Morning Links - (10/3)
by JuliaM on Oct 3, 2011 8:04 AM CDT
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PrintThe last meaningless pre-season bout is over, and it all starts to count on Friday. Worrying about Steve Montador can wait for four more days.
- Recaps and reflection from Sunday's match. [blackhawks.nhl.com] [ESPN] [Third Man In]
- Dave Bolland and Ben Smith are "progressing well" and could be skating early this week. [CSN]
- Q is pretty uncharacteristically pumped for this season. [Trib]
- Troy Brouwer had a lot of emotions about last nights tilt. [CSN]
- Corey Crawford's focused, Stan's working out a deal with Brandon Saad, and Hossa, Brunette, and Kane are sticking together. [CSN]
- A bit of a feature on Dylan Olsen. [Sun-Times]
- The Brandons Saad and Pirri may be staying a while. [Sun-Times]
- Hockeenight wins the Saad-pun Olympics and thrills with a puckcast. [Hockeenight]
- ProHockeyTalk has yet another Chicago season preview. [PHT]
- Time for touch-up icing to go. [PD]
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Broken Femur
Ouch, but it did not look like a dirty play at all. This is just one of those plays that goes bad IMO and no matter what rules are made, things like this will still happen from time to time, even if all contact was banned. I would be willing to listen to hearing an alternative to touch icing, but do not want to kill the ability of the offending team (icing team) from being able to out hustle the Defense and gain control either.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Oct 3, 2011 8:36 AM CDT reply actions
I always wondered if we removed the trapazoid from there
would this continue to happen if the goalies are able to play the puck outside of that fucking zone?
October 7th, can't get here soon enough...
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
—Brendan Shanahan.
removing the trapazoid wouldn't do much on icings - but no touch icing is an idea whose time has come
Fighting stupidity since 1958 (it's taking longer than anticipated)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.
I support the no touch icing ...
not only because it’s safer, but also because the refs get the call wrong when a close “icing prevention” play occurs. So often it’s impossible to spot whose stick touched the puck first that I say just make an easy to apply bright-line rule.
I politely withdraw my snarky comment based on lack of knowledge.
by Billy Charlesbois on Oct 3, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Right there with you, I cant evne count how many times the refs get it wrong the way it is now.
No-Touch Icing and a Bigger Rink would prevent a lot of injuries IMO.
When I decide to change my personality I will let you know what I become.
by Blackhawks Transplant on Oct 3, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
does hybrid icing allow for that
but without the potential danger of slamming into the wall and hurting something?
"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on Oct 3, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
that might also be an acceptable alternative solution to the current problem
Fighting stupidity since 1958 (it's taking longer than anticipated)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.
just wondered
maybe because I hate the fucking trapazoid…
Hybrid icing might work
October 7th, can't get here soon enough...
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
—Brendan Shanahan.
I hate the trapazoid to - I just hate it just separately from touch icing
Fighting stupidity since 1958 (it's taking longer than anticipated)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.
I'm guessing he's referring to no-touch icing.
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Oct 3, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks, but...
Randall Holt over at Rant Sports threw us “Kneel Before Saad”, we just ran with it.
We also can’t take credit for “Saadomy”.
HOCKEENIGHT.COM...home of FRIDAY NIGHT FIGHTS and the HOCKEENIGHT PUCKCAST!!!
Nice
so pretty soon we are gonna be able to call him General Saad….i mean if he becomes a good player
by Special Agent Dale Cooper on Oct 3, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not going to link this Jahns article
because he says that Scott is still really, really needed on the roster, even with all of the recent additions:
“There will be times when he might be needed, so it looks as if the Hawks are content with keeping eight defensemen when training camp breaks.”
Huh? Why, Stanbow, why?
We all knew Scott would be the 8th D-man
However when I hear the words “might be needed”, it makes me want to jump out this window.
October 7th, can't get here soon enough...
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
—Brendan Shanahan.
yes, but the underlying point of that article
is that because he’s “a fighter,” they all feel a whole lot better once he’s on the ice with them. Yeah, just like last year’s games vs. VAN. He really cleaned that shit right up.
The only purpose John Scott should have on this years roster
is to let other players on his own team know they need to get their shit in gear…
E.G. If John Scott is dressing instead of you, you might suck at your job…
You and your mom are hillbillies. This is a house of learn-ed doctors. ----- Dale Doback
by Boris Mironov on Oct 3, 2011 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
This idea has some legs
imagine showing up to work today and Scott is parked at your desk/workstation/massage table/timer-controlled peep room.
I'm a pimp, and pimps don't commit suicide.
The logical reaction would be...
skydiving without a parachute.. It seems as though you may not be able to complete this mission due to your line of proffession… lol
I’m a pimp, and pimps don’t commit suicide.
You and your mom are hillbillies. This is a house of learn-ed doctors. ----- Dale Doback
by Boris Mironov on Oct 3, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
i was laughing hysterically
when john scott fell down all by himself and they called a penalty on washington. anyone else recall this? that guy is pure comedy.
Baby Huey fall down and go boom.
Please let that one be somewhere on YouTube. I’ll watch it any time I need a laugh.
Don't mind me, I'm just here to sit on the bench and mock McDouche
by Marty-notimportant-Turco on Oct 3, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions
"might be needed"
aka “when we play st. louis”
by putmeinthemadhouse on Oct 3, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
my takeaway on the preseason
The thing that impressed me the most was our depth coming out of Rockford. Saad-Pirri-Olsen-Salak-Stanton-Hayes-Freddy-Morin, all looked like they could not only fill in in the case of injury, but contribute. Hell, Danault and McNeil weren’t too bad either. Saad is really going to make management make a hard decision.
we’ll miss Campbell, but overall the defense is deeper. Olsen looked very good on the PP yesterday. Although i think Salak won Turco’s spot, I’d like to see him start in Rockford. It would be nice to see the Hogs start the season squealing like a pigs.
Mayers seeems to be a solid pick up – a John Madden type addition to the team.
Not related, but Semin’s dive more resembled a belly flop than Greg Louganis. He really needs to observe some tape of the Sedins. The worst LeBlanc (Great name for a goalie if you put a k where the c is – work with me) should have got was two minutes for interference. And if the NHL was smart, they install camera’s under the ice so we could officially determine whether the puck crosses the goal line when a fat ass like Neurvirth decides to hatch it.
by wardrums on Oct 3, 2011 8:58 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
100% congree here
Our organizational depth is awesome. We have a few D-men and a lot of forwards looking to make the NHL in the next few years, to the point that I just don’t know what the hell we’ll do with them all.
Leblanc’s hit…. i think the elbow caught his chin, and some supp. disc. is warranted, just to drive the point home. Something will need to be done about the embellishment though.
And Bick’s goal… if the rule were changed such that some logical reasoning was allowed to be used in the ruling, that would help. Last night, it would go something like “After the play was blown dead, the puck was retrieved from inside the net. Ergo, before the play was blown dead, the puck was INSIDE THE FUCKING NET.”
Hockeenight doesn’t like bicks either. I think he’s gonna prove critics wrong this season.
Ergo...the puck was INSIDE THE FUCKING NET.
Perfect! :)
I’ve liked Bickells play, especially last few games.
The embellishment needs to be adressed. If that was a playoff game, there is no way Semin goes down. That LeBlanc is a big kid it looked like.
Keep in mind, Bickell's goal wasn't reviewed - they aren't doing review in the pre-season
Fighting stupidity since 1958 (it's taking longer than anticipated)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.
Yeah no biggie...
it’s just my whining, fault finding, bag of complaints nature. Plus, going into the season, it’s important to get my “Ref, you stink,” mindset going.
I missed the game, but if this was regular season and the goal reviewed
is it one we’d have seen cross the line without use of logic?
"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on Oct 3, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
maybe - it depends on how many camera angles we got
Fighting stupidity since 1958 (it's taking longer than anticipated)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.
I'm sorry
if the rule were changed such that some logical reasoning was allowed to be used in the ruling, that would help.
Did I just hear you say you wanted NHL officials to be given the ability to make judgement calls on goals?
Raise your hand if you think this sounds like a bad idea…
GO SHARKS!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Changing signatures is for suckers.
What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.
You doubt the moral judgements of the League's Elite Officiating Crews?
How dare you!
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Oct 3, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Not judgement calls
You know, reasoning like if the puck is under the goalie’s ass and the goalie’s ass is over the line then by default the puck had to have crossed the line.
Respect my Authoritah!..........Eric Cartman
no- this would be the video review guys
the on ice guys already do this to some degree
Fighting stupidity since 1958 (it's taking longer than anticipated)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.
FWIW, I think
if there had been a video review it would have been ruled a goal. The puck clearly came out from beneath him behind the line.
Have the nets been changed to the more see-through netting yet?
Oct 7 2011. Close your eyes, here we go.
Tweeping as @ehirtens
I thought Pirri's contract kicked in this year anyhow?
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
I think I really like Frolik
on Tazers wing… When Q put him up there and shuttled Rusty down with Bolland, Frolik and Toews seemed like they were getting after it pretty well and had some good chemistry. I didn’t notice Olesz that much with Bolland, which I guess is okay. Thank God real hockey will be here soon… I fucking hate the preseason…
You and your mom are hillbillies. This is a house of learn-ed doctors. ----- Dale Doback
Must remember Babcock's statement that whoever plays with Toews becomes the best player on the team...
Kane and Hossa got their own elite mojo, no need to overlap their Venn diagrams with the Captain’s…
Add Sharpie in those top 2 lines and "Wha? Wha was that? " will be heard over and over and fucking over…
"Statistical Improbability on a Colossal Scale"
One of the best comments i ever heard watching the hawks was in the Stanley Cup run.
When Discussing the hawks line of Bolland, Buff and Steegs, he said, “Ye gads, this is their third line!”
What is a Venn diagram?
So, like Toews and Kaner for example are great skaters, and puck distributors (both spotty); whereas Smith may not be...
The idea is not to have overlapping skill sets on the ice at the same time, should be more complementary (Hossa plays great defense, Kaner does not; Hossa doesn’t pass like Kaner does, etc.)
"Statistical Improbability on a Colossal Scale"
Now I get it...
toews is the green bug with the red spots because he can do everything. John Scott would be the blue bug with no spots looking to exterminate either the yellow or mauve bug, who I can only assume don’t have many skills to begin with.
John Scott is definitely out of and "skill" Venn circle, but he might get his own circle of 6'5" enforcers with engineering degrees...
He will be lonely in his circle…
"Statistical Improbability on a Colossal Scale"
My favorite was I think over at NM.
The Hawks have Eager, Madden, Buf as their 4th line. That is 7 Million, that’s right 7M, for the Hawks 4th line. Are you kiddin me?
We still have a ways to go to see if it really works but
I’d have never have thought Kaner would be the center Hossa needed to excel
"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on Oct 3, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Hockey is finally back!!
Spent the summer switching states and getting married…ready to get some drunken hockey knowledge dropped on me by the three prophets!
when did you run into will smith!?
weird....
i got married this summer and moved cross country too.
congrats – hope your first few months of married life have been as good as ours has.
Both Pirri and Kruger cut
TramyersCSN Tracey Myers
#Blackhawks assign Fs Jimmy Hayes, Marcus Kruger, Peter LeBlanc and Brandon Pirri, and dman Dylan Olsen to the Rockford IceHogs today.
I was hoping that Pirri would make the team for a few games.
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
Trying to figure opening day lineup is a bit confusing
Sharp-Toews-Saad
Brunette-Kane-Hossa
Bickell-Bolland-Frolik
??-Mayers-Smith
Is John Scott going to be 4th line LW? Stals hurt. Carcillo suspended. Who am I forgetting?
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
Olsez. NM
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
I still wonder who will rotate out the lineup
When Carcillo is done serving his suspension. I know he wont play every day but still curious to see what happens.
October 7th, can't get here soon enough...
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
—Brendan Shanahan.
Mayers and Stalberg
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
mayers seems like an awfully good 4th line C
I’d have to think it would be his wings that would rotate in and out.
They may end up rotating Smith and Mayers
as the 4th line Center.. still rotating out Mayers, Carcillo, and whoever is in Q’s doghouse at the time…
You and your mom are hillbillies. This is a house of learn-ed doctors. ----- Dale Doback
by Boris Mironov on Oct 3, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
mayers can skate
hit, wins FO’s, yesterday he won more than 50% of his FO’s on the road….and the guy has some skill….i think you let him be the constant on the 4th line, and rotate carcillo stalberg olesz smith etc…
by Special Agent Dale Cooper on Oct 3, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions
he's looking like a very good signing to me
Fighting stupidity since 1958 (it's taking longer than anticipated)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.
I like Mayers.
I’d be fine with that. Id assume he will get a night off once in awhile though to keep him fresh. He is the elder statesman of that 4th line by a good margin.
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
Oh yeah....
I’m sure they are gonna give hime a night off here and there….I just wanted to say that out of all of the 4th line guys he has the best overall game….reminds me of madden except mayers is a better skater
by Special Agent Dale Cooper on Oct 3, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
...and fighter. Probably a better role model as well.
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
LMAO
at the better role model part!
by Special Agent Dale Cooper on Oct 3, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Hope he does well.
but Mayers got beat pretty bad playing the cupcakiest of minutes, while Madden plays Bolland-type minutes and is his team’s primary PKer. Not sure Mayers can carry Madden’s jockstrap.
For a guy who can't find a team, Madden sounds pretty good!
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
Its not that he can't find a team.
Its that he doesnt want to move, and Min doesnt want to resign him.
When I decide to change my personality I will let you know what I become.
by Blackhawks Transplant on Oct 3, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
That is what he said originally.
I seem to remember him amending his comment after it became clear he was not in the Wild’s plans.
Nobody even mentioned him this offseason.
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
Which is crazy, because he's still got it imo.
When I decide to change my personality I will let you know what I become.
by Blackhawks Transplant on Oct 3, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
he's still got it, but the price has to be right.
especially to move. Someone picks him up as a vet when injuries hit.
I have a FEVER and the only prescription is MOAR DAGGER!
The Enemy's Gate is Down
If
for some reason Sharp and Smith can’t go, I expect to see Pirri and Hayes back for the opening line-up (in that order) before they would put in Scott. I hope so anyway.
BTW, since Carcillo is suspended, does he get to be on the red carpet opening night?
Oct 7 2011. Close your eyes, here we go.
Tweeping as @ehirtens
perhaps?
he just goes straight from the carpet to the press box, with John Scott.
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
Or maybe they just escort him out the side door
and put him in a cab so he can watch at the Bottom Line.
Seriously, I don’t know if suspended means stay away 100% or just stay off the ice.
Oct 7 2011. Close your eyes, here we go.
Tweeping as @ehirtens
Pirri I think will make it next camp IMO
If Smith is Healthy he will fit in on the 4th line just fine for me.
October 7th, can't get here soon enough...
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
—Brendan Shanahan.
That's a very 2010-2011 4th line.
I like the model this season. Lots of grinders. Not sure where Pirri fits in on the Blackhawks long term. Toews-McNeil and David Bolland pretty much have the Center position on lockdown.
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
Pirri fits in
as trade bait if he has another good camp…
You and your mom are hillbillies. This is a house of learn-ed doctors. ----- Dale Doback
by Boris Mironov on Oct 3, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
or as a wing - lot's of centers coming up end up on a wing
Fighting stupidity since 1958 (it's taking longer than anticipated)
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.
I hope so
I’d like to see the guy in a Hawks sweater and think we could use the depth — I’m tired of having injuries turn our C position into a revolving door
by VerStig on Oct 3, 2011 3:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Because then he'd be.... wait for it....
Versatile!
Oct 7 2011. Close your eyes, here we go.
Tweeping as @ehirtens
A little ahead of the game on McNeil.
He showed nothing. Probably had the worst camp of all the major prospects except Beach.
I was talking about the future...Not this season....Toews and Bolland both locked up
McNeil presumably will be here the year after next. Its just hard to figure out where Pirri would have a future with the team. He isn’t a 4th line guy and probably isn’t a 2 guy either.
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
I didn't think you were talking about this season.
Nonetheless, you are counting chickens before the eggs are even fertilized.
Its pretty clear he has first shot at being our 2nd line Center after Toews when he's ready.
Unless he gets hurt of course. It still leaves the question of Pirri open.
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
That's an awfully quick turnaround...
I hope that means that despite appearances, he wasn’t that badly scrambled rather than a premature return.
by april o'neil on Oct 3, 2011 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Dont know why but forgot Stalbergs was hurt
Shit have him back and this 4th line and being able to rotate seems like it works for me. I’ve really enjoyed Mayers so far. Finally it’s about some competition throughout the season. If your play isn’t “up to par” then your ass should sit as now we have that depth back to fill most needs.
October 7th, can't get here soon enough...
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
—Brendan Shanahan.
I dont think Stals is going to fit very well when its Mayers and Carcillo on the ice with him.
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
Really?
I thought with the way he finished last season and his speed he would be perfect on the fourth line….all 3 can skate and hit, and have some actual hockey skills….i have to admit, even though carcillo is going to piss me off, the guy can skate hit and has hockey skills…..now if he can just manage not to take too many dumb penalties
by Special Agent Dale Cooper on Oct 3, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Mayers and Carcillo are going to play physical and mix it up.
Stals is going to get caught in a lot of battles he wants no part of with those guys. Stals is just a guy I dont see being a Blackhawk by the playoffs.
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
I thought
Stals was really throwing his weight around at the end of last year…he was finishing his checks, that is why i think he would be good on the 4th line…..but maybe your are right….he might just be a trading chip
by Special Agent Dale Cooper on Oct 3, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I dont know how you can say that.I think Carcillo and Mayers looked really good yesterday.
I don’t think we are using Olesz to his fullest. I dont see him being a bum slayer like Stalz can be.
I think Carcillo, Mayers, and Smith/Stalz will be great. It will open up the ice for any of one of them.
Olesz uses his size well, I like him on top 6, winning board battles and keeping the puck in enemy territory. It gives our top 6 puck possesion.
When I decide to change my personality I will let you know what I become.
by Blackhawks Transplant on Oct 3, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Where did I say Mayers and Carcillo looked bad?
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
You didn't, my point is they just that.
They looked good, and I thought Olesz wasnt that noticeable with them. So put in Stalz with his speed, and I think you have something.
Put in Smith and his nose for the puck, and you have something equally as dangerous for a 4th line.
When I decide to change my personality I will let you know what I become.
by Blackhawks Transplant on Oct 3, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope Olesz gets a shot before Stals.
We’ve seen the Stalberg movie before. At least the failure of Rusty will be new and exciting.
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
Maybe he is cut now, but depending on who is ready for the first game
will be called up again?
"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on Oct 3, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Did Brouwer really knock over Kane
or was it a ha-ha moment?
They were at the boards, and he pushed Kane over
I thought it was kinda funny.
"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
by justforkicks on Oct 3, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Kane turned around to laugh, but Brouwer had already disappeared into thin air.
He didn’t resurface the rest of the game.,
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
I realize that this isn't a hockey comment, but...
Arrested Development has returned….
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
Yeah i read
that in the tribune this morning….amazing!!!!can’t wait!!!!one of the most underrated shows ever
by Special Agent Dale Cooper on Oct 3, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Looks like Ray Emery is your backup goaltender
Real_ESPNLeBrun Pierre LeBrun
Hearing that Hawks and Ray Emery are close to agreeing on one-year deal. Still not done but close …
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
I thought this would be the case
Even with how Salak performed, I think he will do good seeing the majority starts with the Hogs. I just hope Emery can get his play a little better and hopefully the D in front should be better than he has seen
October 7th, can't get here soon enough...
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
—Brendan Shanahan.
Agree.
Related Question. When does Emery get his first action? Winnipeg? Crawford will start the opener and I would assume he would start the home opener as well even though its a back to back.
Winnipeg is second home game of season and 3rd all year but the Hawks have about a 5 day break between games. Or since the first 5 or 6 games are pretty spread out do you wait for Phoenix on the 18th?
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
Emery early and Salak late is not a bad idea for this season
"Statistical Improbability on a Colossal Scale"
I have no clue when Emery gets the first start
Because the schedule early there seems to be a lot of gaps between games. Some of me wants to say not till the 28th or so due to the light schedule and keeping Crow ready. However the realistic part probably thinks about the 15th of the month.
October 7th, can't get here soon enough...
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
—Brendan Shanahan.
No way in hell he gets the Boston game.
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
was more of a "range"
should of said not looking at opp
October 7th, can't get here soon enough...
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
—Brendan Shanahan.
Agreed
I hope that will be less of an issue now that that Q won’t be having a brain aneurysm when Emery hits the ice… I think Turco’s red pads made his blood pressure shoot straight through the roof…
It would be nice to see Crawford with ~ 60 starts… not quite in Kipper territory (hopefully)…
You and your mom are hillbillies. This is a house of learn-ed doctors. ----- Dale Doback
by Boris Mironov on Oct 3, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions
The schedule looks so much more balanced
than last year. I counted 11 back to backs — last year I think they had some crazy number like 16. They also ease into the season, again unlike last year which seemed like they played every night for the first 3 months. Only 11 games in October vs 14 for a couple of the other months.
Oct 7 2011. Close your eyes, here we go.
Tweeping as @ehirtens
Why cant Emery start against Dallas on Friday?
Niemi opened for us 2 years ago at an away game.
When I decide to change my personality I will let you know what I become.
by Blackhawks Transplant on Oct 3, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I suppose he could. Forgot about the Niemi start.
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
In my opinion thats the best way for Emery to prove himself to the team.
You perform great at an away game, let alone the very first game of the season. If you win, you have the fans support, your teams support, the coach’s trust.
If Niemi had a horrible game that year instead of the shutout. I bet people would have been just as concerned about him as they were Huet.
When I decide to change my personality I will let you know what I become.
by Blackhawks Transplant on Oct 3, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Niemi did not start the opening game
He started the 2nd game. It was the back to back with Florida in Europe.
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
Shit, thanks for the catch.
When I decide to change my personality I will let you know what I become.
by Blackhawks Transplant on Oct 3, 2011 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Perhaps, but back to back games none the less.
We have all seen Crow do Back to Backs anyway though. Q had no trust for Turco.
When I decide to change my personality I will let you know what I become.
by Blackhawks Transplant on Oct 3, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Huet played game 1, Niemi played game 2
When the Hawks opened in Finland in 2009, which is, coincidentally, where Niemi is from
I do worry a bit about his health
and getting beat on wrap – arounds and the like.
I'm not complaining
but did Salak really have a shot at the job if this is the result. The numbers for the two of them are night and day so short of Salak pitching 3-4 shutouts what more could he have done?
Having said that as long as Emery doesn’t shit the bed this is probably the best scenario for everyone.
Agreed
It seems as though they had Emery in that slot and it would have taken an act of God to move Salak up. Hopefully this will work out well for Salak. Get some quality starts in Rockville and come on later in the season. Let’s all hope Emery plays better in his regular season starts than he did in the preseason.
You have 11/19 marked on your calendar, Scott?
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
I admit I can't figure out the significance of 11/19
Saturday night game in Edmonton during the middle of the Circus Trip. What am I missing?
Boy,
one game against a weak Nebraska team and . . . .
Nice
I hate to say it but I think the Illini are overachieving. I’m really happy to see it but my guess is that by that Saturday the orange and blue will have fallen back to earth and the game won’t be that significant. Hope I’m wrong though.
I hope so too
I’d like to go down to that game and it’s always more fun when it’s meaningful.
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
Way off hockey topic and I apologize
but I just saw this and thought it was a photoshop but it isn’t. Just one horrific facemasking by K-State against Nebraska.
It’s not even a Badger picture but I’m done now.
Thank you, sir! May I have another?
holy crap
"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
I just had to look and look away and look again
just say i fucking cringed at that
October 7th, can't get here soon enough...
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
—Brendan Shanahan.
Also
Rogers makes a pretty good point:
ESPNChiHawks Jesse Rogers
All I know is if they sign emery to a one-way deal, thats 4 goalies they are paying NHL salaries to this year including Huet. Yikes.
That is all he knows.
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
by HjammerTime on Oct 3, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
FALSE!!!
He also knows exactly how many pounds Ben Smith can deadlift…
Jesse Rogers – Repetitively watching YouTube videos in the dark IS NOT creepy!!!
You and your mom are hillbillies. This is a house of learn-ed doctors. ----- Dale Doback
by Boris Mironov on Oct 3, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
That's the edited version
Jesse’s directors cut includes the deleted ending, “And none of them are Niemi! Noooo!”
Anyone worried
that this team may not be physical enough? I know it was only the preseason, but the Hawks hit counts wasn’t really all that great…..again, it could have to do with it being preseason and not all the regulars playing….i hope to see 200 hits from bickell this year
by Special Agent Dale Cooper on Oct 3, 2011 12:06 PM CDT reply actions
carcillo, mayers, montador, seabrook, bickell, o'donnel, and hopefully a revitalized hjammer.
i think we are okay on the physical end.
by putmeinthemadhouse on Oct 3, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions
hjammer is a goon
and well Carcillo, he gives goons a good name
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Oct 3, 2011 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't care about fighting
but I was a little disappointed in the lack of times someone used their body to win the puck/make a play. Then again there’s no point getting hurt in the preseason so I’ve basically decided to put this concern on the back burner.
Not a worry at all
the additions by themself will pound other teams at times, count on it – and Bickell is just realizing his physical potential.
You're hoping Bickell is
“realizing his physical potential.” I don’t think we have seen any evidence yet.
Physical play is not
about how many fights one gets into nor how much one stands up for their teammates. It is about taking the defender’s body out of a play rather than trying to poke check a puck away from him. It is about am opposing player with a puck knowing he has to make a quick decision because he is about to get tatooed.
In that respect, it is hard to think Hammer or Bickell are part of that and the jury is certainly still out on Montador. Carcillo, Meyers and O’Donnel are players who will have very limited ice time.
The only continual physical presence (jn the hockey sense of the word – not the WWE definition) is Seabs.
We need to keep saying it
over and over again so people will understand fighting and protecting is not really what is meant by “playing physical.”
By far and away, Captain is our best physical player.
Hammer can be physical
Remember last year when he got suspended for his hit on Pominville. I think that took a lot out of him, but I saw a couple of decent hits during the preseason and think he will be more physical this season. Montador has never been afraid to use his body along the boards.
Yes.
I thought that one call changed his whole season. Hopefully not his whole career.
Supposedly, Ryan Malone is not getting any further
discipline for his hit on Campoli – agree or disagree?
Also, Crosby was placed on IR.
"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
ehhh...
I would say I have to agree on this one… Malone kept his elbow tucked in and low… doesn’t look like he had intent on targeting the head…. jmho… On a side note i like Malone beating the living shit out of whatever Hab went over to him…
You and your mom are hillbillies. This is a house of learn-ed doctors. ----- Dale Doback
by Boris Mironov on Oct 3, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
D pairs
While I’ve questioned the method of the “offensive/defensive” pairing Q likes to roll out with Keith/Leddy,Hammer,Seabs, does anyone think this stays to start and throughout most the season?
October 7th, can't get here soon enough...
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
—Brendan Shanahan.
There was a moment yesterday
when 4 and 7 had the puck in their defensive zone and kept passing it back and forth to each other. Nobody wanted to carry it out of the zone. I was laughing because it is only pre-season.
Hopefully the Keith/Leddy thing
goes away quickly…. I see what Q is trying to do by forcing Leddy to play the stay-at-home defensive role and kinda like it, but I really really hope this is only a 2 week experiment before letting the kid loose…
You and your mom are hillbillies. This is a house of learn-ed doctors. ----- Dale Doback
by Boris Mironov on Oct 3, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Edzo is getting roasted on Twitter right now. Pretty entertaining.
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
OK -- for those of us not on Twitter...
…please elaborate
by Bobo the Pro Bear on Oct 3, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
or at least a link
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
I saw these
Wysh tweet
Eddie O says that “not a lot of people are talking about the LA Kings.” Did he spend his offseason in a space capsule?
Lambert
@wyshynski he also said vokoun wasn’t as good an option as neuvirth/holtby. high off his ass, obviously.
Respect my Authoritah!..........Eric Cartman
I had no idea Tab Bamford was a comedian
The1Tab Tab Bamford
oh, and when Kruger gets to Rockford, they should put CASPER on his locker… he was a ghost the entire preseason #Blackhawks
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ahahahahahahah that is fucking hilarious!
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
I would like to point out I don't actually follow him. I saw it on the #Blackhawks feed.
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
Maybe when he gets an original and/or legitimate idea
someone should put an “Armageddon” movie poster on his site…
You and your mom are hillbillies. This is a house of learn-ed doctors. ----- Dale Doback
by Boris Mironov on Oct 3, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
That's some funny shit right there
He’s a regular Jeff Dunham
by Andrew Cieslak on Oct 3, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Per Kuc
Ryan Johnson, who has been in Red Wings camp on a pro tryout, has been let go.
Respect my Authoritah!..........Eric Cartman
They did sign Brunnstrom however.
Red Wings are fucking sick tight. Emmerton and Nyquist are pimps. Then Smith-Kindle-Tatar-Jurco and Pulkkinen. They are every bit as deep as the Hawks are, if not deeper.
"Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism."
This may just be my warped mind...
but Jurco-Pulkkinen and Tatar is conjuring up sick images
From what I’ve seen, Nyquist will soon be called "Super Fly.’
Aw, poor RJ
I didn’t think he really had a chance there anyway, but it has to suck to be let go.
"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
Calgary Flames: Olli Jokinen spent the summer studying the work of Pavel Datsyuk(notes), Ryan Kesler(notes) and Henrik Zetterberg(notes) to understand how to better be a two-way forward. If he’s even half-decent in his own zone at this point Flames fans are going to act like he hung the moon.
And he realized the reason he hasn’t produced the same numbers as them. Is becuase he didn’t let his hair grow!
When I decide to change my personality I will let you know what I become.
by Blackhawks Transplant on Oct 3, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
What's really funny is DGB's latest
Florida Panthers: The team’s young defenceman absolutely need to stop getting undressed on opposing rushes, insists Rocco Grimaldi.
I'll admit I LOLed
And then the first Tweet I read immediately following this comment was, “Josh Holden undresses Brad Richards”… convergence FTW!
And this
Buffalo Sabres: Ville Leino and Christian Ehrhoff should provide the Sabres with production at a fraction of the cost of similar players, in the sense that 3/2 is technically a fraction.
hahaha
Oct 7 2011. Close your eyes, here we go.
Tweeping as @ehirtens
I read this article in my office today
Then I clicked on one of the links at the bottom for another one of his article Signs your teammates are trying to kill you. Well at the same time there was a tele-confrerence between half the planet going on. It took all I had not to bust out laughing reading it and had to cover my whole face to hide the ear to ear grin and laugh I had going on!
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Oct 3, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Center Ice
I got a message from Direct TV that they are having a free preview of Center Ice starting on Thursday, so those of you with Direct TV watch all the hockey you can while it’s available.
Respect my Authoritah!..........Eric Cartman
They do it a few times a year with DTV
Nice move. Once at the start, usually one time mid-season and 1 time at the end. Either way I already bought it but can’t freaking wait!! Anyone doing anything in the burbs for Fridays game?
October 7th, can't get here soon enough...
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
—Brendan Shanahan.
I wonder if that's limited to Direct TV...
I know it wasn’t limited last year — or at least my cable company didn’t realize & I got to check out the free preview as well.
It’d be nice to not have to search for a stream on Friday….
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
I think
Center Ice gives it free to all exhibitors for those weeks.
Hawks have a fantasy faceoff
I think it’s pretty cool. It’s pretty much fantasy hawks on their site.
here is the link:
Created an Id/psswd if you want one big league you can have or just the main page has their own set of stuff
ID: 18
Password: hawks2011
You can win prizes on the site.
October 7th, can't get here soon enough...
"Watching a shootout is like admitting you watch Survivor or search the internet for porn."
—Brendan Shanahan.
that seems neat
but I could barely remember to sign in to my SPG picks each game; I doubt I’d remember to sign in to pick my team.
SCH Narc - check yo'self before you wreck yo'self.
I think he was the first, anyway LeBrun seems to think it is a one- way deal at $ 600,000...
"Statistical Improbability on a Colossal Scale"
All I know
is I didn’t like the way he throws rebounds toward his backside.
Speaking of headshots...
Milbury’s response, which I think is dumb:
“I think if this goes the way it’s going right now, it’ll do more than if they took fighting out of the game. If it’s called like this — and with all due respect to all the excellent comments by Edzo and Pierre and Doc — if this is the way they’re going to call it, it is going to turn into touch football. People don’t want to lose tens of thousands of dollars, going out for 10 and 20 games for what have been, sometimes, really vicious hits and sometimes questionable calls, in my opinion….”I’m not talking about head shots. I don’t like head shots. I don’t like concussions either. But right now, there’s a lot of pink hats out there. And I don’t wear a pink hat. Just ties."
First, of all, all the suspensions have been for headshots – if that is not what he is talking about, then what the hell is he bringing it up for. Nobody is talking about taking good, clean, hard checks out of the game, so he’s just an asshole with the pink hats comment. And he asked if the Bruins would have won today with the new rules because he liked the way they hit – they didn’t target the head but still played very physically so I don’t see why not. Making headshots illegal in the game does NOT ruin the physicality of the game.
"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
its stupid, is what it is
"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
"I think if this goes the way it’s going right now, it’ll do more than if they took fighting out of the game. If it’s called like this — and with all due respect to all the excellent comments by Edzo and Pierre and Doc — if this is the way they’re going to call it, it is going to turn into touch football. People don’t want to lose tens of thousands of dollars, going out for 10 and 20 games for what have been, sometimes, really vicious hits and sometimes questionable calls, in my opinion…."I’m not talking about head shots. I don’t like head shots. I don’t like concussions either. But right now, there’s a lot of pink hats out there. And I don’t wear a pink hat. Just ties."
I would give a shit about these comments if they were made by someone who knew something about hockey.
GO SHARKS!
They're not getting this kind of coverage at "Hockey Night In Canada" folks! - Randy Hahn
Changing signatures is for suckers.
What Jay Leach is to the San Jose Shark's Defense, I am to Fear The Fin's Mod Squad.
Looks like Ryan Nugent-Hopkins is staying with Oilers
at least for now. Didn’t see him play at all – how ready did he look?
"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter
I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams
Streaming NHL GameCenter via Playstation 3
Did anyone do this last season? Did you like it? Dislike it? How was the picture quality?
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