Thursday Grab Bag and Season Preview Unveiling
by SamFels on Sep 9, 2010 3:31 PM CDT
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PrintLots of little things today, and maybe one big thing:
-As McClure posted here last night, the Hawks signed Ryan Potulny, who looks like a straight up Versteeg replacement. I'm not sure why people such as Sassone are confused by this and the Pisani signing. The Hawks lost at least two penalty killers in Versteeg and Fraser, as well as Ladd and Burish who took their turns doing so, and Pisani fills that gap. Potulny is a shifty little player with some wheels who could benefit from being around superior talent. Or he just got 15 goals in Edmonton because someone had to get them there. Don't be worried about the -21, look at what was defending and goaltending in northern Alberta last season. Secondly, this assures that Skille or Beach or Dowell or whoever aren't going to have to hurdle some obstacle to get on the roster. Handing things to kids rarely works. Oh, and why is Pittsburgh's signing of 13-goal Mike Comrie genius but our signing of 15-goal Polulny curious, when both are from the same team (granted Comrie played in 20 less games, but it's not like injuries are a rare occurrence for him)?
-Second item, the Hawks have promoted everyone to VP of something, and I don't know what that means other than they get to put out a press release and McDonough gets to flash that smile that basically tells you he just finished blowing himself over what a great job he's doing.
-Right then, so on to the good stuff. Next week we'll be starting our season previews. Last year you may remember we posed a question that we would answer about the upcoming season. That was ok, but asking us to think of a question and an answer led to a lot of blown fuses (both emotionally and physically). So as always, we're going to shirk some of our responsibility. This year, you're going to ask the questions. Use the comments section here, or if someone wants to start a fanpost thread as well, and spend the next couple days collecting questions you might have about the upcoming season. They can be anything, as serious or as goofy as you want. Starting Monday, at least one of us will pick one each day to post about. Pretty simple. Have at it.
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YAAYYY!!!
new things to read at work are a’comin!
Thank God
Because I reached the end of the internet the other day.
by warrenjm2006 on Sep 10, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions
It is a barren and disturbing land
full of dicks and racist comments
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
Puck Daddy is the end of the internetz?
So where is the beginning?
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 10, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't ask why. I was bored...
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 10, 2010 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
And we have our 2011 winner
is that sifl and/or olly in front ofthe windex? Does anyone know what I’m talking about?
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
no restaurant?
Do I know what rhetorical means?
by cliffkoroll on Sep 10, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
you wouldn't want to eat there if there was
The one at the end of the universe is better
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
Yes. Yes he will.
- Toews will reach the 40-goal plateau as well.
- Turco will record 8 or more shutouts.
- Brian Campbell will have a career year offensively after Kitchen actually uses him on the PP.
- Ladd will be back @ the trade deadline after the Thrashers continue to stink for another season.
- Nothing is fucked dude we’re still the best and will terrorize the rest.
2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.
Laddy, eh?
Like it, BIGTIME. Now its up to the money side to shake out.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Sep 10, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I think Toews get 100 before Kane
Right handed people live, on average, nine years longer than left handed people.
Because he works harder, is smarter, and is stronger
Kane may have more stick handling, but Toews is the definition of a hockey stud.
If I’m wrong, it’s OK. It means good things for the team.
Right handed people live, on average, nine years longer than left handed people.
Ok, I don't disagree with any of that
So you think Toews will have more of a “breakout year(s)” points-wise, and Kane will stay at or near where he’s at now for awhile?
by Katherine215 on Sep 10, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
No
Tazers 100th point will be an assist on Kaners 99th in game 80.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
I'm buying when that happens.
count on it.
Right handed people live, on average, nine years longer than left handed people.
What if it's game 79?
Will you still buy?
Fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Blackhawks!
Fan of the not 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Isles!
TMFF is a Genius. 'Nuff said.
by burpchelischili on Sep 10, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm
Running those numbers, if they do it before then, like at game 60, you could be a very poor man. hehe
Fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Blackhawks!
Fan of the not 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Isles!
TMFF is a Genius. 'Nuff said.
by burpchelischili on Sep 10, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I have been known to buy drinks for people, especially afer I have bought a few.
Right handed people live, on average, nine years longer than left handed people.
He didn't say he was buying for everyone.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
He did say he was buying,
but I guess he didn’t say “for all” Darn
Fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Blackhawks!
Fan of the not 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Isles!
TMFF is a Genius. 'Nuff said.
by burpchelischili on Sep 10, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I'll say Tazers 100th
will be a SHG set up by Hossa coming out of the box and it’ll be his 99th pt.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Sep 10, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't think Toews could break out much more than last year.
He won everything worth winning including many $ of bonus. Let “the others” (Ovie, creepy twins,etc) collect all the reg season goodies they want. Gold Medal, Best forward of Oly tourney, playoff mvp, “Big silver trophy with lots of names”.
I love the hockey player in Toews, the “fuck you” in Kane, the wicked stick and skates of Keith, the thunder of Seabrook, The Hammer, Campbell, Sharp, Brouwer, the young guys, the new guys, and oh yeah, Marian Hossa.
Hockey is for us.
Right handed people live, on average, nine years longer than left handed people.
I see the points wise now - sorry
Right handed people live, on average, nine years longer than left handed people.
no problem
I was just curious if you thought Toews would have an offensive explosion over the next couple years while Kane sort of levels off for awhile. My thought was that Toews would always be a little lower than Kane points-wise since he does have the PK time and is just more defensively responsible, but I just wanted to hear why you thought differently.
by Katherine215 on Sep 10, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
disagree
Kane doesn’t play on the PK, so he tends to take longer shifts 5 on 5 and PP.
His defensive improvement last year was great, but he doesn’t have near Toews’ defensive responsibility.
Do I know what rhetorical means?
by cliffkoroll on Sep 10, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
wow
you think toews will improve by 30 pts before kane will notch an additional 12? I’d give you 3 to 1 odds on that one.
An improved powerplay alone would probably give Kane an additional 7-10 points.
I’m not so sure that Toews will ever produce a 100 point season. I hope I’m wrong, but toews does so many things well that if he were to settle into a 40-40 a year guy, I’d be pretty happy with that ceiling.
Ditto for Badgerdano
I haven't heard much recently about Kane...
But I have been paying most of my sports attention to the Sox.
Anyways I really hope he has put in a little work this summer, the guy needs to put on 20 more pounds (It took me over a year to do this)..
there's only so much you can put on that kid's 5'9" frame
Word is that he already put 10-15 pounds on last year, an additional 20 lbs would put him close to Toews weight, and he’s 4 inches shorter.
Sign me up for an additional 5-10 lbs, anything more than that probably isn’t feasible.
If you’re looking for someone to put on weight this year, look at Bolland and Hammer, those two need to put on weight like kane did last year.
Ditto for Badgerdano
I think the correct spelling is
Summer of Sin. He debauched himself so hard, it demanded to be capitalized.
by ben9599 on Sep 9, 2010 3:44 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Guy Lafleur
joked about always breaking curfew when he was with the Habs, he said they played so well because the played guilty….
I dont think Kaner
is capable of guilt
I wake up in the morning and piss ecellence
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
by BigCSouthside on Sep 9, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions
First step of admitting you're a
serial killer is saying “I am not capable of experiencing the emotion of guilt.”
PK
I think you mean Madden, not Frasier.
I also want to take out a moment to mourn the passing (from the front page) of the post entitled “Those Anarcho Punks are Mysterious”. I don’t even know that song, bu that may be the best title of all time.
Do I know what rhetorical means?
Lyrics (why I chose that as the headline)
Chicago Blackhawks - 2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Things have changed forever, we're the Ramblin' Boys of Pleasure
How long do you think?
Kopecky will stay on the second line. This according to moys line projections. work cited on demand.
This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.
Is that a question?
All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity. - Gordie Howe
Questions:
1. Which bear is best?
2. Will Meeshak return to SCH? Follow-up question, if yes, will he be funny?
3. When and where is the 1st meetup of the new season?
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
1) Black bear
2) He was funny in the first place?
3) We’re working on it.
Chicago Blackhawks - 2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Things have changed forever, we're the Ramblin' Boys of Pleasure
Chicago Blackhawks - 2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Things have changed forever, we're the Ramblin' Boys of Pleasure
x
I wake up in the morning and piss ecellence
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
by BigCSouthside on Sep 9, 2010 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
as long as they watch BSG too we're all good
All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity. - Gordie Howe
Do you think
Hammer of the Gods will see more ice time this year as the first line? I love that line, and I think it would be nice to see more of it
I wake up in the morning and piss ecellence
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
I realize that I
am asking you to speculate about the mind of Q (which may be dangerous), but I was basing this question on the perception that we have lost some forward depth, and would it be beneficial to throw out a loaded line like that to compensate for production we may not get from line 3 and 4
I wake up in the morning and piss ecellence
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
by BigCSouthside on Sep 9, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
It's been so long since regular postage
that I’ve almost forgot what to expect.
1) Who is the defending Stanley Cup champion?
2) Which NHL team based in eastern Michigan is not the defending Stanley Cup champion?
3) Why is it that in Columbia Missouri, where I am currently learning how to drink like Sam be a journalist, there are no hockey fans? (The girl that told me that her boyfriend is a goalie so she LOOOOOVES Chris Maso…HES NOT ON THE BLUES ANYMORE?! doesn’t count)
4) Of 0, 1, 2, 3, how many games @St. Louis should I attend (sidenote: I have no money)
5) I am suddenly a strong advocate for NHL Kansas City to come to fruition. (That wasn’t a question, was it?)
6)My dorm room gets neither Comcast Sportsnet (obviously) nor Versus (not so obviously). What the fuck am I gonna do?
7) Another non-question. My apologies.
Four weeks from today. 28 days. Title defense, begin. M-I-Z, and LET’S GO HAWKS!
CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS-2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!
1-you know damn well who is.
2-see above
3-because Columbia is nothing more than a suburb of STL. There are fans. Mizzou has a div 2 club ice team and a pretty solid div1 roller club. the hockey fans there are just dormant if Mizzou has any chance of being decent at football or basketball. luckily the Cards are done, so the STL kids will turn their focus to hockey.
4-3 is the only acceptable number
5-Join the club. it’s not going to happen, as most of the fans here clamoring for a winter sport at Sprint Center, seem to blindly think that the NBA and NCAA Basketball are remotely similar. here’s to hoping the CHL team in Independence continutes to succeed both on the ice and in the community. Go Mavs!
6-NHL Gamecenter Live.
7-Never gets old. Ever.
Sorry for partying!
Sir columbia does suck
I was down there for the third and fourth game vs nashville and i had to fucking beg them to turn the game on. Some reason the retards at the bar thought a cards game was more important….
Good luck with attempting to find any games down there.
not enough blacks play for them to have a team in KC
And no St Louis games why would you waste the hour drive and the 30 dollars on tickets lol
by ChicagoWho?12 on Sep 9, 2010 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
ATDHE.net
for online game watching.
I used it at school in Wisconsin when games were blacked out. Or if my roommate was watching Bad Girls Club. He was male.
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
still male.
still in question, however.
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
I also have no money
4. Buy tickets for one game in advance, and see if you can get a cheap ticket for a second game
5. Bettman hasn’t expanded recently, so you have a chance. I’d put Milwaukee on the list, and apparently Quebec is back in the running. Of course, knowing Bettman, we’ll end up with a franchise in Havanna.
6. I love listening to hockey on the radio. I’m only 26, and I know that makes me sound 76. However, getting wrapped up in a radio broadcast has an auro of awesomeness about it. All the games are free to listen to on the radio off of nhl.com.
by warrenjm2006 on Sep 10, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions
In which game will Tazer provide proof of living sainthood?
I say the day after Christ’s birth at home against Columbus. He will take a pass from Kaner in the slot, levitate four inches above the ice, glide to the crease and put the puck in the top right hand corner of the net, all while surrounded with nimbus pulsating white light.
where is Sharp’s other leg?
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Sep 10, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
What are your thoughts on Brent Seabrook's contract situation?
1) Extend mid-season or after the season?
2) How much/yr and how long should the deal be?
3) If the hawks extend seabs and essentially have their top 4 set for a few years, where does this put Olsen, Leddy, and LaLonde in terms of status in organization?
Ditto for Badgerdano
re: 2
ESPECIALLY since we’re gonna have new rules for calculating the cap for contracts over 5 years long…
(Tweets @ChiBlackhawks and blogs at Blackhawks Down Low.)
by chiblackhawks on Sep 9, 2010 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Mid-season, 3.75 mill a year for 5 years, and they’re screwed.
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
he's already at $3.5 mil - he's certainly going to be more than $3.75 - I'd say no less than $5
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
I pretty much agree with you
about the $5 million hit. Definitely no less than $4.5 million.
Slightly off topic – One thing I’ve been wondering about, is with the possibility of a strike or lockout at the end of the 2011 – 2012 season, will be if Seabrook and his agent will try to get away with a low salary for the 2012 – 2013 season. If they do, I wonder how low the NHL will let them go.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
I think he won't take a big raise to help the team
He seems like that kind of guy.
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
I am figuring $5 to $5.5 over a fair term (5 plus years)
Preparing my psyche for the coming Capocalypse
Confusion will be my epitaph.
i think that's too much...
anything over $4.5 mil is too much. The team may need to spend that money on newer blood and for a deeper team.
by the way...
I don’t disagree that $5 mil is a fair price for him. I just think we have too many large, long-term deals right now.
I agree
I’d be okay with 4.5, but anything over that… see ya.
"I have only space enough to add: against the assault of desperate pandas nothing can stand."
-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)
by HungryHungryPanda on Sep 10, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
That would be nice
I guess we’ll we’ll have to see. I just hope they resign him during the season. I don’t want see any offer sheets coming his way.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
I think the kids will be alright
Normally you want D-men to develop a little longer anyway, and I’m sure it will be to their benefit in the long run to spend a little longer down in the AHL. Also, they’ll get their chance on the third pairing as time passes. From there, they can be traded to some other team so that new young guys can get their chance. I think that’s how a dynasty works, but I’ve been wrong before.
by warrenjm2006 on Sep 10, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
that whole develop while on the third pair thing
didn’t really work for Barker. Maybe that’s just Barker, but if you lock seabs up to anything over 4 years, then you really will make it tough for those young guys to have a significant role on this team. That’s not to say that seabs shouldn’t be signed, but it is an interesting question.
Ditto for Badgerdano
I hope he's signed midseason
So I can stop fretting that my new Seabrook jersey is going to be used as a $160 hankie come July.
Go jump in Toews Lake.
Aubrey: old German for king of the elves. Huff: English for...huff.
by shinkicker on Sep 10, 2010 11:36 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Screw it, go right for the DK-like deal
The way I see it, if they have to do a 27.5-for-5, that’s a $5.5M cap hit. AND it’s something that I can see an OS being come next Summer. It’ll cost a 1st, 2nd & 3rd based on this season’s OS rules. Don’t know if they can handle an add’l $2M cap hit given all the other guys situations they have to cover. So….how’s this shake out? Seab’s B-day is 4/20 so he’d finish the contract just a few days before he turns 40. Fit’s in the new rules too and the cap hit is only $1M more than now.
SEASON NHL SALARY CAP HIT ~ End Season Age
2011-2012 $7,000,000 $4,500,000 4/15/2012 26
2012-2013 $7,000,000 $4,500,000 4/15/2013 27
2013-2014 $7,000,000 $4,500,000 4/15/2014 28
2014-2015 $6,500,000 $4,500,000 4/15/2015 29
2015-2016 $6,250,000 $4,500,000 4/15/2016 30
2016-2017 $6,000,000 $4,500,000 4/15/2017 31
2017-2018 $5,500,000 $4,500,000 4/15/2018 32
2018-2019 $4,500,000 $4,500,000 4/15/2019 33
2019-2020 $3,750,000 $4,500,000 4/15/2020 34
2020-2021 $2,750,000 $4,500,000 4/15/2021 35
2021-2022 $2,000,000 $4,500,000 4/15/2022 36
2022-2023 $1,750,000 $4,500,000 4/15/2023 37
2023-2024 $1,500,000 $4,500,000 4/15/2024 38
2024-2025 $1,500,000 $4,500,000 4/15/2025 39
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Sep 10, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
I disagree with signing seabs to one of these lifetime deals
Organizations need to be careful with these long term deals, and only hand them out when they are warranted. Seabs is not dunc, and I’m very hesitant to signing him to anything longer than 5 years. In an effort to lower cap hits, GM’s are making very risky moves with these long term deals. Any player can get hurt, (not a career ending injury, but a severe one) and then they could come back and be half the player they were. No one knows what the hawks situation will be in 5-6 years; maybe a young dman will have earned a big pay day, but we won’t be able to lock him up because of the long term contracts that we jumped into.
Seabs was great for us in the playoffs, he is a solid stay at home Dman, a physical presence, and he allows dunc to be the player that he is, but he has ups and downs as well. Pre-concussion, seabs had a couple of tough months and wasn’t playing top pair quality hockey. I love seabs’ game next to dunc, but 4 yrs 20 mil or 5 years 22.5 mil seems just about right.
Ditto for Badgerdano
interesting perspective
but I don’t think Nintendo is a sure thing and Soup’s horizon may be just a couple years.
Seebs is still so young, but very experienced. No question he’s way beyond where he’d be without the minutes and responsibility he’s enjoyed, and he ain’t Dunc, but I think he’s the real deal- in some ways, more valuable than Dunc already.
His progression even over the past year, his knack for clutch goals (Vancouver game 2 ginormous), the fact that he made the Canadian Olympic team. Core.
Do I know what rhetorical means?
I certainly agree that he's part of the core
but I believe there is a misconception of “core” with all of these long term deals being thrown around. (not necessarily your misconception)
Kane and Toews are core players, but they are on 5 year deals (granted this was probably more their doing than the organization’s). Love me some low cap hits, but I really do hate these 8-13 year deals and I’m hoping that the new CBA rules will keep GM’s from handing them out. To me, core doesn’t mean 10 year deal, it can be a 5 year deal and a recognition that if that player keeps up his stellar play, then he’ll get a new deal when the time comes.
Ditto for Badgerdano
i agree
with the caution against long-term deals in general, but exceptions can be made for consummate professionals (e.g. Soriano), right?
i was reacting to the idea of keeping the decks clear for a new up-and-comer (maybe even Hammer), a legitimate concern.
but if seebs keeps performing and the D market continues to sizzle in the months ahead, the Hawks may have to do what they have to do here, and i say, if that means a long-term contract, you gotta do it, despite the risks, because there’s a good chance he’ll be a top d-man for the next dozen years.
Do I know what rhetorical means?
more valuable than Dunc?
I don’t know if I can agree with that statement. I feel like it’d be easier to find a stay-at-home, big body defenseman over someone like Keith, but I could be wrong. I don’t pay much attention to the up&comers.
And re: Olympics, I may be the only person of this opinion, but I feel like the Olympics showed that Seabs needs Duncs more than Duncs needs him. After all, it was Seabs who was benched most during the Olympics, and especially in the gold medal game. You could tell Seabrook had made the team solely because of the great chemistry between him and Duncs, and despite that being the reason, the two barely seemed to play together.
heh
i thought about that when I typed it.
i yield to no man (or woman) in the ardor of my keith man-love.
i only meant to say if you’re lookin’ for a heavy slap shot or bone-crunching hit, #7 is your guy over #2. i probably didn’t express that well originally.
but don’t go dumpin’ all over biscuit. he was the number 7 d-man on the olympics, but i think he merited it, and almost ALL the best d-men are hosers eh.
the gap between keith and seebs is smaller than the gap between seebs and nintendo or soup.
Do I know what rhetorical means?
by cliffkoroll on Sep 12, 2010 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions
respectfully disagree, again
the gap between keith and seebs is smaller than the gap between seebs and nintendo or soup.
If you’re talking about Dman play in your own zone, I agree, but as far as 2 way Dmen go, I disagree.
Don’t get me wrong here, seabs is a better 2 way Dman than hammer, no doubt about it, but when you consider Dunc’s offensive contribution in addition to his shut down defense, the gap between Dunc and Seabs is huge. There are very few Dmen in the league who can put up 50 + points while being a shut down defenseman, and this is why I think the gap between Seabs and Hammer is smaller than the one between dunc and seabs. If this team lost Dunc, we’d be fucked. If this team lost Seabs, Hammer could step in and play with Dunc on the top pairing; the dropoff would be considerable, and the team would be worse off, but that’d be nothing compared to losing Dunc. Now, you didn’t say that losing dunc would be easier, but I’m just using this example to illustrate my point about Dunc and Seabs relative value to this team.
My last few posts make it seem like I’m not a huge Seabs fan, but that couldn’t be further from the truth. As I’ve said, I’d like to see Seabs get a nice 4 or 5 year deal.
Ditto for Badgerdano
upon further review
I think an easier way to describe my position is…
Nik Hjalmarrson is closer to being a top pair shutdown Dman than Brent Seabrook is to being a Norris Trophy winner.
Ditto for Badgerdano
perfect
i’d be happy if seebs got a nomination at some point, which i think is a realistic hope.
Do I know what rhetorical means?
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4 for 20 or 5 for 22.5 but the market will likely be higher than that and I’m sure Seabs’ agent will know that, even before next summer. Of course no one knows the situation in 5-6 years however in 6 years, Campbell’s $7.1M will have expired, leaving a lot open for the ‘Hawks, assuming he’s still here.
I looked at some other current deals for players with 4-6yr contracts. Seabs is better than most and about as good as others.
Player Team Pos Age #Yrs Salary Cap Hit
Phaneuf TOR D 25 6 $7,000,000 $6,500,000
Bouwmeester CGY D 26 5 $6,600,000 $6,680,000
Komisarek TOR D 28 5 $6,000,000 $4,500,000
Gilbert EDM D 27 6 $5,500,000 $4,000,000
Martin PIT D 29 5 $5,500,000 $5,000,000
Hainsey ATL D 29 5 $5,000,000 $4,500,000
Green WAS D 24 4 $5,000,000 $5,250,000
Hamhuis VAN D 27 6 $5,000,000 $4,500,000
Whitney EDM D 27 6 $4,500,000 $4,000,000
It will come down to whether or not the ’Hawks feel they can afford $1M more per year cap hit with a 4-5 year deal. The RFA status certainly will help the ’Hawks though.
Lastly, the ’Hawks may just consider Seabs expendable and will take the draft picks for an OS signing. That of course depends a lot on what guys like Lalonde, Leddy & Vishnevskiy do.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Sep 13, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I think the RFA status is a big deal
I’ll be pretty surprised if a team throws 6 mil/yr at Seabs all while forfeiting 4 first round draft picks
I just can’t see it happening, and if it does, Seabs might be playing for a different team next year.
The only issue with Seabs is that he’s arbitration eligible. Will an arbitor award him with something north of 5-5.5 mil? I hope not.
Ditto for Badgerdano
Oh, wait he's arb-eligible? Forgot that
That throws a monkey wrench in there just like with Nemo.
But on the RFA-comp, it’s a 1st, 2nd & 3rd $4.64M-$6.18M, at least that’s for 2010. Don’t know how 2011 will change.
What I’d wonder is if his agent will read the market, see over 50 guys out there for 2010-11 that make more than Seabs and think: The bidding starts at $5.25M a year. Can the ’Hawks manage the cap with Seabs making about $2M more than he is right now and do it for several years? Hmmmm…..
Just win the next game...!
keep in mind
we do get our $4m in bonuses back on next year’s cap. So that will help a little.
by Katherine215 on Sep 13, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
For sure, you bet
Trying to think how much of that they think they can spend on a Seabs’ extension.
Just win the next game...!
4.64-6.18 mil
Where did you get those numbers? I assume you are correct, but do you have a source?
The 5 mil I quoted came from the CBA (which took affect in 2005-2006). I didn’t read the part of the CBA that said that the numbers go up by the same percentage that the league average salary goes up.
The 1st, 2nd, and 3rd is listed as in the 3-4 million range in the CBA. % increase from 3 mil to your quoted 4.64 mil = 54.7%, and the % increase from 4 mil to your quoted 6.18 mil is 54.5%.
What is your source for the past and current league average salaries?
Ditto for Badgerdano
Here's a link from NHL.com and a copy of the Compensation
OFFER COMPENSATION
$1,020,348
or below None
Over $1,020,348 to $1,545,981
Third-round choice
Over $1,545,981 to $3,091,963 Second-round choice
Over $3,091,963 to $4,637,944 First-round and third-round choice
Over $4,637,944 to $6,183,925 First-round, second-round and third-round choice
Over $6,183,925 to $7,729,907 Two first-round choices, one second- and one third-round choice
Over $7,729,907 Four first-round choices
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
thanks
I guess these numbers mean that the average NHL salary in ’05 has increased by 54.5%.
a 1st, a 2nd, and a 3rd round pick may not be too much for a particular team if they really want Seabs.
Offer sheets are still pretty rare, but then again, maybe when San Jose loses in the playoffs again this year, Wilson will sign Seabs to a 6 mil/yr offer sheet.
Ditto for Badgerdano
I was looking at Payrolls
on Capgeek. Of all of the teams that can both afford and need someone like Seabrook, I think it would be Buffalo. (He’d be great for Tyler Myers) I don’t think the Sabres would offer him the full $6 million but they could offer something in the mid $5 million range. I’m hoping that the Hawks can extend Seabrook’s contract during the season and the number is $5 mil or less. I guess the question for Buffalo would be if Seabrook was worth giving up a late 1st, 2nd and 3rd round draft pick.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
yikes, seabrook-myers
that’d be a tough pairing, good thing they’re in the east
Ditto for Badgerdano
I'm sure other teams would make room if seabs became available
I joked about san jose, but if you look at their numbers with Wallin and Huskins coming off the books, they could probalby squeeze Seabs in at 5.5 or 6 mil, He’d do a whole lot more for Boyle than Murray does.
Ditto for Badgerdano
That's my main concern
it takes only 1 team to bring the big OS for Seabs. SJ scares me the most since we all know their real deficiency coming into 10-11 is on defence. But as you guys pointed out above, Buffalo could be in the picture too.
So it comes down to if the ’Hawks think they have a youngster or two waiting in the wings where they know they can replace Seabs impact and use the money elsewhere, or get him inked during the season for a reasonable price.
I too like your other suggestion of 4 yrs for $20M but don’t know if the ‘Hawks could secure him for that price. My guess right now is he’s in line for something North of $5.5 per on a 4-6 year deal.
Just win the next game...!
I don't think Management
will offer 4 years as this would coincide with Toews & Kane’s contracts ending at that time. My guess is both sides look for 5 years. At the end of that season, Campbell’s contract will be ending. Depending on what kind of contracts Kane & Toews get to stay here, there should be a decent amount of Cap Space available to keep Seabrook.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
With Torchetti heading to Atlanta, what changes will a new PP coach bring?
Specifically, did Torchetti take the clown shoes with him?
Tremendously tremendous
Let's hope so!
Seriously, why did such a talented group of guys with great chemistry have such a hard time scoring on the PP?
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
Maybe they were really trying to take some heat off of the goalie situation
Hey guys if our PP looks really bad the press will talk about that and leave Huet and Nemo alone.
All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity. - Gordie Howe
...and here enters Mike Kitchen...
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Sep 10, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
This is one of the biggest reasons I was happy to see Torchetti go
Just the fact that we could have a potentially killer PP unit got me excited. Hell, I’d settle for an average PK with the talent we have.
I’m going to go on record here and say that this season will be the end of clown shoes.
by Ban on Sep 9, 2010 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
What player will muster enough courage
to tape a “Free Mustache Rides” sign on Q’s office door?
I say Beach.
Quenneville's Mustache Rides
is going into it’s second season as the name of my fantasy hockey team.
Sorry for partying!
Suppose the injury bug hit our D
Who comes in to take the place of lets say Soupy and Biscuit? Stranger things have happened.
"I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country." Hale 1776
the last time Sam said
something about Soupy and getting an injury (he said the meatballs wouldn’t appreciate Soupy until he wasn’t there), it came true a few months later.
I vote they avoid discussing injuries to our Dmen…
Excellent point
But I would like to point out that the injury bug could give some of the young guys a chance to prove they can be studs. And I think we have some studs in the making. Of course, I’m just trying to look for the potential silver lining.
by warrenjm2006 on Sep 10, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Does this silver lining
look like a certain silver chalice we are all very fond of?
by Katherine215 on Sep 10, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Over/Under on Brouwer goals this season
Also: Is this the year Bolland becomes a true number 2 centerman?
I'm not superstitious. I'm just a little stitious.
I say 25
Do we want Bolland on the 2nd line? I know that’s what was intended when the contract was signed, but now that Sharp has proven he’s a very capable centre – and with Sharp on the wing we kinda lack depth on C, even with Potulny – I think he stays on the 3rd line for the majority of the season (Q’s tinkerings will place him on the 2nd line eventually, but it won’t last).
Sharpy at center
Sharp has said time and time again that he likes playing wing rather than center, and I definitely think that Bolland has the skill and grit to play at No. 2. Keep Sharpy on wing, keep Sharpy happy. Besides if you are gonna split up Daydream Nation and throw Brouwer on the first line, a line with Fabulous Weapon surrounded by Sharpy and dat Horsa guy sounds pretty good. (Plus still leaves room to shuffle the lines, as Q so loves to do)
You're not funny, Tom. You're fat, and look as though you should be, but you're not. - Soap, Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
by ByDivineRight on Sep 9, 2010 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess this will be our big pre-season debate
I can’t see how the Hawks could afford to move Sharp back to wing after his success at center last year? Why load all the talent on the top 2 lines, especially during the regular season when you need to spread out the minutes? Plus, it would leave us weak down the middle as centering the 3rd and 4th lines would be in the hands of two guys that have never played a full NHL season between them. On more thing, we’d basically go from being one of the best teams in FO% last year to being one of the worst. I believe Bolland and Potsies are both around 47% at the dot for their careers. Does not compute for me.
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 9, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty much what I think, but with the addendum:
Who cares what Sharp prefers? Buff (apparently) prefers playing D, but it doesn’t mean that’s what’s best for the team.
I think the "time and time again" part is a little unfounded
I’ve heard him say it once, maybe twice that he prefers playing wing, but he said over the the summer that he’s happy with playing center if that’s the role coach Q wants him in. He seemed more or less of proud of his versatility of being a winger/center forward.
too early to thrust bolland back into the number 2 center spot
I say give him another season on the third line. See if his back holds up, see if he continues to improve offensively, get him to improve at the dot. Depth down the middle is a big deal, and the hawks have it with sharp at center. If Bollie can prove he’s ready for it, then later this year or next year, the spot will be waiting for him.
Ditto for Badgerdano
27....
if he gets notable time with 19 & 88. 18 otherwise.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Sep 10, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
What are the chances we will NOT see any pics
of Hawks players in, well, um, unflattering (though cool and enviable) situations?
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Listen to the wisdom of James Madison!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 9, 2010 6:46 PM CDT reply actions
so in other words
What shenanigans will Kane get caught doing this year?
All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity. - Gordie Howe
Yeah pretty much
now that the protagonists in those situations (Steeger and Mad Dog) are gone.
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Listen to the wisdom of James Madison!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 10, 2010 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
My questions,
What are the final standings in the West this year?
What are the FS in the East?
Who is going to play for the chalice of the Hockey Gods?
Will Kop live up to NHL 11’s expectations? How about half?
What game will the Hawks be playing in Hotel rooms this year?
Is there a “guy” that packs up a video game system and sets it up each night?
Can I be that guy?
Including the 20 odd players in AHL, how many different lines can Q-stache create this year?
I have all these questions, and no idea what the future holds. This is gonna’ be fun!
Fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Blackhawks!
Fan of the not 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Isles!
TMFF is a Genius. 'Nuff said.
Only forward lines
We currently have 15 forwards/potential forwards on the roster (13 if you don’t count Hendry & Scott). According to CapGeek, we have 15 non-roster forwards.
It depends on how rigorously you want to define a “line”, but I’m going to say, for example, Kane-Toews-Sharp is different from Kane-Sharp-Toews. For this, you ask how many permuations of 3 items there are in a set of 30. This gives you 24,360 different forward lines, or enough for 240 games & 2 periods if each line is given one 40-second shift together.
Good enough for you, or you want more number-crunching?
So the exact number,
is “a lot”, right? lol
I went with the 20 of so on the off chance that Q decides to Buff a few of the D players in the AHL and try them out on O.
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Fan of the not 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Isles!
TMFF is a Genius. 'Nuff said.
by burpchelischili on Sep 10, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Are you a ghm disciple?
SCH’s version of a Mathlete?
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Fan of the not 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Isles!
TMFF is a Genius. 'Nuff said.
by burpchelischili on Sep 10, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
It's possible
that I’m gmh/VerStig’s kid, but I’ve rebelled against their statistics-ruled world & gone to the maths side.
SCH up close & personal
contrary to popular belief, gmh is strong on math (there’s only one) and, by her own admission, a bit of a stats novice.
i think.
Do I know what rhetorical means?
by cliffkoroll on Sep 10, 2010 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions
It depends on which side of the Atlantic you learned English
as to whether Mathematics is shortened to Math or Maths
541 goals. 1467 points. Stanley Cup. Hall of Fame. All hail our man Stan.
Lotsa questions
(1) How much will Turco’s stats improve on account of (a) having an actual defense in front of him, or (b) his attempts to battle his serious case of the common old?
(2) Who will be the fan disfavorite, as Buff (lazy, not parking himself in front of net during most of regular season) and Sopel (poor handling of puck when not blocking it) are now in the Big Peach?
(3) Who’s got the Hawks’ I-PASS unit?
WAIT FOR THE WHISTLE!
by Sec 326 Bureau Chief on Sep 9, 2010 7:18 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
How well does Stalberg
perform with superior talent around him? Will he blossom into the 20+ goal scoring sniper that his talent suggests he is?
by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Sep 9, 2010 7:42 PM CDT reply actions
Colinsworth
Too much smug in the air tonight.
My Q: will the price of beer at the UC go up, down or stay static?
Afroman likes tall cans.
by OMFS88 on Sep 9, 2010 8:14 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
will sharp or seabrook make the all-star game?
how many games will turco play?
what’s the PP/PK plan?
how long before the first boo at the UC?
will the alcoholics wake up to the insane money-making potential of a CI subscription card?
will kane take a step back after an amazing season, or wiill he entrench himself as an elite player?
point per game guys? kane? hossa? toews? keith? sharp?
Do I know what rhetorical means?
3 month anniversary
It’s been three months since the ‘Hawks ended a 49-year drought … and I’m still drinking up a storm, my liver is starting to hurt, and I really don’t care at this point.
For your viewing pleasure here are some lovely videos:
Patrick Kane’s OT Goal
Toews hoists the Stanley Cup
Toews accepts the Conn Smythe Trophy
Soak it up again, again, and again … Live it. Love it. Let’s fuckin’ do it again!
2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.
by hawks61 on Sep 9, 2010 8:44 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
My Question of the day... well... questions.
Which one of the trivium has drank the most this summer?
Can Crawford (aka. Fitty) have a rookie netminding season reminiscent of Antti Neimi?
Can Jordan Hendry make the same strides in his game like Hjalmarsson did last season?
As a Canadian, am I going to have to listen to the same garbage of how the Vancouver Canucks are the leading contenders to win the West when their goaltender is a fucking rebound machine?
2010 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS
It's been a long journey but in the end it was all worth it, and I wouldn't have ever changed a thing. The feeling is so surreal, yet so real.
Playing against Luongo...
is similar to playing against a pair of pinball flippers.
But damn that team is scary. I know that the Canadian harps about them every year but they have always been pretty weak at defense (pretty much their biggest fault) and now they have added Dan Hamhuis and Keith Ballard, two damn good defensemen. Maybe it will take the pressure off of Sami Salo and his oh-so-fragile groin.
I am, for the first time ever, afraid of that team.
You're not funny, Tom. You're fat, and look as though you should be, but you're not. - Soap, Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
by ByDivineRight on Sep 9, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Why?
Why would anyone be scared of them? Sure they’re great on paper. The Sharks are great on paper too. All it takes is one player to get inside Luongo’s head and it’s game over.
Agreed.
As long as they have the human rebound machine, I’m not scared by the Canadian Scum. (my level of hate has reached that point with them)
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
NHLN is showing the 2nd round CHI vs VAN series this week
The team from vancouer doesnt have what is needed to hold it together through 4 rounds. re-watching those games and taking into account who they’ve added (dan hamhuis has got this..) and who they lost (mitchell was their only dependable presence on the backend when healthy), this team once again does not worry me. when the chips are down, they will fold it up like they do so well.
Fun series to re-watch. Bolland to Toews for the hatty was sweet. That #19 has a pretty quick release.
"...can i have a glass of whiskey and a slice of bread?"
correction
Reboundo…
and I meant games 1 and 5. Fuck, I can’t remember. He had two great games.
Do I know what rhetorical means?
You're forgiven
When we get to watch four rounds of playoff games, you’re going to make a mistake now and again. Here’s to four more rounds this year.
by warrenjm2006 on Sep 10, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions
If it'll make you feel better
The ’nucks played 3 games at HOME vs the ’Hawks this past May, ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY MINUTES of PLAYOFF hockey and never lead in even a fraction of ONE of those minutes…!
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Sep 10, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
luckily
I was far too shitfaced to remember the details of that game
I wake up in the morning and piss ecellence
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
by BigCSouthside on Sep 10, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember
posting my “list of STFU” which told people to not bother posting if they were going to bitch & say that the postseason was over ‘cause there was still plenty of time to turn it around in that game/series. I’m pretty certain that’s the kind of stuff Sam told us to stop later on that series. My bad.
I was at the meetup
getting fucking alcohol poisoning with Trix, Soup, KtG, ahnfire, krome, meeshak and the like. I think at the third period I gave up, stopped watching, went outside, and began the long an unhealthy process of chemically scrubbing the memory of that game from my brain. I’d like to thank John Jameson and Sir Arthur Guinness for their assistance in this matter.
I wake up in the morning and piss ecellence
Bug Chucker Fly Fishing
by BigCSouthside on Sep 10, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
signs of my hockey withdrawl
i was watching a boxing match (well thai boxing, which is more like MMA i guess) and the guy next to me looked away right as one contestant took a kick to the nuts. when he asked me what happened, the only words that came to mind were “He got Salo’d.”.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Sep 10, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Will there be titty?
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 9, 2010 9:16 PM CDT reply actions
life at a vegas show, old school
wow- look at the tits! There must be…57 tits!
Do I know what rhetorical means?
Sure.
Where you been all our life, boy? We been lookin’ for you in Hollywood.
541 goals. 1467 points. Stanley Cup. Hall of Fame. All hail our man Stan.
Boom! I'm a producer.
Finally someone got it.
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 12, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Qvestions
1) What is your best guess at what the forward lines will look like in November (just to give Q some time to get his kinks worked out)? Show your work.
2) Should we look for a sophomore slump from Hjammer after an outstanding first full season?
3) Is the fact that Turco tends to be a rhythm goalie of concern, given that the Hawks don’t allow many shots and Q has a tendency to go switch-happy and kill any rhythm a goalie might have?
4) You are the new PP coach. What do you change from last year, and will this year’s shoes be gigantic and multicolored or smooth blue suede?
5) You are Mike Babcock (I know it’s gross, but bear with me). What would be your game plan for taking down this year’s version of the Hawks? If Babcock is too gross to contemplate, you can be McClellan or Vigneault instead.
by spokeinthebandwagon on Sep 9, 2010 9:22 PM CDT reply actions
Answer/Guesses
1)
Brouwer – Toews – Kane
Sharp – Bolland – Hossa
Stalberg – Potulny – Skille
Bickell – Dowell – Kopecky
Pisani
Keith – Seabrook
Campbell – Hjalmarsson
Boynton – Hendry
Scott
Turco – Crawford
2) Hell no.
3) I don’t think Turco will Huet on us.
4) Don’t you step on my Blue Suede Shoes.
5) RE: Boob Cock, Mclueless, and Vagisil… good luck guys.
Formerly Byfuglie33
So the Q forward line generator 2.0 must be fully functional already, eh?
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 9, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes
pre-season scrubber. I’m going apeshit.
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 10, 2010 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions
With Potulny now
how long will Bolland stay as the third line center? —same idea, how long does Sharpie stay at center (assumedly) on the second line?
You must have me confused with someone else, I have never been to Chicago.
[whispers] I sexually assaulted Scottie Pippen in 1997.
I for one would love to see Sharpie
go back to the LW, but hey that’s just me.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Sep 10, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
- With the current roster do you feel that the best place for Sharp/Bolland is 2nd/3rd line center?
- Although there will obviously be a lot of line juggling, do you think Q will try to spread out the talent on the forward lines or go with a more top-heavy lineup?
- Will we witness the return of gmh and VerStig or revert back to the eye test, 10 month calendar, Swedish Erotica, and chiseling our comments onto the screen?
- Aside from a couple of ogres and a few decent-sized players, have the Hawks gone all-in this offseason in the belief that “speed over size wins Cups in the new NHL”?
- With the Cup in hand, have we outgrown the “little brother” inferiority complex or will nimrods still be chanting “Detroit Sux” and the like before/during non-scum games?
- Who does Dirt borrower more CD’s from, McClure or Sam? Who does he borrower more porn from? Does Jungle Booty mysteriously get returned with the Jungle Book video in it place?
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 9, 2010 10:04 PM CDT reply actions
we back!
sweet jesus i’ve missed yous guys. and hockey. mmmmmm hockey. baseball blows.
1. wins, how many?
2. how many points takes the west?
3. biggest games (chance to expound on other teams that might be of substance this year)
4. how do i keep my hawks mojo when i’m spending the whole season in LA and just got a 10 gm tix pack (at least i got both hawks games)?
5. i know he was fat and lazy and only occasionally tried, but goddammit i loved buff (probably because those three adjectives kind of cover me as well). who gets my redirected admiration, and it doesn’t have to be someone who does (or doesn’t do) the same things buff did?
6. whats would be the worst thing that could forseeably happen this year? besides Q shaving the stache? (and i mean, something that could happen, not magically becoming as woeful as the Oilers)
7. along those lines, worst case scenario for the season- divisional finish, getting pantsed by the blues, these kinds of things.
(i don’t want to be negative, but those who know the team best can criticize it the best and i’m trying to set that up)
8. is nush still alive?
the crew never left but came back
Is The Hockey News lost in the forest or certifiably out of this universe crazy for suggesting the Hawks finish 4th in the West?
After the season starts, will I be reading and posting at 4 am more or less?
“i hope you like second place, you’ll have to settle, for consolation prizes and bronze medals…”
I think 4th is very possible
And I wouldn’t be too upset with it. I think the Hawks aren’t going to be so dominant in the regular season, partly because it could take some time for everyone to get used to playing together, and Scum have gotten better. I could live with losing the division but still f’ing folks up in the playoffs.
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
Will Marian Hossa have the stones...
… to wear white shoes on the red carpet after Labor Day?
I'm confused
I kind of get what Labour Day is (quasi-socialist celebration of “the workers” or something), but why aren’t you allowed to wear white after it? How long does this last? A month? Until the end of the year?
Until Memorial Day in late May
When we read eulogies in remembrance of all the teams we’ve beaten on our way to another Cup.
Lord Stanley's new address: Sweet Home Chicago!
by ChicagoNativeSon on Sep 10, 2010 8:05 AM CDT up reply actions
Not wearing white is some
fashion rule. I think you can start wearing it again in the spring.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Unless you're Marian Hossa
Then you wear it whenever the fuck you want.
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
cdz is right
it’s an antiquated fashion rule meant to signal summer is over. Since summer is still usually (except this year) still being a bitch after Labor Day, it’s kind of gone by the wayside. though I’m sure some crazy fashionista would disagree with me.
by Katherine215 on Sep 10, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Love / Hate
I love that your Headline that says I’m right
I hate the fact that it has to do with fashion and not hockey.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
1) If Turco has hot streaks, do they let him play until he cools off a bit, or will management try to stick to the 50-60 game starts for his sake and Crawford’s?
2) What if Crawford doesn’t pan out as a backup? Would they give Toivonen a shot before looking for a trade?
3) Who, of the new guys, will have the best playoff beard?
4) Could Sharp hit 30 goals this year, or is he going to be half-sniper, half-play maker again (i.e. 20-25 goals)?
5) Am I the only one that expects Hendry to improve considerably? I have the feeling he will have an good year, what with all the experience he gained in 2009-2010.
They better hive Toivonen a shot
He impressed me moreso then Crawford last year, I attend about 1 icehogs game a week.
Furthermore
The GM was down in Rockford for Blackhawks day… Toivonen was playing against the Hogs. Toivonen was a Hog the next day. That says something…
My questions
-Will Turco receive the same treatment from the meatheads at the UC as Huet?
-Who will be the top goal scorer/points leader?
And 1 Trivia Question for anyone
-Before Sharpies 36 goal season in 07-08 who was the last one to score 30?
2009-2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Chicago Blackhawks
Yeah those damn calanders are fun
I can’t remember some of them but it’s a good way to freshen my memory. It’s sad coming to work knowing the only thing to look forward to is the trivia question of the day or “fact of the day”
2009-2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Chicago Blackhawks
Dilbert and SCH bring me to work each day.
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
How could I forget SCH?
It’s practically the first thing I sign into when I come in
2009-2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Chicago Blackhawks
Do you foresee
The off-season forward signings making up for a fair amount of the goal production lost in the exits from Verstig/Buff/Ladd/Madden, and if not, do you see Toews, Kane, Hossa, Sharp bumping up their numers?
Also, do you see Hossa returning to 40 goal form?
Some Questions.
1. Who makes Kesler look like a bitch now that Ladd is gone?
2. Will Burrows pull hair this season?
3. What are the odds we beat Vancouver in 6….again?
4. Could it be anymore annoying that pundits are saying Vancouver is the team to beat this year?
19-88-81-2-7-10-36-4-51 : The Hawks
1. Anyone who fights him
2. A bitch doesn’t change his ways
3. Great, if we play them
4. No, fuck those guys
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
My thoughts exactly. I was thinking maybe we could send John Scott out against Kesler-Burrows-The Children of the Corn and O’Brian and just let them royally rumble.
I take Scott. His hair is too high up for Burrows to reach rendering him a nonfactor. The COTC would run away and Kesler would go down immediately. That leaves Scott to kick O’Brian’s ass.
19-88-81-2-7-10-36-4-51 : The Hawks
Not to ruin your vision or anything
But that make-believe Vancouver line has 4 forwards and one defenseman.
"I have only space enough to add: against the assault of desperate pandas nothing can stand."
-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)
by HungryHungryPanda on Sep 10, 2010 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
i find #4
delicious, not annoying.
Do I know what rhetorical means?
by cliffkoroll on Sep 10, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
OK...
1. Scott (just so I can hear Foley say ‘ragdoll’ during the fight like he did with the Probert/Kimball fight years ago.
2. Not if he wants to skate off the ice under his own power.
3. 2:1; 1:1 they complete the playoff elimination hat-trick 1 chance in 2 they do it in 6 again.
4. No actually. Let it continue. Think how much pressure that puts on Bobbi-Lu.
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Sep 10, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Questions:
1) Kane’s points, over/under 90? I think we all know Toews will never stop wanting to improve and collect Cups, but will Kane possibly let up juuuuuuuuust a bit, considering he shut up a lot of his naysayers already, by winning a Cup and leading US players in scoring? I ask that, because it was mentioned that Kane will use what happened last offseason, and the subsequent trash talk about him, as motivation to get bigger/faster and kick dicks in…which he did. So, will he improve/level off/regress a touch, this season?
2) What’s the expected decible level of a meathead “booo”(s) the first time Turco allows a softy at the UC? Followed by, expected amounts of “We shoulda kept Anttiiiiiiiiiiiiii!” to come spewing forth?
3) A hosptial? What is it?
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
That’s “hospital”. I don’t know what a “hosptial” is. Now, the joke is ruined. RUINED.
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
Patients my ass,
I’m going to kill something! – Dr. Kevorkian
Fan of the 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Blackhawks!
Fan of the not 2010 Stanley Cup Champion Isles!
TMFF is a Genius. 'Nuff said.
by burpchelischili on Sep 10, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
At what point in the season will the average age of Scum surpass the average age of dirt?
by spokeinthebandwagon on Sep 10, 2010 9:46 AM CDT reply actions
When they sign Bill Guerin
Chicago Blackhawks - 2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Things have changed forever, we're the Ramblin' Boys of Pleasure
I like the signing.
Touche Stan.
When in Rome we shall do as the Romans, when in Hell we do shots at the bar.
by HolyBlackhawksBatman on Sep 10, 2010 10:01 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
What is the empirical/statistical evidence for
the expected “being with a good team bump” people are expecting out of players like Stalberg, Potulny, et al.
Is there evidence supporting this theory or are we all in for a big let down in terms of our expectations for these players?
Also, why is the floor in the seating area of the UC always so damn sticky? Can anyone recommend a good cleaning product to the maintenance staff?
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
What will happen to Willie Mitchell?
Troy Brouwer?
Right handed people live, on average, nine years longer than left handed people.
Do we begin to see the effects of age on Marian Hossa's game?
He will be 32 mid season.
OR
Does the “I’m Marian Hossa and you’re not” affect take full hold and produce a mammoth season from our favorite android in his first full, healthy season in the indian head sweater?
[If we get the “growing up” bump expected out of Toews and Kane plus a big bounce back from injury/surgery full season out of Hossa those three could ride roughshod over the league. It’s sure great to be a Hawks fan these days.]
"Life is a long lesson in humility."
- James M. Barrie
How many licks
does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop?
If a John Scott falls in the forest
but there is no one there to hear it, did it really make a sound?
Does ben Eager try to beat up everyone on the team when we play Atlanta Nov 6th?
This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.
I think he might
which is why you’ll see John Scott (aka, “Chief” of ‘One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest’ fame, it’s the nickname I’m trying out for him…maybe so I can just yell, “Take it to the net CHIEF!”) dressed for that game.
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
Both of these are good.
Although Bane could have some better quotes/photoshops
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
well i'll let you know. I'll be at the game. Maybe I should make a sign that say Chicago still loves you Buff Ladd Sopel.
This is over. You can go ahead and order the autopsy now.
Stick with the Randall
on this one.
"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."
Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010
"What a ballclub!"
I just imagine the rest of the Hawks having the same reaction McMurphy (Nicholson’s character) had when they meet…“Goddamn boy, you’re as big as a mountain!”
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
"Somebody get me a fuckin’ weiner before my throat gives out."
"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."
Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010
I'll tell you why...
I’m not sure why people such as Sassone are confused by this and the Pisani signing.
Sassone doesn’t strike me as “dean of hockey writers” as so many have anointed him as over the years. He has far too many brain farts on stuff like this which makes me believe he’s just the Herald’s version of ABC7’s Jim Rose.
Just win the next game...!
I'd give
Bob Verdi that title before anyone else. I’ve never not enjoyed anything he’s written on the Hawks.
"What the hell, let's review it." - Dale Tallon
"They are!" - Pat Foley
"What a farce." - Dale Tallon
Too bad Verdi isn't a beat writer
instead of a columnist…
Just win the next game...!
by blackhawk24 on Sep 10, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Verdi's stuff is always gold.
Not only is the content worth reading, but he’ such a strong writer too.
Is the glass
half empty or half-full?
I think Kaner would say “it’s half-empty, broseph! Top me off!”
by ben9599 on Sep 10, 2010 12:02 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
if you had the option
of going to a spa at a women’s prison and getting a massage given by one of the inmates, would you take it?
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
Only if it was a mimimum security joint in Connecticut and
the inmate was Martha Stewart.
No... god no
I am social worker who has to regularly take children to see mom in prison… I hate doing this. Women go nuts when I walk in and say the raunchiest shit to me. Sometimes they will just sit and stare through the windows sticking there tongues out and shit at me. 99 percent of them are god awful ugly.
Its interesting though…
You can tell that some of them used to be hot
Especially the Latin Women but yeah it just destroys you.
There is a sterotype of male prisoners being all ripped, some of them are but alot of them are fat as fuck. The diets suck and you can only feed yourself in a healthy manner if you have alot of clout (people give you the healthy parts of the meal)
You're the first
person I’ve “known” to have a thing for Martha Stewart. Does she remind you of your mother?
39 years of pain vaporized by one OT goal. (1971 loss to Habs)
Perhaps, a bit.
Any other questions, Dr. Freud?
Do you work on a sliding scale?
This couch isn’t very comfortable, BTW.
I'd have to be pretty fucking drunk
But I’ve done worse when I have blacked out
2009-2010 Stanley Cup Champions
Chicago Blackhawks
Any woman would be very happy to still look that good
approaching age 70.
I don’t care how much money she has. All the money in the world can’t hide a crappy face. Ask Nancy Pelosi. Same age but she looks like she was shot out of a cannon, even after all those tax-payer-funded Botox treatments.
Just win the next game...!
If you had to pick one Blackhawk...
…to design and construct a 1/64 scale model of the Sears Tower out of hockey pucks, who would it be and why?
I would pick Hjalmarsson b/c he he probably built his own IKEA furniture and has developed Buddha-like patience playing with Campbell.
by ben9599 on Sep 10, 2010 1:39 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
now that's boneheaded...
Buff at least has some potential on offense.
Over/Under on the number of times hockey bloggers pre-empt the meat of their posts with "And here.. we.. go."
Dark Knight was great, we know, but holy fuck. I have seen this countless times in the last year on various blogs. This one included.
Tremendously tremendous
Batman Begins > The Dark Knight
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
It wasn't horrible writing
It wasn’t horrible writing, but the dark knight kicks it’s ass. Batman Begins seems so good because before that movie, the last image we had of Batman was this:
Adam West played a more serious Batman for Christ’s sakes!
There are only two seasons in Chicago; Hockey and Construction.
Bad writing in Batman Begins?
Why bother seeing The Dark Knight? I liked Batman Begins more because I thought the story of his origin made for a better movie. Also it didn’t jump around like The Dark Knight. Don’t get me wrong, I liked The Dark Knight but I didn’t buy into all of the hype before it was released. I found Maggie Gyllenhaal to be far more annoying than Katie Holmes. For me, there wasn’t enough of Batman in the story and there was too much time wasted on the Bruce Wayne / Rachel Dawes / Harvey Dent relationship.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Batman Begins was a great take on the origins of Batman
No doubt about that. And I thought the movie was great when I first saw it. But after watching Dark Knight and rewatching Batman Begins, it seemed like the writing improved drastically in the sequel. Maybe that’s why Katie Holmes seemed to suck so bad. I’m not a fan of Maggie Gyllenhaal either (bordering on “can’t stand to watch her act”) but I thought she did a better job with the role. I’m actually semi-willing to concede that Begins had a better story, but DK to me had a better villain, better writing, and better action.
Also, holy shit I don’t remember Batman/Robin’s costumes looking like that in Batman & Robin.
That Batman & Robin movie was horrible.
It might be the worst movie made in the 90s. I would have walked out of the theater but my kids didn’t want to leave.
Anyway, I’ll stick with Batman Begins with it having a better story and writing. You’re right about the villain and there was more action in The Dark Knight.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
who ...
of the new men in town will have the hottest new nickname in 2010-11?
I bet Stalberg will get the "hottest" nickname.
All hockey players are bilingual. They know English and profanity. - Gordie Howe
JUST A SEC'!! HEY!!!
Who will be the most realistic Blackhawk player to reach 30Gs FIRST in the 2010-11 season? Kane? Toews? Hossa? Sharp? Someone else?
Which Blackhawk will have a “career year” and who will have a “breakout year”?
Will Joel Quenneville be up for the Jack Adams Award this season as a serious candidate or will Barry Trotz finally win it after years and years?
Which Blackhawk “rookie” will have more playing time with the big club between them this 2010-11 season? Jack Skille, “The Edmonton Transplants”, or Corey Crawford?
Have you seen Turco’s mask? Isn’t it bad-ass!?
WHOS READY FOR SOME DEFENDING STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONSHIP HOCKEY!?!?
LETS GO HAWKS!!!
LETS GO HAWKS!!!!!!
"It's The Chicago Blackhawks, man." ~ Jeremy Roenick, June 9th, 2010.
Questions
1) 3rd pair defense, if the trio of Boynton, Hendry, Scott should falter… who is most qualified/likely to jump in from Rockford?
2) Who will our 4 centers be?
3) Who will “shine” brightest in the Rookie Tournament starting tonight at 6:00PM?
4) Will Jack Skille make the opening night roster?
5) How many wins will Turco get this year?
Formerly Byfuglie33
I have only one question at this time
The Hawks are in Atlanta on November 6th. I just received an invitation for a Family Reunion for the same day.
My question is how do I get out of going to the Family Reunion without being cut out of anyone"s will?
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
take everyone to Atlanta for the Family Reunion
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by chiblackhawks on Sep 11, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
What a great idea
It would only put me back about $50k and I’d have spend even more time with my relatives. Thanks but no thanks.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
I don't know
with my luck, I’ll end up getting it and I’ll be the first to admit I’m a big baby when I get sick.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Questions
- Who will be the first rookie to get the call up from Rockford?
- Which departed Hawk will have the best season for his new team?
- Gut feeling— who misses time for injuries this season?
- What will be the single most divisive issue among Hawk fans this season?
- How many All Star selections do the Hawks get?
- Who takes the blame if the Hawks get off to a slow start?
Is Kyle Beach worth the risk of bringing up to the NHL, with the bagagge he will almost for sure bring with?
ART.I§8-11; AM I-XXVII Not a suggestion, but an obligation.
Listen to the wisdom of James Madison!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Sep 12, 2010 10:28 AM CDT reply actions
agreed here
he’s just too immature at this point, which he’s already displayed multiple times this off season.
happy ninja is happy....and wants to share its new toy!
by puppetmasterp on Sep 12, 2010 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
My massive reply-fail Qs
From the other thread:
- Which of the new players (via trade) makes the most impact? Which is most disappointing?
- Which of the guys that were in Rockford last year makes the most impact? Which is most disappointing?
- Will any of these players make us forget about Ladd, Versteeg, Buff, Madden, Soepl et al? Which one of those players will we miss the most?
- Which of the core players will have a crazy good season? Which one will we want to expel from the core?
- What’s the over/under on another 100 point season?
- What kind of champagne should I buy now to prepare for another cup win in June?
- Will Sharp win the sexiest Chicago athlete? Will any other ’hawk challenge for the crown?
Yet another question
Does the NHL have a problem? Currently the Caps play in the SE division, which practically guarantees them winning the President’s Trophy again, purely by virtue of the fact that every other team in their division sucks. While the cap has helped parity, it hasn’t solved the problem that some teams play very easy seasons and some teams play difficult (specifically, the Central and Pacific look to be close). Other than retooling the division structures, is there a solution to the problem of certain teams coasting to a playoff berth while others fight against a much more difficult schedule?
by spokeinthebandwagon on Sep 14, 2010 12:15 PM CDT reply actions
is this an advantage?
seems to me team that are battle-tested are better off come playoff time. I always thought this was part of the Bears’ problem in the late ’80s.
btw- how about that dismantling of the Lions?
Do I know what rhetorical means?
you mean that wasn't a bad dream?
the Bears really did deserve to lose to the Lions?
by Katherine215 on Sep 14, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Most important question:
Which factor contributes to the overall improved attractiveness of the team: the addition of Viktor Stalberg or the departure of Brent Sopel?
Bonus question: Who should Patrick Sharp select as his new roommate/partner-in-crime given the departure of his previous hetero-lifemate Adam Burish?
by SharpDressedMan on Sep 14, 2010 12:54 PM CDT reply actions
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