"I Ain't Never Been To Jail" - Hawks 6, Jackets 3

by McClure on Nov 10, 2011 9:29 PM CST

Against pretty much any other opponent, tonight's game would have proved an ideal palette cleanser after the losses to Vancouver and St. Louis, but because it was the Blue Jackets, it just kind of feels perfunctory. Make no mistake, the Hawks were pretty much all over the most expensive AHL team money can buy from Jump St., but ultimately this is just merely what the Hawks are supposed to do to a team that might end up shaping up to be one of the bigger disasters of the last decade.

While I'm sure I'll be labeled as a buzz kill, but I can't allow myself to get too excited over a win over the Jackets, even if it did feel nice to see a crooked number up there after two icky, icky losses. This game was certainly far from flawless, but baby steps and all that. Given the sheer number of goals, the full narrative is getting bypassed and we're heading right to the bullets, with the standing caveat that all thoughts are taking into consideration that yes, it was indeed against the Jackets . Get a taste.

Observations

I've been banging the drum since the pre-season that Toews and Hossa need to work together, and lo and fucking behold, Toews walks away with 3 points, and he, Hossa, and Stalberg end up +3's. Vik looked as lively as he's been for a full 60, but his move of darting into the zone in 6th gear and then slamming on the brakes and cutting to the middle simultaneously will probably need a compliment soon as tape starts to circulate.
On the other hand, the combination of Sharp and Kane that we've been making known to anyone who will listen needed to be together didn't produce much, Kane's breakaway notwithstanding.
The two power play goals from the second unit were nice, and Bruno showed exactly what he was brought here for, but its success by no means portends to any kind of long term success. If nothing else, the only thing it accomplished was positively reinforcing Q's goofy ass lineup. The early returns were good, but I'll wait to levy final judgement when they face an adult penalty kill.
Speaking of bad penalty kills, things are so bad now that they've given up goals to the only two power plays in the same quadrant of deep space as the Hawks'. Quite naturally penalties by Carcillo and Scott ended up in the back of the net. Tighten it up.
John Scott is awfully pinch-happy for a guy who can't skate backwards.
So Steve Montador is playing forward on a power play, and Patrick Sharp is on a point. WHAT. EVER. At least it worked tonight. Good on Monty with the Gordie Howe Hat Trick tonight.On top of that feat, if you watch a replay of Bruno's goal closely, you'll see Montador give him a congratulatory pecker slap in the scrum afterward. It's not gay if you call it "male bonding", right?
As for the two defensive pairs that matter, they looked a lot more comfortable together tonight, as they should, given that they are a much more natural fit than what was getting trotted out there before Tuesday. Have a night, Nik and Nick.
The only one that Steve Mason has robbed since his rookie year has been Scott Howson. Think Mason wishes they brought Hitch back?
I heard Rick Nash might be a wiener tucker. But that's hearsay and conjecture at this point.

Player of The Game

Though Captain Marvel put the Hawks up early, it's real tough to pick against a guy with the first Howe Trick since March of 2009, especially considering the way that Montador jumped in to Kruger's aid. Spring forth burly protector, and save me!

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A win is a win

But holy hell are the Blue Jackets a steaming pile of crap.

by Chi-Fed on Nov 10, 2011 9:45 PM CST via mobile reply actions

Crap or not

I still remember this game, so I never take a win for granted.

by TKHO on Nov 10, 2011 9:52 PM CST up reply actions

ah, Huet

Those were the days…

by RVW5000 on Nov 10, 2011 10:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions

I remember that game

Huet hadn’t played in about 6 weeks and Q decided to sacrifice him in a game where nobody gave a shit.

by CjSax on Nov 10, 2011 10:05 PM CST up reply actions

5 points in 15 games is ridiculous.

I kind of feel bad to be honest

"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter

I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams

by justforkicks on Nov 10, 2011 10:16 PM CST up reply actions

Same here

I mean, I hate the BJs, but not THAT much.

by Ban on Nov 10, 2011 11:13 PM CST up reply actions

I remember

games in which my team was dominated like that. It’s no fun. I actually felt sorry for the BJs.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Nov 11, 2011 6:48 AM CST up reply actions

getting 2 & 8 unpaired....hmmmm.what site has been pushing that?

Fighting stupidity since 1958 (its a much bigger project than originally envisioned).
Confusion will be my epitaph.
It needs more cowbell.

by krome on Nov 10, 2011 9:48 PM CST via mobile reply actions

Just about EVERY site, right?

They got shut out against the Blues, and beat the, um, BJ’s. Not really a ringing endorsement yet.

And if we’re counting… Hawks 8-2-2 with 2-8 paired, 1-1-0 when not (and Keith in lineup). 1-2-1 overall w/o 2-8.

Let’s see how 2-7’s TOI numbers are against a few real teams, and if 4-8 can hold there own. If the 3rd pairing can continue to average a high TOI, 2-7 should be fine, but if Q keeps dressing Scott or the 3rd pairing falters, then look out.

I doubt anyone but a few voices ultimately care what the pairings are as long as 1) the Hawks are winning, and 2) Q can keep Keith and Seabs’ TOI down so they’re fresh at the end of the year.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 11, 2011 9:19 AM CST up reply actions

72

Also with Bolland out, 19 and 81 took on the other teams top line. I’ve always said 72 makes total sense when ones play ones. Lets see what happens when Bolland gets back.

by DaleHalas on Nov 11, 2011 11:21 AM CST up reply actions

PP

The early returns were good, but I’ll wait to levy final judgement when they face an adult penalty kill.

Me too, but the Hawks have had so much trouble converting against even JV penalty kills, so for now I’m just happy to see anything.

Montador would’ve been covered against any half decent PK, but credit to him – that was a nice goal, especially for a guy who’s not used to being in that position.

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by Brian C on Nov 10, 2011 10:00 PM CST reply actions

Montador's nickname

I thought about calling him “Gerard Cosloy”, but was told that that sobriquet was too cryptic. Glad someone else saw the connection to the record label of one of Billy Corgan’s enemies.

by Raskolnikov9 on Nov 10, 2011 10:02 PM CST reply actions

heh

got that.. and any enemy of Corgan is a friend of mine…

enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
and yes, I probably *should* be asleep right now!

by mightymike D on Nov 10, 2011 10:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Pavement/Stephen Malkmus is ridiculouly overrated.

There are some who call me........Tim?

Tremendously tremendous!

Beautius J. Beautius!

by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Nov 10, 2011 10:21 PM CST up reply actions

well

that’s just plain wrong….

enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
and yes, I probably *should* be asleep right now!

by mightymike D on Nov 10, 2011 10:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Negative

I can name a shitton of other bands that were better and have graced the Matador label.

Aside from “Cut Your Hair” nothing they’ve ever done has been all that good or interesting and Malkmus often sounds like a hoarse, off key Jeff Tweedy.

There are some who call me........Tim?

Tremendously tremendous!

Beautius J. Beautius!

by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Nov 10, 2011 10:58 PM CST up reply actions

well..

any label that has had Mogwai, Guitar Wolf, Cat Power, Yo La Tengo, Brightblack Morning Light, Superchunk and The Blues Explosion obviously has an embarassment of riches.. and if you want to talk overrated, step forward Wilco… but anyway: agreeing to disagree is the way forward? Correct?

enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
and yes, I probably *should* be asleep right now!

by mightymike D on Nov 10, 2011 11:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

you left out Mission of Burma and Ted Leo and the Pharmacists. just sayin…

Sorry for partying!

by lumberjack7 on Nov 10, 2011 11:36 PM CST up reply actions

well damn..

I also forgot about Bardo Pond and Fucked Up… guess I suck.. but that’s one hell of a record label, eh?!

enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
and yes, I probably *should* be asleep right now!

by mightymike D on Nov 10, 2011 11:38 PM CST up reply actions

an absolute gem for a middle class suburban white kid like myself. cheers to you sir.

Sorry for partying!

by lumberjack7 on Nov 10, 2011 11:49 PM CST up reply actions

Favorite Matador Offerings

Cornelius Fantasma and then less so but still brilliant Point.

Pardon me I'm only bleeding But you cut me To the bone And tonight You're probably feeling Like a Human Cannonball

by hairhelmet on Nov 11, 2011 2:11 AM CST up reply actions

You forget

Pretty Girls Make Graves, Interpol (er…the first two albums, at least), New Pornos/A.C. Newman, Cold Cave, Ted Leo, Fucked Up, Chavez, Guided By Voices, and Liz Phair (before she decided to make albums by sitting on her guitar and farting on it.)

also, re: Wilco. I can admit they’re overrated. Everything after Yankee Hotel Foxtrot has been pretty bland. But fuck if “Via Chicago” isn’t one of my favorite songs ever.

also pt II, electric boogaloo, to make this hockey related: Sonic Youth is a recent addition to Matador. Daydream Nation, suckas.

There are some who call me........Tim?

Tremendously tremendous!

Beautius J. Beautius!

by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Nov 10, 2011 11:39 PM CST up reply actions

Teenage Riot time...

Interpol are a bunch of dicks, by the way.. not their music, them personally. I’ve had ‘dealings’ with them..

enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
and yes, I probably *should* be asleep right now!

by mightymike D on Nov 10, 2011 11:41 PM CST up reply actions

I can totally believe that.

and I’m not surprised about that at all.
Turn On the Bright Lights is still obscenely good, though.

There are some who call me........Tim?

Tremendously tremendous!

Beautius J. Beautius!

by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Nov 10, 2011 11:44 PM CST up reply actions

it is obscenely good..

Long story short (ish)..
I used to be a member of a Non-Profit Music Collective here in Limerick.. we put on a ton of great shows in a tiny venue and really took care of touring bands, as far as beds, food and beer went.. there was never much money. We had The Walkmen, Cerberus Shoal, The D4, Guapo, Capdown, Icarus Line etc pass through our hands.. then we had Interpol booked before anyone had really heard of them.. in the three months between us booking them to play and them touring they got picked up by a major and basically told us “we’re too important to play this sort of shitty gig” a-holes

enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
and yes, I probably *should* be asleep right now!

by mightymike D on Nov 10, 2011 11:50 PM CST up reply actions

Paul Banks and Carlos D always seemed like they kinda arrogant dicks.

There are some who call me........Tim?

Tremendously tremendous!

Beautius J. Beautius!

by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Nov 10, 2011 11:52 PM CST up reply actions

but the flipside of that..

is the Yeah Yeah Yeahs… same situation: inbetween us booking them to play in a pub in Limerick and their European tour they suddenly became “The most exciting new band in the world”, were on the front cover of all the music magazines, the subject of a major label bidding war… and they still came and played in a pub.. and manned theirr own merch swtall.. I have a YYY short that Karen O sold me.. good people!

enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
and yes, I probably *should* be asleep right now!

by mightymike D on Nov 10, 2011 11:53 PM CST up reply actions

The Walkmen

Speaking of underrated…

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-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)

by HungryHungryPanda on Nov 11, 2011 7:27 AM CST up reply actions

Liz Phair was always a huge fraud

poor widdle rich girl makes album in her studio built by her parents for her in Winnetka, wants to respond to Rolling Stones Exile in Main Street, sings like Tom Waits without the harmony, bleach.

by Waylon on Nov 11, 2011 9:01 AM CST up reply actions

You think Wilco is overrated?

by aeroplane on Nov 10, 2011 11:40 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions

love Uncle Tupelo

Wilco.. less so..

enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
and yes, I probably *should* be asleep right now!

by mightymike D on Nov 10, 2011 11:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

that's too bad

I think the music got better and deeper but to each his own.

by aeroplane on Nov 11, 2011 12:58 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions

Excellent argument, well articulated. I can’t really reply right now to each and every point …

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by ChicoMaki on Nov 11, 2011 8:35 AM CST up reply actions

Oh what the fuck ever.

I’m soooooooooooooooooo sorry my view on something subjective doesn’t line up with yours and I’m soooooooooooo sorry I didn’t write out an entire paragraph on why it sounds like someone’s stepping on his nuts as he recorded the verses of “Gold Soundz” or how “Range Life” has one of the most wince inducing choruses ever and exactly what interval he’s off in every note he’s singing,

There are some who call me........Tim?

Tremendously tremendous!

Beautius J. Beautius!

by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Nov 11, 2011 4:58 PM CST up reply actions

Oh Jesus

www.mjt.org

by ChicoMaki on Nov 11, 2011 8:34 AM CST up reply actions

Versteeg with the hat trick

Panthers move into first place

by CjSax on Nov 10, 2011 10:02 PM CST reply actions

I recognize the words you wrote

But those sentences just don’t make sense…

by GenPabloSecobar on Nov 10, 2011 10:04 PM CST up reply actions

Meanwhile, Buff is just a big pile of suck among many such piles in Winnipeg

by CjSax on Nov 10, 2011 10:09 PM CST up reply actions

chances we see him at the ASG?

"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter

I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams

by justforkicks on Nov 10, 2011 10:10 PM CST up reply actions

at the concession stand

by CjSax on Nov 10, 2011 10:11 PM CST up reply actions

filling up

enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
and yes, I probably *should* be asleep right now!

by mightymike D on Nov 10, 2011 10:15 PM CST up reply actions

Or if he doesn't get his shit together

Maybe behind the counter

There are three types of people in this world: those who can count, and those who can't.

by FrankStallone on Nov 10, 2011 11:35 PM CST up reply actions

"would you like fries with that"..

“yes, I would.. please stop eating my order”

enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
and yes, I probably *should* be asleep right now!

by mightymike D on Nov 10, 2011 11:39 PM CST up reply actions

His profile pic on NHL.com

makes him look like a pedophile, much like Nash’s pedo-stache.

by Ban on Nov 10, 2011 11:14 PM CST up reply actions

His haircut

and the deer-in-the-headlights mugshot look on his face don’t help, either.

There are some who call me........Tim?

Tremendously tremendous!

Beautius J. Beautius!

by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Nov 10, 2011 11:17 PM CST up reply actions

It's mostly the haircut

by Ban on Nov 10, 2011 11:19 PM CST up reply actions

Congrats

to a beloved ex-Hawk

If graffiti changed anything it would be illegal

by ratbite on Nov 11, 2011 12:22 AM CST up reply actions

First line did look dominant

though to be fair in regards to his points, his 2 goals came from good give and go with the d, rather then his wingers. Though I suppose confidence in your wingers leads to confidence with your own play.

As for the 2nd line, I thought Kane was good (his first shift was especially badass) and loved Sharp’s big hit but was otherwise pretty meh.

"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter

I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams

by justforkicks on Nov 10, 2011 10:09 PM CST reply actions

Also, I guess Kaners new go to shoot out move is going to be

forehand, backhand, 5-hole now instead of top shelf

"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter

I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams

by justforkicks on Nov 10, 2011 10:14 PM CST up reply actions

and finally

We must squash the oilers like bugs tomorrow.

"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter

I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams

by justforkicks on Nov 10, 2011 10:17 PM CST up reply actions

Flames

by CjSax on Nov 10, 2011 10:19 PM CST up reply actions

Oil is on Sunday

by CjSax on Nov 10, 2011 10:19 PM CST up reply actions

doh

then we better squash those flamers like bugs tomorrow. and then the oilers on sunday.

"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter

I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams

by justforkicks on Nov 10, 2011 10:26 PM CST up reply actions

New shootout move?

He’s been doing that exact move for 2+ years now. Maybe 10% of the time he goes shelf, but it’s pretty much always forehand backhand five hole.

"I have only space enough to add: against the assault of desperate pandas nothing can stand."
-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)

by HungryHungryPanda on Nov 11, 2011 7:29 AM CST up reply actions

game was over in 3rd

but eddy o i’m sure you have a nice family, but I don’t give a fuching shit about your son’s 21st birthday, cut the bullshit

by wadaja on Nov 10, 2011 10:11 PM CST reply actions

tough crowd

I guess I’m pretty good at tuning that stuff out. Don’t even remember it.

by aeroplane on Nov 10, 2011 10:31 PM CST up reply actions

3-2 islanders right now

"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter

I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams

by justforkicks on Nov 10, 2011 10:13 PM CST reply actions

3-3

There are some who call me........Tim?

Tremendously tremendous!

Beautius J. Beautius!

by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Nov 10, 2011 10:21 PM CST up reply actions

and they lose in OT

"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter

I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams

by justforkicks on Nov 10, 2011 10:47 PM CST up reply actions

"You're not

SUPPOSED to go to jail, you Low-Expectation-Having Motherfuckers!"..

and that is kind of what it felt like tonight.. still, at least they’ve broken the PP duck..

enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
and yes, I probably *should* be asleep right now!

by mightymike D on Nov 10, 2011 10:18 PM CST reply actions

Penalty Kill Question

Am I wrong, or had the Hawks been playing a 2-2 box formation on the penalty kill with good success and have now reverted to the 1-1-2 which conveniently adds an extra body into the shooting lanes from the point. That extra body being a Hawk of course.

Not a fan of the 1-1-2.

by YouFeelShame II on Nov 10, 2011 10:29 PM CST reply actions

Nor I

It cuts out the seam pass but it appears as though the lateral movement of the two “1’s” can get confused pretty easily (leaving blown coverage). I like it in theory but, thus far, it seems as though it is much more prone to user error. Need to see it a bit more. Correction. Need to see it working a bit more before I reserve final judgement but as it stands today – I’m with you.

You are next.

by M7 on Nov 11, 2011 11:34 AM CST up reply actions

I don’t know what the tape shows ultimately, obviously, but I’m not a fan of this move either. It seems like a classic case of over-reaction after Tampa and Vancouver burned us a few times to get the cross-seam pass and buried one-timers or got very good chances.

It doesn’t follow (for me) to abandon everything, it;s not like other teams had discovered some huge secret; we just showed a few brain lapses where we got out of position and looked foolish as a result.

What I don’t like is our tendency—huge eye test thingy here—to get burned more than normal by shots from the point, and their deflections, even 5-on-5. In the 1-1-2 PK, that high 1, if he doesn’t get into the shooting lane quickly enough then everything can fall to pieces quickly, esp if the other team has established net presence. Last night, for ex., on Clitsome’s first goal, neither Kruger nor Frolik took the shooting lane in time; both maybe were expecting a flip back to the other point, I don’t know, but both ended up just sort of floating and over-committed to the middle. Looked lost and awful.

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by ChicoMaki on Nov 11, 2011 1:02 PM CST up reply actions

Re: 4 + 8

I’ll wait to pass judgement on that pairing until they face some real competition. I’m not crazy about it happening this early in the season, but I’m not opposed to it either. Those guys will eventually need to learn to play together.

by aeroplane on Nov 10, 2011 10:33 PM CST reply actions

Leddy had a few nice rushes tonight....

…including one which he bungled the puck at our own blue line but retrieved it under pressure and spun out the left side and moved deep into Columbus territory. I dont really know why but the play stuck in my head. Plus the first Toews goal…

Cheertheanthem.com

by HjammerTime on Nov 10, 2011 10:39 PM CST up reply actions

the bungled play...

could have been a disaster against some of the more pressing teams in the league. But yeah, him and Hjams were good against a disaster of a team.

by aeroplane on Nov 10, 2011 11:31 PM CST up reply actions

I'm not sure if anyone else caught leddy's head fake?

I think it was the 3rd period just as he was about to cross the blueline..kid’s definitely getting more confidence…but once again, it’s against the Bj’s

when did you run into will smith!?

by desertindian on Nov 11, 2011 12:21 AM CST up reply actions

It wasn't just 1 head fake

He made like 3 of them in a span of 5 seconds

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by FrankStallone on Nov 11, 2011 7:31 AM CST up reply actions

pay attention Frank

it was against Columbus so it doesn’t count.

We like our people!

by cliffkoroll on Nov 11, 2011 7:39 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

No, it counts

it just counts for less, so maybe 3 head fakes against Columbus = 1.5 head fakes against a legitimate NHL team

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by FrankStallone on Nov 11, 2011 8:00 AM CST up reply actions

He had one rush on the PP (can't remember which one unfortunately)

Which resulted in him getting the puck very deep with a goal being scored almost immediately afterwards. The way he blew through the neutral zone and then along the boards deep into the corner seemed as if he said to himself, “fuck the game plan, I’m getting this thing as deep as I can on my own”. A little Campbell zone busting I’ll-do-it-myself mentality. It was good.

You are next.

by M7 on Nov 11, 2011 11:38 AM CST up reply actions

I’m not crazy about it happening this early in the season

Why not? It’s better than it happening later in the season and then realizing “oh hey, this doesn’t work [not saying this is the case now] and it’s a week til the playoffs. great.”
Plus it’s better now putting them out there against the worst team in the NHL and then the Flames tomorrow.

There are some who call me........Tim?

Tremendously tremendous!

Beautius J. Beautius!

by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Nov 10, 2011 11:16 PM CST up reply actions

I want Leddy to work with experience and get as many minutes as possible in until mid-season. Then switch him over and try to get him and Hammer to gel. If it doesn’t work, plenty of time to still go back to 82 and 74.

For me, it’s all about Leddy gaining experience and confidence.

by aeroplane on Nov 10, 2011 11:30 PM CST up reply actions

Cheers to Montador for the Gordie.

This time, when saying good bye to the Jackets, let’s be sure to pack our offense and not leave it behind like we did the last time we played them.

I do feel sorry for all the hockey fans in central Ohio, yeah that’s right, BOTH of them.

I plan to live forever, or die trying.

by Sparky The Barbarian on Nov 10, 2011 10:39 PM CST reply actions

Well there is a 3rd

He just happens to be a Hawks fan who posts a lot here.

by VerStig on Nov 10, 2011 11:17 PM CST up reply actions

Apparently Nabakov has just been traded to CBJ

"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter

I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams

by justforkicks on Nov 10, 2011 10:52 PM CST reply actions

source?

angry bird is angry .

by Da'Ostrich on Nov 10, 2011 10:55 PM CST up reply actions

nevermind, just rumors/misinformation. Were talking about it in the post game of the islanders game

"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter

I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams

by justforkicks on Nov 10, 2011 11:01 PM CST up reply actions

Stals was meh IMO

He had two golden opportunities to shoot the puck but instead insisted on passing, all within a short span of time. It’s been said before. He’s got the speed, but until he gets the hands, and more importantly, the IQ, he won’t be very effective outside of the 4th line.

by Ban on Nov 10, 2011 11:17 PM CST reply actions

he's not going to get the hands...

let’s hope he does get the IQ, though. He can become a smarter player in due time.

by aeroplane on Nov 10, 2011 11:33 PM CST up reply actions

cant seem to win

shoots too often and he gets called selfish, passes to much and he still gets ragged on.

though i do agree, that pass to tazer behind the net was questionable.

by putmeinthemadhouse on Nov 10, 2011 11:47 PM CST up reply actions

He could win

If he could a) hit shots on target and not whiff on golden opportunities or b) pass when it’s appropriate.

by Ban on Nov 11, 2011 12:07 AM CST up reply actions

Stals had his best game of the year IMO

A lot of good movement in the offensive zone and he constantly drove the net. Yeah, those hands are likely always gonna be lacking, but I’m getting to a point of acceptance and trying to focus on the rest of his game, which was solid last night.

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by ChicagoNativeSon on Nov 11, 2011 9:22 AM CST up reply actions

He hit Wiz pretty damn hard on the forecheck, I think in the 2nd period

More of that, please.

"I have only space enough to add: against the assault of desperate pandas nothing can stand."
-ChicoMaki (channeling Mark Twain)

by HungryHungryPanda on Nov 11, 2011 9:36 AM CST up reply actions

How ironic / funny is it

That with most of us have been expressing displeasure (to put it lightly) with Q putting Sharp on the PP point instead of 2 D, the 2nd PP unit that that scored the first 2 PP goals in what seems like an eternity featured not just 2 but 3 defensemen!

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by FrankStallone on Nov 10, 2011 11:44 PM CST reply actions

Eh

It’s what I’d consider a fluke game. Really not much to take from it, considering it’s the BJs. One of the worst PKs in the league. We can just chalk this up to two points and end it there.

by Ban on Nov 11, 2011 12:09 AM CST up reply actions

damn Canooks

Hang on to win
Kings certainly underachieving
Need help up front
Dangling Bernier?

by Canuckslicknutsak on Nov 11, 2011 12:06 AM CST reply actions

Kevin Weekes busting out a "time and space" out while talking about the Hawks on OtF

There are some who call me........Tim?

Tremendously tremendous!

Beautius J. Beautius!

by allyouyounghockeyplayersoutthere on Nov 11, 2011 12:09 AM CST reply actions

Gordie Hat Trick = Full Monty

Sometimes too much to drink is barely enough.

by capra on Nov 11, 2011 12:21 AM CST reply actions 3 recs

that's disturbing

in a way that it frightens me to fully contemplate.. i guess a rec is the least I can do…

enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
and yes, I probably *should* be asleep right now!

by mightymike D on Nov 11, 2011 12:26 AM CST up reply actions

That's disgusting.

We dont have enough eye bleach in existence to purge that.

http://fumaga.com/10165

by northernsails on Nov 11, 2011 12:58 AM CST up reply actions

Autorec...and Ha! Nick Leddy looks like a Monkee...

Davy Jones, not the one that actually looks like a monkey…

"No Swagger, No Dagger"

by Saskjet on Nov 11, 2011 7:06 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

am I crazy for wanting to see more mayers?

when did you run into will smith!?

by desertindian on Nov 11, 2011 12:25 AM CST reply actions

nope

he’s awesome

enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
and yes, I probably *should* be asleep right now!

by mightymike D on Nov 11, 2011 12:27 AM CST up reply actions

Not one bit.

I hated him when he was with the Blues but the guy has become my favorite of the “new” Hawks. Hope they keep him around for a while.

by flahawkfan on Nov 11, 2011 6:34 AM CST up reply actions

6 days til Hawks here in Vancouver...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi9tGGCnxnY&feature=related

by Canuckslicknutsak on Nov 11, 2011 12:28 AM CST reply actions

Wow

I had almost forgotten how much Ladd used to torment Kesler.

Miss you Laddy!

by RVW5000 on Nov 11, 2011 8:39 AM CST up reply actions

Ahh - Luo crying in the lockerroom after game 6

makes me laugh out loud everytime I see it – NEVER gets old…

by imknowdummy on Nov 11, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions

Yeah, it is a buzzkill.

The game wasn’t perfect but there was effort up until the 3rd (who can blame them) and it should be used as a spring board of confidence.

CBJ was the perfect medicine for the hawks, this should help out quite a bit in the mission to get back on track. Do feel bad for the jackets though.

Seriously time to bring in a proven gm to start fresh; no I am not talking about dale tallon (you stupid florida panthers) but rather I truly experienced gm. Is jim nill really that tied to detroit that he won’t take a gm job? Find out columbus!!!

By the way starting new and trading rick nash is a package deal. He is going to want out at some point, may as well make that point now and get a terrific return.

by lobster on Nov 11, 2011 1:15 AM CST reply actions

When I say experienced...

I mean experienced in the NHL. Jim nill obviously wouldn’t have been brought up otherwise.

Fuck calgary, go hawks! 2 crappy teams in a row better result in 2 wins, even if one is on the 2nd half of a back to back (the hawks have kicked ass on the 2nd half of back to backs the last few years, even last year).

by lobster on Nov 11, 2011 1:17 AM CST up reply actions

Tallon isn't as bad of a GM as people make him out to be

Sure, he may not be the best when it comes to the financials, but he’s not bad otherwise.

by Ban on Nov 11, 2011 1:28 AM CST up reply actions

Can't agree more.

Tallon built the cup winning team for us. Failure to acknowledge that is asinine.

by BodomSlayer on Nov 11, 2011 1:31 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs

You're a buzz kill, McClure

but I feel the same way. This team we played looked like a pickup team. Yes, the PP potted a couple. Yes, we won. But we gave up three to a team that belongs in a C level adult league. If we can beat a team in regulation, as you say with an adult penalty kill and I’ll add an adult 5 on 5, then I’ll feel a little better about what I’m seeing. The PK has become a joke now also. I don’t like being so negative after a win, but to say “a win is a win” is really not true.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Nov 11, 2011 7:06 AM CST reply actions

Yo, Badger and McClure, glass 3/4 full, guys...

Go 32…

"No Swagger, No Dagger"

by Saskjet on Nov 11, 2011 8:03 AM CST via mobile up reply actions

how about

2 Points in reg are 2 points in reg. that’s true, right?

"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter

I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams

by justforkicks on Nov 11, 2011 8:07 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions

Sure.

That being the case, the win did nothing to expunge fears held before last night.

Cheertheanthem.com

by HjammerTime on Nov 11, 2011 8:56 AM CST up reply actions

There's an old saying (I think, maybe I'm just inventing it in my head)

That you should learn more from a loss than you do in a win. I think last nights result would substantiate that thought.

You are next.

by M7 on Nov 11, 2011 11:44 AM CST up reply actions

The Blue Jackets must be smarter than Steven Hawking at this point.

by Scott13 on Nov 11, 2011 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Ha!

Yeah… well, if their team definciencies aren’t apparent to someone in that org at this point in time… jeez, what a mess. Feel kind of bad for them but Howson giving The Wiz 5.5 is kind of like digging your own grave IMO.

You are next.

by M7 on Nov 11, 2011 2:06 PM CST up reply actions

Brilliant observation

LOL

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Nov 11, 2011 4:58 PM CST up reply actions

Legit.

Cheertheanthem.com

by HjammerTime on Nov 11, 2011 3:46 PM CST up reply actions

Inventing old sayings already?

Are you “BAH” eligible? Because those two things clearly go together.

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

by Badgerdano on Nov 11, 2011 5:00 PM CST up reply actions

no but I still feel like mentally, getting back into winning after straight losses be beneficial

"I don't go looking for trouble. Trouble usually finds me." - Harry Potter

I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be. - Douglas Adams

by justforkicks on Nov 11, 2011 1:08 PM CST up reply actions

I have got to agree with McClure, Buzz Kill yes, but it WAS the BJ's

Going through more advanced team stats, last night did not help the Hawks at all.
SRS showed a modest uptick from -0.08 to +0.02
My ranking system, the Hawks dropped from 1.378 to 1.344 (1.50 is league mean) the BJ’s increased from 0.069 to 0.103 (0.00 is the absolute basement BOS leads at 2.66 and also leads in SRS at 0.79)
GF/G adjusted by SOS dropped from 2.62 to 2.50
GA/G adjusted by SOS increased from 3.45 to 3.69
The PP is now above 10% (11.67) but still is 28th in the league, but one game cannot change this to drastically
The PK is now at 76.47% bad enough for 23rd.

Last night was certainly going overall in the right direction, it was a regulation win against a divisional opponent, but it was also an opponent that is near (if not at record) levels of poor play. The Hawks need to continue this tonight against CGY, if they pull of a win it will reflect, if they pull of a strong win it will show the team is heading in the right direction. But after last night, big indicators show a leveling are still downward trend in many areas.

Preemptive Palomino, lets talk political stuff elsewhere .
Recovering rec whore, and SCH's resident troll.
Until this is fixed, this will be here! The Hawks PP 3 for the last 33. Season PP = 11.67%

by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Nov 11, 2011 8:53 AM CST reply actions