Atop The Sugar Pile - 10/27
by Killion on Oct 27, 2011 11:38 AM CDT
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Oh hey... remember when we used to write these on a (semi) weekly basis? Well we've seen 8 hockey games with 3 more coming up quickly and we're too lazy to think of a new idea for a weekly roundup. With Halloween right around the corner, lets all dive head first into a whole pile of high fructose corn syrup and other things that will most certainly kill us all, shall we?
The Terrifying Lows
Rostislav Olesz - This guy has played so little that I'm still not 100% sure how to pronounce his name. Although listening to a half in the bag Foley try and stumble through it might not help me much either. It's not quite far to put him in this category and it's not exactly about his play so much as it is about his place on this team. I don't expect him to crack the line-up any time soon and that $3Million+ cap is pretty painful for a constant healthy scratch.
The Dizzying Highs
He's Marian Hossa... You're Not - We were expecting a strong start from Hoss and he certainly hasn't disappointed us so far. His 5 goals lead the Hawks and he's on pace for a point a game. Beyond that he's playing the strong physical game we've seen in the past and always seems to be right in the thick of things no matter which zone. He's also fourth on the team in hits, did you know that? I doubt he can keep up this pace for a full season but it'll still be pretty damn fun to watch
The Experiment - I was concerned about moving Patrick Kane to center, how could you not be? He's one of the most skilled players in the league, this we know. But would it be a good idea to take one of the most dangerous wingers and put him in an uncomfortable position and give him the extra responsibilities that generally come with playing in the middle? Well, with 2 goals, 6 assists, a +4 and a 56% winning percentage at the draw it certainly seems Q hit the jackpot. Kane has been in "Fuck You" mode all season so far and it doesn't show signs of slowing just yet.
A Whole Lot Else - I didn't want to ramble on in this section but there is a lot to like so far in these 8 games. Carbomb looks to actually have his head on straight and is a great addition to the two players mentioned above, Jonathan Toews is still a monster, Patrick Sharp is back as a sniper and a point per game and Brent Seabrook is destroying worlds with only a stare.
The Creamy Middles
D2K - He caused a little concern at the start of the season but it appears that Duncs is on his way back to the top of his game. Things haven't been perfect but his last few games have been solid performances, even if the pairings don't still make sense. I expect Keith to make to highs section before too long.
Andrew Brunette - Brunette is at the bottom of the pack with a -2 rating but he does have 4 points too. A 40 point season would be nice from many players but it would also be Brunette's lowest production since 1998. The Brunette signing makes sense for many reasons but there are a lot of questions if the slow skater can keep up with the fast pace of the Hawks.
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Good stuff
How about a little Nick Leddy love?
I’m starting to have long thoughts about Brunette. He does some nice things, but, he is sooo slow, he’s definitely a defensive liability, unlike Quenneville’s preferred “two way” guys (Toews, Bolland, Hossa, Sharp, Kane, Frolik, Bickell.)
Still rather have Brunette for $2 mildo than Brouwer for $2.5 or, heaven forfend, Kopecky for $3 million, but there appear to be two spots in the top-6 there for the taking still.
Although neither one may need to be a center, on accounta the Devli Child looking to make another huge stride in his game this year (just like two years ago.) I’ve always considered Kaner a full notch below Toews, and it doesn’t hurt having Hossa on your wing (doesn’t hurt Hossa either having Kane as his center), but that little fucker may change my mind this year.
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agreed on Kaner
i was wary at the start too but he has shown to be more than capable with room to grow. this will help immensely as we can pick up a top 6 wing if need be at the deadline. if we can move olesz while doing this, phenomenal!
Turco was good, but Crawford has a force field...
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Oct 27, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I suppose I get all this wishing for another top 6 forward
but jeez, folks, these guys don’t grow on trees. Most teams would be thrilled to have 2 top-6 type guys; we have 5 (actually, we have 6, but 3-6 serves our needs so much better where he’s at — he’d be anchoring the 2nd line pretty much anywhere else in the league).
An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)
it's also worth mentioning...
that we have a ton of potential replacements on the top 6 in the coming months/year (Pirri, Morin, Saad and even Beach seems to have screwed his brain on semi-straight)
I think Morin's on the way here
as long as he proves he’s not suffering any more aftereffects from his concussion, the kid is going to make an appearance, sooner rather than later (I hope).
well
the cap space is there, unlike last year, when the discussion was moot.
The Hawks are definitely contenders this year, but I’d put several teams ahead of them right now. Overall, I don’t see the current roster as obviously better than last year- deeper and more balanced, but minus Brian Campbell’s skill.
Two years ago, the Hawks were favorites or near-favorites all season long, and rightfully so. I wasn’t around in 1961, but the 2009-10 team, IMO, was pretty clearly the best Hawks team in my lifetime. It was a lot of fun. Remember?
Of course, top-6 forwards don’t grow on trees. If they did, they wouldn’t be so expensive. But it is hardly far-fetched to hope for something like this. The Hawks are an attractive destination for someone who wants to win a Cup, and one more top-6 forward puts them right back in the “near favorite/favorite” camp, IMO.
Considering what the move would mean in terms of expected $ due to higher probability of advancing deep in the playoffs, the move is a financial no-brainer if the Hawks can find the right guy. If they end the season with $2+ million in unused cap space, I would think Hawk management would view this as a financial failure. So, it’s not just “nice to have” daydreaming- Stan has to look at this as prolly his #1 priority.
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posted before i read your post.
said i what i wanted to say in a much better way. at least i know i’m not alone. heh
Turco was good, but Crawford has a force field...
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Oct 27, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
agree with this..
we were looking at the Free Agents etc and not seeing much but look at the Booth move.. who saw that coming? Picking up someone in that (or above) wage bracket would be a great thing for this team..
enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I for one don’t think the Booth move makes Vancouver better. They get a bit more grit, but they lose something on the PP and get a guy who is a potential liability on defense. It’s not like they needed more lazy forwards on that roster either. If anything, it increases Kesler’s responsibilities on defense, which hopefully hurts his O game.
All this talk about another forward (which I complete agree is needed)
A couple of thoughts to add:
I have a feeling that if Stan can make a move well in advance of the trade deadline, he will. I doubt having “this much” cap space was part of the plan. $3M in cap space “now” gets you about a $10M player prorated at the deadline. I doubt those players are lying around, and anyways, it would cost a fortune in prospects for that rental. So even for a “realistically high end” player at the deadline, the Hawks only need about half the cap space they currently have.
But if Stan pulls the trigger early, again due to proration, only a mid-range “role player” would likely be in the cards. Though maybe with the right pieces going both ways, it could be something more than just a rental player.
IMO, they should also save some space for another 5-6 d-man. If one of the defensemen went down, even if were someone like OD, they’re only one player away from depending on Scott as the 6th man. Cheap defensemen are usually available at the deadline and it would make sense for the Hawks to grab one. Scott would somehow be gone (trade or waived) at that point and with the expanded playoff roster, carrying 8 d-men wouldn’t be an issue.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Oct 27, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I think I would disagree
with your roster isn’t better statement. Soup was great – and I liked his game and what he did inhelping get a cup here – but man for man the defensemen are better than what we put on the ice. I am not sure I like the Leddy/Keith combination but it keeps getting better, Keith is far better so far this year than last. Leddy is a keeper.
The forward lines are improved as well. Frolick is a huge upgrade and Carbomb has been amazingly good – I am shocked to even type that. Brunette is a legitimate concern – I am worried that his speed is too big of a liability. Good guy, plays hard, but speed just is, and he isn’t.
I think the roster overall is both deeper and better witha better goalie combo to boot. They are first in goal differential in the West, and also number one in GPG as well.
As the defense settles in I expect even better numbers there. They are the favorite out of the West IMHO. Of course, one big injury to the wrong guy and forget about that.
I'm Lloyd Pettit's love child!
Of course, one big injury to the wrong guy and forget about that.
This got me to thinking. If, God forbid, one or both of our top guys went down for an extended period (I won’t name names for fear of a jinx but you all know who I mean) I think we all realize that just making the playoffs would probably be a struggle.
Yet I see those damn Penguins sitting atop the league, and still without Crosby and Malkin, and I have to wonder how they’re doing it. Is it coaching, their system, organizational depth, a combination of all three plus other factors? I just can’t figure it out.
I look at their roster and it doesn’t seem that much superior to ours in terms of overall talent. Yet if our top guys suddenly disappeared from the team for a long period I just can’t see us still battling for the top spot in the conference.
Any theories or thoughts out there? Because I just don’t get it.
"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter
I have no idea what the hell just happened but my entire comment except for the title disappeared, and posted twice. WTF?
Oh, just forget it.
Damn new fangled gadgets!
BAH!
"Against logic there is no armor like ignorance."
- Laurence J. Peter
i get that we are spoiled
by the talent we have in our top 6. with the rise of kane at c, wing is the only obvious position to upgrade. i suppose we could add a D man but we have plenty of those. if injuries hit, i could see a center or D being added.. let’s hope that doesn’t happen. if we are healthy at the trade deadline, it only makes sense to add another winger.
Turco was good, but Crawford has a force field...
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Oct 27, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to mention
Crawford. Great start; no sophomore slump at least so far.
Really, there is very little to complain about. Feels pretty good!
It's on, bitches.
Tweeping as @ehirtens
crawford has been outstanding.
the majority of his allowed goals are not on him. imho, he’s been the best netminder so far when you remove the early season def. brain farts that led to easy goals.
Turco was good, but Crawford has a force field...
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Oct 27, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Only thing I would complain about would be the PP. That and the fact we haven’t been tested against the elite teams in the league just yet. But we are beating the bad teams this year, that’s something we were next to awful at last season.
yup
I thought that exactly.. what cost us last year was losing to the likes of the Oil rather than tilts with the big guys..
enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
While our team last year was certainly less skilled than this year
I definitely noticed a propensity for last year’s team to play down to our opponents…cup hangover, team chemistry, whatever it was, we definitely lacked focus in the games we should have and needed to win.
I'm a pimp, and pimps don't commit suicide.
100% correct
we weren’t knocking over the “easy” ones which made, for instance, that game against the Bruins, when we were knackered from (if I remember rightly) a back-to-back with Scum, so vitally important near the end of last season.. we should have been stomping into those games with “We’re The Fucking Champions… And You’re Not” tattooed on our foreheads.. and, for various reasons we didn’t..
enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd like to point out that a couple of sad "bad teams"
aren’t exactly playing so poorly right now. The Avs and the Stars, against whom the ‘Hawks are 2-1-1, are 2 of the hottest teams in the league to start the season and currently sit atop their respective divisions. Will they finish there? Probably not, but point is right now they’re both playing as well as any other team in the league not based in DC and the ’Hawks have taken 5 of a possible 8 points in those 4 games, only losing in regulation once.
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by FrankStallone on Oct 27, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
you can pop the Oil in there too..
but they sure as hell weren’t so shit-hot last season. And you’re right.. we’ve done well.. and the regulation loss involved a Goaltending Masterclass
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I haven't watched an Dallas games since the 'Hawks started the season with 2 against them
but the Stars had absolutely no business winning that first one. Lehtonen absolutely stole that game with a brilliant performance.
There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.
by FrankStallone on Oct 27, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
that's it..
that damn puck just wouldn’t go in the damn net..
and last year we’d have ended up giving up a third-period goal to the Jets to lose.. that was how that cookie crumbled..
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Lehtonen has been a rock for them (thankfully on my fantasy team)
He’s 6-0 but it wont last.
We made it to Oct 7th, now it's time for the march to June!
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
plus they're not getting hosed at the end of games
cannot count the number of times they lost games at the back end of the 3rd period last year, it was an epidemic of break – downs, and it started early and lasted for the duration. Already they’ve been clamping down (except for the Ducks game) well near the end and giving themselves opportunities to win close or tie games in regulation. I think this bodes well as we go into the long marathon still to come.
it's "the more you know" day
the term “for the duration” dates from The Big One. That’s right, double-u, double-u, two.
We like our people!
I did not know that
but so many awesome terms did come out of that awful war – I believe FUBAR was just one of many.
see
there’s an RAF term….
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Sierra Hotel,
one of my favorites.
There is a problem with outliving your enemies, it usually means that you have outlived your friends as well...
Honnor thy father - D. Vader (Robert Asprin, Myth series)
by burpchelischili on Oct 28, 2011 1:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Not so sure the Elite are Elite anymore
The Stars and Av’s are both at the top pf the heap in the West, and yes, I realize it’s early but though are both playing solid hockey. We have beaten both and obviously lost the opener at Dallas.
The Canucks, and Sharks are off to slow starts, Detroit has stumbled a bit but I giess we all know how those stories usually turn out at the end.
I wouldn't call what Detroit did stumbling
They won 5 in a row then lost 2 starting their backup in both games. From what I heard, Howard had a kid and has been with the wife for the past few days. They win their next game and they move ahead of us.
Avs and Stars won’t keep this up long. Especially the Stars. Lehtonen will fall back down to earth soon. The Avs should make the playoffs but I see them more as a 6-8 seed. San Jose and Vancouver will both be back up there sooner than later.
last season...
Dallas started 16-8-1; Colorado began 19-10-4
Can we add the PP to the Terrifying Lows?
Right now we’re converting at something like 13% per PP opportunity. Even more mind boggling, our 5×5 shot percentage is about 9.7%, while our 5×4 shot percentage is about 8.8%. Right now it would be statistically logical for Q to beg the refs to let him decline PP chances.
Speaking of statistically unsustainable, right now we have exactly 50% as many SH goals as PP goals. Now if we could keep that ratio when the PP stops actively blowing goats, it’s going to be a very good season.
by Steeg of their own on Oct 27, 2011 12:30 PM CDT reply actions
We could...
But the PK is rad, and last time we had that dynamic going, we won a certain cup.
by ForAllYouYoungHockeyMoms on Oct 27, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Calling all amateur sleuths
Great article by an anonymous player questioning the NHL and Brendan Shanahan. Who is this mystery player?
I hate you
We can rule out
Phanuef and Kronwall. Your welcome for putting that much closer.
I'm a pimp, and pimps don't commit suicide.
I think
it is Scott.
There is a problem with outliving your enemies, it usually means that you have outlived your friends as well...
Honnor thy father - D. Vader (Robert Asprin, Myth series)
by burpchelischili on Oct 27, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
considering how well written it was,
i would not be surprised. then again, editing can fool you.
Turco was good, but Crawford has a force field...
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Oct 27, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Not Scott.
He’s unlikely to be carrying the puck across the blue line, like the writer. It’s gotta be a guy who plays a fair amount of minutes.
An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)
But didn't he say
“if I carry the puck” in the article? not “when.”
There is a problem with outliving your enemies, it usually means that you have outlived your friends as well...
Honnor thy father - D. Vader (Robert Asprin, Myth series)
by burpchelischili on Oct 27, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
orignal draft
“From my vantage point, I see guys carrying the puck across the blue line all the time with their heads down, or so it appears. I often pause from eating my Super Nachos to pick up my binocs for a closer look”
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by hairhelmet on Oct 27, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
funn-neee!
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
winner!
Turco was good, but Crawford has a force field...
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Oct 27, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
Great article, and a sign that Shanahan has legitimacy in the eyes of the players despite some of the grumbling we’ve heard.
It makes sense to me that players would by and large welcome this anyway. It’s like we saw with steroids in baseball. Obviously head shots aren’t directly analogous to steroids, but it makes sense that where player health and the image of the game are an issue, the majority of players will welcome efforts to do something about it.
it _is_ a great article..
and refreshing to see the Pro’s view.. I especially like the way he doesn’t sweat legislating against the “dishonourouble 1-2%”.. and his ideas about players looking out for each other out of mutual respect.
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
d'oh
forgot that formatting don’t work in the titles..
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Based on how well it's written, I'd say Harvard alum Dom Moore.
Second City Hockey
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame
or
Princeton Alumnus George Parr ..naaah…
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, Parros was my first thought.
Western Conference (in his previous article, both Doughty and Tkatchuk are WC players that he uses for examples), Ivy education, and he was a NHLPA rep, which might make the poke at Schneider’s acting abilities an inside joke.
Adams is a good guess too, though.
by Steeg of their own on Oct 27, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Gotta be Craig Adams
Went to Harvard, specifically called out Kronwall. Moore wouldn’t have pulled that name among the many big hitters, right? He only played for a tiny bit in the Western Conference, while Adams would have a lot of familiarity with Kronwall based on his time with the ’Hawks.
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by HungryHungryPanda on Oct 27, 2011 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm with you
If i had to guess, I’d say Craig Adams.
this combination of ballet and murder ♥
Twittars!
I dunno..
it looked like he maybe pulled a big giver of hits from both Conferences just to help with the anonymity…
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I’m basing my guess on attitude, love of the term “gutless”, and complexity of idea, plus his earlier article gave me a Craig Adams vibe as well. The whole Kronwall thing is moot.
this combination of ballet and murder ♥
Twittars!
OK..
whoever he is, i like him!
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Since Phaneuf
spent 5 seasons with the Flames, I’d guess that it’s more likely that he’s from the Western Conference.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
My guess is that it's someone on Scum.
He kind of defends Smith’s hit on Smith. Refers to Shanahan as “Shanny”. Then writes “If I was playing against the Detroit Red Wings,” There’s something about the use of “If I was” in this line. “If I am” would seem more appropriate.
If I was going to guess the player I’d go with Bertuzzi only because he’s the last person that should be talking about head shots.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
Also a high
Vancouver currently out of a playoff spot despite more games played than anyone else in the West. Still early of course, but as we saw last year, those early holes can be a bitch to crawl out of when your GP column is higher than everyone else.
by Brian C on Oct 27, 2011 12:44 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Nothing can quite put a smile on my face in the morning
like seeing the ’nucks shutout by the Blues- my friends for the time being.
meh
they always start slow. By January they will have a comfortable lead in their piece-o-shit division.
I laughed. Did you laugh?
This guy has played so little that I’m still not 100% sure how to pronounce his name. Although listening to a half in the bag Foley try and stumble through it might not help me much either.
Although the actual situation with Rusty is less chucklesome..
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eh, not bothered
On the list of things to get bothered about, Olesz rusting (see what I did there?) away in the press box is very low. So they’re paying him a lot not to play – big deal. It’s the price we pay for cap flexibility.
There are few things less obviously fallacious than the idea that the guy with the big paycheck “has to play.” Not that you’re saying that here, of course, but it’s a popular canard and it only leads to trouble.
heh! Canards... we had them for dinner the other night
but Rusty is a 3 mildo Cap hit.. and leaves us without the flexibility to maybe pick up a Booth or suchlike..
But I’ll agree that the Shoes Of A Clown are more on my mind…
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
but...
we could pick up a Booth-like salary. We’d just have to trade away $400k in salary…
oh, I know..
I’m using him as a rough example.. a non-elite player who will be bloody useful
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Think of it this way
I’m sure El Duque will correct me if my Cap math is wack, but due to the way salaries pro-rate in trades and how salary cap room is banked daily, every day that Rusty is here and not contributing, the dent in the overall salary that the Hawks can take on at or near the deadline to help them in what we all hope is a deep playoff run is multiplicative.
The deadline occurs with 40 days left of the 185 that the NHL designates for the season. Rusty makes just a hair under $17K daily. We are 22 days deep in the season. So if he were waived/demoted today, that would be 123 days of banking $17K a day, or an additional $2.09 million in cap space. So that becomes $52K a day more the Hawks can spend from the deadline on, or about $9.6 million in full 185 day contract annual salary. That number decreases and has Rusty doing more harm than good to the long term goals and potential of this team every day he’s here and not dressed.
Second City Hockey
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame
by McClure on Oct 27, 2011 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
but that's still
a hell of a lot of money to be paying for a backup.. and it’s not like there’s a shortage of talent at Rock Vegas..
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions
if an injury happens
I’m going to assume that:
In a top 6 capacity – Morin > Olesz
In a bottom 6 capacity – Smith > Olesz
and……both are cheaper
Second City Hockey
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precisely..
it was a weird signing and now they just don’t seem to know what to do with him. I think that maybe giving him a couple of games with decent minutes to see what he can do and then either dressing him or waiving him makes the most sense.. and with the next two games not being earth-shatteringly dificult ones now is the time..
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think those couple of games will make a difference
Joel Quenneville has already decided he can’t play.
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by El Duque's Raft on Oct 27, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
it was a trade
and i understand why they did it.
Second City Hockey
I'm Abe Froman, and I approve this message.
whoops
sorry.. in Soccer picking up a player is called a “signing” no matter how it happens.. dammit, letting my Euro-Speak clog things up..
And what is your thinking behind it?
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
We knew that about you
when you started calling the Sedin Twins’ play “football”.
I'm a pimp, and pimps don't commit suicide.
hey
at least I haven’t made comments like “Boy, Bolland has a great engine” or “The ’Hawks will be sick as a parrot after that loss” or “They’ll be alright, they’ve got great bouncebackability” (that last non-word being an assault on the language made by Arsenal FC’s boss, Arsene Wenger.. in his defence, he is French and therefore English is his second language.. as opposed to English “Soccer” managers where it’s normally their third or fourth language)
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
bouncebackability
looks like it was invented by a German.
I'm a pimp, and pimps don't commit suicide.
well
Wenger is from the Alsace which has changed hands between France and Germany many, many times over the last 500 years or so.. (hence the German sounding name).. so maybe..
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
i like that word
also see sticktoitiveness.
mike, you are a bit of a hidebound git on this subject IMO. I bet you would have been a really Debbie Downer during the Great Vowel Shift.
We like our people!
sorry about the epithet
but ‘hidebound git’ just seemed like the mot juste, particularly in view of the subject under discussion.
plus, most of the Yanks won’t grok anyway. Have you heard about the abysmal state of American education?
We like our people!
oh,
and I forgive you for calling me a ‘Hidebound Git’…
“Is e gach focail a duirt seo chun raibh an broim as dreoilin”…
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
ok, not really good with the Irish
did you just call me a pregnant camel on a toilet?
We like our people!
nope
Irish doesn’t have out-and-out swears words like “shit” or “fuck”.. they’re called “Excuse my Anglo-Saxon” here for a reason.. instead what Irish does is elaborate put-downs.. in this case it means “Every word you say is like a Wren-bird farting”.. I’m not sure if you have Wrens in America but they are tiny, tiny songbirds.. so you see what I mean there.. only i jest, of course!
enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Can I have five pounds to mend the shed?
I’ll pay you back on Thursday, when I’m expectin’ a postal order.
- Ewen McTiegel (I know, he’s Scottish so this more aimed at germware)
I'm a pimp, and pimps don't commit suicide.
fair play to ye. really more of a broad Celtic thing.
Oh give to me a shillin’ for some fags and I’ll pay ye back on Thursday, but if you can wait till Saturday I’m expecting a divvy from the Harpenden Building Society
We like our people!
the mention
of Harpenden suggests this is an English thing.. since Harpenden is in Hertfordshire.. about twenty miles from London….
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions
is ea
spraoi agus spoirt agam…
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
more ironic part of the Celts
is that the British studiously ignore any and all associations with them regarding their history – too much Irish for them, apparently. And if you bring up Bodecia, their faces go pale and silent – good for a laugh.
oh no..
I’m a great fan of the language and a bit of a Linguist.. and because I’m pretty fluent in the Irish (Gaelic) language I know all about vowel shifts.. I’m also, in my spare time, a defender of the American modifications to English.. over here there are annoying online groups like “the Society Against American Bastardaization Of The English Language” who I yell at on a regular basis.. not least because the ‘Z’ in ‘Bastardization’ is an American English usage.. I believe that the English Language is wonderful and free.. the English spoken in England, Ireland, Australia, USA, Canada and New Zealand are all different and equally valid.. I do detest weird contractions, the use of nouns as verbs and ‘Alot’…
By the way, do you know what the origin of the expression ‘Git’ is?
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Do not detest the Alot!
The Alot loves you! A lot!
by Steeg of their own on Oct 27, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I just knew
That would be the Hyperbole And A Half article.. massive fan.. have you checked the Oatmeal’s
guide on the same subject?
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes! I also like their other guides!
To wrap Oatmeal back around to hockey:
Lose is that thing we wish nightly on Scum and Nucks. Loose is like the power play and hemorrhoids: not tight.
by Steeg of their own on Oct 27, 2011 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions
that "bastardization thingee" is precious
thanks for sharing. i’ve got my own pet peeves, particularly newly-minted words that take the place of perfectly serviceable words, like “incent”, when, with practically the same letters, you can just say “entice” or even the pedestrian “encourage”.
as far as the etymology of ‘git’, I’m all ears.
We like our people!
I was just looking
online for Back Up..
but I’ll have to go with what my Dad told me (and he knows his shit.. finishes Cryptic Crosswords in minutes, can recite the entire Ruba’Aiyat Of Omar Khay’aam)
Apparently ‘Git’ is Bedouin Arabic slang for ‘Pregnant Camel’.. got picked up by British troops in Palestine/North Africa and transported home.. like some other UK slang terms.. ‘Karzy’ for ‘Toilet’: from the Zulu ’M’Khazi’ meaning ‘Hole’ and ‘Shufty’ meaning ‘To Have a quick look at’ from the Hindi word ‘Shufti’…
sometimes having a global Empire enriches the old language!
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
where else, I ask you, can you learn shit like this?
We like our people!
by cliffkoroll on Oct 27, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
only here
I’m off down the pub to meet my Sister-In-Law… have fun, folks!
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Shoof is also dialectal
arabic for look/show
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Bint is also used in the UK to refer
to a girl, is it not?
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I like our guys, especially these guys.
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Yes it is
And “berk,” which is fairly innocuous these days, was originally rhyming slang from “Berkshire hunt.” I’ll leave you to figure out what that rhymes with.
Because a blog of alcoholics just isn't complete without a Scot.
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Doing Uni stuff
So, so much uni stuff. Doesn’t help that there haven’t really been any good game times for me so far this season. Next time there’s a game on early enough (which looks like Nov 25th), I’ll be there. I might also try tomorrow &/or next Friday.
But anyway, point taken. I’ll try to hang around here more. No promises, though.
How’s it been going? Apart from a 100% drop in Connery-related posts?
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well, yes I suppose
school should be a higher priority than staying up ‘til all hours of the night watching a sport. That is, until the playoffs start…then you’ll have some difficult decisions to make.
Things around here have been just fine. The team is doing well and there’s been relatively no SCH blog-drama, which is nice. So, all is well, except for like you mentioned, the absence of Sir Connery.
Let's Go Hawks!
I will be eternally tormented
by the use of “till” as a replacement for “until.” Learn how to construct a damn contraction, people. Particularly since we already had the perfectly serviceable “’til.”
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I have a hard time with til vs till
Reason: The Swedish word for “until” is “till.” I get ’em confused all the time.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Oct 27, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
They had to take on his bad deal
to get campbell’s cap hit off the books.
There was some talk around the hawks blogosphere that Bowman “targeted” Olesz, and thought he could be a piece here, but I’m not sure how anyone could still hold that opinion based on how the situation has played out.
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oh yes
I knew he was a bum part of the Campbell deal.. but why not waive him immediately? Like you say, apparently Bowman had plans but what the hell were they?
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
purely speculation here
but I’m guessing that this was the thought process, from bowman’s point of view.
Alright, I’ll take on Olesz. He has first round pedigree, and maybe if he can stay healthy, a change of scenery might turn things around for him. We’ll give him a look during camp and see what he does with the playing time Q gives him.
Now that we’ve passed all that, he shouldn’t be here if he’s not going to play. This is why we’re all confused.
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total speculation back at ya
but perhaps they think another team bitten by the injury bug might show some interest and offer to toss some scraps our way in a trade, thus managing to get something rather than nothing.
But at some point, I agree that the status quo should not be maintained.
An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)
if your speculation is the actual thought process
The scraps get more and more meager every day that Rusty isn’t out there proving that he has some worth.
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yup
it really is a “Shit Or Get Out Of The Jacuzzi” (horrible term coined by a weird friend of mine) situation.. as i said earlier he plays or he goes..
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
god I hope that's not a real-life personal story...
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by FrankStallone on Oct 27, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope so too..
I think it was a Semi-Spoonersim on his part..
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
meh
teams are pretty much familiar with who’s who. Frankly, with the Hawks sitting him, it telegraphs the signal that he’s available. There’s probably a GM or two out there who thinks Olesz would be a good deal at $3M (and I wouldn’t be surprised if Stan knew who that hypothetical GM is). Certainly there’s some risk here, but I’m willing to give Stan the benefit of the doubt for a bit. He’s earned a little slack for his off-season work.
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Florida might take him!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Oct 27, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
this
it makes zero sense to me.. I’m not thrilled about him as a player but he’s not like Scott and a minimal Cap hit in the Press Box… and considering the bloody contortions we had under Cap pressure after the Cup season.. either play him or bin him
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions
You are correct sir
’tis a perplexing situation.
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by El Duque's Raft on Oct 27, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe so
If and when he would clear waivers.
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i'm not good with these rules
if he was claimed, would the Hawks still be on the hook for half his salary/cap hit?
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i believe they are.
just like what happened with huet and why he is in europe.
Turco was good, but Crawford has a force field...
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Oct 27, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
No they are not
only on the way up
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Oct 27, 2011 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
gotcha
not educated as much as everyone else on it. learning as i go.
Turco was good, but Crawford has a force field...
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Oct 27, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what SCH is here for!
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Oct 27, 2011 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not certain
I thought it was just re-entry waivers where if a player was claimed his original team was still responsible for half of his cap hit and salary? Or is it both waivers and re-entry waivers? Someone with better knowledge of the CBA needs to weigh in on this
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by FrankStallone on Oct 27, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions
not 100% but i think it's both.
it does not matter whether a player is claimed off waivers or re-entry waivers, the original team is liable for a % of the remaining contract.
Turco was good, but Crawford has a force field...
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Oct 27, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
while I agree with you...
exactly how much salary space do we actually want or need at the trade deadline? If our roster stays as is, the Hawks will have enough to bring in $10+ million in contracts at the deadline.
but
if the benefit of keeping Rusty is close to zero, the benefit of additional cap space, even if modest, would be worthwhile.
We like our people!
yeah, i don’t know what’s going on with him but I see very few scenarios where sending him down actually makes a lot of sense. Perhaps if you bring up a guy you know doesn’t have a long-term future on Hawks it makes sense (Klink?). Don’t want to bring up a young guy and stunt his growth if there’s little chance he’ll play decent minutes.
What is a lot?
I’ll take obvious questions for $1000 please Alex
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by FrankStallone on Oct 27, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
larf!
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by mightymike D on Oct 27, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
the 9.6 mil
is a total that assumes rusty is waived today
Based on McClure’s numbers, that figure is 7.5 mil if Rusty stays on the roster.
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It's actually $13.8 million if they hang onto Rusty
Cap Geek on 2/27, 145 days into the year, and the roster stays as is (for the most part)
Banked cap space to date (on 2/27, on day 145)
$2,994,294
2,994,294 / 40=$74,857 per day extra to spend in daily salary from the deadline on.
$74,857 * 185 (full season)= $13,848,609 full season equivalent in salary the Hawks can take on.
Second City Hockey
It's a bird, it's a plane, it's a goddamn shame
Therefore no need to waive Rusty
In no universe are the Hawks going to move so little salary out and bring that much salary in. Even if it’s for rentals, the cost in prospects/players to bring in anything over about half of that is way too high. We’re tilting at windmills here IMO.
Whether Rusty stays or goes isn’t an issue as far as the salary cap goes. Now whether or not waiving him makes room for someone who can break the lineup is a different question…
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Oct 27, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions
In other words
We have money to go out and pick up a rental Dman or top 6 forward
and then some, I didn't quote the 9.6 properly
you could get a handful of top notch rentals
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but, as CNS mentions above
it’s going to cost you something to trade for these guys, so it’s a balance.
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maybe
the right seller would be willing to take Rusty as part of the deal . . .
An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)
you'd have enough money
to theoretically bring in Shea Weber and some other whiz not named Wis.
if this is true
he is more of a trade made situation than anything. but that only happens if they can find the player they want with a team that will take him. he has definitely become the red headed step child of the hawks. he has the talent to be good but his last couple years combined with his play this year are a real drag.
Turco was good, but Crawford has a force field...
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Oct 27, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
didn't
we give up a red-headed stepchild to get him?
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lmao
ironic, isn’t it?
Turco was good, but Crawford has a force field...
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Oct 27, 2011 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty damn good so far
If the Hawks can keep up to that level of playing, a 100-point season, along with a top-seed playoff position, becomes a realistic prospect. Yes, there are a few glitches, but everything finally comes into place. Seriously, I haven’t felt this good about the Hawks in a long time.
Is it possible that
Olesz is any worse than Stalberg? I like Vik and want him to put it all together but since he’s been here, he’s been a whole lot of meh. At this point we know what we have in Vik, I wouldn’t mind seeing Q give Olesz a few starts in his place.
Stals has more upside than Olesz at this point.
I get that Olesz hasn’t had many opportunities, but he hasn’t made the most of what he has had. Stals has shown some fire this year and Q is rewarding him for that. Olesz is more of a wait and see at this point. No reason for Q to change what isn’t broken.
Turco was good, but Crawford has a force field...
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Oct 27, 2011 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm officially down on Stalberg
In terms of potential upside, the best I can hope is that they catch him cherry picking and can use his speed to get a breakaway.
Afroman likes tall cans... of Daisy Cutter Pale Ale
He would fumble the puck on the breakaway or overskate it
Trade him right fucking now along with Olaysh.
Hold My Stones
And
that lazy Kane bastard.
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and while you're at it...
try to sneak in that Toes fella.
I'm not sure this is the right place
for trade-Kane sarcasm
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Did I just get
moderated?
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moderately
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Oct 27, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
no
I just didn’t get the placement
It’s usually used to combat meatheads (or as a joke when Kane does something well), and while Laarmer’s presentation may have been meathead-y, the thought that Vik and Olesz are useless isn’t really even close to on par with the thought that Kane should be traded.
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I see
but it was the adamant demand for a trade that I picked up on. Though laaarmer will no doubt be happy to hear that he was merely “meathead-y” and did not sink to actual meathead status.
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throw me in this group as well
not a Vik fan
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I was at first
I mean, the man is gorgeous, but his luster is wearing off… so to speak
Afroman likes tall cans... of Daisy Cutter Pale Ale
But he had a good preseason!
(and Bickell did not)
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Oct 27, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't even realize I was all that hard on Vik.
Aside from a snide comment here and there, of course. I wanted that guy to succeed in a big way. Hard to watch him fumble chance after chance…
I hate you
I think I suggested a day or two ago
that I’m starting to think Rattlehead’s mental acuity isn’t going to catch up with his physical gifts. A shame if true, and it’s certainly not impossible for the light bulb to finally switch on. But I sense a hockey IQ that doesn’t match his physical tools.
An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)
His big problem is his hands. There’s something wrong there and it’s not gonna get fixed at this stage of his career.
I stand corrected...
there’s always this possibility.
you mean he's having a perpetual
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Q disciplines/makes changes
for defensive errors moreso than offensive failures. Stals is ahead of Olesz in that department so far.
The problem is
who’s seen enough of Olesz in game situations to even tell if that’s a plausible reason. Although he could be just utterly shitting the bed in practice.
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or his knee could be hurting
Or, it’s a very, very small sample size, but in the game that Rusty did play, he had somewhere around 65% of his shifts start in the offensive zone and only about 25% ended there. That’s awful. Small sample though.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Oct 27, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
or
the trip to Q’s doghouse can be based on a surprisingly small sample size. /alliterated
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the paths
to the doghouse of Q are many.
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and the paths out are few
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by FrankStallone on Oct 27, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm worried that we are too reliant on Crawford.
In the championship year it seemed like the Blackhawks always had the puck, leading to questions about whether Niemi was really that good. I haven’t heard those questions about Crawford, because he has had to stop more shots per game than Niemi did. If he falters, could the team go through a slump?
They are still playing like a top team, but in the championship year they played like the clear favorite. It’s still much, much better than last year, though.
OT
no mas! : /
Turco was good, but Crawford has a force field...
and 10 minutes later...wtb dry clothes...no camera effects here either
Turco was good, but Crawford has a force field...
by Coz_Bulls_Fan on Oct 27, 2011 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
ugh rangers just had 2 goals waved off
"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
'Peg undressing the Flyers right now...
I’ve never seen so many deflected goals by one team in such a short period.
And the Jets are now being undressed in turn.
In a depressing fashion. Wow.
"Showin' her my Toews-face!"
i'm speechless
4 goals in less than 2 minutes. Tied 7-7 right now…
make that 8-7 Jets
5 goals in under 3 minutes.
8-7? what!?
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by justforkicks on Oct 27, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
8-8
at least they went 14 minutes sans a goal…
that is crazypants
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by justforkicks on Oct 27, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow - and it was all different people for the Jets right?
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by justforkicks on Oct 27, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
only 3 skaters for the Jets didn't a point
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by LanceFister3 on Oct 27, 2011 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
A guy at Arctic Ice Hockey said it was a solid win.
Uh… maybe I need to check my definition, but giving up a four goal lead and winning 9-8 does not a solid win make. More like a save-your-own-ass-from-epic-disgrace win.
"Showin' her my Toews-face!"
It was a travesty of a win.
Even the Flyers, who came back from the four goal deficit should be somewhat embarrassed.
by transienthawk on Oct 27, 2011 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions
You can say that again
Their goalies only faced 25 shots and gave up 9 goals!
Peg can probably feel a bit better about their netminders because they faced twice as many (how the fuck do you give up 48 shots in a regulation game??), but then there’s that whole defensive issue…
Um, Buff for Norris anyone?
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Oct 27, 2011 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh and could you imagine if I had to do screencaps for THAT game??
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Oct 27, 2011 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I just got home and saw the score...WTF??
I remember being at the old Stadium when the Hawks lost to the Oilers 12-9; Troy Murray said after the game that it was the “dumbest game he had ever played in”.
by CjSax on Oct 27, 2011 9:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i would call it more of a liquid game. or gassy.
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 27, 2011 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Seems
like someone’s just randomly punching in goals on the website, some 8-year-old. I honestly wondered if the site was testing some new way of putting in data.
www.mjt.org
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Oct 27, 2011 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Next up: replacing the blue line with the 2-goal line
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by FrankStallone on Oct 27, 2011 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
As a kid, I thought this was true
I am a meat popsicle
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by LanceFister3 on Oct 27, 2011 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions
bahaha
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Oct 27, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Hit in the face with a puck.
Had to get 6 stitches.
by transienthawk on Oct 27, 2011 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
What, Pens Isles game to shoot out
And Nabakov switched with DiPietro for it.
Has there ever been a goalie switch for a SO before?
"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
For some reason I remember the Hawks involved in such a situation
sometime in the past couple years… but I can’t remember if it was us or the other team that switched
Hm, I don't remember that but it could very well be before my time (as a fan)
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by justforkicks on Oct 27, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
There was a Blues at the UC game
I believe in ’10 en route to the cup where we went up something like 5-0 and the game got tight and hawks snuck away with the win. Too lazy to research, brain too fuzzy for more details. It was a wild roller coaster ride
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by OMFS88 on Oct 27, 2011 9:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i'm sure of it...
but that’s bad taste, no? You’re giving the SO goalie the win or loss.
Apparently Nabakov wasn't feeling well and was fatigued
so they chose to go with the DiPietro. I don’t have stats to back it up but I feel like DiPietro actually does really well in shootouts. Let the Malkin one in tonight (only one) but he almost had it – maybe if he had time to actually stretch prior
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by justforkicks on Oct 27, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
forgot that was actually the first action he's seen this season also
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by justforkicks on Oct 27, 2011 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
/deep sigh...
Now the meat heads will be out in force calling for his head for “losing the game”…
There is a problem with outliving your enemies, it usually means that you have outlived your friends as well...
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by burpchelischili on Oct 28, 2011 2:03 AM CDT up reply actions
So for real
How in the shit will Edmonton keep all these young players?
Hall, Eberle, Nugent-Hopkins, Paajarvi, Gagner…
By staying crappy and replacing them with future top-5 picks?
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by FrankStallone on Oct 27, 2011 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Pretty easily I believe
Smyth and Hemsky are UFA’s after this season. Trade Smyth at the deadline for a prospect and low/mid priced player. Try to get a bag of eggshells for Hemsky since it’s possible he’ll never be the same, or sign him for a big discount if possible. Trade Cam Barker too or just don’t give him a QO.
Those moves alone free up $12.6M gross.
The $3M on the books this season for the buyouts of Nilsson and Souray drops to $1.5M next year. That’s another $1.5M freed up.
So that’s over $14M available to resign some of their RFA’s and sign 3 new players.
Plus, most of the guys you mentioned are Edmonton’s property until 2015 or 2016. Not too much to worry about yet. They have their share of RFA’s but not all of them are due huge raises either. A couple of big contracts will be expiring then too. And Nugent-Hopkins and Hall are both already making almost $4M/yr. It’s not like they’re gonna resign for THAT much more unless league salaries go through the roof.
But if it does’t work out, I won’t lose any sleep over it.
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by ChicagoNativeSon on Oct 27, 2011 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I absolutely cannot believe they're making that kind of coin
Is that normal for top picks entering the NHL? Seems a bit high but I admit I don’t know what the standard is.
So we're all a little confused about Olesz, right?
How come none of the beat writers/reporters have asked Q about Olesz constantly being a scratch? If they have, what did Q have to say about him?
I am a meat popsicle
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SCH's resident 8 year old
first you have to define what you mean by the term "reporter"
aside from Kuc and Jahns, I don’t see anything resembling one on the best these days.
Jets/Flyers got nothing on this one
Dec 11, 1985: Oilers 12 Hawks 9
http://www.greatesthockeylegends.com/2008/12/oilers-12-blackhawks-9.html
12 goals in the second period
but that was the time of hyperinflation. it wasn’t bad defense then. it was no defense. tonight was a farce. goofy too. pinball hockey, most of the goals.
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 27, 2011 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
So many names to recognize
I was 8 months from being born
Afroman likes tall cans... of Daisy Cutter Pale Ale
by OMFS88 on Oct 27, 2011 11:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Bryzgalov apologizes to the team and fans
“I can’t stop the puck, even the easy shots”
just about to post that
full link for anyone who wanted to see it: http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Video-Watch-Ilya-Bryzgalov-8217-s-awkward-apol;ylt=AvH07E1QA7bQr9.AoHEicJ7vLYF?urn=nhl-wp15994
I feel bad for him. It’s obvious now that Philly is just a terrible place for goalies. With fans like those, who wouldn’t have mental and emotional damage?
fans haven’t been giving him grief yet. it’s just a lot of pressure with the contract and the Goalie Problem storyline, which has some truth but is also overblown. Defense has not played well, Pronger’s out and the forwards are considerably poorer defensively this year as a result of the roster turnover. And he had a bad game as well, in relief of Bobrovsky.
But he hasn’t gotten the Philly Fan treatment yet. God help him if they turn on him. It will be another soap opera.
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 27, 2011 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
weirdest off - season ever for that team
I still have no idea what their master plan was, and their GM’s explanations left me wondering quite a bit more. Sure seemed like “let’s keep Pronger happy even if we have to get rid of some of our best players.”
One view is that it all started with Snider clamoring for the big-name goalie. That forced Holmgren’s hand and drove the price up so he had to get rid of some big names. If you believe the story to that point, he could have done a lot worse with his return for the Richards and Carter trades. But then the whole “leadership/character problem” story comes in and then Speculation becomes the primary occupation in Flyerland. It would be fun to do a Scarlet Letter with Carter and Richards as Hester Prynne twins (maybe wearing Sedin jerseys) and the fanbase as Reverend Dimmesdale.
So the GM’s explanations may have seemed odd because the real one was “The Old Guy made me do it.”
It’s Always Sunny Drama in Philadelphia.
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 28, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Favorite line
At around 1:25: “I can’t stop the puck, it’s weery simple.”
"I have only space enough to add: against the assault of desperate pandas nothing can stand."
-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)
by HungryHungryPanda on Oct 28, 2011 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions
yes, everyone is “weery” of it already and it’s only October.
by flyersfaninchicago on Oct 28, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
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