college.

Now, it’s all lawyers…blah, blah, fucking blah.

you’re spouting some dangerous, elitist shit there.

We like our people.

by cliffkoroll on Sep 25, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hell of a coincedance

My newest post on my Blog, I put up this morning [before this line] dealt with Voting Integrity.

ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Never mix Politics and Hockey.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 25, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

i didn't choose my carefully this morning,

that’s for sure. 4 hr sleep and lack of coffee usually do that to me. not an excuse at all. i wasn’t trying to come across as elitist, even though i did. my issue with the political climate as it is now is the Tea Party. they’re pushing all these candidates that have lost multiple times to current serving congressman. all of a sudden they are the right candidates now that they have changed platforms? no they aren’t. they are the same people. they just found a way to get in and lie while doing it. doesn’t make them any better than the idiots we have in office right now.

by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Sep 25, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree,

my only education is high school, Vo-Tech, two separate schools in the military, and 30+ years experience doing my job. This means that I am too stupid to vote?

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by burpchelischili on Sep 25, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

i didn't mean for it to come off that way.

so I apologize. just tired of trying to watch the news every night, only to see all he said she said bullshit…from people who are suppose to be running our country now, or in the future. are the tea party candidates any better than those we have in office now? not really.

by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Sep 25, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

'Kay,

I think that the current political climate is cloudy with a 80% chance of asshattery. Unfortunately, the reporters are seeding the clouds so they can get “The Story”. I have given up on the news.

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by burpchelischili on Sep 26, 2010 6:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's complete and utter bullshit

I know plenty of degreed people who have absolutely no common fucking sense whatsoever. And I know non-degreed people who have all the common sense in the world.

Other than a clear-cut violator of the law, anyone should be allowed to run as long as they’re a true representative of the people they’re supposed to actually represent. But there are too damned many elitists out there fucking telling us what we need.

By virtue of what you said in your last statement I can tell where you get your news. And your last word is indicative of the ideology you most likely represent. The people spoke in Delaware’s primary. If she wins the general election, great. If not, they so be it. Just like the incumbent in AK that lost the primary. The people spoke. You lost, get over it. The sense of entitlement of some folks on both sides of the aisle truly amazes me to no end.

I do NOT need the Gov’t to handle my finances. I do NOT need the Gov’t to get me a house. I do NOT need the Gov’t to provide my health care and I sure as HELL do NOT need the Gov’t to hand out any shit to me. Until Washington gets this, there will be the continued backlash by the people. The establishment folks ON BOTH SIDES obviously do NOT YET get this.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Sep 27, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude, relax

Did you miss Coz’s next 12 posts where he said it came out wrong and apologized?

by Katherine215 on Sep 27, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps

But I’ve heard this speech before. Too often it’s not an actual mistake but just the wrong choice of words.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Sep 28, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

But there are too damned many elitists out there fucking telling us what we need.

Or DON’T need.

Web surfing’s not a sport, it’s a way of life - you know, a hobby. It’s a way of looking at a wave of information and saying, "Hey blog, let’s party!"!

by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 27, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gee

I hope you never have a disaster like a flood or tornado or earthquake befall you. Or need a telephone. Or need to use a train. Or a highway. Or have a kid to educate.

Ad nauseum.

by hawkeytalk on Sep 27, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

or get old and need Medicare.

I have to say, I was quite happy to take an FHA loan when my sister and I bought our 2-flat. We would have needed years more to get a 10-20% down payment, and I’d rather pay the PMI than rent. And the government gave us each a first time buyer’s credit which is getting us new kitchens. But I’m a kitchen slut, I have no problem taking help to get pretty cabinets and shiny new appliances.

by Katherine215 on Sep 27, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a difference in belief

I saved for quite some time and managed as best as I could.

It sometimes can be a fine line. Credits can be OK in moderation. The problem I had with the Gov’t is using this line of thought it was peoples’ “right” to own a home. Frank said it time and time again. He also in 2007 said F&F was just fine; that was right before the housing crisis.

There’s just too many in the Gov’t today who think there are all these “rights” that are just so wrong. We do not have the “right” to a home, or a car, or a plasma TV etc. We have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Sep 28, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

the problem I have with your line of thinking

is that it’s all about you and what you want/need/believe. You live in a community; it’s NEVER all about your needs and what you want to do.

Once upon a time, someone else who was better off than my family paid a little more in taxes so that I could take student loans and grants (because I had a single mother working two jobs, one of which was as a member of your dreaded teacher’s union) and get a college education. In turn, I’m better off than my parents were, and I will one day reach the point where I have to pay just a little more in taxes so I can turn around and help pull someone else up.

You don’t like paying for Amtrak? Or the USPS? Ok, let’s get rid of them. Now, tell me, what are we using instead of trains, and how am I getting my magazines? And who is now employing the thousands of people you’ve just abruptly laid off by shutting down Amtrak or USPS?

You want to blame teachers for our poor test scores? Sure, they’re definitely part of the blame as we have some really bad teachers out there. You know why? It’s not just unions; the pay is terrible and no one with an education wants to teach and make no money.

We also have a lot of shitty parents who don’t make sure their kids go to school everyday, do their homework every night, and be accountable. Instead, they either don’t care, or believe their child can do no wrong and/or doesn’t need to know what they’re supposed to be learning.

As for FHA loans and tax credits, frankly, I’m glad that my tax dollars go toward something like that. Investing in property that you can afford is good for personal finances and the economy. I turned around and dumped my entire credit plus some back into the economy. I’d say it served its purpose of helping stimulate just a little bit. At least the Home Depot employees and my electrician and plumber think so.

I can’t recall seeing the government encourage a plasma tv as a “right.” That’s more people seeing a want and not being able to say no to themselves. You want to blame the government, fine; i’d rather people looked in the mirror and determined maybe they aren’t so entitled to everything after all. I’d like some more personal accountability, thank you.

To me, it is incredibly easy to criticize what you don’t like or claim not to need, but I don’t ever see a lot of solutions to these same complaints.

by Katherine215 on Sep 28, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

How's 2 of 3

Flood for me and tornado for my in-laws (they live in OK). Not once did we have to go to the Gov’t.

But where we perhaps may differ is that I don’t want the Gov’t doing it. Sure, put forth [reasonable] regulations but don’t run it.

I’ve been a GM owner for over 3 decades. But with what’s happened the past year+, no way would I buy a GM vehicle now, after the sneak shots the Gov’t pulled.

Funny you mention a train. Did you know that Amtrak, America’s choo-choo has been in business for 4 decades and has yet to turn a profit? Who do you think is footing the bill?

How ‘bout the good ’ol mail. The US Post Office stands to lose about $8B this year, after $7B in 2009. Funny but I can’t seem to find the financials of FedEx or UPS doing nearly as bad.

On education: Vouchers. I guess I can’t figure out how so many school districts spend so much money per student yet test scores do not reflect the spending. Why? Unions. Teachers are great. Unions? Not so much.

Simply put, I don’t want a nanny state. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU3t2c92UK8 It’s a prelude to a warning for America. Guess what? England has pulled back on its budgetary spending. They’re making progress, significantly.

The bottom line is you cannot spend your way out of financial problems. Debt will skyrocket.

Just win the next game...!

by blackhawk24 on Sep 28, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have relatives who work for the Postal Service

They get paid about the same as the UPS and Fed Ex drivers, but they hit EVERY house Every day. Change that and you change the USPS finances. It is also cheaper to mail a letter by mail by a large factor. If the USPS was allowed to charge what UPS and Fed Ex do, there would not be a loss every year. The cost of stamps is ridiculously low, raise it to at least a fraction of the cost of a seat at a Hawks game, (see what I did there? Now it’s a Hockey related comment. lol), and watch it pay for itself…

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by burpchelischili on Sep 28, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

We have lots of beer

And even more hockey. Life is good here.

by PDiggy on Sep 24, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

You also have

Canadiens fans, Senators fans & Vancouver fans…

by Germware on Sep 24, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha!

Calgary doesn’t have fans anymore!

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my Captain is better than your Captain

by Johnny Lava on Sep 24, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Eventhough I love Colbert

Why the Christ was he testifying in Congress? FOL (fuck our lives, trademark pending)

My hatred of the Canucks is matched only by my love of drinking.

by whiskeyboy on Sep 24, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because the Chairwoman of that committee is a complete airhead. Even some of the liberal bloggers were getting after her today for bringing him on.

Tomorrow, Jon Stewart will tell us why we need to let the Bush tax cuts expire and Glenn Beck will explain why the Stimulus was a failure.

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by HjammerTime on Sep 24, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I find it hilarious

(though I might be a bit worried if it happened in my country). I dunno, I think Colbert is a very smart guy; he’s kind of like your Ian Hislop. I wouldn’t mind Hislop being asked for his opinion/testification(?) on a matter of Parliament.

by Germware on Sep 24, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he is very smart if not too cute by half.

Regardless, it was a hearing funded by taxpayers and I’m really not sure why a fucking comedian was up there dealing with serious issues which he has absolutely no experience with (as he even said).

The whole thing was a big publicity stunt and Im a little curious as to why a smart guy like him would accept this invitation.

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by HjammerTime on Sep 24, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

this
why a smart guy like him would accept this invitation

Hopefully to show Congress just how foolish they are

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my Captain is better than your Captain

by Johnny Lava on Sep 24, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he could consider this "Mission Accomplished"!
Hopefully to show Congress just how foolish they are

IMO, I think the Hawks should go to the Hill, and sell their Clown Shoes to Members of Congress. It is a win win scenario, the Hawks need to get rid of them, and I’m sure their are many “Clowns” who have yet to pick up their own shoes yet! (No taxpayer money allowed in the purchase though)

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Never mix Politics and Hockey.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 24, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I’m sure the Blackhawks would have loved to go to Washington. But a certain asshole President never extended the invite.

The Bulls would have been there the next day.

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by HjammerTime on Sep 24, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Penguins made their visit September 2, 2009. I have yet to hear anything on this. I posed the question on a different thread but got no response.

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by HjammerTime on Sep 24, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

If they visited when in Washington they would wait until March. This obviously isn’t going to happen. Plus the team is missing like 9 players. Im assuming this is going to happen. Which is a major fucking bummer.

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by HjammerTime on Sep 24, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

you don't like the President

but you want the team to meet him.

what am I missing here?

by Katherine215 on Sep 24, 2010 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

The President is still the President

Regardless of who it is

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Never mix Politics and Hockey.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 24, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I always wanted to see the Blackhawks at the White House regardless. It has nothing to do with the actual President.

I always saw the Wings teams there and wanted it to be us. I dont care if its Clinton-Bush or Obama. There is absolutely no contradiction there. I want the country to get another reminder that were the Champs. Nothing more.

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by HjammerTime on Sep 24, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, I get that

it was just odd that you were cursing him one minute then mad the team wasn’t going.

by Katherine215 on Sep 24, 2010 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

According to this article

the President looked forward to welcoming the team at the White House.
Obama Quenneville Call

Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."

by cdz3210 on Sep 24, 2010 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK, yeah, I just watched the clips

The first clip with him (2nd on the page) was pretty funny, but it was essentially pointless; the second clip showed why he went on, & it was to make his case and bring attention to the problem. But I agree with you that I could’ve done without the jokey part at the start.

by Germware on Sep 24, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

FWIW

Elmo has testified to Congress at the request of R Duke Cunningham. Source.

by Germware on Sep 25, 2010 3:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why

do your politicians talk so sloooooooooowllyyyyyyy?

by Germware on Sep 24, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

More face time on TV.

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by HjammerTime on Sep 24, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some of our population is none too smart

so we have to talk slowly to communicate with them.

by stanfordron on Sep 24, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

VERSTEEG

Go to the MAPLE LEAFS site (Pension Puppetts I think it is)— they love our boy
I can not wait till he goes on the 10 game West Coast and shows the LEAFS how to party in the limo in Canuckland………………..

by puckhedd on Sep 24, 2010 3:37 PM CDT reply actions  

I said Ladd and Versteeg

I am still not sure which will have the better season, but I’m fairly confident both will have good seasons. Both should be Top 6 on their respective teams, and both contribute well in their own way (Though I think Versteeg’s Country Stupid side will show up at a much higher rate).

Buff on D, I do not think that will last. He will go back and be a 2nd – 3rd Line Forward (knowing Notlanta probably Center) by New Years.

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Never mix Politics and Hockey.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 24, 2010 3:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh God

The thought of Buff on faceoffs…

by Germware on Sep 24, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Commical

Like watching an Elephant try to Fuck a football

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Never mix Politics and Hockey.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 24, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now that's a porn reference... or a cluster...

My Father's name is Jack, and my Mother's name is Daniels...

by Joe Banks on Sep 24, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ladd will likely be the better all around player ... but Versteeg will get all the attention

Ladd is solid two way help the team reliably win night in and night out.

Versteeg is really flashy.

Versteeg wins the attention wars – while Ladd is the guy more coaches would pick to have on their team

Confusion will be my epitaph.

by krome on Sep 24, 2010 3:42 PM CDT reply actions  

sorta like Crosby / Toews

Not all those who wander are lost.
my Captain is better than your Captain

by Johnny Lava on Sep 24, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

im not sure what youre saying here

that crosby is more flashy and toews is the better all around player? because thats not even remotely true

by Fat Pat on Sep 24, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

because off all the pretty goals?

Just look at the past Olympics. Toews was selected to the All-Tourney team, even selected as Best Forward.

What did Crosby get? Nothing, except his picture all over everywhere because he scored the last goal.

Not all those who wander are lost.
my Captain is better than your Captain

by Johnny Lava on Sep 24, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

This has to be sarcasm.

FifthFeather.com

by El Duque's Raft on Sep 24, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

mostly

I do think Toews has better leadership qualities and a greater drive to constantly improve himself, so I would prefer him of Crosby if I was a coach

Not all those who wander are lost.
my Captain is better than your Captain

by Johnny Lava on Sep 25, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's on NHL network.

I think that Scum’s site is also streaming it live.

by spokeinthebandwagon on Sep 24, 2010 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's on CSN tonight, WGN tomorrow night.

You can find it streaming. Channelsurfing and atdhe both have it.

by Ban on Sep 24, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

It’s weird they are choosing not to broadcast the Penguins-Hawks game. I know it’s preseason but its still the last 2 Cup champs.

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by HjammerTime on Sep 24, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Someone we haven't talked about much but is worth watching

Brian Connelly played with Keith in the last preseason game. With Keith out tonight (per Kuc), Connelly may get some ice time where he’s expected to carry a man’s load. He was rookie of the year in the AHL a while back, so I’m intrigued about what people think of him out there on big league ice.

by spokeinthebandwagon on Sep 24, 2010 4:46 PM CDT reply actions  

He was Rockford’s rookie of the year last year, not the AHL’s rookie of the year.

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by El Duque's Raft on Sep 24, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm curious to see how Connelly does too

but

he’s expected to carry a man’s load

is this some kind of hazing ritual the rookies go through?

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by K_Dog on Sep 24, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

He looked "steady' againest Tampa

actually he might the “sleeper” of the camp

"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson

by ccm on Sep 24, 2010 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

d'awww, Steeger

I’m glad they’re loving him over there in Toronto. Was following a mostly Flyers chat at last night’s preseason game between the Leafs and the Flyers, and even a couple of the people there seemed impressed by him. Tonight he’ll be playing on a line with Kessel so I’ll be interested in seeing how that turns out. Of all the dearly departed Hawks, he’s the player who I hope does really well/fits in his new team. (But if you know me, you probably knew that already. :|)

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by chiblackhawks on Sep 24, 2010 5:00 PM CDT reply actions  

No porn reference? WTF.

My Father's name is Jack, and my Mother's name is Daniels...

by Joe Banks on Sep 24, 2010 5:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Favorite Kris Versteeg quote of all time.....

Did you hear Tazer hates dogs, children, and old people?

"Make the bastard chase you, he will follow."

by RaoulDuke27 on Sep 24, 2010 5:52 PM CDT reply actions  

OT But where the Fuck did VerStig go?

Is he completely off the grid?

I’m patiently [well yes, or no, maybe, perhaps, IDK] waiting on some of his cross-mutual interference-goal time off the ice, double helix triad, to the square of infinity / 0 stats.

Oh, and I know he is a NYC guy that would be great to get to MSG on Nov 1.

ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Never mix Politics and Hockey.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 24, 2010 6:02 PM CDT reply actions  

as i recall

he let several comments drop about revolutionizing hockey stats this summer.

i bet he’s pulling all-nighters on his mutual+/- / corsi / quality chances / quality of opposition motherfucker stat analysis of all time.

can’t wait, realy.

We like our people.

by cliffkoroll on Sep 24, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, I need to get back in the habit, I almost forgot

FUCK SCUM [Do not know if I will be able to get to see the game]

ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Never mix Politics and Hockey.

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 24, 2010 6:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Versteeg!!!

Too much effort from Versteeg-Ladd would disappear during the season—unless he was playin Canucks—Versteeg gave 100% -110% of the time

"Trying is the first step towards failure" Homer Simpson

by ccm on Sep 24, 2010 7:40 PM CDT reply actions  

60% of the time

it works everytime?

Ditto for Badgerdano

by Hack on Sep 26, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

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