Round 1 To Gondor: Scum 2 - Hawks 3
by SamFels on Dec 31, 2011 1:53 AM CST
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Or I guess it's Round 1 to Eddie Furlong, or whatever. Fuck it, I can't keep up with McClure's level of dorkdom. Whichever one fits after that preview.
In a thoroughly enthralling game, the Hawks came out on top and passed one of these marker games with flying colors. While it won't be enough for us to fully buy in with this club just yet, it sure does feel good. And it's also a great way to close out the calendar.
Both teams traded periods of momentum, dominance, and chances. Both displayed great defensive discipline at times. Both got physical when they needed to. All in all, it was just a wonderful advertisement for the sport. But the Hawks spells seemed just a little more sharp, their physicality a little more snarly, their chances just a little more cutting. In the end, it was by those small margins that the Hawks walked out with two points.
Bullets:
-Right off the top, the defensive effort in the 3rd period was simply the most dominant of the season. Maybe I'm reading the play by play wrong, but it appears as though the Hawks held the Wings to just two shots on goal after they took the lead. I certainly can't remember a huge save Corey Crawford had to make with the lead. This was seeing one out professionally in every sense of the word, and that's what special teams are made of. Should I mention that they completely defensively dong-whipped a team with Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Lidstrom, and the rest?
-Speaking of Lidstrom, I think the film of his 1st period against Jonathan Toews should be kept on file for when anyone considers giving him another Norris he doesn't deserve.
-In fact, the one advantage that was clear the Hawks had was that the Wings defense just doesn't move all that well. And that's anyone. This will of course change when they trade for Ryan Suter in February, but for now we'll enjoy the gap. The Hawks plan was clearly to beat their D around the outside, and for the most part they did so. On the other side, the Hawks can move from their backline, at least for the most part.
-Jimmy Hayes had a great first shift in the NHL, and....he had a great first shift in the NHL.
-I think Steve Montador will look a lot better when he gets a partner who he can trust and doesn't make him scramble. Then he'll get more than 11 minutes. I still think that guy could easily be Sami Lepisto.
-I have no complaints with Car Bomb when he's actually initiating contact when it matters.
-Hey, dat Horsa guy! He might could play a lil' bit.
-Did Johan Franzen dress tonight? Oh right, he took a penalty.
-I love it when Todd Bertuzzi proves to be pretty much a joke before the playoffs.
-Dave Bolland and whoever is skating with him continue to get pinned far too often in their zone. Part of the success that built this "rat" character that Bolland has embraced -- possibly to the detriment of his game slightly -- is that he could make the top scoring threats of other teams play defense for spells. They can't now. Maybe that's his linemates, maybe it's still that foot, maybe it's something else. But it's got to be sorted.
That's now a five point gap on Scum. Chances to make it bigger. But enjoy it for now. Everyone have a safe and enjoyable NYE tomorrow night. Don't drive, try and stay in one place surrounded by those you care about.
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Maybe I'm crazy
But what was the point of obstruction on Toews for the penalty shot call? I’ve watched the replay several times (via the Team site) and can’t seem to see anything blatant on the play that would warrant a penalty shot.
Also, douche (no pun intended) move by the Wing player who ran into Seabs and knocked him over after his goal. That was classy.
I didn't think it should have been a penalty at all...
but I’ll take it. Also, in what way would that be a pun?
um
You just basically called yourself a douche with that pot/kettle comment.
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by HawkJaw on Dec 31, 2011 2:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
lol
“i dont think that means what you think it means”
by putmeinthemadhouse on Dec 31, 2011 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
Give me some credit...ha ha
It was almost 3 in the morning here and I was operating of a few hours of sleep. You know what I meant to say…I just did a poor job of articulating my point. Though your comment was good for a chuckle.
Didn't see Toews breakaway
But I did see Hossa’s breakaway right before it, where Lids had his stick up on Hossa’s hands and got away with it. John and Troy made it sound like it he did the exact same thing, but if he didn’t it could have been a makeup call for the miss on Hossa’s chance.
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It was not a bad call,
He did hook his right arm on the way in, if it had been a no-call that would have been fine as well.
At the Speeds of the game it can be hard to see the whole thing. Toews got called on a Penalty vs LAK, but Toews was not the reason the skater fell on the breakaway, Frolik in the playoffs blew a tire just as some shithead was poke checking and got the stick low and drew one as well. In regards to calling a PS it was not absurd, but perhaps not exactly warranted either.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Dec 31, 2011 7:11 AM CST up reply actions
I don't think Lindstrom hooked the gloves...
But he got his stick up high around the hands and made contact, and with the ref trailing, it looked like hooking from that angle. Really a game changing play after Captain Marvel buried the PS. Took away the Invincibility propaganda built up around Howard and changed the Mo
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by Sparky The Barbarian on Dec 31, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed. Should have been a penalty.
Also, douche (no pun intended) move by the Wing player who ran into Seabs and knocked him over after his goal. That was classy.
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i thought that was an accident
i think it was Ian White – didn’t Sam say White will eventually be exposed – Kane had all the time in the world to make that pass.
If Seabs shot doesn't go in
the Wing player makes the right play using the body on Seabs there and you can tell in the replay that he doesn’t realize the shot goes in until either just as he’s making contact or right after.
In the replay, looks like Seabs is still taking his number down
for some ‘discussion’ later on in the season.
But in the end, I think it's going to come back to the Globetrotters, because if there's one thing they know, it's "globe-trotting!"
Could be
but I’m still waiting to see him get even on Torres and he’s passed up multiple opportunities to get even there.
If Scott is going to be a BH
he needs to settle the score with Torres. Seabs needs to worry about real players.
But in the end, I think it's going to come back to the Globetrotters, because if there's one thing they know, it's "globe-trotting!"
I know the Hawks won 4 of 6 last year vs Scum
And I know they’re over .500 vs Scum the last 3-4 years
And I know the Hawks won the cup more recently
And I know it won’t really be true til they slay the dragon in the playoffs, but…
Tonight’s the first time since I’ve been watching the Hawks where I don’t feel like the Hawks are the Wings’ little brother. It’s the first time where the Hawks have trailed DET and I didn’t feel like they were about to get get blown out, and the first time where they’ve lead by 1 and I didn’t feel impending doom. It’s the first time I’ve really believed the Hawks were better.
by Bellwether Meltdown on Dec 31, 2011 3:32 AM CST reply actions
the red wings are still a good team this year, a very good team,
In fact, they are so good that the only real advantage the Hawks hold over them is that father time is our side. That was most evident watching Toews horse Lidstrom around the rink in the first.
I firmly think that the Red Wings are standing on the knifes edge between elite status and mediocrity based on the age of the team. Unless significant changes get made in the next CBA to release more talent to the open free agent market I just don’t see how the Red Wings could do a quick rebuild through free agency. More likely at some point, sooner than any Wingnut would want, Detroit will be in the lottery picks. Sports are cycilical, they have a wax and wane, and the wane can be forestalled but not entirely avoided.
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by Detroit Must Die on Dec 31, 2011 5:08 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
As a corollary....
This was enough of a win (coupled with St Louis and Minn) to make me start thinking this team is for real. If can fix the PP, the rest of the league is in trouble, even Boston.
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by Sparky The Barbarian on Dec 31, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
not sure Boston is in trouble...
Hawks aren’t far behind, though. Especially if they get Montador playing more effective minutes or we bring in a d-man that can play over 15 minutes per game in the 5/6 slot.
I saw the first two periods
and the Hawks made the Wings look slow. Lidstrom was burned more than once. The Wings maybe a position team but they didn’t handle the consistent press the Hawks through at them. Hayes looked like a monster out there, Scott height with skating ability. It should be interesting when the Wings make the inevitable trade and improve their team.
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wow that's much more optimistic than my take
sure Lidstrom’s lost a step or two, but that team has a lot of active sticks and they weren’t caught out of position very much – the game could’ve easily gone in the other direction IMO. I saw numerous opportunities where we turned over the puck in the neutral zone and they just blazed back and took a great shot on net.
it also didn't help that they were on the PK
for a huge chunk of the game. I don’t see that happening next time we meet. Hopefully our adjustments trump theirs.
Agree
Could have gone either way, some if-onlys to point to by either side (those goal posts must be stiff and sore today). One possible advantage I see for the Hawks: if stamina was a problem for the Wings over 60 minutes last night, what about when they are 60, 70 games into the season — as has been mentioned here already today, they’re not a young team.
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A year ago,
We were still complaining that no Hawks had converted a Penalty Shot at home, since before the UC went up. Since then, Panda, Frolik and now Toews have all done the deed.
by Toews-makes-funny-faces on Dec 31, 2011 7:07 AM CST reply actions
Well, that was fun.
Always nice to see two good teams play good hockey. This series is going to get crazy before the month is out. While we’re watching the next spate of close-packed games, keep in mind what the re-alignment will do for these teams’ playoff schedules. You think it’s a rivalry now? Wait until these teams are playing every year for elimination in the spring.
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by Steeg of their own on Dec 31, 2011 7:20 AM CST via mobile reply actions
There were plenty of rebounds.
But they all went to open ice rather than a Detroit stick. Design or luck?
Except of course for that first rebound, that seemed to languish for an eternity at the top of the crease and led to the first Detroit goal
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by Sparky The Barbarian on Dec 31, 2011 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
The Hawks played great...however
I counted at least three shots by the Wings that did the old Stals pinball route, at least two shots hit two posts each time. Granted, there are always games where the bounces go against you as well, but it should be noted. Also, why no love for Corey? I thought he played outstanding in the first two frames, made a couple of terrific stops – and NO REBOUNDS. Looked an awful lot like the Crow from last year – more of this, please.
forgot to add about Montador
spot – on about his play, I think he’s getting caught making bad plays because he can’t trust his linemates back there.
Meh, the posts go both ways...i was happy to see the great bounce back from a crappy LAK game...
…a two game loading streak not good to start the year
…they need to crush these Oilers now,i didn’t like that over the top goal celebrating the last game…
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by Saskjet on Dec 31, 2011 8:41 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
•Losing streak
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by Saskjet on Dec 31, 2011 8:42 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I disagree
The worst Monty has looked this year is when paired with a top 4 player. What role he plays should have little to do with his coverage in the defensive zone. He’s simply not the defensive stalwart that we thought he was. He’s a #5 defender on this team and has been playing like one.
Or you can go the route of Tim over at CtA and still insist that he was brought here to be a top 4 player and that his play has to do with everyone else but him.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Dec 31, 2011 8:58 AM CST up reply actions
Monty was a healthy scratch in the playoffs
for a Buffalo team that wasn’t exactly brimming with talent. Almost half a season in and I’m not exactly convinced that Stan found the diamond in the rough with him.
that's not exactly fair...
Buffalo is stocked with good defensemen. They’ve got a true #1 and then 5 or 6 #3/4 type guys. While not great, they’re pretty solid all the way through.
Meanwhile, that night
TomoKop gets crafty with his punches:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hlxKbbMdPKI
That got scary at the end for Tomokop
Doesn’t he have a plate in his face from a losing fight a few years ago? You can see him protecting his head while Rupp is wailing away. Turned my blood cold. Does not mean I agree with his punching Del Zotto like that.
It's on, bitches.
Tweeping as @ehirtens
He does
There’s a whole lot of bad actors in that play but I only have so much sympathy for Kopecky. If he has to worry about the plate in his face he can’t really go punching people who aren’t looking even if some kind of response on his part was warranted.
Yup, that's about my only issue with that play
No innocent parties here. And Rupp went after Kop while he was being held by an official. Tore him away and started pounding. That’s a no, no.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Dec 31, 2011 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
there were two things I took issue with that play..
the cheap shot by Kop and the cheaper shots by Rupp. What a mess.
I've thought about this
Ya know, Del Zotto has to know he just cant skate away from that kinda crosscheck “unmolested”. So dont ya think he knew Tomcop was gonna fire one on him. That woulda kinda, sorta, mostly, point to it NOT being REALLY (kinda,sorta,etc,) a sucker punch, per se??
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by Timothy Fisher on Dec 31, 2011 8:42 PM CST up reply actions
disagree
Del Zotto was doing what a thousand players before him have done and didn’t get sucker punched for doing.
After the high crosscheck
as he’s bringing his stick down, he knifes Kop over the head with his stick blade, knocking his helmet off (oh, Kopecky!). Who turns away after getting into like they did and then pulling something like that? I thought it was stupid on Del Zotta’s part too. (fyi, he also got a penalty for high sticking)
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 1, 2012 10:02 AM CST up reply actions
at about 1:10 of the video linked above...
you can see that Del Zotto loses control a bit during their struggle in front of the net, but nothing that looks worthy of getting sucker punched.
Del Zotta's part.
Yeah, I really don’t get most peoples response to this. The video really doesn’t show what happened to Kopecky. It pretty much only shows the result.
Del Zotta cross checks a guy to the head and comes back with a spear. A spear or butt-ending hit are above and beyond normal play. You knock a guy over like that, he regains balance comes at you, you cross check him, he comes back at you and THEN you turn away? Seriously? Players on the boards that turn away before they get checked tend to get criticized for a cowardly act but people are OK with what Del Zotto did here?
Kopecky threw one “gloved” punch. Kopecky never dropped gloves. That is roughing and a match penalty because Del Zotto did turn away.
Of all the people involved, I’m lease upset with Kopecky. Del Zotto’s play was cowardly, you do that to somebody’s face then you need to face them, don’t turn away when they finally get close enough to respond.
And Rupp’s action was literally criminal. You grab a guy whos arms are wrapped up by a referee and start throwing punches. To a guy that never dropped his gloves. That is the very definition of the instigator penalty. And in a play where it was created for, it doesn’t get called.
League had a chance here to make a statement on who “polices” the play. Give Del Zotto a game for the spear, Kopecky a game for the “match penalty” and give Rupp 10 games for the real criminal act in the play. Instead they do nothing and Shanahammer loses all credibility.
Kop didn't get cross checked to the head
the whole play is shown in the link above, at around 1:05-1:12. Disagree with you completely on this. Del Zotto deserves the cross check penalty and nothing more from that play.
Not sure how you're missing it?
And again, Del Zotto got a penalty for it. Watch at the 5 second mark. That’s how Kop loses his brain bucket. He got brained. Del Zotto knifes his stick right down over Kop’s head.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 1, 2012 2:02 PM CST up reply actions
because Kop doesn't get crosschecked in the head
a runaway stick that grazes over a players body isn’t a crosscheck to the face. And yeah, he got the penalty he deserved, I’m not arguing that fact.
Ah...
I never said he got crosschecked to the head. Maybe that’s part of the confusion, although I guess we just disagree. He took a high crosscheck to chest, near the neck, but the highstick was what I felt Kop was reacting to.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 1, 2012 5:27 PM CST up reply actions
I do think that is the confusion.
The initial cross check is either to the neck or to the face. Not really sure. That is NOT what the problem was or what set Kopecky off, IMO.
It was what follows, which looks like a full “chopping wood” swing of the stick to the back of Kopecky’s head. This was when Kopecky was in a bowing position. No idea how anyone expects a player to take that kind of a hit and NOT retaliate.
Maybe somebody with better screenshot abilities could show that swing. Cause I’m of the impression that most people (even those talking about this play) missed that part of it.
the runaway stick
yeah. It happened. It was careless, but it wasn’t intentional. Nor did it warrant the punch.
btw
Rupp got 5min + game misconduct. Right call on throwing Kopecky and Rupp out of the game.
Yeah the rake
You can’t rake a guy. That is WAY above a normal play. You knock a helmet off swinging a hockey stick like that and you have to face the repercussions. NO WAY you can just turn your back there. So we will just have to agree to disagree on that.
As for Rupp he didn’t get an instigator nor aggressor penalty and he should have gotten both. Which would have given him an additional game off and a fine for his coach. So again we are not going to agree on this.
46.11 Instigator – An instigator of an altercation shall be a player who by his actions or demeanor demonstrates any/some of the following criteria:…; obvious retribution for a previous incident in the game or season.
46.2 Aggressor – The aggressor in an altercation shall be the player who continues to throw punches in an attempt to inflict punishment on his opponent … who is an unwilling combatant.
A player who is deemed to be both the instigator and aggressor of an altercation shall be assessed an instigating minor penalty, a major penalty for fighting, a ten-minute misconduct (instigator) and a game misconduct penalty (aggressor).
You feel it’s okay to sucker punch a guy. Okay. I don’t.
I’ve been consistent about my disdain for the way Kop and Rupp handled the situation from the beginning of this thread.
Del Z needed to control his stick better on the crosscheck, but it got away from him since Kop wasn’t in a good position to absorb the blow too well. Hockey isn’t always going to be clean.
“Kop wasn’t in a good position to absorb the blow too well.”
I gotta assume you’re completely not seeing the infraction we’re talking about. Otherwise, I’m not sure what position is a good one for absorbing a stick brought down over the top of your head. The turtle, maybe?
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 1, 2012 2:05 PM CST up reply actions
Kop didn’t have the opportunity to set his feet due to the battle between him and D.Z. When the crosscheck occurred, Kop flailed more easily than Del Zotto expected which is where the stick got away from the Ranger player.
I see the infraction you’re talking about. I don’t think it deserves a sucker punch. Gutless play by Kop.
BUT
Is it REALLY a sucker punch?- A “sucker punch” is getting hit WITHOUT KNOWING IT IS COMING. My point is he HAD to KNOW it was comming. Why else turn and run like that?
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by Timothy Fisher on Jan 1, 2012 2:15 PM CST up reply actions
really? Del Zotto is turning his head into the punch…maybe you’re thinking about head turning away from the impact of the punch?
After
he raked Tomcop, he turns and runs away. Thats when Tomcop gives him the reach around. (and not the good kind)
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by Timothy Fisher on Jan 1, 2012 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
not true
I’ll get a gif up in a moment. D.Z.’s head turns into the punch. Not exactly the right move when you know a punch is coming…
Ranking
As I said, I’ll give Kopecky third most egregious “bad form” on that play.
And yes, I have a different interpretation of what a “sucker punch” is. My definition more matches CNS on this one.
As for the gif, make sure it shows the part where Del Zotto swings a stick and clobbers Kopecky in the head with the blade hitting him so hard it knocks off his helmet.
And by all means feel free to continue to try and tell me that that is a “normal” play in hockey. One where you can just walk away from. Without expecting any repercussions.
meh. It’s clearly a sucker punch.
I’m not saying a player didn’t lose control of their stick (becuase that happened unintentionally) but that sucker punch was disgraceful.
You clearly see things differently and that’s fine with me.
difference of opinion.
yeah, we clearly have different definitions of what a sucker punch is.
Personally, I am of the opinion that Del Zotto actually “provoked” the punch by turning away. The only question I have is whether Del Zotto deliberately did that or not to garner that response. Alla Bolland type rat moves.
weird...
didn’t work. Here’s a link to the gif: http://priggish.com/hit.gif
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But in the end, I think it's going to come back to the Globetrotters, because if there's one thing they know, it's "globe-trotting!"
Conclusion:
Del Zotta sucks. Therefore any punch to his face is a “sucker punch.”
by ChicagoNativeSon on Jan 1, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
Very much agree with you on Rupp
they just let pretty much everything go at that point. Rupp starts punching a guy who’s engaged with the linesman, which should be a big no-no and then the situation is so absurd that a couple panthers jump in, which should have been 3rd and 4th man in. Surreal.
brings back some memories
to hear “Kopecky lost his helmet”
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by The Cup And Back Again on Jan 1, 2012 1:33 AM CST up reply actions
yeah
and the therapy had been going so well..
enough of the niceties: time for the eye-gouging..
and yes, I probably *should* be asleep right now!
By the way...
All these games are meaningless. No one can beat Boston and there really is no logical reason, other than playoff revenues, to continue the season.
“Clearly” the rst of the league is playing for second place. Haven’t you read that the current Bruin team might be Boston’s best of all time?
I went ot wingingitin motown to read their recap last night. Very level-headed assessment of the game. The one thing that struck me was when the writer said the Hawks seemed to control the puck for most of the third. It’s ussually the other way around in these affairs.
clearly Washington was going to win in '10...
…and look what happened there.
Giving away the Cup based on a stretch of pre-midseason dominance? Pffft.
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by HockeyBroad on Dec 31, 2011 9:34 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
They DID win
they even got a trophy!
But in the end, I think it's going to come back to the Globetrotters, because if there's one thing they know, it's "globe-trotting!"
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by Saskjet on Dec 31, 2011 12:14 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Those are CIA guys
preparing for their search for the Chicago spies in their locker room.
No worries, this was the plan all along!
that must be the spaceship crew in the background…
But in the end, I think it's going to come back to the Globetrotters, because if there's one thing they know, it's "globe-trotting!"
by hairhelmet on Dec 31, 2011 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
lol
If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
by Timothy Fisher on Dec 31, 2011 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe that's over the top, but...
Best Pts% in the league and they’re outscoring their opposition by a 2 to 1 margin – which is unheard of nowadays.
They lead in the league in both GF/G and GA/G, and their 64 GoalsAgainst leads the league by a large margin. The Hawks by comparison have given up 107 GA on the season.
Boston started 3-7-0 (where they lost 5 of those games by 1 goal). Since then, they’re 21-2-1.
The league’s top offense and defense, top 5 PP and PK, and great goaltending. They’re pretty damn good.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Dec 31, 2011 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
Boston sucks...
and if you like Boston you suck too!
Just kidding CSN.
Hey, we’re a pretty good team too.
Question, how had boston faired when they play the likes of a SJ. or Van or Det? do they dominate those games?
They clearly are ahead at the half mile pole, but Turcotte just whispered in Secratariat’s ear, “Let’s go big red, I’m tired of eating mud.”
Boston's +/- is severely out of whack
thanks to Toronto. Boston is 4-0 against them winning by a total of 23-6
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Remove all the Toronto games
(which really isn’t fair because they did win them handily) and BOS still leads the NHL in PlusMinus.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Dec 31, 2011 2:48 PM CST up reply actions
haven't checked in a long time...
but their first winning streak was against the bottom of the barrel. I think they only played one playoff team in that time frame (Toronto). But they dominated that stretch in ways I’ve never ever seen in my years as a hockey fan. Boston is stacked offensively from top to bottom and have two of the best goaltenders in the world.
If Boston had holes
they’d probably trade one of those two goalies to get some players to fill their holes and they’d be unstoppable. The really scary part is they don’t have to. Unreal.
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by Sparky The Barbarian on Dec 31, 2011 11:12 AM CST up reply actions
Like Niemi did
oh, wait…
But in the end, I think it's going to come back to the Globetrotters, because if there's one thing they know, it's "globe-trotting!"
sigh :(
Corye played just as well in the playoffs last year for us. But remember that like 48 save game against the sharks in Game one!
Nemo had some great games
and even stole a few, but he was no Tim Thomas throughout the entire SCP. Just saying he wasn’t exactly an 8th wonder. 3rd or 4th, maybe…
But in the end, I think it's going to come back to the Globetrotters, because if there's one thing they know, it's "globe-trotting!"
that's what concerns me a little if I'm a Boston fan
Can thomas repeat that performance again, will he remain healthy? I know rask is no slouch, but Thomas was the difference in the finals against Van
Thomas can repeat that performance again..
and if not, Rask will.
Boston is a juggernaut
but the good news is that at most only one Western team needs to worry about them. They’re the East’s problem.
Let the chowderheads crow
They may be favorites, but it’s crazy to talk about any team as a cinch. I think they’re about 5-1 or 9-2 to win it all. That sounds about right.
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no matter how good Boston is, and despite the win last year
Boston can still pull the mid-May choke job, they did it in 08-09 and again in 09-10.
Plus Philly, New York, and Pittsburgh will be a handful.
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by Detroit Must Die on Dec 31, 2011 5:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
can they start choking in February and just keep doing that until April?
I won’t feel safe until they’re completely out of the picture.
Philly? Didn't see that one coming.
They still look like a mess, especially in goal.
That was the best 3rd period for the Hawks that I can remember
they just did everything right. Conversely, that was probably the worst 3rd the Wings have played (I haven’t seen enough Detroit games to know). The Wings took multiple stupid penalties and just looked incapable of winning and advancing the puck.
I don’t think the Wings are overmatched by the Hawks by any stretch, but they certainly were in the 3rd last night and for stretches in the 1st. I expect them to be better in the next 5 meetings and I’m glad the Hawks are racking up points while they’re available.
a lot different than last year...
when if we fell behind in or before the third period, it seemed like the game was over
It's like
the Hawks have done a complete 360 in the third period this year.
wait, what?
We like our people!
he is acutely aware of what hes doing
by putmeinthemadhouse on Dec 31, 2011 2:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Acutely aware
But in the end, I think it's going to come back to the Globetrotters, because if there's one thing they know, it's "globe-trotting!"
uh...doh!
my kanebrain read pmitmh’s comment as “actually aware”
But in the end, I think it's going to come back to the Globetrotters, because if there's one thing they know, it's "globe-trotting!"
I agree on the 3rd period
I kept thinking Detroit was going to make a push and they just really didn’t. I’m sure the penalties didn’t help them any but I’m thinking the pace of the game for 60 minutes really took it out of them.
I like what little we say of Hayes and I hope he stays til he proves he doesn’t belong here.
The Twitters (and SCH's own game threads) were alive with the expected over-the-top Hayes love
Like Sam said, he had a great 1st shift. And IMO a good first game. It was good to see and Q obvious was happy with his performance.
But…
Hayes is the savior, Smith is a distant memory, and Hayes NEEDS to be playing in the top 6 because he is the answer to the big bangin’ PF the Hawks need. I also read that’s he’s able to create his own space and has the ability to physically “throw” not just one, but two, defenders out of the crease to get net presence. Somehow this all went unnoticed in the AHL against lesser competition.
Cue McClure in 5, 4, 3…
by ChicagoNativeSon on Dec 31, 2011 9:31 AM CST up reply actions
Not saying he's the savior
just wouldn’t mind seeing a little more of him. As long as Kruger is out, there is room for him here. I’d rather see this kid get 4th line minutes than watch Scott ride the pine for most of the game.
I do agree
Maybe I shouldn’t have made my comment as a reply to yours. You were just on the topic. My bad.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Dec 31, 2011 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
no problem
I agree with you that calling him the fix in the top 6 is a tad premature. His point totals in the AHL don’t exactly make your eyes pop. However, maybe he does fill a role for the Hawks and is just the right fit. IMO he deserves a couple more games to show that he is or isn’t ready to contribute on a nightly basis.
I was very happy to see that we kept up an aggressive forecheck after taking the lead.
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by Sparky The Barbarian on Dec 31, 2011 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
Good point
I thought this was a solid part of the Hawks’ game last night, one of the ways they kept the pressure on. Yet I still agree with the comments made here already, the Bolland line needs to be a consistent offensive threat.
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New Jersey's special teams...
The Devils’ ridiculous PK which gets all the attention is a net -3. They’ve only given up 10 goals and have scored a whopping 7 SHG. That’s a 97.73% kill rate when adjusted for SHG.
But their PP is equally astounding to me. They’ve scored 17 PPG, but have given up 11 SHGA, which is more than double than the 2nd worst team in the league (5 SHGA). Their PP% when adjusted for shorties is 4.72%!
And we somehow think our PP (which is 5th in the league when adjusted for SHGA) is bad.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Dec 31, 2011 9:21 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
The Hawks entries have been underrated this season
at least by PP1. I can’t remember a Hawks team that was able to enter the zone and get set up this regularly, probably ever. It’s disappointing that they can’t find gold (and I’ve babbled enough about that at length) but they really deserve a lot more credit than they’ve been given for their entries, which is all the more impressive when you consider that this is their first season without 51.
Hey John been meaning to ask
Are the Hawks really any better this year?
Since around 20 games in from last year, through the start of this year, the Hawks are around the same Shot differential. Hawks for those last 63 games were at a 106 point pace. This year they are around a 112 pace.
Most of those extra 6 points are the better production from Emery over Turco. Hossa and the team have been more healthy this year. Which is probably the rest.
You are getting secondary scoring from Stalberg instead of Bickell. But otherwise not much difference. The three middle class players (Brunette, Olesz and Frolik) have been a disappointment. Its still the core guys or bust.
The defenseman are more or less a wash with better bottom four players this year compared to last but no Campbell. So really are they any better? I mean besides a little more luck?
by DaleHalas on Dec 31, 2011 1:52 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Almost completely agree
This is why there has been no resolution of the interpretation of last year’s team. Where they a near-elite team that suffered bad luck or a playoff also ran?
As to this year’s team- are they merely a good team that has benefitted from luck and scheduling, or are they elite?
I think both teams were/are borderline elite, prolly one piece away. This year, they may be able to address this.
The difference in the third period has been so astonishing, though, it’s hard to ascribe it completely to luck. As much as we grouse about the third pairing, it’s not the hot mess it was the first half of last year. The team feels a bit deeper, but maybe not quite as good as the team which finished last season, after they picked up Campoli.
We like our people!
great question though
And while I certainly know better than to discuss stats or technical matters, just based on the eye test, I like this team much better
That falls very much in line with my thoughts on the team
Cliff stated many of them. Last year I didn’t think they were as bad as their record indicated and this year, they’re probably not as good as it suggests. But…
Last year they were a win away from the 4th seed. As I said yesterday, I still think this is a 2nd or 4th seed team this year. They might just be closing in on the same target from different directions. (it’s obviously better to undershoot your “target” when starting from the top of the conference)
Also, I think we had more support players like Bickell, Bolland and Kopecky overperform last year. This season, Bickell and Bolland, along with Frolik, Brunette, and maybe even Monty are underperforming. I guess it depends on how you look at it, but personally I think it bodes well; seeing there may be room for improvement without even making a move.
Also, Hawks have some cap space this year. And damn, those 3rd periods. How’d that happen??
Ultimately none of this matters though. It’s not about what team is good or bad now, or even in March. It’s about who “gets hot” during the playoffs. Or so I’ve been told.
by ChicagoNativeSon on Dec 31, 2011 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
I know (think?) you're being facetious
But you don’t win 4 seven game series by getting hot at the right time. You might steal a series with a hot goalie but a 22 game hot steak is a fourth of a season. At that point you’re probably pretty damn good. Also, baby penguins are ready cute.
by Speed3 on Dec 31, 2011 3:55 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I think the D is improved. Even with a vastly underachieving Montador. Let’s be honest, how many of you trusted Leddy last year without the puck? I didn’t. Add in improvements by Keith and Hjammer and we’re better off as long as Crawford finds his A-game.
we cringe over Scott
BUT I’d rather have Scott than Boynton.
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by Timothy Fisher on Dec 31, 2011 8:51 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't catch the game...
Because I was watching the joke that is the ECHL Chicago Express vs. Kalamazoo Wings in Hoffman Estates in person (to be fair, it was $1 beer and hotdog night), but I got updates off my sister’s phone. Glad to see the Hawks play a complete game and come out on top like they should against a pretty solid Wings team. And I loved looking at the stats on NHL.com and seeing 4 Hawks in the top 25 in points, 3 in the top 15 in goals and 2 in the top 15 in assists. Only Pitt has 3 players in the top 25 in goals, no other team has more than two in those 3 categories.
You're excused
if someone offered me $1 beer and hotdogs to watch Lifetime: Television for Women I’d probably do it. “Mother May I Sleep With Danger” – here I come!
by Scott13 on Dec 31, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I'm a little afraid that you could name a Lifetime movie off the top of your head
Are you a closet chick flick watcher?
SCH moderator (may the force be with me) and tweets @tivogoddess
Lifetime for Women:
An Eternity for Men
by ChicagoNativeSon on Dec 31, 2011 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
My wife usedd to watch
“Not without my daughter” with Valerie Bert-n-Ernie every fucking time it came on. It was like having my eye teeth pulled without novacain
No worries, this was the plan all along!
nice win, now I can enjoy the party tonight!
Say what you want, we seem to be a third period team! That tells me were in great physical shape to be able to turn it up in the 3rd like we do, either offense or defensively.
Like Carbomb, putting some edge in our game! nice Win!
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#freeSami
As you noted, Lepistö and Montador seem to have clicked this season (not talking second coming of Keithbrook, but solid enough for 3rd pairing) … yet the Finn keeps enjoying the view from the press box. What has he done (or not done?) to be on such a short leash?
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by HockeyBroad on Dec 31, 2011 9:38 AM CST via mobile reply actions
My $0.02
I think perhaps Sami is a known, if limited quantity. He’s not big.
Q is giving size every opportunity. It’s annoying, but I’m enough of a meatball to worry that this remains the Hawks Achilles heel.
We like our people!
Q is saving him
so he has a fresh D man for the stretch run.
No worries, this was the plan all along!
not sure why...
but Q seems to have absolutely no confidence in Lepisto. I understand Q wants to lean on Keith but there’s absolutely no reason why our bottom two skaters shouldn’t be getting 16-19 minutes a game. Both Montador and Lepisto have shown to be capable defenders in the past.
This.
Plus the lack of ice-time is killing his trade value if we want to move him at the deadline as part of a package. I can’t escape the feeling that somewhere between Q and Scotty there’s been a disconnect in how we handle defensemen this season. We’re going to need to move at least one at the deadline if we’re going to bring in another defensive piece, but the way Q has been better manipulating the marginal defensemen’s icetime hasn’t really helped anyone’s case.
"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." ~gmh
by Steeg of their own on Dec 31, 2011 6:22 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
And it's not easy to come in and play once every 20 games
Rust never sleeps..
Hey Hey My My
rock and roll will never die
If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space.
by Timothy Fisher on Jan 1, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
Uncharacteristicly undisciplined
game from the wings. You could certainly argue that it resulted from the frustration of being unable to contain the Hawks’ top players. If our PP was able to slip off the clown shoes this could easily have become a laugher. But all the time on the PK certainly took its toll on an aging team in the 3rd. However, I don’t see Detroit being that stupid in the next matchup.
As to Bolland’s line, Sam’s observation is exh A for Stals getting more time there.
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by 334Rules on Dec 31, 2011 9:44 AM CST via Android app reply actions
Even NHL Network ...
commented on Lidstrom taking two penalties …
Bertuzzi did his Vancouver-like imitation after getting run by Carbomb … and took a couple good head shots … further dulling his addled noggin.
Can’t figure out why Grampa O’Donnell is playing either … but it seems Q has major problems with Sami and Pirri.
Just a thought … but does it seem to anyone else that the magic dust has gone away and Stalberg has returned to being cement hands?
Normally I wouldn’t complain about this … but CSN is showing Caps vs BlueJackets …. wish they’d show Scum @ Blues !!!!
Can’t complain about 21 of a possible 26 points for the month … and January is another month of home cooking with 9 of 13 games at the UC … including some meaningful matchups …
Hope everyone has a safe, healthy and prosperous New Year!!!!
I still hate the Blues more than Nucks or Wings
some grudges die hard, but you have to be impressed with what they’ve done since Hitch took over. They’ve moved into the top four in the conference and just look dangerous. Candidly though, I do expect them to go through a sustained drought at some point though, much like Minnesota has recently. I just don’t think they have the same depth of talent that the top teams in the conference do and that they can’t overachieve forever.
i agree with you
I take as great a pleasure waqtching us stomp the blues, (and winning some of the fisticuffs those games tend to be laden with), than any team in hockey. The blues area dirty, despicable, malfeasance laden team.
and a good one this year – I don’t expect any serious slump for the Blues. Getting rid of Janssen was the smartest thing they did. Seems like they’re a little more concerned with hockey than just kicking ass.
You've got to give Hitch a lot of credit for that focus
remember Payne’s first game as coach? It was that fight filled game against the Hawks where the Blues seemed content to win the fight game and the Hawks were happy to win the hockey game. Payne seemed to reinforce the worst instincts of the Blues.
I hate all three.
But I have respect for Detroit, even if I call them Scum from time to time. Class organization. No such respect for the CannedDucks or the Bloosers,
If we are not involved in the playoff picture, I can root for Detroit. Can’t do it for the other two.
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by Sparky The Barbarian on Dec 31, 2011 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
I respect SCUM
but watching that scumbag Bertuzzi skate really brings me down at times – and he’s still a tremendous knob most of the time out there as well. It’s like listening to Pens fans talk about how classy their org is – uh, not with that assface still playing for your team. Feel much the same way about SCUM’s fans when they try to parry that line.
LIndstrom doesn't deserve a Norris this year, but maybe a Vezina
for that save on Hossa.
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by Sparky The Barbarian on Dec 31, 2011 10:59 AM CST reply actions
I can't find video
but I thought Lidstrom was basically standing there and Hossa’s shot hit him.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
"Last time you and I go out together for gyros prior to a game"
by ChicagoNativeSon on Dec 31, 2011 11:02 AM CST reply actions
"Hey everyone, knock it off I'M ON THE PHONE"
by Scott13 on Dec 31, 2011 11:54 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
"Wanna see something funny?"
“My phone just auto-corrected ‘Bertuzzi’ to ‘Butt-hurt’”
But in the end, I think it's going to come back to the Globetrotters, because if there's one thing they know, it's "globe-trotting!"
That is so odd
because I, too, favour the group of players currently calling themselves the Blackhawks.
But in the end, I think it's going to come back to the Globetrotters, because if there's one thing they know, it's "globe-trotting!"
Hmm
does this differ materially from previous iterations of groups of players calling themselves the Blackhawks?
There were definitely groups of players calling themselves the Blackhawks
that I did not favour. It caused me great logic conundrums to justify supporting the “Blackhawks” with the sweatermeat giving the sweaters frame in the early-to-mid aughties, for example.
But in the end, I think it's going to come back to the Globetrotters, because if there's one thing they know, it's "globe-trotting!"
by hairhelmet on Dec 31, 2011 12:09 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
i have one big problem with hayes
I wear hearing aids, largely due to listening to Ted Nugent’s 11 min. jam called “Hibernatio,.” about 100 times too many. That mountain fo feedback that bursts like the Cooley dam at the end can not be played loud enough. Rock on Bambi slayer!
I really was having a hard time distinguishing Toews and Hayes over the broadcast.
Maybe Jonathan’s named should be pronounce phonetically to alleviate this problem.
By the way, great caption under the picture Sam
But what about the power play, Sam?
My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.
LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!
Thing of beauty. You rarely see a power play that can dominate a neutral zone so completely.
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by ChicoMaki on Dec 31, 2011 12:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
They were set up in their offensive zone
for about 37 seconds of the 10 minutes.
My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.
LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!
PP2 couldn't get in the zone
but PP1 spent a lot of time in the zone and had good puck movement they just couldn’t score.
Anyone got the FO%
during the PP for last night? It seemed to me like they lost A LOT
No worries, this was the plan all along!
Keith was over 28 minutes
That move around the net w/ Zetterberg on his heels was breathtaking.
BTW, insert a very high pressure situation.
My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.
LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!
That was a huge play that led to an needed exit out of our zone. Leddy is good at that one also.
plays like that don’t show up in the box score, do they. Thanks for bringing it up
Leddy is really progressing well
hard to believe his age – for a D man who was brought up too quickly by necessity, what a great trade that was.
The best play by Leddy
last night was the subtle pick he made on Hossa’s goal.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene."
I was surprised at how quickly Zetty gassed.
Once Keith headed North, Zetty fell back.
But in the end, I think it's going to come back to the Globetrotters, because if there's one thing they know, it's "globe-trotting!"
I just watched the movie last week - so it's fresh on my mind
What an incredible beast. I’m thinking about a piece comparing Toews to him! I heard that secretariat hada heart four times as big as a normal horse – a reverse Grinch scenario
That's true
which is a condition that is passed down maternally which is why horse racing handicappers put so much stock into the breeding.
the movie did a good job pointing that out
I loved when the trainer told the owner first “no” and then went right to the breeding book in the trunk of his car
"He is moving like a tremendous machine...!"
Great call at the Belmont…describes the Captain perfectly…
No Swagger, No Dagger
by Saskjet on Dec 31, 2011 3:25 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
close to a "Do you believe in Miracles" moment
pretty sure Turcotte just hung on for dear life. I asked my wife once if she thought I could ride a horse like that. She just laughed.
I'm old.
but wow, what a memory.
My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.
LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!
I was at the Derby in 1978
when Affirmed w/ Stevie Cauthen aboard beat Alydar. Affirmed beat Alydar by a nose (or a smidge more) in each of the three Triple Crown races. He was the last Triple Crown winner.
My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.
LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!
Each race the margin of victory decreased
The Derby is (I think) 1-1/4 miles, Preakness 1-3/8, Belmont 1-1/2.
Affirmed won by a head, a nose, and a pube, respectively. What with the horse movie mania…
We like our people!
Alydar was by far
the better stud.
My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.
LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!
The tennesee Stud
was long and lean,
the color of the sun
and his eyes were green.
He had the nerve, and he had the blood
and there never was a horse like the Tennesee studn
Hey laaarmer
I’ve been watching Keith more closely since you ragged on him for seeming to have lost a step.
I still think you’re nuts.
We like our people!
In Laaarmer's defense, he's not doing the choppy thing as much.
I’m pretty sure word got back to Keith on his bunny hopping and he’s stried to stride more.
keith has been skating phenomenaly lately.
Although there still is a good chance that Laaarmer is indeed – nuts.
over 28 but
Under 30, yes?
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
by justforkicks on Dec 31, 2011 3:25 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
I'm sure I can get something up about special teams and everything
but I’m just “eh” about it now. Q needs to realize that the third D pairing is a friend, not a foe.
I'm shocked, shocked
to find that this hysteria only applies when it’s John Scott instead of Old Donnell.
off the wall for a moment...
There is a great, great article in the editorial section of the WSJ today on Jalen Rose, one of the original members of Michigans Fab Five. (you loved them or hated them)
Our victory was very satisfying but i loved this quote by Jalen, ‘There may be a kid reading at a fourth grade level (when he enters ninth grade), who when he graduates is reading at a tenth grade level, That’s a victory"
yes it isJalen, yes it is.
No comment on Kane's lazy backcheck?
Or his insistence on breaking his scoring drought with one of those short side mail-slot jobs?
We like our people!
He tried coming through the middle and into the slot a couple times
no luck, but it’s better.
and lol at Kane’s “defense.” Still, from watching previous season games, he’s actually improved.
I'm still pretty proud of the one he had in the kings game
Where he raced back and stopped the 2-1. I think it was the kings game
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
by justforkicks on Dec 31, 2011 8:23 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Sounds about right
It was pretty recent. I recently watch the Olympics Gold Medal game when he rushed back to get Crosby. Oh, Kaner, if only you cared all the time.
I thought he got better when he was center and then reverted when he went back to wing
Will hopefully pick it up again now that he’s back
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
by justforkicks on Dec 31, 2011 9:29 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
I guess he's used to different priorities when he's on a line with tazer
Either that or his slump is throwing everything off for him
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
by justforkicks on Dec 31, 2011 9:53 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
can't believe he's 27!
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
by justforkicks on Dec 31, 2011 4:29 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
apparently Carcillo
apologized to Bertuzzi for the hit on him. This according to the Detroit announcer’s conversation with dickwad.
wasn't it a clean hit? or am I thinking about something else
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
by justforkicks on Dec 31, 2011 7:34 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
then why would he apologize - stupid Detroit announcers
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
by justforkicks on Dec 31, 2011 8:24 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Carcillo is a gentle...
Nope, can’t finish it
Scum playing Bloosers just now (currently 0-0)
Cheers for the meteor?
"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." ~gmh
by Steeg of their own on Dec 31, 2011 6:37 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Annoying, but true.
"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." ~gmh
by Steeg of their own on Dec 31, 2011 6:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
true...
but the U.S. has a deep pool of goalie starts at the moment
just a few that come to mind...
Quick, Miller, Thomas and Howard
After the first, Scum up by two.
Ugh. It’s like a train wreck. I don’t want to watch, but I can’t look away.
"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." ~gmh
by Steeg of their own on Dec 31, 2011 7:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
it's probably better than the US vs. Canada Jrs game...
but in any case. I’ll take Detroit over St. Louis this year.
The whole team was a hot mess.
I don’t see how do you blame that on Clendening.
"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." ~gmh
by Steeg of their own on Dec 31, 2011 7:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
really?
he whiffed on the shot, then he lost the board battle and then he stood lost in front of the goalie crease, lost as Canada finally scored…
And did you catch his take down for the first penalty of the game? He’s been the worst player on the ice by a landslide.
feel bad for Saad...
the guy has no support.
Clendenning was terrible and Stephen Johns had a really bad one too.
Awful pinch gave up a goal, gave up in the corner— gave up a goal… I was starting to get excited about them being the 7/2 combo of the future. After this tourney, I am excited about them renting the Klinkhammer/ Olsen penthouse suite in the Rockford Marriott Courtyard for a few years.
No argument here.
At least with Scum we get to watch players whom we know are obscenely talented win. I don’t know if there’s comfort in watching Lids and Zatts dismantle opposing defences, but there’s something.
"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." ~gmh
by Steeg of their own on Dec 31, 2011 7:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Whoa, Blues sort of suck tonight.
That defensive breakdown was way too easy. They need to step it up, if they’re going to try to win this game.
"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." ~gmh
by Steeg of their own on Dec 31, 2011 7:38 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Definitely not a cheer for the Blues.
Call it a cheer against really bad hockey.
"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." ~gmh
by Steeg of their own on Dec 31, 2011 7:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Fair enough
That is something I can appreicate
do you guys remember...
when the peeps at SLGT declared the rivalry dead after a 3-2 win? As laughable as that was, it was one of the better moments for that community.
Bahaha yes
SLGT and NM have to be the most amusing blogs out there. I can’t even imagine what a debate between the collective commenters would look like.
It would be fun to watch them play each other in the first round of the playoffs for this very reason. Both teams crying how its a conspiracy against them. The doucheitude in the series would be hilarious.
by Speed3 on Dec 31, 2011 8:28 PM CST via Android app up reply actions 1 recs
would be a good series too
Let those two teams KO each other.
Do you guys remember ...
When the Blues were challengers for playoff glory? Yeah, me neither.
"...but the devil lives inside this kid, I swear it. It rises out of him in a mist, this baby-faced defiant wrathful version of Pat Kane, escapes his bodily confines to perform satanic miracles all over the offensive zone. The only thing more fearsome than that assist was the keep-in preceding it. The only thing more unholy than his face is his black magic." ~gmh
by Steeg of their own on Dec 31, 2011 7:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
dallas beating the Bruins 4-1?
i don’t believe it
I'm not happy about it
I told my bro Boston would win that easy and so now he’s all “Look, look, Dallas is winning” What a dick
To Dallas? Hmmm. I guess the Bruins better make a trade. Or fire their coach.
They’re obviously in trouble….
Do you ever have dejavu?
Didn't you just ask me that?
clendening looks like shit...
I don’t see the kid having a future in the N with the way he’s playing.
especially that first...
you’re right, an extremely ugly game.
holy shit..
nasty shot to the head?
Saad looking good for a bit.
I got up for a second so I didn't see
and Saad’s has had moments. I don’t think his line is a good match though, none of the three really click in my opinion.
3-2
I don’t care much for Zucker but he finally found twine.
and yeah about Saad...
maybe if he’s still in Jr’s next year he’ll get a bigger roll on a better line.
Zucker and Miller have probably been the few bright spots this game
So I’m glad one of their chances got in.
And Saad is 19 so this will be his last chance.
Time to worry about Morin?
Another fight and a game misconduct for third man in…wtf?
by CjSax on Dec 31, 2011 11:31 PM CST via mobile reply actions
wow that's 2 games in a row, right?
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
by justforkicks on Dec 31, 2011 11:49 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
jeez, he's been dropping the gloves lots this year feels like
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
I would like to know who is telling him to play this way
Or is he doing this crap on his own?
by CjSax on Jan 1, 2012 12:23 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
The Rockford underground says Morin is getting very pissed off that he hasn't been promoted for real
Or so say a couple of Rockford guys who catch the Icehogs that I ran into at the UC Friday night. Morin is not a happy camper and believes he has held up his end of the bargain to be in Chicago by now. I beg to disagree with his assessment because I’m one of those guys who don’t get the Morin love. To me, he’s nothing special.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
Would be irresponsible to jump to conclusions without seeing what happened.
I do stuff for CheerTheAnthem
Morin is nothing to get excited about
I’ve watched this kid pretty closely and sorry, I don’t see the wondrous upside. Hawks can do better than a future line slot devoted to Jeremy Morin. If I were Stan then I’d be working to move Morin before the deadline while his value may still be relevant.
Morin and Frolik for a real blue-liner to pair with our pretend defenseman in Steve Montador would be nice. And no, whoever suggested Sami Lepisto is the answer please stick to the New Year’s resolution of taking all your medications.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
right...
but he should be a 13-16 minute a night player on most nights. He’s been more than capable in that roll in the past. OD is slow and old at this point. 10-12 minutes seems like his ceiling.
yeah of course. between lepisto and OD, we should at least be able to cycle between the 2 if necessary to get a true 3rd pairing with Monty
i didn’t notice anything that should get him benched for the extent he has been, wish i could figure out what Q is thinking.
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
happy new year! and also
Kings beat Canucks 4-1 yay!
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
by justforkicks on Dec 31, 2011 11:48 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
wow
maybe Sutter is the answer there. Nasty game. Sedins took some bumps and looky looky
by Canuckslicknutsak on Jan 1, 2012 1:13 AM CST up reply actions
the L.A. announcers
basically said that they now understood why people didn’t like the collection of players called the Canucks in last night’s game. Made me LOL.
Daryl Sutter may be dull as dirt and just as ugly, but the man knows hockey
Sutter was a GREAT hire by the Kings. Precisely what that pampered set of underachievers needed to light a fire. Kings have way too much talent to be so down. Daryl wears out his welcome ala Mike Keenan, but he will get the Kings to play the best hockey they are capable of before his tenure ends. His first order of business needs to be unlocking what Doughty should be doing on a nightily basis. Kid should be competing for the Norris trophy every season with that degree of talent.
The Blackhawks and the Stanley Cup in 2010.
HAPPY NEW YEAR
may 2012 bring big shiny silver things around june!
Where are we going? And why are we all in this hand-basket??
by Sgarbs04 on Jan 1, 2012 12:15 AM CST via Android app reply actions
Happy New Year, everyone.
All you people really increase my understanding an enjoyment of hockey.
All the best.
My serenity is inversely proportional to my expectations.
LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!
Josh Gorges just signed a 6 year contract
At 3.9M per. And there goes McClure’s dream of seeing him in a Hawks jersey.
by LavalPhantom on Jan 1, 2012 4:44 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
Happy New Year, SCH
I hope no one has too bad of a hang over. In Hawk talk, it looks like Montador may be out tomorrow with an UBI. Looks like it will be 20-6 tomorrow, because I’d really be frightened if it was 32-6.
if it ends up being 32-6 tomorrow i will cut someone
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
we'll basically invite Hall and RNH to have a hat-trick each
Let the Oilers break their slump, so we can be Charity Hawks 2012.
oh geez don't even joke
i’m hoping for a kaner hattrick and some jumpy spinny hugs
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
I'd greatly appreciate it if Kaner could get a hat trick this month
or maybe just freak out like Toews did in November. And be on the ice with Toews for Hockey Hugs moments. Not enough Hawks on there.
yes please - the dam has got to break at some point right? no better time then first game of 2012 for all the goals and all the hockey hugs
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
Winter classic got moved to 3 - I'm keeping my fingers crossed it gets pushed back to 5 so I can actually watch it
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
Agree completely
Are they moving it in the hopes of the temperature falling later in the day? Also, I wonder why it was scheduled for Jan. 2nd. Hasn’t it traditionally always been on Jan. 1st?
Let's Go Hawks!
apparently 3:00 has more optimal weather conditions for the players and fans.
I thought it had typically been Jan 1st, and I would have been so happy if that was the case.
"Well now you're just talking like Foghorn Leghorn!"
it has a lot to do with the sun hitting a portion of the ice surface
Can be grounds for unsafe conditions.
Everything bows
to the NFL. Whether you like that or not is irrelevant, NFL is huge money and TV ratings, and lots of playoff impact on last day of season.j
An opinion should be the result of thought, not a substitute for it. (Jef Mallett)
by 334Rules on Jan 1, 2012 10:03 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
what do you mean?
is there a afternoon NFL game tomorrow?
I awoke from my stupor this morning, grabbing a bloody mary and...
Assumed I’d be watching the Rose parade… not there
Checked to so when the classic would start… not there
Did New Years day get postponed? Am I in a time warp or something? WTF? Where are Zou Zou’s petals?
Damn…
"What doesn't kill us makes us stronger"
Hayes did ok after his first shift.
He can skate better than John Scott. Then again…that’s saying nothing.
I thought he played a mistake free game
against one of the faster and more talented teams in the NHL. That’s a pretty good sign.
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